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APPLAUSE

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Hello and welcome to the Great History Quiz.

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The show where we give you, the viewer, the chance to

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pit your wits against some of the country's most respected historians.

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Between them, these people have got 16 university degrees,

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they've written 18 books

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and contributed over 200 hours of television.

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So good luck.

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Today's show is dedicated to that notorious dynasty, the Tudors,

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who ruled the country from 1485 to 1603.

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A turbulent period that changed the face of British history forever.

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Along the way, we will taste some Tudor dishes,

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encounter some Tudor artefacts

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and reveal some dubious medical advice and we will also

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unearth some deadly secrets.

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But first, let's meet our teams.

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Captaining the team on my right, we have the broadcaster

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and chief curator at Historic Royal Palaces, Dr Lucy Worsley.

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APPLAUSE

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Lucy, would you like to do the honours

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and introduce your fellow historians?

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Thanks, Kirsty, I've got all the bases covered in my excellent

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team tonight.

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To my right, I've got Professor Kate Williams and, to my left,

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Greg Jenner, who is the head nerd at Horrible Histories.

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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And captain of the opposing team tonight is the historian

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and broadcaster Dan Snow.

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Dan, please do the honours.

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Right, well, I'm going to be fine cos I've got two doctors of history.

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To my right, I've got Dr Anna Whitelock

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who specialises in high politics

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and then Jonathan Foyle on my left who specialises in tall buildings.

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APPLAUSE

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But before we begin, let me introduce you to the Tudor timeline.

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It begins with the fall of Richard III

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at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485

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and it ends with the death of Elizabeth in 1603.

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By the time we are done, the timeline will be furnished with

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all the characters and events that made this such a colourful period.

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So let's remind ourselves of the monarchs' places on the timeline.

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It all began with Henry VII,

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who came to the throne in 1485.

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Henry VIII in 1509.

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Then we have his son Edward VI in 1547.

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Then his daughter Mary I in 1553

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and, finally, Elizabeth I in 1558 whose reign closed the Tudor period

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in 1603.

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But now on with the quiz - Round 1.

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And let's meet the cast.

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DRUMS BEAT

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APPLAUSE

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So in this round, we're going to enter

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a gallery of movers and shakers from the Tudor courts.

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Teams, I'm going to show you four portraits, each will be accompanied

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by a biographical statement with some crucial information missing.

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All you have to do is identify who the portrait depicts - you get

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two points for that - and fill in the blank of that statement for another.

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So, Lucy, your team are up first, please walk into our Tudor gallery.

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APPLAUSE

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So, Lucy's team is starting with the top left portrait.

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Can you tell me, then, who that is?

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It's Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex.

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Of course, the man who managed to get Henry married to Anne.

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So, you are quite right, of course, it is Thomas Cromwell.

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And the question that goes then with this portrait is -

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Catherine Howard.

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Oh, you didn't hesitate at all. For another point, absolutely.

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Tell us a little bit then,

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Kate, about what it was that happened to Catherine Howard.

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Thomas Cromwell fell from favour because he tried to get Henry

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married to Anne of Cleves and Anne of Cleves was not to Henry's liking.

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Instead, he preferred her lady-in-waiting,

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the beautiful, young Catherine Howard

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but unfortunately she was discovered as having committed, he said,

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adultery, with his favourite courtier, Thomas Culpeper.

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And that was the beginning of her downfall, so she was executed.

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Let's move on then to your second portrait, just move one along

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on that top row and tell me who we are looking at now.

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I think we are looking at Thomas Cranmer.

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The marvellous architect of the Reformation.

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And curiously, he was Catherine Parr's uncle so you realise

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how incestuous it was at the court, that he was this great architect

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of the Reformation and then the uncle of Henry VIII's last wife.

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So Thomas Cranmer was Archbishop of Canterbury.

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Oh, that would be, erm,

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-Anne Boleyn.

-Anne Boleyn.

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Indeed, it was Anne Boleyn and why might he have been so upset?

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He was the family chaplain to the Boleyn family, I think,

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and they brought him in to the court so he had more or less

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climbed on their coat-tails and so her death was quite sad,

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-I think, for him.

-A bad day.

-Bad day, yeah, definitely.

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You don't get a point for that, I was just interested.

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LAUGHTER

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We'll move on now to your third portrait.

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Are we, team, looking at Sir Francis Walsingham?

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-So, he was the spy master to Elizabeth.

-He looks like a good

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spy master to me, you know, MI6 have nothing on him.

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It's the fact he's almost completely in shadow.

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-LUCY LAUGHS

-Yes!

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You're quite right, it is Francis Walsingham.

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Walsingham was Elizabeth's spy master.

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-A Catholic?

-LAUGHTER

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He did not say that. He said...

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there is nothing more dangerous than security.

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-Let's go on, then, to your fourth portrait.

-Yeah, Wolsey.

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-Cardinal Wolsey.

-Absolutely.

-Looking strong.

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The words that are often used about him are like

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-a spider in a web of power.

-A familiar, a god?

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-Ipse rex - the King himself.

-Oh, the king himself.

-Wow.

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OK, that is the end of your round, thank you very much.

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APPLAUSE

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I can feel a little bit of nerves from Dan's team now,

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cos they did so well.

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Dan, if you and your team would enter the gallery.

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APPLAUSE

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Right, Dan's team then, starting with the top left portrait,

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can you tell me who we are looking at?

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Well, it is either the early Tudor all-star champion swimmer...

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Or Henry FitzRoy.

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-Could be.

-Is that Henry FitzRoy?

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Henry FitzRoy, Duke of Richmond, bastard son of Henry VIII, I think.

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And he's got one of the most flamboyant tombs of Tudor England

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in Framlingham church in Suffolk.

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You are quite right, absolutely, Henry FitzRoy.

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-Oh, Catherine of Aragon.

-Catherine of Aragon.

-Oh, yes.

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Catherine of Aragon. LAUGHTER

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OK, let's go on to your second portrait.

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Who are we looking at here?

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I'm feeling good about this one, I think it is a young,

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fairly handsome Philip of Spain.

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Well, I don't know what your category for handsome is,

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but you're certainly right on that - Philip II of Spain, you're right.

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As an old man, he really started to fall apart.

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You're quite right, Dan, Philip II of Spain.

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Ah, he proposed to his former sister-in-law Elizabeth I,

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needing to maintain the alliance with England.

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It wasn't a love match, this one?

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No, he didn't want to make the proposal

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and it was suggested that it would be a good idea to him

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and he kind of crossed his fingers and hoped she'd say no

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-and in fact she did say no...

-Right.

-..but England was such

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a prize at the time, that he was prepared to consider it

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to maintain that all-important Anglo-Spanish alliance.

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Let's go on to your third portrait then, who's this?

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That is tricky.

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-Thomas Seymour.

-I think it is Seymour.

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And I think you're absolutely spot on with that.

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The King was Edward VI.

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-Erm...

-Oh, it's, his, erm, his brother.

-He would have called...

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-Yeah, Edward Seymour.

-You got there, Anna.

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-His brother was the Lord Protector, Edward Seymour.

-Yeah.

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And what was it that Thomas had been arrested for?

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Just give me a little bit of context.

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-Did he shoot the King's dog?

-LAUGHTER

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-Well, I don't think that is what he was arrested for.

-I know,

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but I think he shot his puppy.

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Well, he was attempting to break into King Edward VI's apartments

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and you're right, he shot his spaniel in all the confusion.

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And he of course is the infamous character who apparently had

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romps with the young Princess Elizabeth when she was 13, 14

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-so he was a character of dubious moral virtue, I think.

-He looks it.

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Let's go on to your fourth then.

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I like this lady a lot, she is Elizabeth of York...

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-Absolutely.

-..which is where it all began.

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-Her and Henry VII.

-She spawned the Tudors.

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They got it on and here we are today.

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LAUGHTER

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I think Henry VII gets too much credit for it.

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I mean, she gave birth to the whole dynasty really.

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OK, let me give you a follow-up question for a point.

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-Bed?

-LAUGHTER

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I'm going to need something more than that for the point!

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Would it be Nonsuch Palace or would it be Greenwich?

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Nonsuch didn't happen yet.

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It's Richmond, it's Westminster or Greenwich,

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are the main three palaces.

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Which are we going to go for?

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-If we know, can we say?

-I'd go Greenwich.

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Greenwich.

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Well, you're wrong, you won't get a point but...

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It's the Tower of London.

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It is the Tower of London.

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You did very well, Dan's team, do take your seats.

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APPLAUSE

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Thank you to both of our teams and after that round of revelations,

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Lucy's team has 10 and Dan's team has 11 points.

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APPLAUSE

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So now it is on to the Artefacts Round.

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DRUMS BEAT

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APPLAUSE

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Henry VIII's ill-fated warship the Mary Rose

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sank off the coast of Portsmouth in 1545.

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Its contents and crew remained on the seabed for over 400 years

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before it was raised in 1982.

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On loan from the Mary Rose Museum, under the watchful eye

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of the collection specialist Simon Weir,

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are several items that were salvaged from this unique Tudor time capsule.

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Teams, I'm going to ask you to identify the artefacts' original use,

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that's going to give you one point,

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and then I'm going to ask you a follow-up question for another point.

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So, Lucy's team, your treasures are there,

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let's go and take a look at them, from the Mary Rose.

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APPLAUSE

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So, Kate, you are up first and because they're so precious,

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I'm going to ask Simon please to come in

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and just help you take a closer look.

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Oh, yes, would you turn it for me, Simon? Thank you.

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So, Kate, what do you think you are looking at here?

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Well, it looks a bit like it's some sort of Tudor toasting fork maybe,

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that you could put your sandwich in there and it looks a bit

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like it is styled in the sense of a dragon or a snake

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because you've got two little indentations here that look like

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little eyes and, obviously, we know that the Mary Rose... You know,

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19,000 objects, a lot of those retrieved were weaponry

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because it was a warship but at the same time it was a home

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and a community and a workplace, so I think maybe,

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cross my fingers for toasting fork, something to do with cooking.

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Right. I'm going to ask your team-mates to come in and see

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-if they can help you out, because it is not a toasting fork.

-Oh, no.

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-Charming as that idea is.

-Help me, team-mates, help me!

-Anybody?

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I think I know what this is, I think it's called a linstock.

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I think you put the match in it and you use that to light the cannon,

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if I remember rightly.

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Greg, you're spot on, it is called a linstock.

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APPLAUSE

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It is so beautifully carved.

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It is beautifully carved, you can see how ornate it is there,

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and as you say, it is like a dragon's head.

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Kate, on this follow-up question, you can confer.

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Running a Navy the size of the English fleet

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was, as you can imagine, a very expensive business.

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In 1567, what means was established to help generate additional funds?

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There is a Tudor lottery, there is a national lottery.

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A national lottery. There was also a devaluation of the coinage.

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I'm going to pop in and tell you that he's got that right.

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LAUGHTER

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Greg has got the point.

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There were 400,000 tickets available

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and I'm told that ticket holders were also promised freedom from

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arrest from all crimes,

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other than murder, felonies, piracy or treason.

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-But the immunity only lasted a week.

-Those are the good crimes!

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LAUGHTER

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But what a week! What an amazing week!

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Lucy, by contrast, you've got something very small and delicate.

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I'm going to ask Simon to come round to lift it up

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so you can have a closer look at it.

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And once you have had a good look,

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tell us what you think you are looking at from the Mary Rose.

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I think it is a little bobbin for making lace or something like that.

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So you would attach... You'd use it to weight down thread,

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is that correct?

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That is a very charming thought

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and it couldn't be further from the truth.

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I've not been looking at the little spoon, it is a little salt spoon.

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Simon, in fact, you tell us what it is and what it was used for.

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-This is an ear scoop.

-Yes.

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You spotted the little scoop on the end there,

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so that would just lift out the ear wax.

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-Fantastic.

-Excessive ear wax solution?

-Yeah.

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So it's an ear scoop for scooping out the wax

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and then that wax would delightfully be used for what particular purpose?

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-They could use it on...

-Greasing the cannon?

-..greasing bow strings.

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Yes, the archers used it for the...

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So archers could use it. Or for threads, this sort of thing.

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I've just remembered that Henry VIII gave Anne Boleyn

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a golden ear scoop as a present during their courtship

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and the message in that case was, Anne, I want to be in your ears.

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LAUGHTER

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So, just hold the thought of this earwax being used by the archers.

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The question I want to ask you,

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what was outlawed in the Act of 1541 as being detrimental to the proper

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and lawful pursuit of archery?

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Football.

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Actually football and everything else.

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Anything that was much fun at all. What do you know about that?

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This is the hypocrisy from Henry

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cos we know he owned the world's first pair of football boots.

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He loved football. He played football.

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And the reason that all these things were banned, all these games,

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and tennis and dice and quoits and everything was

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because they wanted people to concentrate on the archery.

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-And military service.

-Yes.

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-And you were meant to do it until you were 60.

-Between 17 and 60.

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17 and 60 you were meant to be fit enough to be able to fight in the

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Navy or the Army if need be.

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So, Simon I'm going to ask you to come round now

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and let's take a look at Greg's artefact from the Mary Rose.

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Let's take a closer look at this and, Greg, can you identify this?

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-What are we looking at?

-It's got to be a syringe.

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It's got to be medical, hasn't it? It's got to be a syringe.

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Sailors had a fairly dodgy reputation for

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when they got into port and they found the ladies

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and I think quite often they contracted illnesses

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and those illnesses were downstairs illnesses and they needed a cure.

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And I think... This is a horrible thing to say.

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I think this is a urethra syringe,

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it basically pumps mercury up a gentleman's John Thomas.

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LAUGHTER

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So delicately put. You are so right.

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It is a urethral syringe. And this treatment with mercury,

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do you have any idea what phrase it gave birth to in the language?

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You spend an evening...

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-"Five minutes with Venus..."

-That's it.

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-BOTH:

-"..and a lifetime with mercury."

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-That's right. That's what it was.

-Yeah.

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So syphilis was called the Italian disease in France.

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It was called the Polish disease in Russia.

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It was called the Spanish disease in the Netherlands,

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the Christian disease in Turkey, and the British disease in Tahiti.

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-What was it known as in England?

-The French disease.

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-Of course it was.

-Especially on the Mary Rose, the enemy.

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-The French disease.

-Yes.

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And the French thought that the English disease was flagellation.

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LAUGHTER

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You don't get a point for that but I am fascinated.

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I must ask you more about that later.

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-OK, thank you very much, Lucy's team. You can have a seat.

-Thank you.

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APPLAUSE

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Dan's team, if you can come up now.

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APPLAUSE

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So, Anna, we go to you first.

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And as you know you can look but you can't touch.

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I'm going to ask Simon to come in again and just lift up

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-Anna's artefact and let her have a closer look. Any ideas, Anna?

-No.

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-Not immediately. OK, so it's wooden...

-Yeah, it's made from wood.

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-..with different sections in...

-Markings, yeah.

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..with some markings.

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Is it some kind of primitive kind of calendar...?

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Well, it is numbers related but not to do with calendars.

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OK, I'm going to open this up to your whole team.

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Dan, you're looking as if you might have a bit of a clue here.

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Is it a navigation aid?

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-You didn't have a clue.

-I didn't...

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-LAUGHTER

-He was just wondering.

-I'm going to tell you what it is.

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It's called a tally stick and essentially it was a receipt system

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that was used and the notches recorded transactions.

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So it was used for administering rations.

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So there would be a stick on either side. Isn't that right, Simon?

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-Absolutely.

-And it would be notched across. And if it matched up with the rations

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-that were given to you.

-That's it.

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-How would I ever have got that?

-Here's your follow-up question.

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I wonder how you're going to get this then.

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In 1596 Sir Hugh Plat persistently campaigned for the adoption

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of which new foodstuff to be included in naval rations?

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It's quite late so would it be some sort of potato thing

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-going on or would it be some citrus-y thing?

-It could be...

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-It's even more sophisticated.

-It's not sugar...

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OK, more sophisticated than potatoes(!)

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-JONATHAN:

-Cocoa.

-Wowee(!)

-Chocolate.

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-That's my cooking maxing out...

-South American by this time, chocolate.

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-It's carbohydrate-based.

-OK, carbohydrate-based.

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-JONATHAN:

-Pain au chocolat.

-I think I'm going to have to tell you.

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I think you're going to have to tell us.

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-It was pasta.

-Pasta.

-Yeah.

-Wow.

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This is the earliest published reference to pasta in English,

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it was in Plat's work of 1594 and his campaign was in fact successful in at

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least one case because records show Sir Francis Drake commissioned Plat

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to make a large quantity of pasta for at least one of his voyages.

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Right, let's move on then, Dan, to your artefact.

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Something a little bit more substantial.

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-Simon is going to lift it so that you can examine it well...

-Thank you.

0:19:240:19:27

..and tell us what you think this is and what it was used for.

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Well, I think it's a very light piece of artillery

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and you would put some... You would ram a charge home,

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you'd ram some gunpowder home, you'd put a projectile in,

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and then you'd put a little bit of gunpowder on there,

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and then you'd prick that so that the gunpowder goes through to the

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big charge, light it there and, bang, you can shoot at the French.

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And would you manage to have a name? You could confer.

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Tudor artillery, terrifying, because every single cannon had a completely different name.

0:19:510:19:55

It's going to be something obvious like a handgun.

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You get the point. It's called hailshot

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-and it was cube-shaped shots. Is that right, Simon?

-That's right.

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It would be used this way.

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This is the wooden stock which is the handle that fits in the end.

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They could rest this on the side of the deck

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and it would fire a couple of dozen iron dies.

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That's what's so amazing on the Mary Rose.

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You get cannon and gunpowder weapons,

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but you've also got loads of longbowmen.

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-So you've got those medieval and early modern worlds colliding.

-Exactly.

0:20:200:20:24

I'm going to give you a follow-up question

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cos we're thinking about artillery, we're thinking about firearms.

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What's the connection between firearms

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and James Stewart the half-brother of Mary, Queen of Scots?

0:20:300:20:34

Well, didn't he blow himself up?

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He was a huge firearms enthusiast and he...

0:20:360:20:39

-Is this the right James Stewart?

-I think you're right. Go on.

0:20:390:20:42

There's so many James Stewarts who ended badly but I think he was

0:20:420:20:45

next to his favourite cannon and it blew up and killed him.

0:20:450:20:49

Yeah. I only wish that that were the case cos it's a very good story.

0:20:490:20:52

LAUGHTER

0:20:520:20:54

In 1570, his was the first recorded assassination with a firearm.

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OK.

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It was up in Linlithgow this happened.

0:21:010:21:03

Used to be quite a rough place, Linlithgow. Not any longer.

0:21:030:21:05

You didn't get your points but well done for guessing.

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Let's move on then to Jonathan. And, Simon, if you come forward,

0:21:070:21:10

lift this up for Jonathan and the rest of us to have a little look at.

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-JONATHAN:

-If you could turn that around, Simon, thank you.

0:21:150:21:17

-There we go.

-So it's a beautifully made thing, isn't it? Very precise.

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And it has a little cut at this end which looks like a reed.

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But at the far end,

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it seems that it was supposed to be attached to something else.

0:21:260:21:30

So I'm going to guess that's a reed for some kind of hornpipe.

0:21:300:21:35

Well, I'll tell you what, Jonathan,

0:21:350:21:37

you can use it as a hornpipe if you want but I certainly wouldn't.

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-ANNA:

-I think I know what. Is it an enema pipe?

0:21:390:21:41

-It is an enema pipe.

-No!

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LAUGHTER

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And do you know, Anna, what it might have had attached to the end?

0:21:450:21:48

That was well spotted by you.

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-And that sort of...

-What kind of a tune can you get out of that?

0:21:490:21:53

-ANNA:

-No. I wouldn't... I don't really want to think...

0:21:530:21:56

It was... Am I right, Simon, it was a pig's bladder?

0:21:560:21:59

That's right. It would have had a pig's bladder fitted at this end

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where they would have put the liquid

0:22:020:22:04

and then that would be inserted you know where. And, yes,

0:22:040:22:08

for treating constipation or stomach problems or whatever.

0:22:080:22:12

Everybody in the audience is sitting a little higher in their seats.

0:22:120:22:15

LAUGHTER

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-ANNA:

-What's crazy is like that actually was there.

0:22:160:22:19

You just don't know where that's been, quite literally.

0:22:190:22:22

Why do you think Simon is wearing gloves?

0:22:220:22:24

-ANNA:

-Exactly.

0:22:240:22:26

So I want to ask you your follow-up question for an extra bonus point.

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Which product, introduced into England in Tudor times,

0:22:300:22:33

was later administered via enemas?

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-Tobacco.

-ANNA:

-Tobacco, yeah. That's it.

0:22:370:22:39

-Tobacco.

-They thought tobacco could cure all kinds of things.

0:22:390:22:43

You're absolutely right.

0:22:430:22:44

Among them, do you know what they thought it could cure?

0:22:440:22:47

-Cancer...

-Yeah.

-..lockjaw...

-Constipation.

-Constipation. Everything.

0:22:470:22:51

Heavy breathing.

0:22:510:22:53

LAUGHTER

0:22:530:22:54

Clears the airways.

0:22:540:22:55

You get a point for that.

0:22:550:22:57

-Tobacco enema.

-Well done.

-Dan's team, thank you very much.

0:22:570:23:00

APPLAUSE

0:23:020:23:03

So, Simon, I'm going to ask you now to please bring on our bonus artefact

0:23:090:23:12

for both teams to have a look at.

0:23:120:23:15

It's from Henry VIII's flagship, the Mary Rose.

0:23:150:23:18

It is the magnificent ship's bell,

0:23:180:23:21

which is the centrepiece of the collection

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and it would, normally, only be seen inside the case at the museum.

0:23:230:23:26

So we are very fortunate to be seeing it here today.

0:23:260:23:29

So, as I say, for an extra point, on your buzzers, teams.

0:23:290:23:33

Can you tell me why this was the most significant find

0:23:330:23:38

for Mary Rose archaeologists?

0:23:380:23:40

BUZZER Dan's team. And it's Dan buzzing.

0:23:400:23:43

Cos it was conclusive evidence that it was, in fact, the Mary Rose?

0:23:430:23:46

You're absolutely right. So you get the point for that and...

0:23:460:23:48

Tell me more about that. What was it particularly about this bell?

0:23:480:23:52

Er, well, the bell had certain markings on it

0:23:520:23:56

that meant that it could only be

0:23:560:23:58

connected with the Mary Rose.

0:23:580:23:59

LAUGHTER

0:23:590:24:02

So it was engraved in Flemish

0:24:020:24:05

and the engraving reads,

0:24:050:24:07

"I was made in the year 1510."

0:24:070:24:09

And there was only one other ship that was made in that same year.

0:24:090:24:13

Might you know what that ship was?

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Was it called the Henry Grace a Dieu?

0:24:150:24:17

Was it the Phoenix Pomegranate?

0:24:170:24:19

-It was the Peter Pomegranate.

-Peter Pomegranate!

-Whoa!

0:24:190:24:21

Yes, and so, purely by deduction

0:24:210:24:25

and of looking at the bell, and knowing that the Pomegranate

0:24:250:24:27

-hadn't sunk, because I think it sailed until 1558...

-Yep.

0:24:270:24:30

-..they knew this must be the Mary Rose.

-This must be the Mary Rose.

0:24:300:24:33

So thank you very much indeed to Simon from the Mary Rose Museum.

0:24:330:24:36

We do very much appreciate you bringing in these artefacts.

0:24:360:24:39

APPLAUSE

0:24:390:24:41

Well, after that round, I can reveal

0:24:490:24:51

that Lucy's team has 15 points

0:24:510:24:53

and Dan's team has 15 points, too.

0:24:530:24:56

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:24:560:24:58

LAUGHTER

0:24:590:25:01

So it's on to our next round and that is going to be...

0:25:030:25:06

all about medicine.

0:25:060:25:09

APPLAUSE

0:25:130:25:16

In this round, our historians will be tested on Tudor diseases

0:25:170:25:21

and their remedies via a peculiar branch of folk medicine,

0:25:210:25:25

known as the doctrine of signatures.

0:25:250:25:27

The Tudors bought into the idea that

0:25:270:25:30

if a plant resembled a part of the anatomy,

0:25:300:25:33

then it could cure that body part if things went wrong.

0:25:330:25:37

This notion dated back to the Ancient Greeks

0:25:370:25:39

and it wasn't always as mad as it sounds.

0:25:390:25:41

For instance, when it came to ginger,

0:25:410:25:44

due to its resemblance to the stomach,

0:25:440:25:46

it was thought to cure digestive complaints.

0:25:460:25:49

Luckily for them, it did.

0:25:490:25:50

However, shepherd's purse was thought to aid blood circulation

0:25:500:25:54

and perhaps you can maybe even hazard a guess at what orchid bulbs

0:25:540:25:57

were used to treat. LAUGHTER

0:25:570:25:59

Lucy's team, you are going to be using the doctrine of signatures

0:26:010:26:04

to answer questions on the medical history of Henry VIII.

0:26:040:26:08

And you have, in front of you, some Tudor remedies.

0:26:080:26:12

I want you to tell me which of Henry's many health problems

0:26:120:26:15

these could have been used to treat, according to the doctrine.

0:26:150:26:18

And, Lucy, I'm going to ask you, first of all,

0:26:180:26:20

to look at the furthest away remedy.

0:26:200:26:22

CLICKING

0:26:220:26:23

And tell me a little bit about this.

0:26:230:26:26

Which of Henry's ailments might it have been used to treat?

0:26:260:26:29

Bearing in mind what body part it looks like.

0:26:290:26:33

Well, I think these are walnuts.

0:26:330:26:34

They are walnuts, yes.

0:26:340:26:36

-So, considering Henry had malaria, leg ulcers.

-Yep.

0:26:360:26:40

-Gout?

-And smallpox, gout.

0:26:400:26:44

-Allegedly, syphilis, some say.

-Allegedly, syphilis.

0:26:440:26:47

-Is it a brain or is it the male member?

-Oh!

0:26:470:26:48

Well, he falls off his horse.

0:26:480:26:50

-Yeah, so it looks a bit like a brain inside a cranium.

-So he fell off

0:26:500:26:53

-his horse, didn't he, in 1536?

-And was in a coma for...

0:26:530:26:55

-BOTH:

-..two hours.

0:26:550:26:57

And, after that, people thought, perhaps he'd been unconscious

0:26:570:27:00

for two hours and it had slightly changed the make-up of his brain.

0:27:000:27:03

And he did suffer terrible headaches

0:27:030:27:05

after his first jousting incident in 1524.

0:27:050:27:08

So I think now people began to wonder, had his character changed?

0:27:080:27:10

There were some historians who think that what happened to Henry

0:27:100:27:13

during 1536 - the quick way he turned against Anne Boleyn -

0:27:130:27:16

is due to the fact that he fell off his horse

0:27:160:27:19

and his brain had some kind of injury.

0:27:190:27:21

Yes, you're absolutely right. I mean, the walnut looks like a brain

0:27:210:27:24

and this was used to treat these headaches

0:27:240:27:25

-that Henry suffered from.

-Fantastic.

-Mm.

-And, as you say,

0:27:250:27:28

after the jousting incident.

0:27:280:27:30

You've got your point for that, then, Lucy's team.

0:27:300:27:32

I want to ask you your follow-up question. Again, for a point.

0:27:320:27:36

Henry changed the laws on insanity in 1542,

0:27:360:27:40

in order to facilitate the execution of which...?

0:27:400:27:42

Jane Boleyn. So...

0:27:420:27:44

He did so, because this was Jane Boleyn, who was the waiting woman

0:27:440:27:47

of Catherine Howard and she was also the sister-in-law of Anne Boleyn.

0:27:470:27:50

And there was damning evidence that she facilitated

0:27:500:27:53

Catherine Howard's affairs.

0:27:530:27:55

And Catherine Howard approached the block with great dignity,

0:27:550:27:58

but Jane Boleyn, in the run-up to being executed,

0:27:580:28:01

she went completely mad. She had a nervous breakdown.

0:28:010:28:04

And so Henry had to change the law that made it possible to execute

0:28:040:28:08

people who were mad, for the first time ever, and that's what he did.

0:28:080:28:11

Kate, that was a wonderfully fulsome answer.

0:28:110:28:13

I think it deserves a round of applause. Well done.

0:28:130:28:15

APPLAUSE

0:28:150:28:18

Now let's go on to your second question.

0:28:180:28:21

And I see you already do have your gloves on, which is just as well,

0:28:210:28:24

because this is... It is highly poisonous,

0:28:240:28:27

-what we are about to ask you to look at here.

-Oh, my goodness.

0:28:270:28:29

Unsurprisingly, probably, for Tudor medicine.

0:28:290:28:32

Just have a little examination of that and, again,

0:28:320:28:34

bear in mind that it relates to the body part that it would be used

0:28:340:28:37

to treat the problem of.

0:28:370:28:39

Oh, he was constipated, wasn't he?

0:28:390:28:41

And he's constipated, so these are

0:28:410:28:43

small king droppings, aren't they?

0:28:430:28:47

Somebody up there knows what it is.

0:28:470:28:48

LAUGHTER

0:28:480:28:50

It's called pileworts...

0:28:500:28:52

-Oh, no!

-Is it?

-Oh!

-..or a celandine root, yes.

0:28:520:28:55

-Ah, fantastic.

-And it was to treat His Majesty's piles.

0:28:550:28:58

Is that what piles look like?

0:28:580:29:00

LAUGHTER

0:29:000:29:02

-Don't play the innocent with me, Lucy Worsley.

-I wouldn't know!

0:29:020:29:05

What would the piles have been down to, Greg,

0:29:050:29:07

in terms of his diet and so on?

0:29:070:29:08

-Well, I mean, he eats an enormous amount of meat.

-Yes.

0:29:080:29:12

Something like 5,500 calories a day.

0:29:120:29:14

Which is too many calories.

0:29:140:29:16

-Don't do that.

-LAUGHTER

0:29:160:29:17

And really no fibre at all, because vegetables are seen

0:29:170:29:20

as something for poor people and there is really no...

0:29:200:29:23

Well, he eats vegetables, but he eats them cooked and boiled.

0:29:230:29:26

-And not much fruit.

-And you don't eat the fruit raw, because it's

0:29:260:29:28

-thought to cause plague.

-He's on the Atkins diet.

0:29:280:29:31

-LAUGHTER

-Yeah, exactly. It's all meat.

0:29:310:29:33

And he also, of course, rides a horse a lot.

0:29:330:29:34

In the Middle Ages, bum diseases were very common for knights.

0:29:340:29:38

-LAUGHTER

-A really, really common problem.

0:29:380:29:40

In the Crusades in the 14th century, a lot of doctors were specialists

0:29:400:29:43

in bottom surgery.

0:29:430:29:45

I think we've probably worn the subject out now.

0:29:450:29:47

I could do hours on this. It's fine. Bottoms are my thing.

0:29:470:29:49

So let me just give you a follow-up question

0:29:490:29:52

on the celandine roots, also known as pileworts.

0:29:520:29:54

Which position at court, held by Sir William Compton, Sir Henry Norris

0:29:540:29:58

and Sir Anthony Denny, during the reign of Henry VIII,

0:29:580:30:01

would have given them an intimate knowledge

0:30:010:30:04

of Henry's haemorrhoids?

0:30:040:30:06

-That would be the groom of the stool.

-Mm.

0:30:060:30:08

The groom of the stool's job was to help his master

0:30:080:30:11

use the royal chamber pot.

0:30:110:30:14

And it was a very privileged position.

0:30:140:30:16

You're quite right. You got your point. You wanted to come in, Greg?

0:30:160:30:19

Also, he had a very important medical job

0:30:190:30:21

in that he would be inspecting the king's droppings and also his urine,

0:30:210:30:24

because Tudor medicine is based on Hippocratic medicine,

0:30:240:30:28

which is Ancient Greek medicine.

0:30:280:30:29

And urine, the colour of your urine, the consistency of your faeces

0:30:290:30:33

would tell people immediately if the King was ill.

0:30:330:30:36

And then, of course, they would be able to call in the doctors and say,

0:30:360:30:39

the King is looking a little bit splatty today.

0:30:390:30:41

LAUGHTER AND GROANING

0:30:410:30:44

Lucy's team, that's quite enough. And thank you very much.

0:30:440:30:46

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:30:460:30:49

So, Dan's team, it is your turn.

0:30:510:30:54

Dan, do get your gloves on and prepare for...

0:30:540:30:57

-You pick that one up.

-..the doctrine of signatures.

-It looks a bit scary.

0:30:570:31:00

To answer questions on the medical history of Elizabeth I.

0:31:000:31:03

Oh.

0:31:030:31:05

So let's take a look, first of all, at the plant.

0:31:050:31:08

-This one?

-Oh.

-Yeah.

0:31:080:31:10

It's called henbane.

0:31:100:31:12

Which of Elizabeth ailments might this cure have been used to treat?

0:31:120:31:15

And, remember, you are looking to the plant itself

0:31:150:31:18

to supply you with a clue

0:31:180:31:21

and this is also poisonous, so I'm very glad you've got gloves on.

0:31:210:31:24

-Oh.

-Erm... Hm.

0:31:240:31:26

-So she had poor eyesight, her teeth had all fallen out from sugar.

-Yep.

0:31:260:31:30

-Is it a tooth...?

-Yes, you're quite right. It is. It's tooth decay.

0:31:300:31:34

-Tooth decay. Really?

-She loved sweet food.

0:31:340:31:36

She was a real picker when it came to

0:31:360:31:38

all the plates of food that would come in

0:31:380:31:41

and she would turn her nose up at most of them,

0:31:410:31:43

except the sweet things.

0:31:430:31:44

And so she had black teeth and then teeth that fell out.

0:31:440:31:47

And, on one occasion, she was in such pain, there was felt the need

0:31:470:31:51

to pull out the tooth and she was so scared

0:31:510:31:53

and she had this elderly bishop, who had to sort of stand in her place

0:31:530:31:57

and show her that it didn't hurt

0:31:570:31:59

when this tooth was pulled out.

0:31:590:32:01

And he was like, "Course it doesn't hurt". And then she had it done

0:32:010:32:04

and it was the only tooth she'd ever have pulled out.

0:32:040:32:06

-Round of applause. That's the right answer.

-Well done.

0:32:060:32:08

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:32:080:32:10

So your follow-up question, for another point on this is,

0:32:130:32:16

in Tudor England, teeth would have been removed by a barber surgeon.

0:32:160:32:20

Who were the barber surgeons and what qualifications did

0:32:200:32:23

they need in order to operate?

0:32:230:32:24

Well, I think the qualification they needed was they needed a big...

0:32:240:32:28

-Mallet.

-..knife. A mallet.

-LAUGHTER

0:32:280:32:30

They had to own the kit.

0:32:300:32:32

Yeah, they were dentist-cum-surgeon-cum-barber.

0:32:320:32:35

Quite literally barber surgeons. So they would do everything

0:32:350:32:38

and they were less qualified than doctors were,

0:32:380:32:41

but more qualified, as such,

0:32:410:32:43

than those apothecaries who would make up medicines.

0:32:430:32:46

-You're quite...

-At least they were quite practical.

-They were.

0:32:460:32:49

They could actually get a limb off.

0:32:490:32:51

They would amputate, pull your teeth out.

0:32:510:32:53

You're quite right. There was no qualification needed at all and,

0:32:530:32:56

to this day, the reason we call surgeons Mr or Miss,

0:32:560:32:59

rather than Doctor, dates back to Tudor times.

0:32:590:33:02

And the red pole, with the white bandage that we still have today?

0:33:020:33:05

-Yeah. Outside the barber's shops.

-Strikes fear into you.

0:33:050:33:07

Let's move on then to your next so-called cure.

0:33:070:33:10

You will know, of course,

0:33:100:33:11

that this is a pomegranate, not poisonous at all.

0:33:110:33:13

So the question that goes with this cure is

0:33:130:33:16

which disease, contracted by Elizabeth in 1562,

0:33:160:33:19

would pomegranate juice have been used to treat?

0:33:190:33:22

Interesting, isn't it? Cos the pomegranate, traditionally,

0:33:220:33:24

had been a symbol of fertility, because the seeds talk about...

0:33:240:33:29

you know, children.

0:33:290:33:30

-You see this with Catherine of Aragon.

-It was her personal symbol,

0:33:300:33:33

-wasn't it? Catherine of Aragon's?

-Yeah, it was. But...

0:33:330:33:36

-She gets a bout of smallpox early on, doesn't she?

-It was 1562,

0:33:360:33:38

-October, she was ill with smallpox.

-Hm.

-So, if it's smallpox...?

0:33:380:33:42

-But Kirsty's not giving it away.

-She was confined at Hampton Court.

0:33:420:33:46

No, I absolutely will say that smallpox is right.

0:33:460:33:48

You've got your point,

0:33:480:33:50

but can you put it in some sort of historical context?

0:33:500:33:52

It was a really scary moment. This is just four years into her reign

0:33:520:33:55

and, of course, she's not married and she doesn't have an heir.

0:33:550:33:58

And, for a time, it really does look as though she's going to die.

0:33:580:34:02

It's actually a long-standing problem,

0:34:020:34:04

because if you look back to her father, Henry VIII,

0:34:040:34:06

he spent his youth at Eltham Palace on the outskirts of London

0:34:060:34:09

when sweating sickness and other ailments came in as plagues

0:34:090:34:13

into the city.

0:34:130:34:14

So her sister, Mary, had a nursery palace

0:34:140:34:17

two days' ride away near Chelmsford.

0:34:170:34:19

So they kept the children at a safe distance from these urban plagues.

0:34:190:34:23

And, tell me, in terms of Elizabeth herself,

0:34:230:34:25

how could these visible smallpox scars

0:34:250:34:28

-have damaged her image as the Virgin Queen?

-Ah.

0:34:280:34:32

And this is for a point, this question.

0:34:320:34:34

-They looked a lot like syphilis sores.

-That's it.

0:34:340:34:37

-They looked like the Great Pox scars. They were similar.

-Yeah.

0:34:370:34:40

And also this whole idea of this perfect complexion.

0:34:400:34:42

The idea that the queen has to sort of represent purity

0:34:420:34:46

and this sort of...as a sign of strength.

0:34:460:34:49

And she covered herself in make-up.

0:34:490:34:51

Yes, and she kept a very tight rein on her image.

0:34:510:34:53

There is one particularly interesting portrait

0:34:530:34:56

that seems to have slipped through the net.

0:34:560:34:59

I believe we can see the image here.

0:34:590:35:01

Well, the interesting thing about Elizabeth is, because, of course,

0:35:010:35:04

she is unmarried, remains unmarried, and doesn't have an heir,

0:35:040:35:07

the future is really, really precarious and uncertain.

0:35:070:35:10

No one knows who's going to succeed her.

0:35:100:35:12

And you get to a point during her reign where, really,

0:35:120:35:15

they had to maintain the fiction that she's young,

0:35:150:35:18

to try and reassure everyone that she'll never get old,

0:35:180:35:20

because there's no one waiting in the wings.

0:35:200:35:23

And so she controls her image and, in fact,

0:35:230:35:25

there's a sort of carefully controlled face pattern

0:35:250:35:28

that's inserted into portraits towards the end of her reign,

0:35:280:35:32

so that, basically, her face doesn't show that it's ageing.

0:35:320:35:35

And this one is, apparently, a portrait

0:35:350:35:38

that slipped through the net and does show a rather ageing Elizabeth.

0:35:380:35:41

Dan's team, fascinating stuff. Thank you very much.

0:35:410:35:43

APPLAUSE

0:35:430:35:46

So, after that round,

0:35:490:35:50

Lucy's team have 18 points

0:35:500:35:52

and Dan's team have got 19 points.

0:35:520:35:55

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:35:550:35:56

Moving on now to our next round,

0:36:000:36:02

which takes on the subject of entertainment.

0:36:020:36:05

In the Tudor period, music had an important role in public life.

0:36:050:36:08

News was spread chiefly via songs, so nothing like today.

0:36:080:36:12

The peddlers of this news were often unsavoury characters,

0:36:120:36:15

criminals and downright liars.

0:36:150:36:17

Again, nothing like today. LAUGHTER

0:36:170:36:19

You're about to hear two Tudor ballads,

0:36:190:36:21

performed live here in the studio.

0:36:210:36:23

Listen carefully, teams, to the lyrics,

0:36:230:36:26

as I am going to be quizzing you on them later.

0:36:260:36:28

Now please do welcome to the stage,

0:36:280:36:31

to perform the first ballad,

0:36:310:36:33

Zico Shaker and Jill Kemp.

0:36:330:36:34

APPLAUSE

0:36:340:36:37

MUSIC: The Death of Queen Jane

0:36:410:36:44

# Queen Jane was in labour

0:36:440:36:47

# Full six weeks and more

0:36:470:36:49

# And the women were weary

0:36:490:36:52

# And fain would give o'er

0:36:520:36:55

# O' women, O' women

0:36:550:36:57

# As women ye be

0:36:570:37:00

# Rip open my two sides

0:37:000:37:03

# And save my baby

0:37:030:37:06

# King Henry came to her

0:37:060:37:08

# And sate at her bed

0:37:080:37:11

# What ails my fair lady

0:37:110:37:14

# Her eyes look so red?

0:37:140:37:16

# She wept and she wail'd

0:37:160:37:19

# Till she fell in a swoond,

0:37:190:37:22

# They open'd her two sides

0:37:220:37:24

# And the baby was found

0:37:240:37:27

# The baby was christened

0:37:270:37:30

# With joy and much mirth

0:37:300:37:32

# Whilst poor Queen Jane's body

0:37:320:37:35

# Lay cold under earth. #

0:37:350:37:40

APPLAUSE

0:37:400:37:42

That was exquisite. Zico and Jill, thank you very much indeed.

0:37:480:37:51

Teams, I do hope that you were listening closely.

0:37:510:37:54

This is a buzzer round.

0:37:540:37:56

So tell me what the subject was...

0:37:560:37:59

BUZZER ..of that ballad. Jonathan?

0:37:590:38:01

It's Jane Seymour's birth of the future Edward VI.

0:38:010:38:04

Yes. That is absolutely correct.

0:38:040:38:06

And performed during that birth was...?

0:38:060:38:09

A Caesarean section.

0:38:090:38:10

Well, no, the ballad

0:38:100:38:13

is actually anti-Henrician propaganda,

0:38:130:38:16

because there wasn't a Caesarean section performed.

0:38:160:38:18

We're coming to that. LAUGHTER

0:38:180:38:22

No, but you're quite right and we will come onto that.

0:38:220:38:24

-OK.

-But the answer to the question about what the ballad was

0:38:240:38:27

-is absolutely correct.

-OK.

0:38:270:38:28

And you, Dan's team and Jonathan, will get the point.

0:38:280:38:30

Thank you very much. We'll take that point.

0:38:300:38:32

It was thought to be Catholic propaganda, because...?

0:38:320:38:36

Because Henry had sacrificed the wife for the heir.

0:38:360:38:40

Because she died so quickly after the birth.

0:38:400:38:42

And the rumour mill suggested that,

0:38:420:38:44

when Henry was asked if he should save Jane or the baby,

0:38:440:38:47

the rumourmonger said he said,

0:38:470:38:48

"The child, by all means, for other wives could easily be found."

0:38:480:38:53

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:38:530:38:54

Don't marry Henry, he will kill you.

0:38:540:38:56

Exactly.

0:38:560:38:58

For all that extra information, I'm going to give you a bonus point.

0:38:580:39:01

-Yes!

-Because you did fill in some of the blanks.

0:39:010:39:03

-LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

-Whoo!

0:39:030:39:05

Let's then go to a follow-up question

0:39:050:39:07

and I'm going to give this to Dan's team,

0:39:070:39:10

because you did get the right answer.

0:39:100:39:12

-We did.

-So you have a go at the follow-up question.

0:39:120:39:15

Jane Seymour wasn't the only wife of Henry VIII's to die

0:39:150:39:18

following complications in childbirth.

0:39:180:39:20

Can you tell me who the other was?

0:39:200:39:22

She didn't die.

0:39:220:39:24

I'm not going to give you much time.

0:39:240:39:26

Hang on. Wait a second.

0:39:260:39:27

I don't have to wait a second, you know?

0:39:270:39:29

Oh, that's true. You don't.

0:39:290:39:30

-Died...?

-Oh, it must be Catherine Parr.

0:39:300:39:32

-Oh!

-You just...you squeaked it in there.

-Of course.

0:39:320:39:34

-After Henry's death.

-That's a good trick question there.

0:39:340:39:37

It wasn't during Henry's reign. That's what we were thinking.

0:39:370:39:39

She went on and married someone else after Henry.

0:39:390:39:41

-She married her...

-Thomas Seymour.

-Exactly.

0:39:410:39:43

She married Thomas Seymour, who we had earlier.

0:39:430:39:45

You have got the point. APPLAUSE

0:39:450:39:48

Now, please welcome back Zico and Jill

0:39:500:39:52

to perform our second ballad.

0:39:520:39:54

APPLAUSE

0:39:540:39:55

SHE PLAYS

0:40:000:40:03

# Who keeps Saint Angell gates?

0:40:060:40:08

# Where lieth our Holy Father say?

0:40:080:40:10

# I muse that no man waits

0:40:100:40:12

# Nor comes to meet me on the way

0:40:120:40:15

# Sir Pope, I say, if you be near

0:40:150:40:18

# Bow down to me your listening ear

0:40:180:40:20

# Come forth, bestir you then apace

0:40:200:40:22

# For I have news to tell Your Grace

0:40:220:40:25

# Stay not, come on

0:40:250:40:27

# That I from here were shortly gone

0:40:270:40:29

# Hark well, hear me

0:40:290:40:31

# What tidings I have brought to thee

0:40:310:40:34

# The Bull so lately sent

0:40:340:40:37

# To England by your holy grace

0:40:370:40:39

# John Felton may repent

0:40:390:40:41

# For setting of the same in place

0:40:410:40:44

# For he upon a goodly zeal

0:40:440:40:46

# He bare unto your common weal

0:40:460:40:48

# Has ventured life to pleasure you

0:40:480:40:51

# And now is hanged, I tell you true

0:40:510:40:53

# Wherefore, sir Pope

0:40:530:40:55

# In England have you lost your hope

0:40:550:40:57

# Curse on, spare not

0:40:570:40:59

# Your knights are like to turn to pot. #

0:40:590:41:02

APPLAUSE

0:41:020:41:04

Stepping back in time, listening to that.

0:41:090:41:11

Zico and Jill, thank you very much indeed.

0:41:110:41:13

So teams, again, fingers on buzzers.

0:41:130:41:15

What event... BUZZER

0:41:150:41:17

So, um, Dan.

0:41:170:41:19

-I think I've made a mistake.

-LAUGHTER

0:41:190:41:22

-I think your competitive spirit is getting the better of you...

-OK.

0:41:220:41:26

..and you did come in too early.

0:41:260:41:27

It would only be fair for me to finish the question, Dan,

0:41:270:41:29

since you didn't let me. What event of 1570 does that ballad refer to?

0:41:290:41:35

-Is that...?

-Oh, that's when all the subjects of Elizabeth

0:41:350:41:39

-were told they no longer had to be obedient to her.

-Excommunication.

0:41:390:41:44

So finally, Elizabeth's subjects could do as they wish,

0:41:440:41:46

and that really spawned a real upsurge in plots against her.

0:41:460:41:51

That particular ballad, though. I'm looking for a particular name,

0:41:510:41:54

-and neither team is able to give it to me.

-The Papal Bull of Excommunication of 1570.

0:41:540:41:58

Yes, relating to the death of...?

0:41:580:41:59

-We heard his name in the song!

-John Fenton.

0:41:590:42:02

-Well, nearly. John Felton.

-Felton.

0:42:020:42:04

Well done, you got there. So a clap for that, and the points.

0:42:040:42:07

APPLAUSE

0:42:070:42:09

My follow-up question, then, and I almost think it's only fair

0:42:110:42:15

to make this a buzzer question,

0:42:150:42:17

because you both sort of got it right but got just enough of it wrong.

0:42:170:42:20

So let me leave this open to both of you.

0:42:200:42:23

Pope Sixtus V renewed the Bull or the Document of Excommunication

0:42:230:42:27

against Elizabeth in 1588.

0:42:270:42:30

What incident that occurred

0:42:300:42:32

in 1587...? Anna. BUZZER

0:42:320:42:34

-Mary, Queen of Scots' execution.

-Absolutely right, yes,

0:42:340:42:37

and a point for that. You get it.

0:42:370:42:39

APPLAUSE

0:42:390:42:41

So after that round, Lucy's team have 19 points,

0:42:420:42:45

Dan's team have 23 points.

0:42:450:42:47

APPLAUSE

0:42:470:42:50

Now we're going to go on to our penultimate round

0:42:540:42:56

and this is all about food.

0:42:560:42:59

So from the gluttony of Henry VIII

0:43:070:43:10

to the extravagant banquets of Elizabeth I,

0:43:100:43:13

food played a very important role in Tudor life and in politics.

0:43:130:43:17

So teams, it is time now to test your taste buds

0:43:170:43:21

as well as your knowledge.

0:43:210:43:23

The Tudor dishes that you're about to sample

0:43:230:43:25

have been created by a Hampton Court food historian -

0:43:250:43:29

please welcome Mark Hawtree.

0:43:290:43:32

APPLAUSE

0:43:320:43:34

Hello.

0:43:340:43:35

So, Mark, thank you and welcome.

0:43:390:43:41

We will come to all of your expert knowledge in just a moment.

0:43:410:43:44

First of all, we're going to go to Lucy's team,

0:43:440:43:47

and, Mark, I would ask you initially

0:43:470:43:49

to reveal the dish that Lucy's team

0:43:490:43:52

are going to try to tell us a little bit about.

0:43:520:43:55

There they are. Now, take a taste.

0:43:550:43:58

OK.

0:43:580:44:00

Shall we go for the nipple?

0:44:000:44:01

Do they just look like giant boobs to you?

0:44:010:44:03

-Or small boobs, actually.

-A plate of mammaries.

0:44:030:44:07

Henry VII did like...

0:44:080:44:09

Too much information, Greg!

0:44:090:44:11

-What do you make of the taste?

-Um...

0:44:110:44:14

It's not very nice.

0:44:140:44:17

-GREG:

-Oh, I like it!

0:44:170:44:18

Is it lavender, or violet? It tastes like Turkish Delight.

0:44:180:44:21

I think it's rose.

0:44:210:44:22

Mark, I'm going to ask for your description of what it is

0:44:220:44:26

that is being eaten here. And actually our historians

0:44:260:44:28

-sort of touched on it at the beginning.

-Eating some boobs.

0:44:280:44:31

The comedy boob, yeah. Very robust sense of humour, the Tudors.

0:44:310:44:34

Er, it's called Spanish Pap,

0:44:340:44:35

-which then links in with the boob joke again.

-Right.

0:44:350:44:39

It's cream, sweetened with sugar,

0:44:390:44:42

flavoured with rose-water, and thickened with rice flour.

0:44:420:44:45

Tell me a little bit more about this, then, Mark.

0:44:450:44:47

Why...you say Spanish Paps, a crude name, why were they given that name?

0:44:470:44:52

The Pap because of the breast, also because of the texture.

0:44:520:44:55

For baby food...

0:44:550:44:57

The name "pap" for baby food goes back hundreds of years.

0:44:570:45:00

They wanted to have a go at the Spanish, really, did they?

0:45:000:45:03

They're possibly having a go at the Spanish.

0:45:030:45:05

One theory is that it looks like a papal hat.

0:45:050:45:08

Well, it's having a go at the Pap-acy, isn't it? The Papacy.

0:45:080:45:11

Yeah, but I personally think it's just comedy boob.

0:45:110:45:13

So Lucy's team, out of all this, apart from trying the dish,

0:45:130:45:16

I'm going to give you a question.

0:45:160:45:18

Your question is, what distinction was made

0:45:180:45:22

between Mary I and Philip II of Spain

0:45:220:45:24

in their place settings during their marriage feast?

0:45:240:45:28

When a woman marries a man, he's her master,

0:45:280:45:30

so they were afraid that Britain,

0:45:300:45:32

in a union, they're going to be controlled by Spain,

0:45:320:45:34

so they're signifying at the wedding banquet...

0:45:340:45:36

So presumably they're not next to each other,

0:45:360:45:39

or she's much higher than him?

0:45:390:45:40

She's seated much higher and he's much lower?

0:45:400:45:42

You're right in terms of the historical context,

0:45:420:45:45

-but the actual...

-He's under the table...

0:45:450:45:47

He's not under the table. Do any others in your team have an idea?

0:45:470:45:50

Lucy, Greg?

0:45:500:45:51

-Anna is straining at the leash here.

-Anna is straining at the leash,

0:45:540:45:57

so I'm going to open it to the other side.

0:45:570:46:00

I think gold and silver plates.

0:46:000:46:01

-You're spot on.

-Ooh!

0:46:010:46:02

Explain to us who had the gold and who had the silver.

0:46:020:46:05

So it was a problem of precedence and who was in the superior position

0:46:050:46:08

and, yes, Mary had the gold plate and Philip had the silver plate.

0:46:080:46:13

That's it. Absolutely right.

0:46:130:46:15

APPLAUSE

0:46:150:46:17

Mark, I will ask you now to come round and unveil the dish

0:46:170:46:21

-that Dan's team is about to take a look at...

-Need longer arms for this.

0:46:210:46:24

-..and indeed sample.

-You get the short straw.

0:46:240:46:28

Now, dig in.

0:46:290:46:31

Here we go, Kirsty, let me...

0:46:310:46:33

-Thank you so much.

-Don't want you missing out.

0:46:330:46:35

Really kind of you. I have to ask the questions, though,

0:46:350:46:37

-so...

-I think you would have been better with the paps.

0:46:370:46:40

-I'm intrigued.

-What are you tasting?

0:46:400:46:42

-Fish. Haddock.

-Fish.

0:46:420:46:44

It's kind of like cold kedgeree.

0:46:440:46:47

Or like egg fried rice served up a week later.

0:46:470:46:50

You like it! Jonathan's going for it.

0:46:500:46:52

-Mark, how long did it take you to make this?

-Oh, yeah, no offence!

0:46:520:46:55

It's fine!

0:46:550:46:57

No, I'm not going to sulk at all.

0:46:570:46:59

I do have questions to ask you, so stay here.

0:46:590:47:01

What is that our team's tasting?

0:47:010:47:03

You're eating a blancmange of fish.

0:47:030:47:05

Fishy blancmange.

0:47:050:47:07

It's all right!

0:47:070:47:08

By my standards, anyway.

0:47:080:47:10

One of those things - when we say "blancmange"

0:47:100:47:13

you're instantly taken back to the pink milk jelly of schooldays.

0:47:130:47:16

But blancmange is just white food - "blanc manger".

0:47:160:47:19

-Of course.

-Why was white food particularly attractive?

0:47:190:47:23

It's considered to be easier to digest.

0:47:230:47:26

And what have you put into it, in terms of flavourings,

0:47:260:47:28

-aside from the fish?

-It's rice boiled until it bursts,

0:47:280:47:31

and then mixed with almond milk,

0:47:310:47:35

er, mashed fish, and flavoured with

0:47:350:47:37

a little bit of sugar and some ginger.

0:47:370:47:39

I can taste the ginger, yeah.

0:47:390:47:41

-And do you like it, or...?

-It needs a microwave, but...

0:47:410:47:45

LAUGHTER

0:47:450:47:47

Keeping the dish in mind, then,

0:47:470:47:49

what food-related law - this is your question, for one point -

0:47:490:47:52

what food-related law in 1563

0:47:520:47:54

directly benefitted the Navy Royal?

0:47:540:47:57

-Oh, well...you had to serve fish on a...

-Well, not just on a Friday,

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there were certain days you had to eat fish.

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It was Friday plus another day, wasn't it?

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Cos then more fishermen, more trained seamen for the fleet,

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that could be called up, mobilised in times of war.

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You're absolutely right, and it was introduced on Wednesdays

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as well as Fridays and Saturdays.

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And in order to sort of...not circumvent it, but honour the law,

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what other things were included under the guise of "fish"

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that they were allowed to eat?

0:48:230:48:25

Well, you know in the Middle Ages

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they thought that barnacle geese were a type of fish

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because they grew from barnacles...

0:48:290:48:31

-Yes. And this was included, you're right, barnacle goose.

-Yeah.

0:48:310:48:34

-And also puffins.

-Beaver.

-And beavers, yes, you're quite right.

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And whale, also, was included.

0:48:380:48:41

Now, Mark has made a special drink. The cups are almost full.

0:48:410:48:44

Jonathan, your cup is still to be filled.

0:48:440:48:46

And you have prepared something called what for us?

0:48:460:48:50

This is a white hippocras.

0:48:500:48:52

White hippocras. And what's that made up from?

0:48:520:48:54

-This one is...

-Smells wonderful!

0:48:540:48:56

..a Rhenish wine, with long pepper, grains of paradise,

0:48:560:49:01

er, flour of canel, ginger, sugar, and cinnamon.

0:49:010:49:07

It's very delicious.

0:49:070:49:08

You're supposed to be impartial! You weren't eating the food, but...

0:49:080:49:11

I can always drink a drink - I'm a Scotswoman, after all!

0:49:110:49:14

LAUGHTER

0:49:140:49:16

I'm going to ask you, Mark,

0:49:160:49:18

this very beautiful thing, which I almost don't...

0:49:180:49:21

I mean, it's so delicate and gorgeous I almost don't want to touch it.

0:49:210:49:24

It looks like we should have some cherries on it,

0:49:240:49:27

but in fact this would have been used as a drinking vessel?

0:49:270:49:30

It's a tatser.

0:49:300:49:31

Can you fill it up? And I'm going to ask Dan, because I don't want you

0:49:310:49:34

to mess up your beautiful shirt, but I don't mind if Dan messes up his.

0:49:340:49:37

This is where I throw it over everybody, isn't it?

0:49:370:49:39

So this would have been used to drink from. And Dan, do be careful,

0:49:390:49:42

but I want you to have a go at drinking from this.

0:49:420:49:45

-This tatser, as you said it was called.

-OK.

0:49:450:49:47

Now, it does look as if it was made from very fine and ancient porcelain.

0:49:470:49:52

-Yeah.

-Mark, you tell me what it's made of,

0:49:520:49:55

-tell everybody. It's extraordinary.

-That one's actually made from sugar.

0:49:550:49:58

-What?!

-Careful you don't tip it!

0:49:580:50:00

But yeah, that's actually made from sugar.

0:50:000:50:03

Are you going to...? Can we break some off?

0:50:030:50:05

Oh, my God!

0:50:050:50:06

That's amazing!

0:50:060:50:07

-Is it...?

-Yeah!

0:50:070:50:09

Christmas in the Snow household will never be the same.

0:50:090:50:11

Drink and eat at the same time!

0:50:110:50:13

It's like an archaeological object now, isn't it?

0:50:130:50:15

I imagine made with moulds, but terrifically difficult to make.

0:50:150:50:18

-Yes.

-Oh, thanks! He's just proved how hard it is to drink out of.

0:50:180:50:21

Sorry!

0:50:210:50:23

-Did he spill it?

-All over me.

0:50:230:50:26

LAUGHTER

0:50:260:50:27

What's this one made out of?

0:50:270:50:29

I have to say to you, it has been

0:50:310:50:32

fascinating, delightful and intriguing. Thank you very much

0:50:320:50:35

for bringing all this historical food and drink along.

0:50:350:50:38

APPLAUSE

0:50:380:50:40

Now, as our final part of our Tudor feast,

0:50:440:50:47

I want to introduce you to a very special guest.

0:50:470:50:52

And here he is. This is Whiskey.

0:50:520:50:55

Now, Whiskey, for a bonus question, can you tell me

0:50:550:50:58

what this little animal would have been used for in a Tudor kitchen?

0:50:580:51:03

-Can I answer?

-You can answer.

0:51:030:51:05

We don't have buzzers, but you can certainly answer.

0:51:050:51:07

IMITATES BUZZER

0:51:070:51:08

Tell me about Whiskey.

0:51:080:51:09

Whiskey is supposed to be the last surviving spit dog,

0:51:090:51:14

which is a kind of dog that was bred

0:51:140:51:17

to have a long body and short little legs,

0:51:170:51:19

so it would run about in a little wheel

0:51:190:51:21

and it would stop you having to turn the spit manually.

0:51:210:51:25

You're absolutely right, turn the spit with the meat on it.

0:51:250:51:27

He's the Turnspit Dog. Well done.

0:51:270:51:30

APPLAUSE

0:51:300:51:32

There is nothing about Whiskey, the little Turnspit Dog,

0:51:340:51:38

that is not interesting.

0:51:380:51:39

You already have secured your point, but can you, or can anybody,

0:51:390:51:43

tell me what might have been done -

0:51:430:51:45

of really unspeakable cruelty, I have to say -

0:51:450:51:48

to make little Whiskey run faster on his wheel?

0:51:480:51:51

Did it involve the enema pipe?

0:51:510:51:53

It didn't involve the enema pipe!

0:51:530:51:55

Was there fire put under the wheel, to make him run?

0:51:550:51:58

Yeah, they would throw coals onto the wheel to make him run faster,

0:51:580:52:01

because his little paws were hot.

0:52:010:52:03

Turnspit dogs apparently were used as feet-warmers in church on a Sunday.

0:52:030:52:07

What a life they had!

0:52:090:52:10

Well, thank you all for being so very game.

0:52:100:52:13

After that round we can reveal that Lucy's team have 20 points

0:52:130:52:16

and Dan's team have 25 points.

0:52:160:52:18

APPLAUSE

0:52:180:52:20

Now it's time to play our final round.

0:52:250:52:28

So finally, having spent a while looking at how the Tudors lived,

0:52:360:52:40

it seems entirely appropriate that our last round

0:52:400:52:43

is about how they died.

0:52:430:52:45

This is a quickfire round, with questions worth a point.

0:52:450:52:48

Equally, teams, I should tell you that an incorrect answer

0:52:480:52:51

will result in you being deducted a point.

0:52:510:52:54

Greg looks really happy at that.

0:52:540:52:56

So fingers on buzzers, teams,

0:52:560:52:58

and let's play The Last Word.

0:52:580:53:01

Which monarch said, "When I am dead and opened,

0:53:010:53:04

"you shall find..." BUZZER

0:53:040:53:06

Mary I.

0:53:060:53:07

That's right. "You shall find Calais lying on my heart."

0:53:070:53:10

One point to you. Which Elizabethan playwright was stabbed to death

0:53:100:53:13

in a pub in Deptford... BELL

0:53:130:53:16

That was Christopher Marlowe.

0:53:160:53:17

It was Christopher Marlowe, it was in a row over a bill.

0:53:170:53:20

Who said that he believed the mercy of Christ

0:53:200:53:23

would "pardon me all my sins,

0:53:230:53:24

"yea, though they were greater than can be," on his deathbed?

0:53:240:53:28

I'll move on - that was Henry VIII.

0:53:290:53:31

According to popular tradition,

0:53:310:53:33

which Elizabethan statesman died from pneumonia

0:53:330:53:35

during an experiment... BELL

0:53:350:53:38

-Francis Bacon.

-It was Francis Bacon. What was the experiment?

0:53:380:53:41

He was stuffing a chicken with snow.

0:53:410:53:43

He WAS stuffing a chicken with snow!

0:53:430:53:44

Whose death was described as "mildly, like a lamb,

0:53:440:53:48

"easily, like a..." BUZZER

0:53:480:53:50

-Elizabeth I.

-That's right. It was mild like a lamb,

0:53:500:53:53

"easily, like a ripe apple from the tree."

0:53:530:53:56

Whose body and severed head was placed in an old arrow chest

0:53:560:53:59

immediately after her execution in 1536?

0:53:590:54:02

BELL

0:54:020:54:03

-That would be Anne Boleyn.

-It was Anne Boleyn.

0:54:030:54:06

"Most gracious prince, I cry for mercy, mercy, mercy."

0:54:060:54:09

-It's not working! It is.

-BELL

0:54:090:54:12

Thomas Cromwell.

0:54:120:54:13

It was Thomas Cromwell.

0:54:130:54:14

Written to Henry VIII, was the end of that question.

0:54:140:54:18

Whose wife, named Elizabeth, is said to have carried his severed head

0:54:180:54:21

in a bag... BELL

0:54:210:54:23

-Raleigh.

-It was Walter Raleigh.

0:54:230:54:26

Carried his severed head in a bag for 29 years.

0:54:260:54:28

Who was the chief mourner

0:54:280:54:30

at the funeral of Henry's widow Catherine Parr?

0:54:300:54:32

BELL

0:54:320:54:34

-Was it Elizabeth?

-No, it wasn't.

0:54:340:54:36

-It was Lady Jane Grey, you lose a point.

-Sorry.

0:54:360:54:38

For which monarch were two funeral services held,

0:54:380:54:40

one Protestant, the other Catholic?

0:54:400:54:42

BUZZER What's your answer?

0:54:420:54:45

-Edward VI.

-It was Edward VI. Next question. How was Richard Roose,

0:54:450:54:48

the cook of the Bishop of Rochester, executed?

0:54:480:54:50

BELL

0:54:500:54:52

Boiled alive.

0:54:520:54:53

He was boiled alive for two hours, apparently.

0:54:530:54:55

Which Tudor statesman...

0:54:550:54:58

END OF ROUND KLAXON

0:54:580:54:59

Well, that sound signals the end of the round

0:54:590:55:02

and indeed, the end of the quiz.

0:55:020:55:05

I can tell you that Lucy's team have 25 points

0:55:050:55:08

and Dan's team have 28 points!

0:55:080:55:11

APPLAUSE

0:55:110:55:13

So Dan's team get the silver Tudor groats,

0:55:210:55:23

and I'm afraid that Lucy's team, it's off to the Tower for you,

0:55:230:55:27

where else?

0:55:270:55:28

The only thing left to do, then,

0:55:280:55:30

is to pay one last visit to our Tudor timeline.

0:55:300:55:33

Here it is. Full of the people and events that have made this

0:55:330:55:38

one of the most remarkable periods in British history.

0:55:380:55:41

Thank you to our wonderful historians, Lucy, Greg and Kate,

0:55:530:55:57

and Dan, Jonathan and Anna.

0:55:570:56:00

APPLAUSE

0:56:000:56:01

I'd like to thank all of you for watching,

0:56:010:56:04

and in the words of that great Elizabethan, William Shakespeare,

0:56:040:56:09

put out the light...

0:56:090:56:12

and then put out the light. Goodnight.

0:56:120:56:16

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