Sam and Helen Scharf Britain's Empty Homes


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Across the country empty properties that could be homes are just waiting

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to be brought back into use.

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I'll be finding out why

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and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself.

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And along the way I'll be doing some digging of my own to find out

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more about our housing stock, our heritage

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and why we should be both reinventing and preserving

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Britain's empty homes.

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Empty properties left in a state of disrepair can blight

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an otherwise picturesque street. But for people with vision

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and ambition, these abandoned buildings have enormous potential.

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Plus, buying an empty shell can be

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a way into an area you might otherwise not be able to afford.

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On today's show...

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an adventurous couple who've started their married life by buying

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a rundown house they hope to turn into their dream family home.

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You're kind of feature-rich in here.

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Yeah. It's all intact. At the moment it's just about all intact.

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A regeneration project dedicated to reviving one of London's most

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historic buildings.

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After that long period of time, 50 years,

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where they weren't occupied by tenants,

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it's great to have them lived in again.

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And one of Britain's Empty Property Officers

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is on the case of bringing abandoned buildings back into use.

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It's improved the building 100%, hasn't it, really?

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It's perfect. It's exactly what we wanted.

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Newlyweds Samuel and Helen Scharf had long hoped of moving up

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the property ladder and thought their best chance of buying

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a detached house in an area they loved was to rescue

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an abandoned building they could turn into their dream home.

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We had our heart set on Histon because it's a lovely village.

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It's close to Cambridge for our work

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and we had tried to move here,

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tried to bid for a few houses, but unfortunately weren't successful.

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So we kept looking and finally managed to find somewhere

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that we could afford and we could do what we wanted to it.

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The house was in such a decrepit state that during the nine months

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it took the owners to sell it, it was classified as uninhabitable.

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It needed a lot of work, but that, we felt, gave us an opportunity

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to at least actually move here.

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When we first saw the house it was in a really sorry state.

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Unfortunately there was quite a lot of mess and dirt everywhere.

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It wasn't really liveable.

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As well as the mess, the house had no water or heating when Samuel

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and Helen took a leap of faith

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and bought it for just over ?317,000.

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The plan is to keep the current house in its old state, 1930s style,

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and at the same time we're looking to build a two-storey modern

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extension out the back to give that sort of contrast.

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The couple are brimming with ideas, and even though they don't

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have children yet they are both keen to get the house family ready.

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We have space for a family room, and in my eyes I see kids' toys

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and lots of storage and maybe the piano.

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And Sam sees this really hi-tech centre.

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He calls it the Hub, the Learning Zone.

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My ideas are to have interactive whiteboards,

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to have everything you would dream of

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maybe within a small school in one room.

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Well, hopefully they can agree on a family room

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because builders start work on the house in just two weeks.

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I'm keen to see for myself just what they've taken on

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and hopefully help them with their next step in the process.

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So this is your place. How long have you had it?

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We've had it eight months now.

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It's got this lovely light brick, quite typical of the Cambridge area.

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That is what attracted us to the house, really.

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The design and the features of the two bricks and the contrast.

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Very nice. Shall we go in and have a look? Yep. Great.

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Samuel and Helen have a healthy renovation budget of ?155,000

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and they've already stripped back the interiors to reveal some

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original 1930s features.

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Right, this is lovely, isn't it?

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So, front room, and immediately my eyes are drawn to features.

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You're kind of feature-rich in here. Yes. Feature-rich. It's all intact.

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At the moment it's just about all intact.

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What happens next?

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What do you want this to be and how are you going to lay it out?

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This is going to stay virtually exactly as it is once we've

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done it up, and keep it as a front room, a traditional front room.

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So we are not knocking through this wall at all,

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but there is another room that's a similar size that we are going

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to make into a family room.

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I'm quite keen to make it an open study, learning area. OK.

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For myself, Helen and the future family.

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Helen, is that very much Sam's dream, the e-learning zone?

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I was originally thinking of a more traditional family room,

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so, more somewhere...

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A playroom, I suppose, with a piano, where the kids

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could play with their toys. That kind of thing.

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Let's come back to why you chose the house.

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That's what you're looking for, something of this size. That's it.

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This was kind of a really good way of getting the size of the house,

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a good-sized garden, that we wanted for the budget that we could afford.

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So you really appreciate the benefit of an empty property

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as a way into this neighbourhood.

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It was the only way we could get into this neighbourhood. Fantastic.

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Let's see some more, shall we?

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Samuel and Helen are novice renovators and they both need to

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be clear what they want from a house and what their vision is.

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Here we are at the back of the house. Nice light coming in.

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What's the plan? What are you going to do back here?

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We are going to knock all of this out

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and build our new kitchen-diner out into the garden.

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Oh, right.

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Now, what happens with the kitchen?

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Is it going to snake around in an L-shape to that room?

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We are keeping the kitchen and diner to this area, the new build.

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And it's actually a slightly tricky space.

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We're not really sure what we're doing with it.

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It's the access to the kitchen from the front of the house,

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but we're not sure whether to use it as storage

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or whether to have a downstairs toilet there,

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and exactly where to have that, so it's a bit up in the air.

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So what style is the new extension going to be in?

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We've decided to keep it quite modern at the back.

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You can really see it's an extension. We're not trying to hide anything.

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We're honest with it.

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And we really like the modern style contrasting with the 1930s.

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I think you're right. Houses are books written in many chapters.

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It doesn't all have to be when it was first published.

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You can add chapters later and show that it's a later edition.

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I'm sure you'll get something to your taste.

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Upstairs the house already boasts three bedrooms with another one

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to be added as part of the extension.

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And in the back garden the potential is evident.

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Guys, when you come out here you can really see what a garden you've got.

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It's huge!

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We're really lucky, and that was part of the draw for buying this house.

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But it was funny because we didn't actually know how big it was

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when we first got here

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because it was overgrown with bramble all the way up here.

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So we had no idea how far it went.

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You looked on Google Earth to try and work out exactly what size it was.

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Looking ahead, it's a big project.

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It's going to be a very hectic six months ahead.

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You're both working full-time as well as doing this.

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What are your concerns about the project?

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It's really hard when you haven't lived somewhere first, to know

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how you're going to use the space.

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We're trying to think ahead, planning a family and those kinds

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of things and how you're going to use the house with children there and...

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Yeah. It's really hard to know

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exactly what we want to do with each room, really.

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There's a few unknowns.

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You're planning for a family you don't have yet.

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You're building a new space and how do you fill it.

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It's going to be really useful for you to meet a couple

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who've been through this and done a complete renovation, including extending the house.

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So plenty to look out for, lots of inspiration.

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It's also a really good chance to get some last-minute advice

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before your builders roll in. Fantastic. Does that sound good?

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Sounds good, yeah. Yeah. Great.

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This is a fantastic place, but a very daunting project.

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The builders are arriving in just under two weeks

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and yet there are still quite a few unknowns.

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Plans aren't completely finished and, on top of that, how do you

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make the best use of space in an extension you can't yet visualise,

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and how do you plan a family home when you haven't yet got a family?

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Many, many questions. It's going to be really good for them

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to meet a couple who've done this.

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They have extended their home, they have got a family and, hopefully,

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they can answer some questions and give some really top-notch advice.

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Bringing Britain's abandoned housing stock back into use isn't

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just about gaining a foot on the property ladder.

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It's also about keeping history alive.

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Britain has some tremendous stately homes and historic residences,

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and yet often overlooked are some smaller buildings tucked

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away in their grounds.

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But if those places are carefully managed

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they can bring some unexpected benefits to the site as a whole.

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I'm in south-west London to meet Sian from the Fulham Palace Trust.

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She's involved in restoring the palace

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so we can all enjoy its beauty,

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and to do that the Trust has to come up with a clever way

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of generating money, by renovating

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and renting out two smaller,

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dilapidated buildings in one of the capital's most historic sites.

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Sian, tell me about the history of Fulham Palace.

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The site first came into record in 704,

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when the Bishop of London bought it from the Bishop of Hereford.

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And we don't think the Bishop lived here for another 500 years.

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But after that it was continuously occupied until 1973,

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when the last bishop left.

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It's hard to believe now,

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with the planes queueing up for Heathrow,

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and the built-up roundabout, that this was once in the countryside.

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At that time, Fulham was countryside.

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A lovely rural retreat outside London.

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And what happens when the Bishop of London moved out?

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What happened from the '70s onwards?

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The local authority, Hammersmith and Fulham Council, took it over then

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and ran it for the next few years until 2011, when the Trust took over.

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What state were these buildings in from the '70s onwards?

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Were some of them sitting empty?

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From the period 1973 onwards, and probably

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before that as well, it's quite a big property for the Bishop to live in.

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It started to get derelict in places

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and remained like that for the first few years that the council ran it.

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It's now fully occupied, right?

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The upper floors of the building that were derelict

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are now occupied by office tenants.

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And there are a couple of properties that

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have only just been renovated?

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We've got two cottages at the entrance to the site

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which were restored last year.

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Fantastic. Can we have a look? Yeah.

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The palace has been open to the public

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since 2006 and is expensive to run and restore.

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So to help raise funds the Trust has recently renovated two other

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historic, but smaller, buildings on the site

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which are now home to some lucky tenants.

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Sian, tell me about the history of these two buildings.

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The pink lodge was built in 1815.

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It's called Gothic Lodge because of the style of architecture.

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And that was built when the Bishop started coming here by road

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rather than by river.

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So there needed to be somebody at the gate to let people in and out.

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And what about the other building here?

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The other building is Coachman's Lodge

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that would have been occupied by the coachman.

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So initially driving a horse and carriage

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and then later on driving the Bishop's car.

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How long have they been empty for?

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They haven't been used as residential accommodation for about 50 years,

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so they've been used as offices and for storage.

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So they were not in great condition internally or externally.

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So people are actually going to be living here?

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We've got tenants living in both of them now, yes.

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Wow! They moved in in August 2012.

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Quite an unusual place to live, isn't it?

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It is. It has its advantages.

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It's quiet and peaceful and of course very beautiful.

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How important is the money raised, then, from rent?

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The palace costs about ?1 million a year to run, and the rental income

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from these lodges and also the office tenants is about a third of that.

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So it's essential income for us.

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And how satisfying is it - these buildings are meant to be lived in -

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to see people here again?

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Well, after that long period of time, 50 years,

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where they weren't occupied by tenants,

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it's great to have them lived in again.

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Fantastic. Well, look, thank you very much was showing me around.

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What I really love about this project is not just that these

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buildings have been brought back to life,

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but that they now have purpose.

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They are lived in again as they were always intended to be,

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and the income generated in turn will help support this site

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and the Trust for many years to come.

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It's not just big organisations who are inspired to revive

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abandoned buildings.

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People right across the UK are taking on the challenge

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of bringing derelict dwellings back into use.

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Over in Derbyshire, trained architect Nigel Turner

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and his wife Amanda have done just that.

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They were in the market to buy a new home in or around Derby,

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but it turned out the ideal spot was closer than they'd realised.

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Well, I was pastor of a church round the corner from here,

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and we were living in tied accommodation with that job.

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And we started to think about whether we should buy a property.

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So, being crazy Christians, we thought, "Where would Jesus live?"

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And we thought he'd live in the worst part of town

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because that's the sort of person he is, or was, rather.

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So we thought, "That's where we should live."

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So we found this place.

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In fact, Nigel and Amanda took this sentiment literally

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and opted to buy a former stable.

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Dating back to 1870,

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the building was more recently used as a pair of lock-up garages, but it

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was located in a rundown area long viewed as a no-go zone by locals.

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Being an architect, I look at buildings a lot

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and I've got something inside me when I see a building,

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I always see opportunity when I look at a building.

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I never see something which is impossible. Anything can change.

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I was quite happy, quite excited. I like derelict buildings.

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I think it's really exciting to bring new life to dead things. So...

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The garages came with a price tag of ?20,000,

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but in reality there was a lot less there than they'd realised.

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It didn't have a roof and it didn't have any services.

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There was no water, no electricity, no gas.

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The windows were not really there. There wasn't a staircase.

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There was no proper external door. Yeah, it was four walls, really.

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Getting planning approval was a big step,

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because we had to get a change of use on the building.

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It didn't have any residential use.

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So that was a bit of a challenge,

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but when that came through that was very encouraging.

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Once they had planning permission in place,

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they set out on a renovation that would cost ?56,000

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and dominate their lives for the coming years.

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The builder was here for about six months,

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but then the actual project took two and a half years

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because the builder just did the main structural work, the shell,

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as it were, and then we took over

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and project managed all the interior trades.

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So we just took it nice and easy and did it at a leisurely pace.

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One of the things we worked really hard at

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when we were planning the house was to make every inch of space count,

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because it is such a small place.

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So, often, in a space like the landing under the stairs,

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they serve more than one function.

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There is storage, you can sit there and we try

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and make the most of the space that we've got.

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Having seen the renovation through, they've no regrets

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and enjoy the benefits of living in such a unique home.

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One of my favourite things about living here is

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the reaction of younger people, our sons'

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and daughters' friends as they come through the door.

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If they've not been before it's always, "Oh, wow!"

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For Nigel and Amanda, reviving this abandoned building

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and turning it into a modern family home has given them

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as much pleasure as they now get from living in it.

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To actually come and do this one was really exciting, to see it

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transformed and come alive again.

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As you look around, things can look really awful,

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but there are some really beautiful houses hiding under all

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the decay and dereliction, so it was nice to do something like that.

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But not all Britain's abandoned buildings are rescued and renovated.

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In the south-east alone there are over 30,000 vacant dwellings,

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and it's down to the Empty Property Officers to restore

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the fortunes of our forgotten homes.

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In Thanet, Kent, Andy Emmerson is visiting a building that's

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been a blight on the local neighbourhood for over three years.

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This property used to be a hotel,

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but unfortunately the building started

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to be used as a house in multiple occupation.

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The council were getting quite a lot of complaints about the level

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of accommodation and also issues in terms of the quality of living

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standards within the building.

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It's obviously attracted anti-social behaviour

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and the property became empty.

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The council bought the old hotel at auction in 2011

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and embarked on turning it back into its original state -

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two separate family homes, which the council will use for social housing.

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Andy's come to make sure the project is progressing

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and is up to the council's exacting standards.

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Pat. Andy. It's good to see you. And you.

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I kind of expected the scaffold to be down

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and the windows to be in, to be honest.

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That's the windows, unfortunately.

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It's taken longer to get the style of the timber window to the street.

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It's been quite difficult to get the UPVC windows to work.

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It's signed off and agreed now,

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but we are three weeks late on manufacture, unfortunately.

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But it's going to be worth it in the long run.

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Obviously, you had an awful lot of external works done to the front

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and the back. Shall we have a look how that's gone? It's incredible.

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Turning this place from one large residence with loads of small rooms

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into two good-sized family homes has been no mean feat,

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but this is a fantastic transformation.

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Bedroom. A nice big room. Yeah, it is.

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You've got skirting boards going on now, plasterboard.

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Again, we've still got the windows. No windows, yeah.

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Once we get the windows in place in a couple of weeks,

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we can drop the scaffold. That will enable us to put new services in.

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And we hope to be out in about nine weeks.

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We need to look at the extension, I think,

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because that's a long way behind schedule.

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Let's go and look in the garden. Excellent, thank you.

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Outside, the old three-storey extension

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has been completely demolished and the team

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is working on a less imposing and family friendly living space.

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Mind your head. It's a nice big garden. Yeah, nice aspect, isn't it?

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Yeah. Imagine it's going to have a nice slate roof

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to match the main roof. It's a massive difference.

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In spite of all the delays and everything, the windows

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and things, what is still left to do on the building?

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It's all about putting it all back together now.

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Finish doing the rendering, put the roof on the new extension,

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and it will be nice and watertight.

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It's improved the building 100%, hasn't it, really,

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to be honest? Considering what it was. Going back to two houses.

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It's perfect. It's exactly what we wanted.

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Andy is satisfied with the progress, but he's eager to find out

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how the project has affected the rest of the street.

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Now we are going to speak to one of the neighbours, who had an awful

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lot of problems when it was empty and derelict,

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to see what his opinion is of it now.

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Hi, Mr Turner. Hello, there. I'm Andy Emmerson, from Thanet Council.

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Yeah, obviously,

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I've come to see what you think about the property next door.

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It's nearing completion. I think it'll be quite nice.

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We've had unwelcome visitors there as well,

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people trying to break in, smashing windows and all that.

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And also they stole a gas meter and left the gas on. Really?

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And, for yourself, they had a big extension at the back.

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We took that down. Has that improved your outlook?

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It's much better for the light into the windows.

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The back of the house is much brighter than it was before.

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It makes it more pleasant. We don't use as much electricity. HE LAUGHS

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Thank you very much for your time. All right, thank you.

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Nice to meet you. And you. Bye.

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Well, I was very happy with that site visit.

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Obviously, we need to get the details right on the windows in order

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for it to fit in with the street scene much better.

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But hopefully by nine weeks we'll be having an opening ceremony.

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We'll be able to get families back in there and local residents

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will be invited so they can see what the project's been all about.

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If you wish to find an empty property,

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there are many ways to pick one up.

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Keep in regular contact with local estate agents and auctioneers.

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Try friends and families. They are often a great source of information.

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Or get in contact with your local Empty Property Officer.

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Back in the village of Histon, near Cambridge, I'm with Samuel

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and Helen Scharf, who've taken on an abandoned house

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and have lots of questions about how they can turn it into a family home.

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I'm going to introduce them

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to a couple who revived a similar building with surprising results.

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Right, guys, this is the place I want you to see.

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It's quite impressive. First impressions?

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Lovely. Really, really nice. Yeah.

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Can you tell from looking at it that it's been extended?

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From the side, yeah.

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You can get a sneaky peek of a very modern extension, which is

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really nice. What about the front?

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Other than just looking smart and tidy, it's not...

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A window and a door

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and two windows, that's how it originally was.

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They also extended out the sides. Oh, wow!

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All right, let's go and find out how they did it, shall we? Brilliant.

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OK, come on.

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Richard and Emma Fuller hadn't planned on taking on a house

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in need of so much work, but when they spotted this Victorian

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detached home online something about it captured their imagination.

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When we first saw the property,

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I couldn't believe the state it was in. It was really rundown.

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But we loved the feel of the space of the whole plot.

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But once they became the proud owners of the house,

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the enormity of the project became clear.

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It didn't have any central heating.

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All the electrics had to be redone

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because it was all old-fashioned wiring.

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Looking back, I don't think we really realised what a project

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we were taking on.

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It's only now when I tell people the story of taking the whole

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back of the house down brick by brick

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and people sort of look at me like I'm a bit crazy,

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that you look back and think, "Wow, that was quite a big deal."

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This labour of love for Richard and Emma has paid

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dividends as they now live in the house of their dreams.

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But a renovation of this size is rarely straightforward.

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I think the hardest part was trying to do so much of it ourselves

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and both of us working full-time.

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Knowing what we were doing, the project,

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the garden and the long-term vision, was what kept us going.

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I have to say, now that the house is built and we're living here,

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I absolutely love it.

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It's all been worthwhile. We high-five each other.

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"Look what we did. Look at this. We did this."

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Yeah, we do sometimes have a sad moment, don't we? Yeah.

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Richard and Emma's experience and enthusiasm will hopefully give

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the Scharfs a real insight into what they can hope to achieve.

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First up, a room Samuel in particular should find interesting.

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Tell me about this room.

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There's a few things in here I think will raise your eyebrows slightly.

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Tell me, Richard, what's the idea of the room?

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This is my man cave.

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I say my man cave, but this is probably the kids' favourite room.

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They like to come in here and put a film on on a Sunday afternoon.

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Very good. What do you make of it, guys?

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It's pretty much what I had laying in my head at the moment.

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It's got the technology, it's got the beanbags...

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LAUGHTER

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Can't go wrong. Absolutely not. It looks great.

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Let's see some more, shall we? After you.

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Emma and Richard turned this downtrodden Victorian house

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into a stunning home, complete with modern extension,

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five bedrooms and a spacious kitchen and family room.

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Is this the sort of thing you guys are thinking of

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when you say clean and modern and...? Absolutely.

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It's exactly what we were after.

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A really nice, modern, airy extension on the back of an old house.

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It's everything we have been trying to plan

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for the last few months, really.

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How do you get the vision right?

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It's all very well working with plans, but how do you

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kind of know when it's built it's all going to feel right?

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We just took our plans and tried to get inside them as much as possible.

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So we literally cut out sofas and tables and chairs and tried

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things in different spaces, to work out what felt right.

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Did you have any particularly tricky areas that you just couldn't

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quite work out or a space you weren't sure how to use?

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This area for me, I wanted it bigger,

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because it just feels a little bit narrow.

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And that's a compromise with... What's behind this wall, then?

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There's an enormous utility room, but that would have... Yeah...

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With three children and a dog, I wanted a big boot room,

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rather than a small utility room.

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Just thinking - boot room, children and dogs and things.

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You're planning on this family,

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you're not quite sure what you will need,

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but you have this slightly mystery space near your downstairs loo.

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I wonder if that's a way out to the garden there or a cloakroom

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or something like that. Possibly.

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If we do have a utility room, that could be used as a boot room.

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It has a door leading out to the garden, so that would work.

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Is there anything you'd advise against or anything that you'd

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do differently? There are little things.

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Nothing that anybody would notice. Just maybe the odd light switch.

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Or the odd light itself. My advice would be just plan, plan, plan.

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The more you can work out if it's the right place for a light switch

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or if it makes sense if a door opens that way,

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the more it will flow when you actually build it.

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Yeah, very good. Thank you, guys.

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It's been amazing to see around the place

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and thank you for some great advice as well.

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Thank you very much. Thanks.

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Emma and Richard took an abandoned building and created a family home

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that otherwise they may not have been able to afford.

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Hopefully, this visit has given

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Samuel and Helen a sense of what's ahead.

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I've got a feeling this place was kind of to your taste.

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How have you found it? It's been perfect.

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It's been really, really good to see a project that is similar,

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in the sense that it's an old house, new extension

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and similar taste to what we like, which is fantastic.

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Obviously, the unknown is the family and how you plan a family home.

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Some ideas here and also some reassurance that you're not

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alone in wanting a gadget room.

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It was remarkable when we

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walked into something that was literally in my head.

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And that it's a valid thing to do, I think. It's not overly ambitious.

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There are still bits on your plan

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you're not quite sure what you're going to do with.

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I suppose the advice there was just plan, plan, plan.

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I know it sounds quite simple, but Richard saying about cutting

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out furniture on paper and literally moving it around the room.

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Actually, that's a really good idea.

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We could just do that with the unknown space

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and see if there's a way we can make it work.

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Well, I'm pleased this place is so well suited. Thank you.

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I'm pleased it's worked out and that you've got a great, great home,

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and it's going to be an incredible place once you've finished it.

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The very best of luck. I hope it finishes on time.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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I'm really pleased that Sam and Helen could see this place.

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It's never easy to have an extension,

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especially to an old property,

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but here it's been done brilliantly, so they are going away with loads of

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inspiration, loads of advice on how to create that perfect family space.

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And I'm sure before very long

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that's what they'll transform their empty property into.

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