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-Welcome to the show.

-Despite all the doom and gloom,

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the property market is still a tempting place to invest your money.

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Yes, and if you are cautious and do your research,

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there are still bargains to be found buying your home under the hammer.

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Now, if you are looking for variety

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and good value, then the auction may be for you.

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So, here are the properties that lured our buyers on today's show.

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Property development is unpredictable but, in Kent,

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confidence seems high.

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I feel the risk of us losing money here is small or non-existent.

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And, in a Stoke three bed with huge problems, well,

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let's just say a bit of luck might help.

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I was going to say, "Touch wood," but there's none left, is there?

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These properties have been sold at auction.

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We'll find out who bought them and what they paid for them

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when they went under the hammer.

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Sold!

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We are in the Kent town of Chatham.

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This part of town is all very suburban and leafy.

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You've got a kids play area and bowling green over there.

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A school just down the road and, um, a graveyard to my left.

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Now, that will put some buyers off,

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although the way I look at it is that you've got a quiet,

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well maintained space right next door to your home.

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Because the house is just here.

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It's got three bedrooms and a guide price of 180-185,000.

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# All I want is a quiet place to live. #

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Intriguingly,

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the property lot comes with an extra little annexe building.

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But more of that later.

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I'm not expecting loads of hidden features in this one

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due to the period of the property. But look at all this space. Wow!

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Really nice, wide hallway.

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And a rather luminous green kitchen, don't you think?

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But it's a great area, it overlooks that pretty garden.

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You've got a second reception room here which of course you could knock

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these two into one and have one big kitchen, open plan breakfast room.

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Wonderful for families.

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And then you've got the sitting room at the front of the property.

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You've got to get rid of these horrible polystyrene tiles,

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get them all down, they are a fire hazard.

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But my first impressions of this property? I really, really like it.

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So far, no old world charm worth keeping.

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But the two bedrooms upstairs are also a good size.

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The bathroom and separate loo are pretty dated.

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Now, I said there were two bedrooms, but there is a third room up there.

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I've always wanted a property with a pool.

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But this isn't exactly what I had in mind.

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How is this for an added bonus?

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I bet they were CUEING up for this one.

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# I need a hot shot... #

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Well, it's worth remembering that anything inside the house

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when the hammer falls at auction is yours.

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So, that means this pool table as well.

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Although I think there is a better home for it. In the little annexe.

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Wow! This is brilliant!

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As a mum, straightaway I'm thinking, kids playroom,

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my children would love this.

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They would be getting that pool table straight into this room

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for starters.

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But this will certainly add value to a property like that.

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And of course, don't forget, you could even

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rent this out as a separate entity entirely.

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This is a decent sized plot and I'm wondering

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if you could make more of it.

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How about building a double height extension to the left,

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with the garages extending to the right where the walkway is

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and splitting the property in the middle to create a pair of semis?!

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I have seen it done before, very successfully.

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And it could be a way of increasing your return.

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Of course, it would all be down to planning.

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And whether the numbers stack up.

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All in all, I reckon for the £180-£185,000 guide price,

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there are some really interesting possibilities here.

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What does a local agent think of this property?

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It's got everything it needs.

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I don't think you need to go into the building side of things.

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I think it's more cosmetic, get it tidied up, get it nice,

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get it ready and sell it.

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I honestly believe that if it's done to a good standard,

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you could command £275,000 for the whole lot once done.

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And what if it was put on the rental market?

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I believe that you'd get between £950 and £1,000 per calendar month.

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This isn't a standard suburban three bed house.

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I think it's an exciting opportunity to do something different

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with all the added extras you have here.

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Or, if that doesn't appeal, refurb and sell on for a decent profit.

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Let's see who went for it at the auction.

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Lot, 13, detached house for improvement.

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Start me where you will, 170 will get it on the way.

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£170,000 bid on my right. I have 170, I have 172. I'm obliged.

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172. And five. 175, and seven. And seven. 178, I'm obliged.

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178 and nine. 179, thank you. 180, in the front. Fresh place.

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181 sitting down, 182. 182 and three.

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And five. 187. 190.

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192, thank you, ladies. 195. 197 I am bid. £200,000, may I say?

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198. 199 for the ladies if you like, 199 may I say?

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First-time then at 198. 199 I'm bid. 200 if you like. 200 I've got.

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At £200,000 I've got for the first time. 200,000 for the second time.

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Third and final time to the gentleman at the back for the third

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and final time at £200,000, you've got it, sir. Well done.

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And that final bid of £200,000 was from Steve on the left.

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And his business partner, Andrew.

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The pair have been working together developing property

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for about a year now.

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With Andrew the builder, on the right, originally from Poland

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and Steve the spreadsheet and money man.

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Steve and Andrew, congratulations.

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So, how did you guys end up in Chatham?

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Well, we came here via the auction room.

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Looking for a house to do up

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and we were struggling with the estate agents.

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So, we thought we'd look at the auction route.

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What I love about it of course is that little annexe.

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That is like a real bonus to this property.

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Yeah, that's fascinating

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because in the auction catalogue there was no sign behind the hedge

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of either the garage on one end of the house or the link

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between the pitched roof annexe and the main house.

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We really think we can do something with that.

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I think you have really got to convert that into some

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sort of living space. Granny annexe, Nanny annexe, playroom.

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What about the sort of uncovered... Well, it is covered, the walkway,

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but it's very open to the elements.

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Would you try and make that an integral part of the property?

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What we'd really like to do is turn the front door to face the front.

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So, put a new cavity wall across the front of that walkway,

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put the front door onto it and then use that as a corridor to link

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the main house and the annexe together.

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I'm focused on talking about the annexe,

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what about the main centre of the property,

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what are you going to do to turn it around?

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The rooms are going to stay as they are.

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Starting from the top floor.

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We will have two double bedrooms and one single bedroom.

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The bathroom and the toilet are going to be changed.

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Where you have a dividing wall, that's going to come down and we're

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going to move the main entrance wall into the bathroom forward.

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So, you will have one big toilet/bathroom,

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family bathroom upstairs.

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We find that there is no need to put an extra en-suite.

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Although we had an idea to make an en-suite but probably

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because it's a two-bedroom... I mean, 2+1, three-bedroom house.

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-There is no need for an extra bathroom upstairs.

-Hold on a minute.

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-It's a two-bedroom and one pool room.

-Yes, there is that.

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I need to ask you this question. What is the budget?

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The budget here is to try and get the house done for about £30,000.

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-OK, and your timescale?

-Timescale, typically, what?

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I think it will be between eight to ten weeks.

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What would your top valuation of this property be, once it's

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done up, looking fabulous.

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-We reckon we can achieve a price between 300 and £320,000.

-Really?

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-Yes.

-Wow.

-Without doing any extension work.

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And how do you feel about that?

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I feel the risk of us losing money here is small or non-existent.

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And so I am seeing anything 260 and upwards would be

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a result in the right direction.

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Guys, good luck with this project. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

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Well, we have our fingers crossed, that's the main thing.

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-Lovely to meet you, good luck.

-Thanks.

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Well, Steve and Andrew will make this place work, I'm sure of it.

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But will they tip the value over 300 grand?

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There is only one way to find out. Join us later in the show.

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We are in Bradeley, Stoke-on-Trent.

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So, what am I here to see? Well, it's a three bed mid-terrace.

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In this fairly attractive row of similar properties.

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I like the brick built frontage. And from the outside, this is it.

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Looks pretty good. The guide price of £40,000 plus.

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Hm. Sounds suspiciously low.

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So, let's investigate what we have.

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The corridor here, I mean, I don't like that as a layout.

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It feels a bit claustrophobic the moment you come through

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the front door.

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Not even going to go there for a second.

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But through here into your main sort of living area

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and this is actually quite a nice space.

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It's got this dual aspect which is always good.

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Hm. We'll come back to that. Onwards through here

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is your kitchen and I think onwards through to a bathroom.

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I'm just going to go upstairs.

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Well, up here, the good news is, there is a bathroom and a sink.

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The bad news is, there is no loo. So, that's not ideal.

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I think you've also stolen space from the bedrooms

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because it does actually feel a little bit cramped.

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The good news again though is that it seems that the majority,

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if not all of the walls are actually stud partition.

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Not that difficult to take down and rejig the layout up here.

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And I think that with a bit of careful thought, you could

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make it much better than it is.

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OK, nothing else for it. Back downstairs.

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Well, I can't get away with it any longer, it is

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time to address the elephant in the room, as they say.

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The obvious thing with this property which is clearly pretty bad.

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This is one of the most incredible examples of dry rot

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I have ever seen in a house.

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It's caused by water and a combination of that

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and an enclosed space, as in underneath these floorboards.

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The problem with dry rot is, those tendrils,

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they stretch everywhere, they go through wood,

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they go through concrete, they are a disaster, as you can see.

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It's expensive to put right

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and it needs to be done properly otherwise it comes back.

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# My world is crumbling My world is crumbling. #

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I'd get a survey done before I even thought of buying this

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property to find out the extent of the infestation.

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Maybe outside will cheer me up.

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Well, there is a good sized back garden to the property

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and it would seem even bigger

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if you got rid of or trimmed back at least that privet hedge.

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But another bit of really good news is at the back here there is

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actually a rear access.

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So, pretty much like other people have done,

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put a garage in here, gets your car off the road.

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Yeah, a nice additional bonus.

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What will a local estate agent make of this crumbly terrace?

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In a nice order, this could be somewhere around £85-£90,000.

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OK, so that is the potential value, what could the rental income be?

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In a good condition, I'd place this on to the rental market

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somewhere between £400 and £425 per calendar month.

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Well, it's sometimes said that mid-terraced

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properties are a safe bet.

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Since as long as the ones on either side are all right,

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how bad can the one in the middle be?

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Well, this is a case in point of that theory being complete rubbish.

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Because it is horrendous. As we've seen.

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Still, as long as you get it at the right price,

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it could still be a good investment.

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Let's see who went for it under the hammer.

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Lot 53. A large mid-townhouse, first floor bathroom. What's this?

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35 to start me on this one.

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35 bid, thank you. At £35,000. 35,000. I'll say 38. Can we say 38?

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38 bid. £38,000. 40?

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A ding dong battle got underway for this property

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and we rejoin the auction with the bid standing at 45,000.

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New bidder, 45. 45 and a half. 46.

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46 and a half. 47. 47 and a half.

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48. 48.

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49. 50.

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50. No?

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At £50,000, standing there, then. At 50,000. 51 anywhere else?

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At £50,000 then for the first time. New bidder, 51. 52?

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52. 53. No? 53,000, gentleman in the blue T-shirt.

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Just wave again so there's no mistake. Thank you.

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£53,000 then all done now.

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At £53,000 once, £53,000 twice.

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Third and last time at £53,000, your lot, sir, well done.

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That final bid of £53,000 was made by Clint. He and his wife Kerry own

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a stud farm for Welsh cob horses.

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And they have just finished renovation work on their own home.

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I met the couple to find out more.

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-Clint, Kerry. Great to meet you both.

-And you.

-Thank you.

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-Please tell me you looked at this house before you bought it?

-No.

-No.

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Argh!

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The typical mistake.

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Right, why?

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We decided on the way that we were going to pay about 50,000.

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I was working under the assumption that I needed to

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-spend about 10 on it, resell it for about 75, not a bad profit.

-Oh, no!

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-The actual auction, I stopped on our limit of 50,000.

-Right.

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So, I just put my hand at 51.

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I then got a kick off me wife to say, "What are you doing?"

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Somebody went 52, I went 53 and we bought it.

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After then I thought to myself, "That was a good price"

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And then I thought, "Why was it a good price?"

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Now, it's bad enough that they didn't view the property

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beforehand, but guess what else they didn't do? Yep, that's right.

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They didn't read the legal pack.

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If they had, they would have spotted information that said they had to

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pay the seller's fees, upping their total spend thus far to £56,000.

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And, by the way, the pack also mentioned the dry rot.

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So, what's the plan to deal with that?

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Well, everything is going to be ripped out.

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All the wood is coming out, obviously.

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Treat the walls and the floors with the fungal disinfectant, basically.

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New stairs going in, so that will eliminate the dry rot.

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We've looked up, it's only travelled halfway up the stairs.

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So, there is no dry rot upstairs.

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Clint and Kerry intend to tackle the dry rot themselves.

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On a tight budget, fair enough.

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Though I would always recommend getting in the experts

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because, if you don't get it right, it will return.

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If you do decide to treat it yourself,

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bear in mind that you should go past where you think the dry rot ends

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because it travels and never replace boards or skirting or whatever

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with untreated wood.

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Otherwise you will just be inviting trouble.

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And of course, you need to find the source of the damp that

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caused the problem in the first place.

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You are now the proud owners. What are you going to do?

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Just basically refurbish the lot.

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We are going to be knocking some walls out,

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extending the kitchen, extending the rooms upstairs.

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How much extra is it going to cost you to put right all

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-the problems which you didn't know about?

-No extra, really.

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-What you do mean, no extra?

-We were planning on spending 10,000.

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-Right.

-So, whether it meant 10,000, we were just going to come in

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and we'd have better fixings, you know,

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the finishing product or 10,000, meaning the work we've got to do.

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And we're going to be doing the work ourselves.

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So, we don't need to get anybody else in.

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-You'll then potentially make some money, won't you?

-Yeah, yeah.

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It stands at 56 now. If we spend 10,000 on it, that's 66.

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And obviously then depending on what it's valued at when it's finished.

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We plan on having it done in about 10 weeks.

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I was going to say, "touch wood," but there's none left, is there?

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-Congratulations. Good luck with it.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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Well, I think Kerry and Clint

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recognise that they did break every single rule in

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the book buying this place, but you've got to love their attitude.

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And it seems like they have an action plan to sort it out.

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There is only one big question for Kerry and Clint.

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Are you feeling lucky?

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Well, time has simply flown by.

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Have our buyers managed to make progress with their properties?

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Let's go back and check out what's happened.

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We are now returning to the Kent town of Chatham,

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where earlier in the programme this three bedroomed detached

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property adjacent to a graveyard was bought for £200,000 by

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Steve, on the left, and Andrew, who are based in Surrey.

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Andrew is originally from Poland and he does the building work,

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while Steve is an ex-lawyer, looking after the finances.

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They saw great potential for the extra building on the site.

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Pretty much the rooms are going to stay as they are.

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Starting from the top floor.

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We will have two double bedrooms, one single bedroom.

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Hold on a minute, it's a two bedroom and one pool room.

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Yes, there is that.

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They were going to sell and hope to pocket a profit

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and they hope their budget of 30,000 wouldn't leave them SNOOKERED.

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They set a timescale of about eight to ten weeks.

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Now it's eight months later and next to the quietest part of town,

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there is now definitely something to shout about.

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The property has replacement windows throughout,

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but the living room is only the beginning.

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Because the former dining room and kitchen have been knocked into one.

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The utility room will be placed in what used to be the store shed,

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while the annexe is going to be linked to the main house

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by creating a corridor with a parallel wall.

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I thought that little annexe was intriguing and offered

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tonnes of possibilities, so what did they do with it in the end?

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We've gone for these high-level windows instead of

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the previous single-glazed metal windows,

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and we've put a good cloakroom bathroom over on this side.

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So, whoever buys this house can

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either use it as a bedroom or as another living room.

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I think it's a really elegant and flexible solution.

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A terrace with French windows is underway

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and the other foundations are the beginning of a garden room,

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which they have decided is a cost effective addition.

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Back inside the main house, the former bathroom and loo

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have been knocked into one well-equipped family bathroom.

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The pool table's also gone

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and the three bedrooms have been tastefully redecorated.

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There's still the garden to landscape, and

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with the additional work on the extension,

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and with the high-level finish kitchen,

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I wonder what effect all of that has had

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on their original £30,000 budget.

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We spent around £40,000 - perhaps a little above in the end,

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but we're still very comfortable that what we've spent makes good

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sense for this particular house.

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With the £200,000 they spent at auction,

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it takes the total investment to £240,000.

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And have the plans remained the same?

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Yes, the plan is to sell the house.

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Agents, from time to time, like to try to persuade us to rent them,

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but our business is selling them

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and moving on to renovate the next.

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What will these two local estate agents make of the renovation work?

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Now, I know they don't want to let the house out but,

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out of interest, how much could this fetch on the rental market?

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I predict a rental income of £1,400 per calendar month.

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I think if the property was rented out,

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they would achieve around £1,500 per calendar month.

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Well, that's an impressive yield of 7%.

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And what about that all-important resale figure?

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Do the agents think the property would be worth

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more than the £240,000 that Andrew and Steve have invested here?

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I would value this property for £300,000-£330,000.

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We'd aim to sell this property for £365,000.

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Well, a real disparity in the valuations there.

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One valuation would give us a £60,000 profit,

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while the other would produce a whacking £125,000.

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Minus all the usual taxes and expenses.

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£365,000 is a very good achievement,

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but I think the £350,000 mark is where we're going to land.

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This has been the fifth property

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that Andrew and Steve have refurbished.

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Their development business is going well.

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So, what's next?

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We've got another house we're working on already,

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which is an even bigger project than this one.

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Potentially including some new development in the garden as well.

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But at the moment, unless Andy has different ideas, we carry on.

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So, from a renovation with hardly any problems,

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to one here in Bradeley, Stoke with...

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Well, more than a few.

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Clint and his wife, Kerry, paid £53,000.

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Clint was named after the Dirty Harry star, Clint Eastwood,

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but I'm afraid he didn't "Make my day" when we met.

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Please tell me you looked at this house before you bought it.

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BOTH: Nope.

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Oh!

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THEY LAUGH

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Hmm. It's no laughing matter because this house was riddled with dry rot

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on the ground floor.

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And I could see it costing Clint

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a fistful of dollars to put it right.

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They both breed horses

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and Clint rebuilds horse boxes,

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so his practical skills are going to come in handy.

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They set a budget of £10,000

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and reckoned it would take a couple of months.

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MUSIC: Turn The Tide by Johnny Hates Jazz

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Well, it's now five months later

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and we've returned to check on the progress.

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The wall between the hall and the living room

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has been removed.

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They waved goodbye to the rotten floor,

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replacing it with these rippling tiles,

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a bit like the tide on a beach.

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# I know we can turn the tide

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# Together we can change the way things are... #

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And the house has washed up lots of other treasures.

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With so much dry rot to tackle,

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it meant the floor could be completely opened up.

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OK, what we've done in here is,

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we've taken down the dividing wall.

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Which has taken away the dingy corridor

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that was leading in from the front door

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and has given us a lovely open space.

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Removing the infected timbers was only half the story.

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The house was stripped right back and the walls were treated

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with a fungicidal wash to prevent any future problems.

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Only then, could the impressive lay out changes begin.

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OK, what we've done is we've taken a wall out behind us,

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to open up the kitchen up to give us the kitchen dining room now.

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An open flow.

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There was two walls at the end there,

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we've taken the collage wall out

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and the downstairs toilet out.

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We've had to put the toilet upstairs into the bathroom.

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It was the smallest bathroom I've seen,

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so that meant us moving the dividing wall.

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It made one of the bedrooms a little bit smaller,

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but we've got a nice big bathroom...

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A bigger bathroom now.

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With help from qualified experts,

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the house now has new central heating,

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and there's new lighting and the plumbing has been changed.

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It was hard work cos we've both got full time jobs,

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so it was a case of coming down here in the evenings

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and at weekends.

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In total, it's taken us, with the hours,

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counting up the hours we've actually spent on the house, 12 weeks.

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I wonder what effect it had on their budget.

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We had a budget of £10,000.

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As we got further on through the project,

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we upped the standard a bit, didn't we?

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Which meant the glass balustrade was coming in,

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the shinier tiles, we were going to have, so, yeah.

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So, we spent £12,000 so, yeah, we're really chuffed with it, yeah.

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Clint and Kerry, if you remember,

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didn't read the legal pack and the seller's fees cost them £3,000

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on top of their bid, bringing the auction total to £56,000.

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I'm really not surprised they went over that £10,000 budget

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but that brings their total spend now to £68,000.

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We ask two local estate agents to come along and give their opinions.

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I'm worried they're almost at the price they were looking to sell for.

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Have they done enough to take it to a higher value?

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Much improved from the last time I was in the property.

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Nice new kitchen in there.

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Nice new bathroom and fitments.

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My first impressions were that the vendors of the property have

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spent a lot of time on the attention to detail.

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With unique flooring, it's quite a selling point.

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Well, the plan has always been to sell.

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But how much rental income could the property generate,

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if Clint and Kerry did have a change of plan?

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The rental value would be £495 per calendar month.

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If I was going to place this on the rental market,

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I'd be asking somewhere around £500 per calendar month.

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And that's a yield of around 9%. Not a bad return.

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How about that all important value on the resale market?

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Will they get their money back?

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They've invested £68,000.

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Will they make their target profit of around £10,000?

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Given the level of finish and detail on the property,

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I'd place this on the market for £94,950.

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If I was in the owner's shoes, at the moment,

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I'd be looking to get this back on the market and hopefully achieve

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somewhere around £100,000.

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Whoa! A result!

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That would mean a possible profit

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of around £27,000-£32,000

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before taxes and expenses.

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In fact, the couple have already had their own valuation done

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and they're going to put it on the market for around £110,000.

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Despite all the trials and tribulations,

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will they do another property?

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Yeah, well, hopefully we're going to sell this

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and get another one straight away.

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Well, whether it's a bungalow, a mansion or a piece of land.

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We'll be here to see what happens to it on Homes Under The Hammer.

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So, make sure you join us next time.

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-Goodbye for now.

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