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Across the country, empty properties that could be homes | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
are waiting to be brought back into use. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
I'll be finding out why | 0:00:09 | 0:00:10 | |
and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Along the way, I'll do some digging of my own to find out more | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
about our housing stock, our heritage, and why we should be both | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
reinventing and preserving Britain's empty homes. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Buying and renovating a derelict property is no mean feat. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
It has the potential to be stressful and expensive, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
especially if you haven't done it before. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
But for those with a vision who are prepared to put in the hard work | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
the results can be spectacular. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
'On today's show, I'll be meeting a brave pair of renovators | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
'who have taken on an extraordinary challenge.' | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
This is a big job. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
'I'll be finding out about a historical building | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
'rescued from demolition.' | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
-So that was you very much taking a stand? -Yes. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
'And we'll join an empty property officer | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
'on a mission to save derelict homes from falling into disrepair.' | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
One window goes, two windows go, a third window goes. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
It becomes a target, doesn't it? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Brian and Marianne, who live in Yorkshire, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
are about to embark on an ambitious project | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
to turn a dilapidated stone property | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
into a modern, open-plan home for their young family. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
The family were living in America but Marianne is a Yorkshire lass | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
and, as her young family expanded, she felt the pull of home. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
We moved into Walton, which was a rural type of village | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
on Brian's request, cos he likes village scenes, being from America. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
It was in this picturesque Yorkshire village that they spotted a property | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
which completely changed their lives. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
I were pushing Ana Maria back and forth on a swing. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Just behind the swings, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
you end up looking at this very big, austere-looking stone property. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
It was love at first sight, and although neither of them | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
had much renovation experience, they decided to go for it. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
A big part of it was the potential that we saw in it. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
We could buy a very ordinary house with a postage-stamp sized garden, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
or, for a similar type of investment, but a lot more risk, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
we could have a great property. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
With two young children and full-time jobs to juggle, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
Brian and Marianne have a lot on their plate. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
I'm meeting up with them to find out more about their plans. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
Later, I'll be introducing them to a couple who did a similar renovation | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
and are now reaping the benefits. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
-Hello, you must be Marianne? -It is. That's right. -And Brian. -Nice to meet you. -Hello. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
-Tell me about this. This is yours, isn't it? -This is our new house. Absolutely. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
What a building and what do you know about it? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
-It's been there since 1867. -Wow. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
It was built to be a training school, a launderette and cookery school for local girls. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
This really impressive lady called Mary Pilkington had it purpose-built, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
hence all the chimney pots on top of it, to be able to run the school. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Wow. Mary Pilkington's cooking and laundry school. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
-I'm itching to look inside. Can we? -Of course. -Brilliant. Lead the way. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
'The house has been empty since 1975 when its last occupants moved out. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
'Brian and Marianne are still in the process of deciding exactly | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
'what they want to do with what is effectively a blank canvas.' | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
Wow! To state the obvious, guys, there's not a lot here, is there? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
This is a big job. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
So this building has been empty for 35 years. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Your neighbours, the local community, must be so happy | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
that someone has been brave enough to take this on. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
They're behind us every step of the way which is lovely. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Deep down, they all want to own it. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
A lot of people have said, "I'm really envious of you." | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Not the hard work, but actually owning it. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
So that's exciting for us. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
This is a landmark building. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
One of the earliest examples of a cooking and laundry school I know. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Some in the 1880s and 1890s but this is an early one. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Then it becomes a landmark for the wrong reasons. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Empty for 35 years, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
but now you want to change that and bring it to life once more. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
If you go to the library and pull out the book, The History Of Walton, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
they describe the three historic structures of this part of Walton, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
and this is one of them. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
The author very dejectedly describes this half of the building | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
saying, after all these years of vandalism and theft, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
it's probably beyond all recovery. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-Makes us more determined. -Does it? -Very motivating. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
When you first looked in, did you maybe agree with them a little bit | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
and think maybe it is a bit beyond repair? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
It's the outer limits of what we would ever take on. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-It's a big risk and it's a stretch. -Right. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
But because the shell is so good, we thought maybe it's worth it. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
-Shall we have a bit of a tour? Let's have a look round. -Sure. -Sure. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
'Brian and Marianne hope to turn the downstairs space | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
'into two main areas. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
'A living room and an open-plan family kitchen.' | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
This will be the kitchen. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
It has everything, including the kitchen sink. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Exactly, just about, anyway. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-I can see upstairs. Can we get up there? Is that possible? -We can do. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Back that way, up the ladder, yes. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
'Upstairs, they are planning two children's bedrooms, a guest room | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
'and a bright, airy master bedroom.' | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
It's nice to be here with light coming in. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
You have the chimneys to work with everywhere in this house. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
The fireplaces are all different | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
every time you get back to the original brickwork. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
So, this one, you can see had just the Yorkshire block | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
and probably had a very simple coal burning thing in front of it. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
Yeah, very narrow. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
Whereas, the brickwork on that one has the arch and was a more decorative piece. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
'The couple spent £300,000 on the property | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
'and with a modest budget of between £50,000-£80,000 for renovation, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
'they have an almighty challenge ahead of them. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
'Brian is going to have to do the gutting and the groundwork himself | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
'before he even starts to think about employing tradesmen. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
'On this budget, they can't afford to make any mistakes. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
'At the back of the property is half an acre of garden with orchard. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
'The couple plan a children's tree house and vegetable plot.' | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
It's big, isn't it? This could be a great garden. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
It was prickles and brambles up to here, initially, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
so Brian dug out all the nettles but it's absolutely full of weeds again | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
so it's going to be a complete ongoing battle with it. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
'Later I'll be showing Brian and Marianne | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
'a former farmhouse that just 18 months ago, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
'was in the same derelict state as theirs | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
'in the hope they will pick up some useful tips and inspiration | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
'from the owners.' | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
But it isn't just historical buildings in need of salvation. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
Up and down the country, it's the job of empty property officers | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
to try to revive the fortunes of Britain's forgotten homes. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
Mike Thompson is empty property officer for Thanet in Kent. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
He's a man on a mission to save this coastal region's forgotten homes. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
The government sets targets of building thousands of new homes. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
There's these properties laying empty wanting to be brought back to use. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
I retire in just under 12 months | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
and it's my mission to leave a legacy of my work behind me. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
Working as a one-man band, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
Mike's responsible for 3,000 empty buildings across the Kent coast. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
Behind every empty property is a story. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
A story I like to get a handle on and get to know. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
The growth of package holidays in the 1980s left its mark | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
on our seaside towns. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
As more Brits decided to holiday abroad, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
once splendid hotels were left empty. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
Today Mike's in Margate to check out the progress on his latest project. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
I'm on my way now to the former Warren Court Hotel | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
where we have a radical solution to save the beautiful frontages. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
I'm here today to meet the architect and the developer | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
to see the sort of progress they are making. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Mike's current concern is this beautiful double-fronted | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
period property which was previously a school | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
before being turned into the Warren Court Hotel | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
at the height of Margate's tourism boom. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
The hotel closed down nine years ago and has been vacant ever since. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
A magnet for vandals and drug users, and subjected to two arson attacks, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
this vermin-infested property became a health hazard to its neighbours. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:13 | |
Mike and the Kent Council made a compulsory purchase of the property | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
and are working with a local developer | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
to turn the hotel into quality social housing. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
This is an ambitious project, as all that remains is the facade. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
-What have we got here, Tanya? -This is the proposed plan for the site. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
Inside there will be a total of 20 new residences - | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
12 new houses and eight flats. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
We have two semi-detached units there. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
We obviously have the front terrace | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
and then we've got the terrace of three units | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
and rear garden to the dwellings. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
A hi-tech scaffold structure has been erected to prop up the facade, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
preserving the Georgian portico, bay windows and front steps | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
while the work commences on the flank and rear walls. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
But working in a conservation area has given the developers | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
some serious design challenges. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
It was important for the buildings to relate to the surrounding site | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
and, obviously, the buildings are very tall. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
We raised the building by a metre | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
and also the floor-to-ceiling heights are very generous compared to modern standards. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:31 | |
Those things together worked to get as grand and tall a building as possible. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
And the retention of things like balconies and canopies is fantastic, isn't it? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
Picking that architectural detail. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
-It finishes off the square. -Indeed. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
To get your hands on the project of this magnitude and bring something of real benefit to the community, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:54 | |
providing 20 family homes, is really exciting and something | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
I am really proud to have hung my hat on. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
It is the icing on the cake for me. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Empty property officers aren't the only individuals | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
who can spot potential in old and empty buildings. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
That said, it does take a certain type of person to see past the dirt, dust and dilapidation. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:16 | |
But, with vision, backbone and bags of patience, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
you too could find your ideal abode in an empty home. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
In July 2008, Gary and Colette Dudley bought a Victorian chapel | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
by the sea in Gwynedd, North Wales. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
Built in the 1880s and with 80% of the original stained glass still in place, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
it was an empty shell with heaps of potential, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
and the couple couldn't resist paying the £190,000 price tag. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:51 | |
When I walked into this building first, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
the feeling I got was of being protected, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
like my heart was in its hands, if I can say that. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
It sounds crazy but it was like a love affair with the building. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
It wasn't at all austere. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
It was just a lovely, warm feeling when you walked in. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
That's how I felt when I saw it. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
And I thought, whoopee! Another 12 months of hard work! | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
Long days, long nights, more bumps and bangs, but... | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
the location, the position and everything about the place is a fantastic place to live. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:31 | |
Closed in the late 1950s, it has been empty on and off for the last 60 years. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
There was nothing in here. There was no kitchen, nothing. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
It was like posh camping. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Virtually camping out in an old church hall. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
We did have a few interesting interruptions | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
where people still thought it was a chapel and it was open. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
We'd have the general public just walking through the door to see what was going on. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
A builder by trade, Gary did all the work himself, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
taking just under a year to complete the renovations. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
I prefer to use old materials. I like things to look quirky | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
and I want everything to suit | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
and fit into the building. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
The open, airy spaces are the perfect place to showcase their eclectic taste. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:30 | |
People shouldn't be frightened by buying chapels. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
They were built to last. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
These walls are two-and-a-half feet thick. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Whether you cut them in half or make them boxes inside, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
or whether you go with the whole space, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
they are fantastic places to live. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
-We love living here, don't we? -We love it. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Back in Yorkshire, Brian and Marianne are renovating a 19th century schoolhouse. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Later, I'll take them to visit a fabulous converted Georgian property. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
First, I'm keen to find out more about their new home. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
Marianne and Brian have clearly got a real piece of history | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
and, although not everyone is lucky enough to own a property with such a rich and tangible past, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
every building has a story | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
and it may often be more intriguing than you'd think. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Dr Libby Scott has been living in the adjoining house since 1982. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Over the years, she has collected old photographs, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
postcards and press cuttings | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
relating to the house and the local area. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
This was part of a very established estate, wasn't it? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Yes. The Pilkington family were landowners and owned part of the village. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Mary Pilkington was the village benefactress. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
Boys had jobs. They could be apprentices, they could work on the fields. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
But girls didn't have much chance for education or a trade, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
so she set up this building as a laundry school. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
-You have also got some photos of how it used to be, is that right? -Yes, this is well over 100 years ago. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
A little boy, I think he is wearing knickerbockers, standing outside. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
There is a photograph here that was taken some time in the 1920s. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
Wow! It's very bold, isn't it? A lovely picture. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Despite its rich historical past, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
the ex-laundry school was nearly knocked down in 1992 | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
when developers planned to create an access road | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
for 150 new-build houses. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
There was a notice pinned on the front door | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
saying the developers were going to knock it down within a fortnight. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
So I decided to launch a campaign. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-That was you very much taking a stand and leading from the front. -Yes. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:52 | |
Libby's campaign paid off and the building was saved, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
in the name of historical interest. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
It is an amazing building | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
and now there is a couple who want to return it to its former glory. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
I'm really pleased that, at last, we have neighbours. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
It will make quite a difference to our property when we have people living next door. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Yeah. Thank goodness it's still standing! | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
There are many ways to find out more about the previous life of your property. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
If it's of historical interest, your council will have an officer | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
who can tell you more about the building. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Census information or electoral registers mean you can find out more about the previous owners | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
and, as we've seen, it's important to ask around. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Members of the local community can often be | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
the most valuable source of information. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
Luckily for Brian and Marianne they had vigilant and proactive neighbours | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
who helped save their future home. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
But that was just the beginning. There's a long, long way to go. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
I think you need such unrelenting confidence for a project this big and this daunting. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
They haven't decided on style or layout and exactly where everything will go, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
but I will try and inspire them with a vision of how the property could be. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
Guys, glance this way. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
This is what I brought you to see. First impressions? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
-Wow! -Stunning. That's a gorgeous property. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
A year ago, this was in a very similar state | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
to how your property is now. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
That is hard to believe. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
This was a farmhouse from about 1769, I believe, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
so about 100 years before yours, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:44 | |
and it was used as a farmhouse right up until the 1980s. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-It fell into disrepair and it has just been brought back to life. -Wow! | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-It is immaculate. It's beautiful. -A lot of hard work gone in there! | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
-Are we ready to have a look inside? -That would be great. -OK. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
When John and Pen bought this detached Grade 2 listed farmhouse in Shropshire, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
it had been standing empty for four years. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
We fell in love with the area and when we drove around the corner | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
into the most amazing village and saw the house it was like, oh my God! | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
Both of us grabbed each other. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
We're not too sure what it was about the house but it appealed to us. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
Despite its dilapidated condition, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
John and Pen could spot its enormous charm and potential. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
It was a mess but it had a nice feel to it. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
It's about whether you feel you can fit into that property and live in it. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
The farmhouse had been divided in two | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and they spent the last 11 months making it whole again | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
and fully renovating the entire building. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
You're sort of restoring part of Britain's heritage. You can take great pride in that. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
Right, so Pen and John, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
tell Brian and Marianne what it has been like. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
You have just been through this renovation. How tough has it been? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
It has been hard work. It has been 11 months of really hard graft. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
But, as you can see, the results have made it well worth it. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
I think what you have to realise is, it might look really dreadful to start with, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
but there is light at the end of the tunnel and you will end up with a fantastic home. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
How bad was it? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
These guys are dealing with a shell. How basic was it for you? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
As an example, behind you, under that dining room table, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
we basically had to completely remove all of the floor joists because they were rotten | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
and you could see from the bedroom above, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
all the way down to the cellars. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
At that point, your heart sinks and you think, is this ever going to end? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
-How much worse can it get? -Where did you live while this was happening? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
We actually lived in the house. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
So we moved around the house as the work was done. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
-We had four temporary kitchens. -It was in here for about three months. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
If you're thinking about living through the build, it is very hard both emotionally and physically. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
If you've got young children, I would seriously consider renting somewhere, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
rather than living through it. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
When you started out, did you have a timeline in mind? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
When we bought the house, it was, right, this will be a 12-month project. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
It is very important to have a plan and know what goals you're aiming for | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
because if you don't have that, it will never happen. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Guys, we'd love to look around the rest of the house so lead the way. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
Downstairs, John and Pen have created three reception rooms, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
a dining room with adjoining drinks room and a spacious kitchen diner. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
Upstairs, there are six stunning bedrooms and five bathrooms. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
-So, you've exposed some bricks in the corner? -We have. -A chimney? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Yes, that's a chimney. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
This was a loo. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
When we came in, this was small, narrow, dark, horrid. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
So we took it out, exposed the brickwork | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
and created a much more characterful room, we think. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
-It's great, isn't it? -After you. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
John and Pen have made design features out of the many stone chimneys in their farmhouse - | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
a trick which Brian and Marianne could usefully employ in their conversion. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
Guys, this is a stunning kitchen. What do you make of it? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
Really impressive. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
One of the key parallels between your two properties is just chimneys everywhere. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
-Were they structurally sound? -No. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
We knew they were a mess when we came in. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
You could see there was water dripping down the outsides. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
What paint there was had bubbled and cracked, so we knew that we had big issues. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
If a chimney falls, it's extremely dangerous - it could take out half your house or even kill someone. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
How did you make them safe? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
We got the scaffolding straight up and got it all stabilised. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
That's one of the first things. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Does this help? You have chimneys at each end of your kitchen. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
Seeing something opened up, is it something you'd consider? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
Yes, and looking at the photos of what it used to be like | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
and that is pretty much our place - how this used to be. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
This is very effectively what we are looking for. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Even though this house is bigger, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
you'll still have the same number of decisions to make. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
You'll have the same number of paint choices to make, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
structural decisions to make that we had here. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
-I'm looking forward to just having to choose paint! -Can you imagine! | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Thank you so much. It has been such a privilege looking round | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
and I really hope it's given you a bit of inspiration | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
and encouragement as well that you can get to this stage. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
It has given us some really nice insight into how homely | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
you can make a complete wreck. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
-Pen and John, thank you so much. -Nice to meet you. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
I'll be catching up with Brian and Marianne later to find out their thoughts on Pen and John's home | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
and to see whether they can take away any useful tips | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
to employ on their own building. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Back in Margate, empty property officer Mike Thomson | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
has been called in to investigate a bit of a mystery. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
A deserted mid-terraced house may be causing its neighbours distress. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
Water has been pouring into the communal hallway | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
of the house next door, leaving extensive damage. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
Mike's visiting the scene with his trainee, Andy, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
to work out if the property is indeed the root of the problem. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-I don't think that was broken last time I came, do you? -No. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
That's the trouble, isn't it? Long-term empty, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
one window goes, two windows go, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
third window goes and it's progressive. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
-It becomes a target. -It does. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
-I'm amazed people can afford to have something like this sitting here doing nothing. -Yes. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
-Why should it look like that in the street scene? -Exactly. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
At first sight, Mike things the leak may be the result of blocked gutters on the empty building. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
-What do you reckon about the gutters? -It's blocked across both properties. -Absolutely. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
Weeds growing out of it. It is chock-a-block with rubbish. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Then we've got problems with the roof. A lot of slates off. You can see them on the gable. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
Yes, big holes right the way through. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
They hope the managing agent of the neighbouring property will be able to shed some light on the mystery. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:16 | |
This is the problem just here. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
-Let us put the damp meter on and see what we get. -OK. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
If Mike finds the damp problem is being caused by the empty property, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
he can track down the owners and force them to have it fixed. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Not necessarily what you'd expect because it's not in an area | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
-which we would tie in with anything we thought. -Not on the externals. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
But the managing agent thinks he may have worked out the problem. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
The property next door was broken into | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
and they stole the copper pipes with the water on | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
-and I think that is what has caused the dampness to come through. -Yep. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
Not only are empty properties | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
a magnet for damp, vermin and anti-social behaviour, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
they are increasingly being targeted by copper thieves, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
as scrap metal prices soar on the black market. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
This can result in leaks and other costly problems. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
We've got to get to the office, urgent communications with the owners next door, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
make sure we can get inside, have a look at the way the water has been cut off | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
and make sure it has been done properly. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
We'll probably take the opportunity to engage with them about the condition of next door anyway. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
That's super. Thank you very much. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
A pleasure. Another successful day at the office! | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
It certainly is, Mike. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Mike has now got hold of the owner | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
who is taking steps to resolve the problem. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Back in Shropshire, Brian and Marianne have been visiting | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
a high-end renovation of a Georgian farmhouse | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
to glean some practical advice on how to renovate their own home. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
I think they've been suitably inspired. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
-Having been here and seen this, how do you feel about it? -We'll take it! | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
It gives us some real inspiration that someone can do such a great job. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
I'm aware they've had a lot of subcontractors working on the project | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
and perhaps ours will take a bit longer. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
It's encouraging that someone has dealt with the same structural problems we're dealing with, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
-and yet they got through it in a short amount of time. -Yes. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
So that's really helpful. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
This is a really top-end scale | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
but it's inspiring and it gives us something to aim for. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
It takes real vision to see the potential in what is effectively a wreck. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
Clearly, Brian and Marianne have the passion and, hopefully, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
today they picked up some useful tips to help them on their way. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
It is definitely going to be challenging for them, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
but turning a piece of history into a family home | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
is what it's all about. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
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