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Just over a century ago, the motion camera was invented

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and changed for ever the way we were called our history.

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For the first time, we could see life through the eyes of ordinary people.

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Across this series, we will bring these rare archive films back to life

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with the help of our vintage mobile cinema.

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We'll be inviting people with a story to tell to step on board

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and relive moments they thought were gone for ever.

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They'll see their relatives on screen for the first time,

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come face to face with their younger selves

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and celebrate our amazing 20th-century past.

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This is the people's story, our story.

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Our vintage mobile cinema was originally commissioned in 1967 to show training films to workers.

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Today, it's been lovingly restored

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and loaded up with remarkable film footage, preserved for us

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by the British Film Institute and other national and regional film archives.

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In this series, we will be travelling to towns and cities across the country

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and showing films from the 20th century that give us the Reel History of Britain.

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Today, we're pulling up in the 1940s.

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-# Wish me luck...

-To hear stories about a time when millions of children

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were evacuated during World War Two.

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# Here I go on my way

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# Wish me luck As you wave me goodbye

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# With a cheer, not a tear

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# Make it gay. #

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Today, we are in Torquay.

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This place was thought to be a safe haven

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for thousands of the millions of children who were evacuated from the great cities

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at the beginning of the Second World War in an operation known as Pied Piper.

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Coming up, EastEnders star Derek Martin relives the terror of the Blitz.

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Mum threw herself on me. Whoof!

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The whole shelter shook like that. We knew it was very close.

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The epic adventure of a runaway evacuee.

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If my mother and father were going to be killed, I wanted to be killed, too,

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you know.

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And the child who survived a torpedo attack by the Nazis.

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They got me and pushed me to go up these steps.

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They threw us into the lifeboat and that was the last I saw of my brother.

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We have come to Torquay in Devon because, in the 1940s,

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it was considered a safe place for children. Evacuees from all over the country

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and airmen from all over the world poured into this small seaside town.

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As a result, around 5,000 evacuees and over 50,000 airmen

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were packed into the hotels and B&Bs that were once reserved for holidaymakers.

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When the grim clouds of war loomed over Britain, the Government knew

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our major cities faced brutal attacks from the German Luftwaffe.

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AIRCRAFT DRONE

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EXPLOSIONS

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BIG BEN TOLLS

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So an evacuation scheme called Operation Pied Piper began on September 1st, 1939,

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two days before war was declared.

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Britons were told there'd be no greater sacrifice

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than to say goodbye to their loved ones and, within days,

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one and a half million civilians, mostly children,

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were transported to places of safety in the countryside.

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The evacuation was an astonishing event

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and the largest mass movement of people in British history.

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We'll be hearing how this experience changed the lives of all those involved.

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My guests today have memories of wartime evacuation

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and they've come from all over the country to share their personal stories.

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Many of them will be seeing the films we are about to screen for the first time.

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They will show photos of their younger selves

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and revealing how the evacuation change their lives for ever.

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Kitty Capitelli has travelled here today from London.

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She grew up in Camberwell, south of the Thames,

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and was evacuated when she was nine years old with her older sisters Mary and Hetty.

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-Can you give us some idea of what happened to you as a girl when you were evacuated?

-Yes, yes.

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I was one of the masses that went off on 1st September 1939,

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which also happened to be my birthday. I was nine years old on that day.

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We were five children in the family, two brothers and three sisters.

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The two brothers were too young to go, so I was sent off with my other two sisters.

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And, on that particular day, we had no idea.

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We had no idea where were we going.

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I thought it was my birthday and I was getting a day out at the seaside.

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-So you thought you were going to the seaside for your birthday?

-Yes. Yes.

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Until I looked round and saw my mother with the baby in her arms

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and my younger brother holding on, crying.

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I realised, "What is she crying for? Why is she crying?"

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That was the original journey.

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We are about to wind the clock back 70 years for Kitty.

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She is going to watch other wartime evacuees leaving their families behind,

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just as she did all those years ago.

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These films will take Kitty back to that day on 1st September

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when she was put on a train bound for Ipswich.

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It made me quite sad, really. Actually, to tell you the truth,

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watching that film, I felt like waving.

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It was all I could do to stop waving to them,

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or waving goodbye to the family again.

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You were taken, transported back that far, too feel you've got to wave to your mother.

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Like Kitty, most evacuees had little idea where they were going or when they would return,

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and many were separated from their siblings.

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When Kitty and her sisters reached Ipswich, they, too, were parted

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and only Kitty and her elder sister Hetty stayed together.

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Eventually, somebody came and said, "I'll take them too."

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We were driven off in this huge car.

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We got to this lovely, big house. We thought, "Oh, we're all right here."

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It turned out to be the house of a Lord and Lady.

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We got to the house. They said, "That's your room down there."

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It was a basement room.

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There were two mattresses there, a pillow at one end

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and a folded army blanket at the other.

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And we thought, "Oh my God, this is awful. Why are we here?"

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Evacuees were sometimes chosen for a specific purpose.

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Strong boys would help on farms

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and girls were expected to help with the housework.

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Some, like Kitty, were made to work very hard.

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The format was then, at 5 o'clock every morning, we were made to get up

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and they had a long trestle table in the kitchen

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with all this silverware, like cloches and huge trays

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and knives and forks.

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And my sister and I had to polish this up before we went to school.

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We were always late, always late.

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And they didn't really take to evacuees, the school.

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We got the cane practically every morning. Three whacks on each hand.

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And then the bombing in London hadn't occurred up to then,

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so my mother thought... Like most people, a lot of the evacuees went back home.

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By the spring of 1940, no bombs had dropped

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and 80 per cent of evacuees, like Kitty, returned home.

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This became known as the Phoney War.

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As war progressed, Kitty received terrible news about her father.

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-I picked it up. It was in a brown envelope.

-Yeah.

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My mother was in the kitchen and I picked it up

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and I said my mother, "It's a letter, it's got OHMS on it."

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She said, "All right." I said, "What does that mean?" She said, "I don't know, just open it and read it."

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And I actually had to read this to her.

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I didn't realise, you know, the significance of it.

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My mother was making tea. She had her back to me.

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That was the latter. That was the letter we had. SHE SOBS

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That was sad, because that was the end of my...

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You know, I adored my father. It happened to so many people.

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Kitty's father died in Italy.

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She was one of 200,000 children who lost their fathers during World War Two.

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These were traumatic times. But my next guest found the war changed his life for the better.

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Gordon Abbott, from Milton Keynes, went from city boy to farmer's son

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when he was evacuated from Battersea in London at the age of seven.

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-Tell us where you landed up and what it was like.

-Yes.

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I was very fortunate.

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I eventually was billeted with a farmer

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and his wife who had no children of their own.

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They were brought up in Devon

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in a farming community for several generations.

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They were very strict, Victorian upbringing,

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but, for whatever reason, I settled in extremely well,

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solely because I was very much part of the family from the outset.

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Evacuation was a heart-wrenching decision for most families.

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Gordon is about to watch a film that was made to persuade parents like his

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to send their children away.

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SIGNATURE TUNE

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This film, called Westward Ho!, shows happy children being efficiently evacuated

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to the safety of Torquay.

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"These children are setting out on what is to them a great adventure."

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"The train that is carrying them away will not be machine-gunned from the air."

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"It even takes with it the spirit of holiday."

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Like the children in this film, Gordon was also sent to the West Country.

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Watching it will take him back to the days he lived with Mr and Mrs Newton

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-on their farm near Bude in Cornwall.

-I was introduced as a member of the family.

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If I can just say this, this is important, dear Uncle,

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whenever he introduced me to his friends, with his Devon-Cornish accent,

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he would say something to the effect,

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CORNISH ACCENT: "Let me introduce thee, then." "This is Gordon, my little evacuee."

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And he'd say that every time, bless him.

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Mr and Mrs Newton treated Gordon like the son they never had.

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All their love and affection was showered on him.

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But, after five years, it was time to say goodbye.

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I remember clearly the time that I had to return back to London.

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That was the first time ever I saw Uncle cry.

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He was crying, Auntie was crying and I was crying.

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Here I was saying goodbye.

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And Gordon couldn't readjust to city life.

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And fortunately for me, my mother realised, I am sure,

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that I was really unhappy.

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I must have said, "I wish I was back with Auntie and Uncle again."

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And, fortunately, arrangements were made and I returned back to live with Auntie and Uncle

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within about a few months.

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Gordon spent the remainder of his childhood in the country.

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Torquay has changed a lot since the 1940s,

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but one person who remembers it vividly as it was when the evacuees came here

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is local resident Rosemary Firch.

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Rosemary wasn't an evacuee. She's lived in Torquay all her life.

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She was ten when the children from the blitzed cities of Bristol and London arrived in the town.

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She is pictured here, with her father,

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at an evacuee Christmas party at the Town Hall.

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Both of them would soon find out that Torquay wasn't safe at all.

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-That was the irony?

-Yes.

-They'd been sent here to be safe and Torquay was bombed.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Torquay suffered a total of 21 hit-and-run air raids by the German Luftwaffe,

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who targeted the town because of its munitions factories and hotels,

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where 55,000 airmen were stationed.

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One of the worst came on Sunday, May 30th, 1943,

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and it's a day that Rosemary will never forget.

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I was sitting on Oddicombe Beach at the time

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and we saw this line of black dots coming in.

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They looked as if they were just above sea level.

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I thought the plane was going to go into the cliff.

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And then, after that, there was this terrific explosion as we knew the bombs were dropping.

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There was a direct hit on the church hall of St Mary's at nearby Babbacombe,

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where a Sunday school was being held.

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21 children lost their lives.

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My mother, who was in the St John's Ambulance,

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had gone up to the church.

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She was one of the people who helped to bring those children out

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from the rubble and carry them across the road

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to a first-aid station that they set up in the hotel across the road.

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She lived until she was 101 and, do you know,

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she'd lost her memory at the end, but whenever she saw that picture of that church,

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the whole horror of that story came back to her.

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It was a great tragedy.

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On Reel History today, we're in Torquay on the South Coast,

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hearing some remarkable true stories of how wartime evacuation changed children's lives for ever.

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My next guest is 80-year-old Bunty Tait from Cornwall.

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Bunty grow up in Old Coulsdon, Greater London.

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She was a remarkable 11-year old

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who embarked on an incredible journey to be reunited with her parents.

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A lot of us were crying our eyes out. We did not want to go.

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If my mother and father were going to be killed, I wanted to be killed, too,

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you know?

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Bunty is about to step on board and be taken back to remember the time

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she was evacuated to Tyldesley in Lancashire.

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How will she feel about going back

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to the sort of place she ran away from all those years ago?

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I insisted that I had to stay with my sister

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and we were billeted on two spinster ladies.

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And we thought they were about 100. They were probably in their 50s.

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And from that moment on, we were hungry.

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Day after day, we were hungry, because they didn't know how to feed us.

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Watching these films reminds Bunty how desperately homesick she was.

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Everything had to be cleared away at night, locked in cupboards.

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We never played games with them like we'd do with Mum and Dad.

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We only listened to Children's Hour.

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Never went running about the streets like we did at home.

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It was... It was difficult.

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I thought, "I'm not putting up with this, what can I do?"

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So I wrote home.

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-GIRL'S VOICE:

-"Dear Mummy, this is only a short note,

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"just to ask you for some money."

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I used to write weekly, asking for money.

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And then I thought, "If I'm careful with this money,

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"I could save it up and get home."

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That took a long time.

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"We've only just about six shillings left for Monday.

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"I don't know what I'll do after Monday.

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"All my love to Daddy and you, Bunty."

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Hundreds of homesick evacuees ran away and returned home.

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Bunty and her sister were two of them.

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One day, the sisters just walked out of the house,

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leaving most of their belongings and a note for the two ladies.

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I remember the note. I just said, "I'm sorry, we've gone home."

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And I never got back to them to apologise. Isn't that awful?

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Incredibly, these two young girls safely completed

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the 200-mile epic journey from Lancashire to London.

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My sister was dragging her heels a bit by now. She was very tired.

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And we went into the shop, which was open.

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My father was behind the counter,

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in front of all the cigarettes, and he was a very big man, my father.

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And, erm, he went black, he went blue,

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he went red, and then he went white.

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Perhaps I'm making that up, but I was... I thought he was going to kill me, just by the look of him.

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Didn't come near. Just by looking, "He's going to kill me!"

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He didn't, of course. He came over and hugged us. "What the hell...?"

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"What the bloody hell are you doing here?! How did you get here?! Who brought you?!"

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I think that toughened me up for the rest of my life.

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I still cry when I think about evacuation.

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They shouldn't take children away from their mothers and fathers,

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when they're that age.

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Nothing would stop Bunty from being with her parents.

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Her story is quite remarkable.

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Next, I'm meeting someone who was lucky enough to be evacuated with his mother - Derek Martin,

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best known for playing Charlie Slater in EastEnders.

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Derek grow up as an only child of the East End of London.

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His father, a fireman, insisted he should be evacuated with his mum at the age of seven.

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When were you evacuated?

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Early 1940, when the Blitz was starting and really at its height.

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And, er, my mum and me were shipped off.

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My father had to stay in London,

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because he was in the National Fire Service.

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So we were shipped off to Hereford.

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My mum said later on they were a very nice family.

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A man and his wife, a daughter of 13 and a boy at my age, seven.

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But, to be honest, I hated it.

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I hated it, because it was out of my familiarity.

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How can I say without swearing? I was being a little swine!

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Only child, I didn't have any brothers or sisters and I missed my dad.

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And after three or four months, Mum said, "I've had enough.

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"I'd sooner face the Blitz than face this every day."

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So Derek and his mother returned to London for the remainder of the war.

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Although the family were happily reunited,

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they faced 76 consecutive nights of aerial bombardment.

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What sort of London did you go back to?

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I went back to the Blitz again. The bombs.

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6 o'clock, down the shelter, set the candles.

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That's why I can't stand candles.

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If I take a lady out for dinner, I blow the candles out immediately.

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Because the smell brings back the shelters, in the Anderson shelter.

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Then, four months after we got back, a direct hit on the house,

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which was only 50ft from where we were in the Anderson shelter at the end of the garden.

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That bomb, it starts off at a high-pitched whistle.

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HE WHISTLES

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It ends up, whoosh, a rush of air, and Mum threw herself on me.

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You could feel it was going... Whoof! The shelter shook like that.

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We knew it was very close.

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And then we looked over and you could see the spars and it was alight.

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So you knew it had hit the house. But you got used to it.

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Derek and his family had a lucky escape.

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15,000 people were killed in London and, across the country,

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40,000 other civilians were killed during the Blitz.

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So it's no wonder parents often went to remarkable lengths to ensure the safety of their children.

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It might seem incredible that some shipped them away as far away as Australia and Canada.

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The Children's Overseas Reception Board evacuated just over 2,500 children.

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I'm off to meet one of those sea evacuees.

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Whatever they could spare...

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'83-year-old Derek Capel has travelled here today from Yeovil.

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'He was a 12-year-old sea evacuee in 1940 when his parents decided to send him,

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'along with his five-year old brother Alan, to Canada.'

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Why did your parents want to send you to Canada?

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Well, because there was a distant Jewish connection with my family.

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At the time, in 1940, there was talk of a German invasion.

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My mother had this great fear, because she realised what was happening

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to the Jews in the rest of Europe with the Nazis,

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and she decided that the best thing for us,

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the two of us, my brother and myself, was to go abroad, out of it all.

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Derek is about to see film archive of another sea crossing

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that will remind him of Friday, 13th September, 1940.

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On that day, he and his brother Alan said their goodbyes

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along with 90 other sea evacuees at Liverpool

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before boarding his ship, the SS City of Benares.

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It was one of the 19-strong convoy bound for North America.

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It was Derek's responsibility to look after his younger brother.

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I had strict orders to look after him, and so I did.

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And he was my best friend. I taught him at five.

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He could tie up his shoelaces, he could read.

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He would read his comic and I would read my comic.

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For the first 300 miles, the Royal Navy protected the convoy,

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but lurking beneath the surface of the Atlantic were German U-boats,

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criss-crossing the waters, looking for British ships to attack.

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Four nights into the voyage, a torpedo was fired at the SS City of Benares

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while Derek and his brother Alan were in their bunks.

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That night, for the first time, we were told we all had to have baths, so we all had baths.

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We were all in bed lovely and comfortable at 9 o'clock at night.

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And then, we were asleep, my brother was comfortable, I was comfortable.

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About quarter past ten, there was a great big, hollow boom.

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I got my brother out. We were in pitch darkness. There was water leaking.

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We could hear water sprang, everything like that.

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A torpedo had struck the stern and the ship started to sink rapidly.

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Derek and Alan knew the drill and followed the emergency lights to the deck.

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We went to our lifeboat, which was the last lifeboat on the thing. We went up there.

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The first couple went up.

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I was looking after, hanging on to my brother. Because he was only five years old.

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And then they grabbed me out of his hands and pushed me to go up these steps.

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Went up the steps and they threw us into the lifeboat.

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That was the last I saw of my brother.

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Once separated from his brother,

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Derek was put in lifeboat 12, the last to be lowered into the icy waters.

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In the chaos of a Force 10 storm, the lifeboat got separated from the other survivors

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and drifted helplessly for eight days.

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I was constantly thinking about my brother

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because I didn't know what had happened to him.

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Suddenly, somebody said, "A plane." We didn't expect anything like that.

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After being spotted by a British seaplane,

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the survivors were rescued by HMS Anthony and taken to Glasgow.

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Derek was one of the lucky ones - 77 of the 90 evacuees had perished at sea.

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After this tragedy, no more children were sent abroad.

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-NEWSREEL:

-"After being found by an RAF flying boat,

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"more survivors of the torpedoed City of Benares reach port aboard a warship."

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Today, Derek is watching his 12-year-old self in this newsreel for the very first time.

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"The youngsters were marvellously looked after by one of the escorts, Miss Cornish,

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"a London music teacher. That the boys are none the worse for their adventure,

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"seems to be proved by this bedtime picture."

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Derek spent 60 years wondering what actually happened to his five-year-old brother.

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Then, at a memorial service in 2000, he met an ex-sailor from HMS Hurricane,

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who helped rescue survivors in the first 24 hours.

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He came up and said, "I was coxswain on the Hurricane,"

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which was the ship that picked up the children on the first days.

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He said, "We picked your brother up."

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He said, "We picked three boys up, all little ones, but they were all asleep when..."

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"We couldn't wake them up." And so that was it.

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He said, "At their funerals..." He said, "They were buried at sea."

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"At their funerals, 90% of the crew went to the funerals

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"and the 10% who had to be on duty, were on duty,

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"but 100% of the crew were in tears."

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That really touched me, you know.

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Derek's harrowing childhood experience has left an indelible mark on his life.

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I could never cuddle anyone,

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because the last one I gave a cuddle to was my brother.

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You see, I was holding him, around me, like that.

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And so I've felt sorry for everybody I've met since, including my son.

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Because I've always had that fear, it's always been there,

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that if you hang on to them too tight, you lose them.

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You know, it's a horrible feeling.

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Britain's evacuation scheme officially came to an end in March 1946,

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although many had returned home sooner.

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The Second World War is one of the most extraordinary periods in our history,

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and perhaps in world history, and we did send away 3.5 million children to protect the future.

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Hopefully, these stories we have heard today will serve as some sort of tribute

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to all those evacuees and their parents

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who made such a tremendous sacrifice for this country.

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Next time on Reel History...

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..we're in London's Soho in the 1950s,

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remembering the teenager and the Teddy Boy.

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-I never really got a Teddy Boy, did you?

-Yeah, I went...

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I had a date with one once, but I never went again.

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