20/08/2016 Saturday Kitchen


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Good morning. I'm Lorraine Pascale, and this is Saturday Kitchen.

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Welcome to the show.

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It's great to be back in charge of the Saturday Kitchen hobs today,

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and I'm joined by two of the show's favourite chefs.

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Galton Blackiston, the Michelin-starred marvel

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from Morston Hall.

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And the titan of tapas himself, the wonderful Jose Pizarro.

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-Good morning to you both.

-Good morning.

-Good morning.

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-So, are you going to cook something fishy for us today?

-I am.

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I've got something very fishy, very summery.

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It's a sea trout, and they're running, sort of, now.

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I'm doing it with purple potatoes which come from Norfolk,

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and I'm a massive supporter of anything from Norfolk.

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And a summer salsa, with mango,

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avocado, coriander, all that sort of thing,

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asparagus, still just about hanging about in England.

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-And a basil vinaigrette.

-Beautiful.

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-And you're going to balance it out with something meaty.

-Yes, lamb.

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I'm going to do neck of lamb,

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marinated with honey,

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paprika, some garlic.

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It's going to be grilled and then oven potatoes and oven tomatoes.

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-Very summery and really yummy.

-Good.

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They both sound delicious.

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There's more great recipes

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in our selection of foodie films from the BBC archive.

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Rick Stein, the Hairy Bikers,

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Ken Hom and James Martin,

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are all on the menu today.

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Now, I'm sure there are many of you at home

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who had a poster on their wall of our special guest.

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He is part of one of the biggest bands of the '80s, Spandau Ballet.

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Please give a warm Saturday Kitchen welcome

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-to Martin Kemp.

-Hey.

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-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-Thank you very much.

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-How are you?

-Good to see you.

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I'm glad you're doing it.

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You're my favourite.

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Thank you. So, do you actually like to cook?

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I cook at home, yeah, a lot,

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but to be honest with you,

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my wife does mainly...

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-the majority of cooking.

-OK.

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Because she's really good at it and because she really enjoys it,

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but if I ever do get to cook,

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-then I will cook something kind of a little bit special.

-Right.

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-Because it's kind of arty, you know?

-OK.

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And I love a little bit of doing anything kind of arty.

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Especially if I haven't done anything kind of arty

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during the day,

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then I like to make up for it in the evening

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with a little bit of cooking.

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Now, at the end of today's programme,

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I'll cook either Food Heaven or Food Hell for Martin.

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So, what's your idea of, like, a Food Heaven?

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Food heaven, for me,

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and it has been for years, is curry.

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Whether it's dhansak or chicken tikka masala,

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but something made out of proper spices.

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-OK.

-Not out of a jar.

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And that's my absolute... love it every time.

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-What about Food Hell?

-My Food Hell...

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is pork.

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Pork, really?

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Yeah, because in my head,

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pork is always the dish that I never wanted to see dished up

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on a Sunday afternoon roast-dinner plate.

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It was the one that looked white and boring

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and just felt like it tasted like a piece of leather sole.

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-Oh, dear.

-But I've just seen...

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How it can look. Yes.

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..on Food Hell.

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-And now that looks unbelievable.

-OK, so, it's either curry or pork.

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For Food Heaven, I'm going to make my version

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of probably the nation's favourite curry,

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-a chicken tikka masala.

-Great.

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The chicken is cooked with ginger, garlic, onions, paprika,

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garam masala, mustard, turmeric and tomato.

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And then I'll add some yoghurt,

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simmer it gently

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and serve it with basmati rice and fresh coriander on the top.

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-Lovely.

-Very tasty.

-Sounds great.

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Or, hopefully, I'm going to change your idea of what pork...

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The pork you've had anyway.

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Because the pork I'm making is Asian-inspired

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and it's slow-roasted, slow-cooked,

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so it's rubbed in soy sauce, chilli powder,

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five-spice, sugar, garlic, ginger,

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and then cooked for eight hours!

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See? You've really changed my mind now, because there's... Excuse me.

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It's very different.

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There's a really big bit of me that wants Food Hell!

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But I am completely...

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I'm one of those people, when I'm sitting at a restaurant at dinner,

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I always want what somebody else has sitting next to me.

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I can assure you you will want this.

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It's served in a bun with spicy slaw and mayonnaise.

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It's very tasty.

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As always, we'll find out what Martin gets at the end of the show.

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-Now, are you hungry, Martin?

-Yeah, always.

-Jolly good.

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-Right, let's cook. Galton is waiting for me.

-Great.

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Right, what can I do for you today?

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-Yes, right.

-What are we making?

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-Lovely to see you. A lovely fillet of sea trout.

-Yes.

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It's local, it's seasonal. That's why I like to cook with it.

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I'm just going to skin this and we're going to serve it with...

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-these purple potatoes.

-Wow!

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-These are beautiful!

-They are. They're from Norfolk.

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Well, you can get them from anywhere in the country, to be fair,

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but the best ones, of course, come from Norfolk.

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So, you've got some of these in the oven.

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Yeah, they're in the oven,

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they're baked for about an hour and a half

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on a tray of sea salt or whatever you want to do.

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This is my chance to actually boss you about, Lorraine.

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Yeah, boss me about.

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I am here for you today. Is there anything special?

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So, I'm sitting at home and I'm thinking, "Purple potato?!"

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-Yeah.

-Do I have to use a purple potato?

-Course you don't.

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It's for a colour aspect.

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There's a slight flavour difference.

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Also, I don't know if you know this

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but, originally, when the Peruvians first discovered potatoes,

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they were purple.

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I'm a font of knowledge.

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It's not purple any more.

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Yeah, but it will be inside.

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So, just scoop out the flesh.

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And what I'm doing with this sea trout

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is just to take the skin off it,

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season it lightly with a bit of sea salt.

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You very definitely skinned that sea trout very quickly.

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That's often the challenge for people at home.

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Well, you can get your fishmonger to do that sort of thing for you,

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but it's one of the things that I'm actually all right at.

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Right, you're good at that.

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There's not many things I'm all right at. But that is one.

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Look how beautiful. These really are purple.

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That's the appeal of it.

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-Right, so, I'm going to vac-pack these.

-Yeah.

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Put them into the machine.

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And bring the lid down.

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-And literally, like that.

-Lovely.

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Can you tell me other ways to cook this fish

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if we don't happen to have one of those rather large machines?

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Of course. If you've got one of the modern ovens or whatever

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-which go down to 50 degrees centigrade, use that.

-Yes.

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Put them on a tray, an oil tray, and put them on that.

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Or you could wrap them in clingfilm

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and drop them in barely, barely simmering water.

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Similar time - ten minutes.

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The reason I like cooking these like this

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is because you get perfect cooking.

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-Do you want me to do all these potatoes?

-No, that's perfect.

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Thank you.

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See, I was reading the other day

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that purple food is good for your brain.

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Very good for you.

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It's another reason why I'm doing it!

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That's exactly why I eat a lot of it.

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-Absolutely.

-You've got to eat the rainbow, haven't you?

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-Yeah, purple food, good for your brain.

-All the colours.

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They look very good as well.

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Here we go.

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So, now that's vac-packed...

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We've got that, and we've got this at 50 degrees,

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which is a water bath.

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-Yes.

-I know it's all technical and all that sort of thing.

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So many machines.

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But there we are.

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Anyway, so they're in.

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Now, I go on to my mango salsa.

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-Yeah.

-Just wash my hands.

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So we've got beautiful mango here, it's nice and soft.

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Cos some people think that when it turns red it's ripe,

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but that's not the case. You have to give it a good squeeze.

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It's like melon. You smell it and you then squeeze it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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You're not doing the hedgehog then? Mango hedgehog.

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Not really!

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I can if you want me to!

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No! It's nice.

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Now then, that's it.

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So add a lot of butter,

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cos you're not going to give anybody a lot of this.

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OK. I love mango. Such a great flavour.

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Once you get to know me, Lorraine,

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you'll see that I don't give people an awful lot.

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-I always leave them wanting more.

-I know.

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Sometimes you go to the beautiful restaurant,

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you have all the food and it's very small portions -

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like going away for the weekend or something -

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and then I go upstairs and eat the mini bar!

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Well, it's not going to be THAT small.

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-It'll be all right.

-OK.

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-So I've smashed the potatoes.

-A little bit of sea salt in there.

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-Yeah, I've got some sea salt in there.

-Perfect.

-Pop those aside.

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-Asparagus.

-And now we need the asparagus done.

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So, would you like all of these cooked?

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Hm, how many shall I give?

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-Just one.

-No, four.

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-Tell me, you are writing a book at the moment.

-I am.

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I'm in the process of doing a book,

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which will come out next year.

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And it's called A Fish Out Of Water.

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-Oh, I see what you've done there.

-Yeah, you see?

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I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer,

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but this name is quite a catchy name,

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because it's testament to the restaurants that I have.

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-Morston is a very lovely Michelin-starred place.

-Yes.

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And our fish and chip shop...

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erm, is what it is.

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-Fish and chips is my favourite dish.

-Is it?

-I love fish and chips.

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This gets better.

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Yeah, so fish and chips,

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and we also sort of do sort of fish tapasy things upstairs

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in the restaurant.

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-A family food restaurant.

-Yeah.

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But you can go in there and have lobster and chips,

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you can go and have Dover sole and chips, whatever.

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You can have fish and chips.

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Or you can have lots of other little tapasy things.

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And is all the fish deep-fried, or is some of it just grilled?

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No, not all of it.

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We have now got a fantastic recipe

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where we deep-fry a whole crab,

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which is extraordinary.

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-Wow!

-And it tastes brilliant.

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Wow! Pickled eggs?

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Do you do pickled eggs?

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Yes! All that sort of thing.

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Just fish, I like that idea.

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And, of course, it's in a seaside town of Cromer, so it's popular.

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Beautiful. Tomatoes, do you want both of these tomatoes?

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We'll make this vinaigrette.

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We're going to make a vinaigrette, basil vinaigrette.

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So why am I putting tomatoes in there, you're going to say?

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-Cos I like it.

-No, tomato and basil is a great combo.

-Yeah, I know.

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So just chop those up.

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Give them a squeeze

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before you put them into that other newfangled machine.

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We're keeping it simple here. You want me to give them a squeeze.

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You just don't want too much of the...

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I don't want too much of that liquid going in.

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OK, so bash them up, basically.

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OK. And what are you doing now? You're preparing your mango salsa.

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The mango salsa.

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Basically, what it is, is mango, avocado, red onion, chilli,

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lime, coriander,

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olive oil.

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Seasoning.

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Now, you're all about fresh ingredients,

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and at Morston Hall I know that you only choose the menu sometimes

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at the beginning of the day.

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Absolutely. Absolutely.

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Well, obviously, we have our main courses, sort of an idea of them...

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What we do is like an eight-course menu.

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-Yeah.

-And it changes every night of the week.

-Eight courses?

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That's music to my ears.

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It's not too long,

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and it does reflect what we've got in season.

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That's the whole point of what we do.

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I've always done it that way.

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And with eight courses, you have a nice wine with every course as well.

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You can, potentially, yes. And I often do, yeah!

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And the first few courses, you're like, "Oh, this is nice."

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And then by course five or six, you're not really that bothered

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-what you're drinking.

-To be fair, yeah.

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As long as the wine's there, then you aren't fussed.

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Right, we've got to speed this up a little bit.

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-Do you want all of this in?

-Yes, put all that in, please.

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OK.

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Do you use these machines at home, Martin?

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Have you got the vac pack?

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Yeah, I've got several of them.

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All in the cupboard.

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All in the bottom cupboard in the corner.

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Never see the light of day.

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-OK. Are we almost done there?

-Yeah.

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Right, I'm going to leave that for a second

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and have a bit of a clean down.

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OK, so what are you doing now? We're just finishing off the salsa.

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A little olive oil in there.

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-Right, we don't need this any more.

-OK.

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So, our sea trout...

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..is just about cooked.

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-Jose, do you grow your own herbs?

-Oh, yeah.

-Yeah?

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-I just got something called chocolate mint.

-Chocolate mint?!

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It's unbelievable.

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-Tell me about that.

-Just rub in your hand, smell it.

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Go so well with my chocolate pots.

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With olive oil and salt. You put some of those mint...

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That sounds amazing!

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-Chocolate mint?!

-Stunning.

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-Are you winding me up, Jose?

-No, no, seriously.

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I will send some to you.

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Just stunning.

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I haven't come across chocolate mint. Is it chocolate in colour?

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-It's purple. It's gorgeous.

-OK. What else do you grow?

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I have my lemon thyme, all different mints,

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more than that, strawberry mint as well.

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-Yeah, rosemary, all of them.

-Rosemary's really easy to grow.

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Mint grows like wildfire, doesn't it?

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And this trout is just poached.

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It's just beautiful.

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I'm going to show you the other one now, because it is just cooked.

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-It almost gives the impression that it's not cooked.

-Yeah.

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But it's just cooked.

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Wild sea trout, purple potatoes,

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mango salsa, asparagus, basil vinaigrette.

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That's beautiful. And the colours are just stunning.

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-Thank you.

-Eating the rainbow.

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Look what we made.

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-Well, I didn't do a great deal.

-Amazing.

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-To be honest.

-Wow!

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-Amazing.

-It looks amazing.

-It does look amazing, doesn't it, Martin?

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-Yeah, really.

-There you go.

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-Dig in.

-Wow!

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Taste, taste, taste.

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The trout is just looking stunning.

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Beautiful.

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To be fair, that trout is cooked really nicely!

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-Well done!

-I don't often shout about my own stuff, but that is all right.

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-Yeah.

-Looks stunning.

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-It's really lovely.

-Is that all right?

-Really nice, yeah.

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The potatoes are delicious as well.

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So, this great dish needs a great wine,

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and Ollie Smith is on duty today.

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What's he picked up to go with Galton's glorious trout?

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I've come to Clapham in London,

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and we're a stone's throw from the Saturday Kitchen studio.

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And do you know what?

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There is a secret foodie scene beneath my feet.

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We are going underground.

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I'm 33 metres beneath the very studios

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where Saturday Kitchen is filmed,

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where all this wonderment is growing.

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Tasty treats!

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This incredible underground tunnel system stretches over a kilometre.

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Originally a World War Two air-raid shelter,

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it's now being used to grow various herbs,

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which get distributed straight into London's foodie scene.

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Herbilicious!

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With Galton's scrumptious sea trout,

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a classic combination would be to choose a white wine

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from France's Burgundy, such as this Macon-Village.

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It's delicious,

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but with the asparagus and basil in the dish,

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it kicks things into a higher gear,

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so I'm heading over to Italy

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to select a wine that's even more refreshing.

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Taste The Difference Verdicchio Dei Castelli Di Jesi.

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Viva vino!

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This wine comes from the Marche in Italy.

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If you imagine Italy as being your leg,

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it's the bit at the back of the thigh that connects with the knee.

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The grape is Verdicchio

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and it has this phenomenal citrus intensity to it,

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a bit like a lemon being fired from a cannonball.

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It's a wonderful alternative

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to better-known grapes like Pinot Grigio.

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But do you know what,

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with fresh fish dishes, this is the mermaid's jewels.

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Ah! That just tastes like sunshine on holiday.

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The fish itself has a subtle salty character to it,

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and it's the brightness of this wine that's spot-on to gleam alongside.

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And then you've got the basil and asparagus.

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Their herbaceousness is really well suited to this wine,

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that loves that summery garden fragrance.

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And finally, the mango sauce.

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For that, you need a wine that's peachy and fulsome,

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and this Verdicchio is an absolute gem.

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Galton, here's to your superlative sea trout. Cheers!

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That was amazing.

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You know those herbs are actually grown right underneath the studio.

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There's hundreds of metres of herbs and produce. Incredible.

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So what do we think of the wine?

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I think Ollie is quite good at this job, cos that is superb.

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-That is really good.

-So summery.

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With that, I would imagine that goes beautifully.

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-Quite light.

-Yeah, it's really nice.

-I like that.

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-Yeah.

-Perfect combination.

-Mm.

-Perfect.

-He knows very well.

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He does.

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Jose, you're cooking next. Remind us what you're making.

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Grilled neck of lamb, marinated with honey, paprika,

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and then oven potatoes

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and oven tomatoes.

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-Get over there now! Go and start now!

-Simple.

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Sounds good. Lamb, I love lamb.

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OK, it's time to catch up with Rick Stein.

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He's in Turkey, picking tomatoes.

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This is the sort of thing I love doing,

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just walking to a tomato field -

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gosh - finding some lovely, ripe tomatoes.

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I've borrowed a knife from one of these ladies.

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Do you know, they also had some salt.

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I mean, what would a tomato be without salt?

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So now...

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..this...

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is heaven.

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This small field produces 14 tonnes of tomatoes in a season.

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Just shows - yes, I'm going to use the word again -

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fecund this area is.

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It's so fertile.

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The reason, apart from the great soil,

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is the climate.

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It's a mixture of Mediterranean - hot, dry -

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and Balkans - a little milder,

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a little wetter, and when you look around

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you can see there's a lot more rainfall here

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than there was south,

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producing these most divine tomatoes.

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One of the great revelations of this journey has been the tomato.

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Every meal I've really enjoyed

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has been full of chopped, sweet, juicy tomatoes

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that's provided all the liquid needed for so many dishes.

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The Turks go one better with salce,

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a rich, fruity tomato paste,

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squeezed tomatoes minus the pips,

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plus salt and lots of sunshine,

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about two weeks of sun, until the liquid dries off.

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But there's one spice that grows all over the place in great abundance,

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and if anyone was to say what the quintessential taste of Turkey was,

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then it could be this.

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I'm very pleased to have got hold of this.

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This is sumac, it comes from the Arab word "sumac",

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which means red.

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And lucky, because as soon as the rains start in the autumn,

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all the flavour which surrounds these little seeds go.

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Always ends up in the back of my larder,

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just dried out and forgotten,

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but now I'm into Turkish food, never again!

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It's really lemony. I mean, unbelievable lemony.

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And quite often, it's used in place of lemon juice in soups and stews

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and sprinkled over mezzos.

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It's quite the most distinctive flavour

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in Turkey, I would say.

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And so, to cook in my fab kitchen on the island of Symi.

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I'll miss this a lot.

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What could be better than having a kitchen overlooking the Aegean,

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cooking dishes I've discovered on my journey, like this one.

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This is sumac chicken.

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I'm just crushing my garlic under my knife, like that.

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And now this pul beber, which is this hot red pepper,

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chilli hot red pepper, from Turkey.

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Sometimes called Aleppo pepper as well.

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And now sumac. Lots of sumac.

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This is the main ingredient in the dish.

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It's got a sort of fruity lemony-ness,

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which is very distinctive and goes very well with chicken.

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So, now, sundried tomato paste, salce.

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Two good teaspoons of that.

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And another great Turkish produce, pomegranate molasses.

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Slightly astringent sort of almost vinegary flavour, but sweet as well.

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Fabulous in salads and fabulous with this chicken.

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Now some salt - a fair bit, as this is just a coating.

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And some olive oil.

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There we go.

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I mean, this is very simple, this dish, but I love it.

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And I think the children will love it too.

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It's not too spicy.

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But full of flavour.

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And now just add my chicken pieces.

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So now just turn that all over

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and work the marinade into the chicken.

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Looking lovely, smelling great, I must say.

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Now I'll leave that to sit and marinade for an hour or so...

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..while I wash my hands.

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Yes, the marinating takes an hour at least.

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Enough time to watch life going by on this lovely island.

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Notice I've never said, "Here's one I prepared earlier."

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Olive oil.

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And some sesame seeds.

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All over the top.

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So, when I bake this,

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I'm looking for it to come out

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really deep golden-brown and slightly charred,

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because I suspect dishes like this

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would have originally been done in a Turkish tandoor,

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like the Indian tandoori ovens,

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where you get this lovely, intense dry heat,

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and you do want a bit of a charred look at the end.

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So, that goes in a hot oven,

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about 200 degrees,

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for about 20-25 minutes.

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It's very handy having somewhere to cook like that.

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I mean, when I put something in the oven,

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I come out for a bit of fishing or go for a swim.

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'Nice job, if you've got one like that, eh?'

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Yeah, all right!

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I was really surprised by this.

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It's good to discover new tastes.

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We've all cooked roasted barbecued chicken,

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but this, I think, is really different.

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It's got a fresh, clean, lemony, zesty taste,

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and with a kick of chilli.

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I love it.

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And I'm serving it with some pilaf rice. It goes very well.

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Thanks, Rick.

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There are so many interesting and delicious ingredients from Turkey.

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Sumac is fantastic and I'm a big fan of pomegranate.

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It's got just the right balance of sharp and sweet,

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so it works really well in desserts.

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I'm going to show how you can use it to make a delicious panna cotta -

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with yoghurt, cos I know you like yoghurt, right?

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-I love yoghurt, I love pomegranate.

-Yeah?

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-Pomegranate was a real treat in my house when I grew up.

-OK.

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Well, I'm making this very tasty panna cotta,

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and it's quite stunning, the end result.

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So I'm putting some milk and double cream and sugar in here

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to make the cooked element of it.

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So, tell me, Martin, what do you have going on at the moment?

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At the moment, every Saturday morning from 10am till 1pm,

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-me and Fearne Cotton are going to be taking over Radio 2.

-That's cool!

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And putting together our own show, which is a lot of fun,

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designing it at the moment.

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We've got some great guests, we're playing our own music,

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choosing what music we want to do.

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Radio 2 isn't playlist,

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so we can kind of do what we want to do.

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And some nice guests, some fun and games. It's going to be cool.

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-Some live radio.

-Have you done a lot of radio before?

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Yeah, bits and pieces in the past,

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but never kind of my own show, as such.

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-Yeah.

-So, it's something I'm really looking forward to.

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Just popping the vanilla in.

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-Summertime.

-Saturday morning, relaxing.

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-It'll be great.

-Exactly.

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Everybody going on holiday

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and it's on Saturdays during the summer,

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it'll be a nice way to put some music to that trip for them.

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So I've just added the vanilla.

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I love vanilla in most of my desserts.

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-Great flavour. Do you make many desserts at home?

-Not really.

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To be honest, I try and stay away from desserts.

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As much as I love them.

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You know, I have to look after my waistline as well.

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-You can always have a taste.

-Listen, I'm looking forward to it!

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I'm just saying, when I grew up,

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THAT was such a treat in my house.

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That was a Saturday morning treat because it was so rare.

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Really? We just had oranges.

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And melon, when I was growing up.

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And you were touring last year, is that right?

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Yeah, I was touring with the band last year,

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and we were out for a long time, about 18 months or something,

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touring the world.

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-Yeah.

-All told.

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But now I'm touring

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with a show called An Audience With Martin Kemp.

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I get out on stage and tell loads of funny stories

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about the band and my life being an actor

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and EastEnders, the Kray Twins, all of that stuff.

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So I'm really enjoying that. When I was on stage with Spandau...

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Sorry to interrupt. I've just popped the gelatine in there.

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-That's so it will set.

-Just keep stopping me.

-Please, do go on!

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I just want to make sure everyone knows what I'm doing.

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When I was on stage with Spandau, what I realised

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is when all the lights come up and you're playing to 10,000 people,

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the people at the back look like a speck of dust.

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Nothing more. They don't even look like people.

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So I thought, if you turn that round,

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what they're seeing of me on stage is a speck of dust.

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So I thought, let's get out there and meet people.

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Amazing. So, I'm just going to do a quick recap.

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-I've put...

-For me or you?

-For everyone!

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Milk, cream, vanilla,

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sugar in there,

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and I've just cooked it and I've added some gelatine.

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So I've squeezed out the gelatine and added it to that mixture.

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And then that needs to be nice and cool,

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so I've got one here ready

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so when I add the yoghurt to it, it mixes nicely.

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So this is Greek yoghurt.

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-Oh, I love that.

-That's the stage I'm at now.

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So this Audience With, that sounds really exciting.

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You've got so many fans.

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It's been really good. It's a great experience.

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A great chance to get out

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and meet everybody that's supported you over the years,

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and also at the end of the Audience With,

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I do half an hour where it's kind of open to anybody's questions.

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You can talk about things that you can't talk about on TV,

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you can't talk about in magazines,

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but there's stuff that's happened to me and the band

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-that are unmentionable!

-Ooh!

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Not for a family show, such as this.

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But in real life, when I'm talking to an audience,

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we can talk about it, and that's what the fun is.

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Right, so I'm just tipping this in.

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I want half of panna cotta,

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so I've got these egg cartons like that.

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So I get a nice tilt. OK? And then I'll pop this in the fridge to set.

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-It's very artistic.

-So, have you got any more plans to tour?

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-Touring with Spandau?

-Yeah.

-I wish I could say yes.

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But, listen, if it was up to me,

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I would be touring every day, because I love it.

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I love being in the band,

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I'm so comfortable inside Spandau Ballet with my four best mates.

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But I'm not the only one in that band,

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so if you could phone the other four up

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and have a word with them,

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then I'd appreciate it.

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And how long were you touring for?

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Well, I think we were out for about a year, all told.

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18 months doing promo and about a year playing.

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-Yeah?

-But we finished a few months ago.

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Do you guys stay in touch a lot?

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We stay in touch as far as...

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You know that bit at Heathrow where the belt brings around the bags?

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-Yeah, oh...

-And you collect your bags?

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-The carousel, yeah.

-The carousel.

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And soon as we collect the bags and leave Heathrow, that's it,

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"See you in a couple of years' time."

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So wait for it to melt, and then I'm going to add the pomegranate juice.

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Pomegranate and raspberry.

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So you want that colour, that contrast.

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What kind of music do you listen to?

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Because I love '80s music so much.

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I mean, that is... In my car, always '80s music.

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I am a really big kind of '70s rock fan.

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I love 1970s Rolling Stones, er...

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and stuff like that, you know? So...

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But I'm really varied, you know,

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I think growing up inside a band

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kind of opens your mind up to a lot of different types of music.

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You know, lots of jazz,

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and lots of, er...lots of rock and lots of pop as well

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that I get a chance to listen to.

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You know my boy is a DJ at Capital Radio now.

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-Oh, wow!

-He has his own show in the evenings there.

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And so just from him doing that it's kind of opened my mind up

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to lots of pop that is going on nowadays,

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and I think the pop music chart, at the moment,

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is the healthiest it's been since the '80s.

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So just to recap, this is set,

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and then I've poured in the pomegranate and raspberry jelly.

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Pop that in the fridge to set for...

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overnight or a few hours,

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and then you get this magical thing out.

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-It looks amazing, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

-Stunning.

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So what I'm going to do is just put a few of your...

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A few pomegranates on top...

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Pomegranates on top.

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-And then...

-My special Saturday treat.

-Saturday treat, exactly.

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And then, erm, when I'm using mint leaves to garnish,

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I just like to use the small ones in the middle.

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And then just lay them...

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-..in the centre like that.

-Wow.

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-Very pretty.

-D'you like that?

-I do, it looks really good.

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-I'm mesmerised by it all.

-Are you going to put this on your menu?

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There's potential.

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I haven't seen those packets of jelly like that for years,

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I didn't even realise you still get them.

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I used to eat them, you know, just like sweets.

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-On the school bus, super cool!

-Yeah.

-OK, there it is.

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Great.

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-I'll try this.

-D'you want to have a try?

-Yeah, I'm going to dig in.

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Get your pomegranate. Dig deep.

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I'm going to start crying in a minute

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cos it's going to take me home, isn't it?

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Aw, that's good. Did you get the panna cotta and the jelly?

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It's delicious, it's really lovely.

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-Fantastic.

-Mmm, really good.

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-What happens to the other one?

-Supposed to be for us, no?

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-I'll pop those in the fridge.

-No, that one!

-No, that one.

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Oh, that's for me!

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So, what will I be making for Martin at the end of the show?

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It could be his Food Heaven, curry,

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and my version of chicken tikka masala.

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The chicken is cooked with ginger, garlic, onions, paprika,

0:31:550:31:59

garam masala, mustard, turmeric and tomato.

0:31:590:32:01

And I'll add some yoghurt,

0:32:010:32:03

then let it simmer gently

0:32:030:32:05

and serve it with basmati rice

0:32:050:32:07

and fresh coriander on top.

0:32:070:32:09

Or it could be his Food Hell, pork.

0:32:090:32:12

The pork is rubbed in soy sauce, chilli powder, five-spice,

0:32:130:32:17

sugar, garlic and ginger,

0:32:170:32:19

and then cooked for eight hours until it's just falling apart.

0:32:190:32:22

That sounds delicious!

0:32:220:32:24

It is, and it's served in a bun with spicy slaw and mayonnaise.

0:32:240:32:29

We're letting fate decide the outcome today,

0:32:290:32:31

and you can find out how later on.

0:32:310:32:34

Right, let's take a trip to China with Ken Hom and Ching He Huang.

0:32:340:32:38

They're visiting the city of Chengdu,

0:32:380:32:40

a place Ken hasn't stayed in for quite a few years -

0:32:400:32:43

and it seems a lot has changed.

0:32:430:32:45

Chengdu is at the centre of the government's "Go West" policy.

0:32:510:32:56

It's invested 300 billion

0:32:560:32:59

to spark an economic boom in western China,

0:32:590:33:03

on a par with Beijing and Shanghai.

0:33:030:33:06

Can you imagine, this whole area...

0:33:060:33:09

most of these buildings were not here.

0:33:090:33:11

When I was here in 1989,

0:33:130:33:15

it was still a fairly primitive place.

0:33:150:33:18

Many of the streets were little more than dirt roads,

0:33:190:33:22

and people brought produce in from the countryside

0:33:220:33:25

on carts pulled by donkeys.

0:33:250:33:26

Now, Chengdu has a population of 14 million,

0:33:300:33:33

and the fastest rate of urbanisation in the world.

0:33:330:33:37

In the next decade,

0:33:370:33:38

it's expected to increase by nearly a million people every year.

0:33:380:33:44

-There it is, that's the hotel.

-Oh, that's the one?

0:33:440:33:46

That's the hotel I stayed in. It was the tallest building in Chengdu.

0:33:460:33:50

That's it. You see now, it's dwarfed by all these other buildings.

0:33:500:33:53

Yes, and they keep building.

0:33:530:33:54

Look how many cranes there are over there.

0:33:540:33:57

It's just amazing.

0:33:590:34:00

I thought it would be a lot of change,

0:34:030:34:06

but not sort of this much.

0:34:060:34:08

It's shocking at the beginning,

0:34:080:34:10

because it's a sleepy backwater here.

0:34:100:34:12

You expect that from Shanghai and Beijing - but not from Chengdu.

0:34:140:34:17

'Jenny's been kind enough to invite us to her grandparents' home,

0:34:250:34:28

'where she spent her early childhood.'

0:34:280:34:30

My cousins and I used to come

0:34:310:34:33

and we would, er, you know, get together for family lunches.

0:34:330:34:36

You know, dumplings and noodles.

0:34:360:34:38

'It's exciting for me,

0:34:380:34:39

'as I've always believed the best cooking is in the home,

0:34:390:34:43

'and a taste of family life

0:34:430:34:44

'is a great way to get beneath the skin of the city.'

0:34:440:34:47

-So these are my grandparents.

-Oh, hi!

0:34:490:34:52

My grandfather.

0:34:520:34:54

'Jenny's grandparents are in their 80s,

0:34:540:34:56

'and as is traditional in Chinese culture,

0:34:560:34:58

'one of their sons lives at home

0:34:580:35:00

'and takes care of them with his wife, Jenny's aunt.'

0:35:000:35:04

TRANSLATION:

0:35:060:35:08

-84! I'm sorry!

-84?

0:35:130:35:15

'While Ching gets to know the family,

0:35:190:35:21

'I really want to see the local market,

0:35:210:35:24

'and join Jenny's aunt on her daily trip to buy fresh ingredients.'

0:35:240:35:27

'Most days she's here at the crack of dawn to get the best produce.

0:35:340:35:39

'She spends around five hours each morning

0:35:390:35:41

'shopping and preparing lunch for her family.'

0:35:410:35:44

'I offer to help out with a dish of my own.'

0:35:450:35:48

More sausages...

0:35:480:35:49

'And I'm on the lookout for inspiration.'

0:35:490:35:52

'It's a struggle, though, to understand the local dialect.'

0:35:550:35:58

So typical Chinese!

0:36:080:36:10

Yeah, I know, I'm embarrassed!

0:36:120:36:14

'I've always loved markets,

0:36:150:36:17

'and in China they're a particular pleasure -

0:36:170:36:21

'chaotic and, despite the government's pledge

0:36:210:36:23

'to improve food safety, I can't see many fridges.'

0:36:230:36:27

Oh, d'you see this? The fish, see, live.

0:36:310:36:33

This is how Chinese want freshness.

0:36:350:36:37

They want to make sure their fish is really fresh.

0:36:400:36:43

Look at this, er...

0:36:430:36:44

'I spotted some rabbit, a specialty in Sichuan.'

0:36:450:36:49

'As soon as we return, Jenny's aunt gets straight to work on the lunch.'

0:36:550:36:59

'I'm making a simple rabbit stir fry...'

0:37:010:37:03

'..but you could use chicken for this dish.'

0:37:040:37:07

'I'm using a marinade of soy sauce, sesame oil,

0:37:080:37:12

'with a coating of cornflour.'

0:37:120:37:13

'It's usually best left for a couple of hours to take effect.

0:37:140:37:19

'I'm cooking the rabbit with garlic

0:37:190:37:21

'and the less-spicy green chillies,

0:37:210:37:23

'as the flesh has a delicate flavour.'

0:37:230:37:25

What people outside of China don't know is that, er,

0:37:270:37:32

even home cooks will heat the wok up

0:37:320:37:35

until it's very, very hot before they add the oil.

0:37:350:37:38

So I've heated it up for a few minutes now, this is good firepower.

0:37:380:37:44

As you can see, it's smoking like this.

0:37:440:37:47

Don't worry, you want this to be very hot.

0:37:470:37:49

'You obviously have to be careful doing this at home,

0:37:510:37:54

'but if you pull the wok away from the heat,

0:37:540:37:56

'the flames will die down quickly.'

0:37:560:37:58

This is the way, actually,

0:38:000:38:02

you should be cooking it.

0:38:020:38:04

This is what gives, erm,

0:38:040:38:07

Chinese food its very, very special flavour.

0:38:070:38:12

It seals in the juices.

0:38:120:38:14

Now...

0:38:150:38:17

It's very important to take all this now and drain this.

0:38:180:38:22

We add the garlic and the chillies,

0:38:240:38:28

and instead of adding more oil,

0:38:280:38:30

which is a mistake a lot of cooks make

0:38:300:38:33

when they're not familiar with Chinese,

0:38:330:38:35

you could add a little bit of this broth I made from the rabbit bones.

0:38:350:38:39

And at the very end,

0:38:410:38:43

I return the rabbit...

0:38:430:38:45

'I'm only braising the rabbit meat for a couple of minutes.

0:38:450:38:49

'In the West, we usually aim for tenderness,

0:38:490:38:52

'but here people love chewy textures

0:38:520:38:54

'and really appreciate the feel of food in the mouth.'

0:38:540:38:57

Very Sichuanese, then.

0:39:100:39:11

As Ken said, you could also make his stir fry with chicken

0:39:190:39:23

if you don't fancy rabbit.

0:39:230:39:24

Still to come this morning,

0:39:240:39:26

James Martin is at home making a mighty sandwich.

0:39:260:39:29

It's got layers of salmon, onions and fresh watercress pesto inside.

0:39:290:39:33

Luckily, he's invited a friend round to help share it.

0:39:330:39:36

There's no Omelette Challenge today,

0:39:360:39:38

and we've got a culinary test of a different kind lined up instead.

0:39:380:39:42

We're calling it Spin The Bottle,

0:39:420:39:44

and all will be revealed a little later on.

0:39:440:39:47

And will Martin be facing Food Heaven,

0:39:470:39:49

a curry in the form of chicken tikka masala,

0:39:490:39:52

or Food Hell, Asian pulled pork in a bun with spicy slaw?

0:39:520:39:57

You can see what he ends up with at the end of the show.

0:39:570:40:00

-Now, let's keep cooking. Jose!

-Hello!

0:40:000:40:03

You're next, take it away, Jose.

0:40:030:40:05

-How are you doing, my darling?

-I'm good, what are you making for us?

0:40:050:40:08

-I have a very simple recipe.

-Yes.

-It is for a neck of lamb.

-Yes.

0:40:080:40:11

We are going to marinate with a pimento and paprika, honey,

0:40:110:40:14

-er, some garlic and oregano.

-Mmm...

-Simple.

0:40:140:40:19

And we are going to serve with some tomatoes, roast tomatoes,

0:40:190:40:22

and some roast potatoes.

0:40:220:40:24

Can you help me, my darling, please?

0:40:240:40:25

Yeah, what would you like me to do first?

0:40:250:40:27

Tomato for me, just cut in the middle, and some garlic.

0:40:270:40:30

Smash the garlic, olive oil,

0:40:300:40:32

straight to the oven, please.

0:40:320:40:35

-Will do.

-And for, erm... For the marinade, just some paprika here,

0:40:350:40:39

that'll do, like that.

0:40:390:40:41

-Mm-hm.

-Lovely, lovely.

0:40:410:40:43

Olive oil, have to be olive oil.

0:40:430:40:45

My life without olive oil is no life!

0:40:450:40:48

No, yeah, I know what you mean!

0:40:480:40:50

So, how do we cook lamb neck? Lamb neck.

0:40:500:40:52

-Is it slow-cook? Pan-fry?

-No, it have to be...

0:40:520:40:54

I'm going to pan-fry, huh,

0:40:540:40:57

and then we are going to cook in the oven,

0:40:570:40:59

I will say between seven to eight minutes,

0:40:590:41:02

-seven to ten minutes, not much, yeah?

-Great.

0:41:020:41:04

-Some oregano...

-OK.

-..like that.

0:41:040:41:06

But, erm, lamb neck, I haven't actually seen it so much,

0:41:060:41:09

you can get it from the butcher's, obviously, in the supermarket.

0:41:090:41:13

-Look at that.

-Beautiful!

-Beautiful. I love this type of meat.

-Yeah.

0:41:130:41:17

Because this meat been working so hard,

0:41:170:41:19

the muscle been working really hard,

0:41:190:41:21

and the flavour is just much better,

0:41:210:41:23

there's more fat, it's just stunning, really, really good.

0:41:230:41:26

So how much would that be, that piece of lamb?

0:41:260:41:28

Er, I think selling around £19,

0:41:280:41:30

-because, of course, have to be British.

-It's quite pricey.

0:41:300:41:33

It is, yeah, but, you know, in this life,

0:41:330:41:36

good things cost money.

0:41:360:41:38

-Simple as that, no?

-Special occasion.

0:41:390:41:42

And could you suggest another cut, if we can't get to the butcher's?

0:41:430:41:48

You can get, erm...

0:41:480:41:49

You can do easily with a cutlet - lamb cutlet, amazing.

0:41:490:41:53

And the good thing is that you can barbecue them.

0:41:530:41:56

Ooh, I love a barbecue.

0:41:560:41:57

And this bit is just amazing, really lovely.

0:41:570:42:00

Really just amazing.

0:42:000:42:01

People need to eat more lamb - British lamb, just amazing.

0:42:010:42:05

-I agree, I love lamb.

-D'you know what I mean? Just amazing.

0:42:050:42:08

You could butterfly a leg of lamb and do the same thing, couldn't you?

0:42:080:42:12

Yeah, you can do as well.

0:42:120:42:13

-And d'you know how I love my butterfly?

-Yeah.

0:42:130:42:16

Just with olives, black olives,

0:42:160:42:18

anchovies, rosemary and garlic.

0:42:180:42:21

-Beautiful.

-D'you keep it flat or do you roll it?

-Flat.

-Yeah.

0:42:210:42:24

-Then straight to the barbecue.

-Yeah.

0:42:240:42:26

Happy with that, my friend, very good.

0:42:260:42:28

-How are you doing, my dear? You all right?

-Er, this is ready,

0:42:280:42:31

so I know you're going to show us how to cook it, but I just...

0:42:310:42:34

-That later.

-That's nice and ready.

-Yeah, you have to marinate.

0:42:340:42:37

-So you'll do your marinades.

-Like that. Huh? Look at the smell.

0:42:370:42:40

All the smell from the pimento and the paprika, you know,

0:42:400:42:44

-is just amazing, with the sweetness from the honey.

-Yep.

-Huh?

0:42:440:42:48

It's just... Look at that.

0:42:480:42:50

Simple but flavours.

0:42:510:42:54

-Like this.

-Have you got, erm, a book out?

-Yeah, came out...

0:42:540:42:57

-Earlier this year.

-Yeah, in March.

0:42:570:42:59

Mama mia, sounds so far away!

0:42:590:43:01

From the Basque Region.

0:43:010:43:03

-Tell us about the book.

-Yeah, the book is, erm...

0:43:030:43:06

It's really focused on ingredients from the area.

0:43:060:43:10

I have, like, ten recipes,

0:43:100:43:11

-really typical recipes from the Basque.

-OK.

0:43:110:43:14

And then, I am so lucky,

0:43:140:43:15

I met so many great people in the area,

0:43:150:43:17

and they gave me great recipes, you know?

0:43:170:43:20

The old ladies from the market, and yeah, it's, er...

0:43:200:43:23

It's lovely, I have to say. Doing very well, what can I say?

0:43:240:43:27

I've been there a lot, and the food is amazing from there.

0:43:270:43:29

Food there, it's just unbelievable.

0:43:290:43:31

How does it differ from food, you know, in other regions of Spain?

0:43:310:43:35

The thing about the Basque Country, they have the best ingredients.

0:43:350:43:39

We are so lucky there.

0:43:390:43:40

They, you know, the sea, the seafood there is just unbelievable,

0:43:400:43:44

the lamb, the beef...

0:43:440:43:46

Everything is just bright,

0:43:460:43:48

-and the good thing about the Basque Country, they cook simple.

-Yes.

0:43:480:43:53

You know? No fuss, like this one.

0:43:530:43:55

Simple but flavours,

0:43:550:43:57

and then you have the three Michelin-star restaurants there

0:43:570:44:00

that I love to go as well, but the thing I do enjoy,

0:44:000:44:03

-just go to the old part of the city...

-Yes.

0:44:030:44:07

..and just having pinchos,

0:44:070:44:09

cerveza, a glass of Txakoli,

0:44:090:44:11

it's the local wine, and happy days.

0:44:110:44:14

Look at this - been marinated for around 10, 12 hours, I will say.

0:44:140:44:19

And straight to the pan.

0:44:190:44:21

So I've popped the tomatoes in, garlic, salt and pepper,

0:44:210:44:23

a bit of oil.

0:44:230:44:25

And what's my next task?

0:44:250:44:27

Next task, please, help me to peel some potatoes.

0:44:270:44:30

Peel some potatoes.

0:44:300:44:32

Very important - don't put the pan too hot.

0:44:320:44:36

-With the lamb?

-With the lamb.

0:44:360:44:37

Because the tendency is to turn up really hot

0:44:370:44:39

and get that colour on it.

0:44:390:44:41

Yeah, you can do that,

0:44:410:44:42

but all the honey will get burned very quick.

0:44:420:44:44

OK, so you've got a low heat.

0:44:440:44:46

-Just leave it like that, hmm?

-Yeah.

0:44:460:44:48

Nice and slowly.

0:44:480:44:49

You have to caramelise,

0:44:510:44:52

you want to bring all the flavours together,

0:44:520:44:54

but don't be too quick.

0:44:540:44:55

How long does that take?

0:44:550:44:57

I will say four to five minutes.

0:44:570:44:59

The smell now, you know,

0:44:590:45:00

all the studio smell like paprika,

0:45:000:45:02

the pimenton.

0:45:020:45:04

I want to ask, Jose, potentially,

0:45:040:45:07

you could also cook that for a long time?

0:45:070:45:09

-Yeah, you can do for a long time.

-So it's almost...

0:45:090:45:11

This is brilliant, cos it's fool proof -

0:45:110:45:13

you cook it either quickly or for a very long time.

0:45:130:45:16

It's like the squid, a squid or cuttlefish,

0:45:160:45:19

there's nothing in the middle.

0:45:190:45:20

Very quick...

0:45:200:45:22

-Or very long.

-..or very slow.

0:45:220:45:25

Lamb is quite different to squid, though,

0:45:250:45:27

-but I know what you're talking about.

-Absolutely.

0:45:270:45:29

-I love both of them.

-So we could pop that in a slow cooker, for instance?

0:45:290:45:33

-Yes.

-Yeah? And how long would I cook it for in a slow cooker?

0:45:330:45:36

-Slow cooker, why not eight hours like your pork?

-Eight...

0:45:360:45:39

-Ah-ha, the good old eight hours, yeah.

-Absolutely.

0:45:390:45:41

OK, so talk us through what's happening here.

0:45:410:45:44

I'll just slice some peppers.

0:45:440:45:46

And straight to the bowl, some onion...

0:45:460:45:49

-Huh?

-Yep.

-Like that.

-And this is to go with the potatoes, is that right?

0:45:510:45:55

Yes, we're going to want to mix everything together, like that.

0:45:550:45:59

OK, so what do you want me to do with these potatoes?

0:46:000:46:02

Just slice, please, something like that.

0:46:020:46:05

-And me, myself, I'm going to chop some shallots, like this...

-Yes.

0:46:050:46:10

Straight to the hot oil.

0:46:100:46:12

-OK, and this is for your sauce?

-Exactly.

0:46:120:46:15

So I've taken out those tomatoes, they look delicious.

0:46:150:46:18

They are just amazing. Now it's time for tomatoes, huh?

0:46:180:46:21

-Like that, look at that. Beautiful. And...

-Potatoes in here?

0:46:220:46:28

-Potatoes in there, please. Can you put some olive oil?

-Sure.

0:46:280:46:31

Now, I know you make a great soup with these tomatoes

0:46:310:46:34

that you say is better than your mum's. Tell us.

0:46:340:46:37

You know, my mum is the best chef in the world.

0:46:370:46:39

But... And she make amazing tomato sauce... Sorry, soup!

0:46:390:46:44

But my tomato soup is amazing.

0:46:440:46:46

And it's... Essentially it's better than hers.

0:46:460:46:49

It's the only thing I can say my mum...

0:46:490:46:51

Does she know that, yeah?

0:46:520:46:53

No, but the good thing is she doesn't speak English.

0:46:530:46:56

THEY LAUGH

0:46:560:46:58

So if she's watching...?

0:46:580:46:59

She can, yeah... She will be watching for sure,

0:46:590:47:01

but she will never understand.

0:47:010:47:04

Anyway, like that.

0:47:040:47:06

And we are going to put some chicken stock.

0:47:070:47:10

If you want to do the soup, just put more, huh?

0:47:100:47:12

-More stock?

-More stock.

0:47:120:47:14

-So do you want this...?

-But that is absolutely fine.

0:47:140:47:17

-Sorry, do you want this in...?

-Please.

-Just chopped or...?

-Sliced.

0:47:170:47:20

-Sliced.

-And some pepper as well.

-OK.

0:47:200:47:23

Now we are heating up a little bit like this.

0:47:230:47:26

So, my father is a Spanish teacher,

0:47:260:47:27

-and he...

-And you speak Spanish, of course?

-Er...

0:47:270:47:30

LORRAINE LAUGHS

0:47:300:47:32

-Un poquito.

-Um, yeah, no, not really.

-Not really?

0:47:320:47:35

Not even a poquito!

0:47:350:47:36

I heard sometime you were booking a table, you can say that.

0:47:360:47:40

Oh, una mesa...

0:47:400:47:41

-That's a table?!

-Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

0:47:420:47:45

Para dos personas, por favor.

0:47:450:47:47

-That's it.

-Almost perfect.

0:47:470:47:49

-That's as far as it goes.

-Look at that.

0:47:490:47:51

-Looks yummy, and we are going to put some...

-OK, garlic.

-..thyme.

0:47:510:47:55

Like, we are talking about herbs.

0:47:550:47:57

-Thyme...

-Thyme, fresh thyme, oregano.

0:47:570:48:00

So we've got thyme, oregano -

0:48:000:48:03

love it, fresh, all fresh.

0:48:030:48:05

What do you think about dried herbs?

0:48:050:48:07

Like I say before - no way, Jose!

0:48:070:48:10

But they're very old-fashioned now, aren't they?

0:48:110:48:14

-Yeah, it's off.

-You know...

-They are gone.

0:48:140:48:17

Once upon a time there were cupboards full of dried herbs,

0:48:170:48:20

and now you don't really get them.

0:48:200:48:21

We are going to put as well the garlic - rose garlic,

0:48:210:48:24

look at that, yummy, hmm?

0:48:240:48:26

-One more.

-So you've just rubbed...

0:48:260:48:28

OK, the garlic, yeah.

0:48:280:48:30

And...

0:48:310:48:32

..the potatoes, almost ready.

0:48:330:48:36

Potatoes almost ready, so this goes into the oven.

0:48:360:48:39

A little bit more.

0:48:390:48:40

-More olive oil.

-More olive oil, please.

0:48:400:48:42

-Do you want salt and pepper?

-Yes, please.

-OK.

0:48:420:48:45

-Hmm?

-Salt and pepper, so your tomatoes are cooking very nicely.

0:48:450:48:48

-The tomatoes, nicely there, almost...

-Salt and pepper.

-Yeah.

0:48:480:48:51

And as you see, what we are looking, for the lamb, huh?

0:48:510:48:55

Nice, slow.

0:48:550:48:58

-But, you know, look at that colour.

-Oh, look at the colour on that.

0:48:580:49:02

That's a perfect caramelised...

0:49:020:49:03

So you just did that very slowly, very gently.

0:49:030:49:06

And then, like we say,

0:49:060:49:07

in the oven for around between seven to ten minutes, hmm?

0:49:070:49:11

And because this is magic, and this is TV,

0:49:120:49:14

we have one already here, lovely and resting.

0:49:140:49:18

So you're plating up now.

0:49:180:49:19

-Mm-hm.

-Got the potatoes.

-One more potato.

0:49:190:49:22

-They're nice and crispy round the edges.

-Uh-huh.

0:49:220:49:24

And the peppers, all caramelised,

0:49:240:49:26

-and the onions.

-Yes.

0:49:260:49:28

Now we are going to slice the lamb.

0:49:280:49:30

Ooh, I can't wait to see inside.

0:49:300:49:32

So how should this be cooked inside?

0:49:320:49:34

-Medium-rare.

-Medium-rare.

0:49:340:49:36

So a bit pink still?

0:49:360:49:37

-Absolutely.

-OK.

-Huh? Look at that.

0:49:370:49:40

-Oh! Perfection!

-Happy days, my friend.

-Happy days.

-Happy days.

0:49:420:49:46

-Happy lamb days!

-Happy lamb...

0:49:460:49:47

That looks absolutely delicious.

0:49:490:49:52

Now, how long did you cook that in the oven for?

0:49:520:49:54

Eight minutes in the oven, this one.

0:49:540:49:56

So you pan-fried it gently for a couple of -

0:49:560:49:59

-well, four minutes each side.

-Four minutes.

0:49:590:50:01

-And then into the oven for about eight minutes?

-Mm-hm.

0:50:010:50:04

-What temperature was that on?

-200.

-200.

0:50:040:50:07

Now we are going to put the tomatoes...

0:50:070:50:10

Not much, just a couple.

0:50:140:50:16

-Yeah.

-Like that.

0:50:160:50:17

-Simple.

-Oh!

0:50:170:50:18

-Just one more.

-Yeah.

-Now...

0:50:200:50:22

..a little bit...

0:50:240:50:25

-..salt.

-Oh, do you want any more herbs? Are you good?

0:50:260:50:28

Yeah, I'm going to put some thyme there.

0:50:280:50:31

So, fresh thyme.

0:50:340:50:35

Fresh, because the thing, when coming to the table,

0:50:350:50:38

-you smell the fresh herbs.

-Yeah, and for the colour,

0:50:380:50:40

because that just finishes it off beautifully, a bit of green.

0:50:400:50:43

And some olive oil.

0:50:430:50:45

The colours... The colours of Spain!

0:50:450:50:47

More oil, yes!

0:50:480:50:50

Yes, darling, yes.

0:50:500:50:52

-Look at that.

-Great. So remind us, what's that dish called again?

0:50:520:50:56

It's a grilled neck of lamb with oven potatoes and roast tomatoes.

0:50:560:51:01

Mmm, beautiful.

0:51:010:51:03

-Ooh, this is a real treat.

-Yeah, looks it.

-Do you like lamb?

0:51:090:51:14

I love lamb, it's my favourite food to eat.

0:51:140:51:16

But I only really get to eat it when I go to a restaurant,

0:51:160:51:20

because my wife's vegetarian,

0:51:200:51:22

so we don't really eat red meat indoors.

0:51:220:51:25

-Let's taste.

-Taste, please.

0:51:250:51:27

Look how well it's cooked. I love that, so good.

0:51:280:51:31

-I'm going to try...

-Beautiful, looks lovely.

0:51:330:51:35

-You like it?

-Wonderful.

0:51:350:51:36

Don't you think this is a new cut for everyone to try?

0:51:360:51:39

-That's really delicious.

-So much flavour there.

0:51:390:51:42

Do you cook a lot of lamb neck?

0:51:420:51:43

Yeah, we do. We do use a lot of lamb neck, yeah.

0:51:430:51:46

And I love the little bit of olive oil on top as well,

0:51:460:51:49

-to finish it off.

-We have to finish with the olive oil,

0:51:490:51:52

-bring all the flavours together.

-It's very Spanish.

-Oh, yeah.

-Wow!

0:51:520:51:55

I could eat that all day.

0:51:550:51:57

Right, let's go back to South London

0:51:570:51:59

to see if Olly has managed to find something good

0:51:590:52:01

to go with Jose's lovely lamb.

0:52:010:52:03

Sure that he will.

0:52:030:52:05

With Jose's luscious lamb, a cracking all-round combination

0:52:180:52:22

is a Corbieres from France, such as this Domaine de Villemajou.

0:52:220:52:26

It acts like an amplifier for the magical meaty flavours.

0:52:260:52:30

But the soul of this dish is, of course, Spanish,

0:52:300:52:32

so I'm selecting a cracking local combination,

0:52:320:52:35

and a Gold Medal winning wine.

0:52:350:52:37

This is Definition Vina Majestica Rioja Reserva - liquid victory!

0:52:370:52:42

This wine comes from Rioja in northern Spain,

0:52:430:52:46

a region that's united by the Ebro River,

0:52:460:52:49

but divided into cooler Alavesa and Alta

0:52:490:52:52

up towards the Atlantic

0:52:520:52:53

and warmer Baja down towards the Mediterranean.

0:52:530:52:56

They're places that just give different nuances to the grapes,

0:52:560:53:00

perfect for winemakers to blend.

0:53:000:53:02

The headline grape is Tempranillo, which means "ripens early",

0:53:020:53:06

and thanks to Rioja's signature technique of ageing in oak barrels,

0:53:060:53:09

it gets this wonderfully mellow aspect that is spot-on with lamb.

0:53:090:53:13

Oh, that's deep.

0:53:170:53:18

That is the soul of Barry White in a bottle!

0:53:180:53:21

The lamb itself has that soft mellow character,

0:53:210:53:24

and it's the seasoning in oak barrels

0:53:240:53:26

that makes Rioja such a brilliant combination.

0:53:260:53:29

The tomatoes have sweetness and acidity,

0:53:290:53:32

and there's a little jot of Mazuelo in here,

0:53:320:53:34

another grape that amplifies the spectrum of flavours

0:53:340:53:37

for a similar resonance.

0:53:370:53:38

And finally those earthy sweet potatoes,

0:53:380:53:40

they couldn't be better suited to the signature spicy tang

0:53:400:53:44

of a rocking Rioja Reserva like this one.

0:53:440:53:47

Jose, here's to your lovely lamb! Cheers!

0:53:470:53:51

-Mm!

-Salud, hermano.

-What do we think?

0:53:530:53:55

-Are you picking up that jot of Mazuelo grape?

-Yeah, Tempranillo.

0:53:550:53:58

-You are?

-It's amazing, it's amazing,

0:53:580:54:01

because Tempranillo, the Rioja,

0:54:010:54:03

this grape goes so well, always, with lamb.

0:54:030:54:06

-That goes well with everything!

-Oh, yeah, that is true.

-I agree!

0:54:060:54:10

-Nice glass of Rioja, and that's it.

-It's my favourite Spanish wine.

0:54:100:54:13

Some fish and chips would go nicely with this as well.

0:54:130:54:16

Well, to be fair...

0:54:160:54:17

With a white Rioja, for sure!

0:54:170:54:19

-Yeah, absolutely.

-Oh, I'd do it with red!

0:54:190:54:21

Er, let's get a taste of Britain

0:54:220:54:24

from Brian Turner and Janet Street-Porter.

0:54:240:54:27

They're in Devon today, and whilst Brian is off in search of food,

0:54:270:54:30

Janet is getting a quick history lesson.

0:54:300:54:32

Devon may be a Mecca for seafood lovers from all over the world,

0:54:400:54:43

but it's also heaven for history buffs like me.

0:54:430:54:48

Totnes is a market town perched on the River Dart

0:54:480:54:51

in the South Devon Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.

0:54:510:54:55

It has a rich history dating all the way back to 907 AD.

0:54:550:55:00

It's home to a famous Norman castle,

0:55:000:55:03

and guide Win Scutt has kindly agreed to give me a tour.

0:55:030:55:07

-Come and have a look at this wonderful castle.

-Right.

0:55:070:55:10

This dates to the sort of 1200s, really.

0:55:120:55:14

-So this was built by the Normans.

-The Normans, exactly.

0:55:140:55:17

-Was it to frighten the local Anglo-Saxons?

-Yeah.

0:55:170:55:20

Well, they built about 1,000

0:55:220:55:24

of these motte-and-baileys around England.

0:55:240:55:26

It's just beautifully preserved.

0:55:260:55:28

So you've got a big, tall, flat mound, the motte...

0:55:280:55:31

-Yes.

-..and on the top of this was a tower,

0:55:310:55:33

and surrounding that was a large wooden wall,

0:55:330:55:36

so it was really defensive.

0:55:360:55:38

-So it replaced a hillfort?

-Well...

0:55:380:55:40

What would have been on this hill before?

0:55:400:55:42

Well, just sort of out that way towards the river

0:55:420:55:45

is a wonderful Saxon town

0:55:450:55:46

which was started in the early 11th century,

0:55:460:55:49

a really important one.

0:55:490:55:50

I'll take you round over there.

0:55:500:55:52

So this really was the stronghold.

0:55:530:55:55

But this isn't where people lived,

0:55:550:55:56

this is where they would have kept the swords and the shields

0:55:560:55:59

and everything like that, and also the treasure.

0:55:590:56:01

You know, if they've got any valuables, they'd keep them up here.

0:56:010:56:04

-So if they thought that Totnes was under attack...

-Yeah.

0:56:040:56:06

..everything valuable in the town was piled into here.

0:56:060:56:09

And I think they'd probably have kept stores in here just in case.

0:56:090:56:12

You know, you'd have, erm,

0:56:120:56:13

what would be the equivalent of your tins of peaches

0:56:130:56:16

or something here, you know.

0:56:160:56:17

What a fantastic view of the River Dart.

0:56:210:56:23

Yeah, and in front of it, all these lovely grey slate roofs.

0:56:230:56:26

This is the town that belongs to the sort of 1500s, 1600s,

0:56:260:56:29

but it's built on top of the early Medieval town

0:56:290:56:32

and that lovely Saxon town.

0:56:320:56:34

This was a really important Saxon town in the 1000s.

0:56:340:56:37

So before William The Conqueror conquered in 1066,

0:56:370:56:41

this was already a bustling town,

0:56:410:56:43

commanding that sort of crossing point of the River Dart.

0:56:430:56:46

And this is where the market was,

0:56:460:56:48

there was wealth coming in from the fields, presumably sheep and wool.

0:56:480:56:51

So, a fantastically important place, in fact, by the time of Doomsday,

0:56:510:56:55

this was the second most important town in Devon after Exeter.

0:56:550:56:59

While Janet soaks up some local history,

0:57:100:57:12

I'm still trying to pin down a taste of this region.

0:57:120:57:17

Someone who embraces Dartmouth's abundant fresh seafood supply

0:57:170:57:20

is award-winning chef and fishmonger Mitch Tonks.

0:57:200:57:24

Good to be here. What are you going to cook for us?

0:57:240:57:26

Well, I've got a cracking bit of local hake,

0:57:260:57:28

and I'm going to cook it in a very typical Basque style,

0:57:280:57:31

with some garlic, some sweet vinegar, some smoked peppers

0:57:310:57:33

and a bit of sauce Romesco. It's lovely.

0:57:330:57:36

So I'm just going to get a little bit of colour on the skin,

0:57:360:57:38

and then I'm going to turn the fish over and put it in the oven.

0:57:380:57:41

I think all these kind of lovely fillets of fish

0:57:410:57:43

just need a nice bit of all-round heat in the oven to finish them off,

0:57:430:57:46

except if you've got something really thin.

0:57:460:57:48

That's a lovely colour, is that.

0:57:500:57:52

And then that in. There we go. Sorry, Brian.

0:57:520:57:55

I take it you're the kind of guy that likes to cook fish pink,

0:57:550:57:58

-dare I say it.

-Yeah, I think the thing is, with certain fish,

0:57:580:58:01

you need to get them just right.

0:58:010:58:03

I think there's a way that they just need to be flaking apart,

0:58:030:58:06

you just want all that lovely membrane between the flakes

0:58:060:58:09

to have just melted so the fish is flaking.

0:58:090:58:11

But, for me, all the best fish I've ever eaten in my life

0:58:110:58:13

has been all around the Mediterranean, round the shores

0:58:130:58:16

of southern France, Italy, where it's all about simplicity.

0:58:160:58:19

That's the secret - A, it's simply treated, and B, it is ultra-fresh.

0:58:190:58:23

Absolutely, and that's what you want to taste. You want to taste the sea.

0:58:230:58:27

I don't want to taste any kind of overpowering ingredients.

0:58:270:58:30

Well, this sauce, right - you know, lots of olive oil,

0:58:300:58:32

we'll be using a really good extra-virgin olive oil.

0:58:320:58:35

Would you think of using rapeseed oil,

0:58:350:58:37

cos that's very fashionable these days in the UK?

0:58:370:58:39

I think it's fashionable and I think the flavour's OK,

0:58:390:58:41

but you can't cook without olive oil, in my opinion.

0:58:410:58:43

I love olive oil. And then what I've got here is some sliced garlic,

0:58:430:58:47

nice and thin.

0:58:470:58:48

I want the temperature quite low,

0:58:480:58:50

cos this is a dish where you want the garlic,

0:58:500:58:52

you don't want it to fry - there's a difference between fried garlic

0:58:520:58:56

and garlic that's just, I call it, "being encouraged."

0:58:560:58:59

Then I've got some of these Nora and Chiaroscuro peppers,

0:58:590:59:02

which have been smoked over wood,

0:59:020:59:03

and they give it a really smoky richness, really good.

0:59:030:59:07

They're not fiery, they're not hot,

0:59:070:59:08

but they've got this real depth to the sauce, which is so good.

0:59:080:59:11

So what do we do about educating the British public to enjoy fish?

0:59:110:59:15

You've started an academy, I believe.

0:59:150:59:18

Yep, I was working with a college one day, and I just noticed

0:59:180:59:21

all this wonderful talent cooking the curriculum,

0:59:210:59:23

but they weren't using a lot of our local fish,

0:59:230:59:25

and so I though it'd be good for them to get some practical skills,

0:59:250:59:28

understand a bit about our seafood,

0:59:280:59:30

and then when they go off into jobs,

0:59:300:59:31

they've got something really tangible.

0:59:310:59:33

For me, if you've got a restaurant in this area,

0:59:330:59:35

the whole south-west peninsula, this is the best fish in the world,

0:59:350:59:38

it's what we should be doing.

0:59:380:59:39

I suspect that's just about ready now, Chef.

0:59:390:59:41

So I just thought I'd take the skin off,

0:59:440:59:47

cos I love that moistness of that hake -

0:59:470:59:49

look at it, it just looks beautiful.

0:59:490:59:51

It's perfect, and I totally agree with you

0:59:510:59:53

that the moisture in there suddenly, and the pure whiteness of it...

0:59:530:59:56

It just comes out, doesn't it? So we've got our garlic, our peppers...

0:59:560:59:59

-Yep.

-I've got a little parsley in there.

0:59:591:00:02

Just give that a quick fry. So we've got some temperature in there.

1:00:041:00:08

Very good vinegar made from cava grapes. Slightly sweet.

1:00:081:00:11

And that goes in.

1:00:131:00:15

It's not hugely acidic and then over the top...

1:00:151:00:18

Perfect.

1:00:231:00:24

And then just a little bit of the sauce romesco on the side,

1:00:241:00:26

which is roasted almonds, roasted peppers, roasted onions,

1:00:261:00:29

sweet paprika, smoked paprika, garlic,

1:00:291:00:32

a little vinegar, and there you have a bit of local hake.

1:00:321:00:35

Just the type of thing you'd eat while you're wandering through

1:00:351:00:38

San Sebastian - your peppers, your garlic, a little bit of vinegar,

1:00:381:00:41

your sauce romesco. Top.

1:00:411:00:42

Delicious.

1:00:421:00:44

Hake is one of my favourite fish,

1:00:451:00:47

so I can't wait to taste Mitch's version.

1:00:471:00:50

Here's some of our local hake cooked in a very traditional Spanish style

1:00:501:00:54

with sauce romesco. Enjoy.

1:00:541:00:55

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you, Mitch.

1:00:551:00:57

I do like it, but it's quite hard to get here.

1:00:571:01:00

These peppers - you can smell the peppers and garlic.

1:01:001:01:03

So simple, done a great job.

1:01:031:01:04

-Mm!

-It's landed locally, it doesn't have to travel anywhere.

1:01:081:01:13

And he's treated it so simply, he hasn't masked it up with anything.

1:01:131:01:17

Mm!

1:01:171:01:19

Thank you, Brian. Right.

1:01:231:01:25

It's time for our chefs to face our new challenge and it's the

1:01:251:01:28

Saturday Kitchen version of spin the bottle.

1:01:281:01:31

Each chef has been given the same main ingredient,

1:01:311:01:34

-which today...are these prawns.

-Gorgeous.

1:01:341:01:39

On the table are four trays

1:01:391:01:40

containing a selection of other things

1:01:401:01:43

that naturally go well together.

1:01:431:01:45

So you have yellow, South East Asian,

1:01:451:01:48

you're got pineapples, bok choy, sweet chilli sauce.

1:01:481:01:53

-Red, here, Spanish, maybe you'll get that one.

-Hopefully.

1:01:531:01:56

Potatoes, breadcrumbs, almonds and whatnot.

1:01:561:02:00

Over here we have South-Asian, so Sri Lankan or Indian -

1:02:001:02:04

turmeric, garam masala, cumin, spinach, cooked potato,

1:02:041:02:08

-rice and some coconut milk.

-Nice.

1:02:081:02:11

And here, on the green, we have Italian -

1:02:111:02:14

-sun-dried tomatoes, mozzarella, some dough.

-I like that.

1:02:141:02:17

Tomatoes and basil.

1:02:171:02:20

In turn, the chefs will spin our wine bottle to decide which tray

1:02:201:02:24

they end up with and then they will both have to construct

1:02:241:02:28

-a delicious and tasty plate of food for Martin to try.

-Great.

1:02:281:02:31

It sounds good to me. I'm in win-win, aren't I, really?

1:02:311:02:34

There is a prize.

1:02:341:02:36

The Saturday Kitchen golden bottle for the dish that Martin

1:02:361:02:41

thinks is best. Is it full? You'll have to find out if you win.

1:02:411:02:47

-I never thought I'd say this on TV, but, Galton...

-Yeah.

1:02:471:02:50

..would you like to spin the bottle?

1:02:501:02:52

I have to say this brings back memories.

1:02:521:02:54

I used to have a lot of fun with this game.

1:02:541:02:57

-Oh! Great. OK.

-OK.

-OK.

1:02:581:03:03

So we've got the Southeast Asian food here, all these ingredients.

1:03:031:03:06

-What's that? What is that?

-Pea aubergines.

1:03:061:03:09

Jose, let's see what you're going to get. Jose, spin the bottle.

1:03:091:03:13

The bottle.

1:03:131:03:14

-Italy.

-Oh!

1:03:171:03:18

We've got green here, so Italy.

1:03:181:03:20

Italian food there for your to cook with your prawns.

1:03:201:03:24

Right, grab your ingredients and let's go.

1:03:241:03:26

And I've got an assortment of pans out,

1:03:261:03:29

we didn't know what you were going to get, so we've got pans with

1:03:291:03:32

hot water, saute pans, bigger pans, equipment there. OK.

1:03:321:03:35

-Have you got any ideas of what you're going to cook yet?

-Yes.

1:03:351:03:38

-Tempura.

-So you've got the deep fat fryer.

1:03:381:03:42

I mean, everything is set up for you to cook anything

1:03:421:03:45

and any ingredients that you don't use, just let me know

1:03:451:03:48

and I'll take them away, you don't have to use all of them, OK?

1:03:481:03:51

Hot pan coming through.

1:03:511:03:53

We are going to start cooking, then.

1:03:551:03:57

-OK, anything else?

-Erm...I'm not going to use any radicchio neither.

1:04:001:04:06

Olive oil.

1:04:061:04:08

OK, just give me a shout, anything you want taken away, because it's

1:04:081:04:12

very crowded with all your ingredients.

1:04:121:04:14

-Yeah, you can take away everything from here, please.

-OK.

-OK.

1:04:141:04:17

-That garlic looks fantastic, doesn't it?

-Love it!

-Nice and fat.

1:04:171:04:21

What is life without garlic, my friend?

1:04:211:04:23

-Talk me through your tempura batter.

-Right, tempura batter.

1:04:231:04:26

Equal quantities cornflour, plain flour, sparkling water,

1:04:261:04:29

add it at the last minute, don't mix it too much.

1:04:291:04:32

Because you want it kind of lumpy, don't you?

1:04:321:04:35

-Absolutely.

-And the sparkling water adds a lightness to the batter.

1:04:351:04:39

-It's a light, crispy batter.

-OK. So that was quick, that's made.

1:04:391:04:43

-What are you doing here?

-I presume this is a...

-A green mango.

1:04:441:04:47

A green mango.

1:04:471:04:51

-It's matching your jumper, whatever it is.

-Yeah.

-OK.

1:04:511:04:55

And over here in the Italian corner. What are you doing?

1:04:551:04:59

I'm going to saute some vegetables, I'm going to do a kind of pisto.

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Like a ratatouille?

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Normally it's a very slow cook,

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-but I don't think we have time today.

-OK.

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Like that. Lovely, lovely.

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Normally you'd use fresh tomatoes, but this one just looks so yummy.

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In here you've got your garlic, your green mango,

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you're just cutting up some pineapple.

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-Some sweet and sour, really.

-Pineapple. Nice and sweet. Yeah.

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-OK.

-To be honest with you,

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I'm winging it because I'm not really sure what I'm doing.

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All right, I won't ask too many questions.

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-If you want me to help at all, I'm here to do small tasks.

-I'm fine.

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-I need one of those pans, please.

-What would you like?

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-One of those pans there.

-You want it over here?

-Yes, please. OK.

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Not too hot, medium heat. I don't know how this is going to look.

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Martin, if you could choose one of those trays,

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which one would you have chosen?

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I think I would have gone for most probably the Indian one.

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Mm! Yum!

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We cook a lot of Indian at home and kind of that's the one that

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always appeals to me, but also I like the Italian.

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I think you've got a really difficult job on the end.

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-So do I, Martin. Thanks for that.

-Snippy snap. Snap, snap.

-How long?

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You got about four minutes, so let's... Speedy. Speedy, speedy.

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Speed it up.

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-A little tomato.

-What have you just put in there?

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I presume that one was vinegar. I think this is soy sauce.

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-Making a dipping sauce.

-So this is your ratatouille.

-Pisto, please.

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-Pisto.

-Pisto.

-OK. You've got sun-dried tomatoes in there.

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What else? What's happening next?

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-Some tomatoes, I'm going to put some wine to cook off, like that.

-OK.

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And now I'm going to chop... Ooh, I'm making a mess here!

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-Obviously, remember, you've both got to use your prawns.

-Oh, yeah.

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A little bit more garlic.

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-Your prawns are here.

-Some olive oil.

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Anything you want me to take away from here, because you've got

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-a lot going on?

-Yes.

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The only thing I'm going to use is this one and the prawns, of course,

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-and some of this.

-Don't need this?

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-No. And some chilli.

-Chilli flakes.

-Yeah.

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So let's move the rest out of the way. If I give you that...that.

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So you're not going to make a pizza, then?

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I was looking forward to a pizza.

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Pizza was very, you know what I mean, very obvious thing to do.

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I'm going to clean up a little bit.

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Oh, I hate to waste food, but what can we do?

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Well, we can use that for a stew.

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-It's not going to go to waste.

-Like this. I'm going to put some basil.

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-OK.

-I love it.

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-How are you doing, Jose?

-Huh?

-How are you doing?

-Very nice.

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-What else? What else?

-What are you like cooking at home, then?

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-I'm a mess cooking at home.

-Spread it all out.

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Then again, you've got the choice,

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either my wife cooks, where everything goes in one of

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those slow, lovely things which are good for warming your bottom on,

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or doing your ironing on, no good for your cooking.

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-Anyone want this butter?

-No.

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And then some artichoke.

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The artichokes are going in.

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So you're doing some prawns with garlic and artichoke and then,

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-does this get mixed together at the end?

-Exactly.

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Not mixed, but we'll see how it's going to be,

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I really don't know yet.

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Galton, you're doing your tempura batter.

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You've got your cornflour and flour in equal parts and you've just

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-mixed it very lightly, so that it's still lumpy.

-Yeah. Exactly that.

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-Behind, behind, oh!

-I'm just going to stand very small.

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Er...right. Where am I?

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-Now he's got his basil in my oil!

-Oh! Sneaky!

-It's a disaster!

-Sneaky!

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-Some chilli.

-You don't want this.

-No, I don't want that.

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-You don't want this.

-No, no cheese.

-No cheese.

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-You don't want the cheese, you don't want the fennel.

-No.

-Chicory.

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-And you don't want...

-We put salt. A little bit more salt there.

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-You don't want the Parmesan?

-You know what? For a pizza...

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-You can eat that, if you want. Dig in.

-I will.

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Jose, go ahead and plate up if you're ready.

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-I can only eat one at a time, so let's get one first.

-Exactly.

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Martin's waiting. As is the golden bottle.

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-I love basil.

-I love it.

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I've never had it like this.

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So if you were making this, if you had this tray of ingredients,

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-the one that Jose had, would you have made something similar?

-No.

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I would say, "Where's my pizza?"

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Mine would be a little bit more basic.

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-Let's try Jose's dish.

-Yeah, let's try it.

-Cutlery for you.

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I really like what Jose's done, because he's come round it

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from a different way, you know, not the pizza, because when I saw

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the tray, I just saw pizza and Italian.

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I think pisto, all of those, you know, one of the summer vegetables

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go so well together, aubergine,

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and then, I just love artichoke and prawns together.

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-Really nice.

-It's just something I love. Love it, love it, love it.

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What would you like to call this dish?

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We're going to call it pisto with sauteed prawns and artichoke.

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-Mm!

-And some basil.

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I have to say, it's very good, isn't it?

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The sun-dried tomatoes, I know you would've used proper tomatoes

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in there, fresh ones, but sun-dried really works well.

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The thing is, the sweetness is what makes everything there.

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-That is perfect.

-Good.

-So...

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-That looks fantastic.

-Looks yummy.

-Yeah.

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Again, very summery, that pale yellow and the green.

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Do you need any more prawns? No.

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No, I'm done with prawns. Thank you.

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Prawns, bane of my life.

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But hey.

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-Right.

-Perfect. A little bit of the dipping sauce.

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I'll have them out.

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Any help, my friend?

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-Just a really light batter over the prawns, isn't it?

-Yes.

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-The idea is you keep them nice and crisp...

-Yeah.

-..on the outside.

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-And the cornflour helps make them lighter.

-Yeah.

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-Rather than just using all plain flour.

-Absolutely. Absolutely.

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Absolutely right. A few prawns.

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That's a beautiful improvised dish.

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-A little bit of the...

-The sauce.

-I'd better taste it.

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Have you got a title for this dish?

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-Erm...

-Not yet.

-No, Galton winging it.

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-Galton winging a Thai dish.

-Lovely.

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You've got your soy sauce, sweet chilli sauce, and sesame.

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-This has got a bit of a kick to it.

-Nice.

-I quite like that.

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-I like having a kick in Asian food.

-I'm just getting over the last kick.

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And there it is. So tempura prawns with noodles,

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-pineapple, pawpaw.

-Here you go.

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-Here we go, let's have a look.

-Here's your second dish.

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Remember, decide between the two,

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it's your job to choose who's going to win the golden bottle.

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The golden bottle. Hopefully it's full and we can drink.

1:12:221:12:26

-That better be full.

-It's really nice. Really good.

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-I'm going to try a prawn now.

-I'm going to have half a prawn.

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It's got lots of chilli in.

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-Yeah, I put chilli and spring onion into the batter.

-Really good.

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-Is it all right?

-Mm!

-So lovely.

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So is it going to be Galton's South East Asian inspired

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prawn dish or Jose's pisto prawns? What do you think?

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Well, in reality, I would call it a draw, but because I know we

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have to have a winner, I'm going to go with Jose.

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-Jose!

-Maybe because I stood here and I saw less panic.

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Congratulations, Jose.

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-Jose wins the golden bottle.

-Well done.

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Both of them were absolutely delicious though, I have to say.

1:13:131:13:16

Yeah, really good.

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So, will Martin get food heaven, curry in the form of

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chicken tikka masala, or food hell, Asian pulled pork in buns?

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We're going to let fate decide, but first, here's

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a recipe from James Martin.

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He's celebrating a great British ingredient today, watercress.

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Round where I live in Hampshire, grow some amazing ingredients

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that have been around so long they might also be considered retro.

1:13:431:13:48

Watercress has been part of the British diet for hundreds of years,

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but its distinct peppery flavour, I'm glad to say,

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is making a bit of a resurgence.

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It's the water conditions in this corner of Hampshire that are

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perfect for growing this little aquatic herb and it's thanks

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to watercress farmers like Tom Amery that this UK staple

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has become even more popular.

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This area is known as the watercress capital of the UK.

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It's been grown here now for over 120 years.

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Watercress has become the new rocket you could say.

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Rocket became very popular and well-known because of its strong flavour.

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Watercress also has that.

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It's the mustard oils that are found within the watercress

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when you're chewing it. It's actually a natural defence

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for the insects that could come and obviously live off the crop.

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The nutritional content for watercress is quite incredible.

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Gram for gram, it contains more vitamin C than oranges,

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more calcium than milk,

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and iron in large quantities.

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Watercress is naturally known for being a superfood now.

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Historically, 100-120 years ago,

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they called it a cleanser of the blood.

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It essentially still is - when you're chewing it,

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it releases a chemical compound

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which is very specific to this type of plant, which is a Crucifera,

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and that product really runs through your bloodstream

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and has incredible properties on all parts of your body.

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As it's only up the road, Tom's very kindly brought some of his

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freshly picked crop for me to cook with.

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Health benefits aside, for me it's always been the watercress's

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unique flavour that we should be celebrating.

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It's great to see you.

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We've got this fantastic watercress that you've produced.

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-Was this cut this morning, then?

-It was, it's fresh today.

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It's the best way to have watercress.

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You've got to eat it fresh and keep it green, that's the key part.

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We better not hang about, then.

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Perhaps the simplest prep-now-eat-later dish is

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the humble sandwich.

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But there's certainly nothing humble

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about my giant salmon and watercress pan bagna.

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Pop one of these in your rucksack

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and you've got the perfect picnic dish for up to a dozen of you.

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The first thing I'll do is get on and put our salmon in the oven,

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so for this I'm going to use a whole side of salmon.

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We're going to poach this with some lemon.

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It's kind of weird, inviting you here

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and just cooking you a sandwich, but this is a bit of a posh sandwich.

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It's not a small sandwich, I don't think.

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No, it's a decent-sized sandwich, Tom. A bit of salt, like that.

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Chuck in a few whole peppercorns, then half-fill the tray with water

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and place in a preheated oven at 200 degrees C for about ten minutes.

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The main ingredient for this sandwich will be this

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delicious watercress pesto.

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It's really simple to make - all you have to do is blend

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a few generous handfuls of watercress with some garlic,

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toasted pine nuts, salt and a generous glug of good olive oil.

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Is there any part of the year

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where you can't actually produce watercress?

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We tend to harvest British watercress from April

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right the way through to November,

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so it's a long season for British farming.

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-Good for you, though?

-It's great.

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Right, we're just going to make a little pesto, really.

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What you do is just blitz this.

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You end up with an amazing colour.

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You do need plenty for this, cos I've got a decent-sized loaf,

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so don't be frightened to put in loads and loads of pesto.

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It's entirely up to you what goes into this sandwich,

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but the whole point of this,

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and this is why you need a decent sort of loaf,

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-this is why it's enough for me and you here, Tom.

-I'm happy with that.

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You need a decent sort of piece of bread,

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but you need to hollow it out.

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The best way to do that, really,

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is think about how you're going to fill it first of all.

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Don't make the hole too big.

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Once you remove the lid,

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start hollowing out the loaf for your filling.

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I'm going to get this done this weekend.

1:17:431:17:44

-You're going to make this?

-Yeah, definitely.

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Basically, we're going to chargrill the courgettes now.

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The salmon's out. We just allow that to cool slightly

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and that's the key to this.

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I mean, using salmon, of course, it goes great with watercress,

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but you can use chicken, whatever you want, really.

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Then it's entirely up to you how you kind of layer this up.

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I'm going to start my sandwich with a good dollop of watercress pesto,

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followed by some thinly sliced raw red onions...

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..flakes of the poached salmon...

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..and then some of these sweet grilled Spanish red peppers.

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I love these. I don't know if you've ever tried these before.

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These are Spanish peppers.

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-They're not hot, they're not spicy.

-They're sweet.

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They're wood-roasted, they're absolutely delicious

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and they come in jars.

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We're just going to pop in even more of this.

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Every time you do it, of course,

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a good amount of seasoning.

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Black pepper and a bit of salt.

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Off you go and you've got some of this amazing sort of pesto.

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The good thing about the watercress

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is the pepperiness from it as well, which will give this a real kick.

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It's taken a whole side, has this,

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-so it's good enough for two to three people.

-Yeah.

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We call this a canape up in Yorkshire, Tom.

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Once you get to the top, each layer you press down,

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more of this pesto. Don't be frightened to use plenty of this.

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Pile it all up and just pop the lid on.

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It's great, really, cos you can make this in advance.

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It'll last for a whole week

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and wrap it up in clingfilm, leave it in the fridge

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and you can take slices of it as and when you want it,

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but the best part of this is this next bit.

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This is the bit

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that makes it all worthwhile.

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Slice it all the way through.

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When you open it out,

1:19:341:19:36

-just check out this for a sandwich.

-Oh, my word. It's a work of art.

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That's a proper sandwich.

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Just look at that - you've got all the lovely layers in there as well.

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Just tastes delicious,

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then the longer you keep it in the fridge, really,

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the more easy it is to carve.

1:19:491:19:50

This will actually sort of fall apart a little bit.

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I'm going to give you a proper portion of this. Just one slice?

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I think that'll be fine.

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Right, we get to dive into this.

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I don't know where you start with something like this, but...

1:20:011:20:05

But with the salmon and the peppers and the pesto...

1:20:051:20:08

Amazing. Perfect.

1:20:081:20:10

Mmm!

1:20:111:20:13

Amazing. Well done.

1:20:131:20:14

Right, it's time to find out

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whether Martin is facing food heaven or food hell.

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So, Martin,

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your food heaven would be curry and I've got chicken tikka masala.

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And, of course, your food hell is pork and I've got

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a beautiful Asian pulled pork.

1:20:341:20:37

Yeah, that's not doing much for me, seeing it like that.

1:20:371:20:39

I know it doesn't look good now, but after eight hours of cooking,

1:20:391:20:42

-I promise you it's very good.

-OK.

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We're not live today,

1:20:451:20:46

so we're letting fate decide what Martin gets.

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On each of these spoons is either the word "heaven" or "hell,"

1:20:501:20:53

so, Martin, I'm going to put them behind my back

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and I want you to decide...

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-..which one.

-I'm going to take this one.

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Hell!

1:21:061:21:08

-Do you know what? I kind of fancied that, though.

-Yeah?

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Cos I want to try it.

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Can I ask you to get rid of that? Thank you, Martin.

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Thank you.

1:21:171:21:19

So I'm going to convert you into loving this pork.

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I'm really looking forward to it.

1:21:221:21:24

It's going to be great, for sure.

1:21:241:21:26

It was described so well on the menu

1:21:261:21:28

that I was kind of hoping it was going to be that.

1:21:281:21:32

-Right, so, if you could do the spicy slaw.

-Mm-hm.

1:21:321:21:37

I've got the cabbage there, onion, so just julienne everything,

1:21:371:21:40

-finely slice in a bowl.

-Lovely.

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Then you've got the soy sauce.

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-A tiny bit of mayonnaise, I don't like too much mayonnaise.

-Lovely.

1:21:451:21:49

You must... Don't you like pork crackling, for instance?

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-No. No, I don't really eat that.

-Don't you?!

1:21:541:21:57

I've never been a fan of pork.

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This is my thing, but how it was described today on the menu,

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I thought, "That's worth trying."

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Do you think it's just because of the way you've had it cooked?

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I think it's the way I had it cooked when I was growing up.

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My mum would cook a piece of pork, but it would come out kind of flat

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and brown-looking and nothing exciting.

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Sorry, Mum!

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You know what I mean?

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It just didn't have anything that was appealing to me.

1:22:201:22:23

Well, it's that thing about the confidence to cook it just so,

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cos I'm sure you cook your pork a little pink, right?

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Yeah, medium rare and even rare.

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-Really?

-Yeah. You must come to try, you will love it, I'm telling you.

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So many people think that it's even beef,

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-when they see the colour.

-Yeah.

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So I'm putting in some ginger, you've got some muscovado sugar.

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A chilli, five spice,

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and soy, soy sauce in a bowl.

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This is the easiest dish to make as well,

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cos you just basically chop everything up,

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mix it all together in a bowl, onto the pork

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and then leave it in the oven

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for eight hours.

1:23:011:23:02

I'm very excited about your radio show.

1:23:021:23:04

Yeah, it's going to be amazing.

1:23:041:23:06

Radio 2, every Saturday morning through the summer.

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There's no playlist out there,

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so we're choosing what we want to put on.

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-It's the way to go.

-Yeah.

1:23:121:23:14

So I'm mixing everything together

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and you just chop the ingredients really roughly,

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you don't have to do it all perfect. How's the slaw getting along?

1:23:181:23:21

-The slaw's coming along beautifully.

-Yes?

1:23:211:23:23

Chicken tikka masala is great, but you have that all the time.

1:23:251:23:28

It's nice to try different things, isn't it?

1:23:281:23:30

Actually, if I go to an Indian restaurant,

1:23:301:23:33

-I would have a dhansak or something.

-Dhansak?

-Or even a vindaloo.

1:23:331:23:36

What's your favourite curry?

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I have to say, I like the idea of a really spicy one,

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but then when I get it in front of me and taste the first mouthful...

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But spicy, you have to have fresh yoghurt with it,

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then you mix the yoghurt as you eat it and it takes the sting out of it.

1:23:471:23:51

-It doesn't really, though.

-You just get left with the flavour.

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It doesn't really take the sting out.

1:23:541:23:56

Let's be honest, if your mouth's burning,

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a bit of yoghurt's not going to...

1:23:591:24:01

No, it does if you have the yoghurt and the vindaloo at the same time

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and you kind of take a piece of each, it does.

1:24:051:24:07

-I like mango chutney.

-Yeah, I like that.

1:24:071:24:10

-I love mango chutney.

-Now I wish I had the Indian!

1:24:101:24:12

No, be... I swear, you'll be happy about this, you will be happy.

1:24:141:24:19

-If you could just toast those in there.

-Yeah, how many do you want?

1:24:201:24:24

-Four?

-Uh, two, two or three.

1:24:241:24:26

So we're just sort of creating a slow cooker environment in there.

1:24:291:24:33

I wasn't very confident the first time I used my slow cooker going out.

1:24:341:24:38

-Yeah.

-I didn't really want to leave it.

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But they're fine.

1:24:411:24:43

One more, it's going to be delicious.

1:24:451:24:47

I'll pop that in. That goes in the oven for eight hours.

1:24:471:24:51

-Wow!

-Eight long hours.

-That's a lot of energy for one meat roll

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-that's happening here.

-It's not a meat roll! That sounds awful!

1:24:571:25:01

Right, let me get another...

1:25:031:25:05

It smells absolutely beautiful.

1:25:051:25:07

You can see it's all caramelised and it's going to be so, so soft.

1:25:071:25:11

It looks amazing. It looks amazing already.

1:25:111:25:15

-Coming through.

-Look at that.

-Well, would you look at that.

1:25:151:25:18

-Wow.

-You will be happy with that.

-Yeah, I know, it looks amazing.

1:25:181:25:22

Look at that.

1:25:221:25:24

You know, you could think that a large joint of meat is not

1:25:241:25:27

for the summer, but because I'm doing it in burgers in this way,

1:25:271:25:31

-it's very summery. Look at that.

-Look at that.

1:25:311:25:34

This lasts for a very long time for the family,

1:25:341:25:36

so you'll have...you can have it in sandwiches, in salads...

1:25:361:25:39

If I went to the butcher's and asked for that, what would I ask for?

1:25:391:25:42

-Just ask for pork shoulder.

-Pork shoulder?

-Yeah, pork shoulder.

1:25:421:25:46

-Not too expensive. I've got the bone in, so nice and moist.

-Look at that.

1:25:461:25:50

Doing all my work.

1:25:501:25:52

Wow.

1:25:521:25:53

I'm going to plate up over here.

1:25:531:25:55

Would you mind mixing the mayonnaise and I'll just do the plating up?

1:25:551:26:00

Beautiful.

1:26:001:26:02

We've got these brioche buns.

1:26:021:26:03

-I'm just going to toast them so they've got a bit of crunch.

-Yeah.

1:26:031:26:07

-Nice?

-Quality control.

1:26:081:26:10

Quality control!

1:26:101:26:12

Right, you want all these in there.

1:26:121:26:14

You can put the mayonnaise in the slaw or on the bun,

1:26:171:26:22

-either way is fine.

-OK.

1:26:221:26:24

-Sesame?

-Sesame in there, and some soy.

1:26:271:26:29

Yep.

1:26:291:26:31

-Did you try some yet?

-Oh, yeah.

1:26:321:26:35

Just, like I say, quality control.

1:26:351:26:38

-Am I getting you enticed into this yet?

-Oh, absolutely.

1:26:381:26:41

I like the way you call coleslaw slaw,

1:26:411:26:43

because we're running out of time.

1:26:431:26:45

No! LAUGHTER

1:26:451:26:47

I thought that's the cleverest thing I've seen on television.

1:26:471:26:50

No, I always call it slaw.

1:26:501:26:51

So pork in there, piled.

1:26:531:26:55

OK.

1:26:571:26:58

Quality control.

1:26:591:27:02

I've got my slaw on top. Again, these beautiful colours.

1:27:021:27:05

We've got the purple, just like...

1:27:051:27:07

Actually, can I have another serving plate, please?

1:27:071:27:10

Of course you can.

1:27:101:27:11

We've got the purple, just like the potatoes we used earlier.

1:27:111:27:15

And the greens and that wonderful smell.

1:27:151:27:19

-The top of your bun.

-Yeah, can you pop some mayo on top of the bun?

1:27:191:27:24

-It looks amazing.

-OK.

1:27:241:27:27

I want a nice, clean plate to serve these on.

1:27:271:27:29

Sesame oil is such a great smell, great flavour as well.

1:27:291:27:32

I'll pop this away.

1:27:361:27:38

Lovely, thank you for your help.

1:27:391:27:41

This dish is minimal effort, very much minimal effort.

1:27:411:27:44

I'll get rid of this as well.

1:27:461:27:48

Then, yeah, just pop on top.

1:27:501:27:52

There you have it - OK, Martin, do you want to get stuck in?

1:27:521:27:55

-I'd love to.

-There's cutlery over there.

1:27:551:27:57

Oh, I don't need cutlery, do I with this?

1:27:571:28:01

I'm going to eat it the old-fashioned way.

1:28:011:28:03

Yeah, take a mighty bite, actually.

1:28:031:28:05

That does look particularly good.

1:28:071:28:10

Oh, my goodness, it's delicious.

1:28:101:28:11

-You've been converted.

-It's not your hell now, surely.

1:28:111:28:15

Mmm! That is delicious.

1:28:151:28:18

That is so good.

1:28:181:28:20

To go with this, Olly has chosen Ravenswood Lodi Zinfandel 2014,

1:28:201:28:25

around £10, widely available.

1:28:251:28:27

That is delicious.

1:28:271:28:29

Well, that's all from us today on Saturday Kitchen.

1:28:291:28:31

Thanks to Jose Pizarro, Galton Blackiston and Martin Kemp.

1:28:311:28:35

-Thank you.

-Cheers to Olly Smith for the wine choices.

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All the recipes from the show are on our website.

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Simply go to bbc.co.uk/saturdaykitchen.

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I'm handing over the reigns to the mighty Spice Men, Cyrus Todiwala

1:28:441:28:49

and Tony Singh, who will be in charge of the show next week.

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Have a great weekend and thank you for watching.

1:28:541:28:57

-Hey!

-Cheers.

-Bye for now.

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