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This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
The Stewarts are Scottish Travellers, proudly maintaining their traditional lifestyle, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
spending most of each year on the road. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Sisters Bella and Christine travel with their husbands Donald and Sammy, and their 13 children. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:19 | |
Punch him out! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
Their way of life is often at odds with those whom they refer to as | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
the settled community, and it's often clear they're not welcome. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
They're being cheeky chapsies. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
But they are determined to carry on living their lives their way, whatever happens. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:36 | |
We're not allowed in Montrose at all? | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
Are you the occupier of this caravan? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
When the Travellers make the front page of the local paper, Sammy is concerned for their safety. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:48 | |
They'll get a Traveller killed. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:49 | |
And when they claim teenagers have shouted racist abuse at them, it is Donald who is arrested. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:56 | |
He told me, if it doesn't go the right way, you're going down. Prison. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
The Travellers are camped at Riverview Drive in Dyce on the outskirts of Aberdeen. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:16 | |
Although many Travellers camp here, it is not an official site. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
Residents are unhappy about the camp on their doorstep, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
and now all the caravans have been served with eviction notices. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Everyone must leave the site or face being charged with unlawful camping. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:40 | |
An incident with local youths has resulted in Donald been arrested, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
and Sammy's work tools have been confiscated by the police. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
I went into my lorry, I opened up my door | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
and I've got two power tools, my chainsaws, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
they've went into MY vehicle | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
without my permission. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
They never even came and asked of me, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
"We're the police. Can we go into it?" | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
They've never done none of that. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
They just went in and took what they needed. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Sammy has decided to make a complaint. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
He's going to the police station to ask them why his power tools were taken from his van. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:28 | |
It seems that Donald did more than shake his fists at the teenagers. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
According to the police, he chased them away with Sammy's chainsaw. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:45 | |
He said the reason why they took my power tools | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
was because one of the guys was seen with a power tool in his hand. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
Donald has been charged with a breach of the peace and possession of an offensive weapon - a chainsaw. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:03 | |
Me and Sammy, when we're out working and that, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
we always take our chainsaws out, we always start them. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
They were roaring, so I took it into the back of the truck | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
because Sammy was working with tools, I was working with tools | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
and I gave it a couple of revs and I lifted it like that, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
but I looked across at them and the next minute they were off. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
But it wasn't the hooligans that phoned the police, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
it was the same moany people who were in the houses | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
who complain about everything. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
It was them, not the hooligans, who phoned the police. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
The families leave Dyce before the eviction notice is enforced. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
Sammy and Donald both rent pitches at nearby Clinterty Travellers' Site. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
Although they travel most of the year, it provides them with a base and an address. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:02 | |
Sammy has just taken delivery of a static caravan | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
and he needs to make it secure. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
I was going to put stones in the bag. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
No, on top of here. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
On top of there. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Yeah, but we have to go and lift it up and you have to put them underneath. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
Go and put the stones under, Colin. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Hurry up! | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
I told them. Did they do it? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
That will hold it the now, like. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Do you think that would hold, Mike? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
That's fine. It's just to hold it. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Now we'll have to go and buy heaps of breeze blocks and that, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
to put it all underneath and get it all sturdy. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Do you want to see the inside? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
What did I do with the keys? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
This is the first time the children get to see inside their new home. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
That is, if the key fits. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Lift the handle up and turn it round. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
That's it. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
-You see? -Yeah. -Brainiac can do it. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
I hope it's safe. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
Ain't nothing in it. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Colin, Colin, Colin, you've got dirt on your boot. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:32 | |
You have, down the side of it. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
The caravan pitch has a chalet providing toilet and washing facilities, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
but Sammy wants the council to install mains water directly to his van. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
Well, we're hoping to get it plumbed in | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
and that will help the children, because my wee boy Sandy has asthma, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
and my wife suffers from problems and all. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
That will save them from going into the cold | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
in the winter time. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
It's brand-new and it's big. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Brand-new, big. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
And one thing about a travelling man, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
if it makes the women happy and the children, that's the main thing. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
We just work 12 months a year. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Come on. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Sammy heads off, hopeful that the council will fit the mains plumbing while the family's off on the road. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:27 | |
The Travellers are camping at Methil in Fife. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
It's now August. The children are enjoying the good weather | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
and Sammy is doing a bit of DIY. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Just trying to put the sealer stuff on to it, but... It is. It's broke. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
Go and show mummy you're walking. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
His wife Christine is enjoying a special moment. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Her youngest child, Jeremiah, is taking his first tentative steps. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:11 | |
Too excited, eh, Jeremiah? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
His dad calls him Tigger cos of the bouncing he does. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Wait until Morag and Sandy sees you. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
When Sandy gets him, it won't be long till he's out on his feet. Sandy'll have him out. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
< Clever boy! | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Sammy and Christine eloped as teenagers. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
'We were going out with each other for ages' | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
and then we just got up one day and went, that was it. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
My dad was chasing me right enough, and her mum and dad were after her, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
because I had no licence, no driving licence, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
and I just jumped in the car and we went. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Go and tell Morag, Maria, that Jeremiah's started stepping. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
We knew each other as children, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
and as we turned into like teenagers | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
just basically got to like each other. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
I had seven warrants... off the camera! | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
I did, I had seven outstanding warrants for driving. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
They never got me yet. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
I suppose when you just know it's the person, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
you know that person is for you. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
I think I've kept him back. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
When I babied him. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-Dada! -Dada! Dada! Dada! | 0:08:36 | 0:08:42 | |
I've got 22 grandchildren | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
and they're all good. They're all fine. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
But some of them can be wee rascals. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
-HE SCREAMS -No! No! | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
No! No! | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
How you keeping, Hannah? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Sammy's mother Hannah has come to visit. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
Yesterday I was pretty bad. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Aye, you don't keep very well. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
I don't keep very well, son. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-Can I see the photos? -She's brought some family photos for him to see. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
That's me and my sister Marion. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
There's your dad. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
That's my dad, there. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Sammy was a quite good boy. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Sometimes he used to be a rascal, like the rest. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
This is you at the baptism with Marion. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
Me and you, Samuel, and Bill, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
and Tina and Michael, your brother Michael. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
We used to put a harness on him, a baby's harness, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
and tie him to the pole | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
and he would play there with all his toys. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
It was safer than one of them going into the road | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
and getting caught by a car. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
That was better for Samuel. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
Samuel was just born in Carlisle and the newspapermen came for a story to see inside the tent, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:08 | |
to see what way we lived. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
As a newborn, Sammy was taken back to a bough tent, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
his family home at that time. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Sammy was good at making bough tents, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
him and his father and his mother. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
Bough tents are traditional Travellers' accommodation | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
made from sticks or boughs tied with rags and covered with a tarpaulin. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:32 | |
Although life was hard, Sammy has fond memories of his childhood, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
and especially of his father. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
I saw my father drinking, coming up from England, and we had no home. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
The car broke down in Cornwall, and we landed on top of a wee roundabout, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:56 | |
and my dad went up to the woods, cut up a few boughs, out with the cover and we had a home. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
That's all we took. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
My dad had a drinking problem. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
My dad used to drink a lot and that, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
but that doesn't mean to say anything. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
Even though he was drunk and that, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
he left me heaps of good memories | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
because he was the type of man who was jokey, laughy, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
he was never a fighter. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
He always got on with people. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:26 | |
He thought getting on with people was a lot better | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
than arguing with people and that. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
The memories of my father are very, very good. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
You know Hannah? Hannah asked me could Morag and Maria come, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and Morag said aye, but I knew you would say no. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
Baby Samuel is taking his afternoon nap, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
and Bella's five minutes of peace is soon disturbed by nine-year-old Maria. | 0:11:54 | 0:12:01 | |
-You're only 9, not 19. -Morag, Morag! | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
That's Morag's granny. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
'Maria was born with a muscle disorder. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
'She never walked until she was over two, she didn't talk.' | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
She had special milk and that. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Very stressful. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
The Stewarts have a strong Christian faith that they draw on. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
'We went through a hard time with her. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
'We didn't know if she was going to be alive or dead. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
'Our heads were all over the place. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
'I said, to be honest,' | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
"I'm going away to the pub and I'm going to get drunk." | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
I was so upset with everything. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
Now, Bella's never done this before, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
which is why I believe it was the hand of God that caused it. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
And she says - I didn't have so many kids then - | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
"I'm going with you," she says. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
I says, "I don't care what you do." | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
She says, "But I want you to drop me off at the church | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
"cos all my family goes to church, and I'm going to seek something, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
"because they've got something. Those people have got something." | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
I says, "On you go, because everybody's Bible thumpers.". | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
-Mummy, can you tie my boots? -You stay out now and watch your little brother. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
'I stopped at the door of the church, and next thing I knew I was sitting on the back row. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
'And I crouched down in my seat' | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
and I said, "What am I doing here?" | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
I don't know what is says. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
What does it say? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
'I go up and I says, "Bella." She says, "What?"' | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
I say, "I want to become a born-again believer." "What?" she says. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
Christina, there's a lot of papers you can get out of the way for me. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
As Maria lay in the hospital the whole congregation joined Donald in prayer. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:48 | |
'My phone rang, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
'and it was my wife Bella.' | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
She was up at the hospital. She says, "She's not going to make it through the night." | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
I went, "Lord, if you're going to take her, take her, but I do not want her to suffer pain." | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
I was crying, to be truthful. You don't care who's looking if it's your child, you cry your heart out. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
"But if you're the healing God you say you are," I says and I banged the pulpit, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
I says, "Heal her right now!" | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
I was really angry with God. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Maria, get your hair brushed and put that band in. Hurry up. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
landed at the hospital. I walked in... | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
I almost collapsed | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
cos I seen doctors of all sorts all round this crib. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
When they moved back, here was my little Maria | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
standing at the cot and she was bouncing with life. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
I can see all the houses. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:56 | |
And, er...it was comical. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
I was so filled with joy, happy at the time. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
The doctor turned round and says, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
"Whatever doctor yous have got," he says, "he's beyond us, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
"cos this child should never have been alive." | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
She was never meant to be alive. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
The Travellers are camped on the shore, close to a modern housing estate. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
I would never choose to live in a house. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
I have, but I didn't like it. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
It's like you're in prison then. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
You've got the same people around you | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
and, like, you just can't adapt to it. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Although many of Scotland's 23,000 Travellers now live in houses, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
official statistics estimate only around 2,000 Travellers still take to the roads each year. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:24 | |
Alex and Christine are cleaning their caravan. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
You don't put it on... | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
Their brother Donnie holds traditional Traveller views. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
This is all a Traveller girl's supposed to do, just tidy the caravan. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
-Boys go working. -Who's pound is this? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
-Joshua's. -She found it. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
-Founder... -She left it lying on top of the seat. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
I don't agree with Traveller girls working, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
because before you know it, if a year goes by, if they're still working, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
they get into the settled community and they kind of forget about Travellers. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
"We'll go camping, we'll go out in the caravan this year." Never comes. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:09 | |
-I'm just leaving this up here. -OK. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Yous have been teached to get a job, go to school, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
get your degrees, whatever. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
That's what yous has been teached. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
We've been teached different ways to... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
It's just different, you know what I mean? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
A girl Traveller, erm... | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Girls, it's not allowed to do pretty much anything. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Girls get to stay home, clean, cook, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
look after children, be respectful. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
We don't go out, like, with boys, out in cars and messing around, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:43 | |
and be like... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
You've got to be really sensible. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
You can't, like, go around just date every boy and you can't go around | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
talking to boys because you get a bad name for it, you do. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
But boys, they can go out there and do pretty much whatever they want and they'll get off with it. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:02 | |
Girls are a different story because boys can, like, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
defend themselves, but lasses can't. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
Even now, many Travellers lack a full formal education. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
I've never been to school in my life. Never. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
The only time I saw a school was when I put my own daughters in. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
I couldn't tell yous. I'm not going to lie. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
I've never been to school. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
I wished I knew how to read a bit more. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
I can read, but not enough | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and I find it hard to deal with letters and things. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
But I do want schooling for mine. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
So I wouldn't mix the picture up... | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
..because this day in age is different from when I grew up. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
It doesn't seem all that long ago, but it is a lot harder now. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
There is... You need a lot of schooling to get by today. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
My Alex has left school now. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:07 | |
She was in all last winter. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
But she's 13 past, so they want her to go high school, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
and I just don't want her to go there. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
They learn a lot of bad habits in high school. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
You get told one thing, but your child's standing in a corner somewhere else. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
And there's the other hand, there's the bullying because you're a Traveller. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
It's different in primary. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
There's a different story when they come 13, 14. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
There's bigger children and they're spiteful-er. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
It just kind of always causes that deflection between Travellers. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
14-year-old Donnie no longer goes to school. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
I've learnt every kind of work. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
Everything I can make money out of, go and sell batteries, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
and go looking, peel copper, burn copper, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
go in to the eyelets, save up alloy wheels, go ask for it. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
All types of work. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
Anything you can make money at. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Well, you should be married about 19, 20. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
You should get your own life before it gets too late. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
But it's really your own choice, what you want to do with your life, is it? | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Travelling boys... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
is really manly. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
They grow up before their time. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
It's cos the minute they hit 17, it's like licence, lorry, work. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
That's it. Save, save, save until they get married. That's it. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
They provide for their marriage. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
That's how they do it. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
I'll just work like my dad did. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Save up till I've got enough money to get a home, get my own nice car, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
so then I can get married. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
You know what I mean? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Tina is almost 17. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Would she ever consider eloping like her parents did? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
If I turn around and says, "I want to go away right now," | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
my dad would actually go mental at me because... | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
I know his boundaries and I don't push them. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
I don't mix with anyone else, except from Travellers. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
I know my pals, I know they're the same as me. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
I've got a strict father, strict upbringing, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
not allowed to date anyone, not allowed to go out with anyone, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
not allowed to run away. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
With the camp right on their doorstep, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
local residents are well aware of their new neighbours. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
However, Tina feels it is the residents who are invading her space, not the other way round. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:48 | |
When we're, like, in this kind of place, a built-up area, with all them kind of people, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
when we're doing our thing, it's like they're always there, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
always nosing, and it's not nice. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
It's not like we go to the doors of their houses | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
and noses through what they're doing. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
But...that's just, like, they like doing that. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
As dusk falls, some local teenagers approach the camp. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
-THEY LAUGH We're on telly! -Why are you saying that? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
-Abbott, Abbott. -Alex tells big sister Tina that they have been calling her names. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
They're being cheeky chapsies. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
What is it, Alex? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
They're being cheeky. What'd they say? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
They were going, "That's gypsies, let's get our arse out to them", | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
and being cheeky and all that. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
Rubbish. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:14 | |
See what we've got to go through? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
The teenagers may have been cheeky, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
but they haven't done any physical harm. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
-See what I mean? -But Tina is worried they may come back later and cause more trouble. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
I'm going to get my daddy, right? No, he'll come out and see this. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
THEY LAUGH Get your tits out! | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-Daddy! -She decides to tell her father Donald what's been happening. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
Look, that's them up there, hiding. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
Earlier in the year, Donald was arrested in Dyce for chasing some local teenagers with a chainsaw. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:48 | |
The case is due to be heard in court soon. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
-Is it all lasses, aye? -No, two, three boys. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-I want you to tie the dog. Now. -Come on, bud. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
This time, he is keen to avoid any trouble. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
-But you would complain if he's barking. -Now. -I've got him! | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
You see the cheek we get off them now? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
Yous are deid! | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
He asks Tina to tie up the dogs and sets off to investigate the matter. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
We're giving them a fright so they won't come back tonight. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Donald has a few words with them. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Because if nothing gets done about it, then they'll be back doing... | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
There's more of us than them. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Putting stones through the windows and all that, so you've got to give them a fright so they stay away. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
Whoever had their underwear out or something, just doesn't want this kind of trouble or something. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
What they say doesn't really matter. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Like, wherever we go we get that, it's no difference. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Next day, the Travellers are tidying up. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
They don't want last night's trouble to escalate, so it's time to move on. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:17 | |
The Travellers are taking Donnie to Glenrothes, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
where he will compete in the British Schoolboys Boxing Championship. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
-How's the woman getting there? -Aye, she's coming up to meet us. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Earlier in the year, Donnie won a silver medal in the Scottish championship. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
This time he's hoping to bring home the gold. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
I'm really stuck. I don't really know what I want for my life. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
I think I would like to go on with my boxing, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
come through, make a name, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
cos we never actually had anything in our family that's made a big name. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
I would like our name to be... spoken about. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
My mum's a McDonald and my dad's a Stewart, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
so that's what I want to do it for, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
so when I become professional my name will get shouted out in the ring. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
Everyone will hear I'm a Stewart and McDonald. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
He has plenty of support, including his uncle Sammy. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:41 | |
-How many of us? -5,000! -I think it's 16 of us. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
Yeah, including children and adults. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
16. It's a big event. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
The best young boxers from Scotland, England and Wales are competing here today. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
Donnie is checking out the opposition. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
That's nothing to look at. Looks can deceive you. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
The other one's wee, he says. He's fine. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
But he's built like that. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
He's not bothered about him. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
He's no' bothered. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, we now move on to the next... | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Donnie is boxing in the semifinal against a Welsh opponent. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
And introducing to you, in the red corner, from Scotland, Donald Stewart! | 0:27:37 | 0:27:44 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
And across the ring, in the blue corner, all the way from Wales, it's Geraint Jones. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:53 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Come on, Donnie. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
First round. | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
Come on, Donnie! | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
Come on, Donnie! | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
That's it, that's it, that's it! | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
Come on, Donnie. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Get in there! | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
Get right in with five or six tight punches. Bang, bang, bang. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Don't be reckless, Donnie, right? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Come on. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
Last round. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Come, on, Donnie! | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Come on, Donnie! | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
The fight is close. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Whoever wins this will be in the final. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
Come on, Donnie! Come on, son! | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, please show appreciation for two gladiators of the ring. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:18 | |
By a computer score of two-two, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
it goes to a count back. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
And on the count back the scores were recorded five-five. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:36 | |
We'll then go to an individual score of the judges. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
by a score of the narrowest of margins, three to two... | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
..in the red corner, Donald Stewart! | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
-Ladies and gentlemen, please show your appreciation. -Yes! | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
Donald is ecstatic. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Young Donnie is now in with a shot at the gold medal. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
Oh, yes, I'm proud. I'm proud of him. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
Proud of him. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
I believe you'll have a gold. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
I know in the bottom of my | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
heart he's going to take it. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
A year ago I wasn't doing none of this. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
I'm in the British Championships! Who knows, I might be the British Champion! | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Donald calls Bella with the good news. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
Hello, it's me. Did you hear he won? | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
Aye, he won. Do you know who he's fighting tomorrow? | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
The Bomber. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Donnie is up against the same boy who beat him in the Scottish final. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
Also representing Scotland, in the blue corner, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Donald Stewart! | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
Seconds out, first round. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
Come on, Donnie! | 0:31:10 | 0:31:11 | |
'I've actually had punches that took water to my eyes. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
'You know, when you get punched right on your nose it takes water to the | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
'eyes, and then that's when you just dig in, you just get stuck into it.' | 0:31:22 | 0:31:27 | |
'All that noise just goes blank in my head. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
'The noise of all the other people. The noise of the bells. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
'The noise of everybody screaming for other people.' | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
I don't hear none of it. When you're in that ring, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
people maybe won't believe it, but you can't hear a sound. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
It's just stone quiet. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
You wouldn't even hear a pin drop. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
It's quiet as anything to me. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
'In my mind it's just him I'm seeing. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
'I'm focussing. It's all about focus.' | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Get in, Donnie! Get him! | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
My dad always says I don't want you to be like me, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
I want you to do something with your life. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
So I want to be a boxer. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:42 | |
But, of course, it can't always go my way. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
In the red corner, David Farrell. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
By the total score of four points to zero... | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Donnie has won a British Schoolboys Silver Medal. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
I had a fishing rod when I was three year old. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
My dad bought me it. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
You don't really know what can happen in five years' time, do you? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Maybe I'll stop. Maybe I'll stop, maybe I'll get worse. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
I could get better at boxing. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Anything could happen in five years. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
It might just come out of my mind. It might just be a fantasy. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
It might come out of my mind and... I don't think it's a fantasy. It's what I want to do. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
That's the wee-est I've ever caught! | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
The last time I caught bigger ones than that. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
If it was something about that size I would be proud. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
I've known boys who are brilliant boxers, could have went pro. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
I've seen them box, absolutely brilliant. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
And then soon as they got their driving licence, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
buggering off and not boxing. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
Fishing is a slow sport, but it's always worth it at the end. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Start going out drinking and just not boxing. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
That's not me. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I want to make something of my life. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Sammy has returned to Clinterty Travellers' Site to check on his static caravan. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:43 | |
In addition to the parking bay, the Council provides a small chalet with basic facilities. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:49 | |
Toilet facility there. And just a sink for washing. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
That's our own washing machine, our own dryer. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
That's all our own. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
Sammy would like mains water so his family can use the shower and toilet inside the caravan, but nothing has | 0:35:06 | 0:35:13 | |
been done since their new static arrived on site several months ago. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
You're still paying I think it's £80 a week or £79 a week. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
For what? For what? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
I paid for the static myself. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
This is what we're paying 80 odd pounds for. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
In addition to rent, both families pay Council Tax for their Clinterty address. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
We actually had to move on the site. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
It's not what we picked, it's what they picked. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
At the end of the day, it's what Aberdeen City Council... This is where they picked to put us. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
CHILDREN CHATTER | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
At the end of the day, you just want to be treated equal, the same, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:07 | |
people in the houses and the people in the caravans, you know? | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
That's all we want, to be treated equal. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Although Sammy is disappointed, he leaves Clinterty in the hope that the van with be plumbed in soon. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:23 | |
It's now September and the Travellers are heading for Montrose and Angus. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
They're going to visit family in the town and to look for whelks along the nearby coastline. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:53 | |
Sammy sets up camp at the links, common ground beside the golf course. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
Donald and Bella plan to join them later. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
I'd say we've been coming here since about the | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
last eight years. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
This field where we are staying, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
you wouldn't believe the amount of dog walkers who come here anyway. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
That's all they basically use it for. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
It's different, the likes of here, because I knew where I was coming to. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
But sometimes it's very stressful if you're on the road | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
you don't know where to go, you're frightened of the police. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
I'm going to set up the dogs. I've got lurcher dogs. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
I'll put my dog over to that wee spot there, the rough kind of part, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
because it gives you a good warning if anybody comes about and that. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
If it's not used to you she'll give a bark and that. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
That's you set up camp! | 0:38:16 | 0:38:17 | |
Less than an hour after their arrival, the Travellers are visited by the police. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
Members of the public have complained about yourselves. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
All we're here to do is just to get some details of your vehicles and | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
what your intentions are, how long you're intending to stay here, OK? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
We're about 55 minutes into the hour, we're just under the hour. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
I haven't seen anybody to have several complaints. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
I've never seen anybody since I landed here. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Well, it's just because you're parking on | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
common ground. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
Well, because it's a links. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
-Occupation? -Just housewife. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
-The same address as your husband? -Yes. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
You know, that's | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
obviously not good for the community to see litter | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
and human faeces, so | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
it's basically a process we're going through at the moment. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
What we need to do is we need to know are the children yours? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
-Six. -All mine, yeah. -We'll need to know their details. Right... | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
The Travellers have their personal details recorded, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
along with those of their children and their vehicles. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
They said, you'll be expecting us | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
coming in the middle of the night. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
I said, why? Why do you have to come in the middle of the night? | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
They said, just checking on you, keeping an eye on you. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
I mean, what harm are we doing? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
We're just sitting here, a family guy with children. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
I mean, what could I do in a big massive field, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
you know? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:12 | |
Despite the police visit, the Travellers stay on in Montrose. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
They're awoken by another police visit the next morning. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
Do you've another vehicle you're going to be out in at all? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
-Yes, a Transit van. -Once again, all their details are recorded. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
You know, the feeling you get when you even pull in, if there | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
are people actually walking their dogs, you just get the feeling that they're against you, you know? | 0:40:40 | 0:40:46 | |
I haven't got a clue why they don't like us. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
I don't know why, I don't know what harm are we doing | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
and I've never hardly spoke to a settled person in the community. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
I don't even know. I'm just passing through. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
You're just there for a short time and away. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
Sammy is upset by their treatment in Montrose. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
He believes that Travellers have traditionally camped on this ground and they're doing no harm. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
He would like the Council to work with Travellers to create a better relationship. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
They could put bins down. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
They could maybe put toilets there. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
They could do what Morayshire and Aberdeenshire's been helping the | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
Travellers and that way there's no mess. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
You don't feel like you're an actual person. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
You get treated like an animal, actually here in Montrose. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
You don't get treated like a human. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
Bella arrives at the links with her children, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
and following her are the Sheriff Officers sent by the council to issue eviction notices. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:18 | |
I think they're a clannish little town and stuck up, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
if you ask me. And they're very, very prejudiced because | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
in their eyes they want to keep this as a little holiday-making village | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
and they've got no time for Travellers. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
No time whatsoever. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
Donald arrives towing the last of the caravans. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
As he reverses into position, on the edge of the links, the police show up again. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:50 | |
Hey! The boys in blue! My God! | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
-I'm not even three minutes here. -What's your name, please? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
Donald John Stewart. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
S-T-E-W-A-R-T. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
What's your date of birth? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
-6.1.70. -Is he yours, Bella? -BELLA: The 170th time(!) | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
I never assume these things. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Do you have any other kids? | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
-Plenty. -With you here? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
-They're all up at the park. -How many? | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
-I've got seven. -In that wee caravan? | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Excuse me, if you don't mind, right? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
I'm not being cheeky and that, but what has all the children got to do with it? | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
-They're all staying here, is all. -Yeah, but they are children, we're the guardians. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
I'm taking details of the occupants of the caravans. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
That's what I've been asked to do, occupants of the caravans. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
It is the third police visit in 24 hours. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
They plan to stay until the tides change, collecting whelks, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:59 | |
but now they have an eviction notice hanging over them. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
Sammy and Christine have their sleep disturbed during the night. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:16 | |
At half past three last night, we were in bed since the back of 11, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
we'd heard a car, bright lights shining. We looked out the window, | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
it was the police who were creeping by slowly past the caravans, past ours, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
and down to Don and Bella's. Out slowly and then at half-five in the morning, I was feeding the wee one | 0:44:27 | 0:44:33 | |
and another police car in. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
The next day the police returned, their 4th formal visit in 48 hours. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:46 | |
I'll let my colleague speak to you. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
-You were issued with your 48 hour warning two days ago. -Yeah. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
So now we are issuing a 24 hour warning for you to leave the area. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
So, I'm allowed another 24 hours? | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
24 hours and tomorrow we will be back. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
-That's where I'm parking now. -24 hours they will be back - this time tomorrow. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
Under normal circumstances you would have been visited by the council, a welfare visit, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
and someone from the housing department to tell you where the legal | 0:45:11 | 0:45:17 | |
-travelling sites are, where you could go. -Yeah. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
There are camping sites. There's a site at then South Lights. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
I phoned one this morning, but the maximum stay is three days. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
Could you take us to Christine, now and we'll let her know? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
Montrose has a Travellers' site, but like most of the 28 council sites throughout Scotland, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:36 | |
it is permanently full with no temporary base for Travellers on the move like Sammy and Donald. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:43 | |
-..Caution tomorrow... -I'll be away by 12.30, 1 o'clock. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:47 | |
The police suggest they go to Tealing on the outskirts of Dundee, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
but there is no guarantee there are any spaces there either. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
Every time we do come down to spend a week or so we get told to go to Tealing. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
It is over 30 miles away. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
We didn't intend to come to Tealing, we came to Montrose. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
-I'll be out of here at 12.30 tomorrow. I want no charges. -Very good, Samuel. -Thanks. -See you later. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
Despite calls for temporary halting sites for Travellers, none of the | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
local authorities in Scotland have provided them. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
This is a caravan that wasn't here yesterday. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
More sheriff officers arrive to present a further eviction notice on Donald's caravan. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:35 | |
-It's the same caravan. -Yeah. -Are you going to give it to a 10-year-old lassie? -Obviously... | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
Young Donnie records the event on video. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
Excuse me! Just give it to me in my hand. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
It has got to go on the caravan. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
-Give it to me in my hand. I'll be putting it in the bin anyway. -It has got to go on this caravan. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:54 | |
-Catch it out of his hand. You're accepting it. -You are the occupier of this caravan? | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
-Yeah, he occupies it. -DONNIE: I occupy it. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
Are you the chap from Aberdeen? | 0:47:03 | 0:47:04 | |
-Come down from Aberdeen? -How do you know that? | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
My colleagues spoke to your wife yesterday and said you would be coming down. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
Common ground has always been available for travellers, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
because common ground is not just for travellers, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
it is for communities, show people, everything, it is for that use. Nobody owns it. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
For centuries, Travellers camped on common ground, | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
but now these areas are council maintained and the Travellers are regularly refused access. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:34 | |
With the threat of eviction hanging over them, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
they all agree it is better to move on than stay and be charged. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
The Travellers have moved half-a-mile away, still within Montrose. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
If I never moved off that bit over there, I had another half hour and they were coming down to charge me. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:59 | |
The thing is if I was in a caravanette over there | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
they wouldn't come in and I would not be bothered. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
They wouldn't even bother me. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
Come on. It's moving. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
I don't think the police has got nothing else to do than come and harass people 24 hours a day. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:17 | |
The next morning the police are back again. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
Even though they have moved their location, the eviction notice is still active. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:33 | |
The thing is, you know what's supposed to be happening, you have received a warning. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
-We did - from over there. -That's right. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
Not from over here. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
You can't just move from A to B and think... | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
But we moved from there over to here. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
You think you can charge people for different ground, yes? | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
You are still within Montrose. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
-So we're not allowed in Montrose at all? -No. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
-You must be racist, against Travellers. -No. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
-Are we not part of the public? -It is nothing to do with racism whatsoever. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
-If we're not allowed in Montrose. -You've been warned you're not allowed on the land. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:08 | |
But what I'm saying is we are not allowed in Montrose at all? | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
-No, that's not what we're saying. -You just said it. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
-I am allowed to speak. -Would you tell your son to stop videoing us. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
We're allowed to do this because it's a camcorder in my home. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
-There is a camcorder there. -This camcorder inside here. -We have been warned, we understand | 0:49:20 | 0:49:26 | |
that, but we can't understand we've been warned for different areas. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
It is still considered as being the same area. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
It is common ground, the council don't own it. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
They maintain it but they don't own it. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:36 | |
There is no point in getting yourself agitated. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
Just get on with the job because I'm not moving anyway. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
To us we moved to a different area. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
-We cannot read and cannot write. -OK. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
I am illiterate. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:50 | |
When I get told to move off the property we think we're doing the right thing by moving away. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:56 | |
You can see we were trying to keep within the law. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
At the end of the day we are here to do our job. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
-I'm not against you for that. I know you're doing your job. -I am doing as I am told. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
The charge is that between 19th September and the 24th, which is today, you occupied and camped | 0:50:10 | 0:50:17 | |
on land at Marine Drive, Montrose, which is where we are just now. Being private land without the | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
consent or permission of the owner or legal occupier of such land, Angus council in this case. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:29 | |
That is contrary to the Trespass Scotland Act of 1865 section 3 as amended by Schedule 1 part 6 of | 0:50:29 | 0:50:37 | |
the statute of a law of repeals Act 1973, and Schedule 9 of the Roads Scotland Act 1984, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:44 | |
the Trespass Scotland Act. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
Do you understand all that? | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
I don't understand none of that. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
All we wanted was a fortnight and we were out of here. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
It doesn't matter how heavy the authorities come on top of me, the police, the council | 0:51:03 | 0:51:08 | |
can arrest me, it is not going to take Traveller away. I'm still a Traveller. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:15 | |
The Travellers have moved north into Aberdeenshire. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
There are no official stopping places available to | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
them so they have camped on a farm track outside Kinneff. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
Donald is heading off to Aberdeen to meet with his solicitor. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
Earlier in the year he was charged with a breach of the peace and possession of an offensive weapon. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
He claims teenagers shouted racist abuse at his family | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
while they were camping at Dyce and he chased them away with a chainsaw. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:28 | |
Donald thinks he is the victim of a racist attack. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
His day in court is fast-approaching. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
I tried to tell them. There was eight of them, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
eight of them, which is of the statement, and one of me. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
And I'm the violent one? | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
So, where is the justice in that? | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
There is no justice, is there? | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
There's no justice at all. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
Donald believes he was protecting his family and says he had no intention of harming anyone. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:04 | |
They told me if it | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
doesn't go the right way you're going down to prison. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
It is now November and Sammy and Christine have returned | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
to Clinterty Travellers' site for the winter months. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
Earlier in the year the Council allocated a grant to upgrade the site, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:36 | |
but little appears to have been done. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
We were meant to get a lot of money from the council to get the caravan park done up, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:49 | |
we were meant to get Tarmac and concrete | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
and these things were meant to be done, a swing park for the children and it's | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
almost a year down the line and there has been nothing done. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:03 | |
There was 240,000 to be spent and so far there has been a few chalets | 0:54:05 | 0:54:10 | |
-up that end done - a couple of hundred pounds of paint. -As you can see. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:16 | |
The thing is we pay £77 a week, that's £380, £390 a month. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:22 | |
-When you think about it. -It's a lot of money to use that toilet. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:28 | |
The council was asking me why don't you just get a house, but I don't want to go to a house. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:37 | |
-That is my choice. That is the human rights. -You can't change a person. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
My human rights, my culture, we believe in this so we are proud of this. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:48 | |
The man in the house is paying a mortgage, buying his house, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
he does a job, he has those things, he will not | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
change that for our lifestyle, so I am not going to change my lifestyle for that. | 0:54:54 | 0:55:01 | |
It is the same way. You know. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
As Donald's court date approaches, he is worried he will receive a | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
custodial sentence leaving his family to fend for themselves. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
When a race of people like the Jews were despised, it doesn't matter what we say, it is never right. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:45 | |
We are always liars. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
I am not going to stop until the end of my days, even if I am 70. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
I'll have to get my son or somebody to move me about. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
It will be in the mind all the time. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
-I can't be anything else but a Traveller. -Why? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
Because I am not born to be anything else. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
Since the day I was born I have been brought into a caravan, so I don't know anything else. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
We choose to travel and they choose to settle down. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:26 | |
I know they'll never see us for other decent people. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:32 | |
All I want to do is, when we go places, I don't want them to be thinking we are something so bad. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:39 | |
We do not hide what we are. We are proud of what we are and we will stand up and tell people | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
We are the Travellers. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
Not ashamed, never will be. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if I am a Traveller | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
or what I am, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
I'll still be standing on that judgement seat beside the Lord on the day of judgment | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
as an equal beside everybody else. And I will be judged fairly. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:13 | |
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