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Up and down the country,

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there are empty properties just waiting to be brought back to life.

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I'll be finding out why

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and what you can do to rescue a home for yourself.

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We'll be following the empty property officers whose job it is to

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track down the owners of forgotten houses and get them back into use.

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And I'll be doing some digging of my own to find out

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more about our housing stock, our history, and why

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we should be both preserving and reinventing Britain's empty homes.

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In remote parts of the countryside,

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empty properties can end up unloved and abandoned for many years.

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And if you can find one, well, that's only the job half-done

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because doing up an empty home can be a genuine labour of love.

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On today's show, a family come together to rescue a derelict

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Victorian cottage in Herefordshire.

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I had a phone call from Dan on Valentine's Day and he just said,

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"We've bought a house."

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A spectacular 16th century manor house in Portsmouth is being

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turned into homes after being empty for eight years.

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First impressions were, "It's not too bad, it's OK."

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But the more we discover about it, the more difficult the challenge is.

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And one of Britain's empty property officers who's on a mission

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to bring abandoned buildings in Enfield back into use.

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It's believed that there may be rats living there, foxes...

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The neighbours just want to see a resolution,

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they want to see the house occupied again.

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Head teacher Clare Kelly has worked in Dubai for

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the last three years, but is looking for a home in the UK.

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Her younger brother, Dan, and mum, Jenny, started

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looking for a renovation project near their homes in Herefordshire.

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And when they discovered a derelict Victorian cottage, they knew

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it would make a perfect home for Clare, but it came with a bonus.

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I had a phone call from Dan on Valentine's Day and he just said,

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"We've bought a house

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"and guess what? You've got a chapel as well!"

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The family bought the cottage and chapel for ?183,000.

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They cleverly plan to renovate both

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and use the money from the sale of the finished chapel to fund

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Clare's cottage and, hopefully, make a profit too.

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The Methodist chapel was built in the 1860s by two sisters,

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who owned the cottage at the time.

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Um, the chapel, in my understanding,

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has fell into disuse in the 1950s.

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'It's a family affair.

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'Clare's mum, Jenny, will be overseeing the budget,

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'whilst brother Dan and father Jim, both experienced renovators,

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'will be getting hands-on with the project.'

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Dad and Dan will do all the work on the house and then, hopefully,

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we'll be able to use the chapel to sort of offset their input.

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I'm obviously sat in sunny Dubai with my feet up,

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whilst they're in the cold British winter doing all the hard work,

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so I'd really like there to be something for them

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to get out of it at the end as well.

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'They plan to extend the cottage,

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'to create a three-bedroom detached house.'

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The front aspect of the property will be retained almost

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exactly how it is now, because I think it is absolutely charming.

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'It will be a team effort to get Clare into the cottage on schedule

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'and Dan, who's also a teacher, is expecting some challenges ahead.'

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There's going to be disagreements. There will be.

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You know, that's just sort of human nature,

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but, I mean, we didn't go into this with our eyes shut, you know?

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They were firmly open in terms of that we would work together.

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I think that we're all excited about it.

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I'm really hoping that next summer when I come home, I'll be able

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to say to friends, "Come and stay in my new house." That's the plan.

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We're not a particularly patient family...

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I'm probably more patient than you.

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Yeah, on this one you're going to have to be as well, because, you

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know, when I say 12 months,

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you know, it could be a little bit longer.

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Clare, her brother, Dan, and mum, Jenny, are going to tell me

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more about their joint venture.

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Morning, I'm Joe. Hi, Jenny. Clare. Dan, how are you?

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Now, this is a slightly unusual situation,

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a bit of a family effort going on.

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Um...whose house is this?

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Um, I suppose it's mine.

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What's that over there?

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That's an old Methodist chapel which was bought as one lot,

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so the plan is possibly to do something with

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that in the future after we've sorted my sister's house out.

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Goodness! OK, well, look, it's a cute little thing from the outside.

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Shall we go and have a look inside and see what you're going to do?

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It won't take long. It's not very big!

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Like many period cottages,

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this tiny one-bed home is not generous in size.

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Clare is concerned whether

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she can make the space work as a modern home.

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What were your first impressions when you came here?

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Actually, it's small, but it's in a pretty good state, isn't it?

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Yes, it was in better condition than I expected it to be,

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but it was much, much smaller and I was just like...

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"Wow!"

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This is classified as what? A one bedroom? One bedroom.

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You've got this room, exactly the same upstairs - which is

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essentially the bedroom - and then through there, a small kitchen.

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Stairs upstairs to the bathroom.

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And what is the plan? You're going to extend at the back, are you?

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Yes, it's going... These walls will come out.

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It's not going exactly mirrored. It's sort of, um, a slight L shape.

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And upstairs then, you're going to have a big master bedroom

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and a couple of guest bedrooms, that's the idea?

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There's three bedrooms, they're all of reasonable size, but

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none of them are massive. OK, well, there's not a lot to look round,

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but shall we just poke our heads through this way?

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The interesting challenge here is how to create a double-storey

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extension whilst retaining the character of the cottage.

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Here we are in what is effectively the master bedroom,

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but also the only bedroom. Uh, and things like the roof and

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the wooden beams, are they going to be staying, ideally?

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We'll keep as much of it as we can in terms of the timber.

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A little bit of character is good.

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Yeah, I mean, some of the woodwork is actually very good.

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Now, a lot of work ahead.

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Who's going to be doing the lion's share of it?

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Mostly Dan and his dad.

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Right. Obviously, specialist jobs, we'll get people in.

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But you're a teacher, so you can't be spending the next year... No.

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..doing this project. How does that work then?

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Your dad takes over, or...?

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No, it'll literally be weekends, evenings,

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so we've sort of given ourselves 12 months to get this

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finished from once the planning comes through.

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Right, so 12 months for the cottage. Yeah.

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And then the chapel, that's the idea at the moment? Yeah.

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It seems the family has the extension

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and modernisation all planned out,

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but with Dan taking on these two properties

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and juggling a full-time job, has he bitten off more than he can chew?

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As a family, you've got some experience of renovations

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and even sort of building your own house, Dan.

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What's the challenge here? How is this different?

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It's different on a couple of levels, really.

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Um, I had a huge amount of help in terms of building my own house,

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you know, and it was just getting a bit of a taste for it.

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Um, I'll be more involved in a way in building Clare's house,

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but also the chapel in the grounds, that's going to be an unknown,

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really, so we're not sure in terms of what hidden dangers

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and pitfalls there are in terms of that, but that's the excitement.

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That's the difference, really. What I think is going to be useful

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is to take you to meet a couple who've been through this before.

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It'll be interesting to get some advice from them

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on how they managed, but also the property,

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like here, was a very small cottage

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and very difficult to live in and was extended.

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So, lots of similarities there and hopefully some inspiration as well.

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So, does that sound useful? Yeah. Yes, it does. Perfect.

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I think this is quite a tricky project.

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First of all, there are two properties here, not just one,

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but also, doing a lot of the work themselves,

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it could be difficult for Dan to find the time, given he's got

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a full-time job and a young family,

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to make sure this cottage is finished within 12 months.

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It's going to be really good for them to meet a couple who've done

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just that, who've taken on a small agricultural worker's cottage

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and transformed it into a modern home.

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Sadly, not all of Britain's forgotten buildings are rescued

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and brought back to life, but local councils are taking action

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and it's the job of empty property officers to track these

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buildings down and work to bring them back into the community.

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In his 12 years of experience in Enfield, Dave Carter

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has brought over 600 abandoned abodes back into use.

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I'm on my way to visit a property which is in one of the more

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affluent areas of Enfield.

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I've received several complaints about the state of the overgrown

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garden, and the neighbours generally are not happy with

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the state of the property. Um, they just want to see a resolution.

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They want to see the house occupied again.

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Dave wants to deal with these complaints,

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but first he has to track down the owner.

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However, he has no idea where they are.

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I came here a few weeks ago and immediately what strikes me is,

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obviously, the car on the drive.

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Um, I'm wondering whether...

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somebody might be here. It's quite a new car.

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Anyway, I think I'd better check if there's anybody in first of all.

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Hm. Well, that's interesting as well.

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That lock looks as if it's been changed recently.

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It's...unscratched, still sparkling.

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It seems that someone may have visited this house recently.

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Dave goes round the back to see if the garden's been tended to. Ah!

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Well, that's a fox's heaven in here.

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It's just a complete mess.

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Well, I'm not going to go hunting for any foxes,

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because if they are there I won't disturb them.

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I'm more concerned today with trying to find the owner.

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I'll call it a day at this end of the property.

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Dave canvasses the neighbourhood to see if anyone can tell him

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about the owner or the car in the driveway.

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Hello!

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I'm trying to...um...

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investigate the house a couple of doors along.

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The lady who lived there, did you know her?

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I knew her, she used to walk around and everything.

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Um, and then she was taken into a home.

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Unfortunately, you know, I haven't seen or heard from her since. Right.

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Sorry to have bothered you. Oh, that's OK.

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Thanks for the information. No problem. Take care.

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Dave carries on knocking on doors, but there are no more leads.

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I have heard she was in a home. Right.

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And we've lived here a long, long time, but I've never seen her.

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All right, well, it's been... I can't help you.

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..interesting speaking to you. OK, all right. Bye-bye. Thank you, bye.

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It's a dead end, until the next-door neighbour comes to talk to Dave.

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Hiya, I'm Dave Carter from Enfield Council.

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It turns out that the neighbour's daughter has been using

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the empty driveway to park her car, but that's not all.

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I did come and visit the property about a month ago.

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Have you noticed any activity recently?

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I get the feeling the locks may have been changed?

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Yeah, I think we came home about three weeks ago

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and Barnet Council were here.

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Three weeks ago?

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About three weeks ago, because she is in a home in Barnet.

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Right, cos I...that's another thing you've covered for me then.

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Do you know...the address or the name of the care home? No, not at all.

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Not known, right.

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I just want to find out who is responsible for this house. Yeah.

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You've been very, very helpful. Thank you. Nice to meet you.

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Hopefully I'll get to the bottom of it. Yeah.

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I think today's visit has been very successful indeed.

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I've gleaned that the owner is alive, that she's in a care home,

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so I know I can go down that angle.

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There's been activity at the house. Someone's changed the locks. Who?

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I don't know, but somebody is involved.

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So, I'm confident that it shouldn't be too long before

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I can solve this mystery.

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And since filming, Dave has located the owner and is working

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alongside Barnet Council to bring the house back into use.

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If you've noticed abandoned properties in your area

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and fancy the challenge of taking one on,

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contact local estate agents, neighbourhood watch groups

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and local shop-owners to see if they have any information,

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or get in touch with your local empty property officer.

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In East London, Richard and Helen Portchmouth

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were lucky enough to find an old garage for sale

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and set about transforming it into an amazing modern home.

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In 2000, Richard and Helen were searching in London

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for a property to house their growing family.

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Unable to afford their ideal home,

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they were looking for a site they could adapt.

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We had been looking, uh...

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for probably over two years for a site.

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They're very hard to find and, on this occasion,

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I'd been out all Saturday afternoon.

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The weather was very sort of showery,

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big thunderstorms around,

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so I was cycling as quick as I could to get back home and then,

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out of the corner of my eye, I saw this name-board on site

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and I was just completely mesmerised.

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He came all the way back, soaking wet on his bike and, you know,

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we drove straight out there.

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I couldn't believe he spotted it.

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Two disused garages formerly used by market stall traders to store

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fruit and veg...

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they now form a stunning contemporary residence.

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The whole place was, um, very, very rundown

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and decrepit and, um...

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very, very sort of basic whitewashed walls, brickwork downstairs

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and, uh, the roof timbers were half sort of rotten

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and an old corrugated iron roof on the top, but, also,

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they had a sort of character about it.

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Richard knew he would create their ideal family home,

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but, initially, Helen had doubts.

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To start off with, I was a bit, um...

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uneasy about the scale of the project cos I knew it would

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be a huge undertaking and we were expecting a baby,

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but we started getting very excited about the whole project.

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Richard and Helen bought both units for ?75,000 and spent

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approximately ?100,000 on renovating one unit into a three-bedroom home.

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The build wasn't without its challenges.

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The real problem was time.

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Richard was...was absolutely always either at work or on the site, so,

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you know, Richard didn't get to see much of our daughter

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for about...uh, two or three years, really.

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Yeah, when I look back on it, I think...yes,

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I'm not quite sure how we did it, but we did it.

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The family moved into the property in 2003,

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but it took them a further two years to finish it.

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The eye-popping exterior is a folded sheet of galvanised steel

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and has made the house a local landmark.

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Not a sort of pretty, little mews,

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it's actually quite a tough, working mews

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and we thought the materiality should reflect that

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and that's why were interested in using the metal cladding.

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So we can just refer to it as the metal house on the corner.

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The build was... It took two years and then we moved in.

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We couldn't live on the ground floor when we first moved in,

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actually, cos it was still boarded up

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and the downstairs was effectively a workshop.

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Despite their challenging journey, Helen and Richard couldn't be

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happier they took a risk on such an unusual space.

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This site and the house, everything rolled into one, really.

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It offers us so much, I couldn't quite picture us anywhere else.

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Resuscitating old buildings and bringing them

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back into use isn't just a way of creating new homes.

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Restoring a period property is a way of preserving our past

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and taking care of our heritage for generations to come.

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The South-east of England has the second largest number of empty

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properties in the whole country, and here in Portsmouth

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there are 4,500 properties that have lain empty for six months or more.

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Well, I've come to see one in particular,

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one with a very grand yet supposedly spooky history.

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In the middle of a 1960s' housing estate sits

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Wymering Manor House, a grade-two listed stately home.

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Locals have banded together forming a trust to save

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it from dereliction, bring it into community use, and create new homes.

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'Andy Mason is involved in the project

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'and has agreed to give me a tour.' How are you?

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Andy, this is somewhat an unexpected surprise.

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It's not what you'd expect to find walking around here.

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What are we looking at? Well, absolutely, no.

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We have a house of 1581 with Victorian additions,

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um, in the middle of a housing estate.

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1581, I mean, that makes it, what, Tudor? Elizabethan?

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That must be one of the oldest houses around here. It is indeed.

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It's the oldest domestic building in Portsmouth. Wow. Yes.

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It's looking a bit sorry for itself. How long has it been empty for?

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It's been empty for about eight years. About eight years?!

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It was a youth hostel before that. Oh, I see.

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All right, let's go and have a look inside, shall we? Yes.

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There you are. Very grand.

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What do we have here, then?

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Well, this, we think, is the original front door to the house.

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That's a significant front door, isn't it?!

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It's a fairly heavy-duty door, yes.

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So, first of all, tell me about the trust.

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We were founded in January this year.

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Our sole focus is Wymering Manor, to conserve what we have here

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and bring it back into sustainable use.

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But how concerned were you when you first saw this?

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I mean, it can't be that far from being unsaveable.

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I'm actually more concerned now than I was

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when I walked in through the front door. Oh, really?

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Our first impressions were, "It's not too bad, it's OK." But the more

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we discover about it, the more difficult the challenge is.

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Structurally, we have the problem in the beam where the house has moved.

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The 18th century saw a lot of work done where the house was

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refaced in brick

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and the knock-on effect of putting the skin of brick on has been

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that it's created the perfect environment for deathwatch beetle,

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which has thrived in this house.

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Oh, really? So, deathwatch beetle eats into woodwork, is that right?

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It eats the heartwood of the oak frame.

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And this building is an oak-framed building.

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It is, yes, what's left of it!

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Now, it's been empty for seven or eight years. Yes.

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That comes with the slight caveat in that there's supposed to be

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a little bit of a presence here.

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Yes, we are quite well known for the supernatural presence that's here.

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What are the supposed occurrences here?

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There's a nun up in the roof, apparently.

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There's a choir of nuns that's alleged to

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walk across the grand hall at midnight.

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And have you had any personal experience

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with any of these apparitions?

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I've not, personally. Right.

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I've not, but there are many who claim to have done so.

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Ghosts aside, what are the plans for humans?

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How would this space be used down here?

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Well, we're very keen to bring the community into the house.

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I think that's going to be the primary use for the downstairs.

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Uh, we're looking at education, perhaps training

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and general community uses.

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What difference would it make for the area then

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if this can be a community space? I hope it'll reinvigorate the area.

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The area needs money spending on it, it needs the provision

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of facilities and if we can start here, hopefully more will follow.

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Plans for the upper levels of the manor are still in the early

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stages of development, but the hope is they'll eventually be

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turned into flats that will fund the renovation.

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It's a bit of a rabbit warren up here, isn't it?

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It certainly is, very easy to get lost in.

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So, how would you use this space?

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This is totally different to the big open rooms downstairs.

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I think some sort of residential accommodation up here would be ideal.

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Yeah, has it served that purpose in the past?

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I can see sort of en suite things...

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It has indeed, it's been the caretaker's flat.

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So, what is the projected cost of this project?

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I mean, there's a lot of work to do.

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I'd say we're looking at, at least 2 million, possibly 3,

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maybe even more. Wow. Yes.

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Forget the hauntings, that would turn you white as a sheet

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those kind of figures!

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Um, that's a HUGE amount of money.

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Is that going to be raised through grants or...?

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Where is that kind of money going to come from?

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We're principally looking at grants. It is an incredibly complex project.

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I can see why so many other people were scared off,

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but if anyone's going to make it work, it's the Wymering Manor Trust,

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so I really do wish you the best of luck with it. Thank you.

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You're very kind.

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I suppose, over time,

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this grand old manor house has been somewhat marooned,

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its land gradually sold off around it until, for the last seven

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or eight years, it's just been sat here, empty and forgotten.

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But it can't be allowed to rot and disintegrate,

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it needs to be saved and that's what the trust is all about -

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preserving the building and celebrating its heritage.

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And it's not just about the building.

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The fact is, this is going to be a community space, which is

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so important because it means finally the Manor House

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will once again relate back to the local area.

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I'm with the Kellys in Herefordshire.

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They're renovating an empty Victorian cottage so sister Clare

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can have a home near her family. I'm going to introduce them

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to a couple who've done something very similar.

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Right, here we are. This is the place we want you to see.

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First impressions?

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Similar in size. It looks bigger. It is a little bit bigger.

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Possibly a bit bigger, yeah.

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It's been taken on by Tim and Susan and they've made it into a very

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sort of workable living space, so, shall we go and say hello?

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Yeah, absolutely. That's a good idea. Great.

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When Tim and Susan Organ found this cottage nestled in the heart of

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the Brecon Beacons, they knew they could create a very special home.

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We'd been living in France for ten years

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and we decided that we'd like to move back to the UK -

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grandchildren are arriving and we'd be closer to the family.

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And this is the area that I personally have always wanted to live

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in, because of my childhood and the lovely times I used to spend here.

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I suppose it was a bit of a dream.

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And here we are.

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When Tim discovered the cottage, it had been empty for the best

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part of a year and was in need of complete renovation.

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The building here was used in conjunction with the house

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next door as the place where their guests would stay,

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but it had minimal, um, sanitary fittings, um,

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it didn't have a kitchen, um,

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it wasn't a home in itself.

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The entire renovation cost ?100,000 and has taken five years to

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create a stunning cottage with a contemporary extension that's

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doubled the size of their home.

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Our approach was always that the little cottage should be

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the anchor of the site, it should be, in effect,

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the dominant element in the composition of the buildings here.

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Like the Kellys, Tim and Susan also got their family on board to help.

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We're lucky because, of course, Sam is very practical -

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he's the youngest one -

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and he did quite a bit of the work here.

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And then my eldest son, Charlie, um,

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he came and built the, er, the new bit.

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The build process has never been difficult, it's been great fun.

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It's everything about it.

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The light, especially the light, I think.

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Tim's passionate about bringing light into buildings.

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This room provides sunshine all day.

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We see it rise in the morning over the top of the Brecon Beacons

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and we see it go down over the hills of the west.

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So, we're very lucky in connecting with

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the landscape all day.

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I'm hoping Tim and Susan's home will show the Kellys what can be

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achieved with a small space.

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Lovely to be here and thank you for having us in.

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It is quite a small cottage. Tell me about it.

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What have you done to it since you took it on,

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how have you made it suitable for your needs?

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Well, the important thing is to maximise the use of every

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square inch and, uh,

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it's what I call caravan architecture, where you actually

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squeeze in everything that's important to you in one space.

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Does it encourage you that actually this size can be made to

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feel pretty spacious, actually, pretty light. It does, yeah.

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It's very similar in size

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and it's quite nice to see, it feels quite spacious compared to...

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You go into the cottage at the moment...

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But I think it's the light

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and that's what I think has been done so well here,

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which we're going to have to be quite careful with, I think,

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is making sure we get enough light into the house. Yeah.

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You can use top light as we did here at the top of the stairs, so that

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acts as a south light, it penetrates down to the kitchen, even.

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But that's a good point, cos it's double-storey in that

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little sort of well there, OK.

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Well, as you say, it is lovely and light in here.

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Shall we see a bit more? Yeah.

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They've cleverly married period features with contemporary design,

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but it took time to get the balance right.

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What were your biggest challenges here?

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Patience.

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Patience! Patience and planning - the Ps. Yeah.

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Patience overall, you know, as they say, doing it, um, the right way.

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I mean, we did do one or two things twice.

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Is there any advice you could give these guys to stop them

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doing something twice?

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You know, give yourself a break every now and again

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so you can come back to it anew.

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Uh, you can immerse yourself in it to such an extent that it becomes

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a burden and it should never be that, I mean,

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if you've got the enthusiasm and you make the time.

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That sounds like very important advice.

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Take a step back and maybe, Clare, that can be your role

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from afar to be reminding your brother to take a day off.

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Yeah, I think Dan sometimes does need to be told to just sort of,

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like, stop, take a step back. You know?

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Because he does get involved and gives 100 percent

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and he gets completely, sort of,

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engrossed in what he is doing and, you know,

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sometimes you just need to take a step back.

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Well, guys, thank you so much for showing us round. Yes, thank you.

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It really is quite a unique place and it's been lovely to see

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it today and thank you very much for your time, yeah.

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Brilliant, thanks very much. Thanks very much.

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I loved Tim and Susan's calm and stress-free approach to renovation

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and I hope today has given the Kelly family some food for thought.

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Has today been useful?

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I mean, seeing a cottage of similar size

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and seeing how it's been transformed?

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Walking into their kitchen-dining area today and having the light

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and sort of clean lines and finish,

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it just gives me a little bit of hope that we can achieve that.

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And, finally, I think, you've done it before, you've been there,

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you've done renovation programmes,

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but it doesn't hurt to have someone saying,

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"Step back every now and again, take a little bit of time to yourself."

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No, I think that advice is good advice.

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There were times where the mistakes I made in my place was

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because I was tired and it was a case of just,

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"I need to finish this."

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Where as it would have been better just to take a couple of days off

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and just, you know, just sit back and relax and just think, "It will

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"be better done next week," rather than making sure it's done today.

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Well, guys, you're clearly on the same hymn sheet.

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You make a great team as a family, you know

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what to expect from each other and you have two wonderful and actually

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very unique properties, so I really do wish you the best of luck.

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Thank you. Thanks. I hope it goes well.

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Every empty property presents a different challenge

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when the decision is taken to restore it,

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and yet they all require drive, determination, ambition

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and teamwork, and that's what I think this family has in abundance.

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It is going to be difficult, but I'm sure, before long, they will

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together create the perfect little country cottage for Clare.

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