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'Over the years, Britain's Empty Homes has been on a mission to show what can be done

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'to revitalise and transform some of the UK's estimated

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'one million empty properties.'

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Nice to see you again, David. Hannah, how are you?

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'In this series, I'll be catching up with some of the people who took the plunge

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'and staked everything on turning unloved houses into bespoke family homes.

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'Today we'll be catching up with a 22-year-old tackling

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'a complete renovation project all by himself.'

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This room is virtually all my handiwork.

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'We'll be with some dedicated empty property officers,

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'whose job it is to turn abandoned buildings back into homes again.'

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Wow.

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'And we'll be in Stoke-On-Trent discovering how they're

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'breathing life back into their empty streets.

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15 months ago, I met Michael Hims, a student from Birmingham,

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who'd taken on his first home,

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and with it his first renovation project.

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And guess what? He planned to do all the work himself.

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Back in November 2011, 21-year-old Michael was renovating this

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previously empty 1930s semi-detached house.

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When I got the house, the house had been vacant for about two years.

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It just generally needed to be completely redone from scratch, really.

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I'm more than happy to put the work in,

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so it seemed a good investment for me to buy it, really.

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The house had cost £107,000

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and Michael bought it with the help of his mum Fiona,

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who was acting as his financial guarantor.

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I helped Michael with the deposit,

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so I put the deposit up for him to apply for the mortgage.

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Everything else since has been funded by Michael.

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Michael was studying to be an electrical engineer

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and planned to do the majority of the works himself,

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despite having no renovation experience.

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I think I'm ambitious with what I'm trying to do. It's a full renovation.

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Rewire, new plumbing, new drainage, all that sort of stuff.

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Michael had big ambitions,

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but a relatively small renovation budget of 15 grand.

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He'd already spent 12,000 of that,

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but was still determined to make a hi-tech home his priority.

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I'm looking to do, like,

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an integrated audiovisual kind of system and have speakers

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throughout the house and the sound will follow you from room to room

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and make the house react to what you're doing, what your daily routine is.

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Michael saw this as a long-term project, so had moved

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back in with his mum while tackling the construction work.

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I haven't got a move-in date as such.

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I don't see that it's something worth having

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cos when it's ready it's ready.

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There's no point trying to aim for a certain date.

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Well, that's interesting! I thought we were working towards June 2012.

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Um, but I appreciate Michael,

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um...can have as much time as he needs.

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He can't! He's got to be out of my house by June!

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'I was concerned that Michael had taken on an awful lot

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'and that his budget didn't match his ambitions for the place.

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'When I first met up with him, I was keen to find out more.'

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-Hi, there, I'm Joe.

-Hello, nice to see you.

-Nice to meet you.

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Hi, Mike, how are you doing? So this is the place?

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-It is, yeah.

-You're an interested investor?

-Yes.

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So you're going to see how your investment's coming along.

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-Absolutely, yes.

-Excellent. Shall we go inside and have a look?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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Wow!

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This is very much a building site.

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-Is this your handiwork?

-Yes.

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I'm looking to do as much of the work as possible.

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All the electrics, all the pluming.

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The only thing I'm not sure about is the plastering, but I'll see how that goes.

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What happens when you come across something you don't know how to do? How do you learn it?

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There's plenty of people you can ask.

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All the manufacturers give out guidance.

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If not there's online forums you can go with.

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What is the budget for renovating, well, it's a whole house like this?

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-Yeah, the budget originally - well, still is - is £15,000.

-OK.

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And to date there's probably about £3,000 left over.

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And how much more do you have to buy just in terms of materials?

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Materials-wise we're pretty much there. All the electrics are ordered.

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All the plumbing and plasterboard. It's just pretty much the kitchen.

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You said a minute ago, "I don't know if I can plaster."

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From what I've seen of other properties, that is

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quite a skill, and not something you can just pick up overnight.

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Is there room in the budget to bring in a specialist

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contractor like a plasterer?

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There will be room if there needs to be room.

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But the amount of work I'm doing anyway, I'm happy to do it.

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So I just kind of see it as another step, really.

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Tell me about the electrics. What's your vision for the house? What do you want to do with it?

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Yeah, well, I'm looking to have a centralised audiovisual kind of install

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and kind of automate the heating and lighting systems,

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even remotely for the heating, logging on the internet

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and control different aspects.

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A little bit of audiovisual has already gone in, is that fair to say?

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Yeah, I've already fitted out a home cinema screen.

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That had to go in at this stage

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because of the structural changes that had to be made to accommodate it.

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Yeah, it had to, Fiona! It had to go in.

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Firstly, you don't need plasterboard...

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-It's priorities!

-..you need a 100-inch TV screen.

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-Can I see it in operation?

-Yeah, sure, there's a remote here.

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-It's actually up there...

-Yeah, it's actually within the ceiling now.

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So when it's plastered over you won't be able to see it.

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These joists would have gone all the way across, but you've stopped them doing that.

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You've put in an extra one at the end,

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-so they don't go all the way across, so you can fit this in.

-Yeah.

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You restructured the whole floor...

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Yeah, the whole floor was redone just to put the screen in.

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That's mind-boggling.

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'But what about the rest of the house?'

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-So clearly this would be the kitchen, is that right?

-Yep.

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21 is very young to take on and renovate your own house

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with no experience, but, as Mike's showing, there isn't much to fear

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if you can get the right advice and consult the right people.

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It's pretty admirable, isn't it?

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I mean, I'm hugely impressed.

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I think he's showing a dedication to something he believes in and

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when he gets stuck he'll ask for information.

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But he's got a drive and a vision that hasn't wavered,

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really, from the outset, and I think that's a huge credit to him.

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Later we'll see what happened

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when I took Michael to meet Wayne and Elaine Kelly,

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who'd bought a dated semi-detached house

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and used their know-how to realise its potential.

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Across the country, there are many buildings like Michael's

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just waiting to be discovered and renovated.

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Local council empty property officers carry out detective work

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round the clock to reclaim abandoned homes and make them habitable again.

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Jason Hall's beat is Richmond-Upon-Thames

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Richmond's an affluent area,

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where houses tend to fetch between £500,000 and ten million pounds,

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so it's not a place where you might expect to find many

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vacant properties.

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But at present Jason has over 125 empties on his books.

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It seems crazy that people would leave the properties empty

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and run the risk of having squatters break into them

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or damage done to the property and lose value on them.

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It never ceases to amaze me.

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Just over a year ago, Jason was visiting a building

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he'd been campaigning to save for three years.

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Built in the late 1800s, this huge house

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and industrial unit had been empty for over 20 years.

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The plot itself was potentially worth as much as £1 million.

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The previous owner kept it primarily to house two classic cars.

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The owner had left it to get into a really poor condition

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and due to the fact that all the different problems

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that we'd come across, we were looking to take possession.

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For a long time, Jason struggled to find the owner and inevitably,

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the building became of concern to the community.

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In recent years, it's quite serious.

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We've had squatters on a number of occasions.

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Basically, it was just overrun and wild.

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Eventually, after much pressure from Jason,

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the place was sold to a local developer

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who was converting it into two large houses.

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-Are we good?

-Nice to see you.

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Jason met with the developer and the council planning officer

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to see how the works were progressing.

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-We're going to retain the original house which is this part here.

-Mm-hm.

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And the extension which is added on much later,

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we're going to extend the roof across and turn into a completely separate dwelling

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which will be a three-bedroom house but we'll preserve

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the character of the old house on the front facade and at the rear,

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we're obviously going to change it somewhat to bring it up

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to more like today's requirements.

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So it's going to be a modern, contemporary house on the inside...

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-Yeah.

-..but the original features on the outside.

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While the building wasn't listed, it was located

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in a conservation area so the council were keen to retain

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its original character.

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It's like it's one house as opposed to two

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so it looks like it was all the original building as opposed to

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the printworks off the side at the moment which looks like an addition.

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Preserving all the original features with the wooden windows and the

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railings back to the outside, it's going to look stunning building.

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Really impressive.

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So after 25 years,

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the future for this beautiful house was looking much brighter.

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-Thanks very much. Nice to see you.

-Thank you, take care.

-Cheers, bye.

-Bye-bye.

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'Without Jason chasing around some of these empty properties,

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'they would sit and become more and more derelict

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'for years and years and years.

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'It's not for lack of people trying to track down the owners,'

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it's their reluctance to actually sell these properties.

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Today, Jason is back in Richmond to see the near-completed project.

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The first impressions of the building,

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it looks absolutely amazing.

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It's absolutely nothing like what it was before.

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I just can't wait to see inside it.

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He's arranged to meet the new owner, Clifford Hamilton,

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on-site for a guided tour.

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Cliff. Hi, Jason. How are you doing, all right?

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-Very good.

-What do you think, starting to look a bit better?

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Looks amazing, doesn't it? From a few months back,

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-would never have thought it'd look anything like this.

-It's a massive transformation.

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As you know, all the Crittall windows, we've taken out,

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we took out the doors from the garage

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and obviously we put a roof on and blended it in.

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-Would you like to have a look inside?

-Absolutely, yeah.

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-Come round and have a look.

-OK, lead the way.

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Clifford has transformed this once-crumbling edifice in this

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prominent location into two impressive family abodes.

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Wow.

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You see, this is how all empty properties I have an involvement in

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should look afterwards when they're brought back into use.

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We're very pleased with how it's turned out.

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Clearly, no expense was spared on this refurbishment.

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We put this huge skylight in which lets in a lot of light.

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It's really good. The media system's just going in at the moment.

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It's not quite finished but by the time it's finished,

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we'll have a small cabinet down below

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and you'll be able to sit and lounge in...

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It's a kitchen/family room, really.

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This house's homely renaissance has taken over a year

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and provided a few nerve-racking moments.

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During the excavation of the concrete floor in that area

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over there were two World War I bombs which caused

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a bit of excitement, we had the bomb squad down here,

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we shut the road off for a few hours

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and had to move on but fortuitously, we haven't found anything since.

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We should be safe, then. I'll tread carefully!

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This five-bedroom, three-bathroom family house

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has been renovated to a high standard

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and will carry a hefty price tag

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when it goes on the market in a few weeks.

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We received loads of complaints about this place leading up to it

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being sold and you buying it.

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Is everybody happy in the area now that...?

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Is the feedback good from the work you carried out?

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I think most of the residents have stopped and shaken my hand

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as they've gone by. They really are pleased with the way

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the corner's lifted.

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Clifford was determined to restore this grand Victorian home

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rather than knocking it down and building flat which had been

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the intention of the many other prospective buyers.

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The old saying "old is gold" is very true.

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It's a wonderful-looking building,

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it's brought back to live for another 100 years.

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-Old on the outside, then looks like this.

-New on the inside.

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The reason this property's so exciting for me

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is that it's been empty for so long, looked really, really bad.

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It was an absolute eyesore in the whole neighbourhood.

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It's in such a prominent position

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and now to see it returned to use, to me,

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that's an absolutely fantastic success.

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Finding somewhere in the right location at the right price

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can be just the beginning of a long and arduous journey.

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But with imagination - not to mention quite a lot of hard graft -

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really, anything is possible.

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Six years ago, Tim and Lindsay Keyes bought this abandoned former chapel

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in Flintshire with plans to turn it into a luxurious family home.

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-It was derelict.

-Empty shell. Nothing in it at all.

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No floors, nothing, basically.

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We have to try and imagine putting the floors in, dividing the rooms up.

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It was a black canvas, you could do with it whatever you want.

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Built in 1865, this Gothic building was attached to the nearby convent.

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It was used as an orphanage until it closed its doors in 1977

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and has laid empty ever since.

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The Keyes paid £160,000 for the church

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and had the same amount again for renovations.

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But a build that was supposed to take six months ran behind schedule,

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and ended up taking 11 months to complete.

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You expect to see progress every time you come

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and it can get you down, it can be disappointing.

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There are times when you just think, "What am I doing this for?"

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You know, "What have I let myself in for? We're nowhere near finished."

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But there are also times where it makes massive strides.

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The creative vision is all down to Tim and Lindsay.

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They only called in an architect

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once it was time to draw up the final plans.

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The couple installed a second floor

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to create a more intimate space upstairs,

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but decided to leave the ground floor open

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to show off the building's Gothic grandeur.

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-It's difficult to get the balance between old and new.

-New.

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We kept downstairs old more, didn't we?

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And the upstairs a bit more up to date.

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This is a fabulous place to live, fantastic place.

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Earlier in the programme, I met first-time renovator Michael Hims

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who, with the help of his mum, had bought an empty 1930s house.

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He wanted to renovate the property all by himself,

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stamping his own individual style on his new home.

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To help Michael, I took him to see Wayne and Elaine Kelly

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who'd bought a dated semi-detached house

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and used their know-how to bring it back to its modern best.

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Wayne and Elaine bought the three-bed semi

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with a view to renovating it.

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Built in 1938, the house had only ever had one owner before them.

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The previous occupant had passed away

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and the house was left empty for over two years

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and was in serious need of renovation when they took it on.

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It needed completely rewiring.

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We knew it needed completely replastering.

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We could see the potential for a kitchen extension on the back.

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Wayne, a builder,

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had tackled the majority of the work himself, just as Michael intended.

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But even with Wayne's experience,

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juggling their jobs alongside their own renovation was tough.

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-Trying to work all day and then you have to come here at night.

-Yeah.

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Work the weekends. It is very stressful.

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And Wayne's professional experience had certainly helped the budget.

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The benefits - the renovation with Wayne being a builder -

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was just a massive help.

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I would say that we've probably saved over £40,000 in labour charges

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by renovating the house ourselves.

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'Even though this project was on a bigger scale than Michael's,

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'I'd hoped that he and Fiona

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'would be able to glean some useful advice from his visit.'

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Guys, this is lovely.

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So, you have a bit of experience in doing this kind of renovation.

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-Is that fair?

-Yeah.

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I am in the building trade and this is our third renovation.

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How much of the work does that mean you can do yourself

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when you take on a project like this?

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-We could probably do about 90% of the work ourselves.

-Right.

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Mike's been incredibly brave and done everything himself.

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Brave or stupid, it's one of the two!

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Yeah, brave/stupid, we'll weigh it up!

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In a place like this, you look at the walls

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and you almost take it for granted how straight and smooth

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everything is, but how important is it to get that exactly write?

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I think it's very important because when you apply the paint,

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if the finish isn't just right, any lights

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will show up any imperfections

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on the walls, so it does pay to have a professional do the job for you.

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It's a similar sized house,

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what does it cost to get a plasterer in for a house like this?

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OK, this size of house, if Mike was boarding it himself,

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-I would say approximately £1,500.

-That's nothing too shocking.

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-I could still afford it if I had to.

-Yeah. "If you HAD to."

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You're still contemplating giving it a go.

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I'm giving everything else a go, so it makes sense for me

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to see it all the way through, as it were.

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-If the quality's not up to scratch, then I'll happily get someone else in to do it.

-Yeah.

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'I was keen for Michael and Fiona to see more

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'and to talk further about the reality of renovation budgets.'

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-So here we are. This is the master bedroom?

-Yes, that's right.

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I know it took you about 18 months to do the renovation in total.

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What did you THINK it was going to cost you,

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and then what did it ACTUALLY cost you?

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-Well, we thought it would cost about £30,000...

-Right.

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..to completely renovate the house.

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But it probably cost more like £40,000.

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It was mainly the fixtures and fittings.

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How do you feel about money, listening to that?

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So far, because I'm still on budget,

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I guess I'm not that yet concerned that I'm going to be over.

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Yeah, but if we break it down, you've got £3,000 left.

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Ha! Yeah.

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-And at least half of that's going to a plasterer.

-Potentially!

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-Potentially!

-Yeah.

-So there's going to be a bit of a squeeze. You don't have to be...

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-We'll see what it comes to. If it goes over, it goes over.

-Yeah.

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'Later in the programme, we'll catch up with Michael to see

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'if he did tackle every task on his build and if his budget stretched.'

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The UK is facing a housing crisis and for every two families

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that need a place to live, there's a property lying empty.

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There are nearly a million vacant homes across the UK

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and almost 300,000 of these have been abandoned

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for six months or more.

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Some empty properties stand alone, they're complete one-offs,

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while in other cases, whole areas have fallen into decline leaving

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large numbers of derelict dwellings.

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In these situations, it's really difficult for individuals

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or developers to really make a difference

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and that's why the Government have created a scheme to help

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turn around these abandoned streets.

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'Last year, we learned that the Government were going to

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'allocate funding of £50 million to bring clusters of empty homes

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'back into use.

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'I met up with David Ireland from the Empty Homes Agency to see what sort

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'of impact he thought this project would have on our housing problem.'

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How does this fund differ from funds that have previously

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been made available by the Government?

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This is about groups of empty properties so whereas previous funds

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are about getting individual properties back into use

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and getting them into affordable housing, this is about dealing

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with whole blocks of empty properties like the ones we've got behind us.

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There'd be little point in doing just one of those houses,

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because who'd want to live in amongst all that dereliction?

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What you need to do is deal with all of them at once.

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And that costs a lot of money

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and that's why there is a need for a fund.

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So, this really could make a huge difference to whole neighbourhoods?

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There are areas of the country where there are huge amounts of empty

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properties and before, it's been very difficult to bring all those back into use at once

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so I think this will help in bringing probably a fairly small number of

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neighbourhoods but bringing...doing a lot of good in that small number.

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Today, less than one year later, Stoke-on-Trent have been

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awarded £1.5 million from the cluster fund which has been

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matched by the council to regenerate the depressed area.

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Over the last decade, the Cobridge area of Stoke has become

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blighted with abandoned properties

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and there's real concern for the future of the community here.

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David Ireland is encouraged by the innovative way

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that Stoke Council intends to use their awarded fund.

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The scheme here is what's called homesteading,

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the council will sell these properties for £1,

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which sounds like a fantastic bargain, but what it does mean

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is that people will need to do the properties up themselves

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and they'll get a loan from the council to enable them to do so.

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The new owners will be able to borrow up to

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£30,000 at a reduced interest rate to spend on renovating their homes

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and it's hoped this incentive will draw people back to these streets.

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The cluster fund is going to pay for the loans which enable people

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to bring these properties back into use so it's actually

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the cluster funds which made this scheme possible

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in the way that it's being done.

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The thinking here has been that nobody wants to live in these areas.

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And I think that thinking was wrong.

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What the truth was is that nobody could afford to

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live in here at the prices that were being asked.

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By changing the prices

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and making it very, very affordable,

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you actually find there's a lot of demand

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and the interest which has already been shown

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in these has been absolutely enormous.

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That's very encouraging because it shows lots of people

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want to come here and get these houses back into use

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and that's got to be a very, very good thing for the future.

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The council have already had success with a similar scheme less

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than a mile away in Middleport.

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The houses that we saw in Cobridge are exactly the same structure

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as these and in fact, a year or so ago,

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these ones looked exactly the same.

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So, this proves what can be done and what can happen.

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And hopefully in a few months' time,

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we'll see the streets in Cobridge looking the same as this.

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When I first met novice DIY renovator, Michael,

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he'd bought a three-bedroom house in Birmingham.

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I'm looking to do an integrated audiovisual system, make

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the house react towards what you're doing and what your daily routine is, as it were.

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Although he'd just started his renovation,

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he'd already spent 12,000 of his £15,000 budget.

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I'm back in Birmingham to catch up with Mike.

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This isn't a property that was ever going to change

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hugely from the outside and, to be honest, it hasn't, really.

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But I'm very intrigued to see inside

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to find out how he's been getting on.

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'Michael had planned to turn this standard 1930s semi-detached

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'house into a hi-tech bachelor pad.'

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Hey, Mike, how are you doing?

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Can I come and have a look?

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'And with his mum acting as a financial guarantor, it was

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'in everybody's interest to complete the renovation on schedule.'

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This has definitely come on. Some big changes here.

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Last time, they were joists all exposed, you'd stripped

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everything back and you say you put lots of cables through.

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-So, is your vision of a hi-tech home still on course?

-Yes, definitely.

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-The screen's still in, it's still staying where it is.

-Good.

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And everything's still going to plan.

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We talked a lot about plastering,

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whether you were going to do it yourself. What happened, did you get someone in?

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Yeah, I had one in. His handiwork is what you see today, really.

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It's a lot better now than what was before

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and I'm much happier with it.

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'Clearly, the house still has a long way to go

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'but when you're doing the majority of the work yourself

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'and you're on a tight budget, it's an uphill struggle.'

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So you're fitting in your job, uni and working on the house.

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What time are you getting up every day?

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I get up at four o'clock in the morning now.

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If you have time, you come back to the house?

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Yeah, and obviously got weekends as well,

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I do it between work and house as well.

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But it's still going ahead, albeit a bit slower than it was before.

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That shows just how dedicated you have to be.

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That's really impressive.

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'And this ambitious project hasn't been helped by an opportunist

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'who took a shine to Michael's lead roof.'

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The bay window at the front, that was a lead roof, that got pinched.

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-Somebody actually nicked your roof?!

-I had to put a new fibreglass roof on there,

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and that has to comply with regulations as well.

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Because it was completely exposed. It wasn't watertight.

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-Oh, God. You can't plan for that, can you?

-No.

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'Against the odds, this 22-year-old has managed to do almost

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'everything himself, including the electrics and the plumbing.

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'And his masterplan of creating a hi-tech digital house

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'is still on course.'

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Is this a plan of what you'll be doing?

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Yeah, here it is. You can see the television in the middle

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and then the alcove either side with a large bench thing

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-you can see behind me.

-That's already in, OK.

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And then the idea is the speakers pop out of there

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-for the home cinema system.

-The speakers pop out?

-Yeah.

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So, you press a button and the speakers rise up out of that unit?

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The screen comes down from the ceiling

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and the speakers then come up as well so then everything

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changes from a normal living room to an absolute home cinema.

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To a home cinema. I like the vision. What do you make of that, Fiona?

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-This is good, isn't it?

-It's fantastic.

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We've been looking at this for quite a few times over the last few months

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-and I'm very proud of him. Looks great.

-Yeah.

-Really good.

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'Upstairs, Michael is justifiably proud of the bathroom he's

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'created single-handedly, and the other rooms are taking shape too.'

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Well, this is looking good. This is very nearly finished.

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Yeah, this room's virtually all my own handiwork.

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These tiles can be pretty tricky because you get them

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slightly out, you really notice it. How have you found it?

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Yeah, cos I put the walls in as well,

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I had to make sure the walls were perfectly square.

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It was a challenge at first, getting the hang of it,

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-but it's gone quite well overall. Quite happy with it.

-Yeah.

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You've done some of the plumbing as well?

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All the plumbing, I've done myself.

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It must be a tremendous satisfaction thinking, "I've built this room."

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-That must feel great.

-Yeah, there definitely is.

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Fiona, last time, you did happen to mention on camera that you would...

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or you EXPECTED Mike might move out by June 2012.

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Did that happen?

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He did move out when he said

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-and now he's moved back in!

-But it sounds like you're close to finally...

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-We're close to him moving out permanently.

-Yeah.

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So I think we're saying, what, a couple of weeks?

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-Yeah, couple of weeks.

-Couple of weeks.

-We've said it on camera!

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-So it must happen.

-Would that be a good thing? Bit more space?

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-Bit more space, definitely, yes.

-Very good.

-So, yes, that'll all work out, hopefully.

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Well, I'm incredibly impressed with everything you've done. Fitting so much in.

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It doesn't seem like you're that far off.

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-So, impressive, good luck with it.

-Thank you.

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-Hope you get there very soon.

-Cheers.

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I'm impressed with everything Michael's done.

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OK, he hasn't been able to keep up with the pace of that early progress

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but even so, things are definitely happening

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and also what I really like is he stuck to his ideals,

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that he really wanted this hi-tech home.

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Reality hasn't weighed in, hasn't changed any of that,

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that's exactly what he's going to have.

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And isn't he going to have a swish gadget pad? All the best to him.

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