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Britain's Empty Homes has been on a mission to show what can be done

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to revitalise and transform

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some of the UK's estimated one million empty properties.

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-Good to see you again. How are you?

-I'm very well, thank you.

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In this series, I'll be catching up

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with some of the people who took the plunge

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and staked everything

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on turning unloved houses into bespoke family homes.

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Today, we'll be catching up with a couple from an earlier series

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who were inspired to take on an abandoned property

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after we showed them some of Britain's empty homes.

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-Your wish came true?

-It did, and I love it.

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We'll also be catching up with the empty property officers

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who dedicate themselves to turning abandoned abodes

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back into usable homes.

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-Wow! Look at this space.

-It's beautiful, isn't it?

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And we'll see the results of a project to equip apprentices

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with the unique skills needed to restore and preserve listed buildings.

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Great to see the success one young chap has got out of it.

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It's great news.

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Nearly 18 months ago, I met Catherine and Andrew Ingram

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who'd fallen for a dilapidated four-bedroom mock Tudor house,

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but the love affair was short-lived.

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Andrew and Catherine were newlyweds when they bought

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this 1930s' house in Bognor Regis, West Sussex.

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The house was empty for almost a year, practically untouched.

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When they clapped eyes on it, it was love at first sight.

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We pulled up outside and walked up the driveway,

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and I just knew it was the right property.

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In this sought-after location, prices can run into the millions.

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A&E crew member Andrew and staff nurse Catherine

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snapped it up for £425,000.

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They wanted to update the interior whilst maintaining its original character.

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If we keep a mix between the authentic, with a twist of modern,

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it's going to be an amazing house, and do it justice.

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The couple had a tight renovation budget of £70,000.

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After a fall-out with one builder,

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they were determined to keep costs down.

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It'll be re-roofed, re-plumbed, re-electric'd.

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The garden will eventually be done, that's the last thing on our list.

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-We're hoping to move in in six months.

-If all goes well.

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When I first met up with Andrew and Catherine,

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I was eager to hear more about their plans.

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-My wife, Catherine.

-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

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-Right...

-Yes, exactly! This is it!

-Yes! This was the third house we saw,

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and I just fell in love with it - we went inside, and it was amazing.

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-We should go and have a look. Lead the way.

-Thank you.

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Wow! So, this is a lovely, big room. This is your main reception room?

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Yes. I presume it was a dining room cum front room at one stage.

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-Fantastic.

-Yes, it's triple aspect, going round to the side there.

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-And the proper old beams really stand out.

-Yes, they are superb.

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-Are these things you want to bring out?

-Oh, totally.

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I want to enhance the existing woodwork, not over-modernise it

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but keep a blend between the authentic arts and crafts of the period

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with obviously modern fixtures and fittings.

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How much are you planning to do yourselves?

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Do you both want to get stuck in, with your full-time jobs?

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-You've been awake all night as a staff nurse...

-That's right.

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-How much can you do yourselves?

-Within reason, you know,

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the lumping and lifting of stuff, clearing of rubble.

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But the electricians, plumbers etc, we let them get on.

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Will you project manage it yourself?

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It can seem a lot of money to get someone to manage it,

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but in terms of keeping it on schedule and on track

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and on budget, it can be money well spent - have you considered it?

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Yes and no. I am very fussy,

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and would like to check every detail myself,

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-so, within reason, we might as well do it ourselves.

-Right.

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'I wanted to see what building work had already been done.'

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-The kitchen is more of a building site...

-It looks like that, sure.

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'After a fall-out with their builder,

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'things had ground to a halt.'

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-We were too keen, we wanted to get on and see something happen.

-Yeah.

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But it's not gone smoothly in here.

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Upstairs, the work hadn't even begun.'

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Wow! This...is huge!

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That's a massive bedroom.

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-Huge bedroom.

-Then we come out into... What is this exactly?

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-This is the en-suite sun room.

-The en-suite sun room!

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Another quirky feature of such a characterful house.

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-My yoga spot.

-Yoga spot. So, this will be the master bedroom.

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-Yes.

-With a great fireplace. And overall, your main worries,

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will it come down to money?

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Ultimately everything boils down to money, that's the biggest constraint

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on any desire or vision you have for anything, really.

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-Yes, money - and also, as you said, getting the right builder.

-Mmm.

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-I'm glad you're worried about it as well!

-I hide it!

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'Andrew and Catherine have busy lives, working unpredictable hours

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'and now had a complex renovation on their hands.

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'Later we'll see what happened when I took them to meet a couple

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'who turned a similar building project into their dream home.'

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It is hopeful. There is light at the end of the tunnel!

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Throughout the country,

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it's not just private buyers like Andrew and Catherine

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rising to the challenge of turning deserted properties into unique homes.

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Local council empty property officers work tirelessly

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to track down the owners of abandoned houses and do everything

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within their power to bring these places back into circulation.

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18 months ago, we went to Thanet in Kent

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to meet empty property officer Mike Thompson.

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He was a man on a mission to save the coastal region's many forgotten homes.

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The Government sets targets of building thousands and thousands

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of new homes and there's all these properties laying empty

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wanting to be brought back into use.

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I retire in just under 12 months and it's my mission in life

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to leave a legacy of my work behind me.

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There were 3,000 empty buildings across Kent for Mike to deal with.

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Behind every empty property is a story

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and it's a story I like to get to know.

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The growth of package holidays in the 1980s left its mark on our seaside towns.

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As Brits went abroad, once-splendid hotels fell empty.

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Mike's focus was on the building

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that had once stood proudly on this site,

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that was now boarded up.

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I'm on my way now to the former Warren Court hotel,

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where we've come up with a radical solution

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to save the beautiful frontages,

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and I'm here today to meet the architect and the developer

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to see the sort of progress they're making.

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Originally a school, it was turned into the Warren Court Hotel

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at the height of Margate's tourism boom.

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The hotel closed down in 2002

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and had been vacant ever since.

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A magnet for vandals and drug users,

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and subjected to two arson attacks, this vermin-infested property

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had become a health hazard to its neighbours.

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Mike and the Kent Council made a compulsory purchase

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of the building and were working with a local developer

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to regenerate the area and create quality social housing.

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This was an extremely ambitious project,

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as all that remained was the Warren Court facade.

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So what have we got here then, Tanya?

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Well, this is the proposed plan for the site.

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The regeneration project

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included the building next door to The Warren Court,

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which was also being completely rebuilt.

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We obviously have the front terrace,

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and then we've got the terrace of three units,

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and obviously the rear garden to the dwellings.

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The most ambitious part of the scheme

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involved the area behind the hotel.

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This was going to be transformed with a complete terrace of houses,

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built to provide affordable homes.

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To actually get your hands on a project of this magnitude

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and bring something of real benefit to the community,

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providing 20 family homes is really exciting,

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and something I'm really proud to have hung my hat on.

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It's the icing on the cake for me.

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18 months later, Mike Thompson's hung his hat up for the last time,

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and retired from his job.

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But his shoes have been filled

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by the equally tenacious Andrew Emerson.

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Today, Andrew's come to Margate

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to check up on the ambitious Warren Court project.

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The finished development looks spectacular,

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and is a fitting tribute to his predecessor's hard work.

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Morning, Bob. How are you doing?

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-Very good, very good.

-Look at this!

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Bob Heapy oversaw the intricate construction work

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needed to bring these buildings back to their former glory.

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How hard was it to actually keep the facades, Bob?

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Yeah, from an engineering perspective, it was quite difficult.

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It would, of course, been a lot easier to knock things down

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and start again, but we wanted to ensure that we were, you know,

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complying with the conservation area.

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And the plans for the new terrace at the back of the hotel

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have come magnificently to life.

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Designed to complement the surrounding period buildings,

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this row of houses looks like it's been there from the start.

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To get the three-storey townhouses again,

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looking very much like the existing properties in the square.

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You know, it just brings it all together.

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12 new homes have been created on the terrace,

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and Andrew's been invited to take a look round one of them.

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I've never been inside them before,

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so I'm very, very excited to get inside.

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I know they've been done to a very high standard,

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but it's going to be an absolute treat to get inside the building

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and see what the actual interior finishes are like.

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This development provides affordable housing for local families.

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-Hi, Lesley?

-Hi!

-Hi, I'm Andy from Thanet Council.

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Lesley Clark spent 20 years on the council waiting list.

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Wow, look at this space!

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It's beautiful, isn't it?

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Yeah, look at the high ceilings. That's unbelievable.

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Lesley's children have had to move

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from one privately-rented flat to another, all their lives.

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What were the living arrangements like at your previous place?

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My son was sleeping on the sofa downstairs,

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which wasn't an ideal arrangement.

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It was very dark, compared to this with the high ceilings

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and the lovely light and space.

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We couldn't have asked for anything more. It's beautiful here.

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The family only moved in four weeks ago,

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but already feel like part of the neighbourhood.

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We've finally settled now.

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At last, this is going to be our family home now.

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The original buildings here were built when Margate

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was first coming into vogue as a holiday destination.

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Now, more than 100 years later,

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their renaissance is having a positive effect

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on the whole community.

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That was absolutely amazing.

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Before, it was a piece of grass with some burnt-out buildings on it,

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and what we've got is a quality family development.

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And to come back and actually see

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a building which fits in with the conservation area,

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in keeping with the existing buildings around here,

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is absolutely terrific.

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Converting any property can be a tough task,

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and the pains, stresses, and costs can all mount up,

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particularly with an old, abandoned building.

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However, when you speak to people who have been through it,

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they'll tell you the long hours, the sleepless nights,

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the hard work, are all worth it in the end.

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But that's something Andrew and Karen Smith

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would have found hard to believe

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when they first saw this 500-year-old cowshed in North Wales.

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We've always liked the idea of renovating somewhere,

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a barn conversion, that type of project.

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And we looked on the internet,

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and this came up under "Wreck of the Week."

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And it certainly was.

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It was terrible. We looked at it and thought,

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"You must be mad to do something like that!"

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But we came along and had a look,

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-and it was a beautiful sunny day, wasn't it?

-Yeah.

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It was lovely, and there was a magic about the place

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that just caught us, and we just found ourselves saying,

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"Wouldn't it be fantastic if we could make this liveable?

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"Wouldn't it be fantastic if we could bring this back to life?"

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You could see the potential.

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You know, you could imagine a patio out there,

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and gin and tonics overlooking the bay.

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It was just... you had to have the vision,

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but we could both see that we could do something with it.

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They bought the property for £205,000,

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and spent a further £250,000 renovating it.

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It took 16 months of hard graft,

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but they now have this stunning three-bed house.

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Our key was to keep it as traditional as we possibly could,

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and not have it look like, you know,

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a modern glass and steel building

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with views over the bays.

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We wanted it to look like it should have looked

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and be a traditional build.

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It's fantastic we've still got the original brickwork

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and big stones that were put up 500 years ago.

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You know, it's awesome, really.

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Our input into the building

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has been very much one of project management.

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We haven't, you know, got our hands dirty

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putting walls up and woodwork up.

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But when you're going to be living in it yourself,

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you need to be able to change things,

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if they're not quite right,

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and because we project managed it quite closely,

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we were able to do that.

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I think it's important, life is so frantic for most of us,

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and rightly so, in times...

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If you've got a dream, you should go for it.

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The worst that can happen is it fails, but at least you've tried.

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If you don't try, you'll never know.

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Earlier in the programme, we met Catherine and Andrew Ingram,

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who've started renovations on their quirky 1930s house.

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The couple had already experienced delays, and were a little anxious

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about how best to manage this complex renovation.

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To inspire Andrew and Catherine,

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I took them to meet Clare and Matt Pascoe,

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who'd taken on a tired-looking empty property

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and used their trade expertise to create their perfect family home.

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Clare, an interior designer

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and her husband Matt, an electrician,

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live with their young family in Oving, West Sussex.

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In 2009, the Pascoes bought this dilapidated, vacant,

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three-bedroom house for £435,000.

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The reason the house appealed to us

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was that it would have been out of our league,

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had it been fully renovated already.

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It was quite dated and run down.

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It was just very tired, but you could clearly see

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it was spacious and could be fantastic.

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Clare and Matt were able to draw

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on their own skills and experience to complete the build.

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Even so, they struggled through a harsh winter

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and the birth of their second child to finish the project.

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We weren't nervous about doing it. We were quite excited about it,

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but it was definitely more stressful as time went on

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and more of the money got spent, with still plenty of work to do.

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Even as an interior designer with 12 years' experience,

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I still felt the pressure to get in before Christmas.

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Normally I'd be advising clients to relax, these are the lead times,

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these are the processes and don't try and push the team. I didn't follow my own advice at all!

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Despite the pressures of managing their own build, the Pascoes have transformed and extended

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this once empty house into a spacious and spectacular home.

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All this work was done for under 70 grand.

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We've certainly added value to the property.

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That wasn't the motive for setting out to refurbish the house.

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It was to make a family home that we could bring our children up in,

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a lovely garden, village location. It was the whole package.

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Hello, Matt, Clare. Hi.

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-Can we come in and have a look?

-Yes, come on in.

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This renovation may have held different challenges,

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but it was similar in scale to the Ingrams' place.

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-The master bedroom.

-Beautiful.

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Nice colours.

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I wanted Andrew and Catherine to see

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how two renovation specialists

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had managed their big construction project.

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Wow, look at this, it just opens up as soon as you come around.

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What state was this in when you took on the property?

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This room didn't exist. This is all the extension that we did.

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-This was an exterior wall, was it?

-It was.

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-All extension, going that way?

-Yes.

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How would you advise these guys?

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They're both health professionals, not contractors or builders.

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How did you go about finding the right people that you trust?

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Word of mouth, if you can.

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Try and get some recommendations, maybe see some of their work

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and try and get somebody you can get on with. It's going to take a while.

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It's a long haul and they're under your feet the whole time.

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-Yes, communication's important.

-You've got to get on with them.

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-Get the right balance.

-Being able to talk.

-Sure.

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That's one of my concerns for you two, you're both busy and have full-time jobs

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and it's about being there enough.

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How important is it to be around if you're a project manager, or, if not

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to try and employ someone who can be?

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It's nice to keep involved and know what's happening, to be involved in decisions.

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The builders on site will need a quick turnaround.

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Sometimes when you're in the middle of a building project, the floors are up

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and the plaster's down, it's difficult to see the way forward.

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How useful is it seeing a stage forward? You're dealing with exposed concrete floors,

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-and to see a finished project, is lovely.

-It is hopeful.

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-There is light at the end of the tunnel.

-Good, good.

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Guys, thank you for that.

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-Sharing your house, opening it up to us to have a look around.

-Pleasure.

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Later we'll find out if Andrew and Catherine were able

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to put the advice they'd heard into practice

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and turn their 1930s home into the perfect period property.

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Whatever the age of your building,

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restoring an empty home can be a richly rewarding experience.

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But when it comes to preserving historic houses,

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it requires not just a sympathetic eye, but a skilled hand.

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Britain is full of homes that date back centuries.

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Maintaining and renovating them is highly specialist work.

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The trouble is, there aren't enough people out there

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who are skilled enough in the traditional crafts needed

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to ensure these buildings' preservation.

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12 months ago, I went to Berkshire

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to find out about a training initiative

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being run to address this problem.

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I spoke to Paul Simons,

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chair of the National Heritage Training Group.

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Start at the beginning.

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What are the key differences between historic heritage building

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and modern buildings?

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The biggest difference is the change of materials being used.

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Old buildings breathe.

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Basically, that meant the vast majority of the material you were

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using was porous - soft brick,

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local stone, lime mortars and plaster.

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It naturally lets water pass through it and evaporate.

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When we look at these older materials and older techniques,

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surely it's a whole different skill base that comes with that?

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Is that right?

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Well, there's a vast range of skills if you start to think about it,

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from the traditional timber framers, wattle and daub, lime,

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traditional plasters.

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The roof might be clay tile, a thatch, and all these materials

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need different skills, different abilities,

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to be able to work with them properly and get a quality job.

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So how important is it we keep learning these skills

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and keep reinterpreting them?

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It's absolutely vital we get young people

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to train on historic buildings,

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because the other worrying aspect of craftsmanship

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in historic buildings is the age profile.

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Most craftsmen are over 50 already.

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Where can people go if they want to learn the skills?

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English Heritage and Construction Skills set up

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the National Heritage Training group,

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so we have qualifications available for heritage skills

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from NVQ level III upwards,

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and employers have got incentives to take on young people now

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and put them through these heritage qualifications,

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and we've got to get more young people on these training courses.

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For the apprentices Paul takes on,

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it's an opportunity to learn crafts which have been eclipsed

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by modern building techniques and are in danger of being forgotten.

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Now, you're at two different stages, right?

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First of all, Sam, how far have you got in your training?

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Well, I did three years at college on modern buildings and stuff,

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and after I finished that, I came down here.

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I've gone from making stuff from new timbers

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to just repairing timbers, say, 100 years old and stuff,

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so it's a lot different.

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Chris, what about you? Where are you in your training?

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I've been working here for just over six months now,

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and I'm really enjoying it. It's really good.

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I love the history side of it and old school techniques.

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If you had to say, what is the best part of this job,

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the job you're training for?

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Seeing the building being taken down and being put up again repaired,

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being brought back to life.

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-That's what I love.

-Well, guys, good luck with it.

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Thank you for taking some time off to chat to me today.

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-That's all right.

-All the best.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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Now, one year later,

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Paul Simons' training scheme has really taken off.

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Over 200 apprentices have been placed with artisan builders

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around the country. And Rob Blaine is one of them.

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He spent six months on the National Heritage Training Scheme

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getting to grips with the ancient craft of lime plastering.

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And today Paul Simons has come to Oxford to see how he's getting on.

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-That's how I put it on.

-And that's going on like butter.

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-It's looking lovely, Rob.

-Thank you very much.

-And there's good news.

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Rob's proved such a dab hand, he's been offered a permanent job.

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It's nice to get on, I suppose, almost the vanguard of conservation

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in general, and it's great working with natural materials.

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You're never going to earn millions of pounds from it.

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You're there because of the love of the old buildings themselves.

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Lime plastering is very important.

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It's not just putting plaster on a wall, it's the mixing,

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it's selecting the lime, it's getting the right colour,

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the right sands, all that was explained to Rob,

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he's picked all that up very quickly,

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and it'll be useful knowledge for the rest of his working career.

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Great to see one success story,

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what one young chap has got out of it.

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It's great news.

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Earlier in the programme, we met a couple who were planning

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a major renovation on their unusual period home in West Sussex.

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It was an ambitious project, particularly for two people

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with full-time jobs working unpredictable hours.

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Here I am back in Bognor Regis

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to catch up with Andrew and Catherine Ingram.

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Now, when I first met them, work on this beautiful

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1930s arts and crafts house

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had pretty much slowed to a standstill,

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so I'm intrigued to see how far they've got.

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The couple have been living here for six months,

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but has the building site been replaced by an art deco delight?

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-Hello.

-Hey, guys. How are you?

-Come on in.

-Thank you.

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Andrew, good to see you. Hi, Catherine. How are you?

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-Good to see you.

-Bright and lovely day.

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-Would you like to come this way?

-Yeah, that would be great.

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Shoes off. This is very cosy. Looking good.

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You have completely done it, haven't you? Really nice, yeah.

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-Plenty of changes.

-Yes, certainly has been.

-Lots been going on.

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Last time we were tiptoeing through this space

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around building work, so what's been going on?

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This floor has all been dug up for a start,

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in this room in particular, for the underground heating.

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The floor in there is oak flooring now,

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-which has been restored.

-That was one of the last things we had done,

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because we've had all the rooms re-plastered.

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-Right.

-And all professionally decorated and painted.

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I thought, "You have to start from the roof down,

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-"and from the outside in."

-Yeah.

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So we did the roof first and then the windows.

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For the last year, Andrew has been busy

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sourcing original 1930s furniture,

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and this home is the perfect showcase for his collection.

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Do you have a favourite item in your living room or downstairs?

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-Well, I can have two.

-You can have two. Go on.

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One is my 1937 toilet.

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-One is my 1940s cabinet over there on the wall.

-Oh, lovely.

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Do you have any favourites?

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Do you approve of any of these in particular?

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-I love my birthday present.

-What was your birthday present?

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-It was the halberd that's hanging up there.

-You got a spear?

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-I've got a spear.

-That's an unusual birthday present.

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Don't mess with me!

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THEY LAUGH

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Last time I was here, things had sort of ground to a halt

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-in the kitchen...

-Mmm-hmm.

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So I'm curious to see what's happened there.

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-Shall we have a look?

-Let's have a look.

-After you.

-Thank you.

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-Aha. Now, last time I came in here, I had to step down.

-You did.

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-But suddenly the floor has come up.

-Yes.

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Building work on this room was delayed

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when their first attempt at laying the concrete floor didn't go too smoothly.

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We started afresh, digging the whole floor out again

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-after they laid all the concrete.

-It came out again?

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-It came out again.

-You had to start all over?

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But, anyway, as you can see now,

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we've got under-floor heating in here with the reclaimed tiles.

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It's just pacing it financially now.

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Is it? So you're going to have to wait a bit until the next stage?

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-Yeah.

-Yeah, sure.

-We're saving up to do the kitchen,

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but it also gives plenty of time to think about what you really want

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and where you actually want things.

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-Let's take a look upstairs, shall we?

-Yeah, brilliant.

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Well, this is fantastic. It's really come together.

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'Upstairs, the arts and crafts feel

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'has made way for a tranquil space for meditation.'

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And we are standing in your...

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-My yoga room.

-Your yoga room. Your wish came true.

-It did.

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-And I love it.

-Yeah, how does it feel,

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doing yoga in here as, probably, the sun streams through?

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It's relaxing. It's my space.

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-And the wood features in your bedroom really stand out, don't they?

-Mmm.

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Yeah. Well, look, downstairs feels complete, as does the bedroom.

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-It's really, really nice to see, so many congratulations...

-Thank you.

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..on getting it to this point. Good luck with the rest of it,

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-but I'm sure before long, you'll be there. So best wishes.

-Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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This is a lovely place, and it's also a very, very unique house,

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and I'm really impressed with the way that Catherine and Andrew

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have been able to revive its character -

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Andrew with his eye for detail, for arts and crafts,

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1930s little set pieces,

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but Catherine also with the warmth that she brings to the project.

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They've been really determined

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and they've been very confident in what they want,

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and they've got to this point. They are so close now,

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and I know this house is going to be everything they want it to be.

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