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-Everything has an impact on your life. -Whatever your age. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
From the type of house we live in... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
Oh, this looks nice. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Yes, it's been completely renovated throughout. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
..To how much money we have to spend. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Your wage ends up being like a normal working wage, which is good. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
What we put in our bodies... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
I don't think I've ever been fat, but I have put weight on. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
..To the secrets of our genetic make-up. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
You're going to live to be 140. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
That'll do, I'll take everything I can get. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
So finding out about all those things and more could help you mature brilliantly. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:35 | |
Or slow down the ageing process just a little. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
We've tracked down the very best tips and advice | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
for holding back the years. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
And now, with the help of our team, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
we're going to pass them on to you. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
To show you how to have the time of your life. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Whenever that may be. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
Hello and welcome to the show that really wants to put time on your side. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
Whatever age you are. Here's what's on today's show. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
More of us are choosing equity release as a way of injecting cash | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
into our retirement than ever before, but is it right for you? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
Bill is on the case. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
When it comes to equity release not all experiences are the same | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
or even equal. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
Our resident GP Dr Rangan Chatterjee reveals how you can save a friend's life, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:25 | |
wherever you may be. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
You get to go home at the end of this. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
Your actions may well result in the person lying on the ground also | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
getting to go home. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
Do you find it harder to keep the weight off as you get older? | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Well, it might not totally be your fault. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
I went to Birmingham to find out the latest research on middle-age spread. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
And you start putting it on and you think, "Where is this tyre coming from?" | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
And the tyre gets bigger and bigger. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
And we go behind the scenes of the country's first intergenerational care home | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
to see how the old and the young are looking after each other. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
They brighten up the whole room. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Just to watch their characters, the way they change, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
the way they are comfortable with you. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
It's like being in childhood. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
Last year more people signed up to an equity release scheme than ever | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
before. It's a trend that's only set to increase in 2018. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
And the reason is that it's seen by more and more people as a way of | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
injecting money into their own retirement while freeing up cash | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
for, say, children or grandchildren. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
But is it right for you? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
Well, Bill has been meeting two women whose experience is far from equal. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
Being able to afford a comfortable retirement is usually pretty high up | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
on the list of priorities, no matter what age we are. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Unfortunately, according to official statistics, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Britain's workers can look forward to the worst pension of any major | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
developed country. However, there is one thing in our favour. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
Around 65% of us own a property. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Which is why equity release has become the latest trend for those | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
who want to inject some cash into their lives. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
But how does it work? | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
If you've paid off your mortgage, or nearly paid it off, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
you can borrow money based on the equity in your home. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
In other words, the amount of money that your house is worth. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
You get a lump sum in the here and now, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
and the money you've borrowed is paid back on the sale of the property, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
which will only happen if you go into full-time care or you're not around any more. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
The thing you need to remember though is that the company | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
lending you the money will charge interest on what you've borrowed, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
all of which is repaid on the sale of your home. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
Your family gets what is left. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Well, that's the theory. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
But how does it play out in real life? | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
We've met up with two people, Helen and Barbara, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
for whom the experience of equity release was very different. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
So let's start with a positive experience, shall we? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
I moved down from London 31 years ago and 12 years ago my husband | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
and I got divorced and we couldn't sell the property, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
so we decided to have it made into two maisonettes, which we have, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
and he lives upstairs and I live downstairs, so very happy with it. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
It's worked out very well. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
And it was about to work out even better because with her newly found | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
independence and an asset that was all her own, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Helen felt that her flat wasn't a golden egg which should be sat on | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
indefinitely. Rather, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
she viewed it as an asset | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
which could be used to help the younger generation. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
Well, my son | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
got married and they are renting and I think it's wasted money, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
so I got in touch with a company to come and talk to us both of the | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
benefits of equity release. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
The idea was to release equity from the flat in order to for her son | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
to get on the property ladder. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
The criteria for Helen to qualify for what is known as a lifetime mortgage | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
included her age, her health, and the value of her house. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
But this is no ordinary mortgage, as Helen explains. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
You don't pay anything at all. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:17 | |
It just rolls over. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
You get a yearly account of how much it is. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
They tell you the final amount, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
which, when you look at it, can be quite worrying, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
but you have to realise you are not paying this - | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
this is all dealt with at the end. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Helen released 39% of the value of her home, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
giving her son £60,000 to get on the property ladder, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
and £20,000 for herself. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
I'm so glad I could help my son. Peace of mind for me, too. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
I love my holidays, so I know that I can carry on having holidays. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
I haven't had a mortgage for a long time. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
I'm not paying anything now that I wasn't before. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
I just, everything is the same except that I've got a bit of money and I've helped my son. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
So it's all good news, right? Well, hold on, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
because when it comes to equity release, not all experiences are the same or even equal. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:05 | |
Barbara Gale from Sherston in Wiltshire has worried since signing | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
her contract that she might have made the wrong decision. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
It's important to say I did go into it with my eyes wide open. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
At the time it seemed like easy money. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
But now I'm six years down the road I realise that easy money it may be, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:25 | |
but you pay quite a price. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
When she was 62, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
Barbara released £32,000 for home improvements and to help her son, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
and today, with compound interest, that loan is worth £49,000. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:42 | |
How much I'll actually end up owing on my equity release depends on how | 0:06:45 | 0:06:51 | |
old I am when I die, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
but if I were to live until my 90s I would owe all of the house. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
It would all be gone. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
In fact it would be about half a million pounds, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
which is far more than the house is actually worth. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Like many in her situation, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
Barbara spent the greater part of her working life paying the mortgage | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
in order to own her home outright. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
Now she's faced with the prospect of leaving a large debt behind her. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
I just can't get my head around that I fought for many, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
many years to pay a mortgage on this little property of mine, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
and it does seem to me that all that effort into finding a job, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
keeping the house, paying the mortgage, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
has all kind of gone south, because I took out the equity release on | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
my home and I could end up paying all that money back | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
to the equity release company and leaving nothing for my family. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
For Barbara, short of winning the lottery | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
to pay off this lifetime mortgage, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
there is very little she can do to change her current situation, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
which leads to very, very dark thoughts. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
I do feel pretty awful. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
It makes me actually feel, well, I hope I die sooner rather than later, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
which is a bit of a sad way to be going along, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
but if I die when in my mid-80s at least there will be | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
probably about half the house left that I can pass on, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
which is the only thing I have to pass on. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
So two stories of equity release and two very different outcomes. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Which do you take notice of? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I'm going to need a referee. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
Financial expert Jasmine Birtles, founder of the Money Magpie website, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
has spent a long time looking at the pros and cons of equity release. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
Jasmine, what are the pitfalls of equity release? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
You think you're taking out a certain amount of money and then, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
because of the compounding interest, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
over the years it mushrooms into a huge amount. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
And since you're not paying anything back, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
that debt is getting bigger all the time. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
Yes, exactly. Although over just a few years you might not notice very | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
much of a difference. Once you get to at least five, ten years, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
then you really do see a difference, year on year. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
It's growing very fast. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
And that can be made worse by the fact that interest rates | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
in equity release can be higher than with normal loans or mortgages, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
which means that if you take out equity release too early | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
you could end up with a massive debt on your hands, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
with no means of paying it off | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
except any savings you might have tucked away. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
So who would equity release work for then, do you think? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
People who are probably older, and when I say older, I would say 70 plus. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:52 | |
Ideally they don't have children, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
so their children are not expecting some sort of an inheritance. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
If they don't have extra money then equity release is a really good way | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
of using the money from your home but still living in it. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
And what sort of people need to be wary of getting equity release? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
Younger people, and when I say younger, 55, to 60, for example, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
because you could be lasting for 20, 30, 40 years at least there. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
So it's really not a helpful thing to take money out of your home | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
and have it increasing. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
And there is one other downside to equity release that Jasmine wants to | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
highlight. Once you take it out, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
it could stop you from moving house ever again, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
or indeed prohibit others from living in the house once you've gone. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
One of the problems I think of equity release is that certain people have | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
found that they are basically trapped in their own home and later on, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
if they thought of actually moving to a smaller, easier, cheaper place, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
they can't, because the amount that their equity release debt has grown | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
by has meant that they have very little money left, if any at all. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
So what's your advice then to anybody thinking of taking on equity release? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
Go to somebody who's independent, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
who will look at your whole life, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
at your family and all of the things that are affecting your life, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
and then tell you whether it is a good idea or not, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
and, if so, what sort of plan you should take out. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
So I guess the main bit of advice we can offer is get advice, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
because once you take out equity release there's no turning back. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
For information and a list of companies and prices, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
you can go to the Equity Release Council. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
They provide quality and standards guidelines for product providers to | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
protect the consumer. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Also it's important to discuss this with your nearest and dearest, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
because ultimately it does affect them as well. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
But we'll leave the last word to those who have been there. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
If you really need some money or feel like you need to release some money, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
or you need to help children out, it's well worth looking into. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
If you're going to do it, leave it until you're a bit older. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
I did it aged 62. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
I wish I could have left it maybe until I was 72. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
We've asked GP Rangan Chatterjee to be our doctor on your doorstep. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
His job throughout the series is to inform and inspire us to better health and longer life. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:27 | |
So today, he's looking at how to restart a broken heart. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Today, I'm in Cheltenham to meet Chris Hickey and his wife, Sue. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Like more than 30,000 Brits, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Chris suffered what's called an out of hospital cardiac arrest last year, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
but what makes his story truly extraordinary is for just how long his heart had stopped. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
So how long did your heart stop beating for? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
68 minutes in the end. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
-Over an hour. -That's a long time. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
It's a long time. It's really hard to understand how I can be here. | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
I still can't believe that, actually - | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
68 minutes is such an incredibly long period of time. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
And yet it was what Sue did in the initial five minutes that ultimately | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
saved Chris's life. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Sue, what's your recollection of that day? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
I was downstairs, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
it was our last day of work before we were due to go on holiday and I'd | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
got up early. It was a lovely summer's day and I just heard this kind of coughing sound. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
I suddenly realised it was Chris, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
so I charged up the stairs into our bedroom. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
It wasn't a regular coughing sound? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
No. I knew he was dying, and I witnessed my father's death | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
and he was making that kind of death-rattly sound. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
I literally stood there and had a moment of real sheer panic. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
"I can't do this, I'm not expert." | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
"I'm not trained." | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
"I don't know what to do." | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Incredibly, earlier that morning Sue had read a medical article that | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
advised people not to panic or seek help outside the house, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
but instead to call 999 immediately, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
and when she called she got clear, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
precise and ultimately life-saving instructions. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Opened the front door, so first responders could get in, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
get Chris onto the floor, a hard surface basically, and start CPR. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
I said, "I don't know, I don't know how to do it, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
"I've never been on a course." | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
"I'll tell you, I'll tell you what to do." | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
But she was about to go on a very fast learning curve. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
CPR stands for cardiopulmonary resuscitation, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
and here's how it works. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Basically the heart is a pump, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
but if the pump is not working on its own then CPR means you work it | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
manually using your hands on the chest. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
This keeps the blood circulating through the heart and around the body, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
ensuring that oxygen continues to feed the brain and vital organs, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
and crucially it's the first five minutes that count most | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
when it comes to getting that blood flowing | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
until the professionals can turn up to take over. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
The fireman had come in. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
-The fireman came. -Then the paramedics. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
-Then the paramedics. -Then an air ambulance arrived. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-Yes. -And a doctor came. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
A doctor and a nurse came with them. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
And then did you feel that they were there, they are going to take over? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
-Yeah. -Paramedics will sort this out now. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
The doctor attempted to start Chris's heart | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
by sending electric shocks to it via a defibrillator, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
but Chris wasn't responding and he doctor told Sue it was time to take | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
that terrible decision we all dread. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
I had a picture on the fridge which I showed him and I just said, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
just keep going a bit longer, this is, you know, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
a much-loved man. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
They went back upstairs and tried for another ten or 12 minutes, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
and it's in that time Chris came back. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
You know? | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
What a blessing. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
And it's wonderful, wonderful. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Surviving 68 minutes without a well- functioning heart is pretty much | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
unheard of, yet Chris managed it, and there's two main reasons for that. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
Firstly, Sue called 999, but secondly, Chris got CPR. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
Now CPR was given for five minutes by Sue and then followed up by the | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
paramedics, and what it does is, it keeps the oxygen and the blood | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
pumping around your body to your vital organs | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
and in particular your brain, and there's absolutely no reason | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
that you can't learn to do the same as well. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
A recent poll showed that two-thirds of us would not know what to do | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
if faced with a cardiac arrest. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
But that could be about to change - | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
certainly if training programmes like this | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
have anything to do with it. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
This is the Eurospa in Maghaberry, Northern Ireland, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
where they are pumping their staff full of life-saving CPR lessons. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
Today, Alana is being shown how easy it is | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
by trainer and paramedic Mark Bailey, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
and he's brought a little friend. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
So we're looking for the V coming up the ribcage, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
coming up to that point. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
We'll put two fingers above that. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
That then is where the heel of our first hand is going to go and then | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
the second hand will go on top of the first hand. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Our elbows are locked and our shoulders will be directly above our hands. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
So we need to compress 120 times a minute, that's twice every second. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
So it's... | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
Any situation at all where the patient has actually had a cardiac arrest, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
CPR will be vital. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
For people who have choked and have not been able to get the foreign body dislodged, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:51 | |
anaphylaxis, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
where somebody has effectively suffocated or choked because the airways are blocked, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
that patient will also go into cardiac arrest, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
so any of those kind of situations basically where the patient has | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
stopped breathing for themselves, CPR is going to be indicated. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
So successful has the course been that the company's managers have | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
even installed their own network of on-site defibrillators, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
which makes survival rates rise from less than 10% up to 70%, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
if a defibrillator is used | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
within the first three to five minutes of collapse. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
And now it's time for Alana to get a crash course in how to use that. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
Apply pads to bare skin exactly as shown in the pictures. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
Quite often people will be scared and at the end of the course everybody is a lot happier. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
We find that the underpinning knowledge about why you're doing | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
what you're doing definitely produces better results. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
Everyone clear. Press flashing button. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Shock delivered. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
ALANA: You know, people in the community should all learn how to take part in this | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
as it was a lot easier than what I had expected and it will also help to save a life. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:05 | |
And Mark has first-hand knowledge. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Lives have been saved. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
A lady had collapsed in a pharmacy in east Belfast and the staff knew | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
that the Henderson store just down the road had a defib. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
They sent somebody off to get it while compressions were being done | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
and we got the report the next day that she was sitting up, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
slightly sore chest, but well, in her hospital bed. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
There's no point in running about like a headless chicken. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
It's easier said than done, of course, for people who aren't used to this. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
But really, taking two or three seconds | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
just to focus your mind on what it is you are doing, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
you get to go home at the end of this. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:42 | |
Your actions may well result in the person lying on the ground | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
also getting to go home. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
And CPR doesn't just ensure that heart attack victims get to go home. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
It also helps them make a full recovery. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
When Chris Hickey's heart stopped beating for 68 minutes, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
doctors were certain the lack of oxygen would leave him with brain damage. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
But the efforts of his wife Sue and the paramedics ensured that even that did not happen. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
And it has given him a second chance to make sure that it never happens again. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
Do you come here quite a bit? Are you in good physical shape? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
Yeah, I am now. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
When I came out of hospital, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
the day after I came out was the first day we came up here. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
You came up here the day after? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
-Wow! -The day after, because the doctor said, "Look, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
"you've really got to take exercise, you've got to get out, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
-"you've got to..." -Start your life again. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Start your life again. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
Do you take physical activity quite seriously now? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
-Yeah. -Each day we try and go a bit further. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
You see, I had a sense that you are getting back to who you were. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Chris owes a huge debt to the professionals | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
who worked to save his life, but none of it would have been possible | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
without the role his wonderful wife Sue played | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
in those first five key minutes, when she called 999, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
delivered CPR and didn't panic. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
That first critical few minutes was what it took, right? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Someone to have the courage to not be put off and not think, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
"I've not been trained." You've got to do it. Give it a go. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
-That's the key word, isn't it? -Courage. -Courage. Yeah, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
because in that moment that was just really stepping up to do it. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
In those first couple of minutes you just want the blood moving, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
just something. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
And so that gave us great hope when Chris was admitted that it was... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Something was done. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
That maybe we've done enough, you know? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
You did do enough, didn't you? | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Look at him now! Loving life, you know. Yeah. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:47 | |
There's no doubt that Chris is one lucky man. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
But the simple fact remains that if more of us knew CPR, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
and if defibrillators were more easily available, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
then luck would play a smaller role in the future. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Studies regularly show that exercising your mind with puzzles and games | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
every day can help keep your brain healthy, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
and even up to ten years younger. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Yes. Which is why, just for fun, we've come up with our very own. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
All you have to do is watch the following clips | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
and work when it all happened. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
The question is simple. What was the year that was? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
So here's how the game works. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
We are going to give you a few key events that will happened in the space of a year. But which year? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:31 | |
And here's why you should play along, by the way. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Psychologists have said that nostalgia can promote a sense of wellbeing and vitality in us all. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
So this really could help you hold back the years. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
# I can feel it coming in the air tonight... # | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
Just get on your bike and go, go on. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
You'll be all right, just stay nice and cool. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
# Oh, Lord | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
# And I can feel it coming in the air tonight... # | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
# Bending the rules of the game will let you find | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
# The one you're looking for | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
# And then you can show that you think you know | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
# You're making your mind up. # | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
# Well, the hurt doesn't show, but the pain still grows | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
# It's no stranger to you and me | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
# I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh, Lord... # | 0:23:29 | 0:23:37 | |
What do you think you'll remember most of all about today? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
The pushing and shoving! | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
And we'll give you until the end of the show to work on the answer. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Moving on to a subject I'm sure we can all empathise with - | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
most of us, anyway. Why, as we get older, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
does it become more difficult to keep weight off? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
And what can we do about it? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
I went to Birmingham to meet the middle-aged spreaders. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-Look at your long legs. -I know, look at the shoes! | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
I was normally a very good dancer. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
Any nightclub there was dancing, I was always there. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
Yes, I can't believe it when I look at it! | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
That was me when I was 20. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Your legs go on forever. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
I've come to Birmingham to meet a slimming group currently engaged | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
in the battle of the bulge. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
I don't think I've ever been FAT fat, but I have put weight on. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
You start putting it on and you think, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
where is this tyre coming from? | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
The tyre gets bigger and bigger. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
I didn't know what to do to stop it. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
In the UK, 66% of men and 57% of women are overweight or obese. | 0:24:53 | 0:25:00 | |
As we get older, the pounds just seem to pile on, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
which is exactly the experience of middle-aged spreaders in Solihull, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:09 | |
although they all have various theories | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
as to why this might be the case. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Do you reckon your eating habits have changed as you've got older? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
Yes, You don't do as much and you eat more. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
The odd biscuit, the odd slice of cake. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
The weight is building up without you realising it. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
And yes, obviously when I am stressed out, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
you do like to turn to the odd chocolate bar. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Stewart, what about you? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
When I was at work, a lot of the times it was, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
I used to call it lunch on the run, because I was always at work. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
But now I'm retired, I'm at home and I've got more time to eat food, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
so I have a tendency to eat more food. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
But you're supposed to eat healthily, aren't you? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
That's what it's about. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Well, it's interesting to hear that most of the group seem to blame | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
themselves for their spare tyre. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
But it might not be the case. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Researchers have found that the average man and woman | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
add 1-2 lbs around their middle every year | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
from the ages of 35 to 55, despite eating less. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
I've come to Aston University to meet Dr James Brown, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
one of the country's top experts in the effects of ageing on our weight. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
Middle-aged spread. When does it actually start? | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
It really starts around the age of 30, believe it or not. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
At that age, we start to see the metabolic rate slowing slightly, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
so our metabolism's just starting to slow down, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
hormone levels are starting to drop, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
and for those of us that aren't physically active, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
we start to see a loss of muscle mass and an increase in fat mass. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
And recently, scientists have got closer to understanding what might be the cause. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
They've discovered that ageing increases levels of an enzyme | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
called DNA PK. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
This enzyme repairs our bodies but it also slows down the metabolism, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
making it more difficult to burn fat. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
And it's also a different type of fat | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
than what we see in younger people, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
a deeper, less superficial kind. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
It's called visceral fat. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
This is the fat that wraps itself around your organs, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
around your heart, your kidneys and intestines, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and this visceral fat is more closely associated with disease, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
so if you've got lots of visceral fat, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
you're at a higher risk of diseases like type two diabetes, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
cancer and Alzheimer's. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
So, how do you check just how much of your weight is visceral fat? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
Well, there's a test you can do at home, and for our purposes, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
we've enlisted the help of Stuart. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
If you measure your waist circumference | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
and then also measure yourself around the hips, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
of their widest part, and around the buttocks, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
and if you divide your waist measurement by your hip measurement | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
you get a number and we can tell from that number | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
whether you're storing too much fat around the middle | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
or just the right amount. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:04 | |
-And what should that number be...? -For women, it's 0.8. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
For men, it's 0.9. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
-OK. -OK, so shall we have a go at doing it? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
-Yes. -Brilliant. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
And we have a measurement of 44 inches. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
And then we'll come down... | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
..to the widest part... | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
..of your hips and buttocks, which is actually 45 inches. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
So, you divide your waist size by your hip measurement and the result | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
you're looking for is 0.8 or lower for a woman | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
and 0.9 or lower for a man. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
So what's Stuart's result? | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
You would be just over the 0.9 cut-off for men, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
which means you're at a slightly increased risk | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
of things like type two diabetes, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
because you tend to store your fat around your middle. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Now, we know that bad fat is visceral fat, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
but what does it do to us that other fats don't? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
If you think about what fat does, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
so it doesn't just store energy and it doesn't just keep us warm, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
it's actually a secretory gland, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
so your fat cells right now are releasing as many as 600 different | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
hormones and other molecules. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
But interestingly, visceral fat tends to secrete | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
very damaging hormones and molecules | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
and they can damage tissue such as the brain, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
such as the pancreas, such as your blood vessels, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
and that's why visceral fat increases the risk | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
of these nasty diseases associated with older age. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
And what's also clear is that getting rid of visceral fat takes | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
a lot more effort than youthful chubbiness. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
But it doesn't mean it's out of our control. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Is it true to say that middle-aged spread really is beyond our control? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Not true. We have a lot of control over it, actually. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
There are biological things that happen in the body, your genetics, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
within cells, your metabolism, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
which will influence your risk of middle-aged spread, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
but if you control your diet, eat the right foods in the right amount, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
if you control your physical activity, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
get lots of regular exercise, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
you are going to reduce your risk of middle-aged spread. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
It is not inevitable. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
Well, that's me told. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
So, lots of exercise and eat well. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
And for some advice about a healthy diet, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
I'm talking to physical education teacher Mark Holborn, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
-who's been shopping. -As you can see in front of us, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
we've got a big variety of foods that are readily available to us in | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
supermarkets. We've got the oat breakfast. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Can't go wrong with oats for breakfast. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
-I love a bit of porridge. -Brown pasta. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
Now, this is great to provide us with the energy that we need throughout the day. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
We also have nuts, lots of oils | 0:30:35 | 0:30:36 | |
and there's healthy fats in there. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-And protein. -Lots of protein. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Protein is the key here, because we lose muscle mass after the age of 40, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
so ideally around 25% of our calorie intake should be in the form of | 0:30:45 | 0:30:51 | |
-protein. -Chicken, turkey, really healthy, low in fat, lovely taste. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
-You can cook them with anything. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
You can even throw them in the omelette with your eggs, you know? | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Protein overload. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
Next, I'm bringing our middle-aged spreaders to a gym | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
where Dr Brown and Mark have a few tips for them. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
So, there are three pieces of advice we want you to focus on | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
and the first piece of advice is about nutrition, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
so that means try to avoid processed foods that have too much energy in | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
them and to focus on eating more natural foods, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
the right amount of calories, so you're getting a healthy nutrition. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
The second thing we've got to talk about is the value of exercise. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
We know that exercise is really important for a number of reasons. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
If we resistance-train, it means that we can build our muscles up. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
That can raise our metabolism. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
At the same time, because as you get older, the muscles degrade, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
we want to keep the muscles still working and keep them functioning. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
But most importantly, exercise is proven to reduce your stress levels. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
And that's our final piece of advice, actually, is to | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
make sure you're getting enough rest and a good night's sleep. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
We know that increased stress will lead to the increased levels of | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
stress hormones and they can contribute to middle-aged spread, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
so make sure you are getting periods of rest during the day, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
a good night's sleep and recovery from any exercise that you do. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
Which rather neatly leads us to our final task | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
with the middle-aged spreaders - | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
a quick workout in the gym. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:17 | |
Four, three, two, one. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Go. I love that. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Remember, you can do this at home with a broomstick | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
and just on a chair at home. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
Go, Jackie. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
Up into the air, into your chest. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:30 | |
This is going to work the backs of your arms | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
as well as the tops of your shoulders. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
As long as they keep it up, then could this go some way to | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
getting rid of that visceral fat that some of them might have? | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
It can. We've given them all the tools they need to make | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
the right lifestyle decisions | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
so that they can limit their amount of visceral fat. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
Good work. Well done, folks. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
The thought of exercise and diet doesn't appeal to anyone, really, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
but they really do work and that, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
combined with sleep and a little less stress in their lives, | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
really could help them banish the fat wherever it is in their bodies. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
That was hard work! | 0:33:06 | 0:33:07 | |
Finally today, a truly lovely story about a unique place that could help | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
revolutionise how we look after | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
the oldest and the youngest in our society. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
It's Britain's first intergenerational care home, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
where caring means sharing. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
It's 8'o'clock on a Tuesday morning in south London. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
Over there is Nightingale House, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
home to 200 residents with an average age of about 90. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
And 100 yards in that direction is | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
the Apples and Honey Nightingale Nursery, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
with 30 - on any given day - two to five-year-olds. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Normally, the twain would never meet, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
but both have come up with an ingenious way of working | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
that benefits everyone. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
I've come to visit the first place in the UK to offer full-time care | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
for preschool children within a residential home for older people. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
Now, millions of us enjoy spending time with grandchildren, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
but for the residents here, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
it's a much bigger commitment with much greater benefits. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
It's known as intergenerational care | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
and something we might see a lot more of in the future. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
At 9am, the nursery staff bring the two groups together. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
And from the off, it's playtime. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
So, how did this project come about? | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Away from all the hubbub, I spoke to Ali Summers, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
co-founder of the nursery. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
So, Ali, how did all this come about here, then, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
with the nursery and the care home? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
We had a nursery in Wimbledon and we brought the children here several | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
times a term and we thought how wonderful it would be | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
if we didn't have to leave, if we could just stay here on site, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
and here we are. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:57 | |
What are the benefits for the residents? | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
They are remarkable. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
The joy that comes out of them. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
Last night, I sat on one of their floors | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
with a lovely resident named John and I asked him how his week went, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
how his day went, what he enjoyed most, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
and he said it's visiting the children. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:12 | |
And he said, it's not just me. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
And he pointed to another resident. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:15 | |
He said, he doesn't talk to anybody, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
and yet when he comes down and he is with the children, he talks, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
he interacts, and there was a woman who lives locally with dementia | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
whose partner and carer bring her to our baby and toddler group | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
because she just comes alive in the sessions. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
And has there been a lot of interest from other people in what you're doing here? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
There has been tremendous interest. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
We've been contacted by about 20 different groups locally, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
around the country, around the world, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
asking how we got started, can we help them? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
We've had volunteer offers of help | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
from so many walks of life. It's been truly inspirational. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Time, I think, to meet some of the residents. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Fay Garcia, who's 90, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
and Margie Bloom, 91, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
are getting ready for the mid-morning snack. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
They've found themselves thriving since the programme started. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
Hello. Well, this is fun, isn't it? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
-It's great fun, yes. -Great fun. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
I should think things change quite a lot when | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
the children come into the home? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Oh, absolutely. They brighten up our room. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Just to watch their characters, the way they change, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
the way they come towards you. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
It's like being a child again. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
So do you think this is a good idea for other care homes to take on? | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Yes, I think it's better than all the medicine, all the pills, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
and certainly better than putting on the TV and reading the paper | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
with all the miserable news. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
This is wonderful. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
And Fay, you didn't have children of your own. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
-I never had children. -So this is a whole new experience? | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
Absolutely. It's like being reborn. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
And Marjorie, do you have grandchildren? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
Oh, yes, I have four. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
So how do this lot compare with them? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
This lot are very good! | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
But it's not all one-way traffic. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
Research also shows that the contact with older people also has | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
a positive impact on the learning and development of children. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
Stirring, stirring, stirring, stirring. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
OK, time to test the catering? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Oh, that is good. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
-Do you like being at nursery, Nariah? -Yes! | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
What do you think is the best thing? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Singing. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:20 | |
Singing. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:21 | |
-Balloon. -Oh, you've got balloons. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
What do you think of your friends? Do you like your friends here? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
Your older friends. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
They are nice, aren't they? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
-Yum yum. -Well done. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
Well, this is a lot of fun but here in the UK, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
we lag well behind many countries where, for some time, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
the very young and the very old have been getting together | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
and both getting a lot out of it. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
Cheers. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
Intergenerational care first began in Japan in the 1970s. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
It's now found in countries all over the world. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
One of the pioneering centres is in Seattle, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
where it's been established for nearly 30 years. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
Here in the UK, we are just starting to get the idea, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
but it could be about to take off in a big way. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Steven Burke from United For All Ages is one of the people trying | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
to take intergenerational care into the mainstream. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
Why do we lag so far behind other countries when it comes to doing this sort of thing? | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
The UK is one of the most age- segregated countries in the world. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Most of our activities only cater for one age group. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
Like a care home or a nursery. And very rarely do they mix. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
And there are all sorts of impacts as a result of that. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Loneliness and isolation for older people, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
but also children don't benefit from the learning and experience that | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
older people can provide. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
So, how do you plan to change this? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
We're hoping that within the next five years, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
there will be some 500 care home-nurseries on the same sites. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
500? That sounds quite ambitious. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
We have a lot of interest already from several hundred care schemes and housing schemes | 0:38:54 | 0:39:00 | |
where they have the space. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
The question is, is the space suitable for a nursery? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Does it have the right access for nursery? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Is it in the right location for a nursery | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
where families are living close by? | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
And do you think projects like this one here could make people | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
feel differently about going into care homes? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
Care homes can quite often be isolated institutions | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
and by opening them up | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
to not just children but also the families of the children, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
relatives of the older people, the staff, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
it can really help bring care homes alive. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
The key thing here is that this is an everyday activity. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
It's happening every day of the week | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
and older people are getting involved | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
in helping those children learn and develop and grow | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
and experience the joys of life. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
Food all eaten, it's time for the afternoon story, and today, well, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
they have a guest reader - me! | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
Hello, my name's Bill and I'm a bad beekeeper - a really bad beekeeper. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
I've done bad things with bees, terrible things, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
things you wouldn't understand | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
unless you were a beekeeper yourself. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
I still shudder at the thought of one or two of them. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
And with that, it's nap time. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Blimey, I didn't think I was that boring! | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
Why, I hear you ask? | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
Why? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
It's the end of a long but very fulfilling day and soon, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
it'll begin all over again. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
Who knows? In years to come, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
this might be a much more everyday occurrence. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
For the moment, it's a chance for me to find out what mum and dad think. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
It's good for them to actually understand all different types | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
of people out there and spend time and be gentle with older people | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
as well as being around their friends. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
So, what does your daughter say about coming here | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
-and being with the residents? -Absolutely loves it. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
So, we drive in together and every time, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
she'll be telling me stories about what she's planning to do and when | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
we're driving back home, she's telling me, oh, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
I was with residents and this is what we were doing. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
What do you think they get out of it, the children? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
Patrick, he loves the residents. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
He comes home and tells me about his grannies, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
so he's extended his family by 20 plus. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
Back inside, it's time for me to say my goodbyes to Margie and Fay, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
but first, why not get some top tips | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
on how to overcome an age gap of more than 80 years? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
So, ladies, we've seen you having a lovely time | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
with the children earlier. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
What's your advice? What's the best way to get on with little children, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
-do you think? -Personally, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
I think it's like treating them like you would any human being, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:51 | |
whatever age. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
It's amazing how much and what they do pick out. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
Don't talk down to them. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:57 | |
Exactly, yes. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
If there's one single thing that you both take away from this experience | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
that you've had, what would you say it was? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
I think it's the warmth and the acceptance of the children | 0:42:05 | 0:42:11 | |
of us oldies. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
-Does it make you feel younger? -In a way, yes. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
I want to sing with them. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
-Which we do, don't we? -Which we do. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Have you got a favourite song? | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
-I'm not going to sing it now. -Oh, why not? | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
The Wheels On The Bus? | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
Could be, yes. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
THEY SING: # The bell on the bus | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
# Goes dinga-linga-ling all day long. # | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
This could all be seen as a bit of a game changer for care homes, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
which, up to now, are all too often seen as the last stop | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
on the journey of life. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
What's happening here is giving the children a valuable experience | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
and giving the older people a whole new purpose. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
Time now to give you the answer to our What Was The Year That Was archive quiz. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
Fiona, the year was... | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
The year was, oh, 1981, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
the year that Bucks Fizz won the Eurovision Song contest. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
Good. Let's hope you can make your mind up to join us again tomorrow. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
# Every time that I come near her | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
# I just lose my nerve | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
# As I've done from the start | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
# Every little thing she does is magic | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
# Everything she do just turns me on | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
# Even though my life before was tragic | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
# Now I know my love for her goes on... # | 0:43:36 | 0:43:41 |