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Across the country empty buildings that could be homes

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are waiting to be brought back to use.

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I'll be finding out why and what you need to do

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to rescue a house for yourself.

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Along the way, I'll be doing some digging to find out more about our housing stock, our heritage

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and why we should be both reinventing and preserving Britain's empty homes.

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Rescuing an abandoned house is no mean feat.

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They've often fallen into disrepair, need major structural work,

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planning permission and a huge budget.

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wIt can be pretty intimidating,

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but with the right advice and careful planning,

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even a first time buyer can take on an empty home.

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On today's show I'll be meeting a first-time renovator

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who dreams of creating a high-tech bachelor pad on a low-tech budget.

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You've restructured the floor?

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The whole first floor has had to be redone, to put the screen in.

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That's mind-boggling!

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We'll also meet people who successfully transformed a rustic ruin

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into a modern family home.

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As time went on, it became more and more appealing, rather than rent out, to live in it.

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And we'll follow the property detectives who track down the owners of forgotten houses

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and reinvigorate the neighbourhoods blighted by them.

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Seeing how happy they are in that accommodation,

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it really, for me, makes my whole job worthwhile.

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In Birmingham, 21-year-old Michael Hims

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is renovating this previously empty 1930s three-bed semi.

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'When I got the house, the house vacant for two years

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'and it just generally needed to be completely redone from scratch.

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'I'm more than happy to put the work in,'

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so it just seems a good investment for me to buy it, really.

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The house cost £107,000

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and Michael bought it with the help of his mum Fiona,

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who is acting at his financial guarantor.

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I helped Michael with the deposit,

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so I put the deposit up for him to apply for the mortgage.

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Everything else since has been funded by Michael.

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Michael is currently studying to be an electrical engineer and plans to do the majority

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of the works himself despite having no renovation experience.

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I think I'm ambitious with what I'm trying to do.

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It's a full renovation. Rewire, new plumbing, new drainage, all that sort of stuff.

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I'm halfway through, now, and there haven't been any great challenges

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that I haven't been able to, sort of, solve myself.

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Michael has big ambitions

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but a relatively small renovation budget of £15,000.

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He's already spent £12,000 of that,

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but he's still determined to create a high-tech home.

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I'm looking to do an integrated audiovisual system. Speakers throughout the house,

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and sound will follow you from room to room.

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Make the house react to what you're doing, what your daily routine is, as it were.

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Michael sees this as a long-term project,

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so he's moved back in with Mum while tackling the construction work.

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I haven't got a move-in date, as such,

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I don't see that it's something worth having.

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When it's ready, it's ready.

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There's no point trying to aim for a certain date.

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That's interesting. I thought we were working towards June 2012.

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But, you know, I appreciate Michael can have as much time as he needs.

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No, he can't. He's got to be out of my house by June.

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I'm concerned that Michael's taken on an awful lot,

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and his budget may not match his ambitions for the place,

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so, I'm meeting him to find out more.

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-Hi, I'm Joe.

-Nice to see you.

-Nice to meet you.

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How are you doing? So this is the place, is it?

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-Yes, it is, yes.

-OK, you're an interested investor, is that right?

-Yes.

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-You're going to see how your investment is coming along?

-Absolutely, yes.

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-Shall we go inside and have a look?

-Yes.

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Wow!

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This is very much a building site. Is this your handiwork?

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Yes. I'm looking to do as much work as possible. All the electrics, plumbing.

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-The only thing I'm not sure about is the plaster but I will see how that goes.

-Right.

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What happens when you come across something that you do not know how to do?

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-How do you learn it?

-There's people you can ask. All the manufacturers give out guidance.

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If not, there are online forums.

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What is the budget for renovating a whole house like this?

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-Yes, the budget originally, well, still is, is £15,000.

-OK.

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And, to date, there is about £3,000 leftover.

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And how much more do you have to buy in terms of materials?

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We're pretty much there. All the electrics I've ordered,

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all the plumbing and plasterboard. It's pretty much the kitchen.

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You said a minute ago, "I don't know if I can plaster."

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From what I've seen of other properties, that is quite a skill

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and not something people can just pick up overnight.

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Is there room in the budget to bring in a specialist contractor like a plasterer?

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There will be room if there needs to be room,

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but, the amount of work I'm doing, anyway, I'm happy to do it.

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So I just see it as another step.

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Tell me about electrics. What is your vision for the house?

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I'm looking to have a centralised audiovisual install,

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where I can automate all the heating systems and lighting systems.

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Even remotely, I can plug-in on the internet and control the different aspects.

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A little bit of audiovisual has gone in, is that fair to say?

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Yeah, I already fitted out a home cinema screen.

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That had to go in at this stage because of the structural changes

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-that have been made to accommodate it.

-Yeah, it had to, Fiona. It had to go in. First thing.

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You don't need plaster board, you need 100-inch TV screen. Can I see?

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-There is a remote here.

-It's actually up there.

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Yeah, it's within the ceiling, now.

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When it's all plastered over, you won't see it.

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-These joists would have gone all the way across?

-Yes.

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-But you've stopped them doing that. You've put in an extra one.

-Yes.

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-So you can fit this in.

-Yes.

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-You've restructured the whole floor for this.

-The whole first floor has been redone to put the screen in.

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That's mind-boggling.

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What about the rest of the house?

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Right. This will be the kitchen, is that right?

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-Yes, that's right.

-21 is very young to take on and renovate

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your own house with no experience, but I suppose it's showing that

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there isn't that much to fear if you can get the right advice

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and consult the right people. It's pretty admirable, isn't it?

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I'm hugely impressed.

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And I think he is showing a dedication to something he believes in.

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And when he gets stuck he'll ask information,

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but he's got a drive

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and a vision that hasn't wavered from the outset,

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and I think that's a huge credit to him.

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It is good to see what's underway here,

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but you can't take away the fact that there's limited experience,

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so I think it's really good that, later on,

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we can show you another property quite similar to this,

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that has been through renovation.

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But importantly, I want you to meet the couple involved,

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because they have a lot of experience in doing just this,

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so hopefully they'll be able to give you some really useful advice.

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-How does that sound?

-Excellent, yeah.

-Great.

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Well, Mike, he's 21 and you have to admire the ambition,

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the tenacity, the energy, really.

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OK, he's had a bit of help from his mum, Fiona,

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to raise the deposit, and she's sort of acted as a guarantor,

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but still brilliant that he can get so hands-on.

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That said, there's a couple of key concerns.

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There isn't much of the budget left and there's still a long way to go.

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The kitchen hasn't been bought.

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So it is worth remembering that Mike doesn't really have

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a lot of experience.

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Therefore, it's going to be useful for him and Fiona

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to meet a couple who completed work on their own empty property

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to hear just how they managed it.

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There isn't always someone like Michael

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to come to the rescue of an empty house.

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Across the country, it's often our empty property officers

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who take on that particular challenge.

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Paul Palmer is the empty property officer

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for Corby and East Northants.

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To be able to go along and see a problem

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that I can then personally do something about,

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work with an owner to see that property brought back into use, brings me total job satisfaction.

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Today Paul is visiting a house in East Northants

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which neighbours have reported as being empty.

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What we know about this property so far is there is an allegation it has been abandoned.

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We understand there's a broken window, which might indicate an attempted break-in.

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There might be other anti-social behaviour associated with the property.

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But apart from that, that's all we know.

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Before he can take any formal action,

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Paul must find out if the building is definitely vacant.

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There's a little gap through here.

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Right, OK.

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There's clearly no furniture in here, just empty boxes on the floor.

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It would tally with the reports we've had that it seems to have been abandoned.

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He takes a look round the back to see if there are any more clues.

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Quite a few bits and pieces abandoned in the garden.

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We've got fence panels almost completely down

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along the whole length here,

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which is not very good for the neighbours, obviously.

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The worrying thing is just over here.

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Obviously, this window's been broken from the outside

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because the glass has been punched inwards, as you can see.

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Somebody's had a go at this and possibly tried to get in.

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What I need to do now is try and get some more clues as to who owns it and where they are,

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so I'm going to see if I can get hold of one of the neighbours.

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-Hiya.

-Hello.

-Sorry to disturb you.

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-My name's Paul, I'm from East Northants Council.

-OK.

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-I'm asking about the property next door.

-Yeah?

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-Do you know how long it's been empty or who owns it?

-I don't know who owns it.

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The property's been empty for seven, eight months, if not longer.

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Do you mind me asking, does it cause you any problems, being empty?

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-Yeah, cos we don't know who's coming and going. It's been broken into, or attempted to.

-Right.

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The fence has fallen down. Our dog escapes.

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And it's a bit of a concern with a young child

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-and another one on the way.

-Of course, yeah. I'll go back to the office now,

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do some investigations, find out who owns it

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and we'll contact them, get it secured, so hopefully that will stop more problems for yourselves.

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And eventually, we will get that property brought back into use.

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-Fantastic. Thank you.

-Bye for now.

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That's all we can do here at the property.

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Now it's back to the office to start some digging to find out who owns the property

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and what they'll do about it.

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Since our filming, Paul has contacted the owner

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and they've now secured the building.

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The owner is also talking with a local property developer

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about doing the place up and leasing it out as affordable housing.

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If you've got the determination,

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the drive, to renovate an abandoned building,

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then not only could you end up with your perfect home,

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you're also rescuing a little piece of history

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and preserving it for generations to come.

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Back in 2007, Susan Oliver and her husband Chris

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bought these woods in rural Aberdeenshire for £70,000.

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But at that point they didn't realise the land's full potential.

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Hidden away under five acres of woods was an old ruined croft

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which had been empty for over 40 years.

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It was a bonus that there was a little croft in it.

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We didn't have any intentions of doing anything with it at the start,

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but then we decided we might want to make a holiday cottage from it,

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so we got in touch with an architect and he drew up plans

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for a three-bedroom cottage. And as time went on, it became more and more appealing,

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rather than rent it out, to live in it.

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But once renovations started,

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the Olivers realised they needed more space.

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We did a phase 1, renovated the old croft.

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Then phase 2 gave the architect a headache because we wanted it bigger.

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He then drew up plans for phase 2 and that's where we are now,

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in this beautiful, light, airy and warm house.

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In total, this epic construction project cost the couple £350,000.

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And initially the locals took some convincing

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about their modern design plans.

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Generally, Aberdeenshire Council Planning Department were quite supportive.

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Our local community council were not,

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and objected to our planning application.

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But in the end, the planning authorities overruled them

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and we were able to go ahead. It's a modern build but it's exciting.

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You have to move with the times.

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We could have built a traditional cottage that looked like the one that was here,

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but that wasn't what we wanted.

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We were looking for something that was different and modern,

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and that's what we got.

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This unusual 18-month renovation has paid off.

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Susan, Chris and their three children now have an incredible

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modern family home in a magical woodland setting.

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Renovating the ruin has enabled us to make the extension as we wanted it.

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The lounge, dining room and kitchen are my favourite areas

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because they are just beautifully light and have a view of the garden

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and the woodland outside.

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To live in your own little piece of secluded woodland,

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you feel lucky, that's just it, definitely.

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You feel privileged to do so.

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And to have a little stream running through your garden, it's just great.

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Model rural living is how we look at it.

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Sometimes derelict buildings require a bit of imagination

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to help bring them to people's attention.

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I've come to the Bankside conservation area in Margate

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to find out how the council here is being influenced

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by creative residents both past and present.

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Council officers have found an alternative way

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of drawing attention to an empty historical building

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that's perilously close to being pulled down.

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Built in the late 18th century, the Fort Road Hotel is one of

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the last surviving buildings of this period in Margate's historic Bankside area.

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Margate was home to the famous landscape painter JMW Turner,

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who it's said used to regularly drink

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at the Fort Road Hotel himself.

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The hotel has been empty for 20 years now,

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and has fallen into serious disrepair.

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The Bankside area is currently undergoing regeneration,

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and millions have been spent on the Turner Gallery just opposite,

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leaving the Fort Road Hotel looking more derelict than ever.

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The council's now seeking private investors to help restore

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this historic building back to its former glory.

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In a true moment of inspiration,

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the councillors came up with a unique way of bringing attention to the building.

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To find out more, I'm meeting council representative Chris Wells.

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-Joe, welcome to Margate.

-Thank you. Nice to meet you.

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Now, "iconic site". What's the story behind the neon sign?

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Well, it's pretty straightforward.

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We have a building here, as you can see, in need of some

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tender love and care,

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and one of the ways we looked at trying to encourage people to come

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and give it some tender love and care was to use

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the artistic community that is now very much part of Margate

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and create a sign that encourages people to think of it as an artistic endeavour

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as well as a piece of architecture.

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The sign is bright, it's bold, it's upfront, contemporary.

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A little wink and a nod to another artistic resident here in Margate?

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Well, perhaps so. Tracey Emin is a Margate girl.

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She had her own neon sign over here near the Turner Contemporary

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a little while ago.

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She told us she thought the town could use more neon.

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I suppose what's needed is for someone to spot the potential.

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A fantastic building. It could make great flats, or a boutique hotel,

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but someone needs to see it and realise the vision.

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I think that's so.

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They need to see our vision, see this building plays an important part,

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and how visible it is.

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We want someone with an interest in making something iconic work

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for the whole of Margate.

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That sign says, "Come and rescue me."

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We hope someone will help us rescue that building.

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The regeneration of an area like Bankside in Margate

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may begin with a multi-million pound project

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like the Turner Contemporary,

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but to maintain an area's heritage,

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it's so important to look after historical buildings.

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It's encouraging and fitting

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the council chose a creative and artistic way

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to highlight the potential of the old Fort Road Hotel.

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Fingers crossed, the neon sign will be its lucky charm. And, who knows?

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Just perhaps, it's one Turner himself would have approved of.

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'Back in Birmingham, 21-year-old electrical engineer Michael Hims

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'is rescuing this empty house'

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with the financial help of his mum, Fiona.

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'Michael's doing the place up himself,

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with a budget of just £15,000.

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'He's spent £12,000 of that on materials already.

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'I'm worried Michael may be more focussed on installing

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'hi-tech gadgets than doing actual structural work.

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'I'm taking them to get tips and inspiration

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'from a couple who've undertaken a similar renovation project.'

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Here we are, guys. This is the property I want you to see.

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It's 1930s, similar period to yours.

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It's been completely renovated from scratch,

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which will be very familiar to you.

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-I suggest we go inside and say hello. Shall we?

-OK.

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Two years ago, Wayne and Elaine Kelly

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bought this three-bed semi with a view to doing it up.

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Built in 1938, the house only ever had one owner before them.

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When they passed away, the house was empty for over two years,

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and in serious need of renovation.

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It needed completely rewiring.

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We knew it needed completely replastering.

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We could see the potential for a kitchen extension on the back.

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Wayne's a builder, and tackled most of the work himself,

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as Michael intends to.

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Even with Wayne's experience,

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they found juggling their jobs alongside the renovation was tough.

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Trying to work all day, and then you have to come here at night.

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Work the weekends.

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It IS very stressful.

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And Wayne's professional experience certainly helped the budget.

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ELAINE: The benefits to the renovation

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with Wayne being a builder

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was just a massive help.

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I would say we probably saved over £40,000 in labour charges

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by renovating the house ourselves.

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'Even though this project was on a bigger scale than Michael's,

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'I'm hoping he and Fiona will glean some useful advice from this visit.'

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This is lovely. You have experience in doing this kind of renovation.

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Is that fair?

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WAYNE: I AM in the building trade, and this is our third renovation.

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How much of the work does that mean you can do yourself,

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when you take on a project like this?

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We could probably do about 90% of the work ourselves.

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Where do you draw the line between what you do yourself

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and when you bring people in?

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Michael's been very brave, and pretty much done everything himself.

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-Very much cheaper...

-Much cheaper, so we'll weigh it up.

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But where do you personally draw the line?

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I personally draw the line at electrics,

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which have to be up to standard.

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And, obviously, gas.

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You're very confident with your electrics. Is that right?

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I'm doing an electrical engineering degree,

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so I understand the electrical aspect.

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It's more the plastering, and that sort of stuff

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I think it's very much a skill-based thing,

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where I would possibly look at getting someone else to do it.

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In a place like this, you look at the walls and almost take it for

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granted how smooth everything is.

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But how important is it to get that exactly right?

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I think it's very important, because when you apply the paint,

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if the finish isn't just right,

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any lights show up any imperfections on the walls.

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So, it does pay

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to have a professional do the job for you.

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It's a similar-sized house.

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What does it cost to get a plasterer in for a house like this?

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This size of house, if Mike was boarding it himself,

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I would say, approximately £1,500.

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That's nothing too shocking. I could still afford it if I had to.

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I'm giving everything else a go,

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so it makes sense for me to see it all the way through.

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If the quality's not up to scratch,

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I'll happily get someone else in to do it.

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'I'm keen for Michael and Fiona to see some more,

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'and to talk further about the reality of renovation budgets.'

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So this is the master bedroom, is it?

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-Yes, that's right.

-It took you about 18 months to do the renovation.

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What did you THINK it was going to cost you.

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And what did it actually cost you?

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We thought it would cost about £30,000

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to completely renovate the house.

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But it probably cost more like £40,000.

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It was mainly the fixtures and fittings.

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How do YOU feel about money, listening to that?

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So far, because I'm still on budget,

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I'm not yet that concerned I'll be over.

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Yeah. But, if we break it down,

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you have £3,000 left.

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And, at least half of that's going to a plasterer.

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-Potentially.

-Potentially.

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So, it's going to be a squeeze here,

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where you don't have to be a maths genius...

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If it goes over, it goes over.

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So, you're open to that possibility.

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You can imagine yourself having to save a bit,

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-or put some things on hold?

-Yeah. Very much so.

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Thank you. It's been lovely.

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It's nice of you to open up your home to us.

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I hope it's been useful.

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-It's been great.

-I'm pleased it's turned out so well.

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Thank you.

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'This trip provided food for thought for Michael and his mum.

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'I'll catch up with them

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'later to find out how they feel about Michael's ambitious project.'

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In Corby, Northants, empty property officer Paul Palmer

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is on his way to see a house that's recently been brought back to life.

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The property we're visiting was empty

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for around two years, following the death of the owner.

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The family members who inherited it were trying to sell the property,

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but were struggling to find a buyer.

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They hadn't the means to refurbish a property for lettable standard.

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So approached the council for help.

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The council put the owners in touch with Jonathan Chapman,

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who runs a local property management company.

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Paul arranged a grant for the owners and Jonathan

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to turn the home into affordable accommodation for the homeless.

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Today, Paul's meeting Jonathan, along with one of the owners, Sonia,

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to see how the council grant has been spent.

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Let me show you around.

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It's a bit different from when I was here last time.

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How have we got to this stage?

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We didn't have to do much in the property.

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It was kept in really good order.

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We've put in a brand new kitchen, put in a lovely new bathroom,

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and given the place a lick of paint.

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This is where most of our grant money was spent,

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because the kitchen was quite a mess.

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It needed renewing, and it's a lovely job.

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It's brightened the room up. It's great for the tenants.

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Paul wants to talk with one of the people

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whose lives have been changed by this opportunity.

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Gerry, I'm here with Paul from the council.

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He just wants a look round and a chat with you, if that's OK?

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Hello, Gerry. Nice to meet you, mate. So, how are you getting on?

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Settling in OK. Getting on grand with the rest of the crew here.

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It seems it's running very smoothly, so we're really pleased.

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Nice kitchen. All the facilities are cool.

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-Yeah? That's fantastic.

-Very satisfactory.

-Great.

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-Lovely to meet you, Gerry.

-And you.

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-And good luck. Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

-Bye-bye.

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This house now provides a good home

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for people who've struggled in the past.

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The big attraction for me was four people who were potentially homeless

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aren't going to be homeless now.

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Hearing the stories from the tenants and where they've been,

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I'm even more enthused with where we've gone with it.

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It was like an 11th hour godsend for me.

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I really appreciate it. I feel very lucky.

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Very privileged,

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and it has boosted my pride.

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I feel there is a purpose in the end.

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We just need a helping hand.

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Thanks so much for showing me around.

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I was really impressed with that.

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It's a really good scheme.

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I'm looking forward to doing some more, so thank you for that.

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I'm really happy with today's result. I'm pleased we brought the property back into use,

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but the heart-warming thing was meeting those tenants,

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and seeing how happy they are in that accommodation.

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For me, it makes my whole job worthwhile.

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'Back in Birmingham,

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'21-year-old first time renovator, Michael Hims,

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'is ambitiously doing up this empty house, all by himself,

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'and on a very low budget.

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'I took Michael and his mum to get some advice from a couple

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'who've successfully tackled a similar renovation.

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Having seen this place, how do you feel now about your project?

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I'm still very excited to get it all finished, and move in.

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Has it helped you getting tips,

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and speaking to someone that's been through it?

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Has that been encouraging?

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Speaking to that person who's been in my shoes has helped massively.

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It's given me a perspective

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on where I should be when the project's over.

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It's given me lots more details to finish mine off to a good standard.

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When we spoke in your house, you said,

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"Maybe I'll need to bring in a plasterer".

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Hearing it gain from someone else they'd definitely do that,

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does that firm it up in your mind as something that needs to happen?

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I realise it's more of a possibility than I thought.

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I think I'll gear my spending now

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towards leaving that sum of money

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to cover that sort of trade.

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I imagine if a professionals having a hard time with it,

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I'm not sure I'd have much hope myself.

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Good. So, it's helped your planning? It's been a reality check for you?

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It's helped me fine tune what I was originally thinking,

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and brought a bit more realism to it.

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The thing to remember is,

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everyone has setbacks.

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If you keep your enthusiasm and passion for the project

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listen and get advice where you need it,

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I'm sure you'll be absolutely fine. Good luck with it.

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BOTH: Thank you very much.

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I hope it turns into the house you want.

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And you can move out of Mum's house soon. That's the key, isn't it?

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It's not often you meet a 21-year- old renovating a whole house,

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with no experience. It's a big ask, especially

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when that property's been empty for two years and the budget isn't huge.

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So, brave project, lots of challenges.

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But I have a lot of respect for Mike.

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He's up for it, he's not phased,

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and hopefully the advice he's had today will help him along the way.

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Whether sooner or later,

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I'm sure his passion,

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his determination will help him create his ultimate hi-tech home.

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