Bryan and Mari-Ann Kaushiva Britain's Empty Homes


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Across the country, empty properties that could be homes

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are waiting to be brought back into use.

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I'll be finding out why

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and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself

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Along the way, I'll do some digging of my own to find out more

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about our housing stock, our heritage, and why we should be both

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reinventing and preserving Britain's empty homes.

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Buying and renovating a derelict property is no mean feat.

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It has the potential to be stressful and expensive,

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especially if you haven't done it before.

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But for those with a vision who are prepared to put in the hard work

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the results can be spectacular.

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'On today's show, I'll be meeting a brave pair of renovators

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'who have taken on an extraordinary challenge.'

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This is a big job.

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'I'll be finding out about a historical building

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'rescued from demolition.'

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-So that was you very much taking a stand?

-Yes.

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'And we'll join an empty property officer

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'on a mission to save derelict homes from falling into disrepair.'

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One window goes, two windows go, a third window goes.

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It becomes a target, doesn't it?

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Brian and Marianne, who live in Yorkshire,

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are about to embark on an ambitious project

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to turn a dilapidated stone property

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into a modern, open-plan home for their young family.

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The family were living in America but Marianne is a Yorkshire lass

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and, as her young family expanded, she felt the pull of home.

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We moved into Walton, which was a rural type of village

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on Brian's request, cos he likes village scenes, being from America.

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It was in this picturesque Yorkshire village that they spotted a property

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which completely changed their lives.

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I were pushing Ana Maria back and forth on a swing.

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Just behind the swings,

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you end up looking at this very big, austere-looking stone property.

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It was love at first sight, and although neither of them

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had much renovation experience, they decided to go for it.

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A big part of it was the potential that we saw in it.

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We could buy a very ordinary house with a postage-stamp sized garden,

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or, for a similar type of investment, but a lot more risk,

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we could have a great property.

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With two young children and full-time jobs to juggle,

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Brian and Marianne have a lot on their plate.

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I'm meeting up with them to find out more about their plans.

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Later, I'll be introducing them to a couple who did a similar renovation

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and are now reaping the benefits.

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-Hello, you must be Marianne?

-It is. That's right.

-And Brian.

-Nice to meet you.

-Hello.

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-Tell me about this. This is yours, isn't it?

-This is our new house. Absolutely.

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What a building and what do you know about it?

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-It's been there since 1867.

-Wow.

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It was built to be a training school, a launderette and cookery school for local girls.

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This really impressive lady called Mary Pilkington had it purpose-built,

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hence all the chimney pots on top of it, to be able to run the school.

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Wow. Mary Pilkington's cooking and laundry school.

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-I'm itching to look inside. Can we?

-Of course.

-Brilliant. Lead the way.

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'The house has been empty since 1975 when its last occupants moved out.

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'Brian and Marianne are still in the process of deciding exactly

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'what they want to do with what is effectively a blank canvas.'

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Wow! To state the obvious, guys, there's not a lot here, is there?

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This is a big job.

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So this building has been empty for 35 years.

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Your neighbours, the local community, must be so happy

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that someone has been brave enough to take this on.

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They're behind us every step of the way which is lovely.

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Deep down, they all want to own it.

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A lot of people have said, "I'm really envious of you."

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Not the hard work, but actually owning it.

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So that's exciting for us.

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This is a landmark building.

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One of the earliest examples of a cooking and laundry school I know.

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Some in the 1880s and 1890s but this is an early one.

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Then it becomes a landmark for the wrong reasons.

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Empty for 35 years,

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but now you want to change that and bring it to life once more.

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If you go to the library and pull out the book, The History Of Walton,

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they describe the three historic structures of this part of Walton,

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and this is one of them.

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The author very dejectedly describes this half of the building

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saying, after all these years of vandalism and theft,

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it's probably beyond all recovery.

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-Makes us more determined.

-Does it?

-Very motivating.

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When you first looked in, did you maybe agree with them a little bit

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and think maybe it is a bit beyond repair?

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It's the outer limits of what we would ever take on.

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-It's a big risk and it's a stretch.

-Right.

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But because the shell is so good, we thought maybe it's worth it.

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-Shall we have a bit of a tour? Let's have a look round.

-Sure.

-Sure.

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'Brian and Marianne hope to turn the downstairs space

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'into two main areas.

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'A living room and an open-plan family kitchen.'

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This will be the kitchen.

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It has everything, including the kitchen sink.

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Exactly, just about, anyway.

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-I can see upstairs. Can we get up there? Is that possible?

-We can do.

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Back that way, up the ladder, yes.

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'Upstairs, they are planning two children's bedrooms, a guest room

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'and a bright, airy master bedroom.'

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It's nice to be here with light coming in.

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You have the chimneys to work with everywhere in this house.

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The fireplaces are all different

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every time you get back to the original brickwork.

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So, this one, you can see had just the Yorkshire block

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and probably had a very simple coal burning thing in front of it.

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Yeah, very narrow.

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Whereas, the brickwork on that one has the arch and was a more decorative piece.

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'The couple spent £300,000 on the property

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'and with a modest budget of between £50,000-£80,000 for renovation,

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'they have an almighty challenge ahead of them.

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'Brian is going to have to do the gutting and the groundwork himself

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'before he even starts to think about employing tradesmen.

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'On this budget, they can't afford to make any mistakes.

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'At the back of the property is half an acre of garden with orchard.

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'The couple plan a children's tree house and vegetable plot.'

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It's big, isn't it? This could be a great garden.

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It was prickles and brambles up to here, initially,

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so Brian dug out all the nettles but it's absolutely full of weeds again

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so it's going to be a complete ongoing battle with it.

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'Later I'll be showing Brian and Marianne

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'a former farmhouse that just 18 months ago,

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'was in the same derelict state as theirs

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'in the hope they will pick up some useful tips and inspiration

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'from the owners.'

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But it isn't just historical buildings in need of salvation.

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Up and down the country, it's the job of empty property officers

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to try to revive the fortunes of Britain's forgotten homes.

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Mike Thompson is empty property officer for Thanet in Kent.

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He's a man on a mission to save this coastal region's forgotten homes.

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The government sets targets of building thousands of new homes.

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There's these properties laying empty wanting to be brought back to use.

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I retire in just under 12 months

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and it's my mission to leave a legacy of my work behind me.

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Working as a one-man band,

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Mike's responsible for 3,000 empty buildings across the Kent coast.

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Behind every empty property is a story.

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A story I like to get a handle on and get to know.

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The growth of package holidays in the 1980s left its mark

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on our seaside towns.

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As more Brits decided to holiday abroad,

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once splendid hotels were left empty.

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Today Mike's in Margate to check out the progress on his latest project.

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I'm on my way now to the former Warren Court Hotel

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where we have a radical solution to save the beautiful frontages.

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I'm here today to meet the architect and the developer

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to see the sort of progress they are making.

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Mike's current concern is this beautiful double-fronted

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period property which was previously a school

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before being turned into the Warren Court Hotel

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at the height of Margate's tourism boom.

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The hotel closed down nine years ago and has been vacant ever since.

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A magnet for vandals and drug users, and subjected to two arson attacks,

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this vermin-infested property became a health hazard to its neighbours.

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Mike and the Kent Council made a compulsory purchase of the property

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and are working with a local developer

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to turn the hotel into quality social housing.

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This is an ambitious project, as all that remains is the facade.

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-What have we got here, Tanya?

-This is the proposed plan for the site.

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Inside there will be a total of 20 new residences -

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12 new houses and eight flats.

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We have two semi-detached units there.

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We obviously have the front terrace

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and then we've got the terrace of three units

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and rear garden to the dwellings.

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A hi-tech scaffold structure has been erected to prop up the facade,

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preserving the Georgian portico, bay windows and front steps

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while the work commences on the flank and rear walls.

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But working in a conservation area has given the developers

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some serious design challenges.

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It was important for the buildings to relate to the surrounding site

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and, obviously, the buildings are very tall.

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We raised the building by a metre

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and also the floor-to-ceiling heights are very generous compared to modern standards.

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Those things together worked to get as grand and tall a building as possible.

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And the retention of things like balconies and canopies is fantastic, isn't it?

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Picking that architectural detail.

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-It finishes off the square.

-Indeed.

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To get your hands on the project of this magnitude and bring something of real benefit to the community,

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providing 20 family homes, is really exciting and something

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I am really proud to have hung my hat on.

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It is the icing on the cake for me.

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Empty property officers aren't the only individuals

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who can spot potential in old and empty buildings.

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That said, it does take a certain type of person to see past the dirt, dust and dilapidation.

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But, with vision, backbone and bags of patience,

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you too could find your ideal abode in an empty home.

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In July 2008, Gary and Colette Dudley bought a Victorian chapel

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by the sea in Gwynedd, North Wales.

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Built in the 1880s and with 80% of the original stained glass still in place,

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it was an empty shell with heaps of potential,

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and the couple couldn't resist paying the £190,000 price tag.

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When I walked into this building first,

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the feeling I got was of being protected,

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like my heart was in its hands, if I can say that.

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It sounds crazy but it was like a love affair with the building.

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It wasn't at all austere.

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It was just a lovely, warm feeling when you walked in.

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That's how I felt when I saw it.

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And I thought, whoopee! Another 12 months of hard work!

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Long days, long nights, more bumps and bangs, but...

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the location, the position and everything about the place is a fantastic place to live.

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Closed in the late 1950s, it has been empty on and off for the last 60 years.

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There was nothing in here. There was no kitchen, nothing.

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It was like posh camping.

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Virtually camping out in an old church hall.

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We did have a few interesting interruptions

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where people still thought it was a chapel and it was open.

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We'd have the general public just walking through the door to see what was going on.

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A builder by trade, Gary did all the work himself,

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taking just under a year to complete the renovations.

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I prefer to use old materials. I like things to look quirky

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and I want everything to suit

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and fit into the building.

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The open, airy spaces are the perfect place to showcase their eclectic taste.

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People shouldn't be frightened by buying chapels.

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They were built to last.

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These walls are two-and-a-half feet thick.

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Whether you cut them in half or make them boxes inside,

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or whether you go with the whole space,

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they are fantastic places to live.

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-We love living here, don't we?

-We love it.

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Back in Yorkshire, Brian and Marianne are renovating a 19th century schoolhouse.

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Later, I'll take them to visit a fabulous converted Georgian property.

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First, I'm keen to find out more about their new home.

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Marianne and Brian have clearly got a real piece of history

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and, although not everyone is lucky enough to own a property with such a rich and tangible past,

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every building has a story

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and it may often be more intriguing than you'd think.

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Dr Libby Scott has been living in the adjoining house since 1982.

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Over the years, she has collected old photographs,

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postcards and press cuttings

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relating to the house and the local area.

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This was part of a very established estate, wasn't it?

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Yes. The Pilkington family were landowners and owned part of the village.

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Mary Pilkington was the village benefactress.

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Boys had jobs. They could be apprentices, they could work on the fields.

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But girls didn't have much chance for education or a trade,

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so she set up this building as a laundry school.

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-You have also got some photos of how it used to be, is that right?

-Yes, this is well over 100 years ago.

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A little boy, I think he is wearing knickerbockers, standing outside.

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There is a photograph here that was taken some time in the 1920s.

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Wow! It's very bold, isn't it? A lovely picture.

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Despite its rich historical past,

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the ex-laundry school was nearly knocked down in 1992

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when developers planned to create an access road

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for 150 new-build houses.

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There was a notice pinned on the front door

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saying the developers were going to knock it down within a fortnight.

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So I decided to launch a campaign.

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-That was you very much taking a stand and leading from the front.

-Yes.

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Libby's campaign paid off and the building was saved,

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in the name of historical interest.

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It is an amazing building

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and now there is a couple who want to return it to its former glory.

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I'm really pleased that, at last, we have neighbours.

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It will make quite a difference to our property when we have people living next door.

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Yeah. Thank goodness it's still standing!

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There are many ways to find out more about the previous life of your property.

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If it's of historical interest, your council will have an officer

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who can tell you more about the building.

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Census information or electoral registers mean you can find out more about the previous owners

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and, as we've seen, it's important to ask around.

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Members of the local community can often be

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the most valuable source of information.

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Luckily for Brian and Marianne they had vigilant and proactive neighbours

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who helped save their future home.

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But that was just the beginning. There's a long, long way to go.

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I think you need such unrelenting confidence for a project this big and this daunting.

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They haven't decided on style or layout and exactly where everything will go,

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but I will try and inspire them with a vision of how the property could be.

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Guys, glance this way.

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This is what I brought you to see. First impressions?

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-Wow!

-Stunning. That's a gorgeous property.

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A year ago, this was in a very similar state

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to how your property is now.

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That is hard to believe.

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This was a farmhouse from about 1769, I believe,

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so about 100 years before yours,

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and it was used as a farmhouse right up until the 1980s.

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-It fell into disrepair and it has just been brought back to life.

-Wow!

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-It is immaculate. It's beautiful.

-A lot of hard work gone in there!

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-Are we ready to have a look inside?

-That would be great.

-OK.

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When John and Pen bought this detached Grade 2 listed farmhouse in Shropshire,

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it had been standing empty for four years.

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We fell in love with the area and when we drove around the corner

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into the most amazing village and saw the house it was like, oh my God!

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Both of us grabbed each other.

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We're not too sure what it was about the house but it appealed to us.

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Despite its dilapidated condition,

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John and Pen could spot its enormous charm and potential.

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It was a mess but it had a nice feel to it.

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It's about whether you feel you can fit into that property and live in it.

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The farmhouse had been divided in two

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and they spent the last 11 months making it whole again

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and fully renovating the entire building.

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You're sort of restoring part of Britain's heritage. You can take great pride in that.

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Right, so Pen and John,

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tell Brian and Marianne what it has been like.

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You have just been through this renovation. How tough has it been?

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It has been hard work. It has been 11 months of really hard graft.

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But, as you can see, the results have made it well worth it.

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I think what you have to realise is, it might look really dreadful to start with,

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but there is light at the end of the tunnel and you will end up with a fantastic home.

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How bad was it?

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These guys are dealing with a shell. How basic was it for you?

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As an example, behind you, under that dining room table,

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we basically had to completely remove all of the floor joists because they were rotten

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and you could see from the bedroom above,

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all the way down to the cellars.

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At that point, your heart sinks and you think, is this ever going to end?

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-How much worse can it get?

-Where did you live while this was happening?

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We actually lived in the house.

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So we moved around the house as the work was done.

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-We had four temporary kitchens.

-It was in here for about three months.

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If you're thinking about living through the build, it is very hard both emotionally and physically.

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If you've got young children, I would seriously consider renting somewhere,

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rather than living through it.

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When you started out, did you have a timeline in mind?

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When we bought the house, it was, right, this will be a 12-month project.

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It is very important to have a plan and know what goals you're aiming for

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because if you don't have that, it will never happen.

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Guys, we'd love to look around the rest of the house so lead the way.

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Downstairs, John and Pen have created three reception rooms,

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a dining room with adjoining drinks room and a spacious kitchen diner.

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Upstairs, there are six stunning bedrooms and five bathrooms.

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-So, you've exposed some bricks in the corner?

-We have.

-A chimney?

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Yes, that's a chimney.

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This was a loo.

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When we came in, this was small, narrow, dark, horrid.

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So we took it out, exposed the brickwork

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and created a much more characterful room, we think.

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-It's great, isn't it?

-After you.

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John and Pen have made design features out of the many stone chimneys in their farmhouse -

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a trick which Brian and Marianne could usefully employ in their conversion.

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Guys, this is a stunning kitchen. What do you make of it?

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Really impressive.

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One of the key parallels between your two properties is just chimneys everywhere.

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-Were they structurally sound?

-No.

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We knew they were a mess when we came in.

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You could see there was water dripping down the outsides.

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What paint there was had bubbled and cracked, so we knew that we had big issues.

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If a chimney falls, it's extremely dangerous - it could take out half your house or even kill someone.

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How did you make them safe?

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We got the scaffolding straight up and got it all stabilised.

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That's one of the first things.

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Does this help? You have chimneys at each end of your kitchen.

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Seeing something opened up, is it something you'd consider?

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Yes, and looking at the photos of what it used to be like

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and that is pretty much our place - how this used to be.

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This is very effectively what we are looking for.

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Even though this house is bigger,

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you'll still have the same number of decisions to make.

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You'll have the same number of paint choices to make,

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structural decisions to make that we had here.

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-I'm looking forward to just having to choose paint!

-Can you imagine!

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Thank you so much. It has been such a privilege looking round

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and I really hope it's given you a bit of inspiration

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and encouragement as well that you can get to this stage.

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It has given us some really nice insight into how homely

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you can make a complete wreck.

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-Pen and John, thank you so much.

-Nice to meet you.

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I'll be catching up with Brian and Marianne later to find out their thoughts on Pen and John's home

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and to see whether they can take away any useful tips

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to employ on their own building.

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Back in Margate, empty property officer Mike Thomson

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has been called in to investigate a bit of a mystery.

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A deserted mid-terraced house may be causing its neighbours distress.

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Water has been pouring into the communal hallway

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of the house next door, leaving extensive damage.

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Mike's visiting the scene with his trainee, Andy,

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to work out if the property is indeed the root of the problem.

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-I don't think that was broken last time I came, do you?

-No.

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That's the trouble, isn't it? Long-term empty,

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one window goes, two windows go,

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third window goes and it's progressive.

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-It becomes a target.

-It does.

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-I'm amazed people can afford to have something like this sitting here doing nothing.

-Yes.

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-Why should it look like that in the street scene?

-Exactly.

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At first sight, Mike things the leak may be the result of blocked gutters on the empty building.

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-What do you reckon about the gutters?

-It's blocked across both properties.

-Absolutely.

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Weeds growing out of it. It is chock-a-block with rubbish.

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Then we've got problems with the roof. A lot of slates off. You can see them on the gable.

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Yes, big holes right the way through.

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They hope the managing agent of the neighbouring property will be able to shed some light on the mystery.

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This is the problem just here.

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-Let us put the damp meter on and see what we get.

-OK.

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If Mike finds the damp problem is being caused by the empty property,

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he can track down the owners and force them to have it fixed.

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Not necessarily what you'd expect because it's not in an area

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-which we would tie in with anything we thought.

-Not on the externals.

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But the managing agent thinks he may have worked out the problem.

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The property next door was broken into

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and they stole the copper pipes with the water on

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-and I think that is what has caused the dampness to come through.

-Yep.

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Not only are empty properties

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a magnet for damp, vermin and anti-social behaviour,

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they are increasingly being targeted by copper thieves,

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as scrap metal prices soar on the black market.

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This can result in leaks and other costly problems.

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We've got to get to the office, urgent communications with the owners next door,

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make sure we can get inside, have a look at the way the water has been cut off

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and make sure it has been done properly.

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We'll probably take the opportunity to engage with them about the condition of next door anyway.

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That's super. Thank you very much.

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A pleasure. Another successful day at the office!

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It certainly is, Mike.

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Mike has now got hold of the owner

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who is taking steps to resolve the problem.

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Back in Shropshire, Brian and Marianne have been visiting

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a high-end renovation of a Georgian farmhouse

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to glean some practical advice on how to renovate their own home.

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I think they've been suitably inspired.

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-Having been here and seen this, how do you feel about it?

-We'll take it!

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It gives us some real inspiration that someone can do such a great job.

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I'm aware they've had a lot of subcontractors working on the project

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and perhaps ours will take a bit longer.

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It's encouraging that someone has dealt with the same structural problems we're dealing with,

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-and yet they got through it in a short amount of time.

-Yes.

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So that's really helpful.

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This is a really top-end scale

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but it's inspiring and it gives us something to aim for.

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It takes real vision to see the potential in what is effectively a wreck.

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Clearly, Brian and Marianne have the passion and, hopefully,

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today they picked up some useful tips to help them on their way.

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It is definitely going to be challenging for them,

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but turning a piece of history into a family home

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is what it's all about.

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