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Hello. Welcome to Gardeners' World.

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I shall be making the most of this fading and elegant season.

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I'm also preparing for next year.

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Carol has got some great advice on how to take your garden with you

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when you move house.

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For me, and lots of other people I know,

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plants are more important than any piece of furniture.

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But by using the right techniques you can very quickly

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turn your new garden into a home from home.

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And Joe is visiting what I think is one of the best combinations

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this country has to offer of architecture and planting.

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Every time I come here it gets my gardening blood flowing.

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It is fantastic, and I love it.

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One of the many things I like about September

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is that the relationship between things to enjoy in the garden

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and things to do, is very nicely balanced

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because the garden is never so full as now.

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And there is nothing really pressing.

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It is not like April, where you feel that jobs just have to be done,

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to get on, or even as you go into October and November

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and you've got to get things done before winter.

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Now is the time of year when there's masses to enjoy

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and not too much to do.

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And a lot of tweaking around.

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All I have to do here in the dry garden is cut away anything

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that does not look good now.

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Because as a rule of thumb, if it doesn't look good now,

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it's not going to get any better over the coming months.

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I am afraid, this is it. There isn't a lot of it.

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Just some Aquilegias here that have got pretty manky.

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Cardoon leaves that could come off.

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That is not going to look any better in November than it does now.

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However, the good news is, particularly here in the dry garden,

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is that most of this will get better and better over the coming months

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because it gradually becomes statuesque and stately

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as winter comes in and strips it of all its green.

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Then it gets frosted and the seedheads look really clear,

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and the birds of course love it.

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Because this is grown on poor soil, these plants are tough.

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That means they are growing strong, upright,

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they are not flopping all over the place, they are not bashed by wind.

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So this is actually a very good winter garden.

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And it is a good tip, if you've got poor soil,

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it is going to limit your choice of plants, and limit how they grow.

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But if they do adapt, they will survive very well

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into autumn and winter.

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Just a little bit of tidying up. That is all I have to do.

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I like the way that this mullein is holding well.

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In this poor soil, it is standing up.

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It is not a thing of great beauty but it will get better

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and it will gradually and then elegantly decay,

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and the birds will perch on it,

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and it will sway, and it will get frosted.

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And talking about frosted, all these umbellifers,

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the fennel, and the teasels, with their heads,

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perfect for autumn and winter weather.

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I like the grasses too.

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The grasses in this soil grow very, very differently

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than they do in another part of the garden which has got richer soil.

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This is Miscanthus malepartus.

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It opens out like that and then the seedheads will fall.

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It really looks good.

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September is a really good time to be planting bulbs.

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We tend to think about bulbs

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as being for sunny, well-drained places.

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But there are a group that will do perfectly well in light shade,

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and woodland in fact.

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Oh, you've dropped your apple!

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Nigel, by the way, regards apples as balls that grow on trees.

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And I'm converting the copse into a woodland garden.

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Not a huge change, I'm not going to dig it all up,

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I'm going to plant into the ground.

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There are masses of primroses and bluebells

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but I am just adding to the planting.

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And also adding variety.

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And of course, all the plants

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must be adapted to growing in light shade.

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And the first is Erythronium. Dog's tooth violet.

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And the reason it is called dog's tooth violet is...

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It just so happens we have a dog here to show!

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Pretty similar, Nige.

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They are long and they look just like a dog's canine.

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But they have a bulb that can be planted like any other.

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Just budge a minute. Can you move? No? Obviously not.

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I'm going to plant them here. You are not supposed to be doing this!

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You're not supposed to be!

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So, if I plant a batch here, working between the tree roots,

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put them in fairly far apart,

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because this particular variety, which is White Beauty,

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have quite big leaves, and the leaves are very decorative too.

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So you don't want to crowd them all out.

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One of the things I love about bulbs

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is you get quite a lot for not very much money.

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So you get a decent effect.

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Remember the rule of planting any bulb.

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You can scarcely be too deep, but you can plant too shallow.

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The deeper the better really. And at least twice its own depth.

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So, on a long bulb like that, you want to dig a hole quite deep.

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And September, early October,

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is a really good time for any bulb planting.

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For spring flower bulbs, that is.

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Because they start growing,

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in the case of daffodils, as early as late August.

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And the longer they have to grow in the ground,

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the bigger and the healthier the plant will be

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and the better flowers you will get next spring.

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The only bulb that you can, and indeed should, plant late

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and by late, I mean November, December, is a tulip.

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Now, I love dog's tooth violet. And they are special plants.

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But I have to confess, they are not as special as these.

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This is Trillium grandiflorum.

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Trillium is one of those plants that has charisma. It is special.

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It is called Trillium because it has got three petals,

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three sepals,

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a North American plant that likes shade, perfect for here.

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And this will grow, the white flower, to over a foot tall,

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which in spring flowering terms gives it stature.

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This is a plant that stands out above the crowd.

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It's quite expensive, £2.50 for each of the rhizomes,

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and I'll show you.

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They don't look very dramatic, like this...

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but that will become something very special, so it's worth investing.

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Do try and add some leaf mould to the soil if you can.

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Don't bury the rhizome too deeply, just cover it up with

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a couple of inches of soil and mark the spot so you don't disturb it.

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Now obviously there's nothing to see now,

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this is all about next year and probably the year after that

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and the year after that before they really look their best.

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But when you move home you do have to leave plants you love behind.

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But...not always.

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For each and every one of us our garden's a very special place.

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And they're full of memories too.

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Lots of plants represent people or occasions,

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things we've been given or we can remember in our mum's gardens.

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But what happens if we decide to move house?

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We've got to leave our plants where they are,

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but there are still ways and means to ensure that

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we bring parts of those plants with us to a new home.

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One of the letters we've had is from Elaine Ford and her husband

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who are moving house from Surrey to Devon.

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She's been taking loads of cuttings, but she specifically wants

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to know what to do to make sure that the lavender cuttings

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she's taken get off to a flying start in their new home.

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Well, these are the lavender cuttings that I took

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and they've made fine, bushy little plants.

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They should be very, very well-rooted.

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Ooh! Look at that.

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I could just leave them in this little pot but if I pot them on

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into something bigger it means they'll be much bigger plants

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by the spring.

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Just try and ensure they keep as much root with them as possible.

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I'll put them into a bigger pot.

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The idea is they've got a couple of months now where they can grow and

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make fairly rapid sort of growth.

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Then they can stay in those pots over winter

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and go out into the garden or be potted on again.

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If I nip these tops and remove some cuttings from the edge,

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just taking the top couple of inches from them,

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it'll mean all those little side shoots will make big laterals

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and the whole bush is going to be really big

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and shrubby by next spring.

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The advantage of that is I'll get masses more flowers.

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If I ever had to move house there's one plant I'd just have to

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bring with me and that's this beautiful white Phlox.

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I use it all the way through this bed.

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It's got huge sentimental value.

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My mum Jeanie gave me a bit of this when we first came to the garden

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and I couldn't take cuttings from it now, but there are so many

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other perennials in the garden that are just ripe for taking cuttings.

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Don't you just love this gorgeous dark plant?

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It looks like chocolate and that's its name -

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Ageratina altissima 'Chocolate'.

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"Altissima" meaning it's tall and really chunky.

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These plants have only been in these new beds for a year.

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They were tiny plants when I put them in,

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and they were grown from cuttings.

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I can raid this without it having any adverse effect at all.

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It's not just this plant that you can take cuttings from.

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There are loads of them! Things like Penstemons.

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You might have to use a knife

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if you're taking cuttings from a big shoot on a Penstemon.

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Or you can pull off little side shoots like this.

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Asters - you can leave them right over the winter.

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Take them with you in the spring, pot them up and then put them

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out later into your garden. It's easy really.

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Although there are all sorts of plants you can grow from

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cuttings, and it's a really exciting way of making more plants,

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there's one way that's even more time-honoured -

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and that is collecting seed.

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It's the easiest way to move your plants from one garden to another.

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In these big pots, I've got all manner of annuals.

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They look a bit scruffy now because with both my Cerinthe

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and these lovely Calendula -

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I've not deadheaded them for weeks

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because I've wanted them to make seed.

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And they have!

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The seeds on Cerinthe - big and black - very obvious.

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They're the ideal thing,

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if you've got a family, for little hands to come and collect and to

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take part of their old garden into their new garden and sow themselves.

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Moving house can be one of the most stressful events in anybody's life

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but it can also be one of the most exciting.

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For me and lots of other people I know,

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plants are more important than any piece of furniture, but by using

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the right techniques, by taking cuttings,

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making divisions and collecting seeds

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you can quickly turn your new garden into a home from home.

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Sometimes you find yourself salvaging plants,

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not to take from one garden to another, but within your own garden.

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That's the case this year for me with Verbena bonariensis.

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Last summer, the Jewel Garden was full of it, we had great clouds

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of its lovely flowers, which of course are so good for butterflies.

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They just love these little florets.

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It's a plant that comes from the Pampas of Argentina and stands out.

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It's perfect for a border

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because you can mingle it with almost anything.

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It works it way through

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and doesn't get shielded by it, which is why I want more.

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We did have lots of seeds and the fact we put a really thick mulch on

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stopped them germinating,

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whereas in the grass borders we didn't mulch, it has come back.

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Now, I shall sow seed next spring and it grows well from seed

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and I might dig up some plants and over winter them in the cold frame.

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So they can be planted out after we've mulched next year.

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I'll also take cuttings and you can take them

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at this time of year from Verbena bonariensis very easily.

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We're looking for side shoots.

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Not the main stem,

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but the shoots that grow between the main steam and a leaf.

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Here's one but this is too big, this ends in a flower.

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You want one without a flower -

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never take a cutting with a flower on the end.

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But off this side shoot are further side shoots,

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so there's one there.

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That will make good cut material.

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With side shoots like this you can either peel them off

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or you can cut them.

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And that just pulls off without any problem at all.

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That's the sort of size of Verbena cutting I like to take.

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Ideally that, or even a little bit bigger.

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The routine for taking cuttings is pretty established -

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some really good, well-drained compost.

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I've run out of grit so I'm using Perlite.

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And act fast.

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Take your cut material out.

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Strip off the lower leaves.

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You don't want to leave too many.

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Pop them in.

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These should establish roots within a few weeks.

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But they will wilt fast if you don't keep them nice and moist.

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If you've got a propagator, well worth it.

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If you haven't, you could consider putting a plastic bag around them.

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Although there is always a risk of it getting too wet in there.

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Or just mist them two, three or four times a day.

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You can see I'm not cutting the end.

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If you cut them, cut them cleanly beneath a leaf node.

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Right...

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I'll do the others in a minute

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but that really does need to be kept moist.

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I've got a propagator and I'll put it in.

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In this weather that'll just go flop and they will never recover.

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You may not consider doing any cuttings this weekend,

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but here are some other things you could be doing.

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Agapanthus are coming to the end of their flowering season,

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but don't ignore them

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because next year's flowers depend upon the next few weeks.

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So keep them in full sunshine, keep them well-watered and give them

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a high potash feed such as liquid seaweed or a tomato feed.

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September is the ideal month to cut Yew, either hedges or topiary.

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If you're cutting topiary don't try and get it dead right

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on the first pass, work upwards and all over the entire piece.

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Then when you've taken the general shape off, you can fine tune it.

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It's worth checking your apples now

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because they're beginning to ripen and fall daily.

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If an apple's ripe it'll come away readily in your hand.

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If it falls to the ground, it won't keep so use them straightaway.

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If you've a lot, simply juice them.

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Other than cut the grass and collect the fruit,

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we've let the orchard do its own thing.

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But Joe's been to a garden that is much more structured.

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I think it's a brilliant combination of tight architectural structure and loose planting.

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Five years ago,

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Hestercombe in Somerset became an RHS Partner Garden.

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To be one, the garden has to fulfil three conditions.

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It's got to be a good horticultural standard,

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a great visitor experience and inspirational to gardeners.

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Hestercombe's 18th-century landscape is certainly impressive,

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but within its grounds is an Edwardian gem

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that I know well and absolutely love.

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I first came here about 20 years ago. Well, over 20 years, actually!

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And the garden just blew me away, and it was pretty much there and then

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that I decided I wanted to be a professional garden designer.

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At the time, this was the most impressive

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and inspirational garden I had ever seen.

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It was completed in 1906 by British architect Edwin Lutyens

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and doyenne of garden design Gertrude Jekyll.

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Lutyens was famous for his arts and crafts buildings

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that imaginatively re-fashioned English country houses

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with romantic and medieval features.

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Jekyll was famous for her flowing cottage-garden style

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and skilled use of colour.

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She introduced Lutyens to many garden projects,

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and Hestercombe is considered to be their finest collaboration.

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When I first came, I was so lucky.

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I had the place to myself, the sun was setting,

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the light was absolutely magical,

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and I felt myself being breathlessly drawn through the garden

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into certain rooms and then looking along vistas and wanting to go there.

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But it was only after, after I'd left the garden,

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that I realised I had no control over it.

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I was being manipulated by Edwin Lutyens and Gertrude Jekyll.

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They were doing it to me. And I didn't even know it.

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I just love all the stone detailing in this garden. It's so beautiful.

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A really good example, this local stone is called mort slate

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and then this is just absolutely classic Lutyens set of steps,

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the way they fan out, concentric circles,

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but they've been softened by Gertrude Jekyll's planting.

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Lovely, Cerastium and fleabane softening the rises,

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but still keeping it practical cos you can walk all the way up them.

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And the whole composition... It's just so pretty.

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For 60 years, the garden was left to crumble

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until the Hestercombe Gardens Trust took it over in 2003.

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All the stone in the garden has recently been restored

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but the planting was something of a mystery

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until Gertrude Jekyll's plans were discovered.

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Head gardener Claire Reid has brought some copies to show me.

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Where did they come from?

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They were found in the sort of gardener's mess hut,

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left abandoned there, really, so we've been really lucky

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because we've been able to work with them as much as possible.

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We've had to change a few things.

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For instance, the huge canners you can see in the sunken garden,

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which we call the Great Plat,

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they're meant to be variegated maize

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and we ordered the seed from France and we grew these maize

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but because we're in Somerset, the badgers just went for them.

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So that's our change, really.

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And what about the gladioli?

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They're quite stunning, really. Was that one of her colours?

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-Yeah.

-That salmon pink gladioli?

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Yeah, lots of people think we've done this wrong often

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because people think of Jekyll as being the soft hues and muted tones

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and sort of graduating colour.

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But here, she described it in her book as vibrating colours.

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And another point is

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she didn't have that wide a range of plants that we have today either.

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-It was much more limited, wasn't it?

-No, it was a limited palette,

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but that gives you the balance around the garden.

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If you're only using a smaller palette,

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you're not bombarding the eye with lots of different things.

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It's probably a good way of designing.

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There are details in the garden

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that hint at Lutyens' and Jekyll's team-work.

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Lutyens left holes in the walls to enable Jekyll to plant them up,

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and a glorious pergola that lures you around the far reaches of the garden.

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I love this pergola. It's about 200 feet long.

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Apparently, it's one of the longest pergolas in the UK.

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And I love the way the lavenders just billow over the paving

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either side of it.

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Just lovely and soft but the eye is drawn through the middle.

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The garden faces onto open countryside,

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cleverly drawing you away from the austere Victorian building.

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However, much of the view is blocked by walling and the pergola,

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but the design allows you glimpses through the gaps and apertures

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that intensify the views beyond.

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You're not quite sure what you'll see until you get there.

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There's always this excitement of what's round the next corner.

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And there you go. Oh, look at that!

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Isn't that just beautiful?

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The lawns either side and the rill right up the middle,

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drawing your eye...

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And you're not disappointed when your eye gets there, that's the thing.

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It's exciting to walk around this garden as it twists and turns

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and delights.

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And it's a confident design by two people

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at the height of their creativity.

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Every time I come here, it gets my gardening blood flowing.

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It's fantastic and I love it.

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I love Hestercombe, too,

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and I do feel that Lutyens is one of the great unsung heroes

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of garden design.

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And I bet he never dug his own garden!

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And I'm digging the beds for the white garden...

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..which will be planted up this autumn and next spring.

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But preparing the soil is the key to it.

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Your plants are only as good as the soil,

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so that the better you can get it, the better the plants will be.

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It's really a very simple equation.

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But of course, you can't change your soil. It has a character.

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And it's important to know what it's like,

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and digging is certainly a very good way of finding out.

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This is a clay loam. As far as I know, it's never been dug before.

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So it needs breaking up

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because it's the structure that matters more than the facility.

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See, look, this has come away in a slab.

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So my soil is fundamentally clay that holds together

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and if I drop it, it won't break apart much.

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In fact, if I leave that all winter,

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the rain and the cold and the wind will break it down

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and you'll be amazed how next March or April,

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that'll be lovely, crumbly tilth.

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But if you're not certain how to tell, take a handful of soil,

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and first of all, hold it in your hand, toss it about.

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If it holds together, it's likely to be clay.

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If it was a sandy soil, it would break up.

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I have to really squeeze that to break it.

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Now, this is a clay loam,

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which means it's fundamentally clay but it's mixed in with humus.

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It's good soil. It's nice stuff. It does tend to be a bit heavy.

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If it was a sandy loam it would break up.

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The particles would be really big

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and the danger of that soil is all the water,

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all the goodness, can just leach through it,

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like a sieve. It just pours down, out of reach of the plants.

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So what you need to do then is to open it up,

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add masses of organic matter,

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and that holds it and gives it structure and substance.

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If it's a very heavy clay the water and the roots can't get in.

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It's a solid mass. Go on, move yourself!

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It literally becomes impenetrable.

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That becomes solid and hard,

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so we need to break it up, add organic matter

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so it's loose and open.

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And that's the real purpose of digging.

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Get the structure of the soil right

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regardless of what its basic character is.

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Using a spade...

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..is a beautifully fine-tuned business.

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Quite hard work digging this clay!

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This one, which I love and I've had about 20 years,

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is a good example of how the angles all work,

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so you put it in so it's upright

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and automatically that leans the handle away from you.

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And then when you put your foot on it, all the force is going down,

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so you go down like that and it goes down easily.

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And then in this case you pull it out,

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chop down that way,

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hardly any effort.

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Again, put it down straight and just pull it back towards you

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and the soil levers out.

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And that's easy.

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A few weeks ago,

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I showed you the effects of blight in this greenhouse.

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Never had blight here before, and funnily enough,

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it hasn't affected the other greenhouse

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where the tomatoes are absolutely fine.

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However, I had to pull all these out.

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We salvaged a lot of the tomatoes but others had to be burnt, too.

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Now, I've had lots of letters. This is Ron Taylor, "sincerely stressed".

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Kim Bull in Chichester.

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We've got John Rich, and they've all asked the same thing.

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How do they deal with the soil or the compost

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after you've got rid of blighted tomatoes?

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The truth is, there's not too much to worry about

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because the blight will only go on living in the soil or compost

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in living organisms, and that means tomatoes or potatoes.

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No risk of tomatoes going on living in the soil.

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There is potatoes. If you're growing potatoes,

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you do need to get rid of every scrap

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and not grow potatoes there next year.

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But tomatoes in a greenhouse,

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very, very small risk of the spores living on till next spring.

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I shall be sowing a salad crop in here and putting in plugs

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because it doesn't transmit to anything other than

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tomatoes or potatoes.

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Next spring, I'll probably change the soil

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but that's a good idea to do in a greenhouse every three years or so,

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to stop the build-up of viruses.

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And I'll also give it a good scrub. But don't worry.

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It's not going to lurk in your soil over winter

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and then destroy next year's crop.

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That's it for this week.

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Next week I shan't be at Long Meadow as we are doing an RHS special.

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I'll be down at Wisley, Carol will be up at Harlow Carr.

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So we'll see you at our normal time then. Bye-bye.

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