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Across the country, empty buildings that could be homes are waiting | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
to be brought back into use. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
I'll be finding out why, and what you need to do | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
to rescue a house for yourself. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
And I'll be doing some digging | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
to find out more about our housing stock, our heritage and why | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
we should both be reinventing and preserving Britain's Empty Homes. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
Whether it's city centres, suburban streets or country lanes, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
across Britain, disused dwellings left empty | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
and unloved are an all too familiar sight. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
But look past the peeling paintwork, the broken windows, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
the overgrown gardens, and these forgotten buildings have the | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
potential to be turned back into beautiful homes once more. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
Today, I'll meet a couple who've bought | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
an empty house in the country to renovate into their dream home. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
We do plan to make some changes, so it won't be just a lick of paint. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
We'll see how this derelict hospital has been | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
transformed into a spectacular family home. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
It was on the At Risk Register with English Heritage, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
and had been left to, just basically, to rot. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
And we're following the property detectives who rescue unloved | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
and abandoned houses across the country. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
It does become more than a job. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
You spot these empty properties a mile off | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
and think, "I could do something with that." | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
Lyndon Hoare and John Clarkson have busy careers as an HR manager | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
and software designer in the city. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
John and Lyndon currently live in London, but for years they've dreamt | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
of escaping the rat race and moving to the countryside. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
They've recently bought this 1950s three-bedroom semi | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
in the commuter village of Balcombe, West Sussex. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
It was the right location, it was the right price. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
It's very much a foothold in the country. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
The village is a really nice place. The people are friendly. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
It's not a house of great beauty, of itself, but it's very functional. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
The house cost £250,000, has laid empty for almost a year, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
and is in need of a total refurbishment. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
Structurally and fundamentally, it's pretty sound. But the interior | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
of the house just needs everything doing to it. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
The right amount of work and the right kind of work was the thing, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
so it was a project that we could take on. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
This is John and Lyndon's first project, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
and they plan to do a lot of the work themselves. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
How much we do ourselves, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
how much we get professionals in for, it depends on the work. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
As much as we can, we'll do ourselves. All the painting, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
building kitchens and stuff like that. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
The couple have big ambitions, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
including a large rear extension, but a relatively small budget. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:52 | |
The biggest costs will be plumbing, wiring and the extension. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
But we do reckon we could do all of that for £50,000. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
I'm meeting up with John and Lyndon to find out more. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
-This is your new place, is it? -Yes it is. -It is, indeed. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Tell me, what attracted you to it? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
Well, for me it was the views, the fact that it's in a super area, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
an area of outstanding natural beauty, and as far as the house | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
is concerned, it's a project that needs some work doing to it. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
I think it's time for us to have a look inside. Shall we? Lead the way! | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
Ah, OK. The first thing that catches my eye as we come in... | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
the camping gear. You're putting that down | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
-and staying here at the moment? -That's right. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
We tend to come down just for weekends, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and strip wallpaper or plant things in the garden, whatever we're doing. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
So, is it superficial, what you have to do? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
We do plan to make some changes, so it won't be just a lick of paint. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
So it'll be re-plumbed, it'll be rewired, cavity wall insulation. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
In terms of the structure of the place, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
are you going to do much with the walls? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
Enlarge any of the rooms? Are you happy with the size? | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Mostly, they'll stay the same, we think. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
There's plans to put an extension out the back, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
and that might mean the kitchen gets flipped into the extension. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
We could knock through and make this a more usable | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
dining and living area. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
Well let's have a look through the kitchen, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
and maybe in the garden as well, see where you'd extend. Great. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Right, so this is probably very easy for one person, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
-everything's around you, but not so good for the two of you. -It's pokey. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
There's only room for one person in here. We'd like it to be bigger. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
So how much bigger would you like your kitchen to be? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Double it, at least. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
'I'm keen to see what plans they have for the extension, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
'and the rear of the house.' | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
So looking at the back of the house now, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
where and how far out would you extend? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-About three metres from the very back line of the kitchen. -Right. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Budget and planning allowing, we'd like to come out, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
the whole width of the house. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
And would it be one storey? What's above it at the back? | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Right, well it depends who you're talking to, Joe. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
John's thinking about one storey, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
I'm thinking that we've got a small third bedroom, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
and if we could extend into the roof space of the extension, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
that would give us more space and make it a comfortable third bedroom. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
I don't think we can go two storeys on that budget. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-I think it's going to be one storey. -OK. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
Having glass on the roof and letting light in that way appeals as well. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
Bi-fold doors opening outside as well, and I just, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
it's easier to do those things on a one storey. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
So, let's talk numbers, then. How much is there | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-to play with in the budget? -Between £40 to £50,000. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
I think, we decide what we'd like to do, we have a wish list. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
We get a sense of what that's going to cost and that's when we think, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
"Let's cut back on the wish list, and make it fit the budget." | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
There's a lot ahead. It's going to be very interesting for you both. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
What's going to be useful is to take you to see a property | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
that on the face of it looks different, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
different style, different size, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
but inside, been through remarkably similar challenges. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
It'd be good to meet the couple who've done it. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
They can answer a lot of questions for you, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
and give you some good practical advice. How does that sound? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-It sounds great. -That sounds like a really good opportunity, yeah. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Really good to meet Lyndon and John. I loved their enthusiasm, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
and it's a really exciting project. It's their first one together. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
The problems, in my opinion, begin with this ambitious extension. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
They haven't agreed on whether it's going to be one or two storeys. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
The budget seems extremely tight, and when it comes to managing it, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
a lot of the time, they're going to be miles away in London, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
which is cause for concern. So, really important for them | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
to meet a couple who've been through this, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
they've got the experience and they can pass on plenty of tips | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
to Lyndon and John on how to keep their renovation on track. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
Not every house is lucky enough to attract enthusiastic new owners. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Across Britain, empty property officers employed by local councils | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
are carrying out detective work on our abandoned homes, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
working tirelessly to bring them back into use. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Steve Reed is one of the empty property officers | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
for Cardiff Council. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
It does become more than a job, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
because even on your days off, you spot these empty properties | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
a mile off and you think, "Oh, I could do something with that." | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
In his nine years on the job, Steve has brought | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
over 700 deserted dwellings back to use. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
When I finally see an empty property occupied, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
it's a great sense of satisfaction that you've played a major part | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
in getting it back to this occupied state. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Today, Steve is visiting a house that's been on his books | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
for a while, and is on the brink of being brought back to life. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
My involvement with this property is coming to an end, really. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
The visit today is just to let the valuers in, to have a look at it, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
hand over the keys, and for them to sell it as quickly as possible. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
Steve has been granted a compulsory purchase order | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
on this derelict house, and it's soon to go up for sale at auction. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
When it goes to auction, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
we put a condition on it that the owner has to renovate | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
and reoccupy the property within six months. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Today, Steve is meeting with the auctioneer and the council valuer | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
to discuss the best way to price and market the house. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Right, we'll have a look around inside but be careful, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
some of the floors are a bit dodgy, so... mind your step, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
and we'll go and have a look. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
It's been seriously neglected, and needs some major work | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
to make it habitable. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
-Gosh. That's not safe, is it? -No. That looks pretty dangerous. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
The joists are completely gone there, on the floor. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
That'd be quite costly to fill that in, wouldn't it? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
Certainly, yeah. Certainly. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
-It's not a bad kitchen, is it? -It's a good size. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
Obviously, there's some damp penetrated in | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
from the first floor bathroom, I would imagine. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
-With a bit of work on it, it could look...really good. -Definitely. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
Moving upstairs, there are more structural problems, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
which will affect the market value. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
-D'you think you can sell this, Matt? -I don't think there'll be a problem. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
I think the auction would be the right route to go down, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
you know, in terms of finding a cash buyer for you. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
I'll just go through my findings in terms of the amount of work, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
judge that with a valuation, and I'll be in touch. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
I'll hand these over to you, now. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Great, I'll take them from you. Thank you very much. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Keep in touch and let us know how it goes. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Steve's part in rescuing this house is done. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
The hope is it gets a good price at auction. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
It's a good feeling for us because we've brought it this far, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
and now we can hand it over and relax a little bit | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
and keep an eye on it. We'll keep monitoring it, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
to make sure that someone does move in, and once they're in, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
it comes off our books and we're on to the next one. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Taking on an empty property clearly isn't easy. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
It can involve months of exhausting, relentless and expensive work. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
But if you've got the confidence, the vision, the know-how, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
then the rewards can be second to none. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
In Wimbledon, Peter Beckwith took on an extraordinary restoration, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
when he bought this 15-bedroom Victorian mansion. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Previously owned by a hospital trust, it came with four acres | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
of grounds and had been empty and derelict for almost 40 years. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
When I came round, I was a property investor, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
and the main attraction was that it was four acres of free-hold land. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
So, my ideas were in terms of knocking the whole thing down | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
and building some new modern housing or whatever. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
But in fact, when my wife and I walked round the Victorian building, | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
it became quite clear to us that it would make a magnificent home. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Peter's used to taking on challenging projects, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
but he was over-awed by the scale of this renovation. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
What shocked us was we'd been told it was a Grade II listed building, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
but we hadn't been told that it was on the At Risk Register | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
with English Heritage, and had been left to, just basically, to rot. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
There was practically nothing in the building which was worth retaining. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
Peter bought the house in 1997 for £2,000,000. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
He then spent almost another 2,000,000 totally gutting it | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
and rebuilding all the interiors. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
The building was stripped back to, literally, the four walls, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
the chimney stacks and nothing else. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
And that was how bad the deterioration had set in. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
The roof is completely new. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:53 | |
The window frames and all the woodwork has been replaced. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
The conservatory clearly is a new innovation, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and it's a tremendous environment where you can have the doors open, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
you can still watch your television, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
and you can pretend that you're actually sitting out in the garden. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
Overall, this was an epic year-and-a-half restoration, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
but now Peter and his family have a spectacular home. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
I mean, we spent money which | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
a commercial developer would never have put in, but I knew | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
that we were going to live here for 15, 20 years, maybe longer. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
I knew we were going to enjoy it and, most importantly, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
our family were going to enjoy it. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
I think our children and grandchildren will say, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
"The old couple did a good job. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
"They created a lovely home for us and good on them." | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
From the rescue of a derelict Victorian pile in Wimbledon, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
we're heading to Liverpool, where whole streets | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
of period houses have been stuck in limbo for almost 20 years. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
I've come to the Granby area of Liverpool, where | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
a phenomenal number of properties are empty and boarded up. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Row after row of Victorian terraces face an uncertain future. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
The local residents would like to see these homes brought back to use, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
but the reality is, the majority of these properties | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
are earmarked for demolition, to be replaced by new builds. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
Many trace Granby's problems back to the Toxteth riots of '81. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
These streets have been bought up by the council and earmarked | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
for demolition and redevelopment. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
The plans have got caught up in red tape and bureaucracy, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
leaving hundreds of local houses boarded up and empty for years. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
I'm meeting Jonathan Brown, a town planner and member of the | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Liverpool Civic Society, who's been campaigning to save these streets. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
Help me make sense of this. We're not talking about a few houses, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
we're talking about streets and streets. Why so many? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And why have they been boarded up for so long? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
You have to track back probably ten years or more to understand. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
There's a policy to knock down over 20,000 houses across Merseyside | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
because there were seen to be too many for the population | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
that has shrunk since its heights before the war. That's why | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
these houses are in the state you see, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
and the people who live here have been victims | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
of this high-level bulldozer that's swept through this neighbourhood. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
It's such a waste of building resources, but also money. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
There must be a lot of money tied up in these places. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Hundreds of millions has been spent in Liverpool alone | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
just really to buy up, board up and potentially bulldoze. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
Thankfully these have not yet been bulldozed. Now we're left in limbo. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
So, the important thing is where do we go from here? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
So how much hope is there, that many of these can be saved? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
They're still in fair condition, given the neglect they've had, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
There's still the prospect of putting people to work on them, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
to learn skills. People who are unemployed | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
could work and train on these houses. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
We know that there are investors lined up keen to get stuck in | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
if they can get hold of the property. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
While they still stand, Joe, there is hope. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
But something needs to change. We would call on the government | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
to sit down with the council and take a new approach, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
and try and work with local residents to get this sorted out. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
It's shocking to see buildings sitting here in this state, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
and it's not just a few of them. Street after street, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
whole neighbourhoods that are now ghost towns. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
But there are residents around here, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
and they're determined to keep the community spirit alive. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
Only eight out of 60 houses are occupied in the street | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
where Eleanor Lee and Carol Folder live. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
They've done their best to keep their community alive | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
and the bulldozers at bay. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
Alongside their campaign against demolition, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Eleanor and Carol have made it their mission to brighten up their street. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
In a sense, this community felt forgotten. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
People moved out, the buildings were left boarded up. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
But you've taken it on and you've done your best to try | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
and keep life here. How have you done that? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Talk me through some of the touches that you've done | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
to reclaim control. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
We started connecting to each house that was lived in, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
so we started green sort of links and then we started painting, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
then we just expanded so that we've done, oh, it's over 50 houses now. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
And it's a nice feeling when you think, "I'll do the house next door. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
"Oh, that looks nice. Put a few more plants in that one, down there." | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
And that's how it took off. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
There are some plans for development now. What are they? What's in store? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
The city council, in our four streets, they own 130 properties. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
And they've put those as a block out to tender, to a developer. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
There'll be some demolitions, I imagine. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-But the focus of it is refurbishment. -That seems like good news. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
But what would you like to see happen here? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
At the moment, it's like one size fits all. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
It's like, it moves as a block, and no individuals can buy into it, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
so our preferred option would have been to allow members of, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
you know, individuals to buy cheap and do them up at their own rate. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:20 | |
But, what we're trying to do is, we're trying to negotiate with | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
either, which ever developer wins, to see if we can secure some | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
properties in this area, which will be owned by the community. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
Because the members of this community have invested time, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
money and commitment, really. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Yeah, and it's off the back of your campaigns | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
to keep the building stock, that it is now possible | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
-for developers to come and refurbish. -Oh, I'm sure it is, yeah. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
You've managed to really pull together here | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
and foster an amazing community spirit. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
So, with that kind of determination, who knows what can happen? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
And it's a very tough, enterprising community, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
who are used to surviving hard times. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
Well, there is still hope so, I wish you all the best with this. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
-Onward, onward! -Onward. And there is a lot of hope. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
What the ladies and other members of the community | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
have been able to achieve here is really quite special. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
They weren't forced out, they've hung on in here | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
and they've managed to create quite a unique spirit. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Who knows what's going to happen? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Hopefully, many of these buildings can be saved. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
And it's good that a developer is taking a lead on that, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
but I also hope that people get a chance to invest here. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
Local people, families, individuals, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
so they too can have a stake in this community. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
Earlier, I met John Clarkson and Lyndon Hoare, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
who are renovating this 1950s semi in Balcombe, West Sussex. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
John and Lyndon have big plans, but need to agree | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
on how they would extend the property for just £50,000. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
I'm bringing them to Tunbridge Wells in Kent, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
to meet a couple who've tackled a similar renovation. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Right, here we are. This is the property I want you to see. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
I think you're going to like it. I'm excited. Shall we have a look? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
-Yeah, let's. -Come on, then. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Executive film producer Tony Holce and his partner Marion Bird | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
previously lived just two doors down | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
from this Georgian end-of-terrace cottage. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
The house was built for railway workers, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
and unusually, since 1940, only one family had lived here. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
It had been empty for 12 months, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
and hadn't been refurbished in 70 years. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
To walk into this place was horrendous! | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
It was yellow with dried nicotine. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
You could see where pictures had been hung, you pulled out three-pin | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
plugs and there was the shape of the plug, which caused us problems | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
because you can never get rid of this unless you get rid of the walls. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
And Tony and Marion had to get their hands dirty to do the place up. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
The roof had to come off. Plumbing, drainage, completely rewired. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
-Everything had to be renewed. -I mean, it was total renovation. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
Yes, not just a refurb, it was...lots of rebuilding. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
They had an initial budget of £70,000 to renovate | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
and add on this spectacular extension. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
But they eventually ended up spending around £100,000 | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
to get the house how they wanted it. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
I suppose if you start literally with a gutted building, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
you can actually say, "Right, it's ours to do what we want with." | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
And I like to think that we've been sympathetic to the original building. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
It's just lovely to have a mix of old and new. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
That's what's worked really well. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Come the winter, we spend a lot of time there with the open fire, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
shut the door and it's nice and cosy and old fashioned, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
and in the summer we can sit out here, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
open the doors and I think that's what's worked really well. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
I think we'd have to go a long way to find something to match it. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
This property was in a similar state to the one | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
Lyndon and John are taking on, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
so I'm hoping they'll glean some useful advice from this visit. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
So, Marion and Tony, this is Lyndon and John. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
-Welcome. -Hi. -In we come, very good. Look at this. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
My hunch is, it's right up your street. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
I think this is absolutely gorgeous, I must say. I think, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
you've shown daring and creativity in taking down a wall here. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:35 | |
And I love this. I love the height difference as well. It's really... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
No, it does work. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
'The area I feel will be of most interest to John and Lyndon | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
'is the extension.' | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Right, so what d'you make of this? Very clean, simple, modern. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:54 | |
It looks great. It really looks super. Lots of light. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Lots of light again, yeah, using the full length of the glass panels. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
It's really given me a sense of what we could do with | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
that space at the back of the house where we want to extend. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
It's nice, it's sleek, it's clean. It's simple. I really like it. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
I love the light, I love the doors, we've talked about bi-fold doors | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
and opening out onto the back yard, so, it's... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
it's exactly the style of thing we're looking for. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
Was that reflected in your budget? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
Are your priorities that, of all the areas, you had to get this one right | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
and you could spend more on the fixtures and fittings? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
It was a priority. Yes, definitely. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Because we do live a lot in here, especially in the summer, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
cos you've got this lovely light. We've got no intentions of moving | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
and probably not going to be doing it again. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
I think it's the things that finally make it your house | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
that cost the extra money. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
'Outside, I want John and Lyndon to get a sense of how clever | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
'the design is for the extension.' | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Now, as we look up, we can see your extension, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
the brick goes higher than the room we were just in. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
-So, have you extended a bedroom up there? -Yes, we squared it off. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
It was just a narrow bedroom, and we've extended it. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
-So, does that ring a few bells, guys? -Just a bit, yeah. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
I suppose, if you were to summarize it, here we see a middle ground. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
We have an extension on the lower floor, a bit of an extension | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
on the top floor. You don't have to come out in a big block, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
but you've got a bit of both. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
How does that strike you as a possibility? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
Very sensible, actually. I can see that working. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Definitely, I think the half and half solution | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
would definitely be one that we would consider | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
very carefully as a potential to extend our smaller third bedroom. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
Just add an extra metre and a half, two metres... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
-It does make a big difference, yeah. -Huge difference. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
With the budget, these guys are trying to work out | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
how far they can make their money go. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
So what did you budget it to cost and how much over did you go? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
60 to 70 was the budget, and it just topped 100,000. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:11 | |
But then, you've got to work out what you set out | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
to include in your budget. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
I think, in fairness, we weren't that far out with the actual build cost, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
but it was when you started looking at furniture, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
appliances, and this was what Marion and I projected long-term. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
So, we wanted, we didn't care | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
whether somebody moving in would like it or not like it. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
So I think, that's the thing you two probably have to think about. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
Is it going to be our home for the next 15, 20 years? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
In which case, just do your own thing. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Guys, it's been a pleasure seeing around your house. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
I'm pleased it's turned out well. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
-I hope it's been useful. -Really useful. -Very interesting. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
It feels like it's been really worthwhile for John and Lyndon, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
and I hope they've been inspired by some of the ideas | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
that have helped make this a beautiful place. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
I'm keen to see what they'll take home from this visit. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
How impressed, how inspired are you with the style | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
and the modern design of what you've seen here? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
I'm definitely very impressed. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
It's certainly given us a lot of food for thought and discussion. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
And there's a view there that you can have a middle ground. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
You don't have to extend one or two storeys, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
you could do one storey and a bit of two storeys, yeah. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
I like that, I like that idea a lot. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
-I think that can work, I can see how that can work for us. -Really? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
Very, very useful. It's been really valuable. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
And we can get the light and the space we wanted, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
but still make that bedroom more usable. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
It still comes down to money. How concerned were you to hear of, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
I mean, pretty large costs compared to your own budget? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
A little, but we'll probably do more hands-on, ourselves. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:52 | |
And, erm, we haven't got as much fundamental stuff to do. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
So, not too bad, we might have to go up a bit. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
I suppose now, having seen this, visualised how it can be, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
-it's time to go home, plan it and make those decisions. -Absolutely. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
We haven't talked to an architect, and that's the next thing. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
So this was the right time to be getting ideas | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
and seeing what could happen. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
-And you're going forward energised, motivated? -Definitely, all of that. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
It's been a good day. Thank you very much. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
It's so good that John and Lyndon could see this place today. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
There are so many comparisons between what's here | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
and what they'd like to do with their empty home. You know what? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
I think it's come at the right time, before they make any big decisions. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:35 | |
Yes, their budget is very tight, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
but with the good practical advice they've heard here, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
I'm confident they can make their money go as far as possible, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
so that very soon, they too will have their own dream home. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
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