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Across the United Kingdom, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
there are nearly a million homes lying unloved and unlived in, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
ready for someone to come along and give them a bright, new future. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
So, whether it's a tired semi, or a rambling mansion, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
we're on a mission to rescue Britain's Empty Homes. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Why buy somebody else's idea of a perfect home | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
when you could create your own? | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
You could, of course, build one from scratch | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
but how about taking on the bare bones of an existing property | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
and injecting it with your own sense of vision and style, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
giving it a whole new identity and a brand-new lease of life? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
Today, I'm passing on my own renovation knowledge | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
to help a couple who are searching for an old building | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
they can transform into their next home. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
Gorgeous, isn't it? I'm excited now. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
'I'll be getting them invaluable advice | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
'from experienced renovators who've done it all before.' | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
I tell you what, this is a cheap way of renovating things, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
-paint them on. -Fantastic. -Who needs a door? Paint it on. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
And we'll also be discovering | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
the challenges empty property officers face with neglected homes. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
There's a hole in the eaves | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
and that's where the pigeons are getting in. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Rescuing a wreck requires real vision and grit. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Often, taking on a dilapidated building | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
can seem like a pretty overwhelming task at first. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
But if you plan well and remain focused, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
not only do you stand to get the home of your dreams, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
but you'll also come away | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
with an enormous sense of satisfaction as well. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Tony and Michelle Kennedy recently sold their old, family house | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
and are currently renting whilst on the lookout for a major project | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
to turn into their perfect family pad. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
I think the opportunity just to create our dream place, isn't it? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
Something with a gorgeous view, good outside space for the kids. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
-Mwah. -The opportunity to have open-plan living, a nice big kitchen. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Being a mum, I spend quite a lot of time in the kitchen. So... | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
With £800,000 to buy and a further £400,000 for any renovation work, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
Tony and Michelle have a sizeable budget. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
But where they're looking, within an hour's commute of London for Tony's work, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
the detached properties they like do not come cheap, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
especially as they want a place with land. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
I think, probably, around an acre as a minimum | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
-would be a nice sort of space. -Yeah. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
But if it was two, or ten, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
-we'd, probably, think about it. -Ten? -Probably not. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
And while the couple have never taken on a large-scale project | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
of any kind before, their ambitions are big. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
When I grew up, my parents took on a large renovation project. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
Having seen it all once, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
-I kind of feel that it's something... -Get your hands dirty. -..that I'd like to do. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
Whilst Tony and Michelle are excited about the prospect of a big project, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
they still need to work out the scale of renovation | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
they would be prepared to take on. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
To help them make this decision, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
I've decided to set our wannabe builders a test. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
So, without me there to guide them, I'm sending Tony and Michelle off | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
to have a look at sort of empty property they could buy | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
to see if they've got the right attitude. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
And who knows, it might even tickle their taste buds. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Set in three acres of Hampshire countryside | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
with uninterrupted views, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
this former hop kiln is currently completely derelict. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
-Oh, my gosh. -It's a derelict house with a tin roof. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-It kind of looks like a shed. -Yeah. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Transforming a building like this into a home, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
even for experienced renovators, would be a challenge. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
But what will our amateurs, Tony and Michelle, make of it? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
-Wow. -Oh, my word. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-It's a total rebuild, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
On the market for £950,000, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
while this place would stretch their budget to the limit, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
the pay-off could be a stunningly unique family home. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-But will they see it? -It's a big, square nothing with a tin roof. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
It's... No. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
It's a big, square opportunity | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
with a tin roof covering a sensational, wooden roof. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Tony's right, this place is a fantastic opportunity | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
because it also comes with detailed planning permission | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
to create a spacious four-floored home with two towers. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
-You've got two garages, one in each kiln. -I like that, his-and-hers. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
That's really cool. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
I've always wanted a house with a tower. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:28 | |
-Now you've got two. -Two towers. Brilliant. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
And the architect estimates the basic costs to be around £550,000. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
It's gorgeous, isn't it? I'm excited now. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
So, if they were to take on a project of this size, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
just how would they tackle its transformation? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
My immediate thoughts are that we would project manage it. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
We would bring in all of the separate craftsmen and so on. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:57 | |
We wouldn't outsource that. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
We wouldn't hand it over to someone to build the property. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
I found it quite hard to visualise anything. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Once we were given some of the drawings, that really, really helped. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
It got me excited about it, actually. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
I felt really, you know, "Wow, this could be amazing." | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
You see a derelict building, you see fantastic plans and you go, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
"How do you go from one to the other?" | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
The two ends of the journey is, you know, quite a daunting thing. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:26 | |
Large renovations needn't be intimidating | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
as long as they're well-planned. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
But taking on an unconventional building does require | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
more preparation than most. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
So, I want to allay any concerns that our couple have | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
by introducing them to other homeowners | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
with lots of renovation experience. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
With Tony unable to join us, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
it's up to Michelle to learn what she can. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Well, Michelle, now we've got the chance to show you, I think, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
quite an interesting and very extensive renovation in progress. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
But Tony can't be with us today so it's all down to you, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
-you're the fact-finder. -Yeah, I know. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
It's a bit of pressure on me today to get everything ticked off | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and find out all about it. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
-Well, let's see what you make of it. -OK. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
Miriam Maxim and Christopher Harris just knew | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
this 16th-century cottage was destined to become theirs | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
when it was put on the market back in 2003, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
having been empty for a year. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
I think the first thing I saw was the pond | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
which absolutely fascinated me. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
And then, this amazing, chocolate-box house behind it. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
It was quite stunning | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
and I never thought we could ever own a property like this. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
It had the space, size | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
and an enormous amount of scope to doing exactly what we want. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
They bought it for £670,000 | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and spent a further £350,000 renovating it. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
We are in the fortunate position that I could stop work | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
and that meant that I could dedicate my time to helping the builders | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
when I could, getting my hands, actually, on the lime mortar | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
and working on it. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
The build has taken five years, so far, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
and it's still a work in progress. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
I was describing to Michelle, on our way down here, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
that, you know, it's a very big, extensive property, this. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
It's had a lot added to it over the years and a bit taken away. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Give us the story, Christopher. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
Originally, this is a 16th-century cottage, in the centre of the house. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Then we've got Georgian, Victorian pieces over this side, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
a stable block that's joined to the house. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
And then, the whole thing was knitted together in the '50s. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
This was, originally, a two-storey cottage with its kitchen-garden. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
But now, clearly, that conservatory arrangement isn't period, is it? | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
This is a work in progress. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Our intention is to remove this conservatory | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
which was erected as an emergency in the 1990s. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
We hope to reveal the front elevation | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
as it would have been in Elizabethan, Victorian times. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
Interesting. What do you think? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
I'm amazed. I think it looks amazing. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
I can't wait to see what it's like inside. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
You know, just the whole complex of different periods of history | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
coming together as one, will be fascinating. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Let's go and have a look inside. Come on. After you. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Ah, now then, this is more like it, isn't it? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
-This feels very period to me. -This was one of the first rooms we did. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
And there was a suspended ceiling here. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
We had no idea these beams were underneath. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
We had no idea about this fireplace. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
You had no idea that that huge inglenook was there? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Can you imagine taking off a few bricks and tiles and then thinking, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
"Oh, my goodness me, there's a void behind here." | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
It's fantastic, isn't it? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
It's just so full of character which you wouldn't have got with, like you said, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
that suspended ceiling and all of this. It's brilliant. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
I think what we've tried to show here | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
is something that we're sympathetic to the rest of the building. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
We raised the beams to create a feeling of light and space. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
It's gorgeous, isn't it? It's fantastic. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
So, this was a separate thing? | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
-This wasn't all... -Just a garage. -Just a garage, wow. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
These flagstones are gorgeous. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
-Were they here? -No, we found those. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
These were originally designed for St Paul's Cathedral. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
They made a lot of extra tiles when St Paul's was redoing their crypt. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
I think they add everything to this kitchen. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
But you've also undertaken quite a lot of the work yourselves, haven't you? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
I mean, one of the things I know that Michelle is keen to find out | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
is how much any of us can take on in a renovation. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-Give us an idea what you've done. -It's been such wonderful fun. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
But I've been taught how to use lime mortar | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
and I've learnt how to knap flints | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
and I'm actually building a flint wall. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
It's not that difficult. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
If you've iced a cake, you can ice a wall quite easily. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
It's a nice analogy, though. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
I mean, are you up to that kind of thing, you and Tony? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Definitely up for finding out how to do things. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
Yeah, definitely want to get our hands muddy, as it were. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
And get into doing stuff like that. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
It's also wonderful to be adding our bit to this building | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
because it's, the original bit is 1580s. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Everyone, the Georgians, the Victorians | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
and now us in the 21st century have added our bit. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
And we've had a lot of fun going around reclamation yards. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
And finding and sourcing the right kind of material. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
That door came from a skip down in Devon. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
That's now a traditional larder. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-Ah-ha-ha, clever. -Larder door. -Yeah, I like that. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-Brilliant. So, everything just breathes inside. -Yeah. -Brilliant. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
We're now in the old part of the house again. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Oh, what do you think of this, Michelle? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
That's just lovely, isn't it? It's really lovely. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
This floor was supported below by luck, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
that's what, according to our builder, it was. You can see the way it slopes. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
But we've revealed these lovely boards which we wanted to retain. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
And what's going on with this fake door? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
-That's what's called a trompe l'oeil, I think. -Yeah. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
And, under layers of wallpaper, we found the remains of that door | 0:10:50 | 0:10:56 | |
and we restored it to what we think it should have been | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
to reflect the door on the other side of the room. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
It was make the house look bigger than it was | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
because that's the chimney brace | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
and that's where the house used to end. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
I tell you want, this is a cheap way of renovating things, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-just paint them on. -Fantastic. -Who needs a door? Just paint it on. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
I mean, Michelle, we've had a brief look at this piece of history. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
What's your view now on starting from scratch | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
and going for a new-build or taking on an old building like this one? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
It's just completely changed my mind about it all. It's just lovely. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
I love the idea of getting something back, if you like, from history. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
-I love that. It's just gorgeous. -What do you think Tony would make of it? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
I think he'd be sold on it. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
-Really? -Yeah, I do. I'm really, really gutted he's not here with me. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
But what, kind of, top tips can you leave Michelle with, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
from your experience, the pair of you? | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Get expert advice. Always try and find a builder, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
we had a builder who came and saw the project beforehand, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
spent half an hour before the meeting just getting to know the place, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
so that he could give us sound advice from day one. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
We've used an architect as well who has been able to do | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
all the tricky negotiations with the authorities | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
and that's saved us one hell of a headache. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-Fantastic. -And whatever you do, don't project manage this yourself, OK? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-Right. -I really give you that piece of advice. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
-You don't have the expertise or the knowledge. -Great. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-I will underline that so Tony can see that. -Brilliant. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Well, look, we have just touched the surface. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
I'm going to let you three explore this beautiful building | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
a little longer and I'll catch up with you outside. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Enjoy. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
You can't fail to be impressed | 0:12:35 | 0:12:36 | |
by Miriam and Christopher's passion for their home. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
It truly is a heartfelt restoration | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
and I hope their enthusiasm has rubbed off on Michelle. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
Later, I'll be taking Michelle to see a finished project | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
which I think will show her you don't need experience in big renovations | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
to turn a wreck into a wonderful home. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
Wow. I love the open spaces. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Somewhere on a street near you, there is a house | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
that was once somebody's much-loved home, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
but now, it's abandoned and alone. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
It's the job of empty property officers all over the country | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
to track down these abandoned buildings | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
and do what they can to get them lived in again. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
And in the London Borough of Southwark, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
this challenge is down to officers Celia Esimaje | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
and Michelle Williams. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
They've been responsible for bringing nearly 1,500 homes | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
back into use since 1996. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
And this year, their target is to transform another 135. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Today, they're on their way to a Georgian townhouse | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
which, until recently, was in such a poor state | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
it was on the national Buildings At Risk Register. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
It has taken a long time to get this property back into use. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I mean, we're talking 2004 to now. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Wow, but that's what happens sometimes. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
You've just got to work with owners and help them keep their momentum. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
But we got there in the end. So, let's go and have a look. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
The building was rescued in 2004 by its current owner, Agi Stylianides. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
With a small government loan of £45,000 | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
and £300,000 of his own money, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
he has not only returned the building to its former glory | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
but created three flats to rent solely to people | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
on the council's housing list. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Wow. Nice and bright. Wow, we've got here. Six years. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:24 | |
-Got the three flats in the end. -Celia's been no end of help. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
She's stood by me all the way. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Unfortunately, it's taken us two years to get it to the standard | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
that I wanted, which is so the house can last another 200 years. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:39 | |
And can be in the hands of the council for their tenants to enjoy. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
To work with an owner, to see a property right through to the end, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
and to know that, basically, this is going be somebody's home | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
and it's public funding that's helped to contribute to the schemes. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
So, we want to make sure that we are, actually, getting quality work. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
-Good stuff. Are you pleased? -I'm pleased. I just hope you're happy? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
No, we are. Thanks ever so much. All the best. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
Yeah, that's great. Three two-bedroom flats. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
These will be available for Southwark residents. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
-It's a good result all round. Well done. -Definitely. -That's three off the target. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
So, this former wreck can now stand proud as someone's home once more. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
Renovating a house doesn't need to be done all at once. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Transforming it in stages can be the best way to do it | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
on a limited budget. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
Which is just what Sherina Agassi is doing | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
with her large, Victorian semi in Southeast London. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Sherina bought the house in 2005 for £320,000, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
after it had been standing empty for two years. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Then, she set about gradually turning it into the ideal home | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
for her family. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Initially, when we walked up towards the house, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
it looked really gloomy. It was red doors, red windows. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
And we walked through the door and it was like, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
"This is horrendous, what have I done?!" | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
But then there was calm | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
because I knew if we could really pull this off, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
it would be an absolutely lovely home | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
that I couldn't possibly afford other than this way. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
The first room that you walked into, it was a sort of brownish colour, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
everything was brown and grey, and dark blue. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
It was just not very inviting at all. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
And then we went in through the second lounge and that was massive. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
But, of course, totally neglected. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
As money was tight, Sherina embarked on a renovation | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
which took two years and involved her getting stuck in, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
doing as much work as possible herself. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
The garden was completely overgrown. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
There were lots of tips of rubbish and debris everywhere. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
But it was, actually, the willow tree that sold me the house. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
With the transformation costing £32,000, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
Sherina's total outlay was just under £350,000. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
She's created a wonderful family home, valued at 600 grand. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
So, taking on an abandoned house has certainly paid off for her. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
If you plan, and you're able to think of it on a creative level, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
you can actually buy your dream, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
but you will have to take a risk in doing so. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
It's hard, don't get me wrong, and it's challenging, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
but it's certainly possible. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
It's 100% worth it. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Tony and Michelle have sold their four-bedroom house | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
and want to find a vacant building with land | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
to transform into their new family home. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
They've seen an old hop kiln brimming with potential | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
and panoramic views. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Having seen what can be done with challenging restorations, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
I now want to show Michelle a spectacular barn conversion | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
which may provide some inspiring solutions | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
as to what to do with the hop kiln. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Feast your eyes on that. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
-Wow. -Yeah? -Gosh, it's absolutely gorgeous. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
JULES LAUGHS | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
-Wow. -But would you have wanted it when it looked like this? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
-LAUGHTER -It was a complete wreck. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
Just a cow shed, never been anything other than that. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Now, of course, it's a wonderful family home. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
But the journey from this to that | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
is what you could be letting yourselves in for. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
That's exciting. That's scary. LAUGHTER | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-What would Tony say? -He'd probably go, "Yeah, brilliant. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
"Brilliant, up for it, great." | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-Well, let's go and figure out how you do it and meet the owners. -OK. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
When Margo Alfrey and Douglas Gee took on | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
these 200-year-old dairy barns in East Sussex, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
they knew they'd found somewhere to create a home in the country | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
where they could bring up a family. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
When we started to think about having a family | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
and moving out of London, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
that's when we saw the property and thought it had potential to be a home for us. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
But it was quite a big vision because at that stage, when we saw the property, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
it was completely run-down, completely dilapidated | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
and I think a lot of our friends and family thought | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
this was a bit too ambitious a project to go for. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
We could turn it into our dream home. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
With the budget that we had, we could end up with a property | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
that we felt would last many, many years. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
And to create the space that we thought would be ideal | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
for us as a family. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:38 | |
Although the dairy barns hadn't been used for 60 years, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
they still had to be reclassified for domestic use | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
which meant Margo and Douglas had to spend three years | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
getting planning permission. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
This was the original hay barn. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
So, here, you had where the carts came in with the hay | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
and then would go out through there. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
And it just meant that we would be able to get doors | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
that would open right open so that, for instance, if we have parties | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
or with children, the space would feel open, light, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
you can move through it all the time. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
-What do you reckon? -Wow. I love the open spaces. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
I love the way the doors, sort of, mirror each other as well. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Just giving that sense of outdoorsiness to it, even further. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
-It's fantastic. -That's kind of you. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
One of the things we did do was meet with people that had done barn conversions. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Margo got upset with me going out and buying lots of books on barns. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
But it was a good way of finding out who's done barn conversions before. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Is there a club? Did you have meetings? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
The, sort of, yeah, The Barn Owl Club. No, no, we didn't. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
But what we did do was we found out about | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
which architects had done what barns | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Then we were able to go out and meet the owners and talk to them. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
But the finish here. What would Tony think if he walked in here now? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Same as me, he'd love the windows. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
I'm sure and the beams, they are just beautiful. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
Have you seen the kitchen? Look at this, this is lovely. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
This is terrific. Is this all locally-made? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
We used a local carpenter | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
and working directly with someone who uses wood every day, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
he gave us some great advice. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Do you know what I love about it? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
It's very easy, in a barn conversion, to slot in extra floors. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Here you haven't had to do that. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
You've been able to leave the bulk of the main barn itself entire, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
if you like. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
The pitch of this barn is steep. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
We looked at putting another floor in and we realised | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
we were going to lose what we wanted. We wanted that open feel, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
that wow factor when you come into your kitchen, living space. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
We're lucky that the barn, the hay barn runs into an old cow byre | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
where we've been able to have all our bedrooms. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
So, we've got our smaller spaces there. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
We've kept our accommodation in there | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
without impacting and losing our open-plan living space. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
Now then, we've alluded to your other accommodation, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
bedrooms and so forth. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
Because it is on one level. Effectively, it's a bungalow. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
It is, exactly. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
Basically, we live in a glorified bungalow. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
I think this is an interesting idea to take away, Michelle. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
You've got everything kind of zoned very much, in that, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
you've got day-to-day living in the barn | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
which whilst imposing is still a very manageable, modest size here. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Then everything else in this series of outbuildings, all on one level. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-Is that something you'd take away? -Definitely. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
I don't think we'd thought about it before. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
But, yeah, it works, doesn't it? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
What would be your parting thoughts for Michelle, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
who's heading off to take on | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
this kind of project with her partner, Tony? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
I suppose, we talked about it and the first one for us, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
is understand the local planning law. It's important. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
And hire someone to help you if you don't. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
The second thing we talked about was take time | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
to find the right team to work with you, both the architect and then, in turn, builder. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
The third thing was really create | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
a very detailed specification document | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
so that you're going down to almost the window fitting level | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
so that when you do go out for a tender, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
you know you're tendering for the whole thing. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
And it's almost a turn-key type project. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
For us, in our stage in life with two small children, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
-that was the right solution for us. -Well, guys, congratulations. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
-Sadly, it's not for sale, Michelle. -Oh. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
-If it was, you'd be in. -Definitely. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
Meanwhile, back in the London Borough of Southwark, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
empty property officers Celia Esimaje | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
and Michelle Williams are responding to a call about an empty house | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
that's been on their books for a while. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
There was a complaint from a neighbour | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
saying there was an infestation of pigeons, basically, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
getting into the empty property | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
and, also, causing problems with their property | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
and just wanted us to find out what was going on. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
There it is. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:46 | |
Because of the diseases they carry, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
pigeons are considered a public health hazard. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
Once they've gained access to a building, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
they cause damage with their droppings | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
that corrode floorboards and block drains and guttering. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
-The hole in the roof is at the side. -Right. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
And the house has been a cause of concern for the neighbours. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
It's a worry that it's, structurally, falling down, for a start. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
And the pigeons and the squirrels as well. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
At one point the squirrels got into my loft | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
and I had to get vermin control to come and remove them | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
because they were keeping us awake. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Celia and Michelle are aware the house has been left empty | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
for approximately three years | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
as the owner intends to eventually renovate it. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
They've blocked off the letter box. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Even the porch looks like it's coming away a bit. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
-The garden's all overgrown. -There's a hole in the side, in the eaves. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
And that's where the pigeons are getting in. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
The neighbours at the back have also complained, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
so, they're getting in all over the roof. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
Celia gathers evidence should she need to take further action | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
in forcing the owner to make repairs. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
So what we'll do now, we'll get in touch with the owner | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
to find out if they have got some sort of timetable of works | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
and also see if they need any assistance, any guidance. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
And since filming, she's successfully contacted the owner, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
who has now repaired the gap in the roof. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
I've taken wannabe renovator Michelle Kennedy | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
to see a couple of impressive former empty homes | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
to try and inspire her as to what can be achieved. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
Now, then, Michelle, we've seen two quite interesting properties today | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
which have involved some very extensive renovations, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
to say the least. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
-Have they put you off this idea? -No, not at all. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
It's just they're very different in how they've approached things. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
One being enormously historical, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
another being, virtually, a complete a new-build. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
It's really given a lot of food for thought. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
What are you going to tell Tony? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:43 | |
What's going to be on the list of the do's and don'ts. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
One, really be careful of planning. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Two, definitely get a project manager in. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
And three, you know, I think I just feel really inspired | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
and encouraged by it. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
So I think I'll take that enthusiasm home with me as well. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
But can you cast your mind back to that empty property | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
that we showed you and Tony? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
You were pretty daunted by it. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
What about now that you've seen what can be done? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
You're absolutely right. It terrified me when I first saw it. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
But having just seen these two and having seen the plans, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
I feel, actually, more excited by it. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Much less daunted. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
Is it one that you would consider taking on | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
or is it just a useful example? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
I think there's, I think it's definitely worth talking about | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
in much more detail. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
Interesting. So, Tony might get more than he bargained for out of this. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
It'll be the last time he sends you off looking at empty properties? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Definitely. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
Well, having shown Michelle, I think, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
two very interesting and extensive renovations, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
I think she's firmly convinced that a renovation is the way to go. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
Both of today's examples have taken at least five years to complete. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
Where will Tony and Michelle be in five years' time, I wonder? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Who knows? | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
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