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Over the years, Britain's Empty Homes has been on a mission to show what can be done

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to revitalise and transform some of the UK's estimated one million

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empty properties.

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-Jeremy.

-Good to see you again.

-Karen.

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In this series I'll be catching up with some of the people who took

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the plunge, and staked everything on turning unloved houses

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into bespoke family homes.

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Today I'll be catching up with a lady from an earlier series

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who made a brave decision to take on one of Britain's empty properties.

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You imagine family Christmases here and going for walks on the Downs.

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-It somehow gives it a sense of purpose.

-Fantastic.

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I'll be seeing just how far she's got with creating her dream home.

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We'll also be visiting some of the derelict dwellings

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our property detectives have been working hard to save,

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to prevent their owners from leaving them as a blot on the landscape.

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It's incredible.

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It was in quite a bad state the last time I saw it

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but it's been done up really, really well.

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And we'll be seeing how Housing Trust is trying to revitalise

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swathes of derelict housing that's been a blight on London's

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North Circular for almost 50 years.

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Over 14 months ago, I met theatre director Alison Grant,

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who had recently returned to the UK with her heart set on a quaint

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English cottage. And what do you know?

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She found one right here on the Sussex coast.

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But as with most empty properties,

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she soon discovered some unexpected issues.

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Alison had a big job ahead of her.

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Alison spent 25 years in the USA.

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She returned to these shores after separating from her husband.

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Soon after her return, she bought this abandoned ranger's cottage

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in Cuckmere Haven, East Sussex, paying £300,000 at auction.

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But the joy of winning the bidding war was soon tempered

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by the reality of what she had actually purchased.

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Everybody dropped out of the bidding at a certain point,

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and it was between me and one other lady,

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and we were obviously both emotional bidders, not investors.

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So, we bid each other up

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and I finally came to the point where I went,

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"I mustn't bid any more," and she didn't bid anything.

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I longed for all sorts of things that England has that America doesn't have

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and a lot of that is history.

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What I want is the idyllic English dream, a cottage

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with chickens in the garden and a dog and a cat.

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But Alison's romantic vision was given a tough reality check

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when she had a closer look at what she'd actually bought.

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I was very pleased to find that it was structurally sound

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and it had a solid roof, it didn't leak.

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What it did have was an infestation of death watch beetle,

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which apparently nests in old oak only.

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Death watch beetles attack old timbers, and over time can cause

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some serious damage.

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But with the correct treatment, it is possible to eradicate them.

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There have been times over the last year

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where I've wondered about my sanity.

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There are times when I have woken up in the night and gone,

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"What have I done?"

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'When I met Alison, she was full of enthusiasm and ideas

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'for how she would transform this empty property.'

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Hello, Alison. I'm Joe.

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-Hi, Joe, nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you, too.

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This is it. What an incredible property in a stunning area.

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Yes, that's why I bought it, obviously.

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It had been empty for two-and-a-half years,

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it was covered, you couldn't see the view because it was so overgrown.

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It was pretty... it was pretty dire.

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-Let's have a look, you can show me around.

-OK.

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Crikey, look at this, it's all opened up.

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It is, indeed.

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What was it like before, when you first walked through that door?

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Very closed, very dark,

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which is why I'm going down the route of opening it up

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and we've raised ceilings

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to try and make it a bit more bearable to walk around in.

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-You've raised the ceilings for the ground floor?

-Yes.

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We were able to do it because upstairs it's got a sloped ceiling,

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so there's more headroom.

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We had to make the decision whether to go down

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or to take the ceilings up.

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We decided we would take the ceilings up

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because you get into a whole mess of problems if you try to go down,

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I understand, with damp and so on.

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It feels the right height, it feels natural.

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-It's still quite low but it's... for a cottage, it's OK.

-Yes.

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What is this behind you? It looks incredible.

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Ah, this was entirely concealed.

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It's too high for a fireplace, is it some sort of oven?

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Yes, it is a bread brick oven, is what it is.

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A bread oven.

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It looks as if it's in working order, I haven't fired it up,

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but Jamie Oliver cooks with one all the time.

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'I was keen to see what plans Alison had for the upstairs.'

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-So, this is going to be the master bedroom.

-OK.

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The fireplace is going to be raised up,

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-so that it's a see-through fireplace with a fire on both sides.

-Ah.

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Then through there, there's going to be a whirlpool, spa bath.

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Which is why we've had reinforcements underneath,

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to bear the weight of that. And built-in closets.

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So, it's going to be this one magnificent...

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So, a sweeping bedroom, all the way along the front of the house.

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With the views, yes.

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You look out there, and there is such a view.

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-It is, it's iconic.

-It's just breathtaking.

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Yes, OK, you had to take out some of the woodwork

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because of beetles and that kind of stuff,

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but great that you've got these chimneys and the bread oven

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-and a couple of fireplaces. Plenty to work with there.

-Oh, yes.

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Looking ahead, now, at the project, is the greatest worry money?

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Yes, I would say the greatest worry is money,

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not where the money is coming from eventually,

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but how to utilise the money that I've got at the moment,

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to make it work in the best possible way.

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Later, we'll see what happened when I took Alison to meet a couple

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who overcame the structural problems of a run-down barn

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to create a spectacular new home.

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Across Britain, there are many gems like Alison's just waiting

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to be discovered and taken on.

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And local councils' empty property offices are constantly carrying out

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detective work to find abandoned homes and bring them back to life.

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In Cardiff alone,

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there's 2,000 properties on the long-term vacant list.

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18 months ago, empty property officer Steve Reid was on his way

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to visit a house in the city which he was already well acquainted with.

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The property I'm visiting today is one that

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I have been dealing with for three or four years.

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Work has started on the property but we still need to keep

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monitoring it to make sure that work keeps progressing.

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Morning, Mr Khan. Steven Reid from Cardiff City Council.

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Wow, what a difference.

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I remember the problems that this property caused over the years.

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There was two joists that had been broken in the middle up there,

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and it was totally... The house was like that.

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So I had to take that old joist out and put steel in there.

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There was a big hole next door as well, all rotting away.

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Can we go have a look at that?

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The difference in here as well from the last time I saw it.

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There was no floor over there at all.

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And there was a hole in the ceiling, I had to pitch the new ceiling in.

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You're a very brave man taking on such a big project.

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Today, nearly 18 months later, Steve's returning to the property

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to see the success story for himself.

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The work's been completed, the house has been rented

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and is now home to a local family.

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Steve's keen to take another look inside

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and finally tick this property off his list.

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When I first came here four years ago, there were no windows.

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Part of the roof line had collapsed.

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The sills on the top two windows had collapsed where the bay had dropped.

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There's a massive difference.

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-Hiya, Zahr.

-Hi, Steve, all right? Come on in.

-Thank you.

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The new tenants were delighted to find a family home in this

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part of town.

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Wow, this has changed so much.

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It's incredible. It was in quite a bad state the last time I saw it.

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But it's been done up really, really well.

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-Yeah, it's nice, isn't it?

-Yes.

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Is there any particular reason why you chose this area?

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It's close to my family, my parents.

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And it's close to the city centre.

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-It's very convenient.

-Yeah? Do you mind if I have a little look around?

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-No, carry on.

-Thanks.

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Originally, when we came here about four years ago,

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all the floorboards were loose.

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There was a huge hole on the floor there, where a lot of the beams

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had rotted and the floor had collapsed.

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There was a huge hole in the ceiling.

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And obviously they've replaced some of the joists up there,

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put this laminate flooring down, plastered the walls.

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A bit of paint and it just looks like a family lounge,

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part of a bigger family house.

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Which is great.

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Steve has seen this property through all the different stages

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of its development,

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from abandoned wreck to building site,

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to comfortable family home.

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Knowing it from four years ago, the condition it was in,

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virtually derelict and literally falling down.

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And then coming back, seeing it now completely renovated,

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and to see a young couple with their kids living in there,

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it's just fantastic. It's exactly what our remit is.

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So it's a good job all round.

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Bringing an empty property back to life may be a worthwhile pursuit,

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but let's face it, it's never going to be easy.

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However, when you speak to people who have been through it,

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they'll tell you the hard slog, the long hours,

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the late nights are all worth it in the end.

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Searching for the right vacant house to turn into a dream home

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can be a long and arduous process,

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but sometimes the perfect property can be found right under our noses.

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Ian and Deborah Tanner's local church had a special connection

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to the couple. It sat right at the end of their garden in Devon.

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Little did they know that one day they would end up living in it.

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We've lived here for 25 years.

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Plus, our children used to go to playschool

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when it was in what was the Sunday School in the church hall,

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so we've known the place for a long time.

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It closed a couple of years before we bought it.

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There was dry rot, wet rot, woodworm here that we've had treated

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and I'm sure another 12 or 18 months and it would have been

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in real trouble and probably too much for us to have taken on.

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Hymn books were still on the pews and the organ was intact when

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the couple took a leap of faith and bought the church at auction

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for £125,000.

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I used to say it would make a really nice home.

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It's just a beautiful building to maintain as well,

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rather than it go to rack and ruin. We were up for a challenge

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and it was a good time in our life to do something.

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The Tanners made every effort to honour the style

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and history of this prominent local church.

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All the window shapes have stayed the same,

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the doors have stayed the same.

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Even the paint colour is pretty similar outside to what it was before.

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And the renovation also presented Deborah with the chance to gain

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some new skills.

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We really enjoyed looking into all the different aspects

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of the building and, because I had all these windows

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that I knew I would need to do, I've done the City & Guilds

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stained-glass window making course,

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so I've just put the first window in, which has given me a lot of pleasure.

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It's like an extra hobby that I've discovered.

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Of course, the couple enjoy the entire house,

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but they do have their favourite features.

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The stairs and the lounge are the best bits, for me.

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It's a bit of a decision.

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Do you chop it up, do you go for a big open-plan space?

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And we've gone for an open-plan space.

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I think we both really love it.

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I especially like the woodwork that we had sandblasted.

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It was all painted black and it has come up really nice.

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We've used the pulpit of the church in the corner as a bar,

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and we've turned some pews into the dinner table.

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As with many renovations of this size,

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budgets and timescales can often spiral, but the Tanners managed

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to stick to a 20-week schedule,

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spending £250,000 on the process.

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We have spent more money than we thought

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we wanted to spend at the start, but it's not about the money.

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It's about having what we've ended up with.

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It's a great place to live in and if you want something badly

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enough, you will just carry on and do it.

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I'm really proud of the house and I'm really proud

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of what we've achieved.

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We've managed to get through it all without any kind of...

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We haven't had any domestics

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and it is a joy every night to come home and see it all.

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And it takes over your life, to a certain extent.

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But it's a great place to live in and we're both really proud of it.

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Earlier in the programme, we met the intrepid Alison Grant,

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whose determination to realise the home of her dreams

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led her to buying in this derelict ranger's cottage in East Sussex.

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There have been times over the last year

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where I have wondered about my sanity.

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There are times when I have woken up in the night and gone,

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"What have I done?"

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Alison was starting to feel a bit overwhelmed

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and was falling behind schedule.

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So I thought it'd help to meet someone else who had tackled

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a similar renovation project.

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To inspire Alison, I took her to meet a couple who successfully

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married the old with the new,

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and turned a run-down barn into a spectacular home.

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When Ian and Jan Law first spotted this derelict barn

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in Sedlescombe, East Sussex, it was love at first sight.

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We were going down to Hastings for the morning, and saw it

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advertised in the estate agents' window, liked it that much that we

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rang the agents again the following morning and came in and had a look.

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It was then that they told us it was also going up for auction.

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Ian and Jan were given a six-week deadline to

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get their finances in place or the barn would definitely go to auction.

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Just in time, the Laws got the money sorted.

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And then realised the full extent of what they had taken on.

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It was looking sorry for itself,

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but you could see that there were a nice lot of beams inside.

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You know, it had a nice lot of potential.

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The actual ridge of the thatched roof, the straw, had all gone,

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so it was leaking inside.

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Every weekend Jan would be working with us.

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You know, we'd be humping beams about on blocks and tackles.

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A digger was sat in here holding beams up while we were trying to jiggle them in.

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This was Ian and Jan's second barn renovation

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but it wasn't all smooth running -

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they came up against some unexpected challenges.

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What we hadn't budgeted for was the costings on the thatch.

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We ended up spending a lot of money on the bespoke windows and joinery.

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But the windows and joinery were the least of their worries.

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They spent a whole year and a half without mains electricity.

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And that was a nightmare!

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The barn was nearly finished before we got electric supply connected.

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Despite all these challenges, Ian and Jan created a spectacular home.

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We've actually said now,

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it's something we ought to have done years ago.

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Although this build was on a different scale to Alison's,

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there were many similarities,

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and I was hopeful she'd glean some useful tips and advice.

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-Hello, Ian.

-Hi, guys.

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-Hi, can we come in?

-Yeah.

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Great, thank you.

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'As soon as we arrived, it was clear -

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'this was a huge restoration project.'

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So was this just one, big open barn?

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Yes.

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-There were no levels in it at all?

-No levels in it at all.

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Just the open space with the lower levels on the outside,

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which were cow pens and animal runs.

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So, where you have got the kitchen, that was another outbuilding?

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Yes, just like a lean-to on the side, which was animal pens.

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I see you've got some wonderful beams

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that look like they've had some sort of infestation in them?

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Can you tell me a bit about that, because I have that problem.

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Yes, we had them all treated. We had them all sandblasted.

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They come in and put a treatment on all the timber, the old and the new,

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because you are importing more bugs in, in the new timber.

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You bring your new timber in, you put it up alongside your old timber,

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and then you just treat the whole place?

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I know some of your wood had to be taken out,

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but there's definitely hope for what's left,

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that you can treat it and it'll be fine.

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Yeah, and I would really love to save as much as I possibly can.

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One, for the look, but also for the authenticity of the building.

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So, it's really good to hear that I might be able to say some of it.

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Shall we have a look up in one of the bedrooms?

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-That one's probably the biggest one.

-OK.

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-So, this is very much the master bedroom, right?

-Yeah.

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Great head height, there's a lot to play with here.

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To bring it all back down to earth,

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how much did it cost, and did you have to go over budget?

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We thought we could do it for around about 100, 110,

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and it ended up at 160.

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-Wow. That's half as much again, on the budget.

-A little over!

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Were there any sacrifices you had to make

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to allow your budget to go that little bit further?

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Kitchen units, just bits and pieces

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where we haven't quite spent the quality in there

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that you would have liked to have done.

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But the budget forces you into those little areas,

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and it still looks nice

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but not quite how you would have done it the first time round,

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but it's something you can always alter at a later stage.

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I think the key example is just over my shoulder,

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you put a chimney and flue in.

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There's no wood burner at the moment.

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But it's there for when you want it and you can afford it in the future.

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That's it, once we have saved the pennies we can pop it in.

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I don't want to do something that's got to be redone,

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but upgrading, I think, is a really good way to save money in the moment.

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It's been wonderful to look round your home, thank you for letting us.

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Yes, thank you.

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And, I trust, it's been the right balance of inspiration

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but also some good advice coming across.

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Yes, it's really helpful to me,

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because I do tend to lose sight of where I'm going

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because it is such a construction site at the moment.

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So, to see the end result and to see the marriage of the old

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and the authentic with the new is very exciting to me,

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so it has been inspirational.

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Plus, you've told me a few things that I will definitely use,

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so, thank you.

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-Oh, my pleasure.

-Thank you very much.

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How are you feeling about your project,

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is it encouraging to see this?

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I think it's been incredibly useful,

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so to actually see that old wood can be used again

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and more old wood brought in,

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and actually get the look that I want, has been quite inspirational.

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Just reminding me of what I... to keep the vision.

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Later in the programme we'll be catching up with Alison again,

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and we'll find out if she's managed to stay true to her vision

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and realise her ambitious plans.

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There are many reasons why properties become derelict

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and fall into disuse.

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Last year, I visited an area of north London that had fallen foul

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of a road-wide new scheme back in the '60s that never materialised,

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leaving hundreds of homes falling into disrepair.

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The area around the North Circular here in Enfield has suffered

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decades of neglect. Years of problems with fly tipping,

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squatting, arson and vermin have made places uninhabitable.

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But with 75,000 people on London's waiting list,

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these homes are resources that need to be used.

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More than 40 years after the failed scheme,

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plans were finally put in place to regenerate the area.

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I went to meet Ken Barnett, the project manager

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for Notting Hill Housing Trust, to find out more.

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So, Ken, remind me.

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How did we get to a situation where so many properties along

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this A406, the North Circular, were just sitting empty for years.

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It started back in the 1960s when the Department Of Transport were

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starting to buy up properties,

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planning to make the road into a dual carriageway.

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That decision was subsequently shelved but in the meantime,

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total uncertainty and total blight of the area.

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The Housing Trust had purchased the buildings from Transport For London,

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and they were in the process of bringing them back into use.

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What's the cost of doing this? What sort of money is involved?

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We're spending just in excess of £10 million on refurbishment costs

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on that, and that includes the clean up of the gardens

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and everything where they were squatted.

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In terms of the works we're doing, we're doing broadly new roofs,

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new kitchens, new bathrooms.

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We're reconfiguring some of the properties, just to make them

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more usable, bringing them up to modern-day standards.

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And finally, what difference does this make? How important is it?

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I think the community is getting back on its feet following the blight

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and uncertainty, which has gone on for a long, long time.

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For so many years, when you drove down this road you just see

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boarded-up house after boarded-up house.

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But now finally the area is being brought back to life.

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Today, a year later, we've come back to the North Circular

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where the regeneration programme is almost finished.

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250 houses that were once squatted

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and derelict have been refurbished and families have started moving in.

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Danielle Lennon, one of Ken Barnett's colleagues,

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has come to talk to new residents about the impact the scheme

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has had on their lives.

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You've been here less than a month.

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How long were you actually waiting for a three-bedroom house?

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-I've been waiting for nine years.

-Nine years for a three-bedroom house?

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I think the existing residents here and then the new residents are

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really integrating with each other and becoming friends,

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joining up, visiting each other, helping each other out,

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which is really nice to see and really nice to hear.

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One of the new residents is Grace,

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who moved in with her family last summer.

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I know my neighbours, three of them, we just moved at the same time.

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Our kids like playing together, especially at summertime.

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We're taking each other's parcels

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and they are definitely good neighbours.

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Regenerating the area around the North Circular has brought

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a new lease of life, not just to the homes but also to the community.

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Just over here ago, I met theatre director Alison Grant,

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who had bought an abandoned cottage at auction.

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She was hoping to turn this derelict building

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into a picture-postcard retreat.

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Well, 14 months after our first meeting,

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I'm excited to be back on the rolling downs of East Sussex

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to see how Alison has been getting on with her ambitious project.

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From outside, there are signs of progress.

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But is Alison's 300-year-old cottage anywhere near being completed?

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I'd love to tell you that all the work's finished

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as she's moved into her dream home.

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But it's immediately obvious things haven't moved as quickly

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as Alison hoped.

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-Alison, hello, how are you?

-Good, thank you.

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Really good to see you.

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-It's lovely to be back in this stunning part of the world.

-Amazing.

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How has it all been going?

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-Well, that's an interesting question.

-My eye is drawn to the skip.

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-Yes, stuff is still coming out.

-OK.

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-Shall we go inside and see what has changed?

-Let's do.

-OK. After you.

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Ah, wow.

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-So that's the first thing. A staircase.

-Yes.

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That definitely wasn't here last time.

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We had ladders going up here, didn't we? How long has that been in for?

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This has been in... This was one of the first things that went in

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so it's probably been in about nine months now.

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And what you can't see is that this is all open up to the skylights.

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And there's going to be a curved banister going round

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-here for a mezzanine.

-Ah.

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-Is it all safe to go up there?

-Yes, indeed.

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-And we can have a look at your skylights.

-Lovely.

-After you.

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-We can try out your new staircase.

-Let's go.

-Excellent.

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Oh, wow.

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-And these are new, this is how you're bringing the light in?

-Yes.

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The whole purpose of bringing the light in and having this

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really open entryway is because I didn't want a dark, cottage-y feel.

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-I like cosy but I also wanted light and bright.

-Brilliant.

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-It's going to be lovely.

-Really does work.

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Yes, and the vision is to have a great big fan hanging down here,

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one of those old, opulent fans, and then maybe a chandelier.

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I don't know.

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-This is the bit you get really excited about?

-Yes.

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That's when I'll really come into my own,

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is when I'm actually trying to get the feel that I want.

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-That flair.

-The gypsy feel or the Moroccan feel or whatever.

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Do you imagine you might do that?

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-You'll have different themes in different rooms?

-Yes.

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The big master bedroom, I'm going to have a whole Moroccan theme in there

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with all sorts of deep reds and lovely Oriental pillows.

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It's going to be a Moroccan boudoir.

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Ooh. Very nice. Yes. Can I poke my head round the corner?

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Have there been any unexpected setbacks at all?

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One of the ones was the fact that the walls were slightly spreading.

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Once we'd taken all the interior walls out,

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it was not as stable as it could have been

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and so we've had to do a lot of framing in order to anchor the whole,

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to keep it in a square, to keep it all boxed so the roof didn't fall in.

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-So extra money, extra time, extra effort.

-Yes.

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It would've been lovely to have the right amount of cash

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at the beginning and just do it. That's the ideal way.

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But this is piecemeal and so, by its very essence,

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it's slightly frustrating, I have to say.

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I know the project probably hasn't gone as quickly as you'd wanted

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it to, but I guess, on the plus side,

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-your feel for the place increases.

-Yeah.

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I think that's exactly right.

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-Since I saw you last, I've now got a gorgeous little grandson.

-Oh, wow.

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-Who was born in April. Tyler.

-Congratulations.

-Yes.

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So, in a way, that's me becoming a grandmother and has made me

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want to create a home base and a space for the whole family.

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-That's lovely news.

-It somehow gives it a sense of purpose.

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It's so interesting to be back here to see Alison

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and see how she's getting on with her cottage.

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This is a really good example of the reality of taking on

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a big project. Unless you've got loads of cash and, let's face it,

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most of us don't, it is going to be slow, it is going to be frustrating.

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And it's probably going to cost more than we thought.

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But it's going to be great,

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and before long she really will have the most fantastic home for her,

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her children and, importantly, that new grandson.

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