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It's 100 years since the first pioneering women | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
joined the British Armed Forces. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Today, women serve alongside men, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
together in combat on the front line. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
If you can do it and you want to do it, you should be able to. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
To see how much things have changed... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
-Love it! -How do I look? | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
..five well-known faces revisit either their own... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Morning, ma'am. I'm the captain of the HMS Puncher. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
You called me ma'am, how sweet. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
..or a family member's military past. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
They just got stuck in. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
It was exciting. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Always intense. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
From defending land... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
-..sea... -I don't want to go that way. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
..and air, these are the extraordinary stories | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
of a century of women at war. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Go! | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
Today, over 15,000 women serve in the Armed Forces, and their careers | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
can be the same as those of the men they work alongside. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
It's a far cry from the opportunities open to the women | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
who first had the chance to formally serve their country | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
with the creation of the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps in 1917. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
So now, five well-known faces with a link to the forces | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
are learning about the contribution women have played | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
in the years since then... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Morning, Sav! | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
..and understand better how that's proved crucial to Britain's | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
military successes both at home and abroad. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-March! -Quick march! | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
June Brown gets hands-on with a ship to see how women's roles | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
in the Royal Navy have changed since her own days as a Wren. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Am I all right steering over here? | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Yeah, if you turn the wheel round to the right, yeah. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
Do a U-turn! | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
Pam Ayres, who once served with the Women's Royal Air Force, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
is brought up to date by those now defending our skies, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
and takes to the air herself. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
Nicky Campbell discovers more about his mother's work | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
as a radar operator... | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
-It's an impressive system for the 1940s. -It was that. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
..and watches as she finally receives recognition | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
for her role fighting Nazis in World War II. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
I'm delighted. I never thought I'd ever see it. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Edward Fox is in awe of a woman who built the plane that won the war - | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
a Lancaster bomber. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
-It's an extraordinary sight, isn't it? -It is, it's so big. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-It's so big. -Yes. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
And Dame Kelly Holmes, a former army personal training instructor, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
joins the latest army recruits training for action. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
I think if a guy can do it, then a girl can do it too. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
I'd be with you on that, I have to say. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Oh, wonderful. You are wonderful! | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
EASTENDERS THEME PLAYS | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
She's one of our best-loved screen actors. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
You've got to see a doctor. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
I mean, we can't do no more on our own. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
-No! -You've got to, Nick. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Yet over 70 years ago, June Brown took on a very different role, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
as a recruit in the Women's Royal Naval Service | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
during the Second World War. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
I knew I'd be called up when I was 18, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
so I thought to myself, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
"Well, if I volunteer, you know, then I can choose | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
"which service I go to." | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
I didn't fancy the uniform of the WAAF or ATA because it wouldn't have | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
suited my complexion, and anyway, the Wrens, well, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
that was the senior service, you see? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Here is a rather lovely poster of the Wren. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
In fact, has she got a beret on? | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
Because that's what I had. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
But, you see, really rather smart we were, weren't we? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
With a different salute - | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
that salute, not your hand turned round like the army. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
Quite special, we were. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
And June isn't the only woman who felt this way when signing up. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
The job we were doing, which definitely helped | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
the defence of the country, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
did make us feel we were trailblazers, in a way. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
You know, we were very keen to be able to take action and win the war. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:39 | |
I feel lucky to have lived through that, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
and I'm always so, so glad that I decided to do it, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
because I wouldn't have been called up, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
the job I was doing, so I've always been pleased that I did. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
It was a marvellous experience for me, wonderful. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
The best thing that ever happened. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
To be away and to mix with other girls and be independent, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
and to give orders! | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
As a corporal, I was a bit laid-back, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
but we got through it anyway. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
The wartime atmosphere was that you did your bit, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
if you see what I mean? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
And that's what you went in to do, yes. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Woman first joined the forces following massive troop losses | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
on the Western Front during World War I. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
The War Office set up female-only branches of the army, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
All were disbanded when the war was over, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
but were quickly re-established after the start of World War II. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
And by the time June became a uniform recruit in the 1940s, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Wrens worked in nearly 200 different roles. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
After her basic training, June became a cinema operator, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
playing training videos to troops about to embark on operations. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
Navy veteran Eddie Gaines watched the kind of films that June showed | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
during the war. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
-FILM FOOTAGE: -All vehicles are waterproofed | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
and these lorries should be able to drive through | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
two or three feet of water. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Let's get it sort of... Where's it gone? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
He joined up aged 18 and worked on landing vessels used to take troops | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
ashore during battle, seeing action in Normandy and in the Far East. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
I showed these films to train the sailors. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
-Guys like me. -Yes. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
So, things like how to survive at sea, how to survive in the jungle. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
I used to sit in my little box with a little window and show | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
training films like that, and then they'd pass me through their tobacco | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
and their papers and I'd make them ticklers. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
-Ticklers! -Yeah, roll-ups, you see? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
So I never watched the films, I was too busy making them cigarettes. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Where did you go after your training? | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I went to HMS Armadillo, which was up in Scotland. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
-Near Dunoon. -Yes, near Dunoon. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
I did training in Dunoon. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-Did you? -In Combined Operations, yeah. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
I used to go dancing in Dunoon. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
I think I danced with you once. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
-You might have done! -Yeah. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
What kind of time did you have there? Did you enjoy it? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
I feel very guilty about it because other people had a very nasty time | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
-in the war. -Well, no, everybody... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
You had to make, you had to do what you had to at the time, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
but it didn't mean to say you've got to be miserable. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Eddie and June are here to watch a rare surviving example | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
of the kind of World War II training film June used to show. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
-FILM FOOTAGE: -The coastline is divided into sectors on the map. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
These are usually no more than 3,000 yards in length. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Suitable sectors are subdivided... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
But the films could never fully convey the chaos and horror | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
of a genuine war scenario, as Eddie was to witness | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
during the 1944 D-Day landings. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
And as you went out of the harbour, you'd never see another sea like it, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
a great armada was coming up the Channel, all heading east. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
-Yeah. -There, there was a five-mile wide channel | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
that had been swept by minesweepers. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-Ah, yes. -And we had to go to the American beach of Omaha Beach. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:14 | |
Tasked with getting American troops onto Omaha Beach, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Eddie witnessed first-hand the terrible losses | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
that took place there. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
The idea then was to remove the beach obstacles. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
Most of the killing went on on the beach there. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
-A killing zone. -A killing zone. -Yes. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
We would drop the ramp on bodies. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
It was terrible. In fact, I... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
At the time, I always used to think that... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
..my whole life was a bonus because I got away with it. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
I was thinking, Eddie, was the part I played in it as a cine op | 0:08:57 | 0:09:04 | |
of any value, do you think? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
It was fantastic. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
Jobs like that, like you did, released men. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
-Yes. -Like myself, to go and... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
-Yeah, that was our function, really... -Yes. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
..to take the place of the men so they could fight. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
And it was done well. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
All the things that you and a great host of ladies... | 0:09:22 | 0:09:28 | |
They all came in and did all their effort. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
It was nothing compared with what you did. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
Every man appreciated the big effort that the women made. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:41 | |
Talking to Eddie has made me feel quite humble, in a way. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
I'm glad that we were able to support them, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
but what we sent them out to was not very pleasant. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
It has affected me quite a lot, quite honestly. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
I watched that film and, oh, it seemed so simple, didn't it? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
But it doesn't happen like that. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Plans go awry. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
The service and support of the Wrens proved vital over the course of | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
World War II, and four years later the Wrens were made a permanent part | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
of the Navy. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
By 1990, women were serving alongside men at sea, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
and three years the later the Wrens disbanded | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
and merged with the Royal Navy. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Today, women are a vital part of ships' companies. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
And to see this modern force first-hand, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
June's been invited aboard HMS Mersey, moored on the Thames. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
She wants to compare her wartime experiences with those of women | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
serving in the Royal Navy today, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and she's anticipating a very different landscape. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
It's very interesting to me what is happening in the services now, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:12 | |
because the jobs are going to be a great deal different | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
from the ones we did. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
So it will be very interesting to see how it's changed, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
not that I like change! | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
So there you go, if you come in here, this is my cabin. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-Oh, there's double bunks... -Yeah. -..so you can have a visitor. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-So on... -And quite a spacious loo and shower. -And a shower as well. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
So on Mersey, you'll get the maximum of two people per cabin, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
so you'll just have one cabin mate throughout your time on board. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Sub-lieutenant Howes is one of four women | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
on the mixed crew of this offshore patrol vessel. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
So this is the bridge. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
This is where, day to day, we navigate the ship from. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
For me, I'm in the watch rotation, so I do bridge watches. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
-Yeah. -So in 24 hours, I'll be on the bridge for eight hours. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
-Are there many romances on board? -No, definitely not. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
There, you see, that's amazing. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
But it's almost as if you treat them as chaps | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
and they treat you as chaps. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Just colleagues, really, we all treat each other, you know... | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
I don't mind if I'm on watch with a male officer or a female officer, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
you know, it's just work at the end of the day, really. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
The women serving in today's Royal Navy | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
can take up every role on board ship. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
-What's this? -This is our 20-mil gun. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
They'll fit their shoulders in there. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Shoulders, both shoulders? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Yeah, then you put your hands on there, just on there. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
What happens with this hand? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
That's your squeeze. That will shoot it, it's the trigger. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
-Oh, it's a very complicated gun, isn't it? -I know. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
And it's a very big gun. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Now, June is about to get a taste of what current servicewomen can do, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
as she's invited to steer a naval vessel along the Thames. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
Morning, ma'am. I'm Oliver Rowan, I'm the captain of HMS Puncher. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
You called me ma'am, how sweet. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:00 | |
-I'd rather be a ma'am... -Ma'am, yes. -..then I'd be the Queen! | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
That is very true. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Captain Rowan explains to June just how much things | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
have now changed. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Why are we swaying? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
Oh, of course, we're on a boat. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
We've currently got five female captains of the ships, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
who do exactly the same jobs as us, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
and obviously in today's Navy | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
they're pushing through and we've got | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
commanders of all sorts of ships, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
all different backgrounds and experiences. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
So when you first were in the Navy, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
it was a completely different environment. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
-Now we work side by side. -Yes. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
73 years after she left the Wrens, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
the controls are now firmly in June's hands. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
So we've got the engines just here, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
-where we can control both of the engines. -Yeah. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
So we've got the positions of slow astern and slow ahead. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
So you can see now the ship's head is turning slowly. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
So we'll just let us come left of the buoys. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Am I all right steering over here? | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
-Yeah, that's absolutely fine. -I don't want to go that way. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
If you turn the wheel round to the right, yeah, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
just keep coming further round. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
Once we get to the end, we'll turn all the way round. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
-Right. -Yeah. -Do a U-turn! | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
When I started this programme, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
I had a certain prejudice against the Navy being one, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
that women and men were just the Navy. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
I just couldn't see that it could happen. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
I suppose being offered a drive of this patrol boat | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
made me realise that I would have been perfectly capable | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
of doing this when I was young. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
But close-combat roles were out of the question for women | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
in the military until 2016, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
even if the women who served before then | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
would have considered themselves more than capable. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
Women have always proved in hard times | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
we are equally as tough as the men, if not tougher. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
I would have liked to have been a pilot on the front line, yeah. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
I was always told that, you know, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
you have to be twice as good to even be considered as an equal. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
It's all about what's inside you | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
as an individual and the heart and soul | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
you put into training and determination. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Today, approximately 15,000 women choose to serve in the Armed Forces, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
but during wartime the numbers swelled, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
not simply because of volunteers, but thanks to conscription. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Many women, like June, chose to join the war effort | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
before receiving the official call. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
And that the same time June chose to join the Wrens, Sheila Campbell, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
mother of broadcaster Nicky Campbell, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
couldn't wait to sign up to the Women's Auxiliary Air Force, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
or WAAF. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
-Much to my parents' fury. -Really? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
They were furious, because I was reserved | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
and I should have finished my degree. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
They went to their lawyer and tried to get me out of my volunteering | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
for the WAAF and joining up | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
but they couldn't, so I travelled off to the WAAF. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Did you feel that you were part of a cause, defending the country, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-helping the effort against Hitler? -Yes, definitely. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
And the excitement of it all and being with a group of others. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
It was exciting, always exciting, always intense, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
and one played hard in between. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
When you were off duty, you went to dances, you went here and there, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
you went out drinking. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
Nicky is about to find out about his mother's role as a radar operator | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
in the WAAF, and is starting with a diary kept at the time. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
What was great, Mum gave me this book | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
which was a record of where she was and what she was doing | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
before the war, during the war and beyond, which was kept, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
unbeknownst to her, by her mother. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
And so this is actually, from a family point of view, invaluable. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:08 | |
So where was she, 31st of May 1944? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
"Posted to Beachy Head, then Sussex." | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
"D-Day, the sixth of June..." There it is written down there. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
Screaming from the page, leaping out, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
"D-Day, sixth of June." | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
Sheila was on duty in the operations room | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
on the day of this decisive Allied invasion. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
I shall never forget it. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
I mean, one was aware of what one was doing, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
you know, just bombing a little ahead of the troops | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
and praying that you got your measurements right | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and that the troops weren't going to be hit by you. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
-ARCHIVE FOOTAGE: -Bombing behind the lines and supplying cover | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
for our advancing armies are only an indication | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
of the many jobs assigned to the air forces. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
To better understand the part his mother played in the war, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
Nicky's on his way to a radar museum. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
Sheila's primary role was tracking enemy aircraft | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
entering British airspace. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Their intelligence was used to sound warnings | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
and to scramble defensive planes. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
For WAAFs like Sheila, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
the threat of attack from a German bombing raid was very real. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
730 members of the WAAFs were killed during the war by German bombs. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
George Taylor is a volunteer at the museum | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
and used to work as a radar operator during the Cold War. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
This is an amazing bit of technology, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
and is this what my mother would have been looking at? | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
-Yes, correct, here on the eye scope. -Yeah. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
So when a raid's coming in, what would the atmosphere | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
have been like in a place like this? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
Well, they would just say, "Another raid coming in, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
"strength so-and-so, height so-and-so." | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
And that would be it, and then you'd concentrate on the next one. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
-Professional? -It's no good getting panicky. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
This is a scenario that people will recognise from the movies, I think. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:07 | |
-Yeah. -So how did it exactly work? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
You'd have about 15 WAAFs round a table like this and they'd all be | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
getting information in from different radar stations | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and plotting it on this table. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
So Mum is gathering the data, and then the data is being passed | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
-over here, which informs this process? -Yeah. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
-ARCHIVE FOOTAGE: -When next you see a plane in the sky, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
think of these people down in the operations room. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
They can see it too, right here on these plotting tables. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
These tracers, they would be moving three or four times a minute. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
-Do I move these arrows? -You move these arrows. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
-Like that? -Like that, that's right. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
It's an impressive system for the 1940s. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
It was that. Yeah, yeah, I can just remember it. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
The work of the aerial intelligence teams provided key turning points | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
in both world wars. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
As well as defending British skies, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
their job was also to plan attacks on the enemy. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Assisting the so-called Spies in the Sky, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
they were able to research locations, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
spot targets and track enemy movements. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
But, as Nicky's mum Sheila recalls, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
some of their work came at great human cost. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
Winds changed, and perhaps our accuracy | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
and our measurements wasn't as perfect. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
In February 1945, during the bombing of the German city of Dresden, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
over 25,000 civilians died. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
And the thousand bomber raids, they just flattened everything. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
What did you think about that, people dying? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
That's the thing. The fact that people were involved | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
or lived in some of the places we were bombing, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
we didn't think about it. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
-Didn't you? -No. -You never discussed it? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
It would have been difficult to carry on, in a way. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
You know, to do the job... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
You couldn't entertain the thought, no? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
When did you start thinking about that? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Not till way after the war. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
It's all such a long time ago. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
She has spoken about her mixed feelings about what... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
she was doing ultimately led to, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
and the disconnect | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
between having a board in front of you or a radar screen | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
in front of you, and people being incinerated. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
There's huge controversy about some of the bombing | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
that we did in Germany, and I think any right-minded person | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
can understand both sides of the argument. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
How much was necessary, how much was proportionate, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
how much was stuff that happens in war? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Like many people who serve their country through war, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Sheila Campbell has mixed feelings about some of the things | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
she was tasked with. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
But she had a job to do serving her country, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
and her role in the WAAF and the Allied victory | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
has always been a source of great pride and personal satisfaction. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Group Captain Gus Wells has invited the Campbell family | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
to the RAF Museum in Hendon, to thank Sheila for the contribution. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-Hi. -Hello, family. Hello, how are you? -Hi! | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
And it's his privilege to invest Shelia | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
with the war medal she never received, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
in recognition of the service to the WAAF during World War II. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
On behalf of the Royal Air Force, it's a pleasure, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
and actually a privilege as well, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
to be able to present you with this long overdue 1939-45 medal. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
The work that you and your contemporaries did | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
throughout the war is very much part of our heritage | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and it guides what we do today, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
so you really are an inspiration to us all. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
-Oh, my goodness! -THEY CHEER | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
At last! | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
How lovely. Thank you so much. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
That's all right, it's all our pleasure, it really is. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Wonderful, I'm delighted. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
I never thought I'd ever see it. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
And no-one could be more proud than Sheila's granddaughter Isla. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
She was such a pioneer for what she did in the war. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
Even though I've studied it at school, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
I didn't realise how much they really affected the war effort, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
and, you know, without them it could have been a different story. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
She's really inspirational. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Sheila is delighted to have her family by her side | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
as her contribution to the war effort is recognised. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
But while she's earned her place in history, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
she's not alone in facing opposition from her parents when joining up. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
My father was in the First World War and he understood perfectly | 0:24:18 | 0:24:24 | |
why I wanted to join up. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
My father was absolutely livid. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
I won't tell you what he said, but he was very angry. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
It took him a while to speak to me after that. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
They didn't want me to be a balloon operator, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
because they thought that was... | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
That you needed muscles, and they didn't want their daughter | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
with big muscles. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
I won't tell you exactly what my father said, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
because it was probably quite rude. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
But the others were fine, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
because my stepmother was in the WAAF | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
during the Second World War as well. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Initially my parents were a little bit concerned, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
but fully supportive of all the way through my career. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
I wouldn't have been where I am now if it wasn't for their support. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Throughout the 100 years of women's service, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
the role of the military has changed | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
according to the demands of the conflicts it's faced. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
In 1965, 20 years after the end of World War II, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
poet Pam Ayres joined a very different air force | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
from the one in which Sheila Campbell served. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
One day I saw an advert for the Women's Royal Air Force, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
and it was very persuasive. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
And it said, you know, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
"Life of excitement, join the Women's Royal Air Force." | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
I hoped for cheap travel... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
Well, free travel, let's not mince words. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
And I hoped to see the world and meet different people | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
and break out and do the things that young people wanted to do. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
During her service, Pam also discovered a love of performing | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
that eventually made her into | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
a household name in the 1970s. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
I'm like a Cheshire cat, I'm good with a grin. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
But before that career blossomed, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
Pam worked in aerial intelligence, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
analysing the photography taken by RAF surveillance planes. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
You would have to identify where it was and the scale of it. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
That was very hard. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
Pam was what's known as a plotter, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
first in the UK and later in Singapore and Germany. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
So she's on their way to RAF Marham in Norfolk to see how the role | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
she didn't always relish has changed. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
I'm not particularly looking forward to seeing all that equipment again, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
and all that stuff that made me so miserable. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
I dare say, you know, it will be much more modern now, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
but oh, God, I hated it. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Marham is home to the RAF's Tornado GR4 Force, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
and one of the intelligence, surveillance | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
and reconnaissance wings. | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
Pam's meeting two of almost 5,000 women serving in the RAF today, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
each one tasked with a vital defence role. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
As she did, these analysts have signed the Official Secrets Act, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
so access to their work is strictly limited. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Now, this all looks a little more sophisticated | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
than the kind of equipment I was dealing with in the '60s | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
when I had a pen and a bottle of etching ink | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
and a sheet of acetate, basically. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
If I'd only had all this stuff. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
Now, what's this? What are these for? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
They look really serious. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
They will turn the imagery 3-D, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
so you'll be able to see it in stereo. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
-Can I put these on? Does it matter which ones? -No. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
OK. Right. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
Oh, wow, look at this! | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:27:47 | 0:27:48 | |
You see, you feel as though you're in an aircraft. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
You feel as though you're looking down out of an aircraft vertically, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
and the tops of the trees seem so close, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
and the aircraft seem so far away. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
No, I mean, this is also much more sophisticated | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
than the work I was doing. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
I was just trying to record what photography we had, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
whereas you're looking to see | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
what's in it, aren't you? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
We're looking at an airfield here, and we could get asked a number | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
of questions as to whether the airfield's serviceable, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
as to what aircraft are at the airfield. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
And then we would just look around... | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
..the airfield to see if there was anything of note. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Today, the RAF are supporting missions in the Middle East, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
and in recent years, it's provided aerial surveillance | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
This is so interesting for me, really. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
There's something tremendously optimistic about it, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
because I'm enjoying looking at this. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
I just like wearing glasses because I feel cool. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
This year, the RAF became the first branch of the military | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
to open every single role to all those serving. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
100 years ago, when women first joined, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
it was a very different picture. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Yet every single servicewoman who played a part | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
in the First and Second World Wars | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
paved the way for the next generation, like Pam. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Especially pioneers like Joy Lofthouse. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
She was one of only 166 females in non-combat flying roles | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
during the war. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
-I'm so pleased to meet you. -It should be the other way about. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
-Pleased to meet you. -No, not at all! | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
I feel a complete fraud, because I was in the air force | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
as an air photography plotter, but you were the real McCoy. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
You were a pilot. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
Throughout the war, women in the WAAF were restricted | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
from aircraft duty. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
It was deemed unacceptable by the RAF. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
But that changed, thanks in part to the stand | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
commercial pilot Pauline Gower made | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
when she formed the Air Transport Auxiliary. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Joy was one of those women for whom Pauline paved the way. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
We did all the non-operational flying to allow the Air Force | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
to do the operational work. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
I flew all single-seater fighters, and what they called light twins. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
I wasn't allowed to fly anything fast | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
like a Mosquito or anything. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
But what you call light twins, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
which is an Oxford and an Anson and things like that. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
What was your favourite aircraft to fly? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Oh, the Spit, obviously. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
It was still in everyone's mind as having won the Battle of Britain. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Were they held to fly? Are the controls difficult? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
You only have to know the take-off speed and the landing speed, really. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
Really? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
You seem very modest about what you did, Joy. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
I'm sure most people would think you were absolutely heroic to go up | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
and deliver these aircraft on your own, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:00 | |
but you seem quite modest and self-effacing about it. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
Well, all women did something, and a lot of the women, you know, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
who were in the Battle of Britain, they got bombed and everything. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
So it was dangerous just to be around then. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
-I suppose so. -So it didn't really matter if one was in | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
a more or less dangerous job. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
And you were young, nothing was ever going to happen to you. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
-No, I know. You feel invincible. -Nothing was going to happen. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
Absolutely. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
Joy, do you think World War II gave opportunities to women | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
that they wouldn't otherwise have had? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
It was the first foot in the door, if you like. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Yeah, I think it probably was. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
It was probably the first foot in the door. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
-Otherwise, it was back to the kitchen sink, you know? -Yeah. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
Alongside their male colleagues, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
the Air Transport Auxiliary Service delivered over 300,000 planes | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
to airfields across the country. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
What she did in the '40s, and what women like her did, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
was to take on these ground-breaking jobs, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
and that began the process whereby today | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
all those things are now open to modern women, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
and I think you can trace it back to women like Joy | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
in her Spitfire. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
The war ended, and with it the ATA became redundant and was disbanded. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
After the war, some woman did get to fly as volunteers for the WRAF, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
but it wasn't until 1989 that the opportunity | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
to fly military aircraft was reopened to women. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
And after 1994, when the WRAF merged with the RAF, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
another milestone was soon reached. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
This morning, the service's first woman trained to fly combat missions | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
took to the air. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
As part of 617 Dambusters Squadron, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Flight Lieutenant Jo Salter set off from RAF Lossiemouth in a Tornado. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
I think it's very important that children | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
who are going through school, especially girls, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
have the opportunity to see that everything is open | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
in this day and age. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
Women like this flight lieutenant have taken up that call to arms. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Qualifying as a pilot in March, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
she is now undergoing training that will enable her | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
to offer front-line support in the Puma helicopter. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
What is it that attracts you? | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Why did you want to fly that particular aircraft? | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
I love flying helicopters, so I'd always wanted to go... | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Always wanted to end up flying helicopters. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
I like that you're flying low level a lot of the time. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
So I like that you're in amongst it | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
and you're doing something that's very involved | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
with people on the ground. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
It's such a contrast. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
I was in the Women's Royal Air Force from '65 to '69, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
and the idea of a female pilot was far off into the future. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
Yeah, it's still unusual. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
But there are no barriers to it, so I think if you want to do it, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
you can do it, and I think that's how it should be. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
-Indeed, yeah. -So rather than saying, you know, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
you have to have half women and half men, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
and kind of, sort of, forcing it, I just think if you can do it | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
-and you want to do it, you should be able to. -Yeah. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
And I'm so glad it's changed from how it was when you... | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
-Yes, I know, I'm glad, too that... -If you just give the opportunity... | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
-..these things are open to everybody who really... -Absolutely. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
..is prepared to devote themselves to getting into it - | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
that you would be able to succeed in it. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
To get a chance to experience a job that was never on offer | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
during her time in the service, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Pam has been asked to join the Puma team as they practice landing | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
in confined spaces. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
How do I look? | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Many women like Pam would say their military service, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
whether in the Navy, Army or the RAF, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
led to extraordinary personal experiences | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
which have shaped their entire lives. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
I joined to travel because travel was something which, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
when I was growing up, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
you only did if you were rich and things like that. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
So it was more for adventure. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
It was in my mind to leave home. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
I just wanted to get away, that's all, and do something. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
So I went and signed on virtually the day I was 17 and a half. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:52 | |
You felt a bit like a pioneer, because before that, they... | 0:35:52 | 0:35:58 | |
They didn't accept women. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
But there were thousands of us at that particular time. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
The contribution of women extends beyond those who signed up to serve. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
During World War II, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
women were also conscripted to work in other roles on the home front, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
as air raid wardens, bus drivers, nurses, and munitions workers. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
As a child of the war, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
it was something that actor Edward Fox witnessed first-hand. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
The conditions that women lived under during the war | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
is somewhat forgotten. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
But of course it was crucial, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
because they just got stuck into whatever needed doing. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
And that was a commitment that women made | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
just as strongly for what they could do in a wartime situation | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
as men, who as men would say, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
"We go to defend our country and to fight an enemy." | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Edward's aunt Mary was one of millions of women | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
who enthusiastically took up the call to do their bit. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
Mary was as tough as a man. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
She was a bit like a very delicate, strict colonel. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
But she would have no nonsense with anything. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
She'd do anything. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
Mary left London for rural Cornwall, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
where women were needed in their thousands to help work the land. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
Mary, being of the nature that she was, she embraced hard work. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
Embraced anything that she could do to contribute to, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:36 | |
again, the war effort. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
And farming, of course, was vitally important, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
because the question of whether the country would have been able | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
to provide for itself with its own producing was crucial. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
Mary died five years ago, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
so to fully understand the contribution she made, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Edward's travelling to North Yorkshire | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
to meet ex-Land Girl Iris Newbold. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Like Mary, Iris gave up the relative comforts of the city in Hull | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
for the tougher outdoor life of the country. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Gosh. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
You could be 25 years old. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
-Oh, bless! -You're beautiful! | 0:38:17 | 0:38:18 | |
-It's not bad for 92, is it? -Wonderful. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
You lived in this house during the war, did you? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
-Oh, yes. -Did you? -Yeah. -A lovely house to live in, too. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
-It was. -A bit basic? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
Very - no gas, no electricity, no water. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
For two years, I just stayed here, living in the cottage, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
and working within a 12-mile radius of this village. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
When you first came to live here, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
-how old were you? -18. -18! -Yes! | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
At its peak in 1943, 80,000 women in the Land Army worked on the fields, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:58 | |
and this is one of the farms on which Iris toiled. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
When you first arrived, you were in very foreign land for you, really. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:06 | |
-Very much so. -And everything that was going on | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
-will have been strange. -Yes. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
I can remember feeling bewildered. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Gosh, you know, I don't know... | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
I knew I was up to the job, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
but whether I could do it well enough for them... | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Because I'd had a weekend at an instruction farm, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
and that was all the training I ever got. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
Edward is meeting farming historian Mike Tyler to find out more about | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
the Land Girls and just how vital their contribution was. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
The Land Army was very, very effective in mobilising volunteers, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
bringing people, young girls, out. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
And then saying, "Right, where do these girls need to go? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
"Where can they make the biggest impact?" | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
My Aunt Mary was farming from that time, absolutely. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:56 | |
But I remember one of the things she said was, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
"We used to plough right up to the edge of the cliff." | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
-Yep. -To use every foot of land that they could. -Yes. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:08 | |
If that million and a half acres of land | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
hadn't come back into production, if those pairs of hands | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
that the Land Girls provided hadn't been in, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
the food would not have been on the plates, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
and you would have quite seriously been looking at... | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
-Starvation. -..starvation. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Iris's story, although she's younger than my Aunt Mary, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
but they were doing exactly the same work together in the war. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
And although they will have made light of it then, actually, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
without the work of the Women's Land Army and the women's war effort, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:47 | |
there would have been a serious depletion in food production | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
for the nation. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
Erm... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
That's a remembrance worth having. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
Although during World War I and World War II, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
women weren't mobilised to fight on the front line, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
over one and a half million were conscripted | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
into another vital industry, armaments. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
Keeping up a supply of weapons and aircraft production | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
became vitally important. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
Edward's arrived at the Lincolnshire Aviation Centre | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
to meet 92-year-old Joan Ray. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
During the war, she worked in a factory in Doncaster, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
riveting side panels for the Lancaster bombers. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
-It's an extraordinary sight, isn't it? -It is, it's so big. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
-It's so big. -Yes. -That's a very good photograph of girls working, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
because that could have been you, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
couldn't it, really? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
When you were doing the riveting, what did it entail, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
and how did you do it? | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
Well, we had to go and pick these panels up and put them on a stand. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
-Yep. -And then you had to drill the holes in the panels, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
and then there was two of you, one put the rivets in, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
and at the other side of the panel, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
the other lady would be knocking them down. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
-Over 12 hours in a day, too? -Some days, yes. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
Did you feel that the work you were doing for the war effort | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
was vitally important? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Yeah, because we knew how serious it was, what job we were doing, yes. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
And that everything that you and all the girls did | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
was contributing in its own way to winning the war. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
That was the feeling, wasn't it? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
Yes, of course. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
To show Joan just how vital her contribution was, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
Edward has brought her to meet Rusty, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
a World War II pilot who flew one of the Lancaster planes | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
she helped to build. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
I were a riveter on... | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Were you riveting, were you? That's amazing. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
A lot of us were only young girls, 17 and a half. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
-Oh, I was an old man. I was 20! -Oh, was you! | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
The general public these days have no idea | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
what went on in getting these aircraft built | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
and getting these aircraft ready. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
If it wasn't for people like you doing the jobs that you did, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
-and so reliably, we as aircrew couldn't have flown. -No. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
So, you know, your job was really just as vital as anybody else's. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
Realising just what you did for us flying - | 0:43:21 | 0:43:26 | |
people, like, flying, not me personally - | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
there's a little something which might... | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
You may have dozens of these, but I hope you perhaps like it. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
-It's... -It's lovely, thank you. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
That's lovely. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
The Lancaster bombers that women like Joan carefully assembled | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
on the factory floor took on a life of their own once in the skies. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
And Rusty wants to show Edward what being on board one was like. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
Those little windows that you could look into the bomb doors... | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
-Yes. -..and see if your bombs had fallen. -Yeah. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
One thing you don't get is that sort of... | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
It's very difficult to put over what it was like. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
As a crew on operations, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
you've got about, what, 60% normal flying, about 40% panic. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:17 | |
And some raids it was a lot like you were | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
in high adrenaline rate all the time. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
Of the 125 crew who flew in Bomber Command during the war, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
55,000 were killed, many of them in Lancasters. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
When you first started on Operations, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
you realised people were killed, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
and you said "poor souls" and that sort of thing. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
But later on, it happened so often, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
you just accepted the fact that people were going to be killed. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
-Yeah. -And you didn't expect to live yourself. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
-No. -I was giving a talk to a school one day, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
and one of the little girls said, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
"How many dead bodies did you see?" | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
-Well, we didn't see dead bodies. -No. -All we saw were empty beds. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
It's been a completely fascinating day being here, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
but meeting Joan - | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
17 and a half years of age she was on an assembly line, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
and Rusty, I mean, talking to Rusty is just wonderful. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:19 | |
But as he also was saying, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
the aircrews would never have had aeroplanes to fly | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
unless they'd been made. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
And they were put together panel by panel, rivet by rivet, | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
mostly by women, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
or in a large majority by women, because it was very important | 0:45:34 | 0:45:39 | |
and very crucial to the war effort, and to winning the war. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
So I've had a wonderful day. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
Wonderful day. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
I mean, two wonderful people. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
Whether as Land Girls working in factories like Joan, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
or in the forces, | 0:45:57 | 0:45:58 | |
every one of the women who served in the war | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
paved the way for today's generation of women, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
inspiring them to take on more active roles in the military. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
I think it's amazing what they did | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
and to see where we've come now | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
and to look back at that. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
I'm really proud to be able to do the job that I do | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
because of what they did for us. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
I think they were very courageous at a time where society maybe wasn't | 0:46:24 | 0:46:30 | |
fully supportive of them in that kind of role. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
I can't imagine trying to forge my way as one of the first | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
pioneering females, you know, into the military | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
because I imagine it must've been really difficult. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
And because of them, we're here now and we've got mixed forces. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
It's just great, to be honest. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
They've paved the way to where we are now, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
and I'm sort of very proud to be serving | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
in their footsteps, really. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Kelly Holmes bringing it home for Britain. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
Can she get there? One more... | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Come on, Kelly Holmes! | 0:47:05 | 0:47:06 | |
It's gold! Kelly's won the gold for Great Britain. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
Another woman who encapsulates the grit and determination needed | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
to face the realities of a life in the Armed Forces | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
is Olympian Dame Kelly Holmes. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
Before she became one of Britain's greatest ever sporting heroes, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
Kelly had a career with the Women's Royal Army Corps. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
I felt that by going in the military | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
it had given me a bit of identity, something different. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
I didn't want to stay just at home. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
I wanted to feel that I could achieve something, | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
meet new people, travel, and possibly toughen up a little bit. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
Kelly joined up at the end of the 1980s, | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
a decade that saw war in the Falkland Islands | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
and the Troubles in Northern Ireland | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
demanding strong military involvement. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
It was a time of huge political and social change, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
and as a result of amendments to employment practice, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
the percentage of women entering the Armed Forces doubled. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
But adjusting to life in uniform came with its challenges | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
for a young Kelly Holmes. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
So I got my first beret when I joined the Women's Royal Army Corps. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
I had a big Afro then, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
so you can imagine trying to get an Afro into that little cap. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
So, yeah, I never looked that cool, really, I have to say. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
But I'll keep hold of that forever. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
It's nearly 30 years since Kelly joined the force, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
and today she's come to the army training centre in Pirbright | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
to meet its newest recruits. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
She's eager to see just how different things are from her day. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
Her first stop, the dormitories. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
Show us your sleeves. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
Do you still use starch, or are you not allowed? | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
-We're not allowed to use starch yet. -OK. But we do the soap method. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
Look at that, razor-sharp, that is. Razor-sharp. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
But some things have changed. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
When Kelly trained in the late 1980s, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
she slept on a women-only base. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
Now the boys are just one floor below. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
What's your perception of women in the army? | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
-Do you think it's a good thing? -Yeah, yeah, really good. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
-Should, shouldn't? -Something that I've noticed is | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
they're a lot more organised than we are! | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
You know, when the girls get told to, sort of, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
do this over the weekend, do this, do this, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
it gets to Monday, everything's done. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
And we're all a bit like, "We forgot to do this." | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
And do you think it's good that women now | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
have a chance to pretty much do any role in the army, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
where before they maybe didn't? | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
I think it comes down to the individual. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
I think there's some women that are a lot stronger than some men. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
That's a very mature approach. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
Good luck for the parade, and good luck for your careers. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
-ALL: -Thank you. -All right, take care. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
Very nice. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
Kelly qualified as a physical training instructor in 1991. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:01 | |
A year later, the women's service merged with the army. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
For Kelly, it meant additional training, this time alongside men. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:09 | |
When I did mine, There was around 30 of us. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
There was about 25 guys and five women. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
I was the only woman that passed, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
and there was only two or three guys that passed. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
Very, very hard. And there was no concession for women, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
which I think is right. But that meant, you know, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
it was pretty tough to reach the standards. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
And I just made sure I trained really hard to pass it, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
because it was something that I wanted to do, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
and also I wanted to prove I was as good as the guys. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
To find out how much of her own training Kelly still remembers, | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
she's back in the trademark blue jacket of an army PT instructor. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
Can everybody see the tree line over there? | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
-ALL: Yes, Sav. -Go get me a leaf and bring it back. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
Let's go. Off you go. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
Don't be last! | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Keep moving. Get rid of your leaf, get rid of your leaf, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
get rid of your leaf, get rid of your leaf. Good effort. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
Show me your leaf. Keep your feet moving. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Keep your feet moving, that's good. Going to start off by jogging. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
Yourself... Peel off, everybody else follow on. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
Let's go. Nice little square. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
I love this. I love being back. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
No, it's really cool. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
I think you've got to have a lot of guts as a young girl | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
coming in the military now. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
You know, perception of military, perception of females, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
would they come out butch, what do they look like? | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
You know, these girls are breaking the mould, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
and I feel that's brilliant. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
That's good, well done, keep your bums down. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Kelly's full of admiration for these young women, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
and she's even more impressed with | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
how their basic training has changed. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
Because now, unlike in her day, over a 14-week period, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
they'll experience the same gruelling training | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
as any male recruit. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:55 | |
Hard, fast and aggressive, let's go! | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
Go! Let's move! | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
Move! | 0:52:02 | 0:52:03 | |
Learning to fight... | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
Ready? Fire. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
OK, rifle fire's away, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:12 | |
rifle fire's right, rifle stops. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
..and survive on the battlefield. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
What I'd like you to do in your pairs, work out where you are. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
What's nice is that you're seeing the men and the women side by side. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
I just love their attitude and positive thinking | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
around the fact that we just want to be the best we can be, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
we don't want to be discriminated against. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
But more heart-warming was the men saying | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
women should be given as much opportunities. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
I thought that was great. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
Before Kelly became an army physical instructor, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
she trained as a heavy goods vehicle driver. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
I used to drive these. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
Double the clutch and all of that. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
I was lucky I'd passed my driving test | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
before I joined the military, though, so I had one step ahead. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
As far back as the First World War, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
women were recruited as mechanics and drivers. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
But fast forward 70 years, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
and they're now in training to take control of | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
the army's most powerful piece of kit, a tank. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
Something Kelly would have jumped at had she been given half the chance | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
during the time she served. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
-I'm so excited about this bit. -That's good. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
-Obviously in my era, women didn't drive tanks. -That's correct. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
But now we've got sort of the first generation of women coming through. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
-What do you think about that? -I think it's a good thing. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
We need to move with the times and everything else, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
and as long as they can do the job, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:38 | |
they're more than welcome to have a go. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
-OK, so, do you want to show me round? -Yep, certainly. OK. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
He's part of the team that will be training the new recruits to operate | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
the Challenger 2 tank. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
So you could be on these for a long time, right, if you're out? | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
Yep, you can be in these for up to about ten to 12 hours. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
So what happens in terms of, I mean, practical stuff? | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
We do have a toilet onboard, and we also have a kettle as well, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
-which we can put our rations into. -So excited. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
You know, this is a tank. This is a Challenger 2 tank! | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
We're standing on top of it. I mean, really! | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
And just hats off to all the guys and then eventually girls | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
that are going to be using these in those situations. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
-Main up? -Yep. -Guns live. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
Each tank requires a four-person crew... | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
Everyone good? | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
..a driver, a weapons loader, a gunner, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
and today, Kelly Holmes as commander. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
The tank can reach a top speed of up to 31mph, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
and with a combat weight of a hefty 70 tonnes, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
it's not wise for any enemy infantry to get too close. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
The main armament on the tank can hit the target | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
from up to 5km away. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
Kelly, lean forward. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
If you lean forward, Kelly, we'll get it to flop over! | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
KELLY LAUGHS | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
Kelly has fulfilled a lifelong ambition | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
to command a Challenger 2 tank. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
It was really good. It's just fascinating. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
There's four people in there. If you've got one woman, three guys, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
and you are in a confined area for a long time, I mean, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
you're always going to have banter, but at the end of the day, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
I think as we've discovered through doing this programme, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
if you want to do the job, you go there to do the job well, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
and that's what you think of first and foremost. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
And your crew are your crew, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
it doesn't really matter whether they're male or female. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
I can see a lot of women wanting to do that. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:55 | |
It was a lot of fun, I have to say. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
It broadens your mind. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
You stick up for yourself. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:03 | |
You start being independent, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
and them sort of things. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
I mean, in the three years that I was in the forces, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
I did everything I wanted. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
And it was fantastic. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
I enjoyed every single minute of it. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
I just wanted to make something of myself. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
I didn't want to just stay at home and say I'd just get a job | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
in a factory. I'd done that, and, you know, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
I wanted to make something of myself. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
From Land Girls to nurses, from radar operators to drivers, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
every woman who has served has played a crucial part | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
in the contribution women have made to | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
Britain's Armed Forces over a century of service. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
I suppose looking back, being in the Wrens did enrich my life in a way. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:51 | |
I never really realised it. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
There was a freedom about it. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
And comparing it with today, | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
they also find that it enriches their lives, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
these people who are no longer Wrens, | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
who are just part of the Navy. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
It did enrich my life. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
We were cosseted. We were kept in a safe environment. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
But these women are out on the front line, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
and I feel a tremendous admiration for them. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
To be here and to see Mum get her medal, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
I feel that she kind of represents so many women | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
and what they did and what they believed in, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
and how their role in the Armed Forces | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
has became absolutely indispensable. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
I don't think the desire to serve, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
the sense of commitment to duty has changed today. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
So of course I admire the women service personnel here, | 0:57:48 | 0:57:54 | |
who none of them will speak about what they've done, particularly, | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
but who will have done very remarkable things | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
in very difficult and dangerous circumstances. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
And I feel nothing but huge admiration... | 0:58:04 | 0:58:08 | |
..for them. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
To go, "Do you know what? I can do anything I want to do." | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
And that, I think, is something that | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
you're just pleased that society's moved in the right direction. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
It just gives us a chance to be who we want to be | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
and to work as hard as we can, and to be proud of what we achieve. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
Come on! | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 |