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It's 100 years since the first pioneering women | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
joined the British Armed Forces. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Today, women serve alongside men, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
together in combat, on the front line. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
If you can do it and you want to do it, you should be able to. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
To see how much things have changed... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
-Love it! -How do I look? | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
..five well-known faces revisit either their own... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Morning, ma'am. I'm the captain of HMS Puncher. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
You called me ma'am, how sweet. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
..or a family member's military past. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
They just got stuck in. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
It was exciting. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
War was intense. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
From defending land... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
-..sea... -I don't want to go that way. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
..and air. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
These are the extraordinary stories of a century of women at war. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
Today, double Olympic champion Dame Kelly Holmes retraces her own career | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
in the Army, and fulfils an ambition once closed off | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
to women in the military. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
It's a Challenger 2 tank! I'm so excited about this bit! | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
She meets a World War II veteran who was a trailblazer for women | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
serving on the home front... | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
All the boys were going off. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
I was 17-and-a-half. So I joined up. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
You wanted to do your bit. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
..hears from the first ever woman | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
to pass the elite All Arms Commando Course... | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
There were no concessions. They made me feel part of the team, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
they made me feel that it was right for me to be there. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
..and gets the chance to train the next generation | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
of young female recruits determined to serve Queen and country. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
Lean slightly back. Take the one rope in the middle. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
I want to do the assault course. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
I want to be up there on the ropes! | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Kelly Holmes bringing it home for Britain! | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Can she get there? One more yard! Come on, Kelly Holmes! | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
It's gold! Kelly's won the gold for Great Britain! | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
The sheer joy and surprise on the face of Kelly Holmes | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
as she claimed the first of her two gold medals | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
remains one of the most memorable moments | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
from the 2004 Athens Olympics. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
In my eyes, you ran because you wanted to be good | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
and you ran because you wanted medals. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
But before she became one of Britain's | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
greatest-ever sporting heroes, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Kelly had followed another dream, to join the British Army. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
I needed a career and, you know, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
I wasn't a girl that wanted to be a hairdresser or beautician. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
I felt that, by going in the military, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
it would give me a bit of, again, identity, something different. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I didn't want to stay just at home. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
I wanted to feel that I could achieve something, meet new people, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
travel and possibly toughen up a little bit. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Kelly's desire to toughen up came from her childhood | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
in Hildenborough, Kent. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
I think back in the '70s, you know, it wasn't really | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
the thing for a white girl to have a mixed-race child | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
and growing up, for my mother, my mother was only 17 when she had me, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
and so for her, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
you know, it was a pretty tough life | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
and I didn't know my father. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
He left before I was one. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Kelly didn't let any of that hold her back, and her natural athletic | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
ability soon caught the attention of her teachers at school. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
I wasn't academic at all. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
But I loved running | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
and I loved running just because I was good at it and I used to win. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
And it brought me alive and it gave me a sense of belonging. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
And it was because of my PE teacher, who was just, you know, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
a fantastic woman, and I think she knew when people needed help | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
and pushed them in the right direction. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
And when an Army recruitment officer came to her school, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Kelly realised she could turn her love of sport into a career. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
When I was 14, I watched a - videos back then - of the Army... | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
Go! | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Soldiers, the PTIs screaming and shouting at the other soldiers | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
that were going under the scramble nets | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
and over the 12-foot walls, and I wanted to be both. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
I wanted to be the one getting down and dirty and the one, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
you know, shouting and screaming, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
so from 14 I pretty much knew what I wanted to do in life. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
It was Kelly's PE teacher at school, Debbie Page, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
who believed that a life in the Forces | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
could be a good fit for the lively teenager. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Wow, this takes me back. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
Good old sports halls! | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
You needed a bit of leadership. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
I thought the Army would give you a focus. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
-Yeah. -Because you didn't want to be tied to an office. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Structure was probably good for you. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
For me, who was interested in sport or outside life, or whatever, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
-I don't think there's many options. -If you think about it, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
if you were a girl back then who was interested in sport | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
and you didn't want to necessarily go down the teaching route, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
then the life to be outside and to be active | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
was going to be in the Army. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
With her mind made up, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Kelly's next task was to convince her mum | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
the Army was the right career choice. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
After I decided I was going to be in the Army, I was 14, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
I made her take me to the careers office and said, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
"I want to join the Army." | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
They said, "Come back when you're 17 and nine months." | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
When I was 15, I told my mum to take me again, just in case it changed, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
and 16 and 17, until I could actually do my entrance test, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
so we went every single year until I was old enough to get in, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
so she knew I wanted to get in! | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Shortly before her 18th birthday, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Kelly signed up to the Women's Royal Army Corps. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
It was the end of the 1980s, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
a decade featuring a high level of military involvement from | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
British Forces, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
with the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and the Falklands War. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
It was a time of huge political and social change. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Women were still struggling for equal pay, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
but as a result of changes to employment practice, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
the percentage of women entering the Armed Forces doubled. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
But before Kelly could find her place in the Army, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
she had to undergo her basic training, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
adjusting to a new life of discipline, routine and order - | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
and that also meant getting to grips with her new uniform. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
So I've got my first beret | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
from when I joined the Women's Royal Army Corps. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
I actually had a big Afro then, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
so you can imagine trying to get an Afro into that little cap. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Yeah, I never looked that cool, really, I have to say. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
I'll probably keep hold of that for ever. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
It's nearly 30 years since Kelly joined the force and today, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
she's come to the Army Training Centre in Pirbright | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
to meet its newest recruits. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Kelly's curious to see just how different things are | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
from when she joined up. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
Her first stop, the dormitories. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
One thing that's reassuringly familiar | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
is the high standards of laundry expected. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Show us your sleeves. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Do you still use starch or are you not allowed? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
We're not allowed to use starch yet. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
-OK. -But we do the soap method. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Look at that. Razor sharp, that is. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Razor sharp. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
So, have you all had your kit chucked out your cupboards? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. -Yeah? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
Beds turned upside down? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Yeah. I'm glad they keep it up. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
How did you find drill? Because I personally... | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
-Drill? -..find it quite difficult. -Yeah. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I did get in trouble a lot on drill, to be honest. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Because I used to laugh. I thought it was quite funny. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
When you're a new recruit and you're camel marching, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
they say "halt", and you all bang into each other... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-It looks really funny. -You all... -Yeah, exactly. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
But, no, it's all part of it, isn't it? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
But some things have changed. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
When Kelly trained in the late '80s, she slept in a women-only base. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
Now the boys are just one floor below | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
although, as you'd expect, there are strict rules. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
You've got about ten on this floor, females. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Any interaction with the guys or it's total separate? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Total. You have to be separate. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I was told you're not allowed to pretty much interact, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
-otherwise you could be chucked out, right? -Exactly, walk the other way. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Does it seem weird that you just can't say hello or...? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Surprisingly, no. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
-No? It is what it is? -Yeah, you just get used to it. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
Kelly's interested to meet some of the male recruits | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
to find out what they think of the new closer arrangement. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
All bulling their shoes. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Now, they should be perfect, because you're on your last week, right? | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
-RECRUITS: -Yeah. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-Yeah? Not too bad. -Getting there. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
What do you think about why they separate you? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
If people were to start having relationships and, you know, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
sort of fraternising and stuff like that... | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
-Yeah. -..obviously then that can lead down the route of arguments | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
and stuff like that, so I can understand why we're kept separate. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Can't be having any distractions off your training and stuff like that. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
-Mm-hm. -So it helps to keep you focused, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
helps you keep in that professional mind-frame. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
What's your perception of women in the Army? A good thing? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
-Yeah, yeah, really good thing. -They should, shouldn't? | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Something I've noticed is, they're a lot more organised than we are! | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-OK. -You know, especially when the girls get told to sort of do this, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
do this over the weekend, do this, do this, so it gets to Monday, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
everything's done and we're a bit like, "Oh, we forgot to do this." | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
You have to tell them like to do one thing and then straightaway... | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
And they're straight in there. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
-Yeah. -And do you think it's good that women now have a chance to | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
pretty much do any role in the Army, where before they maybe didn't? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
I think it comes down to the individual. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-Yeah. -There are some women that are a lot stronger than some men. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
That's a very mature approach. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
Good luck for the parade and good luck for your careers. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -All right, take care. Very nice! | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Kelly's impressed by the attitude of the new generation of recruits, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
because now, unlike in her day, over a 14-week period, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
these young women will experience the same gruelling training | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
as their male counterparts... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Hard, fast and aggressive, let's go! | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
-Set. Go. -Recruits, move! | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Move. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
Next two down. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
..learning to fight... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Ready? Fire. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
RIFLE CLICKS | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
OK, your rifle fire's all right, rifle fire's all right, rifle stops. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
..and survive on the battlefield. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
What I'd like you to do, in pairs, work out where you are. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
The Army was the first of the three British military forces | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
to open close-combat roles to women. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
100 years ago, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
the Army was also responsible | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
for forming the inaugural all-female unit, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
By the Second World War, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
it evolved into the Auxiliary Territorial Service, or ATS. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
More than 250,000 women served during World War II | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
in roles as varied as clerks, drivers and ammunition inspectors, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
and as part of the crews that operated anti-aircraft guns. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
By the end of the war, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
it was acknowledged that women would be a valuable asset | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
to a peacetime army and so, in 1949, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
the Women's Royal Army Corps was formed | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
and for every woman who's served over the decades, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
horizons have been opened. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
I joined to travel, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
because travel was something which, when I was growing up, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
you only did if you were rich | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and things like that, so it was more for adventure. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
It was in my mind to leave home. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
I wanted...just wanted to get away, that's all, and do something. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
So I went and signed on | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
virtually the day I was 17-and-a-half. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
You felt a bit like a pioneer, because before that, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
they didn't accept women, but there were thousands of us | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
at that particular time. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Today, women account for 9% of the Army, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
and Kelly's joining some of them for lunch. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
I'm a big believer in men and women should do the same. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
-Yeah. -I think if a guy can do it, then a girl can do it, too. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
-What do you think? -I think at the end of the day, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
we're in the same job as them, if we can't keep up with them, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
then it's our problem, not theirs. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
I'd be with you on that, I have to say. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Do you think there's any particular challenges that women are facing | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
currently that maybe men don't? | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
What about having children, then? | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
I had my son when I was a little bit younger, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
which has now encouraged me to join the Army, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-so I can make a decent life for him. -OK. How old is your son? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
-He's eight now. -Eight? Yeah. Oh, wow. If you don't mind me asking, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
who looks after your son while you're here? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
-Right now, he's with my parents. -OK. -Yeah, so he's quite far away. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
A lot of people think that if you've got a child you can't join the Army, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
but that's absolutely not true. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
I mean, they help out with childcare, as well. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
I'm lucky enough to have my family's support, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
so they're looking after my child now for me, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
but once I get sent to my section, he can come alongside with me. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
-Looking forward to that? -Definitely, yeah. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
-I've missed him. -And what about this? I mean, this is humongous. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
-Do you all get them tailored? -Mine is tailored. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Yours is tailored? | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
Even though I'm in the Army and I love being in the Army, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
I am so girly. Like, so, so girly, and at times you just feel like... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
Right, what am I wearing? Like, it's ridiculous. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
-And you do look like a man in it. -It's so cool to speak to you all. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
I love it, I love being back here. I'm, like, oh, in my element. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
What's nice is you're seeing the men and the women side by side. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
I just love their attitude | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
and positive thinking around the fact that we | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
just want to be the best we can be. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
We don't want to be discriminated against, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
but more heart-warming was the men saying the women should be given as | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
much opportunities. I thought that was great. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
Kelly's dream when she joined up was to become | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
an Army physical training instructor, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
but first, she had to serve her time in a different Army job. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Determined to keep on the move, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
Kelly decided to train as a heavy goods vehicle driver. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
I used to drive these. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Double the clutch and all of that! | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Rrr! | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
I was lucky I'd passed my driving test before I joined the military, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
though. So I had one step ahead. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
Not only did Kelly deliver supplies and soldiers between different | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
military bases, she also got her hands dirty. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
It wasn't just driving, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
it was actually doing all the mechanical work on your vehicle, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
so obviously I learned a lot then. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Since the First World War, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
women were recruited as mechanics and to drive ambulances. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
And when the world went to war for a second time, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
the British Forces once again | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
called on female drivers to play their part. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
You must admit that the ATS look pretty good! | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
In 1942, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
Veronica Webb was one of the girls who responded to this call-to-arms. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
She joined the Auxiliary Territorial Service as a freshfaced 17-year-old | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
and served for four years as a driver. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
We were all terribly keen to do our bit in those days, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
and all the boys were going off, I was 17-and-a-half, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
so I joined up. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
I already drove and I'd been in a garage with a friend, you know, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
just learning about cars, actually, for six months. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
I eventually became a driver-mechanic. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-Mm-hm? -And then I went to York and drove an ambulance... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
-You went to York? Oh, I was in York. -Were you? -Lovely there, isn't it? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
-Yes, yes. -Yeah. -Yes, it was. -Gosh, so you drove an ambulance in York? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
I drove an ambulance in York, at York military hospital. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Sometimes we would take very badly burnt airmen, really... | 0:16:25 | 0:16:33 | |
-Yeah? -..to Lincolnshire, I think it was. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
It was a long way, so you had to drive jolly carefully. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
That must have been quite difficult then, to see all of that. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Yes. I had to collect a whole lot of soldiers | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
who'd come back who were mentally sort of... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-Traumatised, I suppose, were they? -Traumatised, yes. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
And they just sort of came out like zombies, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
you know, and I remember them being put into the back of the ambulance, | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
you know... Very sad. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-They just found it unbearable, I think, you know? -Yeah. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
What do you think the men made of women doing their roles? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:12 | |
Never had any nastiness at all. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
No, they were always delighted, I think, really. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
The only sort of nastiness occasionally from some... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
..of the rather aggressive women that... | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
..quite frankly, who... | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Well, no, the men couldn't be more pleased, I think, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-that we were there, you know? -So you drove cars, ambulances... | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
-And lorries. -Lorries. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Would you have loved to have driven a tank? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
-Yes! -If that was your option back then, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
would you have wanted to drive one of those? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
I don't know, I don't think I would've been that optimistic | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
in those days. I'd have been more likely to do it today. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
So lovely to meet you and, you know, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
from myself and I'm sure all of the women that are now in the military, | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
we're really proud of the work that you did. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
-Thank you. -I'm going to have to hug with that. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
Meeting Veronica was amazing. I mean, what a wonderful woman. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
92, full of passion and life, you know, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
said how much the military meant to her and, actually, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
she just wanted to play her part. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
We had a lot in common, you know? Both 17-and-a-bit when we joined, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
both drivers. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
I just hope that I'm going to look as good as her when I'm 92! | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Throughout their decades in service, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
women have always been pushing back the barriers | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
and taking on roles traditionally seen as the preserve of men. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Against all expectations, in 2002, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Pippa Tatershall became the first woman to pass | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
the notorious nine-week All Arms Commando Course, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
which is some feat. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Nearly half of all volunteers either drop out or are dismissed before | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
finishing the course. Run by the Royal Marines, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
the course prepares soldiers to fight as part of the elite | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
3 Commando Brigade, Britain's highly trained rapid-reaction force. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
I was actually in Kosovo, and Commando Logistic Regiment | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
were with me at the time on the same base, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
so I went and spoke to a few of the guys that I was training with | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
and said, "Do you think this is a realistic thing to do? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
"What do you reckon?" And I spoke to my boss back in the UK, as well, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
and asked her what her thoughts were and she said, "Yeah, go for it. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-"What's the worst that can happen?" -Yeah, exactly. You fail. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
No-one's passed it, so, you know, that's it. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
-How many were on the course in total? -There were three females. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
-Three females? -So I think there was about 90 guys. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
What about accommodation-wise? | 0:19:41 | 0:19:42 | |
The guys had the main part of the accommodation, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
which they were used to using, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
and there was a sort of side corridor that was a storage corridor | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
-that they'd... -Oh. -So exciting! | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
Yeah. But I didn't bother unpacking | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
because I just didn't think I was going to stay. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-You didn't even think...? -No! -Right, OK. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Literally, every day I'd sort of, you know, wake up and go, "OK, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
it's another day, see how I get on and see how I do," | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
and then I'd go to bed that night, think, "OK, managed today, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
"let's see how tomorrow goes." | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Every volunteer gets three opportunities at passing the course. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
But Pippa failed on her first two attempts. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Feeling pressured from above to drop out, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
she was unsure whether to carry on. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
I really didn't know if I was going to go back. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
I think the main driving factor behind it | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
-was support from the guys on the course. -Yeah. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
And the fact that they made me feel part of the team, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
they made me feel that it was right for me to be there... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
You didn't feel no discrimination whatsoever, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
they didn't make you feel inferior? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
No, not from the other people on the course, they were 100% behind me. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
So, what was the feeling when you actually did it, then? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
It didn't sink in, it really didn't sink in for a while. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Slightly disappointing afterwards was, obviously, the sort of... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
Lots of different people saying, "Ah, but she didn't do this or that, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
"or she must not have had anything in her backpack, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
"or she must have had something like this..." | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
They're just jealous. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
The only people that know that are the people that run the course | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and the other guys that were on the course. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
-Yeah. -There were no concessions and that's the great thing | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
about the All Arms Commando Course, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
is their standards have been their standards for years. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-Yeah. -They don't change them and they haven't changed them. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Despite proving that a woman could pass the commando course, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Pippa's achievement still wasn't enough to break down every barrier | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
for women serving in the Army. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
At that time, the law still prevented women from taking up | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
close-combat roles, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
so, instead, Pippa found herself serving with the Commando Brigade | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
support arm when she was deployed to Iraq in 2003. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
Do you think having women in close-combat roles | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
upsets the balance? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
Serving with 3 Commando Brigade afterwards and deploying to Iraq, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:55 | |
there were situations where it was evident that having | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
a female walk into the room, you know, created an atmosphere. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
-A change of dynamics. -It changed it | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
but I think that when push comes to shove on the ground, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
you're there to do a job, and the guys are focused on it, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
and that female's there to do a job as well. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
If the guys can't handle that and get on with it, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
then they're the ones that are not professional. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
So, Pippa, I have to say I'm actually in awe of you, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
listening to your story | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
and obviously being a fond ex-military person myself, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
I think your story's incredible. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Now women as tough and determined as Pippa | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
can serve in close-combat roles, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
but for those who came before, it simply wasn't an option. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
Women have always proved in hard times | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
we are equally as tough as the men, if not tougher. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
I would have liked to have been a pilot on the front line, yeah. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
I was always told that you have to be twice as good | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
to even be considered as an equal. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
I think there are more differences between men and men | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
than between men and women, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
and certainly that comes out in initial naval training. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
It's all about what's inside you, as an individual, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
and the heart and soul you put into training, and determination. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
But even before women were able to serve on the front line in battle, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
they were often in situations that put their lives at risk | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
during times of war. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Over one million civilian women were recruited to work | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
in munitions factories. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
One of the largest was Rotherwas, Hereford. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
To work in a place like this was very dangerous. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Women who hadn't handled machinery before | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
were now being put in charge | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
of kind of big, dangerous bits of kit. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
The explosive powder itself is very toxic. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
There were the risks of explosions. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
There was also the risk from enemy attack. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
And, of course, we know that this factory came under fire | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
with kind of a devastating effect. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
It was 27th July 1942, a night that factory workers Nancy Billings, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:07 | |
Amy Hicks and Nancy Evans remember vividly. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
We just all stood and looked at each other. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
But we never knew if it was genuine or not. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
And then someone ran in and he said, "Get out, get out, it's for real!" | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
And we just raced down the corridor. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
-Yeah. -And we'd just got outside and they said, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
"The air-raid shelters are locked." | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
And the next minute this plane came down | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
and he came down so low you could see the swastika. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
I could hear these girls screaming and I thought, "Oh, my God. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
"Whatever has happened?" | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
I don't know really how I wasn't killed, actually. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
But there was all fire and smoke and everything. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
I never want to see anything like that ever again. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
-No. -Oh, it was terrible. -I know, it was terrible. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
Over 20 people lost their lives that day and many were injured, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
a sacrifice that civilians made for the war. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
It was the munition women who kind of really helped to win the war. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
They couldn't have won the war without the women munition workers. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
Throughout history, civilians, alongside servicemen and women, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
have put their lives on the line for their country. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Even in times of peace, the military continually train for conflict. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
For Kelly, this meant putting all her effort into becoming | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
a PT instructor. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
I actually failed my first selection, which I was very, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
very disappointed and gutted. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
But I went back onto my selection and passed... | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
I say with flying colours but, you know, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
I worked hard for it because I really wanted to be a PTI, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
that was just my dream. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
Go. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
As Kelly transferred into the PT corps, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
fundamental changes were taking place in the British Army | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
that would have a profound effect | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
on thousands of serving women, like Kelly. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Over 40 years since the formation of the Women's Royal Army Corps, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
in 1991, it finally merged with the Army to create one force. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:26 | |
Back and pick the cone up. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
Do not knock the cones. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
But this meant there were fewer jobs in the new combined Army, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
and female physical instructors like Kelly | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
now had to endure selection all over again, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
in order to prove they could meet the same fitness standards as | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
their male counterparts. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
When we amalgamated, a lot of the women had to then change trades, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
completely change trades, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
and you can imagine that that was quite heartbreaking for quite a few, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
that their dream was to be a PTI, and a lot actually got out, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
had to leave the military. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Despite her disappointment, Kelly soon proved her mettle once again. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
When I did mine, there was around 30 of us. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
There was about 25 guys and five women. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
I was the only woman that passed and there were only two, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
three guys that passed, very, very hard, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
and there was no concession for women, which I think's right, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
but that meant it was pretty tough to reach the standards and I | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
just made sure I trained really hard to pass it because it was something | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
that I wanted to do and, also, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
I wanted to prove I was as good as the guys. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
As well as making her mark as a top PT instructor, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
she was one of the first to train men and women together. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
Any questions? First three, stand by. Go! | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
One of the occasions was that I have these potential | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
officers all come into the gym. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Now, I'm only, what, 5ft 3in? And they're sort of nearly 6ft. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
They came into the gym and were all just chatting, chatting, chatting, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and being really disrespectful and I was just like, "Right, OK, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
I've got to sort this one out." So I said, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
"You're going to go out for this run, a three-to-four-mile run, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
"I'm going to start at the back. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
"Whoever's behind me by the time I get back | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
"comes into PT every morning at five o'clock | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
"and every night after your duties, at seven o'clock." | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
It was the year that Linford Christie won the 100 metres gold | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
at the Olympic Games and in my head I thought, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
"Right, I'm Linford Christie," and I, literally, high knees, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
arms back and I beat this guy in on a sprint, so I beat all 30 of them, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
back in, they came in on their hands and knees, never said a word. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
I wanted to be a good PTI. Didn't matter that I was a woman. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
And there, to them, it didn't matter that I was a woman. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
And if anyone turned round to me and said, "You do it," | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
I wanted to be able to do it. And that was key. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
And I think that was key to my success as a PTI. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
It's time to find out how much of her training Kelly still remembers, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
and she's back in the trademark blue jacket of an Army PT instructor. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
-Morning, ladies. -ALL: -Morning, Staff. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Right, OK, good. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Listening for your names. When your name's called out, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
come to attention and shout "staff". | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
-Patak! -Staff! | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
-Gumpan! -Staff! | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
Corporal Hilson has arranged for Kelly to help out on a | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
training session. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
Recruit Percival, Staff. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:16 | |
-Nice... -Recruit Slate, Staff. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
-How are you? -Very well, thank you. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
Yeah? Good, thanks. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Turn and face your left. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Right, OK, make sure you swing your arms across the body, body front, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
-quick march. -RECRUITS: -Quick march! | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Unlike in Kelly's time, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
today, the men and women undergo identical training, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
with the aim that they'll then go on to serve side by side. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
You see the tree line over there? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
-RECRUITS: -Yes, Staff. -Go get me a leaf and bring it back. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Let's go. Off you go. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Don't be last! | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
Keep moving, good. Get rid of your leaf. Get rid of your leaf. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
Good effort. Show me your leaf. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
Keep your feet moving. Keep your feet moving. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Going to start off by jogging. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
Yourself off first. Peel off. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Everybody else follow on. Let's go. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
-Two! -I love this. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
I love being back. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
-No, it's really cool. -OK, stop. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
I think you've got to have a lot of guts as a young girl | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
coming in the military now. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
You know, perception of military, perception of females, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
would they come out butch? What do they look like? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
You know, these girls are breaking that mould, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
and I think that's brilliant. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
That's good, well done. Keep your bums down. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
Having been a physical training instructor for six years, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
Kelly can't help getting stuck in. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
On your feet, up. All right, let's go. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
-Back into normal jogging, off we go. -I can't get involved. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
I'll take over. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
I literally would take over. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
I get itchy feet. I want to start, like that. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
-Do we understand? -RECRUITS: -Yes, Staff! | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
One. Two. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
Three. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
Push out, girls, you're coming in too quick. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Push it out to the edges. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:08 | |
Get down, hurry up. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
Fitness targets aren't set by gender. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Instead, it depends on which job recruits go into | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
after their basic training. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
Straight into the normal jogging. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
OK, run to the fence, get me a leaf and come back. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
Hurry up. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:22 | |
Hurry up, ladies. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Don't be last. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
Today, there are over 200 roles open to everyone, from plumbers | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
to combat medics to military police and HR officers. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
In your own time...go! | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
Over the years, the Army's physical training for female recruits has | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
changed beyond recognition. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Left. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
That's it. Clear. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
During World War I, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
with the prevailing attitudes of the time and the role servicewomen | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
performed, fitness wasn't considered a priority. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
By World War II, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:02 | |
physical training was starting to become more important, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
but the demands of war meant most women were hurried to their units as | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
quickly as possible. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
During her own training, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
Kelly would have to tackle an assault course like the one here, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
so after watching from the sidelines, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
she's volunteered to do a demo for the new recruits | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
on how to scale a 10-foot wall. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:25 | |
It will be embarrassing if I don't get over this. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
Watching now for a perfect demonstration. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Hand round the knee. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
Go. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
-Come on. -Are there any questions? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
-RECRUITS: -No, Staff. -Let's go. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
As well as showing the women how to do it, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
Kelly's keen to find out more about the challenges they're facing | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
in basic training. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
How do you think you've improved? | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Fitness has improved massively. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
-Yeah? -We did a run Saturday, | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
and I knocked 20 seconds off my time already. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
-Brilliant. -What did you do before you joined the Army? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
-I was a stock controller. -What are you going into? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
-Royal Engineers. -Royal Engineers? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Go. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Up to the top, lean back on the rope. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Be either side. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
Kelly loved life as a PTI. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
But juggling her commitment to the Army | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
with competing as an international runner | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
would ultimately prove too much. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
I want to get to the top of the world and definitely to the Olympics | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
and I can't see me being able to maintain the job that I've had | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
and do my athletics to a great standard. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
So, in 1997, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:39 | |
Kelly had to make the difficult choice to quit the Army | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
and focus on her Olympic dream. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
When I finally decided I was going to leave the military, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
I was quite upset. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
I thought I was going to be in for my full service, 22 years, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
I thought maybe then I'd get a commission, who knows? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
And, you know, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
it was quite emotional, but I knew that I played my part and I knew | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
I'd achieved a dream of being in the Army | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
as a physical training instructor. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
While Kelly's never regretted the decision she made, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
she's delighted to be getting | 0:34:11 | 0:34:12 | |
another taste of military life today, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
especially when, over on the parade square, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
she's invited by the commanding officer | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
to congratulate the latest batch of recruits | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
who are about to pass out. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
ORDER IS SHOUTED | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
-Congratulations. -Thank you very much. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Well done. Does it feel good? | 0:34:31 | 0:34:32 | |
-Yes, it does. Thank you. -You must have done well to be standing here, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
-so congratulations. -Thank you very much, ma'am. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
And Private Bradshaw has won an impressive three awards. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
Best Recruit, Soldiers' Soldier, as voted by her peers, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
and Fittest Recruit. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
I'm quite overwhelmed at the moment so it might take me a little while | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
-to get used to it. -I kind of noticed that. It's brilliant. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
The Soldiers' Soldier one, that's quite important, isn't it? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
-Because your peers... -Yeah, it's really nice to get that award, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
because your training's nothing without the people | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
you go through training with, so, for me, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
-that was a really, really nice surprise... -Yeah. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
..to know that the girls feel that way | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
-is really, really a great feeling. -And where are you going off to? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I'm joining the Adjutant-General Corps | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
-as a Royal Military Policewoman. -Really well done. -Thank you. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
-It was so impressive. -Really appreciate that. Thank you. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
ORDER IS SHOUTED | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
I've loved today. I so wanted to get involved. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
You never know, I might join the reservists or the TA, you know. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
I want to come back. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
If Kelly did decide to rejoin, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
a whole new world of opportunities would be open to her, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
and the one close-combat role that she'd relish is driving a tank. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
Today, Kelly's meeting Corporals Townsend and Neil, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
who've both transferred into this training centre in Dorset | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
to help bed in the first generation of female tankies. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
It's no different to any of the male training, and that's vehicle-based, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
fitness-wise it's the same throughout. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
I think it's great. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
It's not a challenge, it's an opportunity for us, you know. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
As a young lady, young girl, before I even joined, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
I was always looking at the infantry | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
and when I was told at the careers office I couldn't join the infantry, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
I said, "What job can I do | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
"that's going to bring me closest to the front line?" | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
And they said medic. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
-And so you did that. -So I said, "Sign me up." | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
-Brilliant. -Yeah. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
Although Kelly's eager to take command of a real tank, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
she must first undertake a crash course | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
in a Challenger 2 simulator, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
all under the watchful eye of Sergeant Toby Popell. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
-Hi. You all right? -Hi. How are you doing? Nice to meet you. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
-Good. -Are you up for having a go? | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
-Yeah, absolutely. -Cool, let's get you on, then. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
While Kelly's getting just a brief taste of the simulator, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
prospective tankies would spend up to two weeks in this | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
before being let out into the real thing. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Oh, my God, I so love this! | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
Yeah, love it! | 0:36:56 | 0:36:57 | |
So much fun. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
As part of their training, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
soldiers also learn what to do | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
in the event of their vehicle flipping over. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
Before we start, can I just ask, do you suffer from motion sickness? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
I have been known to on fairground rides, yes. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
OK, that's not a problem. There are sick bags available for you, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
-should you feel the effects. -Oh, no. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
Let's do it. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:25 | |
This exercise couldn't be further from a fairground ride | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
and has a sobering purpose, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
given the number of deadly attacks on vehicles | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
in places like Afghanistan. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Brace, brace, brace. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
That was good. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
It's finally time for Kelly to realise her ambition | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
of commanding a Challenger 2 tank. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
I'm so excited about this bit. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
Now we've got sort of the first generation of women coming through | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
-and what do you think about that? -I think it's a good thing. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
We need to move with the times and everything else | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
and as long as they can do the job, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
-they're more than welcome to have a go. -OK. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
-Do you want to show me round? -Yeah, certainly. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
So you could be in these for a long time, right? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
Yeah. Yeah, you can be in these for up to about 10 to 12 hours. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
So what happens in terms of, I mean, practical stuff? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
-As in...? -Like going to the toilet, eating... | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
-I will show you the toilet in a minute. -..and sleeping, possibly. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
We do have a toilet on board. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
And we also have a kettle as well, which we can put our rations into. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
So exciting. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
This is a tank. This is a Challenger 2 tank. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
We're standing on top of it. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:37 | |
I mean, really? And just hats off to all the guys and then, eventually, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
girls that are going to be using these in those situations. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
So, explain this. So, the gunman's down there, he wants the toilet. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
-He'll have to stop. -Right. -Come over. -Yeah. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
-Do what he needs to do. -Even while you are sitting there. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
-And he'll hold the bag for you as well. -Seriously? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
You're... No! Come on. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
-That's how close you have to be. -Yeah. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
ENGINE RUMBLES | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
Guns live. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:13 | |
Gun front, mate. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
Every tank requires a four-person crew. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
Everyone good? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
A driver, a weapons-loader, a gunner and, today, Kelly as commander. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Having seen action most recently in Iraq, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
tank units also make up part of Britain's contribution | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
to the Nato force, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
currently keeping tabs on Russian activity on the Estonian border. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
KELLY SHRIEKS | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
The tank can reach a top speed of up to 31mph | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
and with a combat weight of a hefty 70 tonnes, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
it's not wise for any enemy infantry to get too close. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
The main armament on the tank | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
can hit a target from up to 5km away. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Kelly, lean forward. Yeah, if you lean forward, Kelly, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
-we'll get it to flop over. -Do you? | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
Agh! | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
At a cost of over £4 million per tank, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
any mistake from the crew could prove very expensive indeed. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
Of course, depending on the weather and terrain, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
conditions can get a little wet. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
Today is a training exercise, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
but it's given Kelly a valuable insight into how different | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
her Army career might have been | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
if the opportunity to command a tank had been open to | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
women like her back then. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
The tank also has the ability to generate its own smoke screen... | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
Come on! Go on, do it. Do it. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
..an invaluable asset that allows a vehicle to obscure its own movements | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
from the enemy when crossing the battlefield. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
It was really good. It was just... It's just fascinating. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
There's four people in there. If you've got one woman, three guys, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
in a confined area for a long time, I mean, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
you're always going to have a banter but, at the end of the day, I think, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
as we've discovered | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
through doing this programme, if you want to do the job, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
you go there to do the job well and that's what you think of | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
first and foremost, and your crew are your crew, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
it doesn't really matter if they're male or female. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
I can see a lot of women wanting to do that. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
It was a lot of fun, I have to say. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Having fulfilled her ambition to command a Challenger 2 tank, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
it's time for Kelly to reflect on her own time in the Army | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
and on what she's learned about the role of women in the military | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
over the past 100 years. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
It brought back a lot of great memories. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
What's come across out of everything that I've learnt | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
from talking to both male and female | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
is that they don't see the men and women. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
As long as the person does their job and does their job well, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
that's all that really matters. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
To think back to when I was 14 | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
and had this dream of wanting to be in the military, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
that I could join something that gave me a sense of purpose, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
gave me these skills and qualifications, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
allowed me to meet people from all different walks of life and then to | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
bond really great friendships from that experience, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
it's something that's never left me. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
I've found the whole experience just amazing. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 |