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Up and down the country, empty properties are waiting to be brought back to life.

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I'll be discovering why

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and how you can turn a diamond in the rough into a gem of a home.

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We'll be following the Empty Property Officers

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whose job it is to track down the owners of these forgotten houses

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and get them back into use

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and I'll be finding out more about our housing stock, our history

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and why we should be both preserving

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and reinventing Britain's Empty Homes.

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Investing in an empty property

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is more than just buying bricks and mortar -

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it's potentially giving a run-down building a new lease of life

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and whether it's a full-scale renovation,

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knocking down a wall or just a lick of paint,

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it's the emotional investment that goes into making it a home again

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that's driving many more people to take these properties on.

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On today's show, a couple who've taken the plunge

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and bought an empty home

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and are after some guidance on how to go about transforming it.

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Our worry is the money side of things

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if we've not got the money saved up, but if we can do it...

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You're never going to have enough money!

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We'll hear about a scheme

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which houses tenants in some rather unusual vacant buildings.

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Is it weird living in a school?

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It's one of the best places I've ever lived, really.

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I just think it's great.

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And we'll be following one of Britain's Empty Property Officers

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on his mission to get deserted dwellings back into use.

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Dave, have you seen this?

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Probably one of the biggest post pile-ups I've seen.

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That's five years' worth at least.

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Jack Briggs and his girlfriend Lisa Leighton

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have recently purchased their first home together -

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this 1930s three-bedroom detached house near Derby.

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You saw straight away, didn't you? How much potential it had.

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I walked around and saw nothing majorly wrong,

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and it was in a really nice area

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so I thought, "Yeah, this is the one we're going for."

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The house has been empty for 18 months

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and they managed to snap it up for £150,000.

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That's £50,000 below the original asking price.

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Although the structure is sound, it's in a bad decorative state

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and needs complete modernisation.

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We're doing the whole house. There's nothing, really, we're not doing.

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We're doing every aspect of it.

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Jack is a plumber

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and has already installed a new central heating system.

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With a tight renovation budget of £16,000,

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the couple are planning to do a lot of the renovation themselves.

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I do a lot of work for free for friends and family,

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so now it's sort of time to recall them favours.

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The only real professional person

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we're having in to restore the parquet flooring,

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because I think that's something that...

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We don't want to get wrong, do we?

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And I'd like a sort of traditional craftsman to do it.

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The plan is to restore many of the period features,

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replace the fireplace with a log burner

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and also put in a downstairs loo and a new kitchen.

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..the end result to be like a country-style kitchen.

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I want a big table in the dining room where we can all sit around.

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Traditional family home, that's what I'd like in the end.

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'I'm meeting Jack and Lisa at their house

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'to see what they've taken on

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'and to find out what their plans are for the place.'

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Morning, guys, how you doing?

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-Hi.

-Hi, Lisa.

-Nice to meet you.

-Hi, Jack. How are you doing?

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This is your place, isn't it? You've just bought it.

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-Yeah.

-So how did you find it and what attracted you to it?

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We used to walk the dog around here

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and just by accident, stumbled across this

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and then we rang the estate agent when we seen it was for sale

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and demanded a viewing immediately.

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Guys, I'm really impressed. It looks great from the outside.

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I suggest we pop in and have a look inside, shall we?

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So this is the kitchen. Clearly you've stripped it back to brick.

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What's the plan? What's the layout going to be?

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First of all, we're going to move the window so it's central

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and then we'll have cupboards going all the way around into a U-shape.

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-OK.

-But then, the reason why we're moving the window

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is so we can get two corner cupboards in so it looks symmetrical.

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-Very wise.

-The sink's going to be under the window,

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cooker's going to be here, and the fridge is going to be over there.

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Great. And will you try and get anywhere to sit in here

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-or keep that for the dining room?

-I want a breakfast bar,

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but it depends whether they can fit it in and it doesn't look cramped.

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So maybe one of the counters

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-would come out a bit further to sit round.

-Yeah.

-OK.

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And I can see you've obviously got some work going on upstairs.

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-Right, let's go and have a look, shall we?

-Yep.

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The couple have a five-year plan for their property.

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Once all the initial work is completed,

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phase two will be to build a double-storey extension

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which would give them a bigger kitchen and two extra bedrooms.

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What about the extension?

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When does that take place? What are the plans for it?

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We want to sort of get this done first, move in,

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get more money, that will give me the finance to do the extension.

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-OK. So it's very much a two-stage process?

-Yeah.

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What are your concerns over that?

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Have you looked into any of the planning side or the costings or anything like that?

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-Not really.

-Not yet.

-I'd have thought planning permission

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would be one of the problems, cos I've never done it before.

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A lot of the houses on this street have got extensions

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so I don't think it would be a problem,

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but I guess it's just going through the whole stage

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of applying for it and everything.

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I've got to ask, why do you want to extend?

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Because it is a good-sized property as it is.

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Well, eventually, I would like four children

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so just having the extra bedrooms,

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-they can all have a bedroom to themselves, really.

-Right.

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You're quite quiet throughout this, Jack. Is that OK?

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I thought we were just having extra games rooms and things like that!

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Well, it certainly has the potential to be a spacious family home,

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plus there's also a generous-sized garden.

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Guys, it's been great to look around the house.

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Really exciting project

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and I can see you're both well up for the challenge as well.

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Anything, looking ahead, that concerns you?

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Or anything you'd like to know a bit more about?

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Just really the extension and the planning of that,

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things like that, I've never done anything like them before.

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Be good to go around peoples houses and look at how they've done it,

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especially the kitchen as well.

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I'd like to see what their layouts are

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and see if we could change ours to make a breakfast bar fit.

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Later, we'll go and see a property that's been fully renovated.

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The couple behind it have been through all this

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and come out the other side, so that's very encouraging.

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They've also extended, so there should be lots of practical advice

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about how to go about it,

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-so hopefully that sounds like a worthwhile thing to do?

-Yep.

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It's so nice that these guys have found a place they really love

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and they've got big plans to turn this into a sizeable family home.

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In that way, it's really helpful that Jack has plenty of practical skills, particularly in plumbing,

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but on a tight budget, there are always going to be challenges ahead

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so I think it's going to be really good for them to meet someone

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that's already been through this

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and can help them with a bit of advice and inspiration.

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Up and down the country,

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empty properties are in a state of disrepair,

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abandoned and unloved, just waiting to be brought back to life.

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But there are a team of dedicated Empty Property Officers

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who make it their mission to track down these abandoned buildings

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and get them lived in again.

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In Enfield, North London,

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Dave Carter has brought over 800 buildings back into use.

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Today, Dave's visiting a house which has been empty for five years.

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First impressions of this house are that it doesn't look too bad.

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Just looks OK generally,

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pretty average house, but then when you look a bit more closely,

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you can see the garden path is completely obscured

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with bushes and overgrowth

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but overall, not such a bad house.

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Recently, neighbours have complained about rats in the garden.

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You can clearly see the height of these bramble bushes

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and the trees at the back.

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This is a likely source where they could be nesting.

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The previous owner of the house passed away

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and left it to a relative.

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Dave has tried several times to get in touch with them,

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but has had no response.

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So he's called in a locksmith to help him get inside,

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in the hope that he can find out more about the case.

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He's joined by Council Enforcement Officer John Childs.

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Interesting house, this one.

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It's all very sad. It's like it's just been left, isn't it?

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On the day of the funeral, they've just locked up and gone.

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Look at this, Dave.

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It looks as if there's been some visitors in the past.

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Mouse droppings, it looks like.

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-Yeah.

-Doesn't look like anything fresh, though.

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But it seems that mice have been the only recent visitors.

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-Dave, have you seen this?

-My God!

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It's probably one of the biggest post pile-ups I've ever seen.

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-That's five years' worth at least. And it's still growing.

-Yes.

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And venturing upstairs, there's an even bigger surprise.

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-I noticed the boiler was on.

-Really?

-Yep.

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Leaving a nice, toasty warm hall. The cylinder is in here.

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So it does make you wonder whether bills have been paid recently,

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because otherwise it would have been cut off.

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Must be someone paying it by direct debit.

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When I came in here to take photographs,

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I had this peculiar feeling that I was coming to someone's active home

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-but it evidently isn't the case.

-No.

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Dave looks for any other clues which could help lead him to the owner.

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There's a book here about wills and probate

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so clearly someone's been to the house and started the process,

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but why haven't they finished?

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It is a mystery.

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Dave leaves a note for the owner, asking them get in touch

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before he's forced to issue a compulsory purchase order.

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'It's just very, very sad looking round it.'

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The house has just literally been abandoned,

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but there was a few clues I picked up.

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There was letters sent to the old couple that lived here.

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I've noted down some names and addresses.

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I'll contact them and see if they know the whereabouts

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of any relatives that might lead me to find out what's happened here

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because at the minute, it is just a mystery.

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Despite Dave's best efforts, the owner has still not been in touch

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so he'll have to seriously consider a compulsory purchase order

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to get this house back into use.

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People all over the country are taking on empty properties

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and restoring them to make them habitable again.

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So whether it's an old factory,

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an office block, a quaint country cottage or a Victorian terrace,

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these places are being transformed into unique homes.

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In 2007, Jon and June Higgins

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bought this derelict barn in South-west Wales for £200,000.

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One day we saw it on the very front of the local newspaper

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that this barn was up for sale.

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So a friend of ours rang the estate agent, made an appointment

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-and we fell in love first time we saw it.

-You did.

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-Well, I...

-Jonathan did.

-I could see the potential.

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The barn dates back to 1848

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and is part of the Pembrokeshire National Park,

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but it had been empty for almost 50 years.

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In the carthouse area,

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because the pigeons had been living there for so long,

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there was about four or five inches of bird poo

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on the floor, and what is now the dining area was full of water.

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That was quite daunting at the beginning.

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In the '60s, chickens were kept in our kitchen area.

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There was a pigsty and that's now the downstairs bathroom.

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More recently, they kept cattle in the downstairs area,

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which are now the guest bedrooms

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and the farmer did keep his tractor in the carthouse.

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But with renovations come challenges.

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The survey revealed that the foundations weren't secure

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so two-thirds of the walls needed to be knocked down and re-built.

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We didn't actually see the walls coming down, happily!

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We just arrived once they'd been taken down.

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There was just a heap of stones, basically,

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and the builder said at the time, "Don't worry,

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"it'll look a lot worse before it gets better."

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Because the barn is part of the National Park,

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their design plans were limited.

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We weren't allowed to change it from the outside.

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It had to look exactly the same when we started as when we finished,

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which it near enough does, only better.

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My favourite room is the upstairs landing gallery area,

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where I've got all my toys,

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my records, my guitar, the computer.

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I do like the sitting room.

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It's nice and cosy when we have the wood-burning stove in the evening.

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But most of my time is spent in the garden room

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because the view is just stunning.

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It took £340,000

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and 13 months to complete the renovation

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but now they have the dream home they've always wanted.

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It was a worthwhile wait

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cos, you know, we've ended up with a lovely property

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and we've saved a building that was perhaps going...

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going to rack and ruin.

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There are sometimes valid reasons why properties sit empty.

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They may, for example, be awaiting planning permission

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to be redeveloped or sold.

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But while they're empty, they're vulnerable

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and one of the best ways to protect them

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is to have people living in them -

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otherwise known as property guardians.

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A property guardian is someone who lives in an empty building

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and takes care of it for the owners.

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They pay a minimal rent and in return ensure its upkeep,

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deterring vandalism and theft.

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This primary school in Newcastle

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is the residence of six property guardians.

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I've come to meet Nick Hilton from Ad Hoc Property Management

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to find out more about the scheme.

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Can we have a look inside?

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-Certainly. After you.

-Thank you.

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Property guardians are living in a building as their own home

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to prevent the type of problems you get with empty buildings.

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That could be squatting,

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anti-social behaviour, break-ins, metal theft, fly-tipping.

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When a building is left on its own, it tends to be very vulnerable.

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And is this place typical? What sorts of properties do you take on?

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We take on everything, really.

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We have properties of all different shapes and sizes,

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ranging from huge schools and care homes and hospitals and clinics,

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ex-council flats. We even have a grave-digger's cottage

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in the middle of a cemetery at the moment.

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In some ways, isn't this sort of legalised responsible squatting?

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Absolutely. That's a very good way of putting it,

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so you get all the benefits of a building being in use

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without the antisocial behaviour

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that can sometimes accompany squatting.

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Will has been living here for 16 months.

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Is it weird living in a school?

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It is a bit weird, but I think you get used to it.

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Well, I certainly got really used to it. For me now, it's just home.

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-Right.

-The one downside is that you have to come out of your room

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and cross a corridor to go to the toilet in the middle of the night,

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rather than stumbling through your living room.

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-You pay £180 a month here.

-Yep.

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What would you be paying in private accommodation?

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I was paying 375 per calendar month, and that didn't include anything,

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whereas here, that 180 includes all amenities.

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Is it a problem here, you don't know who you'll be living with?

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-Is that an issue at all?

-Not really.

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All the rooms are all separately lockable, and also,

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people get vetted through the scheme anyway.

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There's certain criteria you have to meet.

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-You have to be employed, you have to be...

-OK.

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And now you've found this place

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and you've experienced the scheme of being a property guardian,

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are you going to stay with it?

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Is it something that suits you now for the foreseeable future?

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Probably, yes.

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If I ended up getting some amazing kind of job,

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then I would probably look at investing in a house, but

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I wouldn't go back to the expensive rental market at the minute.

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It's one of the best places I've ever lived, really.

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I just think it's great.

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Now, there's no denying that an empty building is bad news,

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but this innovative scheme really does have its benefits.

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Not only do local people have

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somewhere unusual and affordable to live,

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but also the wider community,

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they no longer have to worry about a building like this

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attracting anti-social behaviour.

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Back in Derby, I'm taking Jack and Lisa to see an impressive renovation

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to give them some inspiration and tips for their own empty home.

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Right, guys, this is the property I want you to see.

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From first glance, it's pretty apparent

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it's a little bit older than your property. This is 1900,

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yours is 1930s. It hadn't been touched for 15 years.

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We're talking total renovation here.

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Probably a bit more than you're doing,

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but the same principles apply -

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get in, strip it back and make it your own.

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Chris and Lisa Hunt bought this dilapidated cottage

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at auction for £134,000

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and so far, they've spent a further £100,000 renovating it.

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It was in a very, very poor state of repair.

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It was completely boarded up.

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There was nothing in it, no electrics, no windows,

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no floors in some parts.

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Ceilings were missing, completely, nothing, really.

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It sits in the grounds of a 200-acre wood

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which used to be part of a theme park.

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Chris and Lisa love the idyllic location

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and wanted to enjoy the spectacular views from their home.

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As we're in the woodland, we thought

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it'd be nice to incorporate the outside with the inside,

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so we tried to get as much glass in as we could,

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and it's worked really well.

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We love it. The different angles of the roof

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and the flat bit there and picture windows, it just looks really nice.

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We're proper in love with it now. It's lovely.

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They extended the property to give them more living space

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and after 18 months of hard work,

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Chris and Lisa have almost completed their dream home.

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To get something that's got your print on it,

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you've got to go through this... pain, if you like!

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To get there, but at the end of it, if you go through it,

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it's well worth it at the end of it.

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So here we have an extended kitchen/dining area.

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First impressions?

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-It's beautiful.

-Marvellous.

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What was the state of this property like when you took it on?

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When we bought it, it was a toss of a coin whether we bulldozed it

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and knocked it down or whether we renovated it

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but the wife got this thing about the stone sills and cottagey look.

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She wanted to keep all the outside, the prettier bit of it

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but she wanted the modern living.

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What do you guys think of the kitchen layout?

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The U-shape is quite similar to what you had in mind.

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Yeah, it's really exactly what we wanted, the shape we want.

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And you can, from seeing a breakfast bar,

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imagine it in yours if there's space.

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If there's space, yeah, I can imagine it in ours.

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What do you think of having this extra space?

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It's obviously, does it reinforce some of your plans and ideas?

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Yeah, it does, really.

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Because there is...I never thought we could have a kitchen diner.

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When you think about this being turned from a shell into this,

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does it encourage you?

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-It does...

-Yeah.

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But I guess our worry is the money side of things,

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if we've not got the money saved up,

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-but if we can do it...

-You're never going to have enough money!

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Is there more of an opportunity

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-to save money if you plan it carefully?

-Yeah, definitely.

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You can shop around, source materials and that,

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get on the internet. You save fortunes by looking about on there

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and if you're not too proud, use a bit of reclaimed stuff as well.

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The same with pricing, if you're having new stuff,

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always get four or five quotes.

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Get your list out, e-mail it to everybody

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and then look around at the best, see which you're happy with.

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In addition to this spacious kitchen and living room,

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this charming cottage also has two bedrooms and a study.

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So, this is a key part of the extension.

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Where did the building come up to before, Chris?

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It finished there.

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-There?

-Yeah, the actual wall there

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is the back wall of the actual cottage,

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so all this side of it is new build.

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Right. And in terms of planning, any advice you can pass over?

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How did you start on the planning process?

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We employed a good architect, talked about what we wanted.

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We were quite strong in own minds about what we wanted

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but putting that onto paper

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and getting it through the council's a different ballgame.

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We didn't attempt that ourselves. Get a professional to do that.

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Although you're not at phase two yet,

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have you thought about getting plans drawn up

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or have you spoken to an architect at all?

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No, we've not done anything like that yet.

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We're just going to get the initial renovation done

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-and then we'll go from there.

-Great.

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Well, look, you have loads on your plate in terms of the renovation,

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but if you could find time for it,

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it's never a bad thing to get a few drawings,

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know what it is you're aiming for

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because at least then you could start the planning process.

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Once you've got planning permission,

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you don't have to build now, you could build in two years' time,

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-but at least you know it's possible...

-Yeah.

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And you know you can go ahead with it when you want.

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Yeah, definitely, yeah.

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-I know an architect.

-OK.

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-So again, it's a favour for a favour, I hope!

-Yeah!

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Well, Chris, thank you. I'm pleased it's turned out so well.

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It's hard to believe it was such a derelict shell

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and now it's a very lived-in, very beautiful home

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-so thank you for showing us your house.

-No problem.

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-And guys, I hope it's been helpful having a look around.

-It has.

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In Enfield, Empty Property Officer Dave Carter

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is checking up on a house that's been vacant for two years.

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The house had fallen prey to squatters

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but the good news is, an owner has now come forward.

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The current owner has called me

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and said, "Look, Dave, I need some help.

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"I'm trying get this house back into use, so I need to do a quick survey,

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"see if it's eligible for a grant from the council

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"and then I can talk to them

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"about options for getting this house back into use as soon as possible."

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The squatters have moved on

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and the house is boarded up

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and Dave needs to get inside to assess the damage.

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Ah, right yes, now this...

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Straightaway, this strikes out to me as being a bit of a suspicion.

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A lot of the Artex before 1990

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is known to contain asbestos.

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This certainly looks pre-1990. I'm going to have to get it checked.

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It's not a good start before I even get in the main part of the house.

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The squatters have left the house in a terrible state.

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This fuse box has been tampered with,

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we've got wires that have been sliced

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and fuses there that have been missed.

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We're going to have to get the whole electrics checked out.

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But it's not just the electrics that are a cause for concern.

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Boiler looks like it's got some sort of "Do not use"

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so I'm pretty sure that, you know,

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any gas safe engineer who comes in here is going to condemn that.

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The garden itself is evidence of the squatters.

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There's even a disabled buggy out there.

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It'll all have to be cleared out.

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It's going to have to be re-lawned as well out there.

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Just a bit of a mess all round.

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'I'll go back, prepare a schedule of works for the owner,

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'speak to him about getting the house back into use as soon as possible'

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and we can get the house loved again.

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It was a neighbour who alerted the council to the squatters

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and now Dave wants to update them

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to reassure them that matters are in hand.

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I believe you've had quite a few years of problems.

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Yeah, about... Must be at least three years.

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We had squatters in for about seven months,

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and there was about 20 of them in there.

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It was, you know, it was an absolute nightmare.

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Hopefully, I'm in touch with the owner now,

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he seems like he's got a plan for the house.

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I think we are going to be able to help him out with a grant,

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so thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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I'm glad I've been able to help you.

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-No, that's fine. Thank you for all your help.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye, then.

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The owner has since decided to sell the property

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and the new owner is carrying out renovations.

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It makes us feel happy.

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We won't have to have a boarded property next door to us,

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and hopefully, nice neighbours.

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Jack and Lisa have been getting some valuable advice

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about transforming their empty property into their perfect home.

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So guys, having had a look around, what are your thoughts?

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Yeah, really good.

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He's managed to keep the cottage,

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but with all modern features in, things like that.

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And I think really good advice is that it's never too soon

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-to be looking into the planning side of things.

-Yeah.

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It means that when you are ready and the money's available,

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-you know what you can do.

-Yeah, definitely.

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I think that's something we'll look at doing quite quickly.

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And overall, it must show you you're on the right path.

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I mean, this was a complete derelict shell, and now it's a lovely home.

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-Yeah.

-Yours was never in such a bad condition,

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and you're well on the way, so that must feel pretty good?

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-Yeah. It does.

-Yeah, it's quite uplifting to see that can be done.

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I'm really impressed, actually, with everything you've done so far.

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You're well on your way and you're going to have a great home there,

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so I do wish you the very best of luck

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and I hope you're in before the end of the year

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-and you can start enjoying it.

-Thank you.

-Good luck.

-Thank you.

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I think there's been some really good inspiration for Jack and Lisa today,

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particularly with the layout, the design and some of the features,

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but also, some good, practical advice

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of what they need to think about for their next stage -

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building that extension.

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So with all that behind them,

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plus the work they've already done on their house,

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I've got no doubts that before long,

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they're soon going to have that family home they so desire.

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