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Every day, all over the country, millions of people | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
are struggling to find the cash they need to make ends meet | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
or to realise their dreams. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
-40, 60, 80, 100. -Can I withdraw £500? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
I'm hoping for sort of 700-1,000. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
I mean, if I can get more, that'd be great. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
Many struggle to qualify for high-street borrowing, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
making them vulnerable to illegal loan sharks. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
I knew there was absolutely no chance | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
of any of the high-street banks giving me any money whatsoever. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Hiya. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
But there are a growing number of community banks or credit unions | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
that are offering a helping hand, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
whilst at the same time, supporting the local area. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
20, 40, 60, 70, 80. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
I'm pleased to tell you your loan's been approved. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
Brilliant, thank you very much. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
They gave me the option of what I could afford. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
I could actually live again and actually save again. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
From household emergencies | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
to kick-starting a new life or business. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
Organic veg boxes! | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
I'm happy to say it's been approved. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Brilliant, thank you, I'm so pleased. Thank you so much! | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
We're following some of these life-changing stories. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
One of the best feelings ever, because I knew I could fund myself. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
I had enough working for somebody else, I needed to do my own thing. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
Without that help, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
the transformation to my life would have been impossible. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
So, it's a win-win situation, really. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Today... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
..how a credit union loan helps a nurse turn her patienting skills | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
to therapy for dogs. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
It was like somebody had said, "You've won £1 million!" | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
One woman goes in search of a solution | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
after her spending gets out of hand. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
I'm here to do some debt consolidation. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Too much spending on the credit cards. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
And how a debt management company | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
finally turns a young man's life around. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
The letters stopped, the e-mails, they stopped. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Everything stopped. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
And I could breathe again. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
-Hello. -Hello. I'm applying to get a top-up on my loan. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
A rise in the cost of living has put more pressure on family budgets, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
but instead of tightening their belts, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
households in the UK have increased their spending this year, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
racking up an extra £1.6 billion in consumer debts. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
I was absolutely maxed out on every single bank account | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
and credit cards and loans, at the limit. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
I couldn't even afford to repay them, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
or even keep up with the monthly payments. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Credit and loans almost always comes at a price. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
The latest figures show families could be paying an average | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
of almost £2,000 in annual interest payments alone. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
But there is help at hand. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
Almost 2 million Brits now use credit unions | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
to help them manage their money. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
-How you keeping? -I'm keeping all right, yeah. -Good. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Even if your income is low or you have a disastrous credit history, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
these community-based ethical lenders could provide the answer. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Really, this is what banking's all about. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-We can say to you yes, we're happy to do a loan for you. -Thank you. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
It's easier to get a loan and they don't charge you great interest. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
No, no. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
Credit union has been a life-saver. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-Morning. Hiya. -Hello. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
-Hello! -Hello. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
The London Mutual Credit Union has four offices | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
serving 27,000 members, most of whom live or work locally. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
20, 30, 40, 50, 60, £70. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:46 | |
Donna has arrived at the Peckham branch, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
looking for a loan to enable her to put all her debts together | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
and pay them off more cheaply. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
I'm here to apply for a loan, to do some debt consolidation. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
Too much spending on the credit cards, catalogues, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
spending outside of my means, some would say. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Donna is working part-time as a carer, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
while she studies to become a nurse. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
She wants to combine her existing debts, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
which she's run up on store and credit cards, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
into a single loan with a lower interest rate. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
I want to give my papers in and then hopefully, fingers crossed, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
it gets approved. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
-Hello! -Hiya. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
I'm here to apply for a loan. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
OK. Have you had a loan with us before? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
-I have, yeah. -Lovely. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
Did you want to try and keep your repayments the same, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
-leave it like that? -Yeah, yeah, that's fine. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
I've been with the credit union since 2007 or '08, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
when I moved into the area. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
What I like about it is that credit union, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I think it's more, like, community-based, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
where banks are more like business. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
So, I feel like credit union works for the people. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
That's why I always come back here, because I always get | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
good service with them, I've never had any problems. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Lovely, so the loan department will be in touch with you | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-within ten working days. -OK, cool. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:57 | |
-They usually text you with the decision. -Thank you. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
-Have a lovely day. -You too, bye-bye. -Take care, bye-bye. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
If the loan's approved, Donna should have more money in her pocket, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
because she'll be paying less interest. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
While credit unions are providing financial services | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
for personal customers around the UK, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
there are other ethical lenders who focus on small business funding. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
These are also not-for-profit organisations, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
offering loans to local people | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
who might be turned down by traditional lenders. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
It's that personal service I remember from banking | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
years and years ago, has all but disappeared now. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
South West Investment Group offers business advice, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
mentoring and low-cost finance. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Compared to commercial lending, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
it's reasonably easy to get your hands on. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Sarah Osborne is a fund manager. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
It's quite wide, anyone from 18 to any age, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
nearly every business sector. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
We can lend to people who've been in business several times before, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
to people who never thought about it before, so it's actually very open, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
and that's why it's such a special loan. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
It's low interest, it's easy to find out about. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Sarah loves the variety her job brings. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
-Thank you. -Every business is different. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Some of them are much more ambitious than others, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
and some of them are an extension of kind of lifestyle. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
There's no "computer says no" in our business, there's none of that. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
It's about us engaging with the person, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
understanding the business idea, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
and looking at the finance they're looking for and thinking, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
the bottom line is, "Will we get this money back?" | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
In 2016, the organisation got an enquiry from neo-natal nurse Marion, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:56 | |
who was looking for a £22,000 loan | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
for a very unusual business start-up. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Marion's plan was to set up a hydrotherapy spa | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
for dogs in Gloucestershire. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
It's very similar to nursing, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
in that you're trying to make a difference | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
and help someone get over an illness. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Children and dogs, the biggest vehicle is play, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
so that's the same. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
You can't get near children without play | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
and you can't get near dogs without play, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
so there's a lot of similarities in that way. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Yay, good boy! | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
Always eating. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
Since childhood, Marion had always wanted to be a nurse. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
It was a long-held ambition. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
I used to dress up in a nurse's outfit. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
It was never anything else, it was always going to be nursing. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
Marion began her busy nursing career in 1986, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
specialising in neo-natal intensive care. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
As soon as she could, she and her partner Stu | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
made space in their lives for her other passion - dogs. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Bilbo was probably a year, 18 months old, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
and he'd been a very busy puppy. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
He would run for miles after hares. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
He had so much energy and he would be jumping like anything. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:20 | |
He'd do what looked like star jumps. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
It was when Bilbo became ill | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
that Marion's life took an unexpected turn. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
Come! Come! | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
We noticed that he stopped, he almost went backwards. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
He became less energetic, quiet, withdrawn. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:41 | |
Bilbo was diagnosed with joint dysplasia, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
which made it possible he'd need hip replacements. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
But the vet suggested hydrotherapy might improve his condition. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Just like humans, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
dogs can benefit from swimming to help repair muscles | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
after injury or surgery, and to boost fitness. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
We took him to this hydrotherapy centre. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
He was quite anxious to begin with. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
But within, I don't know, eight minutes, he was away. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
After months of pain, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Bilbo was suddenly able to move freely and play in the water. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
We just saw this dog change again. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
We were getting our puppy back. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
We watched him retrieve toys again. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
He was playing. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
It was fantastic, she'd throw the toy | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
and he'd go and get it and his little tail... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
As Bilbo's energy levels rose, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Marion was surprised by her own new-found enthusiasm. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
I thought I was going to be doing something that was good for Bilbo, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
but I didn't expect to get that buzz. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
After just a couple of sessions, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Marion made a life-changing decision. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
I came home one day and I said, "Stu, I want to do this, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
"I don't want to just do it for Bilbo, I want to do it." | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
And he said, "All right, then." | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
He said, "I've never seen you so happy." | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Marion's idea of setting up her own dog spa was going to be expensive, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
so she needed a loan. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
I went to my own bank, they said no. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
So, I changed bank, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
to somebody else, and they said no. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
I tried my partner's bank, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and I tried another bank and when you get that many nos, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
and it was a common theme, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
I thought, well, this isn't going to happen. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Then Marion found out about SWIG, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
which provides loans to get business ideas off the ground. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
I didn't know what the different terms meant, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
I was as green as green can be. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
She was put in touch with loans manager Sarah. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
She gave me direction. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
She liked my business plan, she was very enthusiastic, very encouraging. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
She understood what it was all about, which was really good for me, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
and she was enthusiastic about the whole notion of hydrotherapy, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
so that helped me, actually. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
That gave me a big lift. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
In order to build her hydrotherapy pool and kit it out, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Marion needed Sarah to approve a £22,000 loan. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
It came back with a yes and she phoned me to tell me first, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
and I was like squealing down the phone. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
-I was like... -SHE SQUEALS | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
My voice went really high-pitched. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I was just, it was like somebody had said you've won £1 million. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Go on, then! | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
It's such a big jump for people, and Marion included, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
moving from a professional job in the health service | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
to being her own boss and doing something completely different. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
The investment group's involvement doesn't end with the loan. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
They carry on offering advice and support, and nine months on, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
Sarah's come to see how Marion is doing. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-Marion! -Hello. Hi, Sarah. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
This is our pool. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-Yeah, it's six metres by 2.5... -Yes. -1.1 metres deep. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
In Marion's colourful beach huts, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
dogs can also have the full spa treatment, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
with showers, a blow-dry... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Oh! | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
-It's quite strong! -..and a massage. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
That's it, one more. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
I found it terrifying at first. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
You know, I had no idea what was involved | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
and I still feel I had so much to learn, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
being very naive about certain things, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
but I think I needed that direction and that support | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
and also knowing that I could contact people. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
And you know, when you begin to enjoy it, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
you wear that responsibility a bit more lightly, in a way. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
-I don't know! -Because it becomes your life. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
-Yeah. -It's not something additional, you know. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
It just is who you are now. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
We've had people come for birthday treats, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
they've just wanted to swim with their dog. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-What, their birthday or the dog's birthday? -Their birthday. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Never mind swimming with dolphins, swim with the dog! | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-Yeah, exactly... -It's the real deal. -It's the new thing! | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
I must say, I didn't quite know what to expect. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
But when you see the end result of something working, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
and the customers using it, and you're training staff... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
That's the real joy of it. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
I like it when it works out at the end, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
that's the real buzz at the end of it. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
I feel so proud. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
It's like having kittens or something, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
and seeing them grow up into cats! | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
But I'm claiming too much there. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
All the credit is down to the business owners, to be honest. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
For Marion, her business and her confidence are growing all the time. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:52 | |
Having a team around me that I want there, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
that have the same visions, that's really good. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
I can make an assessment and determine how I'm going to | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
treat a dog, it's up to me, and that responsibility is awesome. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:06 | |
It's just a great feeling. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
Bye! | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
In Peckham... | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
Can you just confirm the first line of the address? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
..carer Donna is back at her local credit union | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
to see if she's going to get the £500 loan, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
so she can clear her credit card debts. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
I'm nervous a little bit. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
I just feel like they're going to say no, but I never know, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
know what I mean? I'm optimistic either way, though, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
no matter what I think, I'm optimistic. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
The decision is in the hands of loans officer Jay. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
When we receive an application for debt consolidation, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
we are obviously expecting for there to be some defaults | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
on her credit file or maybe some missed payments, stuff like that. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Obviously that is the reason why they've applied | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
for the loan application. So, what I'll do right now | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
is just check the credit file and see how it's looking. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
It doesn't look too bad to me, to be honest with you. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Application looks OK so far. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
She's had numerous loans with us and has paid them off all on time. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
Checks done, it's time for Donna to hear his verdict. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-Hello, Donna, how you doing? My name's Jay. -Nice to meet you. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
-You all right? -I'm good, thank you. -Take a seat here. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Remind me, what are you spending the funds on again? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
-Consolidation. -OK. -Not even for, like, pleasure. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -I've got some good news for you today. -OK, cool. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
The loan application has been approved | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
-for the full amount of £500. -Great. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
I'll just quickly go over the terms. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
So, it's going to be £500 over 18 months. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
And the repayments are going to be £60. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Is there any questions that you have today, Donna? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-No, I don't have any. -Well, that's it for today. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
-Thank you for your time. -No problem at all. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
And we're pleased to help. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
Just keep up the good work. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
The only reason we are able to help is because obviously, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-you are saving well with us. -OK. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
You've had a good history with us, as well, of loans. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
-And yeah. -Thank you for helping me out, man, I appreciate it. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
-No problem at all. -Thank you. -Here to help! -Feel beautiful today! | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
She seemed really surprised at the decision. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
You can just see there was a lot of weight off her shoulders | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
when we did give her the decision. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Went really good, to be honest with you. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
I'm quite ecstatic with the decision, I must say. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
I'm going to pay off my debts and have one direct debit coming out. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
I feel a bit of relief, to be honest with you. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Something I don't have to think about. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
I'll sleep lighter tonight. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
Thank you, darling. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
As locally-based member-owned organisations, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
credit unions aim to provide more than just financial services, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
by supporting the people and communities they serve. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-Morning. -Hello. -Hi. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
Can I take your proof of identity | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
and proof that you work in the borough as well, while you do that? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Thank you. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
You do get to know the members more, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
they do feel that, like, they're your friend, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
more than I think they would do with anyone in the bank. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
They come to us for help and advice. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
Some of them come in as new members and ask us about the loans. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
If they have to be a member with us to apply for a loan and, yes, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
you do have to become a member first. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
-You're applying for a loan...? -Yeah. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Usually with loans, you notice there's certain times of the year, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
so it'll be, like, Christmas and summer. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
At London Mutual, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
manager Lucky knows how important that is to every member. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
If the credit unions don't provide that kind of services, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
especially low-cost loans, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
our members will go to the loan sharks or high-cost lenders, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
like payday lenders. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
They don't have other choice, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
because high street banks may not lend money for them. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:42 | |
-Thank you! -OK. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
Mum of two Sam is hoping to join the 27,000 members of the credit union | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
so she can get a loan. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
I care for two of my children who suffer from mental health, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
and one has myasthenia gravis. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-Hiya. -Hello, you all right? -Yes, thank you. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
My mum's been a member for about two years now, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
and she tells me there's a lot of benefits that you can receive | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
if you're a member of the credit union. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
-How can I help? -Basically, I wanted to open a new account. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
OK, have you not got an account with us? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
No, my mum has. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
So, do give live or work in Southwark? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
I'm living at my mum's. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
I've been a carer for so long, I'd love a holiday. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
So, I'll be definitely interested in maybe a short-term loan. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
-So, I can give you the forms. -Thank you very much. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
-Just bring it all back. -I will do. -All right. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-Thank you. -You're welcome. -Thanks a lot. -Cheers, bye. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:38 | |
If Sam gets her loan, she wants to go on holiday to Jamaica, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
where she's hoping to bump into Olympic hero Usain Bolt. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
He doesn't live too far away from where my family live. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Apparently, we come from the same parish, so I'd love to go there, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
hoping to see Bolt. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
Still to come... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
How a credit union loan helps one woman slash her high-interest debt. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
You're going to be a lot better off each month, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
simply by paying that loan off with the credit union loan, aren't you? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
I'm very pleased. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
And support from an ethical lender helps get two boys safely to school. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
And you can see he's actually trying to do some joined-up writing now. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
After a week, he's kind of picked it up really quickly. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
With many households struggling to manage | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
in the current financial climate, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
families are still turning to payday lenders and loan sharks | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
to help them out of financial difficulties. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
But many of us are blissfully unaware | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
of how much we're paying in interest charges. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-Do you know what APR stands for? -No clue. No. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
-Do you want to guess what it means? -Not really. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
APR is a foreign word to me that I can only see in the small print | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
on things that come up on TV. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
What? It normally looks like a massive number, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
like 1,065% interest, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
and that's normally when I go, "I probably shouldn't take that out." | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
If you borrow so much money over a certain amount of years | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
and you're doing a certain amount of payments every month, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
they'll add on a certain percentage amount | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
and that will just be your interest, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
and that's how the companies make money from lending you money. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
While short-term loans may seem like a quick and easy solution, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
it's important to understand how much you might have to repay. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
Borrowing £400 for one month from a typical payday loan company | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
could cost over £90 in interest. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
When it comes to credit and loans, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
the most sensible thing is to borrow smart, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
and that means only borrowing money that you really need to, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
for the shortest period possible, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
and paying it off as soon as you can. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
You don't want to pay a penny more in interest | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
than you absolutely have to, and so it's about looking at your options, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
to find out what the cheapest way for you to borrow is, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and then getting rid of that debt as quickly as you can, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
if you are being charged interest. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
21-year-old Will from Derbyshire | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
found out about expensive loans the hard way. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
It started three years ago, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
when a hobby that began as a bit of fun got out of control. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
When I first started gambling, it was usually I'd be in the pub | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
with my friends, just having a few beers and we'd see the slot machine, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
so we'd say, "Let's go and have a fiver each in it." | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
And the first few times, I pulled away some pretty good money. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
I mean, off a slot machine in a pub, the jackpot's about £70-£100, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:38 | |
and I hit the repeat on a jackpot, so I got £200. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
When you've had that feeling of coming away with money, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
when you've had that rush, it's hard to get rid of. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
So, it all starts off at pub fruities | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
and then that's sort of the gateway into the bigger things. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Will's interest in gambling continued to grow | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
and he even got himself a job, in a bookies. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
Really enjoyed it, you know, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
just seemed an all-round perfect fit for me. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
What I'd do is at work, I'd make fake accumulators, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
just to sort of pass the time. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
So, I'd get a bet slip, I'd write down who I thought was going to win, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
just to see, you know, what I would have won, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
and if it had come in. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
And quite a few times, it started to roll in a bit more | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
and I was thinking, "Oh, I could have won money there." | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
It happened about four or five times and then I decided, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
"No, I'm feeling lucky, I'll go try myself." | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Will decided to take his new hobby to the next level. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
So, I started going to the casino with a group of friends. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Usually only spending £20-30 a time. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
You see how easy it is to make money from gambling, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
you can turn £20 into £200 like that in a casino. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
It's so quick, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
but what you don't also realise is that when you're putting £20 down | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
and you lose it and you put another £20 down and you lose it, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
you can lose £100 in... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
I think the quickest I lost it was in about a minute and a half once, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
£100, you know, and that's a day's work, just gone. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Will was hooked, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
but his job didn't earn him enough to fund his trips to the casino. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
So, he went in search of extra cash. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
I got my first, I'd say adult job, working in a contact centre, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and I'd never seen a wage packet like it. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
The pay was great, and when it hits your bank for the first time, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
it's this real sort of rush, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
like wow, I've got a lot of spare cash here. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
Because of the bigger wage, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
I'd taken out all of these different luxuries. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
I had two phone contracts. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
And when all those bills start to come through, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
that's when it all really gets on top of you. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
But no matter what, even though you know that you've got bills to pay, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
and even though you know that you've got things to come out | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
towards the end of the month, you will still go and gamble, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
because you've got this inkling in the back of your mind that | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
I could go into the casino tonight with £100 and win £50,000 | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
and that would solve all my problems. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
You know, it wasn't £10 bets on blackjack tables any more, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
it was £50, £100 bets, trying to make quick money, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
but the quicker you try and make money, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
the quicker you lose it as well. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
Will was in trouble. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
Losses at the casino pushed him deep into debt. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
He needed cash, and he needed it fast. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
I turned to payday loans. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
It was... At first, it was £100. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
I thought, "I need this to pay my phone bill, cool." | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
And it was so easy, five minutes - done. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
£100 in your bank account within half an hour. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
And that's like winning money at a casino, you know, it's that quick, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
it's that easy, and I didn't read between the lines. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Because you may be borrowing £100 | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
but you're going to be paying back 300, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
so it just doubles and triples in price | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
and that's when things started to get hairy. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
And it was about four or five weeks later, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
I got a letter through the post | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
saying you're in default, you're in arrears. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
And I was skint, I had no money. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
So, then that leads me to think, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
"All right, I'll get another payday loan, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
"just to cover this and then that's it." | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
So, I took another payday loan out for £300. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
And I... | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
I didn't pay off what I said I was going to pay off with. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
I went straight to the casino. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
It's the whole devil-angel on your shoulder, you've the angel saying, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
"Right, great, use this money wisely, Will, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
"pay off what you need to pay off and stop it there." | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
But the devil on my shoulder's saying you've £300 here, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
you could turn that into ten grand tonight. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
I'd say out of the 50 times I went, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
I probably walked away happy, twice. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
In the space of six months, Will took out 12 payday loans, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:53 | |
adding up to £6,800. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
I was getting around about 25 phone calls a day | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
from different loan companies, saying I owe money to them. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
I was getting four or five letters a day | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
and around about ten e-mails a day, and the feeling was just crushing. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
I buried it. I stuck my head in the sand | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
and I stopped answering the calls, didn't reply to the letters, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
didn't reply to the e-mails, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
buried my head in the sand and I didn't know where to turn. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
At that point, I owed £8,500. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
You couldn't go out the house without thinking about it. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
You can't move. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Too afraid to reach out for help, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
Will's anxieties turned into depression. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
The lowest point was the day | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
that I was actually considering ending it. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
I was on my way to work. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
And I just had a bit of a breakdown, really. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:01 | |
I had realised how much money I had got to pay back. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:07 | |
So, I drove up to a local hot spot called Black Rocks. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
It's a really high sort of area. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
I parked with my car. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
I remember sending my family, I sent them all a goodbye text. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
Luckily for Will, his sister got the message | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
and tracked him down in time. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Within two minutes, three police cars came bounding up. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
Three police cars blocked me in. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
I remember the police officer tapped on the window and he says, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
"Are you all right?" | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
I said, "No. I'm not. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
"I'm really not OK." | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
I said, "I'm in a lot of trouble with money. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
"And I don't know what to do." | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
That's when everything | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
took a turn up. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
With the help of his family, Will took control of his finances. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
He started by contacting a debt management company. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
Within five minutes, he explained how the process works, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
how they can consolidate all the debt into one big debt | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
and how they can start to fix the payment plans. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
So, I went on, signed this agreement. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
He said, "Right, you're going to be paying £103 a month | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
"for the next five years and once you have made all those payments, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
"we will settle the rest of the debt." | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
I went, "OK. Cool." And that was it. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
And gradually, the telephone calls stopped. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
The letters stopped. The e-mails, they stopped. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Everything stopped. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
And I could breathe again. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 | |
Entering into an IVA, or Individual Voluntary Arrangement, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
helped Will get back on track with his finances. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
I managed to start opening up saving accounts, putting money away, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
not spending money willy-nilly. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
I haven't been to a casino now since last year. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
I don't plan on going to one any time soon. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
I don't gamble any more. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
I feel good about my life at the moment. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
It's going in the right direction. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
It still takes work, it still takes a lot of hard work, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
but I'll get there. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
It's been a tough journey, but Will says he's learned his lesson. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
Do not ever touch a payday loan with a barge pole. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
No matter if it's 50 quid or £500. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
Don't do it, because... | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
..this has been the hardest time of my life | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
and I don't ever want to come back to this. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
I will never, for the life of me, ever touch another loan, ever. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:34 | |
Good boy. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:37 | |
Short-term loans will always attract high interest | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
if not paid off in full. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
And they're a sure-fire way to increase debt problems. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
But there are alternatives. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Payday loans can seem like a really flexible way | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
to borrow a small amount of money | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
for a relatively short period of time. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
The key thing is they are a really expensive way to borrow. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
So, although you will be borrowing from a regulated lender | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
that is obliged to treat you fairly, they're not the cheapest option. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
There most likely will be cheaper options out there. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
Ethical lenders such as credit unions will always be registered | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
with the Financial Conduct Authority and can be checked online. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
Credit unions aren't only about loans. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
They also encourage people to save. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
Always good service! | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Madeline has been a member of Lewisham and Bromley Credit Union | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
for the last ten years. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
I was looking for a new way of banking. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Single parent, I had two children. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:45 | |
Bye-bye. Next, please. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
It's really just helped me build, I think, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
some security for myself and my family over the years. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
And it's provided a very good support in me gradually building | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
from that point to this point, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
to support my family and get a bit of savings behind me. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -I'd like to make a withdrawal, please. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
-OK, no problem. -Do you have a pen? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
I'm visually impaired. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I lost my sight in one of my eyes when I was 20, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
the other one when I was 21. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
I managed to regain the sight back in my right eye, but not in my left. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
Actually, the finances I managed to accumulate with the credit union | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
have really helped me with, I suppose, my freedom in society, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:27 | |
and always having that safety net behind me financially to support me | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
when I've had my disability needs. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
There's my ID. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:36 | |
Thank you, Madeline. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
I do feel very, very supported with regard to my visual impairment here. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
-I've got some 50 notes. -That's fine. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
Madeline built up a pot of money and used her savings | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
to take some courses to improve her employment options. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
-Thank you. -60, 80... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
With regard to my remedial massage therapy and the life coaching, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
it was quite a lot of money to be able to pay for those courses. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Perfect. Which I think, without credit union, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
I wouldn't have been able to build up that level of finances | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
to have done that. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
-Thanks very much. Thank you. Bye. -Take care, bye. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
It's put me in a much better financial position than I was in | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
when I originally joined. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
Because credit unions are run as a community cooperative, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
staff can treat individuals on a personal case-by-case basis. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
Have you got some ID? | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
And this is especially helpful for people with poor credit ratings. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
Never checked it. Not even thought about it. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
I tried to explain that to you the other day, didn't I? | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
-I'm still confused. -Everybody has to have | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
hire purchase to get on the ladder, to get credit. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
A better credit score history, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
got better chances of getting real estate. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Having a poor credit history can make it difficult to get a mortgage | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
or borrow money. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:55 | |
And if you've moved here from abroad, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
life is even tougher, | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
as you are deemed to have no credit history at all. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
If you're from outside the UK, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
credit histories and credit checks do not cross international borders. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
That is the same around the world. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:10 | |
So, it doesn't matter what your circumstances are, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
you could be rich, poor, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
you could have taken many loans in the past or never, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
if you have only done that activity outside the UK, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
it's the same as having no credit history at all in this country. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
That is a hindrance to getting credit, no doubt about it. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
When computer specialist Ignis from Lithuania settled in Britain | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
with his family in 2014, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
he had no reason to think he would have a problem with his finances. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
I have a lot of experience as a software engineer. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
So, for me to find a job anywhere is quite easy. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
I can demand a good salary to be able to support my family. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
Ignis soon found a job and a home for his wife and children. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
There we go, Lucas. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
But establishing the family ate into his savings. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
I didn't have a lot of capital when I moved here. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
And moving reduced my savings, so I had to look for credit. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:16 | |
I'm just going to put the safety belt on. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
Ignis was in desperate need of a loan to buy a car. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
But quickly realised his credit rating wasn't recognised in the UK. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
Because of my lack of credit history in the United Kingdom, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
I hadn't had much other options in terms of borrowing some money. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
I get a good salary, but sometimes when my savings get low, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
I also need to borrow from somewhere. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
I wasn't able to get credit from the banks. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
It was vital for Ignis to get a car quickly. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
His two sons, Lucas and Rochus, have special needs, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
and driving them to school helps to reduce their stress. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
Routine and following the rules | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
is critical for people with autism, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
because if routine is disrupted, they can go into panic mode | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
and it's not easy to calm down from the panic mode | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
when you have some challenges with communication. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
We had a lot of tears on Monday. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
The same kind of process, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
where he calms down and then it gets to break time and he goes outside. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
He's got that transitionary time and he remembers again, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
he's upset again. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:33 | |
It's a really hard day. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
But as a recent immigrant, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
it was almost impossible for Ignis to get a loan. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
When we learned that we couldn't get a loan from a regular bank, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
it felt overwhelming because we didn't really know what we can do. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:51 | |
In desperation, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
he started searching for advice online | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
and came across information about credit unions. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
I looked up what kind of credit unions were available | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
and I found that, because my work, my job was in Southwark, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
I was eligible for London Mutual Credit Union. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
Lucky, the manager of Ignis's local branch, processed his application. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:20 | |
Ignis is one of the typical members that we have. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
Wanted some money, but he can't borrow money from elsewhere. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
We always sympathise with our members. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
We find a bit more about the members, including the income, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
the credit checks and also their family circumstances. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
After assessing his ability to repay a loan, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
the credit union offered Ignis the money he needed | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
to get his son safely to school. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
So, I was able to borrow £3,000. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
With that money, I was able to buy this car. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
His income was good. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
So, we thought it's a good reason to apply for a loan, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
and a good reason for us to grant that loan. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
So, the nice thing about this car, it has the children-safe door locks. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
So, for my kids, because they don't fully understand, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
you have to do everything possible to keep them safe. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
Without the credit union's help, I wouldn't be able to afford this car, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
that reduced stress on me and my family. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
With their transport needs met, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
the children now have a settled routine | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
and are making good progress at school. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
You can see he is actually trying to do some joined-up writing now. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
OK, so he is keeping the finger spaces as well. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
Yeah. After a week, he's kind of picked it up really quickly. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
Education is really important for my children. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
We don't want our kids to grow up and just, you know, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
stay at home and collect benefits and those things. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
We want them to find a job and be productive members of society. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
Train! Crashed! | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Ignis now has big dreams for his children's future. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
My hopes are that the boys will be able to go to university | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
and be able to enter higher education, and that they will | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
be able to get a job, and just build a family, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
to enjoy life and not have to struggle every day. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
-I win. -No, I win! | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
We both win. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
One of the largest credit unions in the UK is London Capital, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
which traces its roots back to 1962. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
-Good morning. Would you like to come over, please? -Yes, please. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
I love to see people coming to the credit union | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
and just to say to us what we've done for them. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
We sometimes have people who have never saved before. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
And after a period of time, they can look in their accounts and say, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
"Can I see what's in my savings too?" | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
And they may have £1,000 in there. And they've never saved before. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. Bye! | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
The credit union is open to anyone who lives, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
works or studies in the area. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
And Helen has been a member for three years. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
She's on her way to apply for a loan. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
I need to do some maintenance in my home. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
I'm applying for £1,000. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Basically, just buying furniture and having the new flooring in. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:36 | |
A home makeover isn't the only reason that Helen needs help. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
I had a very high interest loan from another company. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
With this loan, I could actually pay off that loan | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
and new furniture in, and new flooring. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
So, that would be great, you know, spirit lifted up around the home. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
It's nice to get rid of the old and in with the new. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Manager Martin Groombridge is Helen's loan adviser. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
-Hello. -Hello, there. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
-How can I help you? -I'm just here to apply for a loan. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
OK. That's smashing. Can I have your membership number, please? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
Yes. It's on the paper here. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
OK, that's smashing. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
Let's have a look. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
-You've got bank statements with us? -I have. -That's smashing. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
-What was the purpose of the loan? -It's for maintenance. -OK. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
And pay off another loan? | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
Martin can see immediately | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
that paying off the higher interest loan | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
will put more money in Helen's pocket. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
That certainly makes sense. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
So, you're going to be better off each month | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
simply by paying that loan off with a credit union loan, aren't you? | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
That certainly makes sense. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:49 | |
If you'd just like to take a seat over there, Helen. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
-I'll draw the document up for you. -Thank you. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
See you in a moment. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Before deciding whether Helen can have her loan, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Martin needs to work out if she can afford her repayments. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
The purpose of the loan is to repay certain things | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
that have gone wrong about the house. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
But also to clear up a loan from a high-interest lender | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
and we'll reduce her monthly payments from £120 a month | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
to £75 a month. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
Actually, it'd be more than that | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
because she's already paying £50 a month anyway. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
So, effectively, she's going to be paying an extra £25 a month | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
to clear a loan that she's currently paying £120 a month. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
So, she's going to save a lot of money | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
and make a significant difference to her monthly income. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
It doesn't take Martin long to reach a decision. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
OK, Helen, would you like to come on over? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
I'm pleased to tell you the loan's been approved. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Very speedy. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
Hopefully, what we'll do, once we've got this, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
I'll give you the original documentation back. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
The loan's been approved, this money will be sent | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
-to your bank account later today. -Thank you. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
I'll find you an envelope to pop it all in to keep it together. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
-Thank you very much. -Cheers, Helen, take care. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
Nice to see you again. Bye. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
The loan decision will free up extra cash, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
so that Helen can spruce up her home. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
I'm very pleased that it's been approved very speedily. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
Knowing that my money will be there in the account, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
in just a couple of hours, is very good. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
I'm really, really excited about that. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
So, I'll do my shopping! | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
Since our filming, Marion's dog spa | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
has a raft of new four-legged clients. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
And as a result, she's taken on another apprentice. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
Building up what we want the business to look like | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
is a great feeling. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
And Ignis has paid off his loan. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
Thanks to having a car, his boys are now doing well at school, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
with vastly improved performances in reading, writing and maths. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:03 | |
My hopes are that the boys will be able to go to university | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
and enjoy life every day. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 |