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Across the country, empty properties that could be homes are just

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waiting to be brought back into use.

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I'll be finding out why,

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and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself.

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Along the way, I'll be doing some digging of my own to find out

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more about our housing stock, our heritage and why

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we should be both reinventing and preserving Britain's empty homes.

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On today's show, a young couple who, with the help of parents,

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have taken on an abandoned cottage in the Lake District that they

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hope to turn into their first home. Plan is to open up into a big space.

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The whole of the downstairs? Yeah.

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A regeneration project in the Northeast dedicated to

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reviving forgotten buildings from our industrial heritage.

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1913 it was built, is that right? Yes. It's the centenary this year.

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This year? Quite a special time to bring it back to life.

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And one of Britain's empty property officers, on a mission to

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bring Birmingham's abandoned buildings back into use.

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Pieces of the...

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As you can see which has nearly fallen on top of me, parts of the

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porch are actually still falling off so that's really dangerous still.

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Luke Antin and his girlfriend Elizabeth had long aspired

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to buy a home in the beautiful

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Cumbria countryside. We like the area

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because we can go into the Lake District.

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We can do climbing and sailing

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and walking. We like the fact that it's open space.

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Around here, everything is hundreds and hundreds of thousands,

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going up into the millions which is just not possible for us.

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So, when Luke's dad John, a joiner by trade, suggested

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he help them financially, Luke and Elizabeth jumped at the chance

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and immediately decided they would search for an abandoned

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building they could bring back to life.

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I told Luke the best way to get on the property ladder would be

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to buy a property in need of modernisation.

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Elizabeth found this place.

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The trio snapped up this deserted three-bedroom semi-detached

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house at auction for ?96,500.

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Without my dad, we couldn't have possibly done this

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because the house is unmortgageable in its current state.

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The first impression of this house is that it's falling down

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and it's very scary.

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It's not something I would normally go anywhere near, but I have

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been assured that it will remain standing and it will turn out OK.

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That is until I start doing work on it. This is true.

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While Elizabeth will stay in her current home with her young

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daughter, Luke plans to take on the lion's

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share of the work in a bid to keep renovation costs down.

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I have helped my dad on occasions, shifting rubble, mixing cement

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but I've never done any plastering or brickwork.

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I will be looking to him to teach me how to do some of these jobs.

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So, with very little experience Luke is

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completely reliant on his dad's skills, which will be essential

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if they are to complete the overhaul themselves.

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I think my dad is really itching to get his hand stuck in

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and he's going to have to be here for quite a bit of it to

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pass on his skills and show me what I need to do.

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Luke is a novice renovator, and although his dad is not a full-time

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builder, Luke is still lucky he'll be there to guide the renovation.

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But working with family often brings its own set of issues.

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I think one of the challenges possibly will be me and my dad.

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We are very similar to each other. More than we possibly care to admit.

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To some degree, it's like having two South Poles trying to connect together.

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And I'm always right.

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LAUGHTER

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'This is all very new.

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'Luke and Elizabeth have only just signed the contract for the house

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'and they're rearing to go.'

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I'm Joe. How you doing? Nice to meet you.

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This is your place.

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Am I right in thinking your first place together? That's right.

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Our first one. How does that feel? Really exciting.

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THEY LAUGH

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Were you open-minded, Elizabeth?

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Were you open to anything you saw in terms of taking on quite

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a big project? I quite liked the idea of a house you could just move into.

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But that's miles out of our budget. Let's have a look inside.

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Luke and Elizabeth are yet to pin down any plans,

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but they'll need to be mindful, as they have a tight renovation budget

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of ?25,000, with Luke's dad estimating the cost closer to 40,000.

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Look at this. You've got some holes in your front room. Yeah.

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What's going on?

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These holes were put in to check the structure of the property.

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The surveyors have done this? Yeah.

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They were looking for subsidence in the walls

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because it's evident on this wall.

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They were trying to see if it extended anywhere else.

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This is a supporting wall for the whole building, is it, in the middle?

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At the moment, yeah. It's keeping the roof and the first floor up.

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It's quite vital. So what is the plan?

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This is clearly a sitting room. The main living space.

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Tell me how the house is laid out and what you want to do with it.

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The plan is to open up into a big space.

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The whole of the downstairs? Yeah.

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How does that suit the way you want to live? You've got a young girl.

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Do you like that feel where the children are around you

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and you can always see what she's doing? Yes.

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Very important to know where she is.

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I suppose that's a big challenge if you're going to take out a wall,

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and this wall is the main supporting wall in the middle of the house.

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We're talking big structural work. Yup.

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No, we don't reckon that it will be, actually. Yeah, time will tell. OK.

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If you're going to take it out, you need to put something else in there.

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Steel joists, that kind of stuff. Yeah.

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Am I right in thinking your dad can't be here all the time? He's got a business to run.

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That's right. So you guys will be the ones who are always here.

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Is that fair? Yeah. That's a responsibility.

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He's already told me that I'm going to be building the support

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pillars for the steel beams so that's quite a vital point.

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If it falls down, it's his fault.

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Where are you guys going to be living when this is going on?

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I'm going to be camping outside.

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And then try and get some of it into a liveable state, and move in

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and slum it really. I see. You're going to be here.

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Are you prepared for that? It's all very well on a lovely sunny day.

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That's not always how it is, is it? No. It's fine.

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As long as we're not going to get minus 30 degree snowstorms,

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I'll live.

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Well, let's see a bit more of the house.

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'This house had been abandoned for quite some time

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'before Luke and Elizabeth snapped it up.

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'As a result, the three bedrooms upstairs and the bathroom

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'are in desperate need of some serious work.

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'Back downstairs, there are the remnants of a tiny kitchen,

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'but outside reveals the real jewel in the crown of this property.'

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So out in the garden, it's absolutely lovely.

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This was one of the main attractions for the property. Yup.

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For my little girl. How important is it to have this space? Really important.

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Somewhere for her to run around.

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What kind of things concern you at this point? It's all ahead of you.

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What do you know? What don't you know? It's quite early on.

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We're undecided on quite a bit of it. But we are kind of...

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We've got lots of ideas.

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We haven't decided which ones we want.

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So everything is at a fluid stage.

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You've got the keys, and you know you've got to sort out the structure

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but after that, who knows?

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I think what will be useful is to see another property in this area.

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One that's been fully renovated.

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I think there will be a lot of inspiration there.

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It'll also be good to meet the people behind it.

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They've been through the renovation. It's your first renovation. I know you've got your dad's help

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but it would be great to get some practical advice, tips,

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any things they wouldn't do again to help guide you on your way.

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Hopefully that could be useful for the stage you're at now.

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How does that sound? Yup, sounds good. Sounds very good. Excellent.

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I think it's going to be a lovely first family home for Luke and Elizabeth.

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They've got their head round the big problems here,

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the structural issues.

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But I don't think, because it's so early in the project, they've got to grips with some of the details.

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The little things that will make this from just another

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renovation project into their perfect home.

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It will be good for them to see another property that IS

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fully finished, they can take some inspiration from that.

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But also there'll be some good help and advice to get them started.

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Across the UK, there are many abandoned buildings like

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Luke and Elizabeth's that could be restored to use.

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With some imagination, the results can be surprising,

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as architect Elspeth Beard has proved.

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She was in the market for an unusual building in Surrey that she

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could breathe life into and turn into her home.

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I was looking to buy a property that hadn't been originally

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designed as a house.

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I wanted somewhere where I could convert and

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design the internal spaces as I wanted to.

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A friend of mine saw this and he told me about it.

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The minute I saw it, I decided, literally,

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straight away that I wanted it.

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It's just such a beautiful building, and in the fact that inside was just

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a huge empty space I could do whatever I wanted to with.

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So Elspeth bravely paid ?121,000 for it at auction.

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The tower, built in 1898, reaches 130 feet high,

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and had supplied water to the local villages for 70 years.

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In the mid-19th century, these water towers were a focal point of UK

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towns and cities, but now many are disused and abandoned.

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It had been empty for 20 years when I bought it.

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It was full of pigeons and doves.

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I spent six months shovelling out the bird poo.

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I managed to get an entire skipload.

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And that was just the beginning.

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Elspeth spent a year securing planning permission to turn

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the tower into a home.

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Ironically, one of her biggest jobs was making the six-level

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water tower waterproof.

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We spent nine months doing all the brickwork repairs,

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64 new windows, a new roof, put in the lantern light on the top floor.

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So after three years, I basically had a waterproof shell and

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the planning and listed building consent.

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Elspeth went on to spend a further four years

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and ?220,000 on the renovation.

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When I moved to the tower, it was very much still a building site.

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It didn't have a kitchen, a bath or a toilet.

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For the first three or four years, I managed to keep my spirits up.

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When I got into year four, five and six, I'd had enough of it.

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But despite these trying times, Elspeth has created a unique

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and totally bespoke home.

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What I love about the building is, once you enter the front door,

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I feel as if I'm in my own space.

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Everything in this building was designed by me

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and a lot of it was built by me.

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I just wanted to have one large room on each floor

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and I didn't want any rooms within rooms, which is why,

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in the bedrooms, the bathrooms are open to the main bedroom space.

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There are a lot of stairs in the building.

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It's 89 stairs to my kitchen, 116 to my living room

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and 141 to the roof terrace.

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For Elspeth, creating an amazing home from this historic water tower

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wasn't her only motivation.

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Somebody needed to save this building for the future

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so I was very pleased I was able to do that.

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The project may have dominated her life

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and bank balance for seven years,

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but having seen the renovation through, Elspeth has no regrets.

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It was definitely worth it. I love living here. It's a great building,

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it's a great space. And I certainly worked for it.

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And I feel I've certainly earned it.

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Restoring Britain's forgotten working buildings

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and turning them into housing stock is undoubtedly rewarding

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and also helps keep our industrial past alive.

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Britain's role as the workshop of the world

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and the pioneer of the Industrial Revolution has left its own

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legacy in terms of property here in the UK.

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Thousands of mills, factories and old mine

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buildings lie dotted around the country,

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often empty and forgotten.

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That is particularly the case here in the Northeast, which was once

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the heartlands of our coal industry.

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'I'm at the abandoned Bowes Railway site near Newcastle.

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'Built in 1825, it was once a thriving industrial hub.

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'But since its closure in 1979, it's fallen into disrepair

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'and its buildings have been declared at risk due to vandalism.

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'Leading the campaign to change its fortunes is

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'Martin Holst from the Tyne and Wear Building Preservation Trust.'

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How are you doing? I'm Joe.

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A very intriguing backdrop here.

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Tell me about the history of the site. This is Bowes Railway.

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It was a rope-hauled railway system which moved

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coal from coalfields to Jarrow. What do we mean by rope-hauled?

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So, the majority of the movement of the trucks was done by ropes

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pulling trucks. Where does the power for this come from?

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There would've been a number of static engines along the line,

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and gravity, because of the inclines, they could use gravity to move.

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So the idea was to link the coal mines here with the river and the transport.

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How long would this rope-hauled railway have been at its height?

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The system was about 15 miles. There's about three miles of that track left.

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How important is it now that we remember this?

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This is a scheduled monument, so it's of national significance

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because of the track, the buildings and the trucks.

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There is so much surviving fabric. Tell me about your trust.

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It's not so much about railways, it's specifically about buildings

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and bringing them back into good use.

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We run across Tyne and Wear, and we're looking for buildings

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of historical interest that we can bring back into use.

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And you've seen something here you think can do just that?

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Yes, I've been working here for a number of years

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and it's got potential.

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Fantastic. Let's go and take a look.

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Black Fell House was one of the essential engine rooms on this

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railway, used to power the rope system that pulled the coal

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trucks along. Now the preservation trust want it to be someone's home.

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But it's a long way from that point.

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The driver would have been in the door there

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looking down the incline, controlling the engine.

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It looks very well built. Can this be used? It's still standing now.

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It's extremely solid. The machinery is very heavy.

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OK. Shall we try and have a look in?

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So it's been attracting a bit of attention, has it?

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Yeah, the building's been empty for 20 years. You come to expect it.

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They've been climbing through here, stealing parts of the machinery.

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The metal. They've wrecked the machinery. So what is the plan?

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It's a big building, it's a good space. What can you do with this?

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The idea is for a live-work unit.

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So we'd put a pod up in the roof for someone to live.

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Probably an artist or a carpenter or joiner.

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So they'd be able to live over their workshop.

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So it's definitely going ahead? You've got funding...?

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We've got ?200,000 of funding

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so far from the Andrew Lloyd Webber Foundation and English Heritage.

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That's most of the money that we'll need. 1913 it was built?

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It's the centenary this year.

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Quite a special time to bring it back to life.

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It seems fitting that you've managed to secure its future on the centenary.

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Yes. It should all click into place now.

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Fantastic. Best of luck with it. Thanks.

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I think what's happening here is a really good compromise.

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Sadly, some of the fabric inside the building has been lost over

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the years so you can't really preserve this as a museum piece.

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The next best thing is to find a way of celebrating its industrial past.

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And so to make this into a workshop or a studio is just perfect,

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and then to also have someone living here is ideal.

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It means the site will be secure, and that person can effectively

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act as a guardian to look after this building for many years to come.

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Sadly, not all of Britain's forgotten buildings are rescued

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and brought back to life.

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But local councils ARE taking action,

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and it's the job of empty property officers to track these

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buildings down and work on bringing them back into the community.

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In Birmingham, Matt Smith does just that, and he's on his way to

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a house that's been on his radar for six months.

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Since the owner died, his family have had trouble maintaining

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the house, and Matt has been responding to complaints.

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A few months ago, the front porch to the property collapsed

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and it was in a really dangerous condition.

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I contacted the homeowner to get a skip to the property, to start

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putting some of the dangerous debris into the skip.

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Having spoken to the neighbour,

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it seems that some of the dangerous work to the porch hasn't been done.

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It looks like we've got a car on the drive this time.

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I'm wondering whether there's somebody in.

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HE RATTLES LETTER BOX

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But the presence of the car is misleading.

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The porch is full of unopened post, which suggests there is no-one home.

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Disappointed really because I asked him to do...

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There is a porch here that was part of the garage that was totally

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falling down. He's done part of the work.

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We've got potentially really dangerous wires...

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I'm not going to touch them to see

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whether they are live, but there is always the potential that they are.

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Totally dangerous pieces of glass, which aren't very safe,

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and pieces of the...

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As you can see, which has nearly fallen on top of me.

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Parts of the porch are still falling off so that's really dangerous still.

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It's just one of these things with empty houses,

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you never know what you're going to find when you're there.

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Like many streets with empty properties,

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it's often the neighbours who bear the burden of

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an unsightly building and the antisocial behaviour it attracts.

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So Matt wants to check in with them to give them an update.

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Hello there. Matthew Smith from Birmingham City Council Empty Property Team.

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It's about the empty house across the way.

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Have you seen anybody working on the house recently?

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I saw him probably about two weeks ago. OK.

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He was mainly clearing out the garage and everything.

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Have you got kids? I haven't got any young kids.

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The next-door neighbour's got young kids,

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there's young kids over the road.

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Just if you can talk to the neighbours in terms of the safety element

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and make sure that they don't visit -

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with the glass,

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who knows what they're treading on!

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Thanks very much for your time, and obviously any problems

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give me a shout.

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Will do. Cheers.

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Before Matt wraps up at the house, he puts in a call to the

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owner, to inform him of the work that still needs to be carried out.

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Slightly concerned that there's dangerous elements to the porch.

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There's jagged pieces of wood and nails hanging down.

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You need to ensure this work is done.

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OK, so I've spoken to the owner.

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I'm going to write to him formally now, asking him

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to do certain safety work to the porch again.

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Cut down the garden, try and make the place look a bit more presentable.

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At least we've got to speak with the neighbours

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and speak to the owner, and things look like they should move forward now.

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If you've noticed abandoned properties in your area

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and fancy the challenge of taking one on,

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contact local estate agents, neighbourhood watch groups and

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local shop owners and traders, and see if they have any information.

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Or get in touch with your local empty property officer.

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'Back in the Lake District, I'm with Luke and Elizabeth who,

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'with the help of Luke's dad,

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'have taken on an abandoned house they can turn into a family home.

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'They're at the very beginning of the project, with plans

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'still up in the air, so they've lots of questions.

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'I'm going to introduce them to a couple who've done something

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'very similar.'

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Here we are. This is the place I want you to see.

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The reason I brought you here is it used to be in a similar state

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to yours. It had structural problems,

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it needed a complete overhaul, and this is what they've come up with.

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Hopefully, they'll be able to show us around and there'll be some advice.

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Shall we say hello? Yeah. Come on.

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Like Luke and Elizabeth, Stephen

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and Marguerite loved the beauty of the Lake District and were desperate

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to get on the property ladder here by restoring a local building.

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We'd always fancied having a property up here but they are so expensive

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in the Lake District, so we had to find something we could renovate.

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It was a bit strange because we'd got here, and it was literally

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falling to bits. We'd look through the windows and I think that was it.

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It was love at first sight, wasn't it? Yeah.

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But once they became the proud owners of the 100-year-old cottage,

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the enormity of the project crept up on them.

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When we first bought it

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I remember we went to a little bar down the road and sat in it and thought, "What have we done?!"

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We were both very quiet, which is unusual, and

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we looked at each other and I said, "I don't think I can do this."

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But we managed to get through that after the initial panic.

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The house had only been empty for four months

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when they bought it for ?280,000.

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But it had been left completely exposed to the elements

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and was declared uninhabitable by the local council.

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There was a lot of damp all through the house.

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And there was no central heating. All the electrics needed changing.

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We basically had to gut it. We decided to turn it upside down.

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Because of where it is in the Lake District, you get the views upstairs

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in this house, and so we thought to have the living area upstairs

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and move the bedrooms downstairs.

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Stephen and Marguerite clearly planned out this renovation

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with great care, and now they're reaping the rewards.

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When we walk through the door after a week at work, it's just

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a feeling of... We're completely chilled.

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And that's a big thing for us.

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'I'm in no doubt that this beautiful cottage will not only inspire

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'Luke and Elizabeth,

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'but will also focus their minds on the reality of what's ahead.'

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What do you think? We're straight into the sitting room.

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Yeah, it's very, very nice.

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You were talking about liking a modern look and feel.

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Yeah, definitely. Is this what you were meaning?

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Yeah. Lots of light spaces as well.

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Gorgeous. Well, look - start us at the beginning.

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When you took on this project, what condition was this building in?

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The walls were up but that was about it. The roofs were coming down. It was a real mess.

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How long did it take you to do it? Well, we bought it in October 2010.

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It took us till May the following year before we started work on it.

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So in the end, from getting the keys to starting work,

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you had seven months of planning. I know that wasn't always your choice,

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but you made good use of that time.

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It was good because it gave Marguerite the time for all

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the design flair to come in and decide exactly what you want to do.

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You need to think about things.

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To play devil's advocate, these guys want to get going.

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They want to knock down the wall.

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Surely they can plan the rest of it later. What do you say to that?

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Plan, plan, plan and plan. Yeah.

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Think it through. Cos one day you might think it's a fabulous idea

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and the next, you think, "That was really stupid."

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I think we're going to get our notebook out, cos both of us

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keep notebooks about everything else but we haven't started one, have we?

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No, not for the house. One of the biggest things about it is, enjoy it while you're doing it.

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Yeah. Just have fun. Don't put yourself under time constraints.

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That's just giving yourself another stress that you don't need.

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OK. Loads of advice there. Plan, plan, plan. Don't put yourself under time

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constraints...despite your Christmas deadline. LAUGHTER

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It's a target, not a deadline.

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Well, this is lovely. Let's go and see a bit more.

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Lead the way.

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'It's clear Stephen and Marguerite's planning efforts have paid off,

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'and they've designed this three-bedroom cottage to match their needs and surroundings.'

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This is very interesting.

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You've got your dining room here, and then stairs

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and kitchen on the other side.

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Is that how it was originally laid out? No.

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This was a bedroom, and that was a bedroom as well.

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Because we've got the views from the upstairs of the property,

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we thought this needed to be the living area

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so we've flipped the whole thing upside down.

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In terms of the budget and how much this cost, just give us

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a sense of what you thought it would cost and what it ended up costing.

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It was about on budget. Yeah.

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We'd planned to spend about 100,000 altogether including

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the extension and that sort of thing, and it came in around that.

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What are your top tips for trying to stretch a budget?

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I think probably weigh things up, really.

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The internet as well. Yeah.

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And when you say weighing things up, you mean prioritising -

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what you really must have and what's a luxury.

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Also mix-matching, with expensive stuff and things that aren't.

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If you were to start over again, what is it that you would change?

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I don't think there is, is there?

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I guess that is the biggest testament to planning, then -

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if you come through this and think, "We've got it all."

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It's really inspiring the way you've moved the house round to

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fit your needs, and you've got such a great result and some lovely advice.

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We'll take planning away from this. Thank you very much for your time.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Cheers.

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Having had a good look round and heard lots of advice, how are you feeling?

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What are you going to take away from today? Planning.

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Yeah, take planning a bit more seriously, and as we're going about

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just pick up anything we like the look of, and try and see how we could work it into our house.

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And looking forward, you've got everything ahead of you. Are you excited?

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Definitely. Yeah. Give us a hammer!

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Well, guys, you have a wonderful property. It's in a gorgeous location.

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It's going to make the perfect first family home for you.

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So I really do wish you the best of luck -

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keep planning, work hard - and I'm sure you'll be there very soon. BOTH: Thank you.

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I think today's been really useful for Luke and Elizabeth.

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Sometimes, when you're a first-time renovator

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the instinct is just to get stuck in, knock walls down

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but actually, it really pays to stand back and make sure you've got

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a proper plan, and that's the advice I think they've taken on board from today.

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Yes, by all means keep that energy - but also have a really complete vision for the home.

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And if they do that,

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I'm sure they'll have their dream place in no time at all.

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