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It's housed kings and welcomed visiting monarchs. And author

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thousands of years, protected us from the rest of the word. It is

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known as The Lock and Key of the Kingdom. From the mighty Dover

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Castle. Welcome to National Good evening. Welcome to a blustery

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National Treasures Live. The summer holidays are well underway.

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Millions of people will take the opportunity to visit Britain's most

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fascinating and exciting historical treasures. So, we thought we'd do

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the same. Where better to start for us all than Dover Castle. There's

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been a fortress here for longer than anywhere else in Britain. For

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centuries. Wait until you see what it is like inside. Deep beneath our

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feet is a maze of secret tunnels. They proved crucial during World

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War II. I'll head underground with a man who wrrbgd there nearly 70

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years ago. We'll find out about these guys. Knights in shining

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armour. But just how heroic were they? We really want you to get

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involved tonight too. Do email us: Throughout the series, we'll be

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joined by some of Britain's most famous faces exploring their own

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historical passions. Tonight, we're kicking off with Lenny Henry.

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I'm proud of my car ibian Heritage. I sometimes feel the contributions

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made by West Indians to this country are often overlooked. In

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1940s thousands are car ib Ians left their home. They fought

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alongside Britain in their greatest time of need, the Second World War.

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Stephen Born is an author who spent years researching the contribution

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made by West Indians during the conflict. Why did West Indian men

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and women volunteer to fight in the war? It was part of the old British

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Empire. They saw Britain as their mother country. There are so many

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of us doing so many different things. In the Army, Navy air force.

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There was a shortage of RAF pilots, partly because of the Des imation

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of the RAF during the Battle of Britain, of 1940s. But many, many

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came, over 12,000 joined the RAF during the war. Stkpwh Run of them

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was 1578 King who was proud to fight for his mother country. What

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was it like when you first came to England? I arrived at Greenock in

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Scotland.Ment You didn't come to London. The Germans were bombing

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down here. I land ed in minus 4 for two weeks. I thought I was going to

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die. But, by the grace of God, we lived. What was your job?

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repaired aircraft. Must have been very difficult. The planes were

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being shot down all the time. expected you to work 12 hours night

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and day to get them repaired and going again. I felt we did what we

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should and did. The nation, in general, did not give us enough

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credit. We came, we fought and we died. Within three years of the war

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ending, many of the Caribbeans decided to return to Britain in

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search of work. On June 22nd 19 48, the Windrush docked here. It was to

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become the most important landmark, it heralded the beginning of mass

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migration to these shores. You can just imagine the app henges of

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those people coming off that boat. They had a whole new life awaiting

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them. But the problem was, times had changed. Britain had changed.

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During the war, those people had been welcomed with open arms. But

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all that was different now. Britons wanted the world to go back the way

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it was before the war. But that wasn't to be. In Parliament, there

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was each a debate as to whether this ship coming over was to land

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because they were coming with West Indians coming to stay. They felt

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it was an invasion. Coloured people, you can get them all out of the

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country. And the sooner you can get them out the better I'll be pleased.

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I'll fell you that. -- I'll tell you that. Many of the people who

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came on the scanned winrush had nowhere to stay when they arrived.

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230 were place in the air raid shelters which were part of the

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London Underground. Having travelled all that way on the

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Windrush, being stuck in a boat, arriving, then being told this

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would be your home for the next few weeks while they find you Acomb

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daigs must have been awful. I imagine, if you'd fought for your

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country, you must have been sitting here thinking, surely I deserve

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better than this. Sam, you were a passenger on the Wind rush? I it

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was. Had had to pay 10 pounds 3 shillings. The same as three cows.

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What difficulties did people have when 24 came here. Accommodation.

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When we go there it said no Irish, no blacks, no dogs. How would you

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like it if a house next door to you was filled to bursting point with

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all the coloured person's relations and so forth. They these men and

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women were resilient. They were even prepared to take lower jobs

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than they were qualified for on their way up. That's what they did.

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They had no choice. Those servicemen who arrived here aboard

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the wind rush and the many who followed created a new concept of

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what it means to be British. Windrush Square in Brixton? How

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proud do you feel? Not proud, our people came, we run your buses,

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clean your hospitals, helped rebuild brick. It's not bad today,

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look at those pigeons over there! I've been lucky enough to meet Sam

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King. He's a real hero. I love that chestful of medals. He was once of

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the Mayor of Southwark. Of those West Indians who served many were

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you were highly decorateded. Over 60 won DFCs. Very impressive.

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Here's Rowena Willard-Wright. Why did this medieval castle play such

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an important role in World War II? May 1940 was probably Dover

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Castle's finest hour. Beneath us, built within the white cliffs of

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Dover Castle, Admiral Ramsay commanded his men from tunnels for

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Operation Dynamo. That was the operation which got the British

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Army back from Dunkirk. They needed somewhere to go when they were

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defeated by Hitler's forces. This is them coming off the beaches. It

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was all commanded from Dover Castle? Yes. They only expected

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about 45,000 men to be saved. But, in the end, it was over 338,000

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that came back. You'd have seen it all from there. The big plume of

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smoke, everything? On a fine day. France is visible over there.

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of course, if they hadn't got back it would have put into question

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Britain's ability to stay in the war? In terms of morale, getting

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that many back meant Churchill could make his speech in Parliament

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and really bring the country together for what was to come.

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After Dunkirk, Dover became the frontline of the war. The Germans

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were occupying France just over there. A three kilometre tunnel

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under here became hugely important. They were expanded to accommodate

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further barracks and an underground hospital. One of the men who helped

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in the construction was apprentice electrician Peter Ascott. It was 60

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years since he last put foot in the tunnels. Earlier, he took Sian down

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there to remember what life was like underground.

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You were last here in 1942. Tell me what you think about being back?

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Almost brings a lump into the throat. No reason to, really.

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Because, there's nothing harmful about the place except that I'm

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amazed it is still here in this condition. Your job was a

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electrician. You were doing all the wiring? I was an electrician's

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apprentice. I was only a boy, really. I was 16, I think. We did

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all the metal wiring and tubing. was a shell when you worked in here.

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This was the operating theatre. Do you want to come and have a look.

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We put the lamp in in the middle. This? I don't know if it was that

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one. But we put in one like it. They were taking casualties out of

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the channel and injured servicemen, bringing them in here, treating

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their bullet wounds. Taking shrapnel out of them. That was all

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after I left. I didn't see much of that. Everything that was being

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done here was top-secret. You couldn't even discuss it with the

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people who you met down here? even with the landlady when I

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lodged. And not with people you bumped into this the tunnels.

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Didn't you come across some VIP is? We were working on trunking, the

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stuff which takes the air round tin box. We were working on that,

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putting a motor in. Churchill and Kennedy, who was the American

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ambassador at the time, he came past. There's always been lots of

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notices up "be like dad, keep mum" in other words, don't talk about

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your job because it is top-secret. Churchill said to my mate, what's

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all this for? What's this about? And Sid said, I don't know, I only

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work here. Churchill gave a laugh and said, quite right and walked on.

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He didn't even tell Churchill. When you look around now, it is almost

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70 years since you were last here. What are your feelings? Almost

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nostalgic. Then it almost makes you want to cry, you know. Silly,

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really. You just can't beat eyewitness accounts like that.

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Fantastic. It is hard to believe all that is right down there

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beneath by feet now. That's why I love this place. We've a World War

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II command centre down there. One of the finest 12th century castles

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down there. This is a Roman lighthouse, the tallest surviving

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Roman building. Iron Age ram part. You can understand why this place

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is is a historian's dream. People like my old mate, Michael Douglas

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struggle to see the point. He's The One Show's resident hairdresser.

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He's ace with a pair of scissors but never quite got history. That's

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why I took him on a road trip. might be clever this fella, but

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he's not very pupbgtual. I'm off to pick up Mikeal Douglas. He's a good

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mate of mine. He doesn't really know anything about history. I left

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school at 125. Largely -- I left school at 156789 I didn't know what

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a university was let alone the chance of going to one. I'm taking

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him on a brood trip round the British Isles. I'm getting him

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excited and enthusiastic about British history. He might think I'm

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an idiot. He's Des Septemberively intelligent. The questions he asked

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cut straight to the heart of the matter. I'm going to be late. Come

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on Mr Horsey. Doesn't look like he's going anywhere. Is that

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Michael there? Yes, I think it is. Hey, buddy. Hop in. Are you excited

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about the journey? Very excited. I didn't want to be in a classroom. I

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wanted to be out and about, sucking in the fresh air. Why did you

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become a historian. I could have been a doctor. History's everything

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that ever happened. There's nothing more interesting than looking back

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over the exciting things that happened in our past working out

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how we go to where we are. Let's start with the Normans. They had

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left some really iconic buildings. These Norman castles. You've heard

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of 1066? Yes. Norman the conquerer. It is William the Conquerer who was

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a Norman. He was from Normandy. There's no-one called nor man?

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7,000 Normans came from Normandy and other parts of France and

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conquered England, parts of Wales. Moved up into Scotland. They were

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like foreign oppressers. You have to build castles. This is what you

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build if your neighbours really, really hate you. Why do the walls

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need to be so thick? If I came along with a spear and bow and

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arrow, the wall doesn't need to be two metres thick? You'll never get

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into it? The point of these buildings is they are built to last.

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They will be here long after you're dead. Hold is this? Nearly a

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thousand years old. Ciebgy. Here, we're only 80 mimes or so from

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Normandy. They came across the channel. They arrived here. This is

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their vital bridgehead on the British Isles. Guess what this is

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in there? It's a prison. Brilliant. Somebody would have been mangled up

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here like that. In your imaginations. Pretend to whip me!

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Go on I'd rather not? Go on, just I think we're going the right

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direction. You think. You're sure? You're certain? It is not every day

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you come to a place where a king of England has been killed. Two of

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William the Conqueror's sons were killed here. This is where William

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the Conqueror's son was killed n a hunting accident. An arrow hit him

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in the breast and he died instantly. If you would have thought a bow and

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arrow was the weapon of choice, there would be better aim than that.

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The stags going through the undergrowth. A convenient accident

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to kill the king of England, is it not? You are suggesting foul play?

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He would not be the first king to die from those means. That is for

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sure. Our current Queen, the ancestor ral line, does that reach

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back? Yes. It was not until 1400 that the king started to speak

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English. 400 years, French was the official language of this country.

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That is amazing. It is weird that didn't stick around then, isn't it?

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It did. That's why, we're a mixture. A tiny bit. There are lots of words.

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All the words to do with Government and law, the Normans introduced

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them all. Parliament.... So, what happened to Norman and the rest of

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his mates? The Normans are still here. Really? Douglas - your second

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name - that was a Norman knight who went to Scotland. They are part of

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our history. Really, Douglas? Do you want cheese on that? Yes,

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please. What do you reckon to day one of the road trip? So far, so

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good. I loved the castle. And they are back next week. If

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Michael loved that castle, he would adore this one.

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I'm standing inside the Great Tower here at Dover castle. It was build

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by William the Conqueror's great grandson, Henry II, 800 years ago.

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It is the largest keep in Britain. It is incredibly secure. These

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walls are more than 20 feet thick. No-one was getting inside this room.

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This is the King's Hall. Henry spent an enormous amount on the

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castle and on the keep. Paul Pattison is the lead historian here.

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Hello. Hello. What would have happened in this hall? It is set

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out for a grand reception of Henry II, and an important royal guest.

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You cannot help but have your eye drawn to these thrones here. They

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are vivid, would they have been like that? They are as authentic as

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we can make them. Yes, the furniture and decoration were

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elaborate and colourful. They adored colour. Colour was about

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about expressing expense because it was very expensive to do. They

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wanted to show off. Quite important that the king's throne bigger than

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everybody else's. He spent an enormous amount. Many millions in

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today's money. Why was Dover castle so important to him? It is about

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the aftermath of Thomas Beckett. He was a friend. They fell out

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politically, as a result of which Beckett is murdered. Henry is

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widely blamed for his murder. So, what happened all of a sudden is

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that Beckett is made a saint. Thousands of people are coming to

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Dover on their way to Canterbury to visit his shrine. They need to come

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here first? This is the King's Chamber, where he would have slept.

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Although that does not look like a king-size bed? It is what you call

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a small double N actual fact, all the images we have of people in

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medieval beds they are sleeping semi upright. Somebody like Henry

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would have been so busy he would conduct some business in bed.

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of state as well. We told you about the 20-foot walls and the castle

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would have been protected by a garrison of knights. Presumably the

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bravest men in the land. I know someone who would fit that bill

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today. I wish! I don't think I have the hang of this. As it turns out,

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knights might not have been as heroic as we think. Lucy Worsley

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It's the stuff of legend. This is a fairytale scene that is a classic

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theme in art and literature and film. Where does the image of the

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knight in shining armour come from? Was he as gentle and honourable as

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the stories suggest? 1,000 years ago, the first knights were

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professional soldiers who fought on horseback. These early, medieval

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warriors were some of the country's most wealthy men, with expensive

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horses, armour and equipment. One of them is considered to be the

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greatest night that ever lived, William marshal. Born in 1146. He

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was the most powerful man in the land.

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How did he reach such great heights? Because he was the most

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gall lent, the nobleest knight in England? No. Although he was later

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known as the flower of chivalry, in fact he was one of the most brutal

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men. The key to Marshal's success was

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his mastery of the tools of the knight's trade. The most important

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weapon, siment bolically is of course the sword. This would have

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been razor-sharp. This is high technology. This is not course,

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simple brutality. I can tell you that it works. Just the fact of

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holding this makes me feel incredibly macho.

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Marshal did not just use these tools defending the country, he

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made his fortd tune. In an early -- fortune in an early spectator sport.

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Two teams would thunder over a field towards each other and smash

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into each other. The whole thing just disintegrates

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into combat with lances, all over the field.

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Close combat, with sharp weapons is a nasty business.

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How did you win a tournament? What was the point? If you beat someone

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into submission in a tournament they are your prisoner. They have

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to pay a significant amount of money to you to free themselves. If

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you are a great fighter that could translate to significant financial

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a fluepbs and social standing. Tournaments were well publicised.

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There were supporters. The equivalent of modern football

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supporters. This is a culture celebrity.

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Just like modern celebrities, as nights were more famous, interest

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from the public grew. Any celebrity needs people to be

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talking about him. The literature of chivalry, the legends are meant

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to exaggerate the knight's power. So people see them as these

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superhero figures. By the time he died, aged 73,

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Marshal served four kings. He had become regent of England, running

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the country while the king was too young to govern. His effigy lies on

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the floor in Temple Chushch, in London. It is -- Church, in London.

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It is surprising his eyes are open. These knights are not dead. They

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are waiting, just waiting to be brought back to life. There is

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something moving, that he should be so serene and so dignified, but so

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alert. His effigy is a deliberate attempt

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to turn him into a legend, an honourable warrior. There is no

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trace of the bloods and guts where he made his name. So nieths were

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not quite the -- knights were not quite the romantic heroes. They

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were the most power-hungry men in history. Perhaps it is time to re-

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write the legend. They look brutal to me. Don't they

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you? Don't come near me! So much for the knights in shining armour.

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Thank you for sending questions to us through Twitter. We have one

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here. Dan doesn't know what I will ask. History is a big subject.

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is one from Pamela. "Why are they actually called knights?" I think

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it is because it is from a German word when the Saxons came over and

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conquered England. It meant a servant. Knights of people who went

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with their Lord or king and they sort of went into battle as their

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servants. That is what I think. Well done. I hope you are satisfied

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with that. Knights, as a whole, they were for 500 years and then

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none of them. Over here, I am very excited by this bit because we have

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some weapons F we understand these weapons we understand why we no

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longer see guys in this armour marching through the streets. This

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is a cross bow. It whats been around for ages. The best thing is

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anybody can use it. That means me, doesn't it? Let's have a go.

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low. I've got it. One, two, three... Good shot! Look at that. Amazing.

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Thank you, amazing. Try and re-load it. Bring the tension back on that.

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You have to use this contraption here. It is slow to load. That is

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why the English and Welsh in particular embraced the long-bow. A

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classic, iconic weapon of the 1400s. Look at this - it is accurate, much,

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much faster and you shoot perhaps seven, eight, nine times the arrows.

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So there would be a lot of arrows. Fast, accurate. What was the

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problem with this? One problem. I will show you it right now. That is

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as much as I can do. He has got the big shoulders. You have to train

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people. What you don't need to train people for is this. This is

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the original handgun. It looks nothing like a handgun. It is the

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ancestor of all guns. Gun powder comes over from the east. There is

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no shot in this. It might make a bang.

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Once that comes along it is a game- changer. It would blast through the

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armour. It is a primitive version. Eventually it is the end of the

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knights and castles. Castles will get through castle walls as well.

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We've had a great day here at Dover castle. Thank you to everybody here.

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Thanks too to Dover castle for letting us lose in this wonderful

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piece of British history. Next week we are taking to the seas on board

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on what was the greatest warship in the world, HMS Warrior.

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Masterchef's Greg Wallace will join tous look at how war rationing --

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join us to look at how war rationing lead to recipes. If you

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have any second world recipes get in touch with us. Go to our website

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