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Britain's Empty Homes has been on a mission to show what can be done | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
to revitalise and transform | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
some of the UK's estimated one million empty properties. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
-Good to see you again. How are you? -I'm very well, thank you. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
In this series, I'll be catching up | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
with some of the people who took the plunge | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
and staked everything | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
on turning unloved houses into bespoke family homes. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
Today, we'll be catching up with a couple from an earlier series | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
who were inspired to take on an abandoned property | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
after we showed them some of Britain's empty homes. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
-Your wish came true? -It did, and I love it. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
We'll also be catching up with the empty property officers | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
who dedicate themselves to turning abandoned abodes | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
back into usable homes. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-Wow! Look at this space. -It's beautiful, isn't it? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
And we'll see the results of a project to equip apprentices | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
with the unique skills needed to restore and preserve listed buildings. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Great to see the success one young chap has got out of it. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
It's great news. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
Nearly 18 months ago, I met Catherine and Andrew Ingram | 0:01:03 | 0:01:09 | |
who'd fallen for a dilapidated four-bedroom mock Tudor house, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
but the love affair was short-lived. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:13 | |
Andrew and Catherine were newlyweds when they bought | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
this 1930s' house in Bognor Regis, West Sussex. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
The house was empty for almost a year, practically untouched. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
When they clapped eyes on it, it was love at first sight. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
We pulled up outside and walked up the driveway, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
and I just knew it was the right property. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
In this sought-after location, prices can run into the millions. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
A&E crew member Andrew and staff nurse Catherine | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
snapped it up for £425,000. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
They wanted to update the interior whilst maintaining its original character. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:58 | |
If we keep a mix between the authentic, with a twist of modern, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
it's going to be an amazing house, and do it justice. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
The couple had a tight renovation budget of £70,000. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
After a fall-out with one builder, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
they were determined to keep costs down. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
It'll be re-roofed, re-plumbed, re-electric'd. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
The garden will eventually be done, that's the last thing on our list. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
-We're hoping to move in in six months. -If all goes well. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
When I first met up with Andrew and Catherine, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
I was eager to hear more about their plans. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
-My wife, Catherine. -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
-Right... -Yes, exactly! This is it! -Yes! This was the third house we saw, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
and I just fell in love with it - we went inside, and it was amazing. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
-We should go and have a look. Lead the way. -Thank you. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
Wow! So, this is a lovely, big room. This is your main reception room? | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
Yes. I presume it was a dining room cum front room at one stage. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
-Fantastic. -Yes, it's triple aspect, going round to the side there. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
-And the proper old beams really stand out. -Yes, they are superb. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
-Are these things you want to bring out? -Oh, totally. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
I want to enhance the existing woodwork, not over-modernise it | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
but keep a blend between the authentic arts and crafts of the period | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
with obviously modern fixtures and fittings. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
How much are you planning to do yourselves? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Do you both want to get stuck in, with your full-time jobs? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
-You've been awake all night as a staff nurse... -That's right. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
-How much can you do yourselves? -Within reason, you know, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
the lumping and lifting of stuff, clearing of rubble. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
But the electricians, plumbers etc, we let them get on. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
Will you project manage it yourself? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
It can seem a lot of money to get someone to manage it, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
but in terms of keeping it on schedule and on track | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
and on budget, it can be money well spent - have you considered it? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Yes and no. I am very fussy, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
and would like to check every detail myself, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
-so, within reason, we might as well do it ourselves. -Right. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
'I wanted to see what building work had already been done.' | 0:04:16 | 0:04:22 | |
-The kitchen is more of a building site... -It looks like that, sure. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
'After a fall-out with their builder, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
'things had ground to a halt.' | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
-We were too keen, we wanted to get on and see something happen. -Yeah. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
But it's not gone smoothly in here. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Upstairs, the work hadn't even begun.' | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Wow! This...is huge! | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
That's a massive bedroom. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-Huge bedroom. -Then we come out into... What is this exactly? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
-This is the en-suite sun room. -The en-suite sun room! | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Another quirky feature of such a characterful house. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-My yoga spot. -Yoga spot. So, this will be the master bedroom. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
-Yes. -With a great fireplace. And overall, your main worries, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
will it come down to money? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Ultimately everything boils down to money, that's the biggest constraint | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
on any desire or vision you have for anything, really. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
-Yes, money - and also, as you said, getting the right builder. -Mmm. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
-I'm glad you're worried about it as well! -I hide it! | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
'Andrew and Catherine have busy lives, working unpredictable hours | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
'and now had a complex renovation on their hands. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
'Later we'll see what happened when I took them to meet a couple | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
'who turned a similar building project into their dream home.' | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
It is hopeful. There is light at the end of the tunnel! | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Throughout the country, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:46 | |
it's not just private buyers like Andrew and Catherine | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
rising to the challenge of turning deserted properties into unique homes. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Local council empty property officers work tirelessly | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
to track down the owners of abandoned houses and do everything | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
within their power to bring these places back into circulation. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
18 months ago, we went to Thanet in Kent | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
to meet empty property officer Mike Thompson. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
He was a man on a mission to save the coastal region's many forgotten homes. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
The Government sets targets of building thousands and thousands | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
of new homes and there's all these properties laying empty | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
wanting to be brought back into use. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
I retire in just under 12 months and it's my mission in life | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
to leave a legacy of my work behind me. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
There were 3,000 empty buildings across Kent for Mike to deal with. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
Behind every empty property is a story | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
and it's a story I like to get to know. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
The growth of package holidays in the 1980s left its mark on our seaside towns. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:48 | |
As Brits went abroad, once-splendid hotels fell empty. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Mike's focus was on the building | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
that had once stood proudly on this site, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
that was now boarded up. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
I'm on my way now to the former Warren Court hotel, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
where we've come up with a radical solution | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
to save the beautiful frontages, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
and I'm here today to meet the architect and the developer | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
to see the sort of progress they're making. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
Originally a school, it was turned into the Warren Court Hotel | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
at the height of Margate's tourism boom. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
The hotel closed down in 2002 | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
and had been vacant ever since. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
A magnet for vandals and drug users, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
and subjected to two arson attacks, this vermin-infested property | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
had become a health hazard to its neighbours. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
Mike and the Kent Council made a compulsory purchase | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
of the building and were working with a local developer | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
to regenerate the area and create quality social housing. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
This was an extremely ambitious project, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
as all that remained was the Warren Court facade. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
So what have we got here then, Tanya? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Well, this is the proposed plan for the site. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
The regeneration project | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
included the building next door to The Warren Court, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
which was also being completely rebuilt. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
We obviously have the front terrace, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
and then we've got the terrace of three units, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
and obviously the rear garden to the dwellings. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
The most ambitious part of the scheme | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
involved the area behind the hotel. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
This was going to be transformed with a complete terrace of houses, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
built to provide affordable homes. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
To actually get your hands on a project of this magnitude | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and bring something of real benefit to the community, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
providing 20 family homes is really exciting, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
and something I'm really proud to have hung my hat on. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
It's the icing on the cake for me. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
18 months later, Mike Thompson's hung his hat up for the last time, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
and retired from his job. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
But his shoes have been filled | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
by the equally tenacious Andrew Emerson. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Today, Andrew's come to Margate | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
to check up on the ambitious Warren Court project. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
The finished development looks spectacular, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
and is a fitting tribute to his predecessor's hard work. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
Morning, Bob. How are you doing? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
-Very good, very good. -Look at this! | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Bob Heapy oversaw the intricate construction work | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
needed to bring these buildings back to their former glory. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
How hard was it to actually keep the facades, Bob? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Yeah, from an engineering perspective, it was quite difficult. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
It would, of course, been a lot easier to knock things down | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
and start again, but we wanted to ensure that we were, you know, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
complying with the conservation area. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
And the plans for the new terrace at the back of the hotel | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
have come magnificently to life. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Designed to complement the surrounding period buildings, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
this row of houses looks like it's been there from the start. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
To get the three-storey townhouses again, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
looking very much like the existing properties in the square. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
You know, it just brings it all together. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
12 new homes have been created on the terrace, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
and Andrew's been invited to take a look round one of them. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
I've never been inside them before, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
so I'm very, very excited to get inside. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I know they've been done to a very high standard, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
but it's going to be an absolute treat to get inside the building | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
and see what the actual interior finishes are like. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
This development provides affordable housing for local families. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
-Hi, Lesley? -Hi! -Hi, I'm Andy from Thanet Council. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Lesley Clark spent 20 years on the council waiting list. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Wow, look at this space! | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
It's beautiful, isn't it? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Yeah, look at the high ceilings. That's unbelievable. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Lesley's children have had to move | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
from one privately-rented flat to another, all their lives. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
What were the living arrangements like at your previous place? | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
My son was sleeping on the sofa downstairs, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
which wasn't an ideal arrangement. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
It was very dark, compared to this with the high ceilings | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
and the lovely light and space. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
We couldn't have asked for anything more. It's beautiful here. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
The family only moved in four weeks ago, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
but already feel like part of the neighbourhood. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
We've finally settled now. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
At last, this is going to be our family home now. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
The original buildings here were built when Margate | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
was first coming into vogue as a holiday destination. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Now, more than 100 years later, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
their renaissance is having a positive effect | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
on the whole community. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:17 | |
That was absolutely amazing. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
Before, it was a piece of grass with some burnt-out buildings on it, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
and what we've got is a quality family development. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
And to come back and actually see | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
a building which fits in with the conservation area, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
in keeping with the existing buildings around here, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
is absolutely terrific. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
Converting any property can be a tough task, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
and the pains, stresses, and costs can all mount up, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
particularly with an old, abandoned building. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
However, when you speak to people who have been through it, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
they'll tell you the long hours, the sleepless nights, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
the hard work, are all worth it in the end. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
But that's something Andrew and Karen Smith | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
would have found hard to believe | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
when they first saw this 500-year-old cowshed in North Wales. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
We've always liked the idea of renovating somewhere, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
a barn conversion, that type of project. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
And we looked on the internet, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
and this came up under "Wreck of the Week." | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
And it certainly was. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
It was terrible. We looked at it and thought, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
"You must be mad to do something like that!" | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
But we came along and had a look, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
-and it was a beautiful sunny day, wasn't it? -Yeah. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
It was lovely, and there was a magic about the place | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
that just caught us, and we just found ourselves saying, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
"Wouldn't it be fantastic if we could make this liveable? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
"Wouldn't it be fantastic if we could bring this back to life?" | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
You could see the potential. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
You know, you could imagine a patio out there, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
and gin and tonics overlooking the bay. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
It was just... you had to have the vision, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
but we could both see that we could do something with it. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
They bought the property for £205,000, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
and spent a further £250,000 renovating it. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
It took 16 months of hard graft, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
but they now have this stunning three-bed house. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
Our key was to keep it as traditional as we possibly could, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
and not have it look like, you know, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
a modern glass and steel building | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
with views over the bays. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
We wanted it to look like it should have looked | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
and be a traditional build. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
It's fantastic we've still got the original brickwork | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
and big stones that were put up 500 years ago. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
You know, it's awesome, really. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Our input into the building | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
has been very much one of project management. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
We haven't, you know, got our hands dirty | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
putting walls up and woodwork up. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
But when you're going to be living in it yourself, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
you need to be able to change things, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
if they're not quite right, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
and because we project managed it quite closely, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
we were able to do that. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
I think it's important, life is so frantic for most of us, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
and rightly so, in times... | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
If you've got a dream, you should go for it. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
The worst that can happen is it fails, but at least you've tried. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
If you don't try, you'll never know. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
Earlier in the programme, we met Catherine and Andrew Ingram, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
who've started renovations on their quirky 1930s house. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
The couple had already experienced delays, and were a little anxious | 0:14:30 | 0:14:36 | |
about how best to manage this complex renovation. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
To inspire Andrew and Catherine, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
I took them to meet Clare and Matt Pascoe, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
who'd taken on a tired-looking empty property | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
and used their trade expertise to create their perfect family home. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
Clare, an interior designer | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
and her husband Matt, an electrician, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
live with their young family in Oving, West Sussex. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
In 2009, the Pascoes bought this dilapidated, vacant, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
three-bedroom house for £435,000. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
The reason the house appealed to us | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
was that it would have been out of our league, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
had it been fully renovated already. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
It was quite dated and run down. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
It was just very tired, but you could clearly see | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
it was spacious and could be fantastic. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Clare and Matt were able to draw | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
on their own skills and experience to complete the build. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Even so, they struggled through a harsh winter | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
and the birth of their second child to finish the project. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
We weren't nervous about doing it. We were quite excited about it, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
but it was definitely more stressful as time went on | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
and more of the money got spent, with still plenty of work to do. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
Even as an interior designer with 12 years' experience, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
I still felt the pressure to get in before Christmas. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
Normally I'd be advising clients to relax, these are the lead times, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
these are the processes and don't try and push the team. I didn't follow my own advice at all! | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
Despite the pressures of managing their own build, the Pascoes have transformed and extended | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
this once empty house into a spacious and spectacular home. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
All this work was done for under 70 grand. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
We've certainly added value to the property. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
That wasn't the motive for setting out to refurbish the house. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
It was to make a family home that we could bring our children up in, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
a lovely garden, village location. It was the whole package. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Hello, Matt, Clare. Hi. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
-Can we come in and have a look? -Yes, come on in. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
This renovation may have held different challenges, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
but it was similar in scale to the Ingrams' place. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
-The master bedroom. -Beautiful. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Nice colours. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
I wanted Andrew and Catherine to see | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
how two renovation specialists | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
had managed their big construction project. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Wow, look at this, it just opens up as soon as you come around. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
What state was this in when you took on the property? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
This room didn't exist. This is all the extension that we did. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
-This was an exterior wall, was it? -It was. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
-All extension, going that way? -Yes. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
How would you advise these guys? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
They're both health professionals, not contractors or builders. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
How did you go about finding the right people that you trust? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Word of mouth, if you can. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Try and get some recommendations, maybe see some of their work | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
and try and get somebody you can get on with. It's going to take a while. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
It's a long haul and they're under your feet the whole time. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
-Yes, communication's important. -You've got to get on with them. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-Get the right balance. -Being able to talk. -Sure. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
That's one of my concerns for you two, you're both busy and have full-time jobs | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
and it's about being there enough. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
How important is it to be around if you're a project manager, or, if not | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
to try and employ someone who can be? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
It's nice to keep involved and know what's happening, to be involved in decisions. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
The builders on site will need a quick turnaround. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Sometimes when you're in the middle of a building project, the floors are up | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
and the plaster's down, it's difficult to see the way forward. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
How useful is it seeing a stage forward? You're dealing with exposed concrete floors, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
-and to see a finished project, is lovely. -It is hopeful. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-There is light at the end of the tunnel. -Good, good. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Guys, thank you for that. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
-Sharing your house, opening it up to us to have a look around. -Pleasure. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
Later we'll find out if Andrew and Catherine were able | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
to put the advice they'd heard into practice | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
and turn their 1930s home into the perfect period property. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Whatever the age of your building, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
restoring an empty home can be a richly rewarding experience. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
But when it comes to preserving historic houses, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
it requires not just a sympathetic eye, but a skilled hand. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
Britain is full of homes that date back centuries. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
Maintaining and renovating them is highly specialist work. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
The trouble is, there aren't enough people out there | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
who are skilled enough in the traditional crafts needed | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
to ensure these buildings' preservation. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
12 months ago, I went to Berkshire | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
to find out about a training initiative | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
being run to address this problem. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
I spoke to Paul Simons, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
chair of the National Heritage Training Group. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Start at the beginning. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
What are the key differences between historic heritage building | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
and modern buildings? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
The biggest difference is the change of materials being used. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Old buildings breathe. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Basically, that meant the vast majority of the material you were | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
using was porous - soft brick, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
local stone, lime mortars and plaster. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
It naturally lets water pass through it and evaporate. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
When we look at these older materials and older techniques, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
surely it's a whole different skill base that comes with that? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
Is that right? | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
Well, there's a vast range of skills if you start to think about it, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
from the traditional timber framers, wattle and daub, lime, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
traditional plasters. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
The roof might be clay tile, a thatch, and all these materials | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
need different skills, different abilities, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
to be able to work with them properly and get a quality job. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
So how important is it we keep learning these skills | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
and keep reinterpreting them? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
It's absolutely vital we get young people | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
to train on historic buildings, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
because the other worrying aspect of craftsmanship | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
in historic buildings is the age profile. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Most craftsmen are over 50 already. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Where can people go if they want to learn the skills? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
English Heritage and Construction Skills set up | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
the National Heritage Training group, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
so we have qualifications available for heritage skills | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
from NVQ level III upwards, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
and employers have got incentives to take on young people now | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
and put them through these heritage qualifications, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and we've got to get more young people on these training courses. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
For the apprentices Paul takes on, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
it's an opportunity to learn crafts which have been eclipsed | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
by modern building techniques and are in danger of being forgotten. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
Now, you're at two different stages, right? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
First of all, Sam, how far have you got in your training? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Well, I did three years at college on modern buildings and stuff, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
and after I finished that, I came down here. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
I've gone from making stuff from new timbers | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
to just repairing timbers, say, 100 years old and stuff, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
so it's a lot different. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
Chris, what about you? Where are you in your training? | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
I've been working here for just over six months now, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
and I'm really enjoying it. It's really good. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
I love the history side of it and old school techniques. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
If you had to say, what is the best part of this job, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
the job you're training for? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
Seeing the building being taken down and being put up again repaired, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
being brought back to life. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
-That's what I love. -Well, guys, good luck with it. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Thank you for taking some time off to chat to me today. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
-That's all right. -All the best. -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
Now, one year later, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
Paul Simons' training scheme has really taken off. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
Over 200 apprentices have been placed with artisan builders | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
around the country. And Rob Blaine is one of them. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
He spent six months on the National Heritage Training Scheme | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
getting to grips with the ancient craft of lime plastering. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
And today Paul Simons has come to Oxford to see how he's getting on. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
-That's how I put it on. -And that's going on like butter. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
-It's looking lovely, Rob. -Thank you very much. -And there's good news. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Rob's proved such a dab hand, he's been offered a permanent job. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
It's nice to get on, I suppose, almost the vanguard of conservation | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
in general, and it's great working with natural materials. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
You're never going to earn millions of pounds from it. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
You're there because of the love of the old buildings themselves. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
Lime plastering is very important. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
It's not just putting plaster on a wall, it's the mixing, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
it's selecting the lime, it's getting the right colour, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
the right sands, all that was explained to Rob, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
he's picked all that up very quickly, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
and it'll be useful knowledge for the rest of his working career. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Great to see one success story, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
what one young chap has got out of it. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
It's great news. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
Earlier in the programme, we met a couple who were planning | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
a major renovation on their unusual period home in West Sussex. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
It was an ambitious project, particularly for two people | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
with full-time jobs working unpredictable hours. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Here I am back in Bognor Regis | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
to catch up with Andrew and Catherine Ingram. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Now, when I first met them, work on this beautiful | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
1930s arts and crafts house | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
had pretty much slowed to a standstill, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
so I'm intrigued to see how far they've got. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
The couple have been living here for six months, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
but has the building site been replaced by an art deco delight? | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
-Hello. -Hey, guys. How are you? -Come on in. -Thank you. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
Andrew, good to see you. Hi, Catherine. How are you? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
-Good to see you. -Bright and lovely day. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
-Would you like to come this way? -Yeah, that would be great. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
Shoes off. This is very cosy. Looking good. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
You have completely done it, haven't you? Really nice, yeah. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
-Plenty of changes. -Yes, certainly has been. -Lots been going on. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Last time we were tiptoeing through this space | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
around building work, so what's been going on? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
This floor has all been dug up for a start, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
in this room in particular, for the underground heating. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
The floor in there is oak flooring now, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
-which has been restored. -That was one of the last things we had done, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
because we've had all the rooms re-plastered. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
-Right. -And all professionally decorated and painted. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
I thought, "You have to start from the roof down, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
-"and from the outside in." -Yeah. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
So we did the roof first and then the windows. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
For the last year, Andrew has been busy | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
sourcing original 1930s furniture, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
and this home is the perfect showcase for his collection. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Do you have a favourite item in your living room or downstairs? | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
-Well, I can have two. -You can have two. Go on. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
One is my 1937 toilet. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
-One is my 1940s cabinet over there on the wall. -Oh, lovely. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
Do you have any favourites? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Do you approve of any of these in particular? | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
-I love my birthday present. -What was your birthday present? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
-It was the halberd that's hanging up there. -You got a spear? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
-I've got a spear. -That's an unusual birthday present. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Don't mess with me! | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Last time I was here, things had sort of ground to a halt | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
-in the kitchen... -Mmm-hmm. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
So I'm curious to see what's happened there. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
-Shall we have a look? -Let's have a look. -After you. -Thank you. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
-Aha. Now, last time I came in here, I had to step down. -You did. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
-But suddenly the floor has come up. -Yes. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Building work on this room was delayed | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
when their first attempt at laying the concrete floor didn't go too smoothly. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
We started afresh, digging the whole floor out again | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
-after they laid all the concrete. -It came out again? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
-It came out again. -You had to start all over? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
But, anyway, as you can see now, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
we've got under-floor heating in here with the reclaimed tiles. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
It's just pacing it financially now. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
Is it? So you're going to have to wait a bit until the next stage? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah, sure. -We're saving up to do the kitchen, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
but it also gives plenty of time to think about what you really want | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
and where you actually want things. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
-Let's take a look upstairs, shall we? -Yeah, brilliant. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Well, this is fantastic. It's really come together. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
'Upstairs, the arts and crafts feel | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
'has made way for a tranquil space for meditation.' | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
And we are standing in your... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
-My yoga room. -Your yoga room. Your wish came true. -It did. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
-And I love it. -Yeah, how does it feel, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:09 | |
doing yoga in here as, probably, the sun streams through? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
It's relaxing. It's my space. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
-And the wood features in your bedroom really stand out, don't they? -Mmm. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
Yeah. Well, look, downstairs feels complete, as does the bedroom. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
-It's really, really nice to see, so many congratulations... -Thank you. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
..on getting it to this point. Good luck with the rest of it, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
-but I'm sure before long, you'll be there. So best wishes. -Thank you very much. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
Thank you. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:33 | |
This is a lovely place, and it's also a very, very unique house, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
and I'm really impressed with the way that Catherine and Andrew | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
have been able to revive its character - | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
Andrew with his eye for detail, for arts and crafts, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
1930s little set pieces, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
but Catherine also with the warmth that she brings to the project. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
They've been really determined | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
and they've been very confident in what they want, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
and they've got to this point. They are so close now, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
and I know this house is going to be everything they want it to be. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
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