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Hello. Welcome to the show.

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We've both been dealing in property for many years now

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and have witnessed the fluctuations in the market.

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But through it all, we remain convinced of one thing.

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You can pick up some interesting buys at the auction.

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We've always been really excited by the concept of buying at auction.

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And it's true - the speed, the excitement

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and the chance for a real bargain make it a thing to try.

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So let's find out what got our buyers hot under the collar

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on today's show.

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This three-bed mid-terrace in Walthamstow

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needs a sorcerer's touch to shine.

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How are you going to work THAT into your budget?

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My husband, he knows some magics.

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And this barn in Cornwall, offers a touch of the tropical.

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You've even got your own palm trees.

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All I need now is a cocktail. Oh, thank you.

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These properties have been sold at auction.

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We find out who bought them and for how much

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when they went under the hammer.

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Well, I might be in east London today,

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but this feels more like a village than part of a big metropolis.

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Walthamstow's E17 postcode was once most famous

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for the name of a popular 1990s boyband

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with questionable taste in headgear.

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Now, however, it's a desirable location to live,

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with plenty of young families priced out of east and north London,

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heading over to take advantage of its burgeoning cafe culture

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and excellent tube links into town.

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# It's all right

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# It's all right

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# It's all right

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# It's really all right

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# It's all... #

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The property I'm here to see is more of a bus ride than a stroll

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to the tube, but it's in a more affordable

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part of the postcode. And I really like this little

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turn of the road which means you've got off-street parking here.

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The house itself is this three-bedroom terrace

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and it had a guide price of £190,000.

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And like this area, this 1950s, ex-local-authority property

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looks all right too.

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# ..It's all right

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# It's all right

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# It's all right... #

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Ooh, now, interestingly, you've got a lot of space outside,

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and you walk in, and it's a lot smaller than you would think.

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It certainly needs an overhaul. Very dated indeed.

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There's only one reception room on the downstairs floor

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and a kitchen, again very disappointing

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although it's quite a good size - almost the same size as next door.

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What's round here?

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Oh, we've got a downstairs bathroom.

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I'd like to think we could shift that upstairs and create more space.

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Therefore you would be able to have a little dining area around here.

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Hopefully, fingers crossed, we can do that.

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# With a little luck

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# With a little luck

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# We could shake it up

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# With a little luck

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# Oh, yeah... #

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So let's investigate up here.

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Well, there is a bedroom with a boiler there.

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I think I'd try and relocate that.

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Towards the back of the property here, yeah, a good-size double.

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A really nice room.

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And through here... Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yes, look.

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..it's a bathroom. THAT is really good news.

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And you can see all they've done is just pinched

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a little of the bedroom through here.

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I'm really pleased that's upstairs.

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That means downstairs, you can get rid of that bathroom

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and just completely go to town on that living space.

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Well, that's great news.

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The layout of the upstairs is just about an open-and-shut case.

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There's no need to really do anything

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other than upgrade and refurbish.

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Well, if ever there was a reason to buy a property,

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then this is it!

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Look at the size of the garden! It's overgrown, but it's massive.

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It's certainly enough space for an extension, should you want it.

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So with plenty of scope for improvement inside and out,

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it seems this house is brimming with possibilities.

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A local estate agent came along to tell us

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what she thought of this property - guided at £190,000.

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Keeping the existing layout to the first floor,

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I would value this property in the region of £270,000.

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By adding in a loft conversion to this property,

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I would estimate the value to be in the region of £285,000.

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By adding a rear extension to the property and a loft conversion,

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I would estimate the value to be in the region of £300,000.

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So after you've factored in build costs,

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neither extension would add greatly to your potential profit margin.

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It just makes a nice home to live in.

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But what about rental potential?

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The property with its current layout would rent

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in the region of £1,200 per calendar month.

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The property with an extended layout and a loft conversion would rent

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in the region of £1,300 to £1,400 per calendar month.

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So a good value family home in a decent area

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increasing in popularity, with an outstanding garden.

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Let's see who went for it at the auction.

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To lot 20. A three-bed, mid-terraced house

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not far from Walthamstow town.

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190 anywhere?

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190? 190 straightaway at the back.

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195.

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200. 205. 210.

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215. 220.

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225. 230. 235.

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240.

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241.

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242. 243?

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You must do.

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You'll regret it. 243?

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242, on my right at the back.

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243 elsewhere?

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If not, 242 first time. Second time.

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Third and last time. If you're all done...

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-GAVEL BANGS

-Sold - 242 at the back. Well done.

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Wow! For £52,000 over the guide price,

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for £242,000, the new owners of the three-bed house in Walthamstow

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are married couple Kristina and Agris.

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Originally from Estonia, Agris is a plumber,

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and Kristina is a beauty therapist.

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While Agris kept an eye on Albert, I caught up with Kristina

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to find out about their plans for their new purchase.

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-Kristina, congratulations.

-Thank you.

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So tell me all about the story,

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which has led you up to the sale of this property.

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We had another house which we refurbished. We sold it a year ago.

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So where have you been living for the last year,

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if you sold it a year ago?

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We are just renting at the moment. Just in the area.

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-So did you view this prior to auction?

-We've seen it just once.

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In my mind, it was a bit different.

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Ah, so what's it like now you've seen it again?

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A little bit disappointed? Is it better than you expect?

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I'm happy that, for example, we can extend 6m

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on the ground floor of the house, because we have a very big garden.

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So we have this very good opportunity.

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Tell me what you'll do upstairs.

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How are you going to change the space?

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So basically we need one more room

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to make this house like a family house.

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So we're going to put it upstairs to the loft.

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And it's going to be a third room, like maybe a master bedroom upstairs.

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So what sort of budget are you looking at for the work?

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Oh, about 30 or 40.

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30 to 40,000?

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They're quite expensive, loft conversions.

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How are you going to work THAT into your budget?

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My husband he knows some magics.

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He knows some magics? I love that!

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So he's got some sneaky people in the trade that he knows a well.

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-Yeah.

-That always helps.

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# Magic

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# It's a kind of magic... #

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LUCY CHUCKLES

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Magic Agris and his friends in the trade.

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Well, that makes the budget

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and the plans sound a little bit more feasible.

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They have a timescale of three to four months,

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during which Kristina might skip off back to Estonia

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with little Albert to escape the dust and the mess.

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Yes, sensible woman.

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I do have one worry, though - they did pay 52 grand over the guide price.

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Add another £40,000 for renovations.

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Well, then, that would make their total investment go up to £282,000!

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Kristina, it's been lovely meeting you.

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-Good luck with this project.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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So, a family home for Kristina, Agris and lovely little Albert.

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I am so pleased for them.

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And I'm sure they will turn it into a wonderful house.

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You can find out how it goes later in the show.

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Today, I'm in Cornwall in St Day, about two miles from Redruth,

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and what am I here to see? Well, it's a barn with land.

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How much do you think that will cost around here? 200,000, 150,000?

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Maybe 100,000? Nope, the guide price was 50,000 to 80,000 quid.

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St Day is a pretty little village,

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and the position behind the post office off the main street is handy.

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So, that guide price would be good for nearly any plot and barn.

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But this isn't just any old barn, it's a barn that comes

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with full planning permission

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for conversion into a two-bedroom dwelling.

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Now, around here, something like that's going to sell for around

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the £175,000-185,000 mark,

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so suddenly THIS could be a bit of a money-spinner.

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Well, at the moment, you'll have to use your imagination,

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because what you've basically got is a shell.

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But I love some of the original materials in here,

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some of this old wood - it'd be great to have that

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treated for woodworm or whatever, but keep it.

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Similarly with these beams and all this stone.

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The issues you're going to have?

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Damp proofing, both on the floor and the walls,

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services, such as electricity, gas, water.

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Then the actual structure of the building, what's that like?

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It seems pretty solid.

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It's going to take a bit of effort,

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but you could end up with something really, really special.

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There is a second floor I can't access today,

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so there's ample room for two bedrooms.

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But the fun doesn't there - through this little gate

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from the courtyard just in front of the barn here

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leads you through to this fairly sizable garden, so that's good news.

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It gets better, though, because there are two garages there

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and planning permission has been granted.

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It's only outline planning permission,

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but planning permission nevertheless,

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for the creation of another dwelling.

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So suddenly,

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this lot is looking incredibly potentially profitable indeed.

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You've even got your own palm trees.

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All I need now is a cocktail...

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Oh, thank you.

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(It's a milkshake.)

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..and Club Tropicana playing in the background.

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Perfect.

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MUSIC: "Club Tropicana" by Wham!

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Uh, before you go-go, it's reality check time.

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It's all very well, sipping cocktails on the Cornish Riviera.

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But they will have to wait.

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There are a few issues you would need to ponder, like access

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and getting building materials in, for one.

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And there may be a party wall issue to sort out.

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However, for a guide price of between £50,000-£80,000,

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I think it makes a really interesting lot.

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Does the agent who sold it rate the barn and the plans?

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Two-bedroomed properties in St Day

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will typically fetch between £165,000 and £185,000.

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For a property in reasonable spec, you could expect

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somewhere in the region of £750pcm for the rental.

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Let's see who went for this intriguing lot at the auction.

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Lot 76.

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Who's going to kick us off at 80? Straight in, 80?

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Bottom end of the guide, 50. Two.

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50, we're in. 50, we're away.

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52. 54.

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56. 58.

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And 60. And a half.

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And nine. And a half.

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And 60. And a half.

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And 61. And a half.

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62. 62 and a half - or is that 63?

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65 - straight in, 65. Burn you out completely.

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At 65. 65, you're in, sir. Yellow shirt has it. You're in.

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At 65 for the first time.

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At 65 for the second.

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At 65,000, third and final time.

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Selling to you, sir, yellow shirt, at 65,000...

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And out.

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Congratulations.

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That determined bidder who managed to get

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the property for £65,000 is Jeff,

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and Jeff may be more local than most

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because he owns the post office next door.

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-# Stop

-Oh, yes, wait a minute, Mr Postman

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-# Wait

-Wait, Mr Postman... #

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-Congratulations.

-Thank you very much.

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Tell me why you wanted to buy this place, then?

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When my parents bought the property next door,

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back in the '70s,

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my father said, "What about the barn attached to it?"

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And they said, "Well, the local shop is using it,

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"so we can't include it with your deeds."

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So Father said, "Well, OK.

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"If anything comes of it in the future..."

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And over the years, we've still tried to buy it from previous owners,

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but the price was always too much.

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But it's just happened it's come at the right time.

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Jeff bided his time to get the barn, so presumably,

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he's had a long time to think about

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how he's going to put his stamp on it.

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But before we find out his plans...

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I've got to ask, what does your T-shirt mean?

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-"Cornishmen do it dreckley?"

-Yeah.

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Well, it's a little bit slower than Spanish manana.

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It'll get done...eventually.

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But my wife has another phrase that she likes to put on the end -

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"Cornishmen do it dreckley, Cornishwomen want it done NOW."

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THEY LAUGH

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So it'll be interesting who gets their way.

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It certainly will.

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So, what are the plans?

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My mother-in-law thinks it would nice to have an artist's studio upstairs,

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and my wife was saying, "Why can't have we have a workshop downstairs

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"for a local business or something?"

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So I think, initially, we're going for putting the new roof on,

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altering the heights of these ceilings,

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so that there will be more room down here,

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-and then see what the funds will allow us to do in the future.

-Right.

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That's this building here, then.

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What about the garages and the garden?

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-It's a nice little garden there, too, isn't there?

-Yes.

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But there's a neighbour who wants to buy it,

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and he's got a couple of cars, that he can use the garages.

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So that would be an answer, really,

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to a big development happening in, really, a nice, small area.

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-So you might sell it?

-Yes.

-Right.

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Now, will you limit by putting a covenant on the sale,

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what that person can do with the bit of land and those garages?

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Would you stop them building that house?

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That might affect how much I'll get for it.

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It might, but on the other hand, if he ends up building houses there,

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-you're back to square one.

-Yeah.

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I hope Jeff gives this a lot of thought and takes legal advice.

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But whatever happens to the plot and the barn, be it a gallery,

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workshop or a house, he's given himself 12 months to do the work.

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So talk me through the numbers, then.

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The whole lot cost us 65,000.

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Then I shall be spending a total of the same amount to do up this,

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-using the proceeds from the other side...

-Right.

-To do this one up.

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But I'm a bit confused, because you got pressure from the family

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to not convert it into something that people could live in.

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You're talking about working space, workshops and galleries.

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There's only the wife and the mother-in-law!

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Oh, OK, then. I'm sure you'll get away with it, then.

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But I might have to move in myself if they don't agree with it!

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Well, listen, congratulations.

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-Good luck with it, and I look forward to seeing how you get on.

-Thank you very much.

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Well, it really was the obvious thing for Jeff to do,

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to buy this particular auction lot.

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I think he really would have regretted it had he not.

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Although I am a little bit concerned about selling off parts of it so soon,

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because once it's sold, you never know what somebody might do with it.

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And of course,

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there are the arguments that are in store between him and his family.

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How will it all turn out? You can find out later in the show.

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Renovating a property can be a very time-consuming undertaking.

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Especially if things don't go according to plan.

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So let's see if our buyers' dreams got off the drawing board.

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First, we're back in Walthamstow, east London,

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where, earlier in the programme, we met Kristina,

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her husband, Agris, and their little baby, Albert.

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The couple, originally from Estonia,

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had been living in rented accommodation

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after selling their previous house, and this ex-local-authority house

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is where they decided to create a new family home.

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They paid 242,000, which was a whopping 52 grand over

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the guide price.

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The three-bed house needed a lot of vision,

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but that is exactly what this couple have.

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They planned an extension into the huge garden and a loft conversion.

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We came back to see what they'd achieved

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just under five months later.

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And while the front doesn't look any different, just have a look inside.

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Firstly, the couple have taken advantage of that huge garden

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and conjured up this fantastic new kitchen-diner!

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They've also managed to turn that old downstairs bathroom

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into a stylish, new and lovely shower room.

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The dated lounge is now open and family-friendly.

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At the top of the house, a loft conversion means there is

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a lovely, airy, master bedroom.

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So, are they enjoying this fabulous new family home?

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Oh, it's amazing, because now we have

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just a lot of space for the baby as well to run around and a cat.

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It is also easier for me to cook and just to do some stuff.

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If the ground floor and new bedroom weren't spacious enough,

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they've also done a bit of rejigging on the first floor.

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They've turned the rear, smaller bedroom

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into a good-looking family bathroom.

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And the space once claimed by the old bathroom

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has been added to the front bedroom.

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With bedroom two also renovated,

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all these changes mean the house still has three bedrooms,

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but the flow and size of the rooms give the house an airy feel.

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Now the garden. Nice job!

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I personally was in a tent for a month, outside, in the garden!

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And another builder the same,

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but luckily, before the cold came, we already were ready to move in.

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As planned, Kristina and baby Albert

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hotfooted it to Estonia for a nice little break,

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so they did avoid the dust and the nights under canvas.

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Agris has certainly worked his magic on this place,

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but did he work the same trickery on his £30,000 to £40,000 budget?

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We spent around 35, we don't include my work -

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electrician, plumbing, every night supplying materials.

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If you add their 242,000 purchase price

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to that £35,000 refurbishment cost,

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it brings their total spend to 277,000.

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Now, I think they've done well to do so much for that budget.

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But what do two estate agents make of the couple's hard work?

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I would resell the property,

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the price in between £290,000 to £300,000.

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This property could resell for around £350,000 in its present state.

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These two very differing valuations mean that Agris and Kristina

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could make a possible pre-tax profit of between

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£13,000 to £73,000.

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We made this house for ourselves, so it's just great to know that

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we can sell with a profit,

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but now we will stay and live - how long, we don't know.

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Earlier we were in Cornwall

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and the little village of St Day near Redruth,

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where, tucked behind the main road, lay this exciting opportunity.

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It was this barn that came with planning permission

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for conversion into a two-bedroomed house,

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and with it the garages and land which also had permission for

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a separate house to be built.

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Getting this all for £65,000 was Jeff

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who also owns the property next door where he is the local postmaster.

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Jeff reckoned on a 12-month turnaround

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and a budget of £65,000 for the conversion.

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It was 18 months later that we returned to the barn.

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So, was it worth the wait?

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What a barnstorming transformation. The question is -

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after all the different ideas from Jeff, his wife

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and his wife's mother on what the barn should be converted into

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is it a gallery, is it a workshop, is it a home?

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Well, while the existing window has been filled in on the first floor,

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two new windows have been added giving a hint to the biggest

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change here.

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A great-looking kitchen/lounge.

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Well, upstairs was just a wide open space.

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And we've kept it like that, really, we put the kitchen in this side

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with a living accommodation over there

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and also we've got a lovely door leading to the steps,

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cos you can open it like a stable door,

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and I think that's the best thing about what's happened to the barn

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is the character and hopefully somebody will be happy

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to live here for the future.

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And with new granite steps leading up to the kitchen door this

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massive room really functions now as the main reception area

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but as you can guess from the layout so far Jeff has gone for the

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upside-down approach.

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Downstairs we've put the two bedrooms - this is

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a double bedroom. We've got the stairs in the centre

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and the other bedroom at the end underneath the kitchen.

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The main reason for that was that there isn't very much of a view

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and being downstairs they only use it to go to bed so you're

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pulling the curtains so it just makes sense that you aren't

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going to miss out on a view that you can get from upstairs.

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With the shower room also down here and with tenants lined up

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Jeff and his wife finally decided that letting the barn out for

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residential use was the best way for this place to pay for itself.

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But before Jeff could even start the renovation he needed to raise

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the money for the work.

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It's unfortunate I had to sell the garages

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and the land because that's a separate building.

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It had to go cos I couldn't afford to do this financially

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without selling on that part.

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It turned out that there was a hiccup with the existing plans.

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The barn was five feet shorter than the drawings indicated

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and then there were building regulations to contend with.

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Even though the walls are three-foot thick we still,

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because of new building regulations we had to put extra insulation on

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the inside.

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Which, of course, made the inside a little bit smaller again

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so we've had a few issues with the whole thing but, erm,

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very pleased with the way it's turned out so far.

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Jeff saved some valuable space by using underfloor heating

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instead of radiators.

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He used local builders to do the conversion, from installing

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a new roof to insulating the walls and everything in between.

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All told, after all the delays the actual renovation only

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took five months, but Jeff still feels he managed to live up

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to the dreckley motto.

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Yeah, I think when you go into building

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you need to build in an extra 10 to 20% of everything - time,

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materials and labour. I should have done that at the beginning really!

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HE CHUCKLES

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And when it comes to money, Jeff bought the barn, garages

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and land for £65,000,

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reckoning it would cost as much again to renovate just the barn.

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Well, he managed to get it done for £60,000,

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which would take his total spend to £125,000.

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Will the barn prove to be a good investment?

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Time to find out the thoughts of two local property experts

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and we start with the auctioneer who sold the property to Jeff.

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This property should achieve on the open market

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somewhere in the region of £160-165,000.

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I would market it at an asking price of £150,000

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with a view to achieving somewhere around the region of £145,000.

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I think that's amazing, really. I didn't think it was going to be

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anything like it.

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I thought it was going to be more 110 or 120.

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Well, no wonder he's happy because with those valuations

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selling the barn could give him a pre-tax profit of between

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£20,000 and £40,000. Of course, that's not taking into account

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what he made from the sale of the land.

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So, is it good news too on the rental figures?

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On the rental market the property could achieve

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somewhere in the region of £650 to £700 per calendar month.

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Approximately £650 per calendar month.

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I was thinking originally about 500.

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But 650 is, er, very nice.

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Well, Jeff already has tenants lined up, but if he went for those

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possible rental figures then he could achieve a healthy annual

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yield of between 6 and 7%.

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It may have taken longer than he'd thought to get to this stage

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but Jeff is pleased and proud of the final result.

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But was it enjoyable enough to make him contemplate another project?

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My wife and I haven't come to blows over it

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but we've had various discussions...

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Er, as to doing something else I think she's put the kibosh on that

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for the time being!

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Erm, I think this was a one-off, er...but we'll wait and see.

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Well, that's it for today's show but join us next time

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when we'll have more tales from the front line of property developing.

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So, make sure you join us then for more Homes Under The Hammer.

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Goodbye for now.

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