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Across the country, empty properties are waiting to be brought back into use.

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I'll be finding out why,

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and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself.

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And along the way, we'll be following the property detectives

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who track down the owners of these forgotten houses

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and help breathe new life into the communities blighted by them.

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And I'll be doing some digging of my own to find out more

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about our housing stock, our heritage,

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and why we should be both preserving and reinventing Britain's empty homes.

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Restoring an empty building requires a passion for property,

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an eye for detail and of course the love of a challenge.

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Now, although the process may test the best of us,

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more and more people are finding that taking on an empty house

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is the best way of affording that home they've always dreamt of.

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On today's show, I'll be meeting a first-time renovator

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who's bought an abandoned building with big plans to overhaul.

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There's still quite a lot that I want to do

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that's a little bit out of the ordinary,

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a few little features here and there.

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And we'll be following one of Britain's empty property officers,

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working to change the fortunes

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of some of the UK's abandoned buildings.

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This is a massive project, isn't it?

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And it's great that it's going to be turned back into two family houses.

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Artist and sculptor George Trigg was on the lookout

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for a home he could both live and work in.

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And he found what he hopes will be the ideal place

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in his home town in Shropshire.

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I think getting that life/work balance within a property

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is something that I've always wanted to do.

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Really so I can get more work done but also involve Seth, my son,

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him having space to run around and play and get creative as well.

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This warehouse measures 2,000 square feet

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and was empty for a year before George took it on.

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Previously used by a building storage company,

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George was quick to spot its potential,

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both as an artistic and a living space.

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What was brilliant about the property

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is the fact that it's just an empty shell,

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which means you can pretty much do anything you want with it, really.

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As a first-time renovator, George is on a steep learning curve,

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but his artistic eye should give him a real advantage.

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I'm looking to get a really slick finish,

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to be comfy, and to have lots of light, which I think is important -

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for life, for playing, but also for work and for sculpture.

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The renovation is barely off the ground,

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but George has already encountered his first obstacle.

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There's been lots of delays with planning,

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with submissions, with charges which I wasn't aware of,

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and it all takes a lot longer than you think it does

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when you first start, really.

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Hopefully, it'll all go very smoothly,

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but I've got a feeling it won't!

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George is at the very beginning of his journey,

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so I'm meeting him at the warehouse

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to hear what his plans are for the building.

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-Hey, George, I'm Joe.

-Hi. Nice to meet you.

-Good to see you.

-How are you? Very well, thanks.

-Excellent.

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-Now, which property are we talking about here?

-It's this one to the side, here.

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Quite an unusual look to it, bolted on the side of this house.

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Yeah, it's sort of tucked just behind, it's much bigger when you get inside

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and it's '70s construction.

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And was it habitable when you took it on?

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Er, no, not at all. It's freezing cold inside! THEY LAUGH

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It's really a sort of concrete block shell, and no insulation at all,

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and there's plants growing into the corner of some of the rooms,

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so yeah, it would be very difficult to live inside at the moment.

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-Let's go and have a look inside, shall we?

-Brilliant, yeah.

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George bought the warehouse for £67,000,

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and from the outside, at least,

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it looks like a big job for a novice renovator.

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Well, George, this is quite a space.

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I love the fact that it's adorned with your work already,

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you've actually been in here as a workshop, have you?

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Yeah, I've been using it as a workshop for about a year now.

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Let's look at the big picture of things - how do you want to divide and use this space?

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It's pretty much 50/50, really.

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This space is going to stay as the work space.

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And then back into the back space,

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I've got a downstairs open-plan living area

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with kitchen, living room, and upstairs, two bedrooms,

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one for me and one for my son, Seth, when he comes to stay,

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but there's still quite a lot that I want to do that's slightly...

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a little bit out of the ordinary, a few little features here and there.

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Now, you're here in the workshop -

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have you put plans in yet to make the rest of it residential?

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Yeah, that's close to being completed, but, erm...

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-There's been a few different issues that I didn't foresee happening, really.

-Like what?

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-There's an affordable housing contribution.

-I hadn't actually heard of that before,

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so that's sort of a levy or tax, if you like,

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that you have to pay to the council, is it?

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-Yeah, that's right.

-And what are they asking for as your contribution?

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How do they measure it in a property like this?

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Well, it's everything that gets turned into residential,

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and it's a rate that's £90 per square metre,

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which for the plans as they are at the moment,

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it's round about £11,000.

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And I'm still waiting to hear on that

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to see what the outcome is, really.

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OK, well, let's continue looking round.

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-We can walk through this and then have a look upstairs, shall we?

-Yeah, absolutely.

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'Planning permission is clearly George's biggest concern

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'and it has stalled his project over the last 12 months.

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'Once he has permission,

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'he intends to have the main living area upstairs

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'and create a comfortable family feel

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'for his two-year-old son, Seth.

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'And to help the budget stretch as far as possible,

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'he plans to be a hands-on renovator.'

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George, this back half of upstairs will be the two bedrooms, will it?

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Yeah, that's right, so one bedroom over that side,

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one over this side, and the bathroom about here.

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So let's talk budget.

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How much do you hope you can do this project for?

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I'm hoping, really, to get it in between about 40-50,000.

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I think I'd really struggle to get together more than that.

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Do you worry that that's quite a tight budget?

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I'm hoping it's a generous budget and allows for the other things,

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but I might end up completing it and then having very little money

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to spend on furniture or anything else, really,

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and having to work a lot harder to make up the difference.

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The point is, it's an exciting time in the project, isn't it,

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because nothing's certain and you're still playing with ideas

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and there's lots of creative options open to you.

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Just can't wait to get started, really.

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I really like this place

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and, actually, I think it's really well-matched to George.

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It's got all the space he needs, but also it needs a creative eye

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to transform it, and I think that's what George brings to this.

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George hasn't taken on a project like this before,

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so it's going to be really good for him to meet people who have been through it,

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who can also help him visualise how to make the best use of this space,

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to make it a home for him and his son.

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Hundreds of thousands of buildings right across the UK

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are left unused and derelict,

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wasting away while the housing shortage continues.

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It's the job of local council empty property officers

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to find these places, work out a plan

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and get them back into the community.

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Jason Hall is doing just that.

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He's on the trail of a derelict building

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in Richmond, south-west London.

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The house holds a prominent position on a bustling commercial street,

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and locals have made a number of complaints

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about pests and fly-tipping.

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This is a property that's in quite a prime location,

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it's on a very busy road.

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There's quite a few defects to the front of it, we've got cracks and missing patches of render,

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and it just looks kind of unsightly, so I need to go in and have a bit of a closer look, really.

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Over the years, the building has been both a home

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and a commercial property.

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Everything seems quite secure.

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We've got a good, strong padlock on there,

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and the letterbox has been secured from the inside,

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so it's quite secure from the front, all in all.

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The house isn't just an eyesore.

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Jason has spotted an even greater issue

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which could cause serious harm to passers-by.

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On the front of the property here, we've got...

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the guttering across the top there is in quite a bad state of repair.

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It's obviously very rusty, it's been there a long time,

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there's a section of it missing on the corner.

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The section that's dropped off is here.

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And if anybody had been at the front of the property here at the time

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and taken that in the head,

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then that would have caused quite a bit of damage, I'm sure.

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With falling debris, Jason needs to assess

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the state of the rest of the building.

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And it's not good news.

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From the side aspect of the property,

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we've got some quite significant subsidence cracks

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in the soil stack that runs up the side of the house.

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There's two quite large cracks in that,

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and again, if that's going to come down,

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then that's going to cause some significant damage.

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The guttering along the side aspect here is also defective.

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The back garden gives Jason a much clearer profile of the house

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and the causes for the complaints.

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There's quite a lot of stuff that's been dumped in the back garden here.

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The original complaint was about fly-tipping.

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So it looks like the fence has been pushed in

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so people can throw stuff over.

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Worse still, some of the waste is extremely hazardous.

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We've got some asbestos sheeting here which has come off a lean-to

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that was off the back of the house here.

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Everyone thinks asbestos is really dangerous, which it can be.

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There is health impact,

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but only if it's broken and the fibres are released,

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but because the back garden isn't overly secure, then if kids, for instance,

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were to come in and jump up and down on this, break it,

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then there could be a health impact associated with that,

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so ideally we'd like to see that removed from the site.

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Jason is keen to find out why a building in a bustling part of town

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is lying vacant.

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He hopes a local developer might provide the missing information.

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I've just met with a local developer, who's given me some information on this site,

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and it appears that the reason it's stayed empty for so long

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is around planning issues.

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Basically, I now need to get hold of the current owner

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and then I can have a chat with him about where we take it from here.

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Jason has now contacted the owner, who's secured the property and plans to turn it into flats.

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Rescuing an empty property is no easy task.

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Many have fallen into total disrepair

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and need a complete overhaul, and it can be very daunting

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dealing with planning and large budgets.

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However, with determination, expert advice

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and, of course, that little bit of luck,

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pretty much anyone can take on an empty home.

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Ian and Deborah Tanner's local church

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had a special connection to the couple -

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it sat right at the end of their garden in Devon.

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Little did they know that it would one day provide them

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with an extreme renovation project and, ultimately, their dream home.

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We've lived in Tamerton Foliot for 25 years plus.

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Our children used to go to play school

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when it was in what was the Sunday school in the church hall,

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so we've known the place for a long time.

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It closed a couple of years before we bought it.

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There was dry rot, wet rot, woodworm here,

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which we've had treated, and I'm sure another 12 or 18 months,

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then it would have been in real trouble

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and probably too much for us to have taken on then.

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Hymn books were still on the pews, and the organ was intact

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when the couple took a leap of faith

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and bought the church at auction for £125,000.

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I used to say it would make a really nice home.

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It's just a beautiful building to maintain as well,

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rather than it go to rack and ruin, for a challenge,

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and it was a good time in our lives to do something.

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The Tanners made every effort to honour the style and history

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of this prominent local church.

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All the window shapes have stayed the same,

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the doors have stayed the same,

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even the paint colour is pretty similar outside

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to what it was before.

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And the renovation also presented Deborah with the chance

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to gain some new skills.

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We really enjoyed looking into all the different aspects

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of the building, and because I had all these windows

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that I knew I was going to need to be doing,

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I've done a City & Guilds stained-glass window-making course,

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so I've just put the first window in, which has given me a lot of pleasure.

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It's like an extra hobby that I've discovered.

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Of course, the couple enjoy the entire house,

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but they do have their favourite features.

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The stairs and the lounge is the best bit for me.

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It's a bit of a decision - do you chop it up,

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do you go for a big open-plan space?

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And we've gone for an open-plan space.

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I think we both really love it.

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I especially like the woodwork that we had sandblasted -

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it was all painted black and it's come up really nice.

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We've used the pulpit of the church in the corner as a bar

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and we've turned some pews into the dinner table.

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As with many renovations of this size,

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budgets and timescales can often spiral.

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But the Tanners managed to stick to a 20-week schedule,

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spending £250,000 in the process.

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We have spent more money than we thought we wanted to spend at the start.

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But it's not about the money, as far as we're concerned -

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it's about having what we've ended up with.

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It's a great place to live in,

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and I think if you want something badly enough, you'll just carry on and do it.

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I'm really proud of the house

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and I'm really proud of what we've achieved.

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We've managed to get through it all without any kind of...

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we haven't had any domestics!

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And it is a joy every night when you come home and see it all.

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And it takes over your life, to a certain extent,

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but it's a great place to live in,

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and, you know, we're both really proud of it.

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We hear a lot about the housing crisis,

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and that's because there are over 100,000 people across the country

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on housing waiting lists, while many properties sit empty.

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And, increasingly, many of these properties

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are former industrial buildings, so then it stands to reason

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that these old mills, old factories, old warehouses,

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could - and should - be turned into much-needed, perfectly good homes.

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I've come to meet Steven Allcock, who's part of the team

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behind a huge industrial conversion that's already in motion.

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Now, Bolton has loads of mills, old mills. Why is this one listed?

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This was the largest mill in Bolton when it was built.

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And, uniquely, it was the first electric mill in the country.

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So it meant you could have huge floors the size of football pitches,

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because the natural light wasn't so important,

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because you had electric lighting.

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And it didn't stay as a cotton mill, did it?

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No, so after five years, it went over to storage and distribution.

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-Great, shall we take a look inside?

-Yeah, of course.

-OK.

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This former cotton mill gained Grade II listed status in 1996.

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The building is huge, covering 300,000 square feet,

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and the aim here is to create 282 much-needed homes in the north-west.

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So, Steve, this is absolutely huge.

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You get a sense of the scale of it up here, don't you?

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But this isn't even the full size of some of the lower floors, right?

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No, some of the lower floors are double again,

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and that used to hold all the machinery, all the engineering works.

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And what kind of mix of housing are you creating here?

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Who is this aimed at?

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They range from one- to three-bedroom apartments,

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but very much there is a first-time buyer element

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in the one-bedroom apartments,

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and we've worked hard to keep them affordable for first-time buyers,

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but they go right away up to a three-bedroom penthouse

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on the top floor that, you know, may appeal to a down-sizer,

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someone that wants that quality.

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Well, you've talked about these spacious apartments.

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We think it's time to have a look at one. Can we see one downstairs?

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Of course. I'll show you one on the fourth floor.

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'Many of the apartments in this development have already been sold,

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'but converting disused industrial buildings into domestic dwellings

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'isn't always possible.'

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So looking forward, then,

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as more and more former industrial buildings sit empty,

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is this a way of creating homes throughout the country?

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If it's the right location and the right building, then yes,

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but it doesn't work in all cases.

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Quite often, mills are in commercial areas

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with no amenities, no green space, not many shops,

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and it's about developers approaching these sensibly

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and thinking them through.

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Well, Steven, it's great to see what's being done here,

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that you can create 280-odd homes out of this gigantic building.

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You're nearly there, just one floor to finish off,

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and I wish you all the best with it.

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I think there's something really exciting about creating homes

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from old industrial buildings, and this is no exception.

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I mean, just look at it. However, big buildings like this

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struggle to find a role in modern-day lives,

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so it is just wonderful now that it can be converted

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to create the homes for hundreds of people for years to come.

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Back in Shropshire, I'm with George Trigg

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who's already bought a disused commercial warehouse

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which he plans to turn into a dual-purpose home and work space.

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'I'm going to introduce him

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'to a couple who also took on an abandoned commercial building

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'and secured the right planning permission

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'to turn it into their dream home.'

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Right, George, this is the place I want to show you. First impressions?

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It looks amazing, yeah. Really nice.

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It was a 19th-century threshing barn originally.

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It stood empty for years and years, derelict.

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The guys, Dave and Pam, who will meet you,

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who took this on, actually lived in the property next door,

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and this is all part of it, and then decided

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this was the challenge they were going to take on, so, like you,

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lots of negotiating with planners, juggling the budget.

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-Shall we go and say hello?

-Yeah, let's do it.

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David and Pamela Ward bought this mid-19th-century barn in Shropshire,

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along with the cottage in the garden, for £270,000.

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Like George's warehouse, the barn had never been lived in

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and was an uninhabitable shell when they took it on.

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All we had was a stony shell with a corrugated-iron Dutch barn roof.

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The enormity of the project soon became clear to Pamela and David

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when they learned the barn was a listed building.

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We built a modern house inside the barn

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and because the barn carried the listing,

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we had to preserve its character as much as possible.

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We were trying to keep the outside look of the building,

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because that, in planning terms, was probably important.

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Turning a barn used for threshing grain

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into a three-bedroom dream home complete with kitchen,

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living room and landscaped gardens took over a year and cost £400,000,

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but Pamela and David don't regret spending a single penny.

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I love this room. It's nice during the day like this,

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it's smashing at night - you can look at the stars -

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and during the day, you can look at the clouds going past.

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The most satisfying part about doing a job like this

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is that it becomes part of you, or you become part of it.

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You can't cost it, you can't price it,

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but it's certainly an enduring satisfaction.

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Well, George, first of all - you walk in, you've got this height,

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which is slightly familiar from your own property we saw earlier.

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What you like about this?

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It's amazing. It's an amazing space,

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and yeah, the amount of light is tremendous, really.

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George here has had a few issues with planning,

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planning going through at the moment,

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but had a bit of a nasty surprise

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with something called the Affordable Homes Contribution.

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Did you have any obstacles,

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or how did you deal with the planning process?

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The cottage is Grade II listed. Everything within its curtilage

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carries the listing, so we had to get listed building consent.

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We had to deal with the conservation officers

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who were pernickety to start out with,

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and their first reaction was, "We don't think the building can be converted."

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But I found that, once we got over our original differences of opinion,

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the planners were very helpful,

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and provided we talked all the time, then it worked all right.

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Yeah, and, George, have you been able to meet your planners?

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I've only really spoken to them over the phone and via e-mail.

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There's that, isn't there? Keep that dialogue going - phone, e-mails,

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whatever you can do - to make sure there's no hidden surprises,

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and you're in constant touch with each other.

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It's really, really helpful, really, because it's hard to know

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just when to leave things or when to keep trying, really.

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Now, I've caught sight of your living room upstairs,

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so shall we go and have a look up there?

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-Yeah, sure.

-By all means.

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It's incredibly light up here.

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Is that what you're looking to do as well, George, with your place?

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Yeah, absolutely. I'm trying to do as many roof lights as possible, really,

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and one of the benefits of it being a flat roof

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is that you can put roof lights in

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without it being too much of a planning issue.

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George is on a very tight budget,

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so where can he make savings or economies? Any advice on that?

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Where we spend a lot of money here is on finishes and extras.

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The flooring here is better than need be.

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You don't have to have glass balustrades,

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which are very expensive. You don't have to have lovely furniture.

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It's the fittings that tend to run away with the money.

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George is at the beginning of this.

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What mindset should you try and adopt throughout?

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What kept you sane as you took on this project?

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Well, what kept me sane was doing each little bit as it came.

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Think laterally about it and see whether there is a different way

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of doing what you are setting out to do.

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If you've got a good relationship with your builder,

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then he's worth his weight in gold.

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Well, guys, thank you. It's been lovely to look around your home.

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I'm pleased it's worked out so well for you.

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It seems ideal, so thank you very much.

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-Thank you very much.

-Some very good advice, yeah.

-Well, very good luck.

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Back in Richmond, empty property officer Jason Hall

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is checking up on a building

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that's at the beginning of its journey back into use.

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This former chapel was built in 1861

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and it's now being transformed into two family homes

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with the help of a grant from the council.

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I'm here to meet up with the architect,

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go through the plans and see how the money's going to be spent.

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The grant has already been approved,

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so we're just waiting for some timescales

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when the building will start and when it's likely to finish.

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-Hi, how are you?

-Very good, very good.

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It certainly looks a lot different to when I came last,

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and obviously the scaffolding's quite a new addition.

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The scaffolding's been up for three or four months now

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and it's keeping the construction nice and dry,

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so we're going to get no more rotting insides,

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and the structure's now nice and safe inside.

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We've got everything propped.

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'The chapel stands in a conservation area,

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'and Jason is keen to see what the architect, Marek Jasinski,

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'plans to do with the council grant.'

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This is a massive project, isn't it?

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It's going to obviously take quite a long time.

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What other plans do you...?

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Well, it's going to take about a year,

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but the main thing at the moment is to get the fabric stable

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and to basically get it watertight.

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Part of it is that you've got to retain the front and the rear wall.

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Yeah, front and rear, and we're going to keep the sides as well.

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We're going to keep as much brickwork as we can

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and all the original features.

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All the money will be going into the refurbishment of the walls,

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really, and the roof. We'll have the original front door over here

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and then two staircases running up the building,

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one for this house and one for that house over there.

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We've also got some French doors out into that courtyard there.

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Effectively, we're going to reuse a lot of the existing structure

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as much as we can but refurbish it.

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This old chapel has fallen victim to the elements over the years,

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and Marek has had to adapt his plans

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to cope with the impact that nature has had on this building.

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So what was one of the biggest problems that you faced?

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Well, the major problem here was this wall, which is unstable,

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primarily because the trees they've let grow down

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the side of the building, but they'd also cut

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the tie beams in the roof,

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which effectively stop the building being held together,

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and that also started to push the roof edge.

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Yeah, it's clear the tree's caused a lot of damage

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to the structure, but it's good that you're keeping as much as possible,

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and it's great that it's going to be turned back into two family houses.

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And what's going to be happening with the windows that are up here?

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Well, these windows are too high at the moment.

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They're ideal for a church but not ideal for a house,

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so we're going to pull those down, cut them in,

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and you'll see the little pointed tops inside the room.

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As you can see, this is quite a high ceiling height in here,

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and that's what we're going to have inside the houses,

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so it's going to be very nice indeed.

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Yeah, it's been really good to meet the architect on site today

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and to go through the plans.

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I think the money's going to be spent well in this project,

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it's going to go into two absolutely lovely family homes

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and it's going to make a feature of a building that, at the moment,

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is a complete eyesore in the middle of this area.

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I've been spending some time with George Trigg

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who's already bought a warehouse he hopes to turn into both a home

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and an artist's studio.

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He's been getting some useful advice

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from a couple who have successfully completed an impressive renovation.

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George, how's it been for you looking round here,

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first of all in terms of visualising

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what, basically, four stone walls can become?

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It's been amazing.

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I mean, just to see something that's such a high level of finish

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and so many lovely little ideas and things that are well thought out.

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Generally, coming away from this,

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how enthused are you to get started?

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I can't wait to get started, really.

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I'm just hoping the planning comes through any day now

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and I can just get those wheels in motion

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and hopefully not come across too many problems on the way,

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and if I do, I'll pop round for tea and have a chat with these guys.

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Well, very good. Honestly, I wish you the best of luck with it.

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It's a great place, you've got some lovely ideas for it,

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and to have that unique work/live studio would just be perfect,

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-so all the best, George.

-Thanks very much.

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Well, George is right at the beginning of his project.

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He's got a very long way to go,

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so this visit has come at just the right time and been very useful.

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Some great advice on offer but, more importantly, lots of inspiration

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and a reminder that it is absolutely possible

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to transform derelict building that's never been lived in

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into a wonderful home,

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so hopefully now he'll go away enthused and very soon

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could have that perfect work space and home he so desires.

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