11/12/2011 Something for the Weekend

Good morning. Welcome to Sundays morning. We are with you live, for

the next 90 minutes and joining us is the co-writer of Gavin & Stacey,

a hugely successful actress and now TV chat show host, Ruth Jones.

as if that wasn't enough, we have the musicianitionans that might

just have created the best Christmas album of the decade. Tom

Smith and Andy Burrows. And we pack presents and look forward to the

best of next week's telly. This is something for the weekend.

Good mortgage and welcome to the programme. America Ferrera was due

to be on the show this morning, but unfortunately she is unwell. Get

well soon. The whole of America! Like Barack Obama, get well soon,

America. Tom and Andy, I was given their

album about two months ago, and I've told them this,, "Honestly, a

Christmas album," but I stuck it on. I promise you, I've not stopped

listening to it. It's quite a different album, isn't it. It's

really good, it's......I'm trying to think of the word, because

Christmas songs are jolly and uplifting; It's not really a

Christmas album, it's for people who are really into their bands and

more serious. It's really well- written. But it sums it up. When

you sit there you feel Christmassy. What is your favourite song of

Christmas. Mine is the Poges. so girlie I like a bit of Maria.

All I Want For Christmas. Mine is East 17. Now I didn't have you

coming out with that one. But it doesn't having anything to do with

Christmas. Can you sing a bit. only thing to do with Christmas was

they wore white pouffe jackets and there was snow in the background.

was only joking when you said sing. The best Christmas album is Dean

Martin. Don't you just love all Christmas songs. I do, until Boxing

Day, and then I hate them. Forget Frank, stick Dean on. You can't say

that. I just said it, it's true. I'm sure the viewers will agree. I

tell you what, tell us what the best Christmas song ever is. I do

genuinely love that East 17 song, I really do.

There's the address. Now, Strictly last night. Yes. I

actually missed it last night, so I'm very upset about, so you guys

are going to have to fill me in. Simon, you watched it. What

happened? Charlesee, all tens. She was overjoyed. It's been going a

long time. I was upset Robbie Savage was out. I think I'm going

team Donovan. I think the right people are in the final. I think

the strongest dancers are in the final. No, Robbie Savage should be

there. No, in fall fairness he did great, but the strongest dancers

are there and that's how it should be. You'll know them from lazor

light and the Editors, but now Tom Smith and Andy Burrows have gone

solo and got together. I want to know why two people like that got

together to do Christmas. It was probably over a drink. And they

forgot it the next day. We had the Christmas discussion the other day.

Like the Olympic catering. I've been on the phone to Seb Coe.

to try and get a pitch? Yes, he said it was sorted.

There are rumours of Gavin & Stacey the musical, and Ruth will be on

the programme to tell us how she got her new slime-line figure.

And if you want to chat with us, e- mail us or tweet us.

And confirm that Deano is better that Frank!

Simon, what are you doing? It is nearly Christmas, so we're going to

do some Christmassy things, and eat like celebrities. As you know, we

on our side of the road only like to eat small food. I like big food,

but Louise and Jamie party with small food. You've got to have your

little finger out for all of these. We start with mini haggis bargies,

with a whisky dipping sauce. The main course is mini spicey turkey

prawn pot pies. Why are we doing mini everything? Because we're

celebrities. But when you do mini stuff you just eat more. Because

you don't just have one, you have four! You're clearly not a shreebty.

Clearly not. - celebrity.

So how did you lose all the weight? Did you just cut down on the

proportions? The only thing that isn't mini, but we'll cut small

slices we're doing a chocolate and cranberry roulade. Then we're back

on with the best celebrity thing to eight vol-au-vents. Sellairback

vol-au-vents. It's like we're doing party food -- -- celeriac vol-au-

And it's Winter Wipeout, where it's two for one down at granny's house.

Everyone's after progression in Rev. You'd have written me a glowing

reference, as I'm sure you will. And the ups and downs of a 30-year-

And the ups and downs of a 30-year- old hippy.

OK, Christmas Day is two weeks today. Are you sorted, organised?

No! Is it on a Sunday? Is it on a Sunday this year? Wayne, what are

you making? Are you working Christmas Day. I have got a cracker

of a Christmas Day. Rum, pork and cognac, with Christmas mincemeat.

That's what's great about Christmas, you can eat mince pies and

Christmas cake and you've got a reason to do it. Have you got your

tree up yet? I bought the tree yesterday and I'll decorate it

today. I bought mine, but it's still wrapped up. Is it wooden?

it's a real one. You see if I had got a wooden one, I could have just

got it out. That's boring. We have a dog this year, so we don't know

how the dog will react. Do you do all one colour for yours? I do the

one in the hall. She's got two! Because I let the kids have one.

They decorate it themselves and it's slightly messy, so I like to

do one that I decorate, a proper one! What colours have you done?

The kids' one is multi-coloured and mine is silver, gold and white.

What about you? It's got to be red and white. Mine too! We're so

predictable. So the first of our mini eating like a celebrity dish

of the day are the mini bargies. And we need a dipping sauce, and we

have kumquats. They are very, very sharp. Are they a baby sats yumia?

Kind of. The haggis we've cooked already and

there onions and chilli. Tip the onions into there, and finely chop

a bit of that and I'll slice the garlic. And then we want to crumble

some of the garlic. The thing with bargies, a basic onion bargey is

what we're doing now. So the onion and a little bit of garlic and

chilli. Is that too much? We'll have all of it. Tip half of that in

the gram flour, which is made from chick peas. And it comes together

very, very quickly. We're looking for the consisty of a thick double

cream, basically. Next, Tim I need about a third of that haggis and

crumble it into the onions. It's all caught in the whisk. Shall I

just keep going? You'll get there eventually. And crumble this in?

Yes. I did a BBC food show in Glasgow a few months ago and

someone told me about haggis bargies. I do like haggis. I do. I

like the flavour and the texture of it, with all the oats and the

barley. That's looking beautiful. know, I'm good at this. That's the

kind of texture we're looking for. Kind of like thick custard. That's

not a bad description. Thick cream, thick custard. Am I to mix it with

my hands? You can do, but now put it in there. And mix it to get

every little strand of filling is coated. Do you not trust me? Oh, I

do. You're standing over me like I'm going to ruin the bargey.

you're doing very well. So once it's all coated. It's quite a thick

mixture. Tim, do you want to do some quenelleing? I'd love to. So,

on Strictly last night....I watching X Factor. What! I took my

mum and daughters to Matilda. getting tweets from people who were

watching. I went on a mum and dads night out last night. And? It was

good fun. A lively bunch they are. Charlie's school class, all the

mums and dads went out for dinner. It was good fun. I'm sure they're

watching this morning, all hungover while I'm bright and breezy.

Get it on the right-hand spoon, like that. I think you're putting

too much on, Tim. You come and do it! Have it parallel to your body

and the front edge, and scoop it that way, so from underneath. And

same again, so you're constantly working it like that. You don't

have to do this, but we are doing it because we're celebrities.

is not as much fun as chopping, Simon.

If you have a deep-fat fryer at home, not many people do. Who has

one of those? Do you think they're not popular because we're all

eating more healthy? When I was a kid, the smell of the chip pan when

you came home meant it was going to be a good tea. If you're going for

chips, it's probably cheaper to buy them out, isn't it? But it's not

the same as home-made. These look like little beetles. I'm getting

quite good at skwepbling. What else can -- I'm getting quite good at

quenelleing. What else can I quenelle? Pate. And potato.

Shall I carry on, or have we got enough? Now we want little, thin

slices of our kumquats. Make sure they're perfect rounds, though.

They smell deligs yush. I like them with -- deligs yush -- delicious.

I like them with all the little bits hanging off.

If you don't cook them slowly enough you end up with a crispy

outside and all the batter is uncooked. So do them quite slowly.

Now, the whiskey in the pan. You should have warned us about

that! Health and safety. I did it in rehearsal. That's lovely. It is

nice. The orange juice goes in. The sugar goes in. And then what

happens is, we boil all this up for about 10 to 15 minutes and we end

up with a lovey whisky sirpy orange juice conkonction.

Then in go the little kumquats. Turn everything off and scoop that

out. It's always the last bit that gets me flustered. You're a little

bit flustered. I am. And we do three like that, because that's the

way we do it, because that's the way we're going to eat, but a big

pile if you're going to have a party. Can I ask a quick question,

what could we do if we didn't want haggis? You could leave the onions

out or put chick peas in. What about corned beef? That would be

nice! The sauce smells amazing.

couldn't taste them, unfortunately. I should have made you just an

onion one. No, that's fine. Joo did you dip it in the sauce? Yes. Can I

double dip. We're amongst friends. Go to the website and you'll find

all of today's recipies. It's nearly Christmas and freezing cold,

so probably the last thing you want to do is run around in shorts and

getting knocked into cold water, unless you're competing in Winter

unless you're competing in Winter Wipeout.

4 Colour coding, very useful. This is Deb in the green. You're going

to go last. Deb, you're too slow, calm down and watch me go.

Neck-and-neck on the nasty snowballs. And it's two for one

ladies' night down at granny's house. And they are heading down

the big balls markers. Go on girls! Ow! So Deb, or is that

Meg reaches the end in seven minutes, but the winner is Meg, or

Deb. Well done to...that one. Friendship over. That's it! And you

can dive into some Winter Wipeout on Saturday at six on BBC One.

Nessa in Gavin & Stacey she wrote her own catch phrase as everyone up

and down the country asked what's occurrin'. I can't do that, will

you do it for us, please, Ruth? What's occurrin'. It Now she is

returning to our screens with the third of her Christmas crackers.

What are you doing now? # This and that

# It's none of your business that I'm a face #. # I don't know what

you're doing this is my land # This is my place

# My territory. # Don't go on about it, I just came to see the boy.

# The boy loves you # He looks at you and says

#, "Yes, I love you " # But he's a Welsh boy he don't

want your Essex BLEEP # Welcome to the show. You'll have to

explain the show. Yes, my Christmas Cracker and James was my guest and

I thought it might be fun to see if we could make up on the spur of the

moment a musical Gavin & Stacey. And what you saw there was a

completely made up moment. And we had a bit of a laugh doing it.

got half Welsh children and that's the thing all the time. I don't

care what they are, but my family go they're half English and her

family say they're Welsh. It is very complicated. There have been

rumours off the back of that that there is going to be Gavin & Stacey

the musical. We've got Coronation Street the musical, I heard. Are

you going to do it? It was a joke. We seerlly don't have any plans. --

seersly don't have any plans to do it. We just did that little bit.

But the press took off with it. should do it? The problem is, James

and I love working together but we hardly have any time. So it's

finding time to do it because we'd like to write a special for Gavin &

Stacey. Oh! We always said we'd do a special, it's nothing new from

what we've said but it is literally finding the time. He's off to

America with his play and I've got my new series coming out, Stella.

Are you going to do any more plays? I've done one play in the last 16

years and I take my hat off to people doing it. James is brilliant

in his West End show. I've not seen it, but the reviews are good.

brilliant. I thought if I could do it with talkback in my ear, I could

do it, I wouldn't forget the lines. But if it's a musical you can just

sing anything. Night after night making it up. You mentioned Stella

there. And this is a new programme you've got coming out on Sky that

you wrote? Yes, Stella is a ten- part comedy drama series for Sky

and it comes out in January. I created it and wrote a lot of the

episodes and we had other writers in as well. And my production

company have made it and it's taken two years from start to finish. My

husband is the series producer on it. It's a home-grown series. It's

quite scary going from something like Gavin & Stacey, where it was

very successful, you then obviously have to face up to the fact that

people might go, "Oh, it wasn't as good as Gavin & Stacey." But is it

the same principle because that want a comedy, it was comedy ideas?

Yes, originally the producer at Sky wanted it to be a sitcom. And I

realised I couldn't write that kind of comedy. I producer a single

camera. It's set in the Welsh Valies and I play Stella and it's

about Stella's life. And there was a time when you weren't going to

set it in Wales because of the Gavin & Stacey thing? Absolutely.

When we were originally talking about who Stella was, we thought we

could move it to Bristol. We could go home every night, the Severn

Bridge tolls would be a bit high, but then I thought I know about

Wales, let's set it there. And the large is so sing-songy that it sets

testify up. It is. It's lovely. Where I set it, in the Valies is

very different from Barry skx Island. It's a very different

accent. And you say things like what's occurrin', and crackin, a

lush or a tidy. So I had to make sure there wasn't any of those

phrases so they didn't overlap. it's all about the vocabulary.

because in the Valies you say," I go to do my shopping, and I do this

and I go to do that," there's a lot of, "I go to do" in it. I think why

Gavin & Stacey worked and why Stella appeals is because you know

somebody like that and you know those situations do occur in real

life. And I think that's why people enjoy it. That's what we were

hoping to achieve. I play Stella, a woman in her early 40s and it's

about the people in her life. There's a dramatic story line that

overrides the ten episodes and within each episode there is an

event that takes place as well. It's quite a full series. Let's

have a look. Detoxing. There's nothing of you, love. You want to

get that Carol vaudman she's younger than you. Charming.

Where have you put my costume? are you on about? The environment

thing. Oh, you haven't done it. I have. It's as nans. Nan can't sow.

If you haven't done it, don't lie. It makes it worse. Have you been in

that situation. Oh, yes. I get a letter saying today is the school

play. And your inventiveness comes to the fore.

Do you find itesseer to act in -- easier to act in things you've

written? In some ways if you're acting in somebody else's project

your job is to turn up on the day and just act. But with this,

because our production company made it and it's taken two years of our

life you're far more involved with the whole process. So they're two

different experiences and I enjoyed both of them. With the process of

writing I love writing and saying the lines out loud. And for all the

different characters that are in Stella it's a joy to be able to

sort of act all of them. Ruth, back to your Christmas Cracker, a great

line-up of guests you have. Lulu, Micky Flannigan, the Manic Street

Preachers all on the show. And are you linking them with sketches?

no scratches. That just came out. I said to James, "Shall we try and

sing a song, but if it's rubbish we'll just cut it out. Because it's

not live." So did you do it in the middle of the summer? No, last week.

If you have any questions for Ruth do get in touch.

Ready for a blast from the past? All we want is your thoughts on

President Mandela has received a documentious welcome on the streets

of London. He paid tribute to those who

campaigned against racism. The Government is planning a total

ban on the private ownership of handguns.

Michael Jackson is to be divorced after only a few months after

What's so funny? Where have you guys been? It's only the hottest-

selling toy this Christmas. Where's your Christmas spirit?

no. What year's that? I've managed to erase Peter Andre out of my mine,

so I don't know the year. 2000. Why are we so wsh at this. When we --

so rubbish at this? When we first started we were good. I don't know,

now we're clouded. I don't know, '99. Time to look at what you've

cooked this week. Although we are putting the record straight. Last

week we had the fantastic Mark Cavendish and his mum on the show.

And she sent in a picture of her cooking. We didn't know it was

Mark's mum. Are you saying that if we had, she'd have gone to the top?

Of course, she's on our side of the rope! This is Mark's lovely mum and

ages ago she made the salmon and justice has now been done for you.

And this is Stu and Ellie Sale from Greater Manchester. Why in the

banana costumes? We will never know. That could be a good idea for

photos, in your fancy dress outfits. If you've got a good one, because

people do fancy dress at this time of the year. I always think the

best themes are sports people, because everyone can do that, or go

for ...I was going to say Essex, but is that rude? Possibly? Reality

television stars. I thought I was being rude there, because you're

taking the Micky dressing up like that. I don't know. Back to the

fridge. All the ladies who made the biscuits and they've got cut outs

of all of us. Lou is there, I'm there and.....

Which football kit is that? I don't know.

You did make it in, we just cut it off. All right. Do keep your photos

coming in, of whatever person you want to be.

want to be. What are we cooking, Simon? We are

going small today. Imagine, Christmas Day. We've had the turkey.

And you've got the leftovers. Sandwiches. We're going better than

that, we're going for little turkey pot pies.

So, turkey, spare red wine, carrots, onion, chilli, garlic, stock and

short-crust pastry. In here, a little bit of bacon. So you've had

the bacon for breakfast on Boxing Day. Slice or chop or dies whatever

you want to do with the onion and I'll do similar with the carrot.

This is making a simple casserole. This week, I did one of the best

things I've ever done. I went to Prime Minister's Question Time.

you? It was just amazing. Have you been ever? No. If you get a chance

to go, because you can go there in the gallery. It's like sport. They

all start wandering in and Ed Miliband comes in and he's looking

edgy, getting ready for his hammering of Cameron. And then

Cameron comes in. It's like boxing. Is it tactical? I think they should

work more tactics. Because they make a lot of noise. If I was them

I'd get my backbenchers to be quiet and only get them to make a noise

when I indicated. To show I was in control! It was amazing. A really

great experience. I think if you were leading the word "democracy"

might go quite quickly. If or when? It will probably happen one day.

Probably when we've made a success of the Olympics and people realise

we are the champions. Now, we're making a casserole. Normally we

take our time and cook is nice and slowly. I've done small chunks. Did

we want bigger? It really doesn't matter. We are doing small, but you

can do a large one. If you have a pan like this that can go in the

oven chuck everything in the pan and in it goes. My favourite is

chicken and chorizo. Did you put stock in it or a creamy sauce?

stock. Bacon, onion, carrot and chuck in the tomato puree and cook

it for about four or five minutes to lose the bitter taste. Then

chuck in -- assuming it has cooked for four or five minutes. Chuck in

everything else. If you're having beef on Christmas Day and it's left

over, chuck that in. It's all about the leftover stuff you've got.

Sprouts, potatoes. Why are you using red wine with turkey? I like

it. I think the depth of flavour works well. If you do a white wine

with stock it's never as lovely in a pie. The red wine gives you the

richness. Traditionally, with white meat, yes, you'd expect to use a

white wine, but not necessarily. Now, we're doing a pot pie so this

has got to go cold. If it isn't cold when you put the pastry on top,

it will sink. So it has to be cold, the pie filling, to keep the pastry

crispy. Is that the same with all pies? Yes. Next job, Tim. Roll out

the short-crust pacery. Are you cooking on Christmas Day? I'm not

sure yet. I haven't worked out all the finer details. How about you?

am. We have everybody coming to us on Christmas Day. So we are having

turkey. I like it. How about goose? I always say I'll have a change and

do beef one year, but next week on the show we're doing venison

Wellington. Here are the little ramikins. A bit

of egg wash around there and spoon into each the lovely pie mix.

out one lid. Just press it, like that. But before the lid goes on,

cut a little rim around the top so it holds it in place. In fact,

we'll have to do a liinger pie lid than that. So, take a thin strip of

pacery and place it around the edge. And then another one. A little egg

wash on it. Pop the lid on it and crimp it round like that and then

we'll trim it. You know when we started this five years ago, did

you ever imagine you'd be crimping pies for Christmas? I don't think I

was thinking that, no. If you do a big one it's exactly

the same principle. Then trial the edge. Cut it, come down. Beautiful.

And then just a little hole in the top for the steam to come out and

then egg wash again. And always, for me, if you've got the time, egg

wash, in the fridge so it sets, more egg wash so it's really,

really shiny. And we made these in advance. They are good things to

make pies. Yes, and you can serve it with a big bowl of potato,

vegetables, or salad, whatever you've got. Ah, they're slightly

bigger than party like a celebrity food. They're quite big. Yes, but

you could do a themable-sized one. I don't want to eat the turkey, but

I really want to taste the pastry. See, the red wine works. It's like

cluck and surf. This is very nice flutedness here. I don't think we

would have got that from the one you were doing. All right, steady.

I used to love slicing the pastry rim off when my mum cooked. Oh, yes,

a little bit of a chilli kick. pudding? A chocolate and cranberry

pudding? A chocolate and cranberry rule yard -- roulade.

Now, Rev. I imagine I'll have quite a large choir in my church. We must

keep in touch when we're both vicars. I didn't know you had put

yourself up for ordination? Yes, your Bishop was enthusiastic. He'd

have written a glowing reference, as I'm sure you will. Yes. I can't

decide whether I prefer a rural parish, or Piccadilly. Are you sure

you want to an priest? What I realised on the course is how much

better I'd be than all the other people there. I shouldn't say that.

Say what? Bishops frown upon people who are certain they've been called

by God. It's good to be doubtful. Quite right. Don't write it down.

You've never considered a cathedral. Never interested in that. I joined

the church to become a parish priest in a church like this.

see, to do the doubtful, humble thing. You're very good at it.

the truth. No, you're brilliant. have no interest in becoming Bishop.

And you can watch that on Thursday at 9pm on BBC Two.

Now, our next guests have combined forces on a Christmas album, but

before that, all their hits came # All my life

# Watching a miracle # All my life

# Pending a miracle # Oh, oh, oh #

Yes, Tom Smith and Andy Burrows are here, who have made up a new band

called Smith and Burrows. You got a band together and then you decided

to put together a Christmas album. Is that what happened? What

happened? Yeah, that is what happened. It started off non-

festive. Just a chance for us to get into a studio. And it grew.

were friends and you were sat in a pub, am I right? And you said, "We

should work together? Yes, and then it took three or four years for it

to happen. Really? Yeah, we've been busy. And we started on a day in

May. Is it a nice experience because you're used to writing in a

band and then suddenly you're taken out of that comfort zone. Is it

refreshing? That's why we tried it to see if there was any point of us

working together. And it wasn't until song three that you brought

in a song. So you started just by saying, "We're going to do some

cover songs" and then you brought in a song. We did Black and

gentleman zoo's opbl you. -- ya yazyoo's Only You.

I have to say, I can't stop listening to this album. It's

really great. What made you decide to write a Christmas album? Well

those first two songs had a wintery feel about them. And we couldn't

find too many we could do, so we wrote our own and it...Smobled.

you describe -- snowballed. Can you describe the songs though, because

they're not up Christmas songs. they're down Christmas songs.

Climbs can be a bit of a time for reflection. It's a bit of a winter

warmer. A drunken glow. It gives people something different if you

don't want the typical Christmas song and you appreciate the music

element and the whole package on that particular album. I think

that's what comes across. Yes, it's more luck than judgment. Which is

what you wanted. You wrote that song When The Thames Froze. And

you're going to be singing that for us at the end. Did you think it was

more like the Editors? Well I've been trying to write a Christmas

song every year, because you hear all the old ones on the radio. But

I don't think they one could be put out as a Christmas song. I'd have

to float it with the other three, we're a democracy. What do the

Editors think of you doing Christmas songs? Some of them like

it, some don't. I have to ask you about Razorlight. You left it, a

very successful band. Have you and Johnny spoken since? No, we haven't.

We live about five minutes apart, I believe. Christmas is a time for

that. That's it. Take around your album and knock on his door. James

Harris says, "Will there be a chance of a supergroup between your

bands?" We've got our drummer. We've got two drummers, great.

Three. Lots of drummers and us two. And you're a drummer. Oh, yeah, I'm

a drummer. Is this something you're going to carry on doing? Are there

more albums in the pipeline? Yes, when the time is right. There are

four original songs on the album and we're excited about what we've

done so we're going to make a proper record, but not Christmas.

You're already on tour at the moment? Yes we are. Where is it?

The union chapel. They're going to be banging out

their tune later in the programme. So tweet questions for them or Ruth

So tweet questions for them or Ruth Jones. Have you done many

interviews together, by the way? Yes, we've done a lot. But nothing

as amazing as this. I'm pleased you said that. Still a lot to squeeze

in today. Steve Jobs wasn't always a Billion

Dollar Hippy. He destroyed everything I'd spent ten years

working for. Simon is cooking celeriac and

mushroom vol-au-vents. And there's tourettes: I swear I can sing.

It causes voluntary sounds and movements.

OK, we are joined in the kitchen right now by Ruth. What are we

right now by Ruth. What are we cooking?

We're doing a chocolate and cranberry rulard. It's like a yule

log, but slightly different. I like that word "rulard." It's a good

word, or we can call it log. You can use fresh cranberries in this,

but they're so bitter cook them with a load of sugar. If you eat

one raw you really know about it. Did we cook these ourselves?

they're not. Fresh rasberry puree. Icing sugar, castor sugar, cocoa

powder and flour. Loads of egg whites that we've whisked. So first

of all, start whisking a add the castor shiing yar into it. This --

sugar into it. Do you cook at home? Sometimes I do, but I've got an Aga

and I don't know how to do it. You have to put a cold shelf in. Yes,

because it's the same temperature. My sister is a great cooker. I do

all the shop-bought cakes and she makes them all. She's brilliant.

you have another cooker as well as your Aga, because a lot of people

do. We have one of those little portable ones, but that's a bit

like camping. I should go on a course to learn how to use it

properly. Yes, it is something you have to learn. Or you just let your

husband do it! So, we're doing this a little bit too quickly really.

Whisk the egg whites and the castor sugar so is keeps going glossy.

Beautifully done. I remember this from home economics. Well done!

It's starting to get glossy, so add the cornflour. When Simon and Tim

were cooking we were talking about weight loss, because I said how

amazing you looked. And we were talking about how you lost weight.

But you did it over two years. it's funny because it got into the

press recently, and people were talking about, "Ruth's sudden

weight loss," but it took two years. And I did it the old-fashioned way.

Did you? Yes, you can just go on- line and get the calorie value of

chicken or something. There are so many quick-fixes. Which work for a

small period of time, but I think to count calories, be careful over

a period of time. And you have to accept that you have to be patient.

Patience is the biggest and best ingredient. I've still got a couple

of stone to go, so it ain't over yet. Really, do you want to lose

more? I did it because of this healthy BMI thing and I wanted to

get my BMI right. And according to the charts I wanted to be a couple

of stone lighter. You never know, it may not happen. If it doesn't

happen, it doesn't happen. Good attitude. Spoon all of that into

there. This is a chocolate mering, type of thing. This is the outside.

You know like your traditional Christmas log is sponge, isn't it?

Yes which is quite heavy, actually after Christmas dinner. This might

be a bit lighter. Yes, it will be lighter. Although there is no fat

in a log, is there? Is there not? In a meringue. No, it's just egg

whites and sugar. I like that texture. It's really glossy. You

can't beat it. Even though we've done it really, really quickly,

it's still quite glossy. But if you cook it for a minute too longer,

it's all over and you have to start again. But you want a certain

amount of crackle. My mum makes fantastic merangue. There is an art

to it. So we want to end up with crispy on

the outside and chewy in the middle. So the next thing to do, to turn it

out is pop another piece of paper on there and dust it with icing

sugar, to stay nice and sweet. There's that hint of chocolate,

which is nice. That's it. There's not loads and loads of chocolate in

it. If you get that intense chocolate powder, that's good for

you, isn't it? Yes. I have to find all the reasons for justifying

eating this amazing pudding. Oh, you did that very comfortably.

peel off the paper, and it doesn't matter if you break little bits of

the edging off, because we want that rough look. Can I taste a

little bit? I do that with be kids, I check their food and take four

booing scoops. Oh, that's the danger. -- four big scoops.

Now, a spread of rasberry on there. So, we've got. That will do, Ruth,

that's fine. All of the rasberry and a liberal sprinkling of

cranberries on the top. Is this just blended rasberries is that all

it is? It is. But you could add a little bit of booze if you wanted.

Then two more things to do. Scrape all of this....Try As hard as I

might, I cannot say that has no calories! No, absolutely not.

I can see the little flecks of vanilla. Simon does everything

properly, with the proper vanilla pods. Yes, they are dear, so you

can use the vanilla flakes. That works fine as well. This is the

comedy value. You have to do it with your leg in the air. We're

going to roll short ways and it doesn't matter if it cracks. Just

keep going. You see, Mrs Phillips had a piece over the top and you

went like that. Is this what I'm going to do? You have to be comfort.

This will roll! Can we just do that! Beautiful. Now, the joy ofing

is like a merangue rule yard gshgsh rulard it's like a worm. I don't

think we should talk about worms. Then garnish with rasberries around

the edge. Could you grab the side plates. And

then chocolate sauce. How did you make the chocolate sauce? Equal

quantities of butter, sugar, chocolate and a little water to

keep it thinner. Shall everyone just dive in with a

fork. And it's gooey and sticky and you have the flavourers in there.

What are me and the guys cooking? Vol-au-vents, the classic Christmas

dish. That's delicious. Now, concentrate the mind and try

to name the year in your second to name the year in your second

part of dej -- Deja View. President Mandela has received a

tumultuous welcome on the streets of London. The Government is

discussing tonight a total ban on private handguns.

Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley are to be divorced after

Divorce for Jackson and jingle all the way. But what year? I went '99,

Simon went 2000. Andy Burrows was at that top of the pops, watching

in the audience and he's just told me the year. What do you think?

Wrong. You said '99. But I got it wrong. Andy just told me. I'm going

to go with '95. One of you has it right. Onwards and upwards. Wayne?

This drink is a taste of Christmas. Mincemeat. Lots of plump fruit in

it, sultanas, apples, spices and stewed fruits in there. And the

suet. Which gives it the mice, round, full flavour. So a couple of

teaspoons. This is mince pie filling and it has everything you

want to have in Christmas spices and mix with cognac and rum. Cognac

is fresh and fruity and the rum has the vanilla sweetness and a bit

more dry. Equal measures of cognac and golden rum. It's quite potent

for a Sunday morning! Luckily we've only got one cocktail today!

will be nice and warming. And a Clementine. I like warm alcoholic

drinks in the winter like mulled wine. I do like a cocktail. I had

Ameretto with orange juice in it? Yes, lovely.

Give it a shake to combine it all. The Clementine gives it the lovely

freshness. It is a boozey drink but it's a

real Christmas warmer and a really lovely balance of flavours.

The fine strain because you don't want the pulp of the mincemeat.

can't imagine, you know sometimes when you make a drink, Wayne, I can

imagine what it will taste like but I can't imagine what it will be

like with the mincemeat in there. It will surprise you. It will taste

so Christmassy. Yeah, it's lovely! It tastes like Christmas. It is,

it's just a Christmas favour flavour. Oh, that's really nice.

You can't really taste the mincemeat it's just Christmassy.

Could you heat that up? Yeah, in a mug! Every night! It's very good.

If you want to make Wayne's mincemeat cocktail go to the

website to find the recipe. long now until Tom Smith and Andy

Burrows give us an acoustic burst of When The Thames Froze.

But now, this is Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Hippy.

The most serious disagreement was between Steve Jobs and the man he'd

made Chief Executivetive. The two men were battling observer the

future of Apple. I was focused on the cash flow of

the Apple too. We had to have that coming in. Steve wanted to drop the

price of the Mackintosh and put more marketing against the

Mackintosh. I felt we couldn't afford that. 30-year-old Jobs had

picked a fight with a tremendous foe. I Steve didn't know how the

play the games. I said, Steve, I'm going to the board of directors. He

didn't think I'd do that, but I did. And the board said, "We agree with

John and we don't agree with you, Steve and they asked him to step

down from heading the Mackintosh division." Eleven years later,

Steve was still bitter? When can I say? I hired the wrong guy and he

destroyed everything I'd spent ten years working for. Starting with me,

but that wasn't the saddest part. I'd have gladly left Apple if it

had turned out how I wanted it to Now we've looked at men's presents

and women's presents, so now, all we have to talk about are

children's presents? Ruth, you're going to help us? Yes, looking for

my nieces and negative use. How old are they? A mixture. From 16 to two.

The first idea is the ride-in Dalek. Let's show you the footage of the

little boy riding around in this earlier. You could drive it

yourself? If you're aged three to six. A big six-year-old won't

manage it. And how chilled out does he look! My friend, Lucy, who is

inier 40s is terrified of Daleks. That might be good for her. What's

the eldest you can be. Six, but if you're particularly big, it may not

be suitable. And how much is it? It's not cheap. It's �200. I love

it. That has a hums up. Next, the Barbie design principles. Barbie is

62 years old and still looking good. Having little daughters I've had to

spend all my life changing things, and all the little bits of plastic

go missing all the time. I was an Action Girl when I was younger, and

I cut off her hair to turn into Action Man. How much are they?

We have one here. Would you wear one of them? I think it would look

rather strange in my hair. What is this? This is a Royal Navy

destroyer. It's a 516 piece replica set, with a rotating gun and all

the little pieces lift up. teaches you how to be a destroyer.

Yes, teaches about war early on. it's not Lego? No, it's by

character building. It will keep the kids quiet for

ages. Did you give us a price on that? That one is �49.99. This is

the Gelarti Design Studio. It comes with the little stickers and four

gels so you can colour them in. And you can do it on the move to keep

the little ones quiet. Is that going to be easy to clean up?

with it being gels, it is easy to clean up. A little bit sticky.

experience you'll only use that once before it's gone everywhere.

Yes, but it's nice to encourage creativity. I like this, everyone

likes everything today. This is the Hexbug Nano Elevation Habitat Set.

You just set them going and they bang into the walls and eventually

they find their way around. And kids collect the things. I think my

nephew might like that. How much is this one? That's �34.99. And you

can get extra Nano boxes. I like that one. This is one of my

favourites. I'll turn it on. This is one of the top tipped presents

for this year. It's the fijyit. -- Fijit. Could you dance, please?

Please dance. True to form, she has got camera shy. Perhaps you have to

do it in an American accent? annoying would that be after, what?

Seven minutes. So if you have a friend you want to irritate that's

the one to go for. They all have different personalities. She will

dance and tell jokes. They are quite cute. It looks quite safe.

There's no nasty bits on it. Yes, you can Scottish it and you tickled

its tummy before. Yes, and it laughed. These are really cool and

what everyone wants this year, Angry Birds. There are three in the

set, we have two today. The red bird is �49.99 and comes with a

3.5mm jack. I'll turn it on for you to hear the quality. And they come

with a docking station they will work with a 3.5mmjack. Does it do

anything? No. I was waiting for it to dance. No, but there are

millions of fans out there. Very cool. Moving on to this, this is

beautiful. I think this is a really nice idea. Come on, play with us.

This is nice for a first Christmas for a keepsake by OneFineDay. You

can get different styles on the names here, and a message on the

bottom, so it could be first Christmas or from grandma or a

friend. Where do you get those? can get them on-line. I'd like to

say, after a few drinks on Christmas Day how many adults will

try to get into that Dalek! Yes, with legs hanging out.

This is a story of a woman and her constant battle to overcome her

verbal and physical tics. It's tourettes: A swear I can sing.

NUTS. # NU tufplt dd # NUTS, absolutely NUTS. #

Bum, mouth. I get weird looks, funny looks, comments. Some of it's

positive. But you always evoke a reaction.

Always. Even simple tasks are a bit different with Ruth. Knickers.

you can never be sure of how people will react. Why? Do you think this

is singing? It's tourettes syndrome, which is a neurological condition

Oh, yes. Have you heard of the syndrome before? Yes, I have.

you didn't recognise it straight off, did you? No, because it's so

different. That's good. You will sleep well tonight.

And you can watch the very touching programme Monday at nine on BBC

Three. Tom and Andy, better known as Smith and Burrows are in the

kitchen. How is your cooking, guys? Err...Touch And go. Do you cook?

the past few years, Jamie's been seeing me through with the App.

you friends? Is he standing by? you friends? Is he standing by?

no, just the App. What are we going to cook? Vol-au-vents. And these

guys are going to play a song for us, so we're very excited. But

don't cut your fingers. Butter, curry powder, and stock. And

mushrooms. Egg yolk and flaked almonds. We made a roux. The flour

and the butter putting it together and added the stock and the curry

powder. And the pastry, the vol-au- vents themselves are little cases.

Andy, the first job, we'll have six circles, please.

We've been asking people what their favourite Christmas song is and

we've got some through. Lindsey Davidson says Last Christmas by

Wham. What is yours? The Poges again. There is a cover version at

the moment. And some songs shouldn't be covered. That's one of

them. Stop the cavalry. I don't mind all of them at the right time

of the year, that Christmassy spirit. What about the big Frank

versus Deano. Who is your favourite? Dean did a very good

have yourself a very merry Christmas. That's amazing. Simon,

what do you think? I'm slightly biased, because years ago I got to

sit in the chair that Frank sat in. You sat in his chair! I thought you

have going to say you met him. all the guys who worked there were

still working there and they were all in their 90s. No way did you

fall from sitting in his chair. Don't shatter my illusions!

Now a little bit of egg wash on there. What do you think about the

Christmas number one now because it's so controversial. It used to

be everybody put their song in the hat and then the public decided but

now The X Factor has come along and they get it, or rage against the

machine, it's one versus the other now. It's a little less exciting

and less imaginative. So do you think they shouldn't release The X

Factor one? I don't know. It's good entertainment. It's just lazy. I'd

like to hear some new songs. It's become a tradition now, that The X

Factor single....It's Just The X Factor against the people rebelling

against it. That's the race. Yes, it's a Facebook campaign. I don't

know if they're running one this year? I think it's Nirvana.

So, chuck in the egg yolk and give it a good beat around. This will

make it richer. And add a little touch of milk into that, or cream.

And this gives it some delicious richness. You're both dads aren't

you? Where will you be spending Christmas? In north London, where

we live. Is the album one you've bought for

friends? That is brought you close. Is there a bit of a romance? Like

me and Simon? I don't know about the romance. This will help.

And drop in the word "dear." So, Andy while your other half

is....Take Out the middle butt of the vol-au-vents, so we can put the

filling in. And John, you chuck in the mushrooms and celeriac. And

make sure they're all coated. You could do prawns, chicken, whatever

you want to do, really. And pretty much the final part of it is just

spooning some into the middle. And Tom, this is you. The best way to

make sure they stay nice and neat is hold it like that, and then go

in vertically. I'm going to do a special one for myself without

mushrooms. Go vertical. When did you record the album, by the way,

it's called? Funny looking angels. We started it in May, and then June.

Yeah, all the way through the summer. Because we were doing

festivals with our other...Were trying to get into the Christmas

vibe while you were doing? Yes, we had a little tree. We didn't do it

in a recording studio, it was in somebody's attic. And we had tinsel

and a little tree and a robin. It is weird to get into that frame

of mind. Sprinkle on almond and reheat them

in a warm oven and we end up with these rather beautiful little

fellers here, which are the classic party dish. Can I ask you another

question about recording. Did you think, "We've got to use sleigh

bells on this"? We tried. We bought some, but they sounded terrible.

there are sleigh bells. Yes, it's official. Now, you have to go off

to get ready to play for us live. And Simon, you're finishing that

And Simon, you're finishing that off. I am. Over to Louise. The Deja

View year was 1996. Andy was there watching it. I kind

of got it right. Are we all ready now to do live music. Yes, it's

exciting. Oh, sew, we're not going over there yet. I've been told

we've got to ask you some e-mails yet. How did you think of the

omelettes in Gavin & Stacey. Did you eat as many as were on screen.

They were a big thing? Yes, Gwen always made an omelette. That was

her thing. She did a Christmas one with turkey leftovers in the

Christmas special. Is that a Welsh thing? Not really. I don't know

where it came from. But you can't go wrong with an omelette. It's

fast food. The only problem was I had to eat a lot of them, because

the art department made them on the day. It's fine just one, but too

many.... And cold turkey. Yes, the affair with the turkey. Where do

these Welsh sayings all come from? They're all stuff, like, with

Stella, they're things that I've heard people say or I've envented

stuff that I think might be said. Do you Welsh people love you for

putting it on? Lush and all that? don't know if they love me, but I

hope I have done them a good service and presented them well.

It's been a great show. A big thanks to Ruth. We're back next

Sunday with pixie lot and the wanted. But to play us out are Tom

Smith and Andy Burrows. When The Thames Froze.

# God damn, this snow # Will I ever get where I wanna go?

# And so I skate across the Thames # Hand in hand with all my friends

# Another year draws to its close # Entire London slows

# When I dream tonight, I'll dream of you

# When the Thames... Froze # So, tell everyone that there's

hope in your heart # Tell everyone or it will tear you

apart # At the end of Christmas Day, when

there's nothing left to say # The years go by so fast, let's

hope the next beats the last # So tell everyone that there's

hope in your heart # Tell everyone or it will tear you

apart # At the end of Christmas Day, when