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In the Victorian era, Britain changed as never before.

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It was the time of great inventors, great engineers,

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but above all, great businessmen, entrepreneurs,

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and one of the best examples was the pioneer photographer Francis Frith.

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It was in the 1860s that Francis Frith embarked upon a monumental mission

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using the newly invented photographic camera.

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He wanted to document every city, every town

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and every village in the land.

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I'm tracing the footsteps of this remarkable man

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and his team of photographers.

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Using their pictures as my guide,

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I'll be travelling the length and breadth of the country,

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finding out what has altered and what has stayed the same.

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Along the way, I will be taking my own photos

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to try and capture the mood of the place as it is now.

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That's great.

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Welcome to Britain's First Photo Album.

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The subject matter of Frith's photos were the British Isles,

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the towns, the resorts, the industrial landscape and,

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of course, the people.

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Frith realised there was a big demand for pictures of places

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that people were visiting,

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perhaps for the first time.

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These early tourists wanted mementos

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and he was happy to oblige.

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Inspired by Frith, I'm travelling around the country.

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Today, I'm continuing along the south coast, from Lyme Regis

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heading up through the West Country to Exeter and Barnstaple.

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I'll be trying my hand at a spot of heavy horse farming.

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I am a natural.

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Visiting the mysterious dungeons of Exeter's Guildhall.

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What a grim place.

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And, of course, in true Frith style,

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making my own record of life in the UK.

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I think a smile, a smile of satisfaction.

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We begin in the beautiful county of Dorset.

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Frith and his team extensively photographed the towns and villages,

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producing a vivid snapshot of Victorian life.

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Our first photo was taken in Lyme Regis,

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an ancient seaport whose origins can be traced back hundreds of years.

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Ah, Lyme Regis, one of the prettiest towns in Britain.

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It's the capital of what's called the Jurassic Coast

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and there's The Cobb, that's the breakwater,

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with its heavy stones, which enabled the town to become a great port.

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Now, it attracts visitors from all over the world.

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What makes this area so special

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are the millions of fossils preserved in the layers of limestone

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that make up this extraordinary coastline.

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Frith took lots of pictures of Lyme Regis,

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but they were particularly concerned about capturing

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the most exciting thing about Lyme Regis, for the Victorians,

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which was the fact that this is where the fossils came from.

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So these amateur palaeontologists

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came from all over the country,

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desperate have a look at these fossils,

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and they hoped to discover a new dinosaur.

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So the picture we've chosen is of the Fossil Depot

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and here we see the proprietor,

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we see lots of bric-a-brac in the windows,

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we don't know what that is.

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This Fossil Depot wasn't just any old depot, oh, no,

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it had a royal patron,

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HRH Prince Alfred,

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the son of Queen Victoria.

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Well, my first job is to find out exactly where the picture was taken

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and that's not easy.

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Oh, this looks promising.

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-Hello.

-Hello, there.

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-I wonder if you could help me?

-Maybe.

-Where is that?

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That, unfortunately, is no longer there.

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That was out of the door and turn right,

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just on the end where the Rock Point pub used to be.

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Blast, wrong fossil shop! There are so many round here.

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But it seems the one in our photo disappeared in 1913,

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as part of a road-widening scheme.

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This is where the old fossil depot was,

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but it was demolished, and what we've now got is a pub.

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I can't find the building, but what I can do is to do what lots of people do

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who come to Lyme Regis, I can go and look for a fossil.

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Fossil hunting has been popular in Lyme Regis

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since the early 19th century.

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Chris Andrew is an expert on finding fossils

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and he shows others how to do it.

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Right, tell me what I'm looking for.

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Basically, all the sort of grey coloured rocks you can see,

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they are all parts of the Blue Lias,

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the same rocks you can see in the cliffs over there.

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The most common fossil we see is ammonites,

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you can find loose belemnites in amongst the rocks.

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You will find all kinds of things as we go along.

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OK, what about this?

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What we've got here,

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we've got a small ammonite.

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I've found a fossil.

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-Oh, yeah.

-What about anywhere else?

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-Oh, look, one over there, yes?

-Yeah.

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People always want to know if you can find fossils at Lyme.

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You can always find fossils, there's always things to be found here.

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This is the ammonite graveyard, or the ammonite pavement,

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a sort of famous tourist attraction around Lyme, and you can see

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the whole surface of the limestone absolutely covered in ammonites.

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-There's a lovely ammonite.

-How old is that?

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-About 200 million years old.

-Right.

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-Geologically not that old, but it's still fairly impressive.

-Right.

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You've brought something to show.

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I've brought a few bits and pieces to show you, yeah.

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If we go back to the ammonites...

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I said to you originally, ammonite people always see the coily shells

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and they always think they're some sort of snail.

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They are not snails, much more interesting than snails,

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they're related squids and octopuses and,

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if you know about it, the modern-day nautilus.

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On the front of the animal - tentacles, for catching its prey,

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and we think ammonites had well-developed eyes.

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Their body was only in about the outer half coil,

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and all the middle part of the shell

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was divided up into little gas-filled chambers.

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The animal controls the amount of gas and water in each chamber

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and he can move up and down in the sea.

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But it means when he dies, sinks to the seafloor,

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all his soft parts rot away,

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mud washes into the outer part of the shell,

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but all these chamber walls stop it going into the middle.

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So the outer part fills with mud and is well preserved,

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as more mud piles up, the centre collapses.

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What we end up with is what we have here,

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a semicircle full of mud and very little in the middle.

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Now, what else have you got?

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That's part of an ichthyosaur jawbone and what you've got here,

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that's the nostril,

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the bones of the skull, the jaw coming along here,

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lower jaw here, teeth all the way along.

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Wait a minute, it's sort of like that.

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Like that, and that's your nostril here,

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the eye would've been much bigger on this side.

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Particularly good specimen, isn't it?

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-A nice specimen, a lovely piece.

-It's heavy.

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Yeah, that's the fool's gold in it.

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The nice thing about it is that it hasn't been cleaned,

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that's how it was picked up on the beach.

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I'm really chuffed to have found those fossils,

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but there's still one mystery from the Frith picture

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that I've not solved.

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Is this strange object proudly displayed

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in front of the Fossil Depot.

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Up at the museum, I'm hoping local historian Ken

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will be able to shed some light.

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This museum has been here for nearly 100 years.

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And is it all about fossils?

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No, we're very strong on fossils,

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but we've got quite a lot of other history in Lyme Regis as well.

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You're going to tell me, I hope, about this particular photograph,

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and what's this thing in front of the shop?

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That's the shoulder bone of a whale.

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If you look down there, we've still got it.

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Hey, presto, there we are, revealed!

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It was found amongst the rocks by one of the Curtis family,

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who were fishermen.

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One of the Curtis family had that shop

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and he displayed the whalebone outside of it.

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When the shop was pulled down in 1913,

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they kept the whalebone in the family.

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It was inherited by a distant relative of mine about 12 to 14 years ago

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and he has actually loaned it to the museum.

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-You must be proud of this.

-Oh, yes.

-Family heirloom.

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So that's the final piece of the jigsaw.

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Frith and his team were anxious to capture

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some of the mystery and magic of Lyme Regis.

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I'm now going back to the beach to do the same in our modern times.

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OK, when I say go, you remove yourself.

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-I will very gently move back, yeah.

-I hope that stays there.

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I hope that stays there as well, or my colleague will kill me.

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OK, an expensive fossil ruined.

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-Yeah.

-OK, take your hand off.

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There we go.

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Here is my picture of the ichthyosaurus fossil,

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perched precariously on top of some stones.

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It is extraordinary to think that 200 million years ago,

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this little dinosaur would've been happily

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swimming around, right here.

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The Frith picture I'm interested in next

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is also taken in Lyme Regis,

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on the banks of the River Lym.

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This is the industrial part of Lyme.

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When this was taken, there were about 13 mills in this area.

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So you can see the interest of this picture is that the River Lym,

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which Lyme Regis gets its name from, is going down here,

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but this is the water that comes down here

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to turn the mill wheel.

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So it is a very interesting old picture of how,

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for hundreds of years, Lyme was a centre for milling.

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Local historian Martin Roundell Greene

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will show me where the picture was taken.

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Well, I think that building there,

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on the left, with three windows,

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is that building there.

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Next building is the same, and then at the end is a thatched building

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which was the Angel Inn.

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That red-tiled building is the Angel,

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well, it was the Angel pub

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until it closed a few months ago.

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And the building on the right, you can see there.

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So, actually, an enormous amount of this is still here,

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although it looks completely different, doesn't it?

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-Yes.

-Now, what went wrong, why did the whole industry collapse?

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It was about the end of the 19th century,

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grain came in from Canada, there were roller mills built at the ports,

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and little town mills were struggling by that time.

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But there is one mill left, the Town Mill,

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which is the only working

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watermill in Lyme.

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It ground to a halt in 1927, but...

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Only in 1927?

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-Yes.

-So not that long ago, there was a mill here.

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The Town Mill dates back to 1340.

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Recently, it was saved and restored by local volunteers.

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It was, and still is, a flour mill.

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Steve White, one of the current millers,

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is going to teach me the ancient art of producing stone-ground flour.

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OK, John, what we're now going to do is take some wheat

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and put it into this wooden hopper, this wooden box here.

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-Right, OK. It's heavy, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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OK, that goes in there.

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The mill is still powered in exactly the same way as it always was,

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by a big waterwheel, turned by the mill stream.

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As you can see, there's lots of water in the wheel, but it isn't turning.

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What we need to do is walk the wheel.

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Put your foot in there for me, please, onto the stone.

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-Put my foot in it. OK.

-Yeah.

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And push your foot forward, time and time again.

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OK, it's going.

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And that will be starting to turn the waterwheel.

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-OK, I think that's enough now.

-Oh, right. Oh, it's starting, isn't it?

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-Yeah.

-OK.

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What's happening now is, the wheat is being knocked into the middle of the stone.

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The stones are milling it finer and finer,

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and eventually, the flour will be coming out around the edge.

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Those two stones in there don't actually touch one another.

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The entire weight of the top stone is supported on a shaft and a bearing

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that goes down to the floor below.

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There's an adjustment, which gives you your quality of flour.

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-How fine the flour is?

-Absolutely.

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If you adjust it so that the quality is too fine

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and the two stones touch together,

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they bind together and you grind to a halt.

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That's where the phrase comes from?

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Yes, it's an old milling term we all use.

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So there's my flour coming down the spout.

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All I've got to do now is to weigh it and bag it.

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Wait a minute, that's right, isn't it? There is...

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One bag of stone-ground, wholemeal, organic, brown, plain,

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traditionally-ground flour.

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-Which I have ground.

-Indeed, you did.

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It's time for my photo.

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I want to concentrate on the man behind the mill.

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Steve White keeps the wheels turning and he's my hero.

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I think a smile, a smile of satisfaction.

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OK. Are you ready? Great.

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Pride in the past, that's what really matters at the new

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and old mill here in Lyme Regis.

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This is the Frith picture of the old industrial part of Lyme Regis,

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which the tourists wouldn't normally have seen,

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and this is my picture

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of what the tourists now do see in Lyme,

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which is, of course, the old mill

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and the miller Steve.

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It's interesting, when he started his career,

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it was as an engineer and he just likes being near old machines.

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I'm travelling across the country to tell the story

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of Britain's First Photo Album, tracing the footsteps of pioneer photographer

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Francis Frith and his team.

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I'm moving on to Exeter,

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the county town of Devon.

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The picture which interests me

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is of Exeter High Street,

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taken in 1896.

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What makes the photo more poignant is that this city was

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badly damaged by German air raids in the Second World War.

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A quarter of Exeter was destroyed by the bombing,

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but some very good buildings still remain in Exeter, and particularly

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the one that I'm interested in, which is the Guildhall

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and that's where I'm going.

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Even 120 years ago, when this photo was taken,

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the Guildhall stood out as a reminder of an earlier age.

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Historian Todd Gray gives me a glimpse of its fascinating history.

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-Hello.

-Very nice to meet you.

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Tell me about this wonderful building.

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Well, it's the oldest serving Guildhall in the country.

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It's an extraordinarily rich building

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and it is one which the city loves.

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So how old is the building that we can see in front of us?

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Well, the front bit is 1590s.

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There's been a little bit of repair, but not much,

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because Exeter didn't have much money in the 19th century.

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So we kept, basically, what we had and this is why it's so important.

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We can see what it's always been like.

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-It is how it's been for hundreds of years.

-Yes.

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-It's always looked like this.

-It looks very grand at the moment.

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A Guildhall was the meeting place of the trade associations known as guilds.

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The Exeter Guildhall has been a town hall, a police station

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and a prison, but perhaps its most interesting role

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was that of a court, where harsh punishments were meted out in the 17th century.

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One of the judges became a byword for cruelty.

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Well, Judge Jeffreys comes down to, basically, stop a great insurrection.

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-So he's the notorious horrible judge?

-He's still a hate figure.

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He's the worst, most frightening judge that's ever worked in Britain.

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Well, supposedly, he had medical issues which made him

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a bit grumpier than normal.

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But he'd be up here, and this would be the court.

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It was the court, the prisoners come in from behind us,

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they're arraigned on the left.

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The judge sits down and then he pronounces

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some sort of awful punishment for crime.

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So he would say, "You will be hanged by the neck until you're dead."

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Grim.

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What would be the most trivial offence that you might be hung for?

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Stealing a sheep would instantly be a death sentence,

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unless they were transported.

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What were the public thinking at the time,

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what were the town leaders thinking?

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You have to remember, there's very loose political control,

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there's hardly any police anywhere.

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So the state is very supportive of a structure which intimidates people into behaving.

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Exeter Guildhall has a comprehensive archive dating back 800 years.

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It contains some fascinating descriptions of cases tried here.

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This particular one, I think, you're going to love.

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"This year, the Mayor was much troubled after the punishment

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"of one Joan Luter,"

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who we go on to read is "a very strumpet and harlot."

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-And what year is this?

-This is 1524.

-Right, now, what happens to her?

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Her followers do not agree that she should go to jail,

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so they attack the Mayor.

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-And why don't they think she should go to jail?

-She's too beautiful.

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Perfectly good reason. And where do they take her?

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Well, at this time, there's one place,

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which was then called The Pit, and we would say it's a dungeon.

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Prisoners such as Joan Luter

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would have had a hard time at the Guildhall.

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The dreadful dungeon, or pit as it was known,

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was used to incarcerate the prisoners.

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I'm only visiting, but you can quickly get the idea.

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-Charming, isn't it?

-What a grim place.

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It hasn't been used for some time.

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It hasn't been used for a few hundred years for this purpose.

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-Hardly anyone goes down here, you can see why.

-Yeah.

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But at the time, we know people were down here for, well,

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40 days, 40 nights.

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These would be cells, would they?

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Well, if you were a violent prisoner, you were manacled down here

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and if you weren't, you were just allowed to, well,

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walk around as much as you can.

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It's just so powerful, isn't it?

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You come here and you think, "I can imagine it."

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I can't believe I would do very well in these conditions.

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And this would be another cell.

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It's the mustiness, the damp that's so grim, isn't it?

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Well, if you can imagine the sewage from the streets,

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just sort of seeping down in and coming up from the earthen floor as well.

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And a lot of the time,

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the prisoners here would be in complete darkness, wouldn't they?

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Yes, there's a tiny little grate above,

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to let in a bit of light, but that's it.

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So let's switch off our torches.

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-You get some feeling for it here, don't you?

-Nightmarish.

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This is nightmarish.

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Oh, horrible, isn't it?

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Just the idea that you'd be stuck here for so long.

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-And you think, night after night after night... Terrifying.

-A nightmare.

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Well, I think I've seen enough.

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I want to escape, I want to go, back to the light.

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Well, that's a relief to be out of there

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and taking my picture of Exeter High Street.

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I'm trying to do something along the lines of the Frith photograph

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and that's the theory of photography, really.

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You draw the eye in along the road,

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you start on this building, which is interesting,

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and where does it go to?

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So there's a bit of moving from left to right.

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Anyway, that's my excuse.

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This is the moment.

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And there it is.

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The old Guildhall, still standing, moody and magnificent.

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Exeter's modern prosperity is based on the coming of the railways.

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When the railway came, built by Isambard Kingdom Brunel,

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an MP stood up in the House of Commons and said,

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"This morning, I was in Exeter."

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And a thrill went through the chamber,

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to think that someone could travel so quickly between Exeter and London.

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So what's my take on Exeter?

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We've got the Frith photograph,

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which we've talked about.

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Very nice photograph.

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I'm trying to better it.

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Mine isn't, I don't think, as good,

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but you can see all the detail,

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and what is astonishing, once again in one of these photographs,

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really how much remains.

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The key point - the Guildhall, the lovely Guildhall is there,

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given lots of prominence by me.

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And as in the Frith picture, we're talking about a real scene.

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These people are walking about, doing their business,

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as they were in the old photograph.

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But it's a rather handsome picture, why?

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Because it's got a very handsome building in the middle of it.

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I'm now leaving the busy streets of Exeter

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and heading just a few miles away

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into the Devon countryside.

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My final Frith photo was taken

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in the farmland just outside Barnstaple.

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This is a very typical Devon road, with the sunken roads

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and great big bushes on both sides.

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My mother used to live near here for about 20 years.

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I was brought up in the countryside, so it always gives me

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just a bit of a thrill to say we're going to the real country

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and we're going to a real farm.

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Jonathan Waterer runs a heritage farm

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that uses heavy horses and traditional machines to work the land,

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just as they did in Victorian times.

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-This is a photograph by the Victorian photographer Frith.

-Yes.

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-Now, this is agricultural life in the late-19th century.

-Sure.

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-Now, a lot of this, you're familiar with, aren't you?

-Yes.

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Until two or three years ago, we used hay tethers just a little bit more modern than that,

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but exactly the same idea,

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exactly the same machine, and we used them for years and years.

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What do you think about the horse though?

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To be honest, he's nothing like as healthy as yours to look at.

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Well, what we've got to remember is years ago,

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when people were really working horses, they were a machine to them.

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Times were hard, they had to make money

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and horses probably didn't get quite the feed,

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or if they did, they certainly worked very hard.

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But you get the impression from this photograph

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that the person taking the photograph wants to say, "Isn't the country wonderful?"

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Now, there's an element of that, isn't there?

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-When we're here, thick townies, like I am now...

-Sure.

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..we sort if think, "Oh, isn't it wonderful?"

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When I'm on my own and it's pouring with rain and I've got to get dung out,

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or whatever, there's quite an element of worry...

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-So it's tough in paradise?

-It is.

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-Look, we've got to get on with muck spreading.

-That's it.

-Right, OK.

-Right.

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That's pretty tough. It's not exactly romantic, is it?

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Well, I suppose it isn't, really.

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-No. It's just got to be done, hasn't it?

-Well, let's get on.

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-I've got a very antique tractor here.

-Right.

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You'll have to excuse the look of it, but it does operate.

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-OK.

-We'll load this up.

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Jonathan isn't averse to using some more modern equipment

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to help him manage his 90-acre farm.

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By the end of the 18th century,

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the agricultural revolution in Britain was well under way.

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It was spurred on by the increase in the population,

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by mechanisation and by crop rotation.

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The sun shone and the farmers made hay.

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Whoa...

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Right, well done.

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In the photograph, the Frith photograph,

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what are they doing there?

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What time of year is it?

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OK, it's probably June and they would be haymaking.

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All right, now, what are we going to do this afternoon?

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OK, well, we're going to spread some manure dung

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onto the field here to help make the grass grow.

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OK. But in Victorian times, as it were,

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some months after that photograph, they would've been doing the same thing?

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-That's right.

-This is exactly the same process...

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-There is nothing different at all.

-..as they would've done?

-Absolutely the same.

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We might have all big tractors and so on today,

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but it's all the same process, just in a modern way.

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And this is an in-between modern way.

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Bob, Sam, go on, get on.

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Good boys, go on.

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By the time of the Frith photograph, Victorian manufacturers

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had designed an enormous range of horse-drawn agricultural machinery,

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from ploughs and cultivators to rakes and manure spreaders.

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All these were used

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until tractors largely replaced horses in the 1930s.

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Now, all that would be understandable for a Victorian farmer,

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but what would he find surprising?

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Well, of course, if he came back today, the countryside is empty, isn't it?

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There are so few people working in the countryside on farms.

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This farm is what, 90 acres,

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there would probably have been three or four people working on this farm in Victorian times.

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-People have gone to the towns.

-They have.

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-The country is sort of empty, in a way.

-It is. It is, sadly.

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-Yeah, sadly.

-'Well, I think it's time for me to take the reins.

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'After all, I was brought up in the country.'

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I think I'm a natural.

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Come on, boys.

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-How do we stop them?

-Do you want to stop yet?

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No, no, you carry on, but when we have to stop them, how are we going to stop them?

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-I'll tell them to whoa, eventually.

-Tell them to whoa. 0K.

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'There is something very special about life on a farm

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'and I can see exactly what drew the Frith photographer

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'to take his picture of a similar scene all those years ago.'

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The happy farmer. That's very good, with some lovely, happy horses.

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My picture is, in a way, like the old Frith picture.

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It's a townie's version of life in the country.

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In the Victorian picture, you can see that most people here

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are in the town, but there are still the people in the countryside,

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and it's bathed in sunlight.

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But we know that life was hard on the farm

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and I'm trying to get across the same idea in my picture.

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Yes, we've got some lovely sunshine here,

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we could have taken it right there in the sunshine, but I didn't.

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I wanted to show there was a darker side to life in the country,

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that it can also be very hard.

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So that's my picture.

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Good old Jonathan, lovely horses,

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but it's not a simple view of paradise.

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For more details on Britain's First Photo Album

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and to find out about exciting events related to the series

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that are happening at museums near you this weekend, visit...

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Next time, my journey continues into Wales and canal country.

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I venture deep underneath the Forest of Dean.

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This is something, isn't it? This is a magnificent cave.

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And I find out how Sunday school began

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and what the kids of Gloucester think about it today.

0:28:300:28:33

-Would you like to go to Sunday school?

-No, not really.

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