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It's 100 years since the first pioneering women

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joined the British Armed Forces.

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Today, women serve alongside men,

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together in combat on the front line.

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If you can do it and you want to do it, you should be able to.

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To see how much things have changed...

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-Love it!

-How do I look?

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..five well-known faces revisit either their own...

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Morning, ma'am. I'm the captain of the HMS Puncher.

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You called me ma'am, how sweet.

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..or a family member's military past.

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They just got stuck in.

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It was exciting.

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Always intense.

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From defending land...

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-..sea...

-I don't want to go that way.

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..and air, these are the extraordinary stories

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of a century of women at war.

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Go!

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Today, over 15,000 women serve in the Armed Forces, and their careers

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can be the same as those of the men they work alongside.

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It's a far cry from the opportunities open to the women

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who first had the chance to formally serve their country

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with the creation of the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps in 1917.

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So now, five well-known faces with a link to the forces

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are learning about the contribution women have played

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in the years since then...

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Morning, Sav!

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..and understand better how that's proved crucial to Britain's

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military successes both at home and abroad.

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-March!

-Quick march!

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June Brown gets hands-on with a ship to see how women's roles

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in the Royal Navy have changed since her own days as a Wren.

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Am I all right steering over here?

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Yeah, if you turn the wheel round to the right, yeah.

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Do a U-turn!

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Pam Ayres, who once served with the Women's Royal Air Force,

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is brought up to date by those now defending our skies,

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and takes to the air herself.

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Nicky Campbell discovers more about his mother's work

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as a radar operator...

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-It's an impressive system for the 1940s.

-It was that.

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..and watches as she finally receives recognition

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for her role fighting Nazis in World War II.

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I'm delighted. I never thought I'd ever see it.

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Edward Fox is in awe of a woman who built the plane that won the war -

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a Lancaster bomber.

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-It's an extraordinary sight, isn't it?

-It is, it's so big.

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-It's so big.

-Yes.

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And Dame Kelly Holmes, a former army personal training instructor,

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joins the latest army recruits training for action.

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I think if a guy can do it, then a girl can do it too.

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I'd be with you on that, I have to say.

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Oh, wonderful. You are wonderful!

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EASTENDERS THEME PLAYS

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She's one of our best-loved screen actors.

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You've got to see a doctor.

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I mean, we can't do no more on our own.

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-No!

-You've got to, Nick.

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Yet over 70 years ago, June Brown took on a very different role,

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as a recruit in the Women's Royal Naval Service

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during the Second World War.

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I knew I'd be called up when I was 18,

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so I thought to myself,

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"Well, if I volunteer, you know, then I can choose

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"which service I go to."

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I didn't fancy the uniform of the WAAF or ATA because it wouldn't have

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suited my complexion, and anyway, the Wrens, well,

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that was the senior service, you see?

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Here is a rather lovely poster of the Wren.

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In fact, has she got a beret on?

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Because that's what I had.

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But, you see, really rather smart we were, weren't we?

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With a different salute -

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that salute, not your hand turned round like the army.

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Quite special, we were.

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And June isn't the only woman who felt this way when signing up.

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The job we were doing, which definitely helped

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the defence of the country,

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did make us feel we were trailblazers, in a way.

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You know, we were very keen to be able to take action and win the war.

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I feel lucky to have lived through that,

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and I'm always so, so glad that I decided to do it,

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because I wouldn't have been called up,

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the job I was doing, so I've always been pleased that I did.

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It was a marvellous experience for me, wonderful.

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The best thing that ever happened.

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To be away and to mix with other girls and be independent,

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and to give orders!

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As a corporal, I was a bit laid-back,

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but we got through it anyway.

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The wartime atmosphere was that you did your bit,

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if you see what I mean?

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And that's what you went in to do, yes.

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Woman first joined the forces following massive troop losses

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on the Western Front during World War I.

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The War Office set up female-only branches of the army,

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the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy.

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All were disbanded when the war was over,

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but were quickly re-established after the start of World War II.

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And by the time June became a uniform recruit in the 1940s,

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Wrens worked in nearly 200 different roles.

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After her basic training, June became a cinema operator,

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playing training videos to troops about to embark on operations.

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Navy veteran Eddie Gaines watched the kind of films that June showed

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during the war.

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-FILM FOOTAGE:

-All vehicles are waterproofed

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and these lorries should be able to drive through

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two or three feet of water.

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Let's get it sort of... Where's it gone?

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He joined up aged 18 and worked on landing vessels used to take troops

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ashore during battle, seeing action in Normandy and in the Far East.

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I showed these films to train the sailors.

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-Guys like me.

-Yes.

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So, things like how to survive at sea, how to survive in the jungle.

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I used to sit in my little box with a little window and show

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training films like that, and then they'd pass me through their tobacco

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and their papers and I'd make them ticklers.

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-Ticklers!

-Yeah, roll-ups, you see?

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So I never watched the films, I was too busy making them cigarettes.

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Where did you go after your training?

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I went to HMS Armadillo, which was up in Scotland.

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-Near Dunoon.

-Yes, near Dunoon.

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I did training in Dunoon.

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-Did you?

-In Combined Operations, yeah.

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I used to go dancing in Dunoon.

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I think I danced with you once.

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-You might have done!

-Yeah.

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What kind of time did you have there? Did you enjoy it?

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I feel very guilty about it because other people had a very nasty time

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-in the war.

-Well, no, everybody...

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You had to make, you had to do what you had to at the time,

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but it didn't mean to say you've got to be miserable.

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Eddie and June are here to watch a rare surviving example

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of the kind of World War II training film June used to show.

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-FILM FOOTAGE:

-The coastline is divided into sectors on the map.

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These are usually no more than 3,000 yards in length.

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Suitable sectors are subdivided...

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But the films could never fully convey the chaos and horror

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of a genuine war scenario, as Eddie was to witness

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during the 1944 D-Day landings.

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And as you went out of the harbour, you'd never see another sea like it,

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a great armada was coming up the Channel, all heading east.

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-Yeah.

-There, there was a five-mile wide channel

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that had been swept by minesweepers.

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-Ah, yes.

-And we had to go to the American beach of Omaha Beach.

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Tasked with getting American troops onto Omaha Beach,

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Eddie witnessed first-hand the terrible losses

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that took place there.

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The idea then was to remove the beach obstacles.

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Most of the killing went on on the beach there.

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-A killing zone.

-A killing zone.

-Yes.

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We would drop the ramp on bodies.

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It was terrible. In fact, I...

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At the time, I always used to think that...

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..my whole life was a bonus because I got away with it.

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I was thinking, Eddie, was the part I played in it as a cine op

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of any value, do you think?

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It was fantastic.

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Jobs like that, like you did, released men.

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-Yes.

-Like myself, to go and...

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-Yeah, that was our function, really...

-Yes.

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..to take the place of the men so they could fight.

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And it was done well.

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All the things that you and a great host of ladies...

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They all came in and did all their effort.

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It was nothing compared with what you did.

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Every man appreciated the big effort that the women made.

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Talking to Eddie has made me feel quite humble, in a way.

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I'm glad that we were able to support them,

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but what we sent them out to was not very pleasant.

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It has affected me quite a lot, quite honestly.

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I watched that film and, oh, it seemed so simple, didn't it?

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But it doesn't happen like that.

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Plans go awry.

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The service and support of the Wrens proved vital over the course of

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World War II, and four years later the Wrens were made a permanent part

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of the Navy.

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By 1990, women were serving alongside men at sea,

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and three years the later the Wrens disbanded

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and merged with the Royal Navy.

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Today, women are a vital part of ships' companies.

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And to see this modern force first-hand,

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June's been invited aboard HMS Mersey, moored on the Thames.

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She wants to compare her wartime experiences with those of women

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serving in the Royal Navy today,

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and she's anticipating a very different landscape.

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It's very interesting to me what is happening in the services now,

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because the jobs are going to be a great deal different

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from the ones we did.

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So it will be very interesting to see how it's changed,

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not that I like change!

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So there you go, if you come in here, this is my cabin.

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-Oh, there's double bunks...

-Yeah.

-..so you can have a visitor.

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-So on...

-And quite a spacious loo and shower.

-And a shower as well.

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So on Mersey, you'll get the maximum of two people per cabin,

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so you'll just have one cabin mate throughout your time on board.

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Sub-lieutenant Howes is one of four women

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on the mixed crew of this offshore patrol vessel.

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So this is the bridge.

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This is where, day to day, we navigate the ship from.

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For me, I'm in the watch rotation, so I do bridge watches.

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-Yeah.

-So in 24 hours, I'll be on the bridge for eight hours.

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-Are there many romances on board?

-No, definitely not.

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There, you see, that's amazing.

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But it's almost as if you treat them as chaps

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and they treat you as chaps.

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Just colleagues, really, we all treat each other, you know...

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I don't mind if I'm on watch with a male officer or a female officer,

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you know, it's just work at the end of the day, really.

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The women serving in today's Royal Navy

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can take up every role on board ship.

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-What's this?

-This is our 20-mil gun.

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They'll fit their shoulders in there.

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Shoulders, both shoulders?

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Yeah, then you put your hands on there, just on there.

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What happens with this hand?

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That's your squeeze. That will shoot it, it's the trigger.

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-Oh, it's a very complicated gun, isn't it?

-I know.

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And it's a very big gun.

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Now, June is about to get a taste of what current servicewomen can do,

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as she's invited to steer a naval vessel along the Thames.

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Morning, ma'am. I'm Oliver Rowan, I'm the captain of HMS Puncher.

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You called me ma'am, how sweet.

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-I'd rather be a ma'am...

-Ma'am, yes.

-..then I'd be the Queen!

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That is very true.

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Captain Rowan explains to June just how much things

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have now changed.

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Why are we swaying?

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Oh, of course, we're on a boat.

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We've currently got five female captains of the ships,

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who do exactly the same jobs as us,

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and obviously in today's Navy

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they're pushing through and we've got

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commanders of all sorts of ships,

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all different backgrounds and experiences.

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So when you first were in the Navy,

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it was a completely different environment.

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-Now we work side by side.

-Yes.

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73 years after she left the Wrens,

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the controls are now firmly in June's hands.

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So we've got the engines just here,

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-where we can control both of the engines.

-Yeah.

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So we've got the positions of slow astern and slow ahead.

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So you can see now the ship's head is turning slowly.

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So we'll just let us come left of the buoys.

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Am I all right steering over here?

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-Yeah, that's absolutely fine.

-I don't want to go that way.

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If you turn the wheel round to the right, yeah,

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just keep coming further round.

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Once we get to the end, we'll turn all the way round.

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-Right.

-Yeah.

-Do a U-turn!

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When I started this programme,

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I had a certain prejudice against the Navy being one,

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that women and men were just the Navy.

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I just couldn't see that it could happen.

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I suppose being offered a drive of this patrol boat

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made me realise that I would have been perfectly capable

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of doing this when I was young.

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But close-combat roles were out of the question for women

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in the military until 2016,

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even if the women who served before then

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would have considered themselves more than capable.

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Women have always proved in hard times

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we are equally as tough as the men, if not tougher.

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I would have liked to have been a pilot on the front line, yeah.

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I was always told that, you know,

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you have to be twice as good to even be considered as an equal.

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It's all about what's inside you

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as an individual and the heart and soul

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you put into training and determination.

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Today, approximately 15,000 women choose to serve in the Armed Forces,

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but during wartime the numbers swelled,

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not simply because of volunteers, but thanks to conscription.

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Many women, like June, chose to join the war effort

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before receiving the official call.

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And that the same time June chose to join the Wrens, Sheila Campbell,

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mother of broadcaster Nicky Campbell,

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couldn't wait to sign up to the Women's Auxiliary Air Force,

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or WAAF.

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-Much to my parents' fury.

-Really?

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They were furious, because I was reserved

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and I should have finished my degree.

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They went to their lawyer and tried to get me out of my volunteering

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for the WAAF and joining up

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but they couldn't, so I travelled off to the WAAF.

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Did you feel that you were part of a cause, defending the country,

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-helping the effort against Hitler?

-Yes, definitely.

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And the excitement of it all and being with a group of others.

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It was exciting, always exciting, always intense,

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and one played hard in between.

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When you were off duty, you went to dances, you went here and there,

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you went out drinking.

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Nicky is about to find out about his mother's role as a radar operator

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in the WAAF, and is starting with a diary kept at the time.

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What was great, Mum gave me this book

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which was a record of where she was and what she was doing

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before the war, during the war and beyond, which was kept,

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unbeknownst to her, by her mother.

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And so this is actually, from a family point of view, invaluable.

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So where was she, 31st of May 1944?

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"Posted to Beachy Head, then Sussex."

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"D-Day, the sixth of June..." There it is written down there.

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Screaming from the page, leaping out,

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"D-Day, sixth of June."

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Sheila was on duty in the operations room

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on the day of this decisive Allied invasion.

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I shall never forget it.

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I mean, one was aware of what one was doing,

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you know, just bombing a little ahead of the troops

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and praying that you got your measurements right

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and that the troops weren't going to be hit by you.

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-ARCHIVE FOOTAGE:

-Bombing behind the lines and supplying cover

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for our advancing armies are only an indication

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of the many jobs assigned to the air forces.

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To better understand the part his mother played in the war,

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Nicky's on his way to a radar museum.

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Sheila's primary role was tracking enemy aircraft

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entering British airspace.

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Their intelligence was used to sound warnings

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and to scramble defensive planes.

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For WAAFs like Sheila,

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the threat of attack from a German bombing raid was very real.

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730 members of the WAAFs were killed during the war by German bombs.

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George Taylor is a volunteer at the museum

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and used to work as a radar operator during the Cold War.

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This is an amazing bit of technology,

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and is this what my mother would have been looking at?

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-Yes, correct, here on the eye scope.

-Yeah.

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So when a raid's coming in, what would the atmosphere

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have been like in a place like this?

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Well, they would just say, "Another raid coming in,

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"strength so-and-so, height so-and-so."

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And that would be it, and then you'd concentrate on the next one.

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-Professional?

-It's no good getting panicky.

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This is a scenario that people will recognise from the movies, I think.

0:19:010:19:07

-Yeah.

-So how did it exactly work?

0:19:070:19:09

You'd have about 15 WAAFs round a table like this and they'd all be

0:19:090:19:14

getting information in from different radar stations

0:19:140:19:17

and plotting it on this table.

0:19:170:19:20

So Mum is gathering the data, and then the data is being passed

0:19:200:19:23

-over here, which informs this process?

-Yeah.

0:19:230:19:29

-ARCHIVE FOOTAGE:

-When next you see a plane in the sky,

0:19:290:19:31

think of these people down in the operations room.

0:19:310:19:33

They can see it too, right here on these plotting tables.

0:19:330:19:37

These tracers, they would be moving three or four times a minute.

0:19:370:19:43

-Do I move these arrows?

-You move these arrows.

0:19:430:19:47

-Like that?

-Like that, that's right.

0:19:470:19:49

It's an impressive system for the 1940s.

0:19:510:19:54

It was that. Yeah, yeah, I can just remember it.

0:19:540:19:59

The work of the aerial intelligence teams provided key turning points

0:20:010:20:04

in both world wars.

0:20:040:20:07

As well as defending British skies,

0:20:070:20:09

their job was also to plan attacks on the enemy.

0:20:090:20:12

Assisting the so-called Spies in the Sky,

0:20:120:20:15

they were able to research locations,

0:20:150:20:17

spot targets and track enemy movements.

0:20:170:20:20

But, as Nicky's mum Sheila recalls,

0:20:220:20:25

some of their work came at great human cost.

0:20:250:20:27

Winds changed, and perhaps our accuracy

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and our measurements wasn't as perfect.

0:20:330:20:37

In February 1945, during the bombing of the German city of Dresden,

0:20:390:20:43

over 25,000 civilians died.

0:20:430:20:47

And the thousand bomber raids, they just flattened everything.

0:20:470:20:52

What did you think about that, people dying?

0:20:570:21:00

That's the thing. The fact that people were involved

0:21:000:21:04

or lived in some of the places we were bombing,

0:21:040:21:06

we didn't think about it.

0:21:060:21:08

-Didn't you?

-No.

-You never discussed it?

0:21:080:21:11

It would have been difficult to carry on, in a way.

0:21:110:21:14

You know, to do the job...

0:21:170:21:19

You couldn't entertain the thought, no?

0:21:200:21:23

When did you start thinking about that?

0:21:230:21:25

Not till way after the war.

0:21:270:21:30

It's all such a long time ago.

0:21:310:21:33

She has spoken about her mixed feelings about what...

0:21:360:21:40

she was doing ultimately led to,

0:21:400:21:44

and the disconnect

0:21:440:21:46

between having a board in front of you or a radar screen

0:21:460:21:49

in front of you, and people being incinerated.

0:21:490:21:54

There's huge controversy about some of the bombing

0:21:550:21:58

that we did in Germany, and I think any right-minded person

0:21:580:22:02

can understand both sides of the argument.

0:22:020:22:05

How much was necessary, how much was proportionate,

0:22:050:22:10

how much was stuff that happens in war?

0:22:100:22:14

Like many people who serve their country through war,

0:22:180:22:21

Sheila Campbell has mixed feelings about some of the things

0:22:210:22:24

she was tasked with.

0:22:240:22:26

But she had a job to do serving her country,

0:22:260:22:29

and her role in the WAAF and the Allied victory

0:22:290:22:32

has always been a source of great pride and personal satisfaction.

0:22:320:22:36

Group Captain Gus Wells has invited the Campbell family

0:22:390:22:43

to the RAF Museum in Hendon, to thank Sheila for the contribution.

0:22:430:22:47

-Hi.

-Hello, family. Hello, how are you?

-Hi!

0:22:470:22:51

And it's his privilege to invest Shelia

0:22:510:22:53

with the war medal she never received,

0:22:530:22:56

in recognition of the service to the WAAF during World War II.

0:22:560:22:59

On behalf of the Royal Air Force, it's a pleasure,

0:23:010:23:04

and actually a privilege as well,

0:23:040:23:06

to be able to present you with this long overdue 1939-45 medal.

0:23:060:23:11

The work that you and your contemporaries did

0:23:110:23:14

throughout the war is very much part of our heritage

0:23:140:23:17

and it guides what we do today,

0:23:170:23:18

so you really are an inspiration to us all.

0:23:180:23:21

Thank you very much indeed.

0:23:210:23:22

-Oh, my goodness!

-THEY CHEER

0:23:220:23:24

At last!

0:23:240:23:26

How lovely. Thank you so much.

0:23:260:23:29

That's all right, it's all our pleasure, it really is.

0:23:290:23:33

Wonderful, I'm delighted.

0:23:330:23:34

I never thought I'd ever see it.

0:23:340:23:37

And no-one could be more proud than Sheila's granddaughter Isla.

0:23:400:23:45

She was such a pioneer for what she did in the war.

0:23:450:23:49

Even though I've studied it at school,

0:23:490:23:50

I didn't realise how much they really affected the war effort,

0:23:500:23:53

and, you know, without them it could have been a different story.

0:23:530:23:57

She's really inspirational.

0:23:580:24:00

Sheila is delighted to have her family by her side

0:24:020:24:05

as her contribution to the war effort is recognised.

0:24:050:24:09

But while she's earned her place in history,

0:24:090:24:11

she's not alone in facing opposition from her parents when joining up.

0:24:110:24:15

My father was in the First World War and he understood perfectly

0:24:180:24:24

why I wanted to join up.

0:24:240:24:26

My father was absolutely livid.

0:24:260:24:30

I won't tell you what he said, but he was very angry.

0:24:300:24:34

It took him a while to speak to me after that.

0:24:340:24:36

They didn't want me to be a balloon operator,

0:24:360:24:38

because they thought that was...

0:24:380:24:39

That you needed muscles, and they didn't want their daughter

0:24:390:24:42

with big muscles.

0:24:420:24:44

I won't tell you exactly what my father said,

0:24:440:24:46

because it was probably quite rude.

0:24:460:24:48

But the others were fine,

0:24:480:24:49

because my stepmother was in the WAAF

0:24:490:24:52

during the Second World War as well.

0:24:520:24:54

Initially my parents were a little bit concerned,

0:24:540:24:58

but fully supportive of all the way through my career.

0:24:580:25:01

I wouldn't have been where I am now if it wasn't for their support.

0:25:010:25:04

Throughout the 100 years of women's service,

0:25:060:25:09

the role of the military has changed

0:25:090:25:11

according to the demands of the conflicts it's faced.

0:25:110:25:13

In 1965, 20 years after the end of World War II,

0:25:140:25:19

poet Pam Ayres joined a very different air force

0:25:190:25:22

from the one in which Sheila Campbell served.

0:25:220:25:25

One day I saw an advert for the Women's Royal Air Force,

0:25:250:25:29

and it was very persuasive.

0:25:290:25:31

And it said, you know,

0:25:310:25:32

"Life of excitement, join the Women's Royal Air Force."

0:25:320:25:35

I hoped for cheap travel...

0:25:350:25:37

Well, free travel, let's not mince words.

0:25:370:25:39

And I hoped to see the world and meet different people

0:25:390:25:44

and break out and do the things that young people wanted to do.

0:25:440:25:48

During her service, Pam also discovered a love of performing

0:25:500:25:54

that eventually made her into

0:25:540:25:56

a household name in the 1970s.

0:25:560:25:59

I'm like a Cheshire cat, I'm good with a grin.

0:25:590:26:03

But before that career blossomed,

0:26:050:26:07

Pam worked in aerial intelligence,

0:26:070:26:09

analysing the photography taken by RAF surveillance planes.

0:26:090:26:13

You would have to identify where it was and the scale of it.

0:26:150:26:21

That was very hard.

0:26:220:26:23

Pam was what's known as a plotter,

0:26:250:26:27

first in the UK and later in Singapore and Germany.

0:26:270:26:30

So she's on their way to RAF Marham in Norfolk to see how the role

0:26:300:26:34

she didn't always relish has changed.

0:26:340:26:37

I'm not particularly looking forward to seeing all that equipment again,

0:26:380:26:43

and all that stuff that made me so miserable.

0:26:430:26:46

I dare say, you know, it will be much more modern now,

0:26:460:26:49

but oh, God, I hated it.

0:26:490:26:52

Marham is home to the RAF's Tornado GR4 Force,

0:26:520:26:55

and one of the intelligence, surveillance

0:26:550:26:58

and reconnaissance wings.

0:26:580:26:59

Pam's meeting two of almost 5,000 women serving in the RAF today,

0:27:010:27:06

each one tasked with a vital defence role.

0:27:060:27:10

As she did, these analysts have signed the Official Secrets Act,

0:27:100:27:14

so access to their work is strictly limited.

0:27:140:27:17

Now, this all looks a little more sophisticated

0:27:180:27:21

than the kind of equipment I was dealing with in the '60s

0:27:210:27:25

when I had a pen and a bottle of etching ink

0:27:250:27:28

and a sheet of acetate, basically.

0:27:280:27:31

If I'd only had all this stuff.

0:27:310:27:32

Now, what's this? What are these for?

0:27:320:27:34

They look really serious.

0:27:340:27:36

They will turn the imagery 3-D,

0:27:360:27:38

so you'll be able to see it in stereo.

0:27:380:27:40

-Can I put these on? Does it matter which ones?

-No.

0:27:400:27:43

OK. Right.

0:27:430:27:44

THEY LAUGH

0:27:440:27:45

Oh, wow, look at this!

0:27:450:27:47

SHE GASPS

0:27:470:27:48

You see, you feel as though you're in an aircraft.

0:27:480:27:51

You feel as though you're looking down out of an aircraft vertically,

0:27:510:27:55

and the tops of the trees seem so close,

0:27:550:27:58

and the aircraft seem so far away.

0:27:580:28:01

No, I mean, this is also much more sophisticated

0:28:010:28:03

than the work I was doing.

0:28:030:28:05

I was just trying to record what photography we had,

0:28:050:28:08

whereas you're looking to see

0:28:080:28:10

what's in it, aren't you?

0:28:100:28:13

We're looking at an airfield here, and we could get asked a number

0:28:130:28:17

of questions as to whether the airfield's serviceable,

0:28:170:28:20

as to what aircraft are at the airfield.

0:28:200:28:24

And then we would just look around...

0:28:240:28:26

..the airfield to see if there was anything of note.

0:28:280:28:30

Today, the RAF are supporting missions in the Middle East,

0:28:330:28:36

and in recent years, it's provided aerial surveillance

0:28:360:28:39

in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

0:28:390:28:44

This is so interesting for me, really.

0:28:440:28:47

There's something tremendously optimistic about it,

0:28:470:28:49

because I'm enjoying looking at this.

0:28:490:28:52

I just like wearing glasses because I feel cool.

0:28:520:28:54

This year, the RAF became the first branch of the military

0:28:570:29:00

to open every single role to all those serving.

0:29:000:29:04

100 years ago, when women first joined,

0:29:040:29:06

it was a very different picture.

0:29:060:29:09

Yet every single servicewoman who played a part

0:29:090:29:11

in the First and Second World Wars

0:29:110:29:14

paved the way for the next generation, like Pam.

0:29:140:29:18

Especially pioneers like Joy Lofthouse.

0:29:180:29:21

She was one of only 166 females in non-combat flying roles

0:29:210:29:26

during the war.

0:29:260:29:27

-I'm so pleased to meet you.

-It should be the other way about.

0:29:290:29:33

-Pleased to meet you.

-No, not at all!

0:29:330:29:35

I feel a complete fraud, because I was in the air force

0:29:350:29:38

as an air photography plotter, but you were the real McCoy.

0:29:380:29:42

You were a pilot.

0:29:420:29:45

Throughout the war, women in the WAAF were restricted

0:29:450:29:48

from aircraft duty.

0:29:480:29:50

It was deemed unacceptable by the RAF.

0:29:500:29:53

But that changed, thanks in part to the stand

0:29:530:29:56

commercial pilot Pauline Gower made

0:29:560:29:58

when she formed the Air Transport Auxiliary.

0:29:580:30:02

Joy was one of those women for whom Pauline paved the way.

0:30:020:30:07

We did all the non-operational flying to allow the Air Force

0:30:070:30:12

to do the operational work.

0:30:120:30:15

I flew all single-seater fighters, and what they called light twins.

0:30:150:30:20

I wasn't allowed to fly anything fast

0:30:200:30:23

like a Mosquito or anything.

0:30:230:30:25

But what you call light twins,

0:30:250:30:27

which is an Oxford and an Anson and things like that.

0:30:270:30:31

What was your favourite aircraft to fly?

0:30:310:30:34

Oh, the Spit, obviously.

0:30:340:30:35

It was still in everyone's mind as having won the Battle of Britain.

0:30:350:30:39

Yeah.

0:30:390:30:42

Were they held to fly? Are the controls difficult?

0:30:420:30:45

You only have to know the take-off speed and the landing speed, really.

0:30:450:30:50

Really?

0:30:500:30:51

You seem very modest about what you did, Joy.

0:30:510:30:55

I'm sure most people would think you were absolutely heroic to go up

0:30:550:30:59

and deliver these aircraft on your own,

0:30:590:31:00

but you seem quite modest and self-effacing about it.

0:31:000:31:04

Well, all women did something, and a lot of the women, you know,

0:31:040:31:09

who were in the Battle of Britain, they got bombed and everything.

0:31:090:31:13

So it was dangerous just to be around then.

0:31:130:31:17

-I suppose so.

-So it didn't really matter if one was in

0:31:170:31:20

a more or less dangerous job.

0:31:200:31:22

And you were young, nothing was ever going to happen to you.

0:31:220:31:25

-No, I know. You feel invincible.

-Nothing was going to happen.

0:31:250:31:27

Absolutely.

0:31:270:31:29

Joy, do you think World War II gave opportunities to women

0:31:290:31:33

that they wouldn't otherwise have had?

0:31:330:31:35

It was the first foot in the door, if you like.

0:31:350:31:37

Yeah, I think it probably was.

0:31:370:31:39

It was probably the first foot in the door.

0:31:390:31:41

-Otherwise, it was back to the kitchen sink, you know?

-Yeah.

0:31:410:31:44

Alongside their male colleagues,

0:31:450:31:47

the Air Transport Auxiliary Service delivered over 300,000 planes

0:31:470:31:52

to airfields across the country.

0:31:520:31:53

What she did in the '40s, and what women like her did,

0:31:550:31:59

was to take on these ground-breaking jobs,

0:31:590:32:02

and that began the process whereby today

0:32:020:32:05

all those things are now open to modern women,

0:32:050:32:08

and I think you can trace it back to women like Joy

0:32:080:32:12

in her Spitfire.

0:32:120:32:14

The war ended, and with it the ATA became redundant and was disbanded.

0:32:160:32:21

After the war, some woman did get to fly as volunteers for the WRAF,

0:32:220:32:25

but it wasn't until 1989 that the opportunity

0:32:250:32:28

to fly military aircraft was reopened to women.

0:32:280:32:32

And after 1994, when the WRAF merged with the RAF,

0:32:320:32:36

another milestone was soon reached.

0:32:360:32:39

This morning, the service's first woman trained to fly combat missions

0:32:390:32:42

took to the air.

0:32:420:32:44

As part of 617 Dambusters Squadron,

0:32:440:32:46

Flight Lieutenant Jo Salter set off from RAF Lossiemouth in a Tornado.

0:32:460:32:50

I think it's very important that children

0:32:500:32:52

who are going through school, especially girls,

0:32:520:32:55

have the opportunity to see that everything is open

0:32:550:32:58

in this day and age.

0:32:580:32:59

Women like this flight lieutenant have taken up that call to arms.

0:33:010:33:05

Qualifying as a pilot in March,

0:33:050:33:07

she is now undergoing training that will enable her

0:33:070:33:10

to offer front-line support in the Puma helicopter.

0:33:100:33:13

What is it that attracts you?

0:33:160:33:18

Why did you want to fly that particular aircraft?

0:33:180:33:21

I love flying helicopters, so I'd always wanted to go...

0:33:210:33:24

Always wanted to end up flying helicopters.

0:33:240:33:26

I like that you're flying low level a lot of the time.

0:33:260:33:28

So I like that you're in amongst it

0:33:280:33:30

and you're doing something that's very involved

0:33:300:33:32

with people on the ground.

0:33:320:33:33

It's such a contrast.

0:33:330:33:35

I was in the Women's Royal Air Force from '65 to '69,

0:33:350:33:39

and the idea of a female pilot was far off into the future.

0:33:390:33:44

Yeah, it's still unusual.

0:33:440:33:46

But there are no barriers to it, so I think if you want to do it,

0:33:460:33:49

you can do it, and I think that's how it should be.

0:33:490:33:52

-Indeed, yeah.

-So rather than saying, you know,

0:33:520:33:54

you have to have half women and half men,

0:33:540:33:57

and kind of, sort of, forcing it, I just think if you can do it

0:33:570:34:00

-and you want to do it, you should be able to.

-Yeah.

0:34:000:34:03

And I'm so glad it's changed from how it was when you...

0:34:030:34:05

-Yes, I know, I'm glad, too that...

-If you just give the opportunity...

0:34:050:34:08

-..these things are open to everybody who really...

-Absolutely.

0:34:080:34:11

..is prepared to devote themselves to getting into it -

0:34:110:34:15

that you would be able to succeed in it.

0:34:150:34:18

To get a chance to experience a job that was never on offer

0:34:180:34:22

during her time in the service,

0:34:220:34:24

Pam has been asked to join the Puma team as they practice landing

0:34:240:34:27

in confined spaces.

0:34:270:34:29

How do I look?

0:34:310:34:33

Many women like Pam would say their military service,

0:35:140:35:17

whether in the Navy, Army or the RAF,

0:35:170:35:20

led to extraordinary personal experiences

0:35:200:35:22

which have shaped their entire lives.

0:35:220:35:25

I joined to travel because travel was something which,

0:35:280:35:33

when I was growing up,

0:35:330:35:34

you only did if you were rich and things like that.

0:35:340:35:38

So it was more for adventure.

0:35:380:35:40

It was in my mind to leave home.

0:35:400:35:43

I just wanted to get away, that's all, and do something.

0:35:430:35:46

So I went and signed on virtually the day I was 17 and a half.

0:35:460:35:52

You felt a bit like a pioneer, because before that, they...

0:35:520:35:58

They didn't accept women.

0:35:580:36:00

But there were thousands of us at that particular time.

0:36:000:36:03

The contribution of women extends beyond those who signed up to serve.

0:36:080:36:12

During World War II,

0:36:120:36:14

women were also conscripted to work in other roles on the home front,

0:36:140:36:18

as air raid wardens, bus drivers, nurses, and munitions workers.

0:36:180:36:23

As a child of the war,

0:36:230:36:25

it was something that actor Edward Fox witnessed first-hand.

0:36:250:36:29

The conditions that women lived under during the war

0:36:290:36:33

is somewhat forgotten.

0:36:330:36:36

But of course it was crucial,

0:36:360:36:38

because they just got stuck into whatever needed doing.

0:36:380:36:43

And that was a commitment that women made

0:36:430:36:46

just as strongly for what they could do in a wartime situation

0:36:460:36:51

as men, who as men would say,

0:36:510:36:55

"We go to defend our country and to fight an enemy."

0:36:550:36:58

Edward's aunt Mary was one of millions of women

0:36:590:37:02

who enthusiastically took up the call to do their bit.

0:37:020:37:05

Mary was as tough as a man.

0:37:060:37:09

She was a bit like a very delicate, strict colonel.

0:37:090:37:13

But she would have no nonsense with anything.

0:37:140:37:17

She'd do anything.

0:37:170:37:18

Mary left London for rural Cornwall,

0:37:180:37:21

where women were needed in their thousands to help work the land.

0:37:210:37:24

Mary, being of the nature that she was, she embraced hard work.

0:37:250:37:30

Embraced anything that she could do to contribute to,

0:37:300:37:36

again, the war effort.

0:37:360:37:38

And farming, of course, was vitally important,

0:37:380:37:41

because the question of whether the country would have been able

0:37:410:37:46

to provide for itself with its own producing was crucial.

0:37:460:37:51

Mary died five years ago,

0:37:540:37:56

so to fully understand the contribution she made,

0:37:560:37:59

Edward's travelling to North Yorkshire

0:37:590:38:01

to meet ex-Land Girl Iris Newbold.

0:38:010:38:04

Like Mary, Iris gave up the relative comforts of the city in Hull

0:38:050:38:09

for the tougher outdoor life of the country.

0:38:090:38:12

Gosh.

0:38:120:38:14

You could be 25 years old.

0:38:140:38:17

-Oh, bless!

-You're beautiful!

0:38:170:38:18

-It's not bad for 92, is it?

-Wonderful.

0:38:180:38:21

You lived in this house during the war, did you?

0:38:210:38:24

-Oh, yes.

-Did you?

-Yeah.

-A lovely house to live in, too.

0:38:240:38:27

-It was.

-A bit basic?

0:38:270:38:29

Very - no gas, no electricity, no water.

0:38:290:38:33

For two years, I just stayed here, living in the cottage,

0:38:330:38:38

and working within a 12-mile radius of this village.

0:38:380:38:42

When you first came to live here,

0:38:420:38:45

-how old were you?

-18.

-18!

-Yes!

0:38:450:38:50

At its peak in 1943, 80,000 women in the Land Army worked on the fields,

0:38:510:38:58

and this is one of the farms on which Iris toiled.

0:38:580:39:01

When you first arrived, you were in very foreign land for you, really.

0:39:010:39:06

-Very much so.

-And everything that was going on

0:39:060:39:09

-will have been strange.

-Yes.

0:39:090:39:11

I can remember feeling bewildered.

0:39:110:39:13

Gosh, you know, I don't know...

0:39:130:39:16

I knew I was up to the job,

0:39:160:39:18

but whether I could do it well enough for them...

0:39:180:39:20

Because I'd had a weekend at an instruction farm,

0:39:200:39:23

and that was all the training I ever got.

0:39:230:39:26

Edward is meeting farming historian Mike Tyler to find out more about

0:39:280:39:32

the Land Girls and just how vital their contribution was.

0:39:320:39:37

The Land Army was very, very effective in mobilising volunteers,

0:39:370:39:41

bringing people, young girls, out.

0:39:410:39:44

And then saying, "Right, where do these girls need to go?

0:39:440:39:47

"Where can they make the biggest impact?"

0:39:470:39:50

My Aunt Mary was farming from that time, absolutely.

0:39:500:39:56

But I remember one of the things she said was,

0:39:560:39:58

"We used to plough right up to the edge of the cliff."

0:39:580:40:01

-Yep.

-To use every foot of land that they could.

-Yes.

0:40:010:40:08

If that million and a half acres of land

0:40:080:40:11

hadn't come back into production, if those pairs of hands

0:40:110:40:15

that the Land Girls provided hadn't been in,

0:40:150:40:18

the food would not have been on the plates,

0:40:180:40:21

and you would have quite seriously been looking at...

0:40:210:40:24

-Starvation.

-..starvation.

0:40:240:40:26

Iris's story, although she's younger than my Aunt Mary,

0:40:260:40:31

but they were doing exactly the same work together in the war.

0:40:310:40:35

And although they will have made light of it then, actually,

0:40:350:40:40

without the work of the Women's Land Army and the women's war effort,

0:40:400:40:47

there would have been a serious depletion in food production

0:40:470:40:51

for the nation.

0:40:510:40:53

Erm...

0:40:530:40:55

That's a remembrance worth having.

0:40:550:41:00

Although during World War I and World War II,

0:41:030:41:06

women weren't mobilised to fight on the front line,

0:41:060:41:09

over one and a half million were conscripted

0:41:090:41:11

into another vital industry, armaments.

0:41:110:41:15

Keeping up a supply of weapons and aircraft production

0:41:160:41:20

became vitally important.

0:41:200:41:22

Edward's arrived at the Lincolnshire Aviation Centre

0:41:240:41:28

to meet 92-year-old Joan Ray.

0:41:280:41:30

During the war, she worked in a factory in Doncaster,

0:41:300:41:33

riveting side panels for the Lancaster bombers.

0:41:330:41:37

-It's an extraordinary sight, isn't it?

-It is, it's so big.

0:41:370:41:40

-It's so big.

-Yes.

-That's a very good photograph of girls working,

0:41:400:41:45

because that could have been you,

0:41:450:41:47

couldn't it, really?

0:41:470:41:48

When you were doing the riveting, what did it entail,

0:41:480:41:51

and how did you do it?

0:41:510:41:53

Well, we had to go and pick these panels up and put them on a stand.

0:41:530:41:57

-Yep.

-And then you had to drill the holes in the panels,

0:41:570:42:01

and then there was two of you, one put the rivets in,

0:42:010:42:05

and at the other side of the panel,

0:42:050:42:07

the other lady would be knocking them down.

0:42:070:42:09

-Over 12 hours in a day, too?

-Some days, yes.

0:42:090:42:13

Did you feel that the work you were doing for the war effort

0:42:130:42:17

was vitally important?

0:42:170:42:20

Yeah, because we knew how serious it was, what job we were doing, yes.

0:42:200:42:24

And that everything that you and all the girls did

0:42:240:42:28

was contributing in its own way to winning the war.

0:42:280:42:33

Yeah, yeah.

0:42:330:42:35

That was the feeling, wasn't it?

0:42:350:42:36

Yes, of course.

0:42:360:42:37

To show Joan just how vital her contribution was,

0:42:370:42:41

Edward has brought her to meet Rusty,

0:42:410:42:43

a World War II pilot who flew one of the Lancaster planes

0:42:430:42:46

she helped to build.

0:42:460:42:48

I were a riveter on...

0:42:480:42:50

Were you riveting, were you? That's amazing.

0:42:500:42:53

A lot of us were only young girls, 17 and a half.

0:42:530:42:55

-Oh, I was an old man. I was 20!

-Oh, was you!

0:42:550:42:58

The general public these days have no idea

0:43:000:43:04

what went on in getting these aircraft built

0:43:040:43:06

and getting these aircraft ready.

0:43:060:43:09

If it wasn't for people like you doing the jobs that you did,

0:43:090:43:12

-and so reliably, we as aircrew couldn't have flown.

-No.

0:43:120:43:16

So, you know, your job was really just as vital as anybody else's.

0:43:160:43:21

Realising just what you did for us flying -

0:43:210:43:26

people, like, flying, not me personally -

0:43:260:43:28

there's a little something which might...

0:43:280:43:31

You may have dozens of these, but I hope you perhaps like it.

0:43:310:43:34

-It's...

-It's lovely, thank you.

0:43:340:43:36

That's lovely.

0:43:390:43:41

The Lancaster bombers that women like Joan carefully assembled

0:43:430:43:46

on the factory floor took on a life of their own once in the skies.

0:43:460:43:50

And Rusty wants to show Edward what being on board one was like.

0:43:520:43:56

Those little windows that you could look into the bomb doors...

0:43:560:43:59

-Yes.

-..and see if your bombs had fallen.

-Yeah.

0:43:590:44:03

One thing you don't get is that sort of...

0:44:030:44:06

It's very difficult to put over what it was like.

0:44:060:44:08

As a crew on operations,

0:44:080:44:10

you've got about, what, 60% normal flying, about 40% panic.

0:44:100:44:17

And some raids it was a lot like you were

0:44:170:44:19

in high adrenaline rate all the time.

0:44:190:44:22

Of the 125 crew who flew in Bomber Command during the war,

0:44:230:44:27

55,000 were killed, many of them in Lancasters.

0:44:270:44:31

When you first started on Operations,

0:44:320:44:35

you realised people were killed,

0:44:350:44:37

and you said "poor souls" and that sort of thing.

0:44:370:44:40

But later on, it happened so often,

0:44:400:44:43

you just accepted the fact that people were going to be killed.

0:44:430:44:46

-Yeah.

-And you didn't expect to live yourself.

0:44:460:44:49

-No.

-I was giving a talk to a school one day,

0:44:490:44:52

and one of the little girls said,

0:44:520:44:54

"How many dead bodies did you see?"

0:44:540:44:57

-Well, we didn't see dead bodies.

-No.

-All we saw were empty beds.

0:44:570:45:00

It's been a completely fascinating day being here,

0:45:020:45:05

but meeting Joan -

0:45:050:45:07

17 and a half years of age she was on an assembly line,

0:45:070:45:12

and Rusty, I mean, talking to Rusty is just wonderful.

0:45:120:45:19

But as he also was saying,

0:45:190:45:22

the aircrews would never have had aeroplanes to fly

0:45:220:45:25

unless they'd been made.

0:45:250:45:27

And they were put together panel by panel, rivet by rivet,

0:45:270:45:32

mostly by women,

0:45:320:45:34

or in a large majority by women, because it was very important

0:45:340:45:39

and very crucial to the war effort, and to winning the war.

0:45:390:45:44

So I've had a wonderful day.

0:45:440:45:47

Wonderful day.

0:45:470:45:49

I mean, two wonderful people.

0:45:490:45:51

Whether as Land Girls working in factories like Joan,

0:45:540:45:57

or in the forces,

0:45:570:45:58

every one of the women who served in the war

0:45:580:46:01

paved the way for today's generation of women,

0:46:010:46:04

inspiring them to take on more active roles in the military.

0:46:040:46:08

I think it's amazing what they did

0:46:110:46:13

and to see where we've come now

0:46:130:46:16

and to look back at that.

0:46:160:46:19

I'm really proud to be able to do the job that I do

0:46:190:46:22

because of what they did for us.

0:46:220:46:24

I think they were very courageous at a time where society maybe wasn't

0:46:240:46:30

fully supportive of them in that kind of role.

0:46:300:46:33

I can't imagine trying to forge my way as one of the first

0:46:330:46:37

pioneering females, you know, into the military

0:46:370:46:40

because I imagine it must've been really difficult.

0:46:400:46:43

And because of them, we're here now and we've got mixed forces.

0:46:430:46:47

It's just great, to be honest.

0:46:470:46:49

They've paved the way to where we are now,

0:46:490:46:52

and I'm sort of very proud to be serving

0:46:520:46:55

in their footsteps, really.

0:46:550:46:58

-COMMENTATOR:

-Kelly Holmes bringing it home for Britain.

0:47:000:47:03

Can she get there? One more...

0:47:030:47:05

Come on, Kelly Holmes!

0:47:050:47:06

It's gold! Kelly's won the gold for Great Britain.

0:47:060:47:09

Another woman who encapsulates the grit and determination needed

0:47:110:47:15

to face the realities of a life in the Armed Forces

0:47:150:47:18

is Olympian Dame Kelly Holmes.

0:47:180:47:20

Before she became one of Britain's greatest ever sporting heroes,

0:47:220:47:26

Kelly had a career with the Women's Royal Army Corps.

0:47:260:47:29

I felt that by going in the military

0:47:320:47:34

it had given me a bit of identity, something different.

0:47:340:47:37

I didn't want to stay just at home.

0:47:370:47:39

I wanted to feel that I could achieve something,

0:47:390:47:42

meet new people, travel, and possibly toughen up a little bit.

0:47:420:47:46

Kelly joined up at the end of the 1980s,

0:47:480:47:51

a decade that saw war in the Falkland Islands

0:47:510:47:54

and the Troubles in Northern Ireland

0:47:540:47:56

demanding strong military involvement.

0:47:560:47:58

It was a time of huge political and social change,

0:48:000:48:03

and as a result of amendments to employment practice,

0:48:030:48:06

the percentage of women entering the Armed Forces doubled.

0:48:060:48:09

But adjusting to life in uniform came with its challenges

0:48:120:48:15

for a young Kelly Holmes.

0:48:150:48:18

So I got my first beret when I joined the Women's Royal Army Corps.

0:48:180:48:21

I had a big Afro then,

0:48:210:48:23

so you can imagine trying to get an Afro into that little cap.

0:48:230:48:26

So, yeah, I never looked that cool, really, I have to say.

0:48:260:48:29

But I'll keep hold of that forever.

0:48:290:48:32

It's nearly 30 years since Kelly joined the force,

0:48:330:48:37

and today she's come to the army training centre in Pirbright

0:48:370:48:39

to meet its newest recruits.

0:48:390:48:43

She's eager to see just how different things are from her day.

0:48:430:48:46

Her first stop, the dormitories.

0:48:480:48:51

Show us your sleeves.

0:48:510:48:53

Do you still use starch, or are you not allowed?

0:48:530:48:55

-We're not allowed to use starch yet.

-OK. But we do the soap method.

0:48:550:48:59

Look at that, razor-sharp, that is. Razor-sharp.

0:48:590:49:02

But some things have changed.

0:49:040:49:06

When Kelly trained in the late 1980s,

0:49:060:49:08

she slept on a women-only base.

0:49:080:49:10

Now the boys are just one floor below.

0:49:100:49:13

What's your perception of women in the army?

0:49:130:49:15

-Do you think it's a good thing?

-Yeah, yeah, really good.

0:49:150:49:17

-Should, shouldn't?

-Something that I've noticed is

0:49:170:49:20

they're a lot more organised than we are!

0:49:200:49:23

You know, when the girls get told to, sort of,

0:49:230:49:26

do this over the weekend, do this, do this,

0:49:260:49:29

it gets to Monday, everything's done.

0:49:290:49:31

And we're all a bit like, "We forgot to do this."

0:49:310:49:33

And do you think it's good that women now

0:49:330:49:36

have a chance to pretty much do any role in the army,

0:49:360:49:39

where before they maybe didn't?

0:49:390:49:41

I think it comes down to the individual.

0:49:410:49:43

I think there's some women that are a lot stronger than some men.

0:49:430:49:45

That's a very mature approach.

0:49:450:49:47

Good luck for the parade, and good luck for your careers.

0:49:470:49:50

-ALL:

-Thank you.

-All right, take care.

0:49:500:49:52

Very nice.

0:49:520:49:54

Kelly qualified as a physical training instructor in 1991.

0:49:560:50:01

A year later, the women's service merged with the army.

0:50:010:50:04

For Kelly, it meant additional training, this time alongside men.

0:50:040:50:09

When I did mine, There was around 30 of us.

0:50:130:50:15

There was about 25 guys and five women.

0:50:150:50:17

I was the only woman that passed,

0:50:170:50:18

and there was only two or three guys that passed.

0:50:180:50:21

Very, very hard. And there was no concession for women,

0:50:210:50:25

which I think is right. But that meant, you know,

0:50:250:50:27

it was pretty tough to reach the standards.

0:50:270:50:29

And I just made sure I trained really hard to pass it,

0:50:290:50:32

because it was something that I wanted to do,

0:50:320:50:34

and also I wanted to prove I was as good as the guys.

0:50:340:50:37

To find out how much of her own training Kelly still remembers,

0:50:380:50:41

she's back in the trademark blue jacket of an army PT instructor.

0:50:410:50:45

Can everybody see the tree line over there?

0:50:460:50:48

-ALL: Yes, Sav.

-Go get me a leaf and bring it back.

0:50:480:50:50

Let's go. Off you go.

0:50:500:50:52

Don't be last!

0:50:540:50:56

Keep moving. Get rid of your leaf, get rid of your leaf,

0:50:580:51:00

get rid of your leaf, get rid of your leaf. Good effort.

0:51:000:51:03

Show me your leaf. Keep your feet moving.

0:51:030:51:05

Keep your feet moving, that's good. Going to start off by jogging.

0:51:050:51:08

Yourself... Peel off, everybody else follow on.

0:51:080:51:10

Let's go. Nice little square.

0:51:100:51:12

I love this. I love being back.

0:51:120:51:15

No, it's really cool.

0:51:160:51:18

I think you've got to have a lot of guts as a young girl

0:51:180:51:21

coming in the military now.

0:51:210:51:23

You know, perception of military, perception of females,

0:51:230:51:29

would they come out butch, what do they look like?

0:51:290:51:31

You know, these girls are breaking the mould,

0:51:310:51:33

and I feel that's brilliant.

0:51:330:51:36

That's good, well done, keep your bums down.

0:51:360:51:39

Kelly's full of admiration for these young women,

0:51:390:51:42

and she's even more impressed with

0:51:420:51:44

how their basic training has changed.

0:51:440:51:47

Because now, unlike in her day, over a 14-week period,

0:51:470:51:51

they'll experience the same gruelling training

0:51:510:51:54

as any male recruit.

0:51:540:51:55

Hard, fast and aggressive, let's go!

0:51:560:52:00

Go! Let's move!

0:52:000:52:02

Move!

0:52:020:52:03

Learning to fight...

0:52:050:52:07

Ready? Fire.

0:52:070:52:09

OK, rifle fire's away,

0:52:110:52:12

rifle fire's right, rifle stops.

0:52:120:52:14

..and survive on the battlefield.

0:52:150:52:17

What I'd like you to do in your pairs, work out where you are.

0:52:170:52:22

What's nice is that you're seeing the men and the women side by side.

0:52:220:52:26

I just love their attitude and positive thinking

0:52:260:52:30

around the fact that we just want to be the best we can be,

0:52:300:52:33

we don't want to be discriminated against.

0:52:330:52:36

But more heart-warming was the men saying

0:52:360:52:38

women should be given as much opportunities.

0:52:380:52:40

I thought that was great.

0:52:400:52:43

Before Kelly became an army physical instructor,

0:52:430:52:46

she trained as a heavy goods vehicle driver.

0:52:460:52:49

I used to drive these.

0:52:490:52:51

Double the clutch and all of that.

0:52:510:52:53

I was lucky I'd passed my driving test

0:52:550:52:57

before I joined the military, though, so I had one step ahead.

0:52:570:53:00

As far back as the First World War,

0:53:020:53:04

women were recruited as mechanics and drivers.

0:53:040:53:07

But fast forward 70 years,

0:53:080:53:10

and they're now in training to take control of

0:53:100:53:12

the army's most powerful piece of kit, a tank.

0:53:120:53:15

Something Kelly would have jumped at had she been given half the chance

0:53:170:53:21

during the time she served.

0:53:210:53:23

-I'm so excited about this bit.

-That's good.

0:53:230:53:25

-Obviously in my era, women didn't drive tanks.

-That's correct.

0:53:250:53:29

But now we've got sort of the first generation of women coming through.

0:53:290:53:32

-What do you think about that?

-I think it's a good thing.

0:53:320:53:34

We need to move with the times and everything else,

0:53:340:53:37

and as long as they can do the job,

0:53:370:53:38

they're more than welcome to have a go.

0:53:380:53:40

-OK, so, do you want to show me round?

-Yep, certainly. OK.

0:53:400:53:43

He's part of the team that will be training the new recruits to operate

0:53:430:53:46

the Challenger 2 tank.

0:53:460:53:48

So you could be on these for a long time, right, if you're out?

0:53:490:53:52

Yep, you can be in these for up to about ten to 12 hours.

0:53:520:53:56

So what happens in terms of, I mean, practical stuff?

0:53:560:53:59

We do have a toilet onboard, and we also have a kettle as well,

0:53:590:54:03

-which we can put our rations into.

-So excited.

0:54:030:54:06

You know, this is a tank. This is a Challenger 2 tank!

0:54:060:54:09

We're standing on top of it. I mean, really!

0:54:090:54:12

And just hats off to all the guys and then eventually girls

0:54:120:54:15

that are going to be using these in those situations.

0:54:150:54:19

-Main up?

-Yep.

-Guns live.

0:54:210:54:25

Each tank requires a four-person crew...

0:54:270:54:30

Everyone good?

0:54:300:54:33

..a driver, a weapons loader, a gunner,

0:54:330:54:36

and today, Kelly Holmes as commander.

0:54:360:54:39

The tank can reach a top speed of up to 31mph,

0:54:530:54:56

and with a combat weight of a hefty 70 tonnes,

0:54:560:54:59

it's not wise for any enemy infantry to get too close.

0:54:590:55:03

The main armament on the tank can hit the target

0:55:050:55:08

from up to 5km away.

0:55:080:55:10

Kelly, lean forward.

0:55:120:55:14

If you lean forward, Kelly, we'll get it to flop over!

0:55:140:55:17

KELLY LAUGHS

0:55:170:55:19

Kelly has fulfilled a lifelong ambition

0:55:240:55:26

to command a Challenger 2 tank.

0:55:260:55:28

It was really good. It's just fascinating.

0:55:280:55:31

There's four people in there. If you've got one woman, three guys,

0:55:310:55:33

and you are in a confined area for a long time, I mean,

0:55:330:55:35

you're always going to have banter, but at the end of the day,

0:55:350:55:38

I think as we've discovered through doing this programme,

0:55:380:55:41

if you want to do the job, you go there to do the job well,

0:55:410:55:44

and that's what you think of first and foremost.

0:55:440:55:46

And your crew are your crew,

0:55:460:55:48

it doesn't really matter whether they're male or female.

0:55:480:55:50

I can see a lot of women wanting to do that.

0:55:500:55:55

It was a lot of fun, I have to say.

0:55:550:55:58

It broadens your mind.

0:56:000:56:02

You stick up for yourself.

0:56:020:56:03

You start being independent,

0:56:030:56:06

and them sort of things.

0:56:060:56:08

I mean, in the three years that I was in the forces,

0:56:080:56:10

I did everything I wanted.

0:56:100:56:12

And it was fantastic.

0:56:120:56:14

I enjoyed every single minute of it.

0:56:140:56:16

I just wanted to make something of myself.

0:56:160:56:18

I didn't want to just stay at home and say I'd just get a job

0:56:180:56:22

in a factory. I'd done that, and, you know,

0:56:220:56:25

I wanted to make something of myself.

0:56:250:56:27

From Land Girls to nurses, from radar operators to drivers,

0:56:310:56:35

every woman who has served has played a crucial part

0:56:350:56:38

in the contribution women have made to

0:56:380:56:41

Britain's Armed Forces over a century of service.

0:56:410:56:45

I suppose looking back, being in the Wrens did enrich my life in a way.

0:56:450:56:51

I never really realised it.

0:56:510:56:54

There was a freedom about it.

0:56:540:56:56

And comparing it with today,

0:56:560:56:59

they also find that it enriches their lives,

0:56:590:57:02

these people who are no longer Wrens,

0:57:020:57:05

who are just part of the Navy.

0:57:050:57:07

It did enrich my life.

0:57:090:57:11

We were cosseted. We were kept in a safe environment.

0:57:110:57:14

But these women are out on the front line,

0:57:140:57:17

and I feel a tremendous admiration for them.

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To be here and to see Mum get her medal,

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I feel that she kind of represents so many women

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and what they did and what they believed in,

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and how their role in the Armed Forces

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has became absolutely indispensable.

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I don't think the desire to serve,

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the sense of commitment to duty has changed today.

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So of course I admire the women service personnel here,

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who none of them will speak about what they've done, particularly,

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but who will have done very remarkable things

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in very difficult and dangerous circumstances.

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And I feel nothing but huge admiration...

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..for them.

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To go, "Do you know what? I can do anything I want to do."

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And that, I think, is something that

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you're just pleased that society's moved in the right direction.

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It just gives us a chance to be who we want to be

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and to work as hard as we can, and to be proud of what we achieve.

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Come on!

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