Sarah McGill and Charlie Fuller Britain's Empty Homes


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Across the country, empty buildings that could be homes are just waiting to be brought back to use.

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I'll be finding out why and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself.

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And along the way I'll be doing some digging of my own to find out more about our housing stock,

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our heritage and why we should be reinventing and preserving Britain's empty homes.

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Tackling and transforming an empty property may be challenging,

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but it also offers up endless possibilities.

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In many cases, you have something really interesting to work with,

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be it a building of historical importance or something with an unusual former use

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because in Britain, it's not just two up, two downs lying empty.

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Everything from abandoned pubs to derelict factories are available for those with a keen eye.

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'On today's show, I'll be meeting a first-time buyer

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'considering taking the plunge to embrace life on the ocean wave.'

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-You seem to be smiling quite a lot.

-Yeah, I'm getting face ache already.

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'We'll meet people who have taken big risks to get the home of their dreams.'

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I'm lucky because I have a very trusting wife who never saw this property before we bought it.

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'We follow the property detectives who track down owners of forgotten houses and help breathe new life

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'into the neighbourhoods blighted by them.'

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You wouldn't know this was the same house.

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Sarah McGill and her fiance Charlie Fuller live in the picturesque town of Chesham in Buckinghamshire.

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They recently got engaged and are now on the hunt for a unique living space to call home.

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They've considered pubs and boats and are determined to find something that stands out.

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I think we're looking just for anything with a bit of history,

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something that's had a life before it like an old factory or a boat.

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-I can't imagine living in a new-build estate or anything like that.

-No.

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Sarah is in advertising and Charlie is a graphic designer.

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Both work in London, so they're looking for something that's within commuting distance.

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They have around £240,000 to spend on a house and any renovations.

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We'd look to do as much as possible ourselves.

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-Yeah, call the experts when it goes wrong.

-Yeah.

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-I don't know. I think we're both up for a challenge for sure.

-Yeah.

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They want a challenge and I'll take them at their word.

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Leaving Charlie to his work, I'm meeting Sarah to introduce her

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to a potential home which might just float her boat.

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-Hello, Sarah. I'm Joe.

-Hi, Joe.

-How are you?

-Pretty good.

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Tell me, what is it you're looking for?

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Ideally, a home that's had a past life,

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something that's unique,

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something with a bit of history,

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-but something we can really make our own as well.

-OK.

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I've brought you to Chatham Historic Dockyards for something very unusual,

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which means I have to give you one of these.

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This might give the game away. It's a life-jacket.

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-We're going to go and see a boat.

-OK.

-So a little bit different.

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-I imagine that already ticks the box of being quite unique.

-Yeah, that's awesome.

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-I won't say any more. Let's go and have a look at it.

-OK.

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'There are hundreds of empty boats and barges across the UK

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'and over 15,000 people currently live on our waterways.

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'They are not everyone's idea of a home, but with a bit of imagination,

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'these vessels can be turned into unique living spaces,

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'often with the added attraction of the freedom to travel.

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'With the right approach, you can create some spectacular results.'

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OK, well, look, there's lots of boats. Which one is it? Any ideas?

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OK, I'll put you out of your misery. You see that great big thing over there?

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That is wicked. I was kind of hoping it was that one.

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That's probably the best one along here. That's awesome.

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Look at that, unique character. It's Ougree MSI 483.

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It was a Belgian minesweeper. It's 107 foot long.

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120 tonnes.

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There's quite a lot of boat there.

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-You seem to be smiling quite a lot.

-Yeah, I'm getting face ache already.

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It's very unusual. Is that the sort of thing you were hoping for?

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-Right up our street.

-I suggest we hop across to have a look.

-Brilliant.

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'Alongside the rest of the Belgian minesweeping fleet, Ougree 483 and its crew of 18

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'was in active service from 1958 to 1992.

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'The current owner bought the boat from the Belgian navy and used it as a recreational vessel,

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'but ill health forced him to sell up.

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'Despite having lain empty on its Medway river mooring for six years,

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'most of the ship's machinery and technical equipment is still fully functioning.

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'The Ougree 483 is on the market for £125,000, and with vision and the right approach,

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'could provide Sarah and Charlie with a unique home.'

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This is very much still a boat. It's quite compartmentalised. You'd expect that with a boat.

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You have to use your imagination to see through that, but if you can visualise how the rooms divide up,

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-it's the equivalent of a three-bedroom house.

-OK.

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So first impressions before we go downstairs?

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-Absolutely insane, but amazing.

-Insane?

-Yeah.

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-What we really need to do is take a look below deck and see what you make of that.

-Definitely.

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'Sarah seems unfazed so far,

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'but I wonder what she's going to make of what we find below deck?

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'The main bulkheads are divided up into offices and sailors' quarters.

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'There's also a kitchen, a bathroom and a large saloon area

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'which could be a great living space.

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'All of these areas could be opened up in a number of ways, depending on Sarah and Charlie's needs.'

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Right, come on through, Sarah.

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There are two rooms like this. The one next door is for the captain. This would be the officers' mess.

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There's four bunks there and a sort of general living area here, but it's tiny, isn't it?

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Yeah, I guess we'd probably knock a few bits out here and there.

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You have to open it up and see which ones you can join.

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There's no planning permission. No-one is saying, "You've got to keep this or that."

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You have free rein in that respect which is great.

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The problem is you don't want to be knocking down a wall

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that in some way impacts on the structural stability of a floating vessel.

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-Definitely not.

-The important thing is to obviously get specialist contractors in.

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In terms of all the equipment, keeping that as a feature,

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it's going to be hard to work out what you would keep and what you would throw away.

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Yeah, there's tons of potential. Literally, 120 tonnes of potential here.

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'There's a real surprise hidden down below.'

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Wow, yeah! So this is clearly, as it's quite loud, the engine room.

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That is just the generator going at the moment.

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These are the proper engines and they are absolutely mammoth.

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-These are 63 litres and these engines do work and the boat could move to a different mooring.

-OK.

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-How do you feel about that?

-It's always good to have options, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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'Back up on deck, I'm keen to hear Sarah's thoughts.'

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It's definitely unique, it definitely needs a lot of work,

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but I think actually looking around, I've kind of got that naive kind of excitement,

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looking at what I could start doing.

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I think of everything, just being down in the engine room,

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that's the only thing where I felt just a bit out of my depth, really.

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What will be really helpful is later we'll take you to meet someone

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who has taken on an extremely unique project, made it into a home and they've come out the other side.

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I think they've got some invaluable advice which would be brilliant for you to hear. How does that sound?

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-It'll either make my mind up or put me off.

-Exactly.

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Sounds brilliant.

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Sarah and Charlie wanted something unusual

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and you can see when Sarah is looking around that she is buzzing from the original features

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and the details of this historic boat,

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but with a unique property comes unique problems.

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If they take this on, they're going to need a huge amount of help and I really mean that.

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Later on, I'll take Sarah to meet someone who has successfully taken on a similar boat renovation.

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But not all sectors of the housing market are quite so "buoyant".

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Across Britain, local council empty property officers are carrying out detective work

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on our abandoned houses, working tirelessly to bring them back into use.

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Dave Carter is one of Enfield Council's most senior EPOs.

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When I come across an empty house, I don't see just the bricks and mortar.

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I see a potential family house.

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Today, David is planning to take drastic action on a local, long-term empty home.

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This morning, I'm going to be visiting a property to serve a compulsory purchase order.

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This means the Secretary of State has given permission for the council to take possession of this empty house.

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We've been forced into this because the owner has refused to negotiate with us.

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There's rodent infestations.

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The rear kitchen has collapsed and it is internally one of the worst properties I've seen for a long time.

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Before he can head out to the house, Dave gets a surprise phone call from the owner.

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Obviously, I'd like to meet you today...

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You can't meet me today. When would be a good time to meet?

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The owner is obviously aware that I intend to visit the property

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and affix the notice to the house.

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He's not happy, but he wants to meet me and talk about a possible way round it.

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All being well, I'll meet with him next week and we can hopefully come to some amenable solution.

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Even though Dave has now spoken with the owner,

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legally, he still has to serve notice of the compulsory purchase order in person.

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He knows I'll stick the notice on the door. It has to be done.

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I'm keeping my eyes peeled in case the owner pops up here. He works only a couple of minutes away.

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If he does, it gives me a chance to have a chat with him about the process I'm going through.

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With the notice fixed on the door, Dave tells the neighbours of council plans for the abandoned home.

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-Hello, Mr Lyle.

-Hi.

-I'm Mr Carter from Enfield Council.

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Just to let you know that the empty house next door,

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the council have obtained a compulsory purchase order

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and as part of the legal process we have to fix a notice to the door.

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-So we can look forward to a new neighbour soon?

-Hopefully.

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The new neighbour will get the place renovated

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-and you won't have to live next door to a wreck.

-Look forward to it.

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Hopefully, Dave can now get this place back into use as a family home.

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The notice has now been served. I'm hoping to meet the owner next week.

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But he'll have to come up with firm proposals and a firm timeline.

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Without that, the council will have to move forward to take full possession, so here's hoping.

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There's a huge variety of empty properties out there

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and whether it's a listed building in a remote location or a two-bed semi in a city street,

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the same principles apply.

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With hard graft, imagination and motivation,

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even the most hopeless-looking empty property can be saved from rack and ruin.

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In Buckfastleigh, Devon, architect Nicholas Burwell found the perfect family home

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in this Grade Two listed building.

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We didn't want to take anything from the town,

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so we found a property that had already been abandoned for three years.

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It had been used as a print workshop, as an assembly room for the pub

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and as a bank. People know it as the old bank.

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It also had character and I knew I could do something to make it feel like a real home.

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People just don't build 18-foot-high ceilings any more. They just don't do it, so why would you change it?

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Nicholas made an offer of £235,000, but there was someone he forgot to tell about his purchase.

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I'm lucky because I have a very trusting wife who never saw this property before we bought it.

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I just made the offer.

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Within a week, we had signed the deal, so yeah, maybe I shouldn't have done it that way, but I did.

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The property was completely uninhabitable,

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but over four years, Nicholas and Alison spent £180,000 and transformed the space

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into an incredible contemporary home.

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One thing we really enjoyed doing in the house was going out and buying a whole log of chestnut.

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And I mean a log this long, 15 metres long.

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We had that cut down into boards after it had finished seasoning.

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The great thing is you know it's sourced locally, it's good for the local economy and because it comes

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in random-width boards with all the blemishes of natural materials,

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it sits in an old building well.

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Despite being an architect, the conversion held many challenges for Nicholas and his wife.

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Actually, if I was doing this as a job, doing all of the planning applications, the drawings,

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and all the detailed drawings, it would take me a couple of months, full-time.

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I had to fit it in evenings, weekends,

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and that got in the way of family things, in the way of being nice to my wife.

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When it's your own project and you do it in your spare time, it places enormous demands on you,

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so be prepared, if you do it yourself, to have these stresses.

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The room that gives me the most pleasure is the kitchen dining area.

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The light really flies in there in the morning. Beautiful light.

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Just sitting there with your boiled egg and paper and a coffee and the peace and quiet is just fantastic.

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It's very easy to see an empty property as an eyesore, but it can represent a real opportunity.

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I'm on my way to meet someone who received help when he needed it most from a housing co-operative

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who found a way to give people a second chance using derelict homes.

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'In London, the Riverlink Housing Co-Operative is working hard to redevelop empty homes.

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'They try to meet the need of single homeless people who struggle to get social housing

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'by providing them with a home and training in renovation skills.

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'Today I'm meeting Nigel Greenwood whose fortunes have changed thanks to Riverlink's work.'

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-Nigel, hello. I'm Joe.

-Nigel. Nice to meet you.

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'Nigel lost his job and his rented home in quick succession.'

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I was doing contract work, the contract ended.

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In the private sector I can claim housing benefit, which I did.

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They contact the agency to verify I have the tenancy.

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The agents rang me and said, "The owner doesn't want people on benefits in his accommodation."

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-So they served notice on me.

-So suddenly you've got no job, your contract's come to an end,

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and your landlord says, "I don't want you around on benefits."

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-And that's it, you're out.

-Exactly.

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'But Riverlink gave Nigel a second chance and the training and skills to help renovate

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'this empty home on London's North Circular.

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'Empty for a number of years, this had fallen into serious disrepair and was a magnet for squatters.

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'But Nigel and other members of the Riverlink co-operative have transformed it into a safe home

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'rented at an affordable price.'

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This is the living room, renovated about five years ago now.

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-Quite cosy, secondary glazing, so it's quite warm as well.

-Yeah. Very comfortable.

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This is the kitchen.

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Renovated, white furniture provided as well.

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This house we've converted into flats, so we've had to put a shower under the stairs

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and the wash basin and the loo.

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It's great to hear of an organisation dedicated to rejuvenating buildings

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and also teaching people new skills.

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It helps foster and maintain a sense of community

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and that could be beneficial here and in so many other areas across the UK.

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Back in Chesham, Sarah McGill and fiance Charlie Fuller are looking for an unusual space to set up home.

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I took them at their word and showed Sarah a former Belgian minesweeper on the Medway that's up for sale.

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With some imagination, this sea-faring vessel could be transformed into an amazing home.

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And Sarah really seemed enthused by what she saw.

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Absolutely insane, but amazing.

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'Now I'm taking her to Southwark to see how, with the right approach,

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'boats can become spacious and characterful family homes.'

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-Here we are.

-Hello!

-Hello! Can we come in?

-Welcome aboard! Come through.

-Thank you.

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'In 2003, shipping lawyer Hannah Cash and her restaurateur husband Nicholas bought a former coal barge

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'and began an epic eight-year renovation project. The barge, now known as Katharine of London,

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'was far from ship-shape.'

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When we first purchased her, she was pretty much a shell, but we then fully converted her,

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so we put in skylights, partition walls, a new kitchen and a bathroom.

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And then we just made it habitable.

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Converting a barge while living on it came with its own challenges.

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There was a lot of unforeseen things on the technical aspect that took a lot longer than anticipated.

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You're not dealing with a house. The lines are difficult and the floors aren't even.

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-It was hard, but worth it.

-They purchased her for £100,000

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and spent another £150,000 renovating her, but Hannah and Nicholas and daughter Liliana

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now have a unique home with an enviable lifestyle.

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It's an amazing thing to do to travel with your home.

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You've got all your home comforts and it's very nice waking up in different places.

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It's a lovely way to bring up a child on the water.

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We have swans that visit the portholes for bread. We feed ducks. It's lovely.

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It's really nice and very different for a child. Very free.

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All boat conversions pose different challenges, but the principles remain the same.

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-I'm hoping Sarah gleans some practical advice.

-This is Katharine of London. Here's the galley.

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-And this is the saloon.

-Wow. The first thing that strikes you

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is the space and the size of it. It's really unusual.

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We wanted something spacious and airy and a bit of a wow factor and it does achieve it.

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-It really is quite a place. Sarah?

-It's absolutely incredible.

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From the outside it looks really neat, but I would not have expected the size inside.

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-And the spaciousness.

-The best thing is we didn't need planning permission and we could really

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-do as we wanted to do.

-Who did you involve? Did you have a history of renovating boats?

-No.

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I didn't know anything about the technicalities or renovating.

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We spoke to lots of people, we viewed lots of boats

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and then we just commissioned people to help us. Specialists.

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-How did you know that she was watertight? Underwater surveys?

-Of course, yeah.

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Always have a survey with a boat.

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Every six years you have to haul it out of the water, paint the bottom, take the barnacles off.

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-Constant maintenance.

-Whatever the purchase price is, set aside 10% every year for maintenance.

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But life isn't all about maintenance. There's plenty of time to enjoy the perks of this life.

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-So this is the deck.

-Wow. This is a great space for summer, enjoying fresh air.

-Absolutely.

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A great view of the marina and of where you are.

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You both worked full-time when you took this on. How did you work it?

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It was difficult. You just have to say goodbye to your weekends and evenings

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and just work around it, really. It wasn't easy, but the rewards of finishing it make it worth it.

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You've lived on boats for many years. I'm just wondering what Sarah needs to bear in mind.

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-It's not for everyone.

-No, it's not. I'd never lived on a boat before so it was all new to me,

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but I knew that I liked boats and I wanted to live near the water.

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If that's what you think as well, I'm sure it's for you. You have to embrace living on a boat.

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-And embrace the rocking!

-The motion of the ocean, yeah.

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-Thank you so much.

-Pleasure.

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-It's such a joy to see such a unique and unusual home.

-Good luck. I hope you go for it.

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-Yeah. I'll definitely be in touch!

-Any questions you've got, I'd love to.

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In Enfield, empty property officer Dave Carter is devoted to bringing derelict houses back to use.

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But it's not always a smooth journey getting an empty home back to its former glory.

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Last year we featured this four-bedroom house which had lain empty for over 10 years.

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This once-loved home had been squatted and all requests from Dave to meet the owner were ignored.

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Dave was eventually granted a compulsory purchase order and the council sold it at auction

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to a local property developer.

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A legal obligation of the sale was that they renovate the house.

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Having worked hard for over a decade to rescue the property, Dave is keen to meet with the developer

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to see the transformation.

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Last time I saw him, I was handing over the keys. Now, 12 months later,

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I'm really excited to see what progress he's made.

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-Morning!

-Hi. How are you?

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-We've done a lot of work.

-You've got the extension. Looking good.

-Yes, yeah.

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-It's changed a lot.

-Shall we go in?

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Come in and have a look.

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A full refurb has been carried out and it now provides affordable housing for locals.

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-Oh, lovely.

-Yes. Can you see the difference?

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You've done a very good job. I remember that corner, the ceiling was completely down.

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There was a big hole there.

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-This was one of the worst rooms, if you remember.

-I do, yes.

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-It was dirty and smelly.

-Yes.

-You've done an excellent job.

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You wouldn't know this was the same house. ..Oh, you've transformed it.

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-The squatters had had a good go at that one.

-The pipes were all cut.

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-And the water was coming out.

-Excellent. I'm very pleased.

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As part of the renovations, he's built two new bedrooms, converted the loft and built an extension.

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This is a real success story for Dave and it appears that all his hard work was worth it.

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I've dealt with this house for 10 years and I never thought the day would come,

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-so well done.

-You're welcome.

-I'll be in touch. Bye bye.

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'It's a most satisfying part'

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of the job to see a house transformed. When you first arrive

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and it's been squatted and it's been empty and neglected,

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you think, "I'll never get this house back into use." It takes time, but eventually you get there.

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And today's the day that we finally sign it off.

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'Earlier I met Sarah McGill, who's looking for an unusual place for her and her fiance Charlie.

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'We viewed a disused minesweeper which made quite an impression.

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'And we met a home owner who renovated an old barge into a spectacular family abode.

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'So, in light of what she's seen, how does Sarah feel about taking on an unusual empty home?'

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Sarah, having seen a completed houseboat, what are your thoughts?

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It's definitely opened my mind to the potential.

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The potential of the one we saw. Actually seeing what can happen is incredible.

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To see how the transformation can be made, does that lift your spirits?

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Yeah, and also terrifies me at the same time! But it's definitely the challenge and the prospect

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of getting something like that. The challenge is the exciting thing.

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-So what happens next? Are you raring to go?

-The next step is to convince Charlie to come and view it as well

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and see if he has the same cheesy grin! And then get going, really.

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I'm so pleased that it's been an infectious day that's gripped you

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-and I wish you all the very best.

-You have to come round for a cup of tea when we move in!

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Empty buildings like pubs or shops or even empty boats face the risk of falling into further disrepair

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if they're not brought back into use. So if people with determination and imagination, like Sarah,

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can take that leap of faith and help rescue them, not only are homes saved from the scrapheap,

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but, of course, the local community benefits as well.

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