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In difficult market conditions, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
it's harder to make short-term profit out of property. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
But if you buy at the right price and in the right location, it is still possible to make some money. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:14 | |
But you really must do your homework, so let us be your guide on Homes Under The Hammer. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
No matter how experienced you are, you can still come a cropper buying property at auction. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
Make sure you do your research and can afford to make a few mistakes. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
So were today's buyers well-prepared or did the auction properties spring a few surprises? | 0:00:54 | 0:01:00 | |
'Will this house in Stoke-on-Trent tick all the boxes?' | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
Tick! | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
VG. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
'There's a flat in Morden that needs somebody who can climb these stairs and cross the road.' | 0:01:10 | 0:01:16 | |
Whoever buys this place is going to be a risk-taker. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
'And this place in Kent was up for sale, but there was a catch.' | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
You can't buy this one, but you can buy this one. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
'All these properties have been sold at auction and we'll find out who bought them and what they paid | 0:01:31 | 0:01:37 | |
-'when they went under the hammer.' -Your lot, sir. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
This is Bentilee in Stoke. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Primarily, it's a large housing estate. Very large, in fact. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
4,500 properties approximately and all very similar to the one I'm here to see. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
This is it, two-bedroom, semi-detached at a guide price of 49,000 quid. Let's look inside. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:07 | |
You do get a worrying sense of deja vu around every corner | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
with 4,500 identikit houses. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
# If everybody looked the same... # | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
But the properties themselves are solid-looking and the area has had much-needed investment. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
That makes the guide price of £49,000 even more appealing. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:31 | |
OK, not an ideal entrance layout - | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
through the front door and straight into a big wall, but you've got stairs up to the bedrooms, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
then through into the front living room, not in bad condition. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
It needs a bit of modernisation in terms of the paintwork and fireplace, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
but it doesn't smell damp, it looks reasonably well looked after. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
Double glazing, which is always a bonus. Yeah, not bad. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
It's not bad at all. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
Just off the living room, you'll find a utility area | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
with plenty of storage and space for a washing machine. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Through into the kitchen and a lovely surprise. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
A nice-sized space, recently refurbished, so you've got pleasant work surfaces, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
modern units, white and clean. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
And as with many houses of this age, very practical things like the pantry there, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
so all in all, we are loving this property. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
In fact, I'd go so far as to say... Tick! VG. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
# Very good, very good, very good Very, very, very, very good... # | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Very good indeed. In fact, this doesn't feel like an auction property at all. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
The garden is beautifully tended and there's the fruit of the person who really took care of their home. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:50 | |
Top marks all round! I wonder if a trip upstairs will prove as fruitful? | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
So, upstairs, an eminently sensible layout. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
You've got a bathroom and a separate loo. I like that. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
Rear bedroom there and through to the front of the property where you have a ginormous front bedroom. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:08 | |
Other properties on this estate have converted this into two rooms. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
That is a very sensible idea. You've got two windows. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
All you need to do is put a stud partition wall in here | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
and then, going back out here, there is this thing here, which is the hot water tank in there. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:27 | |
Get rid of this, bring the entrance door into the bedroom there, put a combination boiler in its place | 0:04:27 | 0:04:33 | |
and you've got a very simple solution - three bedrooms, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
which, I've found out from a local estate agent, would add £50 a month to the rent or 600 quid a year. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:43 | |
It won't cost you more than 600 quid to do that, so it's repaid for in one year. That is a good investment. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:50 | |
Phew, and breathe, but seriously, I can relax now that I've found an easy way | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
to add value to this place because that's what developing is all about. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
Put that third bedroom in and you've made it worth more and broadened your market, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
but being a developer also means doing your research | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
and you never know what secrets you might unearth | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
with a bit of digging! | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
OK, time for your Open University home study course in Property Renovation, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:18 | |
Module 4 - Red Ash. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
This is particularly important if you're thinking of buying a property built in the 1940s or 1950s | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
in industrial areas like Stoke-on-Trent | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
because red ash was the remains when they burnt coal | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
in power stations, factories and coal mines. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
It was used as an infill underneath concrete in times when building materials were quite scarce. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
Fine in theory, apart from the fact that red ash, when it gets wet, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
has a chemical reaction which causes the concrete to bubble. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
That can be very expensive to replace - £8,000 to £10,000 for a house like this, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
so you've got to check the floor. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
That looks like new concrete and it's been replaced, so that is great news. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
It's saved you all that money, so it's a big tick in the box for this house. Here endeth the lesson. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:09 | |
So, with room to increase the value and improve, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
and with no nasty mining deposits lurking, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
it's a promising house in my opinion | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
and well worth taking on. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
I asked a local estate agent for his thoughts. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
In this particular area, you can get a lot for your money | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
because the prices of semi-detached properties are similar | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
to the prices of small terraced properties in other areas. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
This property is in reasonable condition already. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
There isn't a great deal that needs to be done before somebody could move in or let the property. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:49 | |
I think the best way to increase the value of the property | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
would be to split the largest bedroom into two. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
And more bedrooms means more money. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
I would estimate the property today to be worth in the region of £65,000. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
After gas central heating is installed in the property, also the additional third bedroom, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
we would be closer to £70,000. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
How much could it rent for if it had three bedrooms? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
I would estimate the rental income to be in the region of £450 per month. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
So, all in all, a good, little house and it's great that a lot of the structural work's been done for you. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
You won't make tens of thousands of quid in terms of re-sale value, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
but, especially if you convert that upstairs bedroom into two, this could be a great rental property. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:40 | |
Let's see who agreed when it went under the hammer. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Start me at 35. Let's get it going. 35 I'm bid. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
Thank you. At £35,000. 40 can I say now? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
40 I'm bid. Thank you. At £40,000. 45, is it? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
At £40,000. I'll take 1 if it helps? At 40... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
41. 42. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
43. 44. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
New bidder, £45,000. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
46, is it? 46. 47. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
48. 49. 50, is it? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
At 49,000. Seated left at £49,000. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Are we all done at...? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
New bidder, £50,000. 51. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
52, sir? 52. 53. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
At 53,000. Another one, is it? | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
54. 55. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Another one, sir? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
At 55,000. Shaking his head. At 55, the bid's there. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
At £55,000 then. Are we all done? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
At 55 then for the first time. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
At 55 for the second time. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Third and final time... He's back in, 56. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
57, sir? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
56 and a half. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
57, sir...? No? | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
56 and a half, still with you in the third row. At £56,500 then first time... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
At 56-5 second time. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Third and final time at 56-5... | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
BANGS GAVEL It's your lot, sir. Well done. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
'That successful bid of £56,500 came from Mark. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
'He came to meet me along with his girlfriend Dot | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
'who's now officially in charge of decor and tea-making.' | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
# I've a smile on my face... # | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
'This is Mark's first development and it's a good one to cut his teeth on.' | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
-Mark, very good to meet you. -And you. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
Congratulations. Nice little house. Why did you want to buy it? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
It's my first venture into it, so I thought I'd buy something that was quite straightforward to do. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
-What do you do at the moment? -I've had 12 months off from work. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
I've been in double glazing all my life and I fancied a change, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
so I've been buying and trying to sell number plates. I haven't been very successful. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-Number plates? -Private plates, car plates. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
-What's the most expensive number plate you managed to sell? -None yet. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
-Right, a really bad business! -Really bad business, yes! Terrible. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
So I've gone into this to see if I can make a few pounds. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Let's hope property developing is more of a licence to print money. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
"JAMES BOND" THEME MUSIC | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
'If he's going to have a licence to make a killing in this business, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
'then Mark needs to drive this development harder or soon he'll hit the skids. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:42 | |
'It seems this year has been more of a licence to chill, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
'but now it's time he started to make some money.' | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
So what are you going to do to it? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
Right, in the lounge first of all, I'm going to re-decorate, take the carpets up, | 0:10:53 | 0:11:00 | |
maybe do something with the fireplace. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
The kitchen's fine, the bathroom's fine. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
-It's two bedrooms, so I'm going to convert that into three bedrooms. -The big bedroom at the front? -Yeah. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
Take the boiler out upstairs, put full central heating in, tidy the outside up. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:19 | |
-Also have some new interior doors. -What budget have you got for doing the work? -Round about five. -OK. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:25 | |
'Assuming Mark means 5,000 and not a fiver, then that should cover it | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
'as there's not a huge amount to be done here. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
'He has the advantage of an NVQ in painting and decorating, which he got five years ago | 0:11:33 | 0:11:39 | |
'and will finally be putting to good use. He hopes to do it all in six weeks.' | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
-A year ago, you went into business buying number plates and trying to re-sell them. -Yes. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
-It didn't go very well. -No, I've still got them all. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-Sold none. -Not one. -And how many did you buy? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Approximately 24. Yes. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
What did you learn from that? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
I rushed into that. I just went and bought them. This one, I have done my homework. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
I know the roof's sound. I know the floors and the damp-proof's been done. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
It's a very sound house and there's no mineshafts around the area. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
-You won't end up with 24 properties in a few years' time that you haven't sold? -Hopefully not! | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
Well, let's hope that this venture is more successful for Mark than his last. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:30 | |
It will be difficult for him to make too many mistakes here, but you never know. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
Find out how he gets on later. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
I'm in Morden today which is another of those places outside London which is said to be between addresses. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:51 | |
It's postcode is Surrey, yet it's considered to be part of Greater London. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
Either way, you're within 20 minutes of the M25 and ten miles away from central London. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:02 | |
Sounds like a great place to commute, but it's far enough out to hopefully bag a property bargain. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
# Set my sights on London town... # | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
It's also on the Northern Line of the London Underground with Morden Station only a short walk away. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
The property I'm here to see today is purpose-built. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
It's a 1930s first-floor flat on this shopping parade in Morden. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
It looks pretty small from the outside. It had a guide price of £40,000-plus. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
That sounds on the low side for London, doesn't it? There must be more to this story. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:37 | |
But to find out, I'll have to get round the back of these terraces to the flat's entrance. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
Before I even enter the flat, there are some issues that worry me. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
To get to the back of the building, you have to go down a dark alley, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
then the entrance is up a metal staircase which is also a fire escape. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
This access will not appeal to everyone. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
# I come closer to reaching the top | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
# Every step must be placed so that I don't fall off... # | 0:14:05 | 0:14:12 | |
Well, I have to admit it's quite an effort getting into the flat. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
But once inside, it's in quite good condition. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
A shower room here with nice tiles on the walls. Interesting floor covering. I'll come back to that. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:31 | |
And a fairly decent-sized kitchen. I wouldn't exactly call it fitted. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
I'd probably change a few bits and pieces around here - | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
install a new cooker and maybe a new sink, but it's a really good size. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
All I can say is, the floor here, same as the bathroom, a little bit racy perhaps? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
Let's hope this flat is on the road to success! I'm going to have a look around. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
"FORMULA ONE" THEME MUSIC | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
But you're on the road to nowhere if you're after a bath. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
There's only a shower room, although there are three bedrooms. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
So it's all looking rosy, but there is a very big problem with this flat. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
Apparently, there's only 21 years left on the lease of this property, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
which makes it pretty much un-mortgageable and therefore only suitable for a cash buyer. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
Not so unusual for auction properties, but to work out how much it will cost to extend the lease | 0:15:23 | 0:15:29 | |
is dependent on a conversation between the new owner and the owner of the freehold. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
Plus, that discussion can only take place after the property has been in possession for two years. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:40 | |
It's not impossible, but it's going to cost, so whoever buys this place is going to be a risk-taker. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:47 | |
On the face of it, this flat seems in presentable condition with only cosmetic work needed. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
You could be laughing all the way to the bank. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
To find out more, let's hear what an estate agent thinks of the place. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
It's got a very, very good location | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
right in the centre of town. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
I don't think I've ever seen one quite as close to everything, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
but there will be a certain negativity from some buyers | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
in relation to the access. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
It is a very good size and for a property that's gone into auction, the condition is pretty good. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:25 | |
It's a good rental prospect because of its location, but what sort of income could it achieve? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:31 | |
Once it's renovated and depending on the quality of the work that they do, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
I would expect it would go something around 8 to 850 a calendar month. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
With a guide price of £40,000, what about re-sale, bearing in mind that short lease? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
If the lease wasn't addressed, but it was just renovated, the property would sell for around £85,000. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:53 | |
If the lease was renewed and the renovation was completed, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
you could have a value of around £105,000 to £110,000. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
Well, for a small property, it's not without its issues. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
The access to the flat - it's not ideal, that metal staircase, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
and the lease situation will be a bit of a tricky one. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
On the plus side, it won't need too much work inside to get it up to a good rental property standard | 0:17:12 | 0:17:18 | |
with public transport for central London right on your doorstep. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Let's see who saw the potential of this property at the auction. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
Lot 46 is... | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
It's a four-room, purpose-built flat. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
Do I have 30,000 anywhere? 30 at the back. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
35. 40. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
45. 50. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
55. 60. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
65. 66. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
67? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
-66,500. -66,500, why not? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
67. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
67 and a half? Yeah? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
67 and a half. 68. 68 and a half. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
69. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
69 and a half. 70? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
How could you value it at 500? 70,000, one more crack, yeah? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
70, yeah? 70. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
70,000 first time, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
second time, third and last time. Are you all done? | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
Sold, 70, well bought. You just got there. It paid off. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
'So, for £70,000, 30,000 over the guide price, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
'father and son Bob and Chris have bought this as a project to work on together.' | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
# Come on, come on, let's work together... # | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
'I went to meet them to find out why they chose this flat and paid 30 grand above the guide price.' | 0:18:43 | 0:18:50 | |
Guys, congratulations. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
-Now, Bob, you were at the auction. -Yeah. -Chris, you weren't at the auction. -No. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:59 | |
Who saw the flat and got the ball rolling? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
I saw the flat initially and said to my dad | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
that it seemed a good property to purchase. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
And he took my word for it. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-He talked you into buying this flat or bidding for it? -He did. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
We'd agreed a price beforehand that was our maximum. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
It sailed merrily past that and I just kept sticking my hand up, nodding my head, whatever I did. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
-What was your top limit on this flat? -60,000. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
So you went ten grand over the price you agreed? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
-Yeah. -Why was that? -I was determined to buy it. -Just because you wanted to buy something? -Yeah. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
We're just starting this. It's a new career for us. I'm retiring in April. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
This is going to be our career going forward, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
so I've sort of promised my son that this is what we'd do. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
I just thought if I go home with nothing, he'll think it's just pie-in-the-sky talk, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:57 | |
but if I go home with something... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
I'm just glad the other person stopped when they did. I would have just carried on. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
'Although Bob paid over the odds, it might not be a problem | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
'if they can make a good return on renting it out. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
'What could be a problem is that issue with the lease.' | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
Something that worries me is you have a fairly low lease here - 20 to 21 years on this property? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:22 | |
It's just coming down to 20 years, yeah. Trying to do the maths, I think it works out OK. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:28 | |
If what we've been told we can rent it for, if we can get that, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
even if we depreciated the property fully over the 20 years, we'd still get a decent return on our money, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:39 | |
especially compared to what you're getting in the high street just now, so I'm quite happy with that. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
We're not really looking to sell this. It was what I would call an apprentice piece. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:51 | |
It's our first property and we're using this to learn what we can. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
'They seem to be fitting into their new roles as property developers. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
'Bob currently works as a pensions manager. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
'As the money man on this project, he'll leave the manual work to his son who's in the building trade.' | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
How good are you at building? Have you had any experience in doing this before? Why are you laughing? | 0:21:09 | 0:21:15 | |
I've had a few moments. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
I specialise in roofing. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
But in the internal side, no, I haven't. I've only got my own property to go by. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:26 | |
As my dad's laughing, it's not the best. There's jobs started, but not finished. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
Forgive me for being silly, so why have you decided to team up then, you two? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
It's like that cottage on the front of the box of chocolates that looks so nice. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:42 | |
To sort of go into your old age as father and son in business, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
it's just got a romantic edge to it. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
But we play... On the Saturday, we play football. Chris is the captain and I'm the manager. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:55 | |
And we row like cat and dog there, so there'll be no difference. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
It will be nice just to see him do some work. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
'Although it's only cosmetic, there's quite a bit to do before this place starts earning money.' | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
What sort of budget are you looking to spend here? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Bearing in mind that I've already gone £10,000 above our budget, we're looking to claw some back. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:22 | |
Our total outlay, we really don't want to go above 75,000, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
so that would leave us just over 4,000 to spend on the refurb. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
-How long will it take you to get this place up to scratch? -About six to eight weeks. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
'Sounds reasonable, so why does Chris look so uncomfortable?' | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
I'm slightly worried because before you asked the question, we were talking about four to six weeks. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:48 | |
All of a sudden, he's told you six to eight, so we seem to have an extension already. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
Do you think you'll have fun working together? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
-Hopefully, hopefully. -Yeah, I think it'll be fun. -We'll give it a go. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
-There'll be ups and downs. -We're used to that. -Yeah, we're used to that. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
Bob, in his own words, has taken this on as an apprentice project. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
He's admitted paying too much at the auction for this flat, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
which means poor Chris has less to spend on the renovations. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
Will they extend the lease and whose timescale is more realistic? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Find out what they do later in the programme. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
'Coming up, this place in Kent impressed me from the outside, but inside...' | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
The kitchen, frankly, is rubbish. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
'Bob, the cashpoint king, learns the downside of property development.' | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
Put in the number, get out cash, hand it to Chris. That's my role. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
'But first, it doesn't just rain, it pours at this house in Stoke.' | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
When the walls have come down, a lot of the plaster's dropped off. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
'This is Bentilee in Stoke, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
'a 1950s housing estate with 4,500 properties, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
'making it one of the largest in Europe. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
'This property was bought at auction for £56,500 by Mark | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
'and his girlfriend Dot who planned to do it up.' | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
'Mark has an NVQ in painting and decorating and used to work for a double glazing firm, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:29 | |
'but he took a year out and started a business trying to sell car number plates.' | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
-What was the most expensive number plate you managed to sell? -None yet. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
-A really bad business. -Really bad business, yes. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
'Those figures don't add up particularly well. Let's hope he has better luck with this house. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:50 | |
'It didn't need much work, just a bit of tidying, and it looks like he's done a really good job. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:56 | |
'One major job was the central heating system and judging by those radiators, that's been done. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:03 | |
'It appears the property development is going OK, but what about the number plate business?' | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
I've sold three now, which still isn't a great amount, but it's better than nothing. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
'So things are looking up. Talking of which, let's go to the second floor.' | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
'The small bedroom is much the same. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
'It's been re-decorated in neutral colours like most of the house. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
'The second bedroom, well, that's now two bedrooms. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
'Hang on. Has he been dabbling with numbers again?' | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Originally, this was one big bedroom, approximately 17 foot by 9 foot. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
We decided to convert it into two bedrooms. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
What was here on the left was a hot-water tank and a header tank, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
so we've removed those and made a hallway into the third bedroom. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
We've put a partition studded wall in here, so you've got a bedroom this side and a bedroom that side. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:03 | |
The reason we've done that is if we do decide to sell it, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
it's added perhaps £4,000 to £5,000 on the value of selling it, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
if it's rented, approximately £50 to £60 a week on the rental value, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:17 | |
so, all in all, we thought it was a very good idea to do it. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
'Turning this two-bedroom into a three-bedroom house not only means he can get more for it, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:27 | |
'it will also appeal to a wider market, including families. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
'There wasn't a lot to do here. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
'The bathroom only needed a coat of paint, which certainly improves it.' | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
'Downstairs, the kitchen had already been replaced before Mark bought it, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
'so all he did was give it a coat of paint and install a boiler for the new central heating system. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:54 | |
'Were there any hiccups?' | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
When the walls have come down, a lot of the plaster's dropped off, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
so a lot of it's needed re-plastering upstairs. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
It's had a partial re-wire as well, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
which you can't see. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
Some floorboards - when the central heating was done - were damaged, so a lot of them had to be replaced. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:16 | |
I've been in the building trade most of my life and in double glazing, so I've found it quite easy | 0:27:16 | 0:27:22 | |
because I'm a decorator by trade and I'm fairly well organised. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
It's gone like a dream, not many problems at all. I've been very lucky. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
'You can't blame him for lighting that fire. It's a bit parky outside! | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
'Meanwhile, all the guttering has been replaced, which is pretty vital in this weather especially. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:46 | |
'The garden has also been tidied up.' | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
'Mark's girlfriend Dot planned to help Mark out with the decorating and refreshments, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
'so how did that go?' | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
Dot's a full-time carer, caring for the elderly. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
But she's been here on her days and evenings off, helping me strip the paper, do the painting, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:10 | |
making cups of tea for the tradesmen and myself, and tidying the garden. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
'All jobs, including refreshments, were done in eight weeks. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
'There wasn't even time to take a holiday.' | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
I've been here every day including Christmas Day, Boxing Day, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, so I've been here most of the time. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
'I wonder if Father Christmas found him and gave him any presents!' | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
'Mark originally bought the property for £56,500 - £7,500 above the guide price.' | 0:28:39 | 0:28:46 | |
'He did no major work, so did he keep to his budget?' | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
My budget was £5,000 with £500 contingency. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
The budget's just actually gone to about £20 over. It's gone to £5,520. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:05 | |
The reason it's gone over is I had to have a new fireplace in | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
and the building work cost slightly extra, but we did save on carpets. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
'Phew! £20 over. He's certainly getting better with those numbers. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
'We asked a local estate agent whether it was worth Mark going that £20 over budget.' | 0:29:22 | 0:29:29 | |
The buyers have done everything that's needed. It's clean, fresh. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
The kitchen and bathroom are fine. Central heating has improved it. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
And it's done to a decent standard. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
Splitting one bedroom into two has been a success. We now have three usable bedrooms, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:46 | |
which adds to the appeal of the property. They haven't gone over the top with expensive fittings, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:53 | |
but it fulfils the role as a possible rental or resale property. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
'Mark spent around £62,000 in total on this property.' | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
'The house is looking great, but is he planning to sell it or rent it out? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:11 | |
'Let's check the figures.' | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
I would put this on the open market in the region of £75,000. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
-That's good. -To be honest, that's what we thought it would be valued at, around that. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:25 | |
'That's a potential profit of around about £13,000, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
'minus tax and expenses, of course. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
'But how much could they expect if they rented it out?' | 0:30:32 | 0:30:38 | |
I would expect the property to achieve £425 per calendar month. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
-That's OK as well. -That's fine. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
'£425 a month would see a healthy yield of over 8%. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
'So, decision time - rent or sell?' | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
-We think, at this stage, which we planned from day one, is renting it. -Yeah. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
So that's the line we're going to go down, yeah. Renting it. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
'Renting does sound like a great option here. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
'Since filming, Mark has lined up tenants who will pay £425 a month - | 0:31:10 | 0:31:16 | |
'exactly what was estimated. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
'But before we leave this happy tale, a little birdie tells me that renovating the house | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
'wasn't the only thing Mark did on Christmas Day.' | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
-It was a special day. We got engaged. -Yeah, we did. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
-We got engaged. -Yeah, we did. -So that was a really special day for us. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
'Aww! One plus one equals two. At last he gets his numbers right.' | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
'If the buyer of our next property was after bags of potential, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
'I reckon they were bang on track with this one.' | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
Well, just half an hour outside London and yet with a Kent address, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
Bexleyheath is a thriving town. Close to the M25, the A2. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
It's also well known as a very safe place to live so, not surprisingly, it's very popular. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:15 | |
The property I'm here to see sounds like a perfect investment opportunity. It's an end of terrace | 0:32:15 | 0:32:21 | |
divided into two flats. It had a guide price of 95,000 quid. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
And from the outside it looks rather lovely. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
Maybe these bay windows have got something to reveal inside. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
'Ta-da! OK, so no great surprises, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
'but for around £95,000 in a sought-after area, it doesn't look too bad. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:43 | |
'It even has the ever-desirable period features, thought they could do with some love and attention.' | 0:32:43 | 0:32:49 | |
Well, it looks pretty clean and tidy to start off with. That's good news. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
Very simple layout. A long, straight corridor and the bedrooms basically off it. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
Front bedroom, nice bay window. Open fire, that's good to see. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
Again, good size is that. Second bedroom towards the rear. Another fireplace. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
Understairs cupboard. That's useful. Storage space is at a premium. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
Back into this rear living room area. Icky tiles on the ceiling. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
Polystyrene tiles are a fire hazard and have got to come off. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:26 | |
But it seems like the problems are at the back. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Cos the kitchen, frankly, is rubbish. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
It needs total reworking. New units required. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
And it's a tiny space. Not a lot of room. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
And it gets worse because this is the only bathroom and loo in the property. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
It's actually a shower room. It's off the kitchen, it's not ideal. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:53 | |
This whole area is far too small for the flat. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
'That's not the only problem. There's no central heating, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
'the whole place needs rewired and the plumbing looks more than a little archaic.' | 0:34:01 | 0:34:07 | |
'On top of that, I've uncovered evidence of dry rot. Nasty! | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
'This will cost time and money to sort. Onwards and upwards.' | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
That's the ground floor flat. Let's take a look at upstairs. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
Well, unfortunately, we can't because it's already occupied and not just by a tenant. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:31 | |
It's owned by somebody else. The lot that was up for auction was the ground floor flat | 0:34:31 | 0:34:37 | |
and the freehold of the whole building. That is owned on a leasehold by somebody else. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
The good news is they have to pay you ground rent. However... it's only 50 quid a year. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:49 | |
'So the new owner won't be able to retire any time soon on that, but speaking of grounds...' | 0:34:49 | 0:34:56 | |
Well, a real surprise. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
The flat comes with a really huge amount of land. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
It stretches all the way down the side of the building, back here. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
Now maybe this gives us the solution to the problems with the kitchen and bathroom. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
You could build some extension. It would have to be single storey. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:18 | |
Or it's a fantastic parking space. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
When it's residents only parking, that's a real bonus. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
'For a guide price of £95,000 this may not have been a bad investment, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
'as long as there's enough money in the kitty for those renovations.' | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
'Will a local estate agent agree? | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
'I invited one along to get a second opinion.' | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
The property has a lot of potential. Obviously, it does need a fair amount of money spent on it, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:52 | |
but I think once completed | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
it will be an attractive option for young professionals, families, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
and retired couples. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
'Sounds good, so hopefully a healthy return here.' | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
This property, on completion of its improvements, will be very competitive and attractive for rent. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:12 | |
It will rent for in the region of £825-£850 per calendar month. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
'And if resale was on the cards?' | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
The property would sell for in the region of £135,000-£145,000. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:25 | |
So there you go. An interesting one. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
You can't buy this one, but you can buy this one. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
It's a good flat, it needs some work doing to it and bear in mind that £95,000 guide price | 0:36:32 | 0:36:38 | |
and the fact it's a lovely area. It's a great investment opportunity. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
Let's see it go under the hammer. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
Where are you going to start me on that one? We've got 95 plus. It's got to be worth more. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:56 | |
Start me where you will. Can I see 95,000? 80? £80,000 bid. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
80,000 I've got. 85,000 do I say? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
At 85. And at 90. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
And 5. 95. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
With you at 95. Seven I'll take, if it will help. 97 at the back. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
Fill it up to 100? 100,000? 98. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
98. 99? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
99,000 is against you. 99 I have. Bid 100. 100,000 if you like. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
101, I'm obliged. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
I've got 102 at the back. 103 now. 104? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
104. A fresh face in the door. 105 sitting down, if you like. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
110. And 11. And 12? | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
112? One more. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
112? | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
At 111. You've stuck with it, sir. £111,000 I've got. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
12 anywhere else? If not, at £111,000 I will sell for the first time. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
£111,000 for the second... | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
112. A fresh face. 13. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
And 14. And 15. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
And 16? At 15, you're still with it. 116 anywhere else? | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
At £115,000 for the first time. A hundred... 16. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
And 17. And 18? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
At 18? At 18? 117 I'm bid. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
117, then, bid for the first time. 117 for the second time. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
Third and final time at £117,000. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
You've got it, sir. You were tenacious and it's yours. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
'So for £117,000 the new owner of this property is Lawrence. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
'He and his wife already own two other investment properties which they rent out | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
'and they're keen to expand their portfolio. In fact, Lawrence is so serious about this, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:41 | |
'he's given up his job at the council for property developing, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
'but was it really a shrewd move to pay £22,000 over the guide price?' | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
-Tell me why you wanted to buy it. -Well, it's five minutes up the road from me for a start. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:59 | |
And it's... I nearly bought one along the road here, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
which went for £128,000, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
so getting this for 117 I felt was quite a bargain, really. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
'And not only that. Don't forget the bonus of the freehold of the entire building.' | 0:39:10 | 0:39:16 | |
I've always had a slight concern about buying leasehold property, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
where you're never quite sure about maintenance charges | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
and insurance and things like that. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
So having a freehold does make it a lot easier. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
It's a lot more plain sailing as far as I'm concerned. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
-What are you going to do, if anything? -Create a bathroom. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
The little bathroom that's out there at the moment is hopeless. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:48 | |
Some people might put up with that, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
but the sort of people I'm looking for wouldn't. They'd want better. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:56 | |
So my plan is to take a section from the bigger of the two bedrooms | 0:39:56 | 0:40:02 | |
-and turn that into a bathroom. -Oh, really? | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
Then keep the kitchen as it is. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
I might even, because that bathroom is such an awkward space, I might just leave it as it is. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
-Do it up and leave it as a second toilet and shower, which would be a bonus. -Right. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:20 | |
-How much are you going to spend? -If I can spend £15,000 on the renovation, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
that'll leave me with a good profit. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
'Lawrence is no novice at renovations. He used to own a DIY and building merchants. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
'More recently, he worked for the council doing nightshifts, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
'which he has just given up.' | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
# Give it up Baby, give it up... # | 0:40:40 | 0:40:46 | |
'Lawrence plans to project manage this full-time and do much of the work himself.' | 0:40:46 | 0:40:53 | |
-What will that enable you to do, giving up your job? -I can finish this quicker. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
I'm not very quick at doing this and I intend to do most of it myself. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
Whereas it would have taken me 4 or 5 months, I hope to do it in 3. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
And that means I can buy something else before the end of the year. So I'll get two in this year. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:13 | |
-Then hopefully, three the year after that. -Right. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
It's quite good, quite exciting. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
'Lawrence isn't going to waste any time cracking on.' | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
# Let's get it started Let's get it started in here | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
# Let's get it started... # | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
-This afternoon, really. -Really? -I shall start ripping things out. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
-That's the fun bit. -It is. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
And the tiles on the ceiling... | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
-Lovely touch(!) Should I get rid of those? -I think you should. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
# Let's get it started | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
# Let's get it started in here Let's get it started... # | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
All credit to Lawrence. It's never easy to give up a job, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
no matter how excited you are about a new direction in life, but he's picked a great project. | 0:41:54 | 0:42:01 | |
I am a bit concerned about that kitchen and bathroom. I don't know what he'll do. Find out later. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:08 | |
Whatever the economic climate, our buyers had budgets to stick to and work to do. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
-So did they breeze through the renovations or have to weather a storm or two? -Let's find out. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:23 | |
'This is Morden in Surrey, approximately 10 miles from central London. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:30 | |
'Close to the Tube station, this four-room flat, above a commercial unit, sold for £70,000. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:38 | |
'The entrance is round the back and there's only a 20-year lease. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
'That didn't put Bob and Chris off and this father and son team | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
'are used to doing things together.' | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
On Saturday we play football. Chris is captain, I'm the manager. We row like cat and dog there. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:57 | |
There'll be no difference. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
'Overall, the flat was in good condition and just needed some decoration. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:05 | |
'The team have painted it in crowd-pleasing neutral colours | 0:43:05 | 0:43:11 | |
'and there's that floor - more of a road to nowhere than the cup final! | 0:43:11 | 0:43:16 | |
'So do they think they worked well together?' | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
-We do make a good team, I think. -I think we do. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
Yeah... It's knowing... It's knowing what your strengths are. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
I have no strengths in the building line at all. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
My background is financial. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
That's what I bring to the party. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
-And Chris brings building expertise. -More hands on. -Yeah. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
# I'll tell you what we're gonna do We'll have a party for two... # | 0:43:43 | 0:43:48 | |
'As with their roles on the football pitch, the lines are well drawn. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
'Bob is not the builder in this case, but the manager, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
'and his son, Chris, IS the builder. Have they scored a winner here? Let's go to the kitchen, | 0:43:56 | 0:44:02 | |
'like all good partygoers, and find out.' | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
In the kitchen, we've replaced the worktops, put all new cupboards in, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
base units and wall units. We've put in an oven. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
And here we've taken a wall down for the boiler. It really works well. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:23 | |
'Removing the cupboard walls has made it seem so much more spacious. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
'And, thankfully, that road's been removed from the floor so it's no longer like a child's playroom.' | 0:44:30 | 0:44:36 | |
'1-0 to Bob and Chris.' | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
All the work was done by myself. For the electrics and gas, I got in qualified guys. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:48 | |
I also had some mates helping me out with the painting at mates' rates, so it kept the cost down. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:55 | |
My role during the renovation is that I take my plastic card to the cash point | 0:44:55 | 0:45:01 | |
and put in the number, get out cash, hand it to Chris and that's my role summed up. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:07 | |
'With Bob's background in finance, he's in charge of the cash card. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:12 | |
'The reins on the budget must have been pretty tight.' | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
Our original budget was just over £4,000. Not much thought went into it | 0:45:16 | 0:45:21 | |
but we've spent just approximately £5,000. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
'That's an extra 25% on the original budget, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
'but does include a fridge freezer and washing machine, which haven't yet been installed. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:36 | |
-'Was there a similar run on the timescale?' -It's taken up to seven weeks, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:42 | |
but we both had swine flu so that laid us up for a week or we'd have had it done in six. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:49 | |
'Phew! They certainly stepped up to the mark, despite that swine flu. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:55 | |
'The flat came with a 20-year lease, which you can only extend at a price after owning it for two years. | 0:45:55 | 0:46:01 | |
'If you're renting it out, it may not be worth doing.' | 0:46:01 | 0:46:06 | |
I do think we will be renewing the lease in two years' time, but it will depend how much they ask for. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:14 | |
'Bob and Chris have already found a tenant to move in who will pay £850 per calendar month. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:21 | |
'But just to make sure they're shooting in the right direction | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
'we invited two local estate agents to take a look.' | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
My first impressions of the flat are that it's very spacious | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
and it's located conveniently for the Tube. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
The standard of finish in the flat is good. It's not top end, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
but it's good enough for what the property is. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
They've done exactly the right thing. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
They've kept everything they can keep in the bathroom, shower room area | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
and they've done most of their work in renovating the kitchen, which was neglected. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:58 | |
'It looks as though these beginners have done all the right things, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
'but surely it won't all be easy?' | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
There is a short lease and that is a big problem when you come to re-sell. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
It will only allow cash buyers really to be interested in it. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
The lease of 20-odd years is a big problem if they were selling. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
It's no problem if they rent. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
'If they did sell it on in its current state, how much could they expect?' | 0:47:22 | 0:47:27 | |
I would market the property with its current short lease at £110,000. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
A lot of buyers will be very wary of this type of lease age. You can't fix a price. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:38 | |
We always wanted it as a rental property, so that doesn't really interest us. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:44 | |
'Ah, they say that now, but what if the lease was longer?' | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
If the property had a long lease, I would market it for £160,000. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
If the lease was renewed to an acceptable level, | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
you could have an asking price of £160,000-£165,000. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:02 | |
I think that's very good! | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
Em, I'd be ecstatic. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
That actually would put... That might make us think about selling! | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
'They bought the flat for £70,000 and spent around £5,000 on the renovation, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:19 | |
'so those valuations are £85,000-£90,000 over their spend. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
'But don't get too excited. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
'It could cost around £50,000 or even more to extend that lease in two years' time. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:32 | |
'Bob and Chris have lined up a tenant who will be paying £850 a month. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:38 | |
'Is that about the right amount?' | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
This property would rent for £750 per calendar month. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
If you put this on for renting on the basis of 2/3 bedrooms, | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
you would get a good level of interest around £900-£1,000 a month. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
'The latter estimate would mean a handsome yield of 12%-16%. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:58 | |
'They must be pleased about that.' | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
-I think we'd go with the guy who said £1,000 per month. -Yeah! Can you get him back? | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
No, we're very happy with the amount of money we're getting off the guy who's moving in. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:12 | |
Christopher knows the chap. There's got to be a value to that, knowing the person. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:19 | |
'The team have had quite a good result here, but how have they found working together?' | 0:49:19 | 0:49:25 | |
I can't say I've enjoyed working because I haven't done much work, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
but I've enjoyed going to the cash machine and giving him money and watching the results. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:35 | |
Not enough - that's what you want to say! I've enjoyed the results. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
-It's a good job and the values you've just given us make it even better. -Cheers, Dad. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:46 | |
'This ground-floor flat in Bexleyheath came complete with the freehold for the entire building. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:03 | |
'Property developer Lawrence bought it at auction for £117,000, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
'a whopping £22,000 over the guide price. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:12 | |
'But Lawrence was pleased with his purchase.' | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
I nearly bought one along the road which went for £128,000, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
so getting this for 117 I felt was quite a bargain. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
'Having bought and renovated two previous properties, Lawrence took the plunge.' | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
'He gave up his job with the local council to concentrate on renovating this flat full-time. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:38 | |
'He aimed to save money by doing the work and to rent out the property within three months.' | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
'He's not quite managed that.' | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
Originally, I was looking at three months. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
It was just going to be extreme decorating rather than rebuilding, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
but it's turned into a major rebuild. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
'Lawrence once owned a builders merchants, so knew about renovation, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:15 | |
'but this turned out to be a bigger challenge than he expected. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
'However, he was determined to sort it all out.' | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
The main problem, I think, was | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
that once I started to take the floorboards up - | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
cos there were obvious damp problems in the front of the house - | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
I found all the woodworm. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
I put my foot through the floor in one place, it was so bad. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
That on top of the damp meant I had to take all the floors up, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:44 | |
the kitchen floor had to be dug up. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
That's taken the extra time. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
'But you can't keep a good man down.' | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
# I pick myself up | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
# I dust myself off Start all over again... # | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
'Having sorted the extensive wood problems, Lawrence had the flat completely rewired, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:04 | |
'installed a central heating system and there are new drains for a new bathroom.' | 0:52:04 | 0:52:10 | |
This is the old second bedroom. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
And we wanted to create a new bathroom because the old one was just a shower and a toilet, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:19 | |
hardly any room in it at all. So what we've done is put a stud wall in here, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:25 | |
taken four foot off this bedroom, but still leaving a nice size. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:30 | |
You could get a double bed in there. Then we created this new bathroom | 0:52:30 | 0:52:35 | |
with a hand basin, toilet here | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
and the bath which will have a shower above it. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
Tiled floor, tiled walls. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
It's going to be quite nice. Quite a big improvement. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
-'And that's not all.' -Originally, the kitchen floor was a foot down from where it is now. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:54 | |
And it was very, very damp so we had to dig it out anyway. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
We decided to raise the floor up, level with the lounge and dining room. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
That's made it a lot nicer in here. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
We've brought the ceiling down a bit so that can be insulated as well. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
We've got insulation under the floor. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
And, being raised, we can take all the services underneath - | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
drains, waste from the sink and the washing machine. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:23 | |
We're about ready now. Just the finished plastering to be done, tile the floor, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:28 | |
and put the units in. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
And this bit shouldn't take us much longer now at all. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
'So Lawrence didn't hit his time deadlines, but is he within budget?' | 0:53:35 | 0:53:40 | |
The original budget was £15,000, but I've kept it down. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
It's going to be about £18,000 in the end. So I think by doing a lot of the work myself, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:51 | |
with the damp and the woodworm, that's kept it right down. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:57 | |
'That's pretty good going. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
'He paid £117,000 at auction then spent a further £18,000 on the renovations. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:05 | |
'So Lawrence's total outlay so far is £135,000.' | 0:54:05 | 0:54:11 | |
'Was it money well spent?' | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
It's a decent-sized property. A lot to be done. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
The layout will work a lot better than the original layout. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
I think the room alterations are very beneficial. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
He's moved the bathroom between the two bedrooms. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
That's very convenient for the bedrooms. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
You have the utility room, a decent-sized kitchen. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
It'll be an attractive bathroom and both bedrooms will be good, double-sized bedrooms. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:51 | |
'Lawrence bought the flat as an investment and he's keen to rent it out.' | 0:54:51 | 0:54:57 | |
If it's finished to a good standard, it'll rent out at approximately £825-£850 per calendar month. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:04 | |
The rental value would be around £800-£850 per calendar month. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
It's about what I expected. I was hoping to put it on for £850 and possibly take £825. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:15 | |
'I'd be interested in the value of the property' | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
because I could be tempted to sell! | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
'Well, let's just dangle that carrot.' | 0:55:23 | 0:55:28 | |
If finished to a high standard, it'll sell in the region of £170,000-£180,000. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:35 | |
Finished to a good standard, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
I think the resale value would be somewhere around the £175,000-£185,000 mark. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:44 | |
The resale value was more than I thought and I could possibly be tempted to sell it | 0:55:44 | 0:55:49 | |
if I got near the 180. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
'If he did bite the bullet and put the flat on the market, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
'Lawrence could be looking at a healthy profit of anything up to £50,000, minus tax and expenses.' | 0:55:56 | 0:56:03 | |
If I rent this property out, I've got to get a mortgage on it | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
to get money to go back to auction. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
And the mortgage market is very difficult at the moment, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
which is why I might consider re-selling it and using the money that way. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:20 | |
'Well, that's a turnaround, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
'but the key to successful property developing is being open to change.' | 0:56:22 | 0:56:28 | |
I've certainly learnt a lot. It'll help with the next property. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
I know what to expect much more now. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
But I've quite enjoyed doing it. It's taken longer than I wanted, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
but on the whole it's just nice to create something and see the results at the end. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:46 | |
-That's it for today. -But we'll be back with more homes under the hammer from around the country. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:55 | |
-We'll see you then. -Goodbye. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
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