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APPLAUSE | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Hello and welcome to the Great History Quiz. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
The show where we give you, the viewer, the chance to | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
pit your wits against some of the country's most respected historians. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
Between them, these people have got 16 university degrees, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
they've written 18 books | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
and contributed over 200 hours of television. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
So good luck. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
Today's show is dedicated to that notorious dynasty, the Tudors, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
who ruled the country from 1485 to 1603. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
A turbulent period that changed the face of British history forever. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
Along the way, we will taste some Tudor dishes, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
encounter some Tudor artefacts | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
and reveal some dubious medical advice and we will also | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
unearth some deadly secrets. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
But first, let's meet our teams. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Captaining the team on my right, we have the broadcaster | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
and chief curator at Historic Royal Palaces, Dr Lucy Worsley. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Lucy, would you like to do the honours | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
and introduce your fellow historians? | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Thanks, Kirsty, I've got all the bases covered in my excellent | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
team tonight. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
To my right, I've got Professor Kate Williams and, to my left, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Greg Jenner, who is the head nerd at Horrible Histories. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
And captain of the opposing team tonight is the historian | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and broadcaster Dan Snow. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Dan, please do the honours. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
Right, well, I'm going to be fine cos I've got two doctors of history. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
To my right, I've got Dr Anna Whitelock | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
who specialises in high politics | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
and then Jonathan Foyle on my left who specialises in tall buildings. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
But before we begin, let me introduce you to the Tudor timeline. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
It begins with the fall of Richard III | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485 | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
and it ends with the death of Elizabeth in 1603. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
By the time we are done, the timeline will be furnished with | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
all the characters and events that made this such a colourful period. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
So let's remind ourselves of the monarchs' places on the timeline. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
It all began with Henry VII, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
who came to the throne in 1485. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Henry VIII in 1509. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Then we have his son Edward VI in 1547. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Then his daughter Mary I in 1553 | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
and, finally, Elizabeth I in 1558 whose reign closed the Tudor period | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
in 1603. | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
But now on with the quiz - Round 1. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
And let's meet the cast. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
DRUMS BEAT | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
So in this round, we're going to enter | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
a gallery of movers and shakers from the Tudor courts. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
Teams, I'm going to show you four portraits, each will be accompanied | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
by a biographical statement with some crucial information missing. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
All you have to do is identify who the portrait depicts - you get | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
two points for that - and fill in the blank of that statement for another. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
So, Lucy, your team are up first, please walk into our Tudor gallery. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
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So, Lucy's team is starting with the top left portrait. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
Can you tell me, then, who that is? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
It's Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Of course, the man who managed to get Henry married to Anne. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
So, you are quite right, of course, it is Thomas Cromwell. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
And the question that goes then with this portrait is - | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Catherine Howard. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
Oh, you didn't hesitate at all. For another point, absolutely. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Tell us a little bit then, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
Kate, about what it was that happened to Catherine Howard. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Thomas Cromwell fell from favour because he tried to get Henry | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
married to Anne of Cleves and Anne of Cleves was not to Henry's liking. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Instead, he preferred her lady-in-waiting, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
the beautiful, young Catherine Howard | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
but unfortunately she was discovered as having committed, he said, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
adultery, with his favourite courtier, Thomas Culpeper. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
And that was the beginning of her downfall, so she was executed. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Let's move on then to your second portrait, just move one along | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
on that top row and tell me who we are looking at now. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
I think we are looking at Thomas Cranmer. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
The marvellous architect of the Reformation. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
And curiously, he was Catherine Parr's uncle so you realise | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
how incestuous it was at the court, that he was this great architect | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
of the Reformation and then the uncle of Henry VIII's last wife. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
So Thomas Cranmer was Archbishop of Canterbury. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
Oh, that would be, erm, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
-Anne Boleyn. -Anne Boleyn. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
Indeed, it was Anne Boleyn and why might he have been so upset? | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
He was the family chaplain to the Boleyn family, I think, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
and they brought him in to the court so he had more or less | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
climbed on their coat-tails and so her death was quite sad, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
-I think, for him. -A bad day. -Bad day, yeah, definitely. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
You don't get a point for that, I was just interested. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:38 | 0:05:39 | |
We'll move on now to your third portrait. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Are we, team, looking at Sir Francis Walsingham? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-So, he was the spy master to Elizabeth. -He looks like a good | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
spy master to me, you know, MI6 have nothing on him. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
It's the fact he's almost completely in shadow. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
-LUCY LAUGHS -Yes! | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
You're quite right, it is Francis Walsingham. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Walsingham was Elizabeth's spy master. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-A Catholic? -LAUGHTER | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
He did not say that. He said... | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
there is nothing more dangerous than security. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
-Let's go on, then, to your fourth portrait. -Yeah, Wolsey. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-Cardinal Wolsey. -Absolutely. -Looking strong. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
The words that are often used about him are like | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
-a spider in a web of power. -A familiar, a god? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
-Ipse rex - the King himself. -Oh, the king himself. -Wow. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
OK, that is the end of your round, thank you very much. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
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I can feel a little bit of nerves from Dan's team now, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
cos they did so well. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
Dan, if you and your team would enter the gallery. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
Right, Dan's team then, starting with the top left portrait, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
can you tell me who we are looking at? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Well, it is either the early Tudor all-star champion swimmer... | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
Or Henry FitzRoy. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
-Could be. -Is that Henry FitzRoy? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
Henry FitzRoy, Duke of Richmond, bastard son of Henry VIII, I think. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
And he's got one of the most flamboyant tombs of Tudor England | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
in Framlingham church in Suffolk. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
You are quite right, absolutely, Henry FitzRoy. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
-Oh, Catherine of Aragon. -Catherine of Aragon. -Oh, yes. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
Catherine of Aragon. LAUGHTER | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
OK, let's go on to your second portrait. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Who are we looking at here? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
I'm feeling good about this one, I think it is a young, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
fairly handsome Philip of Spain. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Well, I don't know what your category for handsome is, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
but you're certainly right on that - Philip II of Spain, you're right. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
As an old man, he really started to fall apart. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
You're quite right, Dan, Philip II of Spain. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Ah, he proposed to his former sister-in-law Elizabeth I, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
needing to maintain the alliance with England. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
It wasn't a love match, this one? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
No, he didn't want to make the proposal | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
and it was suggested that it would be a good idea to him | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
and he kind of crossed his fingers and hoped she'd say no | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
-and in fact she did say no... -Right. -..but England was such | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
a prize at the time, that he was prepared to consider it | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
to maintain that all-important Anglo-Spanish alliance. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
Let's go on to your third portrait then, who's this? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
That is tricky. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
-Thomas Seymour. -I think it is Seymour. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
And I think you're absolutely spot on with that. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
The King was Edward VI. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
-Erm... -Oh, it's, his, erm, his brother. -He would have called... | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
-Yeah, Edward Seymour. -You got there, Anna. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
-His brother was the Lord Protector, Edward Seymour. -Yeah. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
And what was it that Thomas had been arrested for? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
Just give me a little bit of context. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
-Did he shoot the King's dog? -LAUGHTER | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-Well, I don't think that is what he was arrested for. -I know, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
but I think he shot his puppy. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Well, he was attempting to break into King Edward VI's apartments | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
and you're right, he shot his spaniel in all the confusion. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
And he of course is the infamous character who apparently had | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
romps with the young Princess Elizabeth when she was 13, 14 | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
-so he was a character of dubious moral virtue, I think. -He looks it. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
Let's go on to your fourth then. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
I like this lady a lot, she is Elizabeth of York... | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
-Absolutely. -..which is where it all began. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
-Her and Henry VII. -She spawned the Tudors. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
They got it on and here we are today. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
I think Henry VII gets too much credit for it. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
I mean, she gave birth to the whole dynasty really. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
OK, let me give you a follow-up question for a point. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
-Bed? -LAUGHTER | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
I'm going to need something more than that for the point! | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Would it be Nonsuch Palace or would it be Greenwich? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Nonsuch didn't happen yet. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
It's Richmond, it's Westminster or Greenwich, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
are the main three palaces. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Which are we going to go for? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
-If we know, can we say? -I'd go Greenwich. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Greenwich. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Well, you're wrong, you won't get a point but... | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
It's the Tower of London. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
It is the Tower of London. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
You did very well, Dan's team, do take your seats. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Thank you to both of our teams and after that round of revelations, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Lucy's team has 10 and Dan's team has 11 points. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
So now it is on to the Artefacts Round. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
DRUMS BEAT | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
Henry VIII's ill-fated warship the Mary Rose | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
sank off the coast of Portsmouth in 1545. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
Its contents and crew remained on the seabed for over 400 years | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
before it was raised in 1982. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
On loan from the Mary Rose Museum, under the watchful eye | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
of the collection specialist Simon Weir, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
are several items that were salvaged from this unique Tudor time capsule. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Teams, I'm going to ask you to identify the artefacts' original use, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
that's going to give you one point, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
and then I'm going to ask you a follow-up question for another point. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
So, Lucy's team, your treasures are there, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
let's go and take a look at them, from the Mary Rose. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
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So, Kate, you are up first and because they're so precious, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
I'm going to ask Simon please to come in | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
and just help you take a closer look. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Oh, yes, would you turn it for me, Simon? Thank you. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
So, Kate, what do you think you are looking at here? | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
Well, it looks a bit like it's some sort of Tudor toasting fork maybe, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
that you could put your sandwich in there and it looks a bit | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
like it is styled in the sense of a dragon or a snake | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
because you've got two little indentations here that look like | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
little eyes and, obviously, we know that the Mary Rose... You know, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
19,000 objects, a lot of those retrieved were weaponry | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
because it was a warship but at the same time it was a home | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
and a community and a workplace, so I think maybe, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
cross my fingers for toasting fork, something to do with cooking. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Right. I'm going to ask your team-mates to come in and see | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
-if they can help you out, because it is not a toasting fork. -Oh, no. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
-Charming as that idea is. -Help me, team-mates, help me! -Anybody? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
I think I know what this is, I think it's called a linstock. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
I think you put the match in it and you use that to light the cannon, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
if I remember rightly. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Greg, you're spot on, it is called a linstock. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
It is so beautifully carved. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
It is beautifully carved, you can see how ornate it is there, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and as you say, it is like a dragon's head. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Kate, on this follow-up question, you can confer. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Running a Navy the size of the English fleet | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
was, as you can imagine, a very expensive business. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
In 1567, what means was established to help generate additional funds? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:13 | |
There is a Tudor lottery, there is a national lottery. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
A national lottery. There was also a devaluation of the coinage. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
I'm going to pop in and tell you that he's got that right. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Greg has got the point. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
There were 400,000 tickets available | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
and I'm told that ticket holders were also promised freedom from | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
arrest from all crimes, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
other than murder, felonies, piracy or treason. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
-But the immunity only lasted a week. -Those are the good crimes! | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
But what a week! What an amazing week! | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Lucy, by contrast, you've got something very small and delicate. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I'm going to ask Simon to come round to lift it up | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
so you can have a closer look at it. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
And once you have had a good look, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
tell us what you think you are looking at from the Mary Rose. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I think it is a little bobbin for making lace or something like that. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
So you would attach... You'd use it to weight down thread, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
is that correct? | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
That is a very charming thought | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
and it couldn't be further from the truth. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
I've not been looking at the little spoon, it is a little salt spoon. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Simon, in fact, you tell us what it is and what it was used for. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
-This is an ear scoop. -Yes. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
You spotted the little scoop on the end there, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
so that would just lift out the ear wax. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
-Fantastic. -Excessive ear wax solution? -Yeah. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
So it's an ear scoop for scooping out the wax | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
and then that wax would delightfully be used for what particular purpose? | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
-They could use it on... -Greasing the cannon? -..greasing bow strings. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Yes, the archers used it for the... | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
So archers could use it. Or for threads, this sort of thing. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
I've just remembered that Henry VIII gave Anne Boleyn | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
a golden ear scoop as a present during their courtship | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
and the message in that case was, Anne, I want to be in your ears. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
So, just hold the thought of this earwax being used by the archers. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
The question I want to ask you, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
what was outlawed in the Act of 1541 as being detrimental to the proper | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
and lawful pursuit of archery? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
Football. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Actually football and everything else. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Anything that was much fun at all. What do you know about that? | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
This is the hypocrisy from Henry | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
cos we know he owned the world's first pair of football boots. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
He loved football. He played football. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
And the reason that all these things were banned, all these games, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
and tennis and dice and quoits and everything was | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
because they wanted people to concentrate on the archery. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
-And military service. -Yes. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
-And you were meant to do it until you were 60. -Between 17 and 60. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
17 and 60 you were meant to be fit enough to be able to fight in the | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Navy or the Army if need be. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
So, Simon I'm going to ask you to come round now | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
and let's take a look at Greg's artefact from the Mary Rose. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
Let's take a closer look at this and, Greg, can you identify this? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-What are we looking at? -It's got to be a syringe. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
It's got to be medical, hasn't it? It's got to be a syringe. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Sailors had a fairly dodgy reputation for | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
when they got into port and they found the ladies | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
and I think quite often they contracted illnesses | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
and those illnesses were downstairs illnesses and they needed a cure. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
And I think... This is a horrible thing to say. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
I think this is a urethra syringe, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
it basically pumps mercury up a gentleman's John Thomas. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
So delicately put. You are so right. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
It is a urethral syringe. And this treatment with mercury, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
do you have any idea what phrase it gave birth to in the language? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
You spend an evening... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-"Five minutes with Venus..." -That's it. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
-BOTH: -"..and a lifetime with mercury." | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
-That's right. That's what it was. -Yeah. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
So syphilis was called the Italian disease in France. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
It was called the Polish disease in Russia. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
It was called the Spanish disease in the Netherlands, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
the Christian disease in Turkey, and the British disease in Tahiti. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
-What was it known as in England? -The French disease. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
-Of course it was. -Especially on the Mary Rose, the enemy. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
-The French disease. -Yes. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
And the French thought that the English disease was flagellation. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
You don't get a point for that but I am fascinated. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
I must ask you more about that later. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
-OK, thank you very much, Lucy's team. You can have a seat. -Thank you. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Dan's team, if you can come up now. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
So, Anna, we go to you first. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
And as you know you can look but you can't touch. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
I'm going to ask Simon to come in again and just lift up | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
-Anna's artefact and let her have a closer look. Any ideas, Anna? -No. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
-Not immediately. OK, so it's wooden... -Yeah, it's made from wood. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:39 | |
-..with different sections in... -Markings, yeah. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
..with some markings. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Is it some kind of primitive kind of calendar...? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Well, it is numbers related but not to do with calendars. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
OK, I'm going to open this up to your whole team. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Dan, you're looking as if you might have a bit of a clue here. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Is it a navigation aid? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
-You didn't have a clue. -I didn't... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
-LAUGHTER -He was just wondering. -I'm going to tell you what it is. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
It's called a tally stick and essentially it was a receipt system | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
that was used and the notches recorded transactions. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
So it was used for administering rations. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
So there would be a stick on either side. Isn't that right, Simon? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
-Absolutely. -And it would be notched across. And if it matched up with the rations | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
-that were given to you. -That's it. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
-How would I ever have got that? -Here's your follow-up question. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
I wonder how you're going to get this then. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
In 1596 Sir Hugh Plat persistently campaigned for the adoption | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
of which new foodstuff to be included in naval rations? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
It's quite late so would it be some sort of potato thing | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-going on or would it be some citrus-y thing? -It could be... | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
-It's even more sophisticated. -It's not sugar... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
OK, more sophisticated than potatoes(!) | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
-JONATHAN: -Cocoa. -Wowee(!) -Chocolate. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-That's my cooking maxing out... -South American by this time, chocolate. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
-It's carbohydrate-based. -OK, carbohydrate-based. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
-JONATHAN: -Pain au chocolat. -I think I'm going to have to tell you. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
I think you're going to have to tell us. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
-It was pasta. -Pasta. -Yeah. -Wow. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
This is the earliest published reference to pasta in English, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
it was in Plat's work of 1594 and his campaign was in fact successful in at | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
least one case because records show Sir Francis Drake commissioned Plat | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
to make a large quantity of pasta for at least one of his voyages. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Right, let's move on then, Dan, to your artefact. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Something a little bit more substantial. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
-Simon is going to lift it so that you can examine it well... -Thank you. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
..and tell us what you think this is and what it was used for. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
Well, I think it's a very light piece of artillery | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
and you would put some... You would ram a charge home, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
you'd ram some gunpowder home, you'd put a projectile in, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
and then you'd put a little bit of gunpowder on there, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
and then you'd prick that so that the gunpowder goes through to the | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
big charge, light it there and, bang, you can shoot at the French. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
And would you manage to have a name? You could confer. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Tudor artillery, terrifying, because every single cannon had a completely different name. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
It's going to be something obvious like a handgun. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
You get the point. It's called hailshot | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
-and it was cube-shaped shots. Is that right, Simon? -That's right. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
It would be used this way. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
This is the wooden stock which is the handle that fits in the end. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
They could rest this on the side of the deck | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
and it would fire a couple of dozen iron dies. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
That's what's so amazing on the Mary Rose. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
You get cannon and gunpowder weapons, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
but you've also got loads of longbowmen. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
-So you've got those medieval and early modern worlds colliding. -Exactly. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
I'm going to give you a follow-up question | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
cos we're thinking about artillery, we're thinking about firearms. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
What's the connection between firearms | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
and James Stewart the half-brother of Mary, Queen of Scots? | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
Well, didn't he blow himself up? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
He was a huge firearms enthusiast and he... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
-Is this the right James Stewart? -I think you're right. Go on. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
There's so many James Stewarts who ended badly but I think he was | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
next to his favourite cannon and it blew up and killed him. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
Yeah. I only wish that that were the case cos it's a very good story. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
In 1570, his was the first recorded assassination with a firearm. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
OK. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
It was up in Linlithgow this happened. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
Used to be quite a rough place, Linlithgow. Not any longer. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
You didn't get your points but well done for guessing. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Let's move on then to Jonathan. And, Simon, if you come forward, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
lift this up for Jonathan and the rest of us to have a little look at. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
-JONATHAN: -If you could turn that around, Simon, thank you. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-There we go. -So it's a beautifully made thing, isn't it? Very precise. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
And it has a little cut at this end which looks like a reed. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
But at the far end, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
it seems that it was supposed to be attached to something else. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
So I'm going to guess that's a reed for some kind of hornpipe. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
Well, I'll tell you what, Jonathan, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
you can use it as a hornpipe if you want but I certainly wouldn't. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
-ANNA: -I think I know what. Is it an enema pipe? | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
-It is an enema pipe. -No! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
And do you know, Anna, what it might have had attached to the end? | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
That was well spotted by you. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
-And that sort of... -What kind of a tune can you get out of that? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
-ANNA: -No. I wouldn't... I don't really want to think... | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
It was... Am I right, Simon, it was a pig's bladder? | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
That's right. It would have had a pig's bladder fitted at this end | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
where they would have put the liquid | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
and then that would be inserted you know where. And, yes, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
for treating constipation or stomach problems or whatever. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
Everybody in the audience is sitting a little higher in their seats. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
-ANNA: -What's crazy is like that actually was there. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
You just don't know where that's been, quite literally. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Why do you think Simon is wearing gloves? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
-ANNA: -Exactly. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
So I want to ask you your follow-up question for an extra bonus point. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
Which product, introduced into England in Tudor times, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
was later administered via enemas? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-Tobacco. -ANNA: -Tobacco, yeah. That's it. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
-Tobacco. -They thought tobacco could cure all kinds of things. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
You're absolutely right. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
Among them, do you know what they thought it could cure? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
-Cancer... -Yeah. -..lockjaw... -Constipation. -Constipation. Everything. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
Heavy breathing. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
Clears the airways. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
You get a point for that. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
-Tobacco enema. -Well done. -Dan's team, thank you very much. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
So, Simon, I'm going to ask you now to please bring on our bonus artefact | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
for both teams to have a look at. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
It's from Henry VIII's flagship, the Mary Rose. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
It is the magnificent ship's bell, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
which is the centrepiece of the collection | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
and it would, normally, only be seen inside the case at the museum. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
So we are very fortunate to be seeing it here today. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
So, as I say, for an extra point, on your buzzers, teams. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Can you tell me why this was the most significant find | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
for Mary Rose archaeologists? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
BUZZER Dan's team. And it's Dan buzzing. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
Cos it was conclusive evidence that it was, in fact, the Mary Rose? | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
You're absolutely right. So you get the point for that and... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Tell me more about that. What was it particularly about this bell? | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Er, well, the bell had certain markings on it | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
that meant that it could only be | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
connected with the Mary Rose. | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
So it was engraved in Flemish | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
and the engraving reads, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
"I was made in the year 1510." | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
And there was only one other ship that was made in that same year. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Might you know what that ship was? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
Was it called the Henry Grace a Dieu? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Was it the Phoenix Pomegranate? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
-It was the Peter Pomegranate. -Peter Pomegranate! -Whoa! | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
Yes, and so, purely by deduction | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
and of looking at the bell, and knowing that the Pomegranate | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
-hadn't sunk, because I think it sailed until 1558... -Yep. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-..they knew this must be the Mary Rose. -This must be the Mary Rose. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
So thank you very much indeed to Simon from the Mary Rose Museum. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
We do very much appreciate you bringing in these artefacts. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Well, after that round, I can reveal | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
that Lucy's team has 15 points | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
and Dan's team has 15 points, too. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
So it's on to our next round and that is going to be... | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
all about medicine. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
In this round, our historians will be tested on Tudor diseases | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
and their remedies via a peculiar branch of folk medicine, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
known as the doctrine of signatures. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
The Tudors bought into the idea that | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
if a plant resembled a part of the anatomy, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
then it could cure that body part if things went wrong. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
This notion dated back to the Ancient Greeks | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
and it wasn't always as mad as it sounds. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
For instance, when it came to ginger, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
due to its resemblance to the stomach, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
it was thought to cure digestive complaints. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Luckily for them, it did. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
However, shepherd's purse was thought to aid blood circulation | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
and perhaps you can maybe even hazard a guess at what orchid bulbs | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
were used to treat. LAUGHTER | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
Lucy's team, you are going to be using the doctrine of signatures | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
to answer questions on the medical history of Henry VIII. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
And you have, in front of you, some Tudor remedies. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
I want you to tell me which of Henry's many health problems | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
these could have been used to treat, according to the doctrine. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
And, Lucy, I'm going to ask you, first of all, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
to look at the furthest away remedy. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
CLICKING | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
And tell me a little bit about this. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
Which of Henry's ailments might it have been used to treat? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Bearing in mind what body part it looks like. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
Well, I think these are walnuts. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
They are walnuts, yes. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
-So, considering Henry had malaria, leg ulcers. -Yep. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
-Gout? -And smallpox, gout. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
-Allegedly, syphilis, some say. -Allegedly, syphilis. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
-Is it a brain or is it the male member? -Oh! | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
Well, he falls off his horse. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
-Yeah, so it looks a bit like a brain inside a cranium. -So he fell off | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
-his horse, didn't he, in 1536? -And was in a coma for... | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
-BOTH: -..two hours. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
And, after that, people thought, perhaps he'd been unconscious | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
for two hours and it had slightly changed the make-up of his brain. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
And he did suffer terrible headaches | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
after his first jousting incident in 1524. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
So I think now people began to wonder, had his character changed? | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
There were some historians who think that what happened to Henry | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
during 1536 - the quick way he turned against Anne Boleyn - | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
is due to the fact that he fell off his horse | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
and his brain had some kind of injury. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Yes, you're absolutely right. I mean, the walnut looks like a brain | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and this was used to treat these headaches | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
-that Henry suffered from. -Fantastic. -Mm. -And, as you say, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
after the jousting incident. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
You've got your point for that, then, Lucy's team. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
I want to ask you your follow-up question. Again, for a point. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Henry changed the laws on insanity in 1542, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
in order to facilitate the execution of which...? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Jane Boleyn. So... | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
He did so, because this was Jane Boleyn, who was the waiting woman | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
of Catherine Howard and she was also the sister-in-law of Anne Boleyn. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
And there was damning evidence that she facilitated | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
Catherine Howard's affairs. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
And Catherine Howard approached the block with great dignity, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
but Jane Boleyn, in the run-up to being executed, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
she went completely mad. She had a nervous breakdown. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
And so Henry had to change the law that made it possible to execute | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
people who were mad, for the first time ever, and that's what he did. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
Kate, that was a wonderfully fulsome answer. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
I think it deserves a round of applause. Well done. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Now let's go on to your second question. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
And I see you already do have your gloves on, which is just as well, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
because this is... It is highly poisonous, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
-what we are about to ask you to look at here. -Oh, my goodness. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
Unsurprisingly, probably, for Tudor medicine. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Just have a little examination of that and, again, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
bear in mind that it relates to the body part that it would be used | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
to treat the problem of. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Oh, he was constipated, wasn't he? | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
And he's constipated, so these are | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
small king droppings, aren't they? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
Somebody up there knows what it is. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
It's called pileworts... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
-Oh, no! -Is it? -Oh! -..or a celandine root, yes. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
-Ah, fantastic. -And it was to treat His Majesty's piles. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
Is that what piles look like? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
-Don't play the innocent with me, Lucy Worsley. -I wouldn't know! | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
What would the piles have been down to, Greg, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
in terms of his diet and so on? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:08 | |
-Well, I mean, he eats an enormous amount of meat. -Yes. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Something like 5,500 calories a day. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
Which is too many calories. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
-Don't do that. -LAUGHTER | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
And really no fibre at all, because vegetables are seen | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
as something for poor people and there is really no... | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Well, he eats vegetables, but he eats them cooked and boiled. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
-And not much fruit. -And you don't eat the fruit raw, because it's | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
-thought to cause plague. -He's on the Atkins diet. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
-LAUGHTER -Yeah, exactly. It's all meat. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
And he also, of course, rides a horse a lot. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:34 | |
In the Middle Ages, bum diseases were very common for knights. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
-LAUGHTER -A really, really common problem. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
In the Crusades in the 14th century, a lot of doctors were specialists | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
in bottom surgery. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
I think we've probably worn the subject out now. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
I could do hours on this. It's fine. Bottoms are my thing. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
So let me just give you a follow-up question | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
on the celandine roots, also known as pileworts. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Which position at court, held by Sir William Compton, Sir Henry Norris | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
and Sir Anthony Denny, during the reign of Henry VIII, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
would have given them an intimate knowledge | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
of Henry's haemorrhoids? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
-That would be the groom of the stool. -Mm. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
The groom of the stool's job was to help his master | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
use the royal chamber pot. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
And it was a very privileged position. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
You're quite right. You got your point. You wanted to come in, Greg? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
Also, he had a very important medical job | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
in that he would be inspecting the king's droppings and also his urine, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
because Tudor medicine is based on Hippocratic medicine, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
which is Ancient Greek medicine. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
And urine, the colour of your urine, the consistency of your faeces | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
would tell people immediately if the King was ill. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
And then, of course, they would be able to call in the doctors and say, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
the King is looking a little bit splatty today. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
LAUGHTER AND GROANING | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Lucy's team, that's quite enough. And thank you very much. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
So, Dan's team, it is your turn. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Dan, do get your gloves on and prepare for... | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
-You pick that one up. -..the doctrine of signatures. -It looks a bit scary. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
To answer questions on the medical history of Elizabeth I. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Oh. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
So let's take a look, first of all, at the plant. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
-This one? -Oh. -Yeah. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
It's called henbane. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
Which of Elizabeth ailments might this cure have been used to treat? | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
And, remember, you are looking to the plant itself | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
to supply you with a clue | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
and this is also poisonous, so I'm very glad you've got gloves on. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
-Oh. -Erm... Hm. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-So she had poor eyesight, her teeth had all fallen out from sugar. -Yep. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
-Is it a tooth...? -Yes, you're quite right. It is. It's tooth decay. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
-Tooth decay. Really? -She loved sweet food. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
She was a real picker when it came to | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
all the plates of food that would come in | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
and she would turn her nose up at most of them, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
except the sweet things. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
And so she had black teeth and then teeth that fell out. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
And, on one occasion, she was in such pain, there was felt the need | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
to pull out the tooth and she was so scared | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
and she had this elderly bishop, who had to sort of stand in her place | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
and show her that it didn't hurt | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
when this tooth was pulled out. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
And he was like, "Course it doesn't hurt". And then she had it done | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
and it was the only tooth she'd ever have pulled out. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
-Round of applause. That's the right answer. -Well done. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
So your follow-up question, for another point on this is, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
in Tudor England, teeth would have been removed by a barber surgeon. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
Who were the barber surgeons and what qualifications did | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
they need in order to operate? | 0:32:23 | 0:32:24 | |
Well, I think the qualification they needed was they needed a big... | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
-Mallet. -..knife. A mallet. -LAUGHTER | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
They had to own the kit. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
Yeah, they were dentist-cum-surgeon-cum-barber. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Quite literally barber surgeons. So they would do everything | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
and they were less qualified than doctors were, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
but more qualified, as such, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
than those apothecaries who would make up medicines. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
-You're quite... -At least they were quite practical. -They were. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
They could actually get a limb off. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
They would amputate, pull your teeth out. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
You're quite right. There was no qualification needed at all and, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
to this day, the reason we call surgeons Mr or Miss, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
rather than Doctor, dates back to Tudor times. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
And the red pole, with the white bandage that we still have today? | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
-Yeah. Outside the barber's shops. -Strikes fear into you. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Let's move on then to your next so-called cure. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
You will know, of course, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
that this is a pomegranate, not poisonous at all. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
So the question that goes with this cure is | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
which disease, contracted by Elizabeth in 1562, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
would pomegranate juice have been used to treat? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Interesting, isn't it? Cos the pomegranate, traditionally, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
had been a symbol of fertility, because the seeds talk about... | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
you know, children. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
-You see this with Catherine of Aragon. -It was her personal symbol, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
-wasn't it? Catherine of Aragon's? -Yeah, it was. But... | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
-She gets a bout of smallpox early on, doesn't she? -It was 1562, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
-October, she was ill with smallpox. -Hm. -So, if it's smallpox...? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
-But Kirsty's not giving it away. -She was confined at Hampton Court. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
No, I absolutely will say that smallpox is right. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
You've got your point, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
but can you put it in some sort of historical context? | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
It was a really scary moment. This is just four years into her reign | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
and, of course, she's not married and she doesn't have an heir. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
And, for a time, it really does look as though she's going to die. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
It's actually a long-standing problem, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
because if you look back to her father, Henry VIII, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
he spent his youth at Eltham Palace on the outskirts of London | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
when sweating sickness and other ailments came in as plagues | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
into the city. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
So her sister, Mary, had a nursery palace | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
two days' ride away near Chelmsford. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
So they kept the children at a safe distance from these urban plagues. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
And, tell me, in terms of Elizabeth herself, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
how could these visible smallpox scars | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
-have damaged her image as the Virgin Queen? -Ah. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
And this is for a point, this question. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
-They looked a lot like syphilis sores. -That's it. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
-They looked like the Great Pox scars. They were similar. -Yeah. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
And also this whole idea of this perfect complexion. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
The idea that the queen has to sort of represent purity | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
and this sort of...as a sign of strength. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
And she covered herself in make-up. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
Yes, and she kept a very tight rein on her image. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
There is one particularly interesting portrait | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
that seems to have slipped through the net. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
I believe we can see the image here. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Well, the interesting thing about Elizabeth is, because, of course, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
she is unmarried, remains unmarried, and doesn't have an heir, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
the future is really, really precarious and uncertain. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
No one knows who's going to succeed her. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
And you get to a point during her reign where, really, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
they had to maintain the fiction that she's young, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
to try and reassure everyone that she'll never get old, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
because there's no one waiting in the wings. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
And so she controls her image and, in fact, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
there's a sort of carefully controlled face pattern | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
that's inserted into portraits towards the end of her reign, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
so that, basically, her face doesn't show that it's ageing. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
And this one is, apparently, a portrait | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
that slipped through the net and does show a rather ageing Elizabeth. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Dan's team, fascinating stuff. Thank you very much. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
So, after that round, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:50 | |
Lucy's team have 18 points | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
and Dan's team have got 19 points. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
Moving on now to our next round, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
which takes on the subject of entertainment. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
In the Tudor period, music had an important role in public life. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
News was spread chiefly via songs, so nothing like today. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
The peddlers of this news were often unsavoury characters, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
criminals and downright liars. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
Again, nothing like today. LAUGHTER | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
You're about to hear two Tudor ballads, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
performed live here in the studio. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Listen carefully, teams, to the lyrics, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
as I am going to be quizzing you on them later. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
Now please do welcome to the stage, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
to perform the first ballad, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Zico Shaker and Jill Kemp. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:34 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
MUSIC: The Death of Queen Jane | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
# Queen Jane was in labour | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
# Full six weeks and more | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
# And the women were weary | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
# And fain would give o'er | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
# O' women, O' women | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
# As women ye be | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
# Rip open my two sides | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
# And save my baby | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
# King Henry came to her | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
# And sate at her bed | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
# What ails my fair lady | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
# Her eyes look so red? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
# She wept and she wail'd | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
# Till she fell in a swoond, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
# They open'd her two sides | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
# And the baby was found | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
# The baby was christened | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
# With joy and much mirth | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
# Whilst poor Queen Jane's body | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
# Lay cold under earth. # | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
That was exquisite. Zico and Jill, thank you very much indeed. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Teams, I do hope that you were listening closely. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
This is a buzzer round. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
So tell me what the subject was... | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
BUZZER ..of that ballad. Jonathan? | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
It's Jane Seymour's birth of the future Edward VI. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Yes. That is absolutely correct. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
And performed during that birth was...? | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
A Caesarean section. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:10 | |
Well, no, the ballad | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
is actually anti-Henrician propaganda, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
because there wasn't a Caesarean section performed. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
We're coming to that. LAUGHTER | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
No, but you're quite right and we will come onto that. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
-OK. -But the answer to the question about what the ballad was | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
-is absolutely correct. -OK. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
And you, Dan's team and Jonathan, will get the point. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
Thank you very much. We'll take that point. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
It was thought to be Catholic propaganda, because...? | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Because Henry had sacrificed the wife for the heir. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Because she died so quickly after the birth. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
And the rumour mill suggested that, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
when Henry was asked if he should save Jane or the baby, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
the rumourmonger said he said, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:48 | |
"The child, by all means, for other wives could easily be found." | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
Don't marry Henry, he will kill you. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Exactly. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
For all that extra information, I'm going to give you a bonus point. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
-Yes! -Because you did fill in some of the blanks. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
-LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE -Whoo! | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
Let's then go to a follow-up question | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
and I'm going to give this to Dan's team, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
because you did get the right answer. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
-We did. -So you have a go at the follow-up question. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Jane Seymour wasn't the only wife of Henry VIII's to die | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
following complications in childbirth. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Can you tell me who the other was? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
She didn't die. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
I'm not going to give you much time. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
Hang on. Wait a second. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
I don't have to wait a second, you know? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Oh, that's true. You don't. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
-Died...? -Oh, it must be Catherine Parr. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
-Oh! -You just...you squeaked it in there. -Of course. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
-After Henry's death. -That's a good trick question there. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
It wasn't during Henry's reign. That's what we were thinking. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
She went on and married someone else after Henry. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
-She married her... -Thomas Seymour. -Exactly. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
She married Thomas Seymour, who we had earlier. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
You have got the point. APPLAUSE | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Now, please welcome back Zico and Jill | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
to perform our second ballad. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
SHE PLAYS | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
# Who keeps Saint Angell gates? | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
# Where lieth our Holy Father say? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
# I muse that no man waits | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
# Nor comes to meet me on the way | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
# Sir Pope, I say, if you be near | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
# Bow down to me your listening ear | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
# Come forth, bestir you then apace | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
# For I have news to tell Your Grace | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
# Stay not, come on | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
# That I from here were shortly gone | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
# Hark well, hear me | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
# What tidings I have brought to thee | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
# The Bull so lately sent | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
# To England by your holy grace | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
# John Felton may repent | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
# For setting of the same in place | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
# For he upon a goodly zeal | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
# He bare unto your common weal | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
# Has ventured life to pleasure you | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
# And now is hanged, I tell you true | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
# Wherefore, sir Pope | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
# In England have you lost your hope | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
# Curse on, spare not | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
# Your knights are like to turn to pot. # | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Stepping back in time, listening to that. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Zico and Jill, thank you very much indeed. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
So teams, again, fingers on buzzers. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
What event... BUZZER | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
So, um, Dan. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
-I think I've made a mistake. -LAUGHTER | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
-I think your competitive spirit is getting the better of you... -OK. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
..and you did come in too early. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:27 | |
It would only be fair for me to finish the question, Dan, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
since you didn't let me. What event of 1570 does that ballad refer to? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:35 | |
-Is that...? -Oh, that's when all the subjects of Elizabeth | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
-were told they no longer had to be obedient to her. -Excommunication. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
So finally, Elizabeth's subjects could do as they wish, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
and that really spawned a real upsurge in plots against her. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
That particular ballad, though. I'm looking for a particular name, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
-and neither team is able to give it to me. -The Papal Bull of Excommunication of 1570. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
Yes, relating to the death of...? | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
-We heard his name in the song! -John Fenton. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
-Well, nearly. John Felton. -Felton. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
Well done, you got there. So a clap for that, and the points. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
My follow-up question, then, and I almost think it's only fair | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
to make this a buzzer question, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
because you both sort of got it right but got just enough of it wrong. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
So let me leave this open to both of you. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
Pope Sixtus V renewed the Bull or the Document of Excommunication | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
against Elizabeth in 1588. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
What incident that occurred | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
in 1587...? Anna. BUZZER | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
-Mary, Queen of Scots' execution. -Absolutely right, yes, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
and a point for that. You get it. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
So after that round, Lucy's team have 19 points, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Dan's team have 23 points. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Now we're going to go on to our penultimate round | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
and this is all about food. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
So from the gluttony of Henry VIII | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
to the extravagant banquets of Elizabeth I, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
food played a very important role in Tudor life and in politics. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
So teams, it is time now to test your taste buds | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
as well as your knowledge. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
The Tudor dishes that you're about to sample | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
have been created by a Hampton Court food historian - | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
please welcome Mark Hawtree. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
Hello. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:35 | |
So, Mark, thank you and welcome. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
We will come to all of your expert knowledge in just a moment. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
First of all, we're going to go to Lucy's team, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
and, Mark, I would ask you initially | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
to reveal the dish that Lucy's team | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
are going to try to tell us a little bit about. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
There they are. Now, take a taste. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
OK. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
Shall we go for the nipple? | 0:44:00 | 0:44:01 | |
Do they just look like giant boobs to you? | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
-Or small boobs, actually. -A plate of mammaries. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
Henry VII did like... | 0:44:08 | 0:44:09 | |
Too much information, Greg! | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
-What do you make of the taste? -Um... | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
It's not very nice. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
-GREG: -Oh, I like it! | 0:44:17 | 0:44:18 | |
Is it lavender, or violet? It tastes like Turkish Delight. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
I think it's rose. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:22 | |
Mark, I'm going to ask for your description of what it is | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
that is being eaten here. And actually our historians | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
-sort of touched on it at the beginning. -Eating some boobs. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
The comedy boob, yeah. Very robust sense of humour, the Tudors. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
Er, it's called Spanish Pap, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:35 | |
-which then links in with the boob joke again. -Right. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
It's cream, sweetened with sugar, | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
flavoured with rose-water, and thickened with rice flour. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
Tell me a little bit more about this, then, Mark. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
Why...you say Spanish Paps, a crude name, why were they given that name? | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
The Pap because of the breast, also because of the texture. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
For baby food... | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
The name "pap" for baby food goes back hundreds of years. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
They wanted to have a go at the Spanish, really, did they? | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
They're possibly having a go at the Spanish. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
One theory is that it looks like a papal hat. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
Well, it's having a go at the Pap-acy, isn't it? The Papacy. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
Yeah, but I personally think it's just comedy boob. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
So Lucy's team, out of all this, apart from trying the dish, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
I'm going to give you a question. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
Your question is, what distinction was made | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
between Mary I and Philip II of Spain | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
in their place settings during their marriage feast? | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
When a woman marries a man, he's her master, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
so they were afraid that Britain, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
in a union, they're going to be controlled by Spain, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
so they're signifying at the wedding banquet... | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
So presumably they're not next to each other, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
or she's much higher than him? | 0:45:39 | 0:45:40 | |
She's seated much higher and he's much lower? | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
You're right in terms of the historical context, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
-but the actual... -He's under the table... | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
He's not under the table. Do any others in your team have an idea? | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
Lucy, Greg? | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
-Anna is straining at the leash here. -Anna is straining at the leash, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
so I'm going to open it to the other side. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
I think gold and silver plates. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:01 | |
-You're spot on. -Ooh! | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
Explain to us who had the gold and who had the silver. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
So it was a problem of precedence and who was in the superior position | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
and, yes, Mary had the gold plate and Philip had the silver plate. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:13 | |
That's it. Absolutely right. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
Mark, I will ask you now to come round and unveil the dish | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
-that Dan's team is about to take a look at... -Need longer arms for this. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
-..and indeed sample. -You get the short straw. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
Now, dig in. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
Here we go, Kirsty, let me... | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
-Thank you so much. -Don't want you missing out. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Really kind of you. I have to ask the questions, though, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
-so... -I think you would have been better with the paps. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
-I'm intrigued. -What are you tasting? | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
-Fish. Haddock. -Fish. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
It's kind of like cold kedgeree. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
Or like egg fried rice served up a week later. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
You like it! Jonathan's going for it. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
-Mark, how long did it take you to make this? -Oh, yeah, no offence! | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
It's fine! | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
No, I'm not going to sulk at all. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
I do have questions to ask you, so stay here. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
What is that our team's tasting? | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
You're eating a blancmange of fish. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Fishy blancmange. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
It's all right! | 0:47:07 | 0:47:08 | |
By my standards, anyway. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
One of those things - when we say "blancmange" | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
you're instantly taken back to the pink milk jelly of schooldays. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
But blancmange is just white food - "blanc manger". | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
-Of course. -Why was white food particularly attractive? | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
It's considered to be easier to digest. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
And what have you put into it, in terms of flavourings, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
-aside from the fish? -It's rice boiled until it bursts, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
and then mixed with almond milk, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
er, mashed fish, and flavoured with | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
a little bit of sugar and some ginger. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
I can taste the ginger, yeah. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
-And do you like it, or...? -It needs a microwave, but... | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
Keeping the dish in mind, then, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
what food-related law - this is your question, for one point - | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
what food-related law in 1563 | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
directly benefitted the Navy Royal? | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
-Oh, well...you had to serve fish on a... -Well, not just on a Friday, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
there were certain days you had to eat fish. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
It was Friday plus another day, wasn't it? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
Cos then more fishermen, more trained seamen for the fleet, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
that could be called up, mobilised in times of war. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
You're absolutely right, and it was introduced on Wednesdays | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
as well as Fridays and Saturdays. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
And in order to sort of...not circumvent it, but honour the law, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
what other things were included under the guise of "fish" | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
that they were allowed to eat? | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Well, you know in the Middle Ages | 0:48:25 | 0:48:26 | |
they thought that barnacle geese were a type of fish | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
because they grew from barnacles... | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
-Yes. And this was included, you're right, barnacle goose. -Yeah. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
-And also puffins. -Beaver. -And beavers, yes, you're quite right. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
And whale, also, was included. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
Now, Mark has made a special drink. The cups are almost full. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
Jonathan, your cup is still to be filled. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
And you have prepared something called what for us? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
This is a white hippocras. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
White hippocras. And what's that made up from? | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
-This one is... -Smells wonderful! | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
..a Rhenish wine, with long pepper, grains of paradise, | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
er, flour of canel, ginger, sugar, and cinnamon. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:07 | |
It's very delicious. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:08 | |
You're supposed to be impartial! You weren't eating the food, but... | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
I can always drink a drink - I'm a Scotswoman, after all! | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
I'm going to ask you, Mark, | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
this very beautiful thing, which I almost don't... | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
I mean, it's so delicate and gorgeous I almost don't want to touch it. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
It looks like we should have some cherries on it, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
but in fact this would have been used as a drinking vessel? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
It's a tatser. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
Can you fill it up? And I'm going to ask Dan, because I don't want you | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
to mess up your beautiful shirt, but I don't mind if Dan messes up his. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
This is where I throw it over everybody, isn't it? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
So this would have been used to drink from. And Dan, do be careful, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
but I want you to have a go at drinking from this. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
-This tatser, as you said it was called. -OK. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
Now, it does look as if it was made from very fine and ancient porcelain. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
-Yeah. -Mark, you tell me what it's made of, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
-tell everybody. It's extraordinary. -That one's actually made from sugar. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
-What?! -Careful you don't tip it! | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
But yeah, that's actually made from sugar. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
Are you going to...? Can we break some off? | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:50:05 | 0:50:06 | |
That's amazing! | 0:50:06 | 0:50:07 | |
-Is it...? -Yeah! | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
Christmas in the Snow household will never be the same. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
Drink and eat at the same time! | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
It's like an archaeological object now, isn't it? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
I imagine made with moulds, but terrifically difficult to make. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
-Yes. -Oh, thanks! He's just proved how hard it is to drink out of. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
Sorry! | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
-Did he spill it? -All over me. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
What's this one made out of? | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
I have to say to you, it has been | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
fascinating, delightful and intriguing. Thank you very much | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
for bringing all this historical food and drink along. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
Now, as our final part of our Tudor feast, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
I want to introduce you to a very special guest. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
And here he is. This is Whiskey. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
Now, Whiskey, for a bonus question, can you tell me | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
what this little animal would have been used for in a Tudor kitchen? | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
-Can I answer? -You can answer. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
We don't have buzzers, but you can certainly answer. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
IMITATES BUZZER | 0:51:07 | 0:51:08 | |
Tell me about Whiskey. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:09 | |
Whiskey is supposed to be the last surviving spit dog, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:14 | |
which is a kind of dog that was bred | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
to have a long body and short little legs, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
so it would run about in a little wheel | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
and it would stop you having to turn the spit manually. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
You're absolutely right, turn the spit with the meat on it. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
He's the Turnspit Dog. Well done. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
There is nothing about Whiskey, the little Turnspit Dog, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
that is not interesting. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:39 | |
You already have secured your point, but can you, or can anybody, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
tell me what might have been done - | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
of really unspeakable cruelty, I have to say - | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
to make little Whiskey run faster on his wheel? | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
Did it involve the enema pipe? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
It didn't involve the enema pipe! | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
Was there fire put under the wheel, to make him run? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Yeah, they would throw coals onto the wheel to make him run faster, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
because his little paws were hot. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
Turnspit dogs apparently were used as feet-warmers in church on a Sunday. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
What a life they had! | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
Well, thank you all for being so very game. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
After that round we can reveal that Lucy's team have 20 points | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
and Dan's team have 25 points. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
Now it's time to play our final round. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
So finally, having spent a while looking at how the Tudors lived, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
it seems entirely appropriate that our last round | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
is about how they died. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
This is a quickfire round, with questions worth a point. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
Equally, teams, I should tell you that an incorrect answer | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
will result in you being deducted a point. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
Greg looks really happy at that. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
So fingers on buzzers, teams, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
and let's play The Last Word. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
Which monarch said, "When I am dead and opened, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
"you shall find..." BUZZER | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Mary I. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:07 | |
That's right. "You shall find Calais lying on my heart." | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
One point to you. Which Elizabethan playwright was stabbed to death | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
in a pub in Deptford... BELL | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
That was Christopher Marlowe. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
It was Christopher Marlowe, it was in a row over a bill. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
Who said that he believed the mercy of Christ | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
would "pardon me all my sins, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:24 | |
"yea, though they were greater than can be," on his deathbed? | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
I'll move on - that was Henry VIII. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
According to popular tradition, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
which Elizabethan statesman died from pneumonia | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
during an experiment... BELL | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
-Francis Bacon. -It was Francis Bacon. What was the experiment? | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
He was stuffing a chicken with snow. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
He WAS stuffing a chicken with snow! | 0:53:43 | 0:53:44 | |
Whose death was described as "mildly, like a lamb, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
"easily, like a..." BUZZER | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
-Elizabeth I. -That's right. It was mild like a lamb, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
"easily, like a ripe apple from the tree." | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
Whose body and severed head was placed in an old arrow chest | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
immediately after her execution in 1536? | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
BELL | 0:54:02 | 0:54:03 | |
-That would be Anne Boleyn. -It was Anne Boleyn. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
"Most gracious prince, I cry for mercy, mercy, mercy." | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
-It's not working! It is. -BELL | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
Thomas Cromwell. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:13 | |
It was Thomas Cromwell. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:14 | |
Written to Henry VIII, was the end of that question. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
Whose wife, named Elizabeth, is said to have carried his severed head | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
in a bag... BELL | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
-Raleigh. -It was Walter Raleigh. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
Carried his severed head in a bag for 29 years. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
Who was the chief mourner | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
at the funeral of Henry's widow Catherine Parr? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
BELL | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
-Was it Elizabeth? -No, it wasn't. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
-It was Lady Jane Grey, you lose a point. -Sorry. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
For which monarch were two funeral services held, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
one Protestant, the other Catholic? | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
BUZZER What's your answer? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
-Edward VI. -It was Edward VI. Next question. How was Richard Roose, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
the cook of the Bishop of Rochester, executed? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
BELL | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
Boiled alive. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:53 | |
He was boiled alive for two hours, apparently. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
Which Tudor statesman... | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
END OF ROUND KLAXON | 0:54:58 | 0:54:59 | |
Well, that sound signals the end of the round | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
and indeed, the end of the quiz. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
I can tell you that Lucy's team have 25 points | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
and Dan's team have 28 points! | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
So Dan's team get the silver Tudor groats, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
and I'm afraid that Lucy's team, it's off to the Tower for you, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
where else? | 0:55:27 | 0:55:28 | |
The only thing left to do, then, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
is to pay one last visit to our Tudor timeline. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
Here it is. Full of the people and events that have made this | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
one of the most remarkable periods in British history. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
Thank you to our wonderful historians, Lucy, Greg and Kate, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
and Dan, Jonathan and Anna. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:56:00 | 0:56:01 | |
I'd like to thank all of you for watching, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
and in the words of that great Elizabethan, William Shakespeare, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
put out the light... | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
and then put out the light. Goodnight. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 |