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-Excuse me, will you buy me a burger? -In the last five years, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
the numbers of homeless people in Britain have soared. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
People think it's easy out here. But it's not. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
And the rising cost of housing means over 8 million of us | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
have only enough money saved to cover one month's rent or mortgage. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
I've built so much up in my life | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
and all of a sudden a run of luck just took it all away from me. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
And with support services having their budgets cut, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
life's getting tougher for those living on the street. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
-GLASS SMASHES -Where did that come from? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
And now for four famous volunteers... | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
My family didn't want me to do this at all. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
..the prospect of homelessness | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
is about to become a frightening reality. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
DOG BARKS, DOOR BANGS | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
I don't think he understands just how tough this is. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Whoever comes back next time, it'll be their last as well. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
In aid of Sport Relief, the four who have agreed to swap fame and | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
fortune for a life on the streets are - | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
TV presenter Julia Bradbury... | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
I'm frightened because I think women are particularly | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
vulnerable on the streets. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
Ex-snooker player Willie Thorne... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
When I see people on the streets, I think, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
"There but for the grace of God go I." | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I just want to help them if I can, cos obviously they're in a bad way. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Comedian Nick Hancock... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
I'm used to my creature comforts, I'm used to family | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
and people I can talk to. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
I'm a kind of a three-showers-a-day man. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
And TV personality Kim Woodburn. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
I'm going to meet people that are genuinely homeless. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
I'm going to meet people that don't want to work at all | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
and will always be homeless and they just can get on with it | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
cos I've got no time for it. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
Through their eyes, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
you'll witness the reality facing Britain's rough sleepers. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-I hate the way people look at you. -Any spare change at all? | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
If they don't give you money, you're not going to eat. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Look! A whole new mattress. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
A world most people never see. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
-So this is where you sleep every night? -Yes. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
-I take my torch see if any rats or mouse have been through. -Hm. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
-AGITATED SHOUTING -I'm worried about this lady. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
-Will they possess the resilience... -She needs help now. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
..and strength of character to survive? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
It's Victorian, is what it is. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
It's Oliver, with different clothes. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Or will they be overwhelmed... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
If you want to be educated in this life, do not complain. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
All right. OK, I've finished. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
I'm being talked down to by everybody. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
..by the reality of being homeless... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
You're only homeless cos you're a skag head! | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
You know what...? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
..in 21st century Britain? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
See you in the morning. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
This programme contains some strong language. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
Bye-bye, Mummy! Bye-bye. Can you wave, Xanthe? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
The four volunteers are leaving behind their families. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
And they're comfortable lifestyles... | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
You take care of yourself. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
..to spend a week homeless on the streets of London. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Keeping a watchful eye on the progress will be John Bird - | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
a former rough sleeper and the founder of the Big Issue magazine. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Good afternoon, my love, Big Issue today? | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
There we are - "The amazing journey of Big Issue boss John Bird. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
"Last time I was in Parliament, I was washing up in the canteen | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
"and now I'm the first Lord to have slept rough." | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
This experiment has to show how God-awful it is to | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
be on the streets. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
And how your life changes, your character changes, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
your body changes. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
And that you become obsessed with how you get through the day. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Sometimes, how do you get through the next few minutes. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Had a massive bowl of pasta before I left. Had a hot chocolate. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
So many emotions going through my head, I'm feeling apprehensive... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
I want to experience the truth of being on the streets. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
-Had a protein bar. -Keen. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
You know, I am a sportsman, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
the goal is to complete whatever you're doing. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Had a fry up this morning. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:03 | |
I have had a lot of adversity in my life, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
most of it self-inflicted, and this is just another challenge. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
For John, running this experience is personal. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
He has asked the volunteers to meet him | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
in one of his old haunts under Waterloo train station. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
I slept in this arch when I was 15. It was absolutely terrible. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
People would try and piss on you, people would pick on you, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
you were cold, you were wet, you were lonely. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
You were pursued. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Now what we are going to do is we are going to take each | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
one of you and put you in a different part of London. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
You are going to have to find a place to sleep, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
you are going to have to find a place to eat. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
John, can I just ask you... I am a terrible cynic. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
And I am rather doubtful what can be done when | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
a bunch of people like us go out for a very short period of time. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
I, like you, I wasn't cynical, I was sceptical. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
And when I was asked to do this kind of stuff, I said, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
I am not going to get involved because it doesn't change anything. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
It has changed a lot. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
I have to say also, you only have to have a problem around drink, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
around drugs, around depression, around family breakdown | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
and all these things, and there are a lot of people who will get caught out. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
I am here to be a person who can come along and | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
when things get a bit sticky, I can swap a few words with you. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
But I am not here to do your thinking for you, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
do you understand that? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
-Yup. -Yeah. -You are totally and utterly on your own. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-I need your phones and your wallets. -Yeah. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
The newly homeless volunteers are not allowed to stay at a hotel | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
or rely on their celebrity status to aid them. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-This is your clobber. -Thank you. -Wow. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
John has also provided them with some old clothes to help them | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
blend in with the rest of London's rough sleepers. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Those are actually nicer than the things you have got on. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-Do you think so? -Well, I think... -If that was an option. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
I'm just saying... I'm going to take what I've got. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
My God, look at him! What a figure of a man. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
Is it nice?! | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Let me feel it. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
-Oh, my God! -Silk. -That's sexy. That is sexy! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
-Here we go, am I looking presentable? -You look quite nice. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
You don't look like you need any money. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
That's not going to help, is it? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
What makes this place special isn't just the view, it's | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
this stuff under my feet. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
As a presenter of programmes like Countryfile | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
and Wainwright's Walks, Julia Bradbury is used to spending | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
time on her feet in the great outdoors. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
My body is emitting a hot, damp heat. I want to sit down. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Oh, little kick, kick, kick! | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
I've got children now. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
We're a really lucky family. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
I have a very cosy, comfortable life. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
And that's one of the reasons why I want to have this experience. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
It's not about feeling guilty. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
I suppose it's a bit of a wake-up call for us all. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
You can't live in a big city in this country any more | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
and not encounter homelessness. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
It's on the increase and it bothers me. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
And I want to highlight it as a cause, because I actually | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
think it's something we could genuinely do more about. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
So, you're all dressed up for the parts, you're looking great. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
-How are you feeling in this new uniform? -Apprehensive. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
That's the key thing. I believe it'll be zero degrees tonight. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Hopefully I've got enough on me to be warm enough. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
I can only wish you the best and good luck. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
-Good man. -Thank you, John. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
The volunteers are on their way to their drop-off points. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
They are going into a very threatening world | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
and they won't know who to trust, because the first thing that | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
disappears when you fall out on the streets, is the truth. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
You go onto the streets | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
and sometimes you're hiding from your family, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
you are hiding from the police, you're hiding from your past life. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
This is me, is it? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Kim is being taken straight to | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Piccadilly Circus in the West End. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
Right. I want a bed whereby I'm seen by many people. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
That might be good, because you see under here, my loves, look. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
I have got cover if it rains, haven't I? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
I think this will do me. I think so. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-NICK: -So, where do you think you two? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
I bet it's Knightsbridge now. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
-NICK LAUGHS -Straight outside Harrods. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
MUSIC: Snooker Loopy by Chas N' Dave | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Willie Thorne has become accustomed to life's luxuries. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
# Now old Willie Thorne, his hairs all gone | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
# And his mates all take the rise | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
# His opponents said "Cover up his head | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
# "Cos it's shining in my eyes..." # | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I was very, very lucky to be around in the '80s | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
when snooker was the number one sport. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
In a good year you could earn like a million quid. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
# It's just not fair giving off that glare | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
# Perhaps I ought to chalk it... # | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
But since retirement, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
Willie has lost all of the money he made during his career. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
I know that when I am walking down the street now people think, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
"Willie Thorne, he's done like five million quid gambling." | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
I'm borrowing from moneylenders and things like that. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
And having problems in my life by them ringing up and saying, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
"Look, we'll come round and break your knuckles" or something if you don't kind of pay. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
And that's what really got me depressed. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
I wanted to commit suicide and came very close to doing so. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
Gambling cost him his first marriage and his house. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
And he's recently declared himself bankrupt to enable him | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
to stay in his current home. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
He has lived a pampered life, really. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
He likes everything handed to him on a plate. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
He's never been in that situation or anything remotely like that | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
where he's had to fend for himself. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
Willie will have to start fending for himself in Brixton, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
in south London. SIREN WAILS | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
That's not a good sign, is it, seeing police cars | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
race around everywhere. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
Welcome to Brixton. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Good luck, everyone. Bye for now. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Could do with a sit down, I know that. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
I like to think that a penny will drop and think, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
actually this could have happened to me. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
At the age of 61, it's about time he did actually learn, bless him. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
It doesn't take long for Willie to get a cold dose of reality. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Say it again? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
That's what I'm trying to do myself. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
It's my first day homeless, I'm trying to get some money myself. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
That's why these people are here. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
No, no. That's what they're saying. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
All right, we need to do something. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
I need to sit down and have a think. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
Willie should be thinking of finding a place to bed down for the night. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
He's taken a seat outside the cinema. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
I am happy to sit here, you know, with the music going on. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
It's not a bad place to sit. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
But, you know, it's just a bit worrying, really. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
No. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
SIREN BLARES | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
What's this, Hackney high street? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Dalston in the East End... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
..is where Nick will start his life on the streets. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
-Good luck. -Thank you. I'm not sure I know where Dalston is. -No. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Let's go this way. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
He soon attracts some unsolicited attention. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
He's not a totally happy bunny, that chap. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
He's following me, yeah. No doubt about it. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
That's why I stopped on that corner. What are you following me for? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
It could have been any number of things. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
He might even be old enough to think he'd seen me on the television! | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-APPLAUSE -Hello and welcome to They Think It's All Over. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
'Many, many, many years ago, I used to do a sports quiz called They Think It's All Over.' | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
-Gary? -"Nick Hancock is a wanker". -LAUGHTER | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
'Looking back on and seeing the young person I was doing that, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
'with the lack of fear, is quite alien to me now.' | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
'I live, you know, an incredibly comfortable life. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
'I have lovely children, a lovely wife, a comfortable home. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
'We were down in London one time, I think to watch a football match, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
'and a friend we hadn't seen for a couple of years, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
'he was outside Great Portland Street, begging.' | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
That was a real wake-up call. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Excuse me, mate, you haven't got a spare fag, have you? | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Have a great evening. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
-Do you know where karaoke bar is? -Oh, I don't know, mate. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
-The sing-along...? -I don't know, mate. No. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
I have to sleep somewhere, probably down here, I'm thinking. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
-Do you think that's a good place? -Homeless people sleep on cardboard. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
-Is that... That's the trick, is it? OK. -Insulates the heat. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
So you're not right on the stone. OK, I'll go for that. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-That's a great piece of advice. Cheers, Santa. -Take care. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
Cheers, mate. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
As Nick prepares his bed for the night... | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
Julia is thinking about how she can avoid sleeping rough. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
My number one priority tonight is | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
if at all possible, I would like not to sleep on the streets. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
She is being dropped in Camden Town. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
An affluent area of north London that attracts many rough sleepers. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Don't know where I'm going. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
There are lots of people sleeping rough here. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
Ladies, hi. Hiya. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
I am doing my first night sleeping rough tonight | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and I am trying to find enough money for a hostel tonight. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
I've got no money, but if you want to sleep on the sofa with me... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
I didn't know if anybody would be kind enough to spare any change. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
Begging is illegal. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
And over 800 people are prosecuted for it every year. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
I hope that will make it a bit better. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
I would argue that I am not technically begging. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
I would say that I am talking to people and I am asking them | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
for money. I hate to ask and I'm...really grateful. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
Wow! But I am not actually sitting on the street with my hands opened | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
wide and technically begging, that's what I would say. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Oh, my God, thank you so much. You are really kind. Thank you. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
Oh, you are so kind. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
There's a hostel down there. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
I don't know if it's down here. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-Oh! Have you been in the Army? -Yeah, of course, my darling. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
Bloody hell. It's terrible, isn't it? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
Kim hasn't strayed more than a few yards from where she was dropped. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
And she's already started making new friends. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
How does an army man end up on the streets? | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
When did you come out? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
I came out about 16 years ago. Met a girl, had kids, a normal life. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
-Then what happened? -Well, me and her split up. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
I finally got diagnosed with PTSD and bipolar. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
I got taken into hospital, I had a problem with my kidneys and lungs. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Cos I wasn't there to re-sign the new tenancy agreement, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
cos I was in hospital, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
he chucked all my stuff out and rented my room to someone else. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
'I am sure most of these people that are in these high positions' | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
have never bothered getting down and dirty | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
and said, "Why are you on the street?" | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
I am sure half of them could do with doing what I'm going to do, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
go and sleep in a bag beside them. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
You can't get through to a person if they're on the floor and you're standing above them. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
This is my hubby's bathroom. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
I never use a toilet brush. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Although I say it myself, I do excel at cleaning. I know my stuff. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
I got a top paid job on telly. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
It was a major hit, made a few bob, thank you very much. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
I put my hands straight down the toilet... | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
As co-host of How Clean Is Your House? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Kim Woodburn became one of the highest-paid | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
presenters on British television. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
This is my bathroom. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
But she has not forgotten her humble origins. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
I love shells. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
I slept two nights rough when I was a young girl, it was awful. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Because you're homeless, you're not necessarily a bum. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
You can hear the sea. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
I am not going to be a do-gooder. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
There are bums. Look, I'm sorry! | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Trotting around the street with a can of beer and mucking about. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
I have no time for those people. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
But don't stigmatise them all, some of them are all right. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
How do you put up with the cold and that, my love? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
These are hand warmers, OK. Take them out of this packet, put one in. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Ah, bless you! | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
-You will need one under you as well. -Sleep on top of this. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
-What's that...? -That's brand-new, that. -You can't give me that. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
You're all right, honestly. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
Yeah, don't zip up. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Right, and these are going on my feet later | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
because I am going to freeze. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
The two lovely young men that I spoke to, gave me this. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
He said you have to have a sleeping bag on the ground | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
because the cold comes through. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
Right. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
If you find steak, eggs and chips on your travels, don't forget me | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
lying here, starving. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Willie has managed to get some money, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
but is still looking for a place to sleep. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Where would I go now, cos I don't fancy sleeping on the streets? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
Come here, Emma, listen to this man. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
I'm going to sleep rough week, I don't know what to do, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
I don't know where to sleep tonight. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Out here it's not easy. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
-People think it's easy out here, but it's not. -I'm telling you. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
Imagine doing it voluntarily. Hello! Not me. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
The best place I would say is in the church. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
-When I came here, I was... -GLASS SMASHES | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Where did that come from? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
This is the worst area you could have come to. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
MAN SINGS | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
He lives in hospital. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
Adam, stop being stupid! | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
-You take care, nice meeting you. -Bye. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
From what she's telling me, you know, it is | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
a bit dangerous around here, to sleep on the streets. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
So I've got to be honest, I'm a bit reluctant to do so. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
I can't believe how the temperature's dropped from what it was when we first came down. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
So they have decided they are not going for a hostel tonight. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
Maybe the hostels are full. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
Or perhaps there is another reason. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
OK. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
All right, thank you. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
The hostel owner has suggested Julia try his friend's | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
place down the road. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:33 | |
Hi, your friend sent me from around the corner. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
He said that you might have a bed for me for tonight? | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
If I've got money but no ID, that's fine? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
OK, same thing, no ID. So no ID, no bed. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
Being homeless is, even if you have the resources... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
..if you don't have an identity, then... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
..you, you cannot go and stay anywhere. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
But that's what, I suppose being homeless is all about, is you're | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
stripped of every asset that you have and your identity is an asset. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
Should have taken up the guy with the sofa. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Here's my shelter. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
I think the church steps are calling. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
My mind is whirring. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
God knows how I am going to fit in this. Made for dwarves! | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
I can't imagine that you would ever sleep easy. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
It's a tough way to live. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
I think the life expectancy of homeless people is 47. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Less for women. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
This is too uncomfortable. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
Seems to be loads of police cars, ambulances, fire engines going by. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
It is a tough place. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
I don't know how they do it, and I've only been here ten hours or something, whatever it is. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
Hard on this floor, I'm telling you. I haven't slept. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
My God, what a terrible life for people. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
And the people I have spoken to so far, very nice people. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
Kim's not the only one who's up and about. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
She's been approached by an 18-year-old girl | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
who's been on the streets for a year. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
-Are you homeless, seriously? -I swear down, I am. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
-Got into gangs and everything. -Oh, did ya? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Messed it all up and I regretted it | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
and lost both of my kids as well. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
-Your kids?! -Yeah. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
I think you're telling porkies. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
-How many kids have you got? -Two. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
-And how old are you? -18. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
Well, you did mess things up, didn't you? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Nothing you can't put right. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
All right, so are you happy at 18 to live with your boyfriend on the streets? | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
I don't like being on the streets, no. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
All right, what about mum and dad? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
Love and hate relationship between me and my mum. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
We do talk and that, she does want me back, but it is just me. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
It's a little bit hard. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
But listen, my love, there's no future, you living on a street. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
I couldn't go back home, I had a terrible mother. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
She hated me. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
All I got week after week was, "You ugly little cow." | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
And she punished me for that and beat the hell out of me. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
-And I left home. Call your mum. -I definitely will do it. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
I have got some coins here. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Kim was given some money by a passer-by earlier in the evening. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
-Is that 60? -Yeah. I will put that in the phone box. -Go on. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
What I don't understand about that girl is that she has come up | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
and said, "I've got a mum." | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
What is she doing here?! | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
Oh! I've been better. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
I don't think I slept. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
You can feel the cold of the concrete through the cardboard. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
I have just had a few hours at this and you can see just how done in | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and run down you get by all of this. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Ooh! Can I use your bathroom? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
Thank goodness there isn't a mirror in here! | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
-I actually am quite hungry now. -All right, mate, what are you filming? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
We're doing a thing about living on the street. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
-OK, if I was to give you a fiver. -Really? -Yeah, go on. -Are you sure? | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
-Go and have a cup of tea. -Good man. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
But a fiver doesn't go very far. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
Bacon roll, £2.50. I don't think that's great. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Cheese omelette with two Ls, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
omelette doesn't have two Ls, does it? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
I haven't lost all my standards, I won't ever eat at somewhere that | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
spells omelette with two Ls it's just a thing I have(!) | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
This is a pain now. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Nick is heading into the city. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
And now we're seeing more and more people. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
Excuse me, mate. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:28 | |
-Do you know anywhere where I can get anything to eat? -Eat? -Yeah. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
Usually a lot of people give away chicken and rice from around the corner. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
-Down here? -Yeah. -And how long have you been around here? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
I've been here now for three weeks. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
I was at King's Cross, but they said they would give me | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
an ASBO, I can't sit round there no more. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Can you see any way that you won't be on the street in a year's time? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
I don't know, really. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Not unless I get a substantial amount of money given to me | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
so I can put a deposit down on somewhere to rent. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
-Is that what you would like to do? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
-Thanks for talking to me, mate. Good man. -Cheers. -Cheers. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Do you know what, I am such an ignorant bugger, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
-I've chatted to you and I never even asked you your name. -I'm James. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
James, I'm Nick. Good to see you, mate. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
That's terrible of me, I'm so sorry about that. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
-It's OK, quite a few people do it. -I know. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
-But it's not right, is it? -It's all right, mate. -Thanks, James. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
When James says he'd like to save up enough for a deposit on a flat, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:33 | |
then my instinct is to say, that's not going to happen, James. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
It just felt like one of those lies that people tell themselves | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
to make things bearable. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
If he isn't thinking that something can really change, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
what is there to think? | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
So far, all of the volunteers have managed to get | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
money from the public. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Birds. Ah-ah! | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
But for Kim, this only seems to deepen her sense of degradation. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:11 | |
I am a bit depressed, actually. I am a bit fed up. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
You sit there watching the traffic go by and everybody looks at you | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
and you can see what they are thinking. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
Don't they know anyone can be homeless? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
Are they so confident they're always going to have a home | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
and a hubby and a wife. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
My love, it crashes around you. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
When they'd walk past me, I thought, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
"Little do you know I am famous with a few bob, you fat asses," you know. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
To eke out his money, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
Willie has walked three miles to the Ace of Clubs, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
a day centre for the homeless in Clapham... | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
-Veg? -No, thank you. -..where he can get lunch for a pound. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
-How did this happen? -Gambling. -Ah! | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
It's a bit of a shock to the system, isn't it, when you first | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
go on the street, I have never been on the street before, you know. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
After an anxious first night, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
he is hoping to find somewhere safer to sleep. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
At night, if you are asleep, you are a target. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
I stay awake at night to try and get a kip during the day. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
It's safer during the day. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
-Are you London based? Is that where you're from? -No. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
-Originally from Coventry. -Oh, Coventry, I'm next-door, Leicester. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
They're playing Chelsea tonight, so I want to watch that game, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-cheer me up a little bit. -I reckon they should beat them. -I hope so. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
-Don't bet. -Oh, no. I have finished betting, thank you. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
-No money for betting. -I am retired. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
I just need to catch up on a little bit of sleep. I am so tired. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
My legs are aching, my body's aching. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
I don't know if this is one of those recliners, is it? | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
No. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
But, gee-whiz! | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:28:03 | 0:28:04 | |
Kim has gone to look for Ayisha to find out | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
if she made contact with her mum. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
-What happened? -I went to the phone box, phoned my mum, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
-she'll put money into my account tomorrow. -Are you really going? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
Yeah, I am. I phoned my mum and everything. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
She said she is putting money into my account. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
-What did she say when you called her? -Nothing. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
She was happy to hear I was going home. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
What?! Your little face. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
-Good luck, darling, good luck. -Thank you. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Do you know, I am not sure she is going to do this, you know. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
It has all fallen into place so quickly, hasn't it? | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
I'd like to think that she was, but I don't know. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
Willie has managed to get a couple of hours' sleep. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Unfortunately for him, the Ace of Clubs shuts for the night. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Ah! | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
But instead of finding a place to bed down, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Willie has something else in mind. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
I've still got £12, I am going to sit down and have a Coke | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
and watch Leicester and Chelsea. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
I've got the feeling that you're angling for a non-homeless | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
night as Willie Thorne. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
I mean, obviously it would be nice just to sit in a chair for a couple | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
of hours, have a Coke and a packet of crisps and watch the match. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Girls? I'm really sorry to bother you. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
-I'm afraid I don't actually have any cash on me. -All right. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
Well, thank you very much anyway. Thanks for listening. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
This feels so wrong. You just feel bad asking for money. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
It's all about your conviction and I don't have the conviction tonight. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
Why on earth am I doing this? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
And I'm completely knackered. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
I'm upset to be broken so quickly. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
I am not looking forward to lying down on a concrete floor again, I have to say. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
KIM WHISTLES TO HERSELF | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Whistling. # It's hard life... # | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
SHE HUMS REST OF THE MELODY | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
-# It's a hard life. -# | 0:30:17 | 0:30:18 | |
And with a spell of rain on the way, it's about to get harder. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
Bunk beds! | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
-# ..Small pleasures, who would deny us them? -Not me...! # | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
Some guys over there. Competition tonight. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Does that smell of fish? | 0:30:36 | 0:30:37 | |
Go on, let's have one more. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
This is soaking. Look at this, absolutely drenched. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
It's started to come through, it's cold. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Go on, son. Ooh! | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
I'm sorry to bother you. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
# It's a fine line.... # | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
There we go. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:55 | |
It's all right, I just wondered if you had any change. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
English change? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
I tell you what, years from now everybody will be sleeping in something like that. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
Look. A whole new mattress. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:11 | |
Top of the league. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
Well, this is a bit wet, isn't it? Let's go and have a look around. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
I have become a bag lady! | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
Supper! | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
I am not in the right place, am I? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Well, I'm damned. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
I don't know where I am. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
Kim's not the only one struggling to find her bearings. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
After spending three hours in the pub, Willie is cold, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
wet and in need of a place to sleep. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
I'm pretty tired now, to be perfectly honest. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
I don't know whether to go this way or that way, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
I don't know kind of the best way to go. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Maybe this way. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
I am just going to go and have a look at this church and see if there | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
is any spaces round there I can get somewhere in the dry, you know. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
The dry has already been taken. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
There's five people round there and, er, there's | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
a few people with drinks and things. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
So I am not going to feel safe staying there. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
So we need to move on somewhere else. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
I think there is a little church somewhere, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
but I don't know exactly where it is. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
Right, where are we going? | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
That's information you need to find out before you... | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
Well, I'm not in the mood to be fucked about while it's raining, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
so...either get on a bus and we go back to where I was going, or we find it. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
I haven't got a phone or anything and this time of night, I don't | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
want to be asking people. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
I don't even know what the church is called. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
This is not a fucking game, you don't take the piss. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Well, we're not. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
Well, you are now. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
Excuse me, is Brixton this way? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
OK, thank you. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:05 | |
Willie has returned to the same noisy church steps that he | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
failed to sleep on last night. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Talk to me in the morning. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:17 | |
I am too old and long in the tooth to be fucked about. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
And Nick has returned to the alleyway he slept in yesterday... | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
Excuse me?! | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
..but this time has company. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
A little bit more lively tonight. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-Excuse me. -SIREN WAILS, WOMAN SHOUTS | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
I'm worried about this lady. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
I have met a lot of people who need help, but she needs help now. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
-Ooh! -My first instinct is to try | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
and get through tonight which is terrible. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
You know, where's the milk of human kindness in that? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Maybe that's just a coward's way out. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
SHE SHOUTS | 0:34:11 | 0:34:12 | |
SIRENS CONTINUE BLARING | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
I can't believe how much activity there is at night. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
And also I had my first witness of two people smoking crack cocaine, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
which I had never seen before. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
You have do this to know what it's like. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
Like I have said so many times, "how sad to be homeless." | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
But I didn't know just how sad | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
because I am just about in the biggest mess I've ever been in. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
Last night I found this just here. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
A little bangle with "faith" written on it. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
I'm not sure if there's a time limit on this day care centre, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
I don't know if you have to be there for a certain time. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
I might be a bit late, but let's see. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
Julia is heading to a day centre in Camden. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
She's hoping to get a shower and some hot food. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
Hi, there. Hello. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:26 | |
It's not a spa, but I'll take it. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
Bye. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:35 | |
How are you doing? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
-Cool! -Sorry, did I interrupt? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
No, it's all right. No, come. How are you doing. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
-Nice to meet you. How are you doing? -Fine. -Sit down. What are you up to? | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
Three days? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
So you've then sleeping rough up till then? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
-I'm a binge drinker. I don't really drink, I get hammered every now and again. -Right. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
Drugs - I've done every drug there is. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
At the moment I am addicted to Spice, a legal high. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
Most of the homeless people are. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
It's ruining us. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
What is it? | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
It's synthetic cannabis. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
You seem in control, to me, now. And it all seems pretty good. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
Are you having a good moment in the day, or...? | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
-I've met Julia Bradbury, I'm buzzing! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
I used to have rows with my cellmate in prison. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
He'd want to watch EastEnders. I'd say, "No." Or Coronation Street. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
I'd say, "No, I said I'm watching Countryfile. Honestly, I'm watching Countryfile." I loved it. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
Well, I'm pleased, I was in your cell with you, keeping you company. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
I have something called DSPD, it's Dangerous Severe Personality Disorder. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
-There's two of me. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the good one. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
I'm quite happy with the good one. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
I'm a bit frightened about the bad one. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
Stephen has spent ten of the last 12 years in prison, for robbery and GBH. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
He's offered to show Julia around for the afternoon. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
Before going to his favourite begging spot in Holborn... | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
-Ah, so tools of the trade. -..he changes into a scruffier coat. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
This one is ripped. It's messed up. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
-Look at you. -I'm sorry, but you have to survive, innit? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
You've got to survive, yeah. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:21 | |
Hello mate, got a spare cigarette, please? | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
-Oh, no, oh, no, oh, no. -What, what, what? | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
-Hello! -Hi, how are you doing? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Stephen is known to the local street wardens who regularly move him on. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
What are you begging for now? | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Cos you've got a bed and you've got food. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
Since I have moved into that house, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
I have only begged a couple of times. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
I feel guilty cos I have got a sign that says I am homeless | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
and I am not any more. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
But I am still not receiving benefits, so I need ... | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
-Yeah, I understand why you need... -Cigarettes and Spice. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
The legal high, Spice, is highly addictive | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
and has taken hold across the homeless community. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
Any spare change? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
Any spare change at all? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
The frightening thing is not seeing something you don't recognise, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
the frightening thing is seeing something you do recognise! | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
Last night there was a woman who was clearly mentally ill in Dalston | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
and I can think of nights I might have looked a bit like that. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
If that's part of a pattern, probably too far. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
I think, you know... I think I have issues with alcohol | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
and it's something I would like to sort out. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
It's been... | 0:38:43 | 0:38:44 | |
I come from a generation where it's | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
so central to nearly everything that I have ever done. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
I mean from the age of 14. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:52 | |
If I look at myself I think, you know... | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
This is, there is...too much going on, you know. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
And, you know, and a bit bored of it. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
That's enough exegesis! | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
After a second sleepless night, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
Willie has returned to the Ace of Clubs in Clapham. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
I can't tell you how much I'm struggling at the minute. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
I know that if I have another night like this, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
I might not last the trip. So it's a must that I get some sleep tonight. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
Because I don't want to quit. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Oooh. Oh, dear. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
His struggles have not gone unnoticed by the staff. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
-I'm Steps. -Nice to see you. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
-You have been invited to sleep where I sleep tonight. -Where is that? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
-At the church. -It's dry there, is it? -It's dry. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
Depends on the direction of the wind. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
So let's walk. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
Steps is 58 and has been sleeping rough for the last five months. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
The staff at the Ace of Clubs know him well | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
and often ask him to look out for inexperienced | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
rough sleepers like Willie. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:05 | |
The church is over here. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
He plans to go to the church that Willie felt was too risky to | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
stay at the night before. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
We looked at that last night and there was, people who were | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
sleeping out last night who seemed to be a bit drunk. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
Is that going to be the case tonight? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
That's always the case, but that's what's to be expected. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
When I get there, I want to go to sleep. Whether or not that's going to be the case or not... | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
Listen, whatever happens, Steps, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
I'll mosey over there at nine, ten o'clock. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
Thanks, Steps, thank you. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
I don't know what he's planning, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:41 | |
but he's trying to escape from the reality of it all. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
I went to that place last night. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
And there were fucking alcoholics everywhere. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
You know, I don't feel safe there. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
SIRENS BLARE | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
Yeah, but Dave... | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
You know, I'm doing this because I wanted to do it. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
But you are not helping at the minute, you know. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
You are not helping at the minute. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
Don't look at me done out, Dave, or else I will fuck off! | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Leave it with me, I'll be fine. I'll be on the street, don't worry. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:20 | |
-You might have to wait in reception for five minutes. -Yup. That's all right. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
Stephen has invited Julia back to his room, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
in a hostel for the homeless in Camden. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
-This is the humble abode. -Yeah. That's a nice size, isn't it? | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
Oh, there is a bed. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
-Is it comfortable? -No, it's too soft! | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
Ooh! | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
So you've been sleeping rough since May. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
It all happened really quickly. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
They assessed that my needs were higher than some people, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
so they put me in here, which is good. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
What have you agreed to do to keep the room? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
I've agreed to sort my shit out. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
I'm in Camden, it's Spice town. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
The biggest obstacle facing Stephen now is his addiction to Spice. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
Previously, his mother has helped him to go cold turkey. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
She won't do it again though, that's the thing. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
But you've got a really good moment now to speak to your mum, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
because you've done this and you say, "Look, I just don't want to fuck this up. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
"I need you to do... This is what I need to do and this is what I want to do. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
"Please help me one last time because this is what's at stake." | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
I'll talk to her if you want. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
Kim is looking for Ayisha again. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
Where's our little girl? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
Ayisha's called her mum, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
but doesn't feel comfortable living with her at this time. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
She's still sleeping rough on the streets. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
I said you told pork pies. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
Some people are a waste of my time and space | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
and will be on the streets forever, because you can't be bothered. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
You're a disgrace, what you're doing to your mother. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
And I hope she never forgives you because you're a little horror! | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
Bloody swines! | 0:43:20 | 0:43:21 | |
She said she loved her mum dearly. Her mum adored her. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
And her mum would have back tomorrow. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
What did I do, I said, "Go on, go on - do it now." Oh! | 0:43:30 | 0:43:35 | |
It's just a pack of lies. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
-Oh, my God. Thanks, my love. -All right. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
Oh, you little tinker! | 0:43:42 | 0:43:43 | |
Do you see what I am saying? | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
They are in a predicament, but they are lovely. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
Heck of a lot different to that girl. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
All right. Who put in danger here? She did. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
What, are you God? | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
You won't change her. She's a wild one. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
You'll always think, "Why did you turn out like this? | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
"We love you, we love you now. You can't live with us. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
"You're killing us." | 0:44:09 | 0:44:10 | |
And many a parent's said that. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
It's the same as... You know what's so strange to imagine, when you get divorced. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
You meet a person, OK. And it's a wonderful courtship. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
And within a year, you stand in a court room... | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
and that man doesn't even look at you. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
He doesn't look at you. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
And his girlfriend's waiting outside who's half your age. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
And you think of all the times you had together with him. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
It annihilates you. I can't do that. I can't do that. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
I can't let anybody do that to me. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
It's the same with a child. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
Oh, absolutely. I was a broken woman. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:54 | |
We're waiting for Willie, who is down at the McDonald's, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
to come down so we can find out what his beef is. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
For the past two hours, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:15 | |
Willie has been threatening to pull out and go home. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
When you're down, when you're tired, you want to find somebody to blame. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
Defining yourself by the failures of others | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
is quite a neat little trick. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
The unfortunate thing is it never takes you anywhere, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
it never gets you to look at who you are, what you're going through | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
and what you need to do. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:36 | |
I said, from the very beginning, this is going to be really, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
really difficult and uncomfortable. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
-I just need a little bit of time off. -What is time off for you? | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
I don't know. I mean just somewhere I can have a kip. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
I'm a man with no kip. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:52 | |
-This guy has been trying to help him all day. Just there. -Where is he? | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
-Hello there. -How are you. -How are you, yeah. -I'm one of the homeless. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
Today I have encountered him. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
I've been asked to look after him, keep them under my wing... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
That's brilliant. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
I have been sleeping under the church... | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
Like I said, last night it wasn't safe, tonight it is. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
And I've had to walk three miles last night to get to Brixton... | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
One of the fundamental points that you're making | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
there are about, "I've had to walk three miles," | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
-I have had to walk ten, 15, 20 fucking miles... -I know what you're saying. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
No, there's nothing to say. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
You are incorrect in your speech. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
-We come from a life... -I know. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
..at home, to try and live a life of like you are. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
I come from a life of home. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
-I am 58 years old. -But you have been on the streets for a while, I've not. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
That's irrelevant! | 0:46:36 | 0:46:37 | |
I've had money, I've had businesses, I've been married, I've got kids, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
I've got grandchildren. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:42 | |
Let's get some substance about ourselves now. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
-OK, I finished. -Fundamentally you're missing the point, big-time. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
I've been talked down to by everybody. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:57 | |
The only thing in his defence, I would say, is he has been totally | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
and utterly blown away by this experience. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
Why am I being made out to be the bad guy here? | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
Nobody's made you out to be the bad guy. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
Let me have a night off, and I'll be fine at eight o'clock in the morning. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
It would be much better if you did stay with him tonight. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
I know that, Steps, and I am very sorry. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
But you don't know what's happened. Only the last ten minutes. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
I know what's happened in the last five months of my life, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
and I've been sleeping on the streets. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
Thank you very much, thank you. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
Willie is going to get the night off that he craves. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
Willie is a person who has always, as far as I can understand, | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
been surrounded by comfort. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
And if you take that person and you put them | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
and you dump them on the streets, it's really difficult to bounce up. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
I'm sure I'll be all right tomorrow because my head is hurting. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
I am knackered. And I need a bath. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
My feet were swelling up, that one's not quite as swollen up as much, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
but look how that's swelled up. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
It's only a shower not a bath, but that'll be perfect. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
Think it's time you went. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
It's showers too for the volunteers who remain on the streets. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
Look, it's coming all through here. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
I wondered why it was wet. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:24 | |
I'm down to a plastic bag and now it is raining all over me. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
I hate it! | 0:48:30 | 0:48:31 | |
The water finds its way down and then drops in my face. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
Look how wet that is already. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
There's a bloke who's begging | 0:48:39 | 0:48:40 | |
and he might be able to give me a bit of advice. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
Do you know anywhere good around here to bed down? | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
I'm fine mate, how are you? | 0:48:49 | 0:48:50 | |
Hello, lovely. You all right? | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
-Is that a good place? -Yeah. -Are you going to be my guide? | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
-I can show you. -Cheers, mate. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
-Thank you. -Come on then. -Good lad. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
Thank you. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:05 | |
-It's just down over here. -Right then. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
-And in here, you can get some more cardboard. -Oh, wow. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
And it's all fresh and clean. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
I am so glad I have met you. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
Right, I'm following you. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
Oh, look at that. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:20 | |
I am having a bit of a trouser malfunction. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
I'll get moved on for indecent exposure, never mind anything else. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
-How long have you been sleeping...? -On and off, seven years now. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
Wow, really? It's this that I miss. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
Having a conversation with somebody, do you know what I mean? | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
-This is what I call home. -Oh, right. This is great. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
You are a wonderful, wonderful person. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Do you want a drink? I've got orange juice. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
I've got some water. That's one thing I have been lucky about... | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
I'll be back in a bit, don't worry, I'll be back. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
-Thank you. -All right, see you soon. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:54 | |
-See you, lovely. -Bye! | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
Oh, my word! | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
Oh! | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Just... | 0:50:01 | 0:50:02 | |
She'd never met me before and she just... Giving, you know, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
full of advice, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
comfort. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
And you know, I really want to, one, sleep and two, have a good | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
chat with them tomorrow if you know they feel able and happy to do it. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
He's been really incredible, he's been really helpful, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
he's been very open as well. All right, thank you. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
Julia has convinced Stephen to call his mum again. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
And ask if she will help them to break his Spice addiction. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
I think we might have to book a weekend in a Holiday Inn somewhere, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
just for three days so I can knock me on the Spice. Yeah, I promise. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
All right. Thanks. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:08 | |
All right, love you loads. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
All right, thank you very much. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
All right, love you. Bye. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:18 | |
Right, she's going to do it as well. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
-Of course she is. -Jeez! | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
-Faith. -I think maybe now is the handover time, actually. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
-It's a bit girlie, though, isn't it? -It's all right, it's not girlie. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
Come on. There you go. That's it. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
-It is wet, Julia. -I know. Right, I'm coming down. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
-Where did you get the carpet from? -A skip. -A skip? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
The first bits are wet, so... | 0:51:54 | 0:51:55 | |
Not that bit. It's quite a good carpet. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Stephen has gone to find some extra cardboard. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
It's been really amazing meeting him. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
In one way he's been given this golden ticket | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
cos he has got a really good room in a very good hostel. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
But I'm a mother and if he was my son, I would be distraught because | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
there is no polite way of saying this, I am sorry, he has fucked up. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
Yeah, I think she is helping me more than she knows. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
For one, I would not have asked my mum to help me get off the Spice again. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:30 | |
She seems very caring. She's got a mothering instinct, definitely. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
But this is his fight, this is his battle | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
and it's his family's situation. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
My knight in shining armour, look at that. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
-So, has it been a good day today? -Been a brilliant day. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
Very constructive. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:48 | |
I smoked the least amount of Spice I've smoked for months. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
There's a lot of thinking time when you're homeless. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
A lot of thinking time. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
Let me get myself dressed. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
Before heading off, Nick wants to find out a bit more about how | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
Becky and Sam ended up on the streets. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
I was in care, got moved around a lot. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
I met Sam and that and then I thought, obviously | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
when you hit 18, they're meant to find you a flat | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
and they said basically they'd help me but they wouldn't help Sam. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
When you sort of set off, what were you imagining you were going to? | 0:53:36 | 0:53:41 | |
Didn't know. We just thought any life must be better than what we had. So... | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
-Sorry... -So you went off. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
This has been hard where we can't be together. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
Lots of times they keep on trying to break us up and it's just... | 0:53:51 | 0:53:56 | |
Is that because... | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
You know, there isn't... | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
It's more easy for them to look after one person on their own. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
-If you want to be with Sam, this is your option. -This is it. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
We should go and find him, only because I am conscious he is | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
probably waiting for us out there and it's cold and it's wet. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
-How are you? -How are you doing? | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
-You really saved my bacon last night, mate. -It's cool, mate. I am glad. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
-Cheers, you look after yourself, OK? -Yeah. -See you, Hooch. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
At least you're one of these people. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:31 | |
I've heard of people who've done a programme before, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
and haven't had the balls and gone in a hotel. You know? | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
Oh! I'm still a little bit lame. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
Great to meet you. Best of luck to you too, huh? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
Keep that head. Think about stuff. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:50 | |
Enough. Enough tears. I'm fine. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
-See you later. Good luck. -Thank you. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
-Take care, mate. -See you, bye. -See you. Bye-bye. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
Becky and Sam are two people who have shown me | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
more generosity in their own way than nearly anybody I've ever met. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
I can't think of people who have offered me | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
so much of what little they have, so readily. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:18 | |
I am not a man who wells up particularly easily, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
there are tears in my eyes. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
But my, my stoic-ness and Englishness is stopping them dropping out of there. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:32 | |
Sport Relief money it is at work tonight all across the UK. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
It is supporting the homeless, not just to survive, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
but to get off the streets. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
Giving people like these a chance to rebuild their lives. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
You can make a real difference to people who have lost their homes. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
To make a donation... | 0:55:50 | 0:55:51 | |
I came across a girl, 18. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
I said, you are a lazy little bum. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
The volunteers are halfway through the experience... | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Kim, I am going to cut you dead there. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
I believe that everybody is redeemable. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
-Piffle! -..and John is putting each of them with a homeless buddy. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:42 | |
-I've been in prison and... -What were you in prison for, if you don't mind me asking? | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
-I'd rather not talk about it. -To get a deeper understanding... | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
When you have to walk into this room, what do you think? | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
You get a big sinking feeling in your heart. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
..of the obstacles facing Britain's homeless. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
-All right, I'll be back in a minute. -All right. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
He's a heroin addict. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
Now he's about to puke and shit his self. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
The answer isn't just housing, it isn't just money, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
it isn't just counselling. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
She's totally stubborn. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:11 | |
I don't think I am like her. I think what a bloody cheek. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
And to realise just how precarious their own lives of wealth | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
-and luxury... -I would go round tickety-boo, everybody thinks... | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
everything's fine, but it's not. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
-..really are. -I might do this more often. Not! | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 |