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'Small firms form the backbone of Britain. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
'They turn over annually £1,600 billion. If they fail...' | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
-I can't do it! -'..Britain would be on its knees.' | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
-Death is my exit plan. -'But these firms face big challenges.' | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
It's not easy. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
The shop's going downhill and we'll be closed in a year's time. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
'Almost a third of all small firms go bust within three years.' | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
If we don't make those payments, the house goes. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
'I'm Alex Polizzi, a small business owner myself, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
'and I'm spending this year trying to find fixes for the critical | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
'issues that kill so many companies...' | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
You should be thinking on your feet. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Ah, come on. We don't have long to prepare. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
'..home truths...' | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
I hate your shop window! | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
You should not be in business! | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
'..and tough times lie ahead.' | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
All I have heard about is you bitching and moaning! | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
-You've ripped my -BLEEP -heart out! | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
'If small businesses succeed...' | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
It's not just my business you've given me back, it's my confidence. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
'..then Britain can boom. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
'This time, exporting.' | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
This business is an animal. We threw £50,000 worth of beer down the drain. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
-'Can I show a small firm...' -That's crap, innit? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
'..how to shape up...' | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
He's not allowed to spend one more penny. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
'..in order to ship out?' | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
If I fail, I'm letting the kids down. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
He's physically in pieces and I don't know how long that can go on. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
This is a kick right in between the legs. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
We're up a certain creek without a paddle. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
'Last year, the UK exported over £300 billion worth of goods, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
'helping to make Britain the fourth most valuable national brand. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
'For some small businesses, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
'exporting can mean success and growth, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
'but, for others, it can be an extremely risky move.' | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
British products have always been popular throughout the world and | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
are ever more so with the success of the Olympics and the royal wedding. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
Lots of small businesses already export, but for the newcomer, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
there are many challenges to confront during that process. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
I've got the Pheasant Plucker, Half Bore... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
One struggling microbrewery in Devon thinks jumping on the export | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
bandwagon is their only hope of survival. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
What countries do you think you might want to export to? | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
-I don't know. -I don't know where to start. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Six years ago, owner Paul Walker gave up a high-flying | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
corporate career to turn his passion for beer into a business. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
I used to work in pharmaceuticals, as a professional relations manager. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
I'd had a bad week at work, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
so I wrote a business plan on an aeroplane on how to set | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
a microbrewery up, as a bit of fun cos I was bored. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
But then it sort of dawned on me this is what I should be doing. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Paul found his slice of country life in some old farm sheds | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
and set about making a living from producing good beer for local pubs. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
This is the best bit. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
That's hot worts coming out, nice extract. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
I come from a very working-class background. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
So microbrewing I wouldn't say is in my blood, but working hard is. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
Ah! That is good! | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
But without any experience of brewing, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Paul was quickly out of his depth. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
It's the first business I've set up myself. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
It's a bit of a shocker how much you have to learn. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
I've made many mistakes. All went wrong. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
I'd bought the wrong kit, it wasn't fit for purpose. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
So, we had to spend a lot of money putting the brewery right. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
And it became a habit to throw money at every problem he faced. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Instead of being in profit, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
I've spent half a million pounds on the brewery. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Paul remortgaged the house and spent his savings on the brewery, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
but the huge spend came with even bigger problems. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
It just sort of snowballed, it carried on snowballing. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
It was just every time you have to invest to put problems right, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
it meant that the only thing you could do was sell more beer | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
and grow, and every time you grew, it needed more investment. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
To try and arrest the financial meltdown, Paul's wife Eline, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
gave up her job as a nursery nurse to join the business, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
but she was also in over her head. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
What are the supplier invoices? How far are we behind? | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-Got about three and a half thousand there. -Can you pay them? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Not today, no. I don't really understand finances. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
I haven't come from this kind of background at all | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
and it's been a massive learning curve. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
Even now, I don't fully know what I'm supposed to be looking at | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
when these numbers churn out at the end of every month. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Their financial naivety and Paul's excessive spending has | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
caused the business to balloon out of control. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
And six years in, despite brewing nine beers | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
and supplying 200 local pubs, they're not making a penny's profit. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
I'll take you to the cinema IF we can go for a bike ride. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Paul's family have followed him with his dream, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
but now, their future is on the line. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Our investment now is linked to the house. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Not only will the business go, the house will go. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
If I fail, I'm not just letting Eline down, I'm letting the kids down. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
At work, he'll just carry on and do the job and keep everyone going. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
But the dad you see at home, who is a dad to four kids... | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-SHE SOBS -..I don't want him to be doing stuff. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
He's physically in pieces and I don't know how long that can go on. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
They're desperate to turn the business around, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
and with 48% of their turnover taxed at source in the UK, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
they see export as their last chance of a future. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
If our exporting ideas don't work, I think there is | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
limited time before it is unworkable and the cash flow is completely gone. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
Hm. It is tough. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
Paul really needs my help. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
But sending beers abroad now could land the brewery in deep water. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
I see business owners again and again who make massive | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
decisions just cos their gut instinct tells them to do so. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
As with anything else, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
exporting is not a decision that should be taken lightly. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
With Alex, I'm just hoping that she's got some good ideas to help us | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
cos if we don't get some help now and we don't sort this out, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
we lose everything. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
I suspect that Paul doesn't really understand where he's going | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
wrong and I'm not going to make any decisions about how to take | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
the brewery forward until I know he's got the business basics right. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
-Hello, hello! -Hello there. Hello, Alex! | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
-Hello. How are you? -Nice to meet you, Alex. -So nice to be here. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Welcome to Hunter's Brewery. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
-So, how many pints does one of these hold? -72 pints. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
So, how much is in here at the moment? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
At the moment, there's about 400 casks in here. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-So, we're getting low, actually. -I'm just wondering, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
I don't know you well enough to accuse you of arrogance quite | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
yet, but I'm wondering why you didn't get someone who was | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
incredibly expert right at the beginning. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Well...when we got the brewery in, it was in January, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
and you can make beer very easily when it's cold, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
so we did the first one and it came out so nice... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-This is easy! -We thought, "This is easy." | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
I really did. So I thought I could manage it, but I was wrong. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
This isn't critical, but this has been clearly a process that | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
has involved an enormous amount of trial and error. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Yeah, we've served our apprenticeship in how to do it wrong. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
'I think he's made mistakes cos he's very confident. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
'He obviously thinks he can turn his hand to anything, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
'and I like that can do attitude in some ways. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
'In others, it's very dangerous cos actually experience does | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
'count for a lot. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
'But moving from the corporate world to the country with no | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
'experience of brewing, it's easy to see how Paul got into trouble. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
'Many small businesses dream of becoming bigger enterprises | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
'and expand too quickly. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
'Paul's dream has snowballed into half a million pound | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
'expenditure on kit.' | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
This vessel here is the hot liquor tank. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Liquor in the brewing industry is water. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
And we need to bring water up to the boil. This tank, we bought on eBay. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Transfer your hot liquor, or hot water, into the mash tun... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Into that, yeah. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
You add in your barley and your ingredients, stir it... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Secret ingredients! | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
You make it look like a porridge and that tricks out the natural | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
sugar and that's called wort and that's the base of your beer. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
We picked up a massive tank from eBay... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
I'm sure your wife hates your internet auction site obsession. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
Look at the money that's gone down here! | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
She does panic cos she's wondering what I'm going to buy next. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
I know. Darling, I mean, men have a lot of perverted desires, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
but yours is possibly the sickest! | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
-Stainless steel! That's what I want! -That is sexy, though. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
'It's clearly a labour of love, but this investment is enough to | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
'cripple his business if he's not selling enough beer.' | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-OK. So this is a perfect fermentation. -And it's very pretty. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
'95% of the ale brewed in these tanks is sold in casks to pubs | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
'and over half of all pubs carry cask ale. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
'But the cask business alone doesn't bring in enough money to sustain | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
'Hunter's Brewery, so Paul's turning his attention to bottling beers.' | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
Ah, the merry bottling crew! Ho-ho! | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-You're still smiling? -Still smiling! -Gosh, through the pain! | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
'Paul can get more money selling bottles than he gets selling casks. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
'If I do decide he's ready to export, there's big | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
'opportunities for bottled beers abroad and no excise duty to pay. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
'But this method of bottling is unworkable!' | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
We won a contract last year for 25,000 bottles | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
and we did 5,000 bottles a week. Took us five weeks. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
Ah! And did you make money from that? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Unfortunately, no, because we put four members of staff on it. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-Yeah. -So, no. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
'Last year, Paul took a massive gamble | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
'and spent £45,000 on a bottling machine. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
'But as yet, there's no sign of it | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
'and it's left a huge gaping hole in the business. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
'If this doesn't turn up, he's blown an extraordinary amount of money.' | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
So this is where the new automated bottling machine will be. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
Tell me, when is this supposed to come? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
-September 2013. -Yes. So, we're now almost six months over. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
Yes. I spoke to them on Friday and they reassured me | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
they are making the machine. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
I believe in people and I believe we're going to get it. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
And you didn't build in any penalties for late delivery, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-or anything? Obviously! -No. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
Stupidity. My own naivety. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
How does Eline feel? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
She's furious about the machine cos we've paid the money. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
She's losing a bit of confidence in the business itself. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
She's asked me would I seriously sell the business. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
-But what are you going to sell it for? -It's not worth anything. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
-It's not worth anything until you turn a profit. -Yeah. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
'I think it will be a disaster | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
'for the business if that bottling machine' | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
doesn't appear because it's a huge financial commitment that he can ill | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
afford, but at the moment, he needs to go back to basics. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
He needs to concentrate on his original dream, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
he needs to make that work for him, and only then, maybe, if this | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
bloody thing ever appears, will be able to take the next step. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
'Before I can make a plan for Hunter's, I've asked Paul to work | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
'out precisely how much it cost to | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
'run the company and produce his product. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
'It's something all small business owners should be doing.' | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
-Oh, -BLEEP. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
'I leave Paul to start number crunching. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
'Eline's had no choice but to get involved in the business, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
'so I want to find out from her how it's affecting their family.' | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
So let me talk to you about that mythical thing - | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
-the work-life balance. -The work-life balance! -How is it? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
There have been times when it's just been completely ridiculous. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
The hours that you've put in this office used to be at home. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Well, then, you never ever switch off. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
The phone's ringing all day. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
You've still got a toddler round by your legs. It was awful! | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
Our family life and our lives as people, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
that's not right at the moment. Far, far from right. And he knows that. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
His health is telling him that. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
He's a shell of the guy that he used to be at home. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
He is! That's the truth! | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
When he quit his job, they were almost mortgage-free. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
Now, their house is over 50% mortgaged again. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
This business can't go on losing them money, can't go on limping from | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
one month to the next, one year to the next, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
by taking out their equity in their house. They have four kids! | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
He's got to get serious at some point! | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
Eline admits she doesn't have the skills to manage the figures | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
and Paul is allowing his passion for the product to cloud | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
the business realities | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
and it's driving Hunter's and his marriage into the ground. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Paul has had to refocus | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
and work out how much beer he needs to sell a week just to break even. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
-So what have you discovered? -OK, this is my old spreadsheet. -Yeah. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:32 | |
We were looking at a 68 barrels for break even. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
-Yeah. -However, now I've put the correct figures in... -Hm. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
..we are now 106 casks. I'm a bit gutted at that. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
And that doesn't factor in repaying any loans. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Er...no. it doesn't actually. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
So just put that in and just see what difference... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
That is a good point. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
-Pushes it to 110. -That is if you do not spend another penny. -Yeah. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
-On anything. -Yes. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
-I can learn this. -I know you can. -I can learn this. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
It's just being willing to. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
'No wonder Hunter's hasn't been turning a profit. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
'Paul needs to sell £90,000 more beer a year just to cover | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
'the costs of the brewery.' | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
I've had my eye on the production itself and the customers, rather | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
than the business and I think I've got to get better at the business. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
'It's becoming clear that to improve this small business, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
'I need to dramatically increase sales. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
'There could be opportunities for Hunter's to start exporting abroad, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
'but first I need to make sure there is a solid UK distribution strategy. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
'Paul must also do his part and become more frugal with | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
'the finances, or risk getting the brewery deeper into trouble. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
'But first, we're heading to the | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
'pub for a pint of Devon Dreamer, Paul's own bestselling beer.' | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
Are you glad you did this? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
I know that on paper it looks crap, but what we've achieved is amazing. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-Our family are all very proud of it, you know. -Yeah. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
They all want it to work. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Lovely. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Cheers. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
-Look at me with a pint of real ale! -And I've got my old man's glass. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
I'm very conscious of the fact that I was asked to come here cos | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
you were interested in me helping you bring your product to export. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-Yes. -I would love, before we approach the whole export dilemma, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
to consider exporting beyond Devon's borders. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
-But even that is problematic until we have a bottling plant. -Yes. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
-I think you have to do a trip down to...your machine makers. -Yes. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:46 | |
I think you need to see for your own eyes. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
I think that as soon as you get this bottling plant that you will | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
get an automatic spring in your step again. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
You'll get your mojo back and I want to make sure that it's kind of... | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
I'm losing it, I'm sorry. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
-Why? -I don't know. I'm sorry. -Oh, it's fine. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
It's just, you know, you've got to find it... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
-You've got to find it again. -Mm. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
-I have. OK. -Yeah? -I'll take it fully on board. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
I think what Paul's going through is probably | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
the experience of a lot of small business owners. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
You have a dream and then translating that into reality | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
is incredibly hard. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
I just think that he's kind of lost faith in himself | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and that must be very hard for him and I'm sure very hard for his wife. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
I did get choked up. This means so much to us. Yeah. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:39 | |
It's not been easy. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
We've got to succeed. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
To ready the Hunter's brand for UK distribution, I'm going | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
to look at everything, from taste and branding | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
to their sales strategy, but before I can move forward, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
I need Paul to get this bottling machine. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Alex has given me a kick in the bum, so before Alex comes to see me | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
next, I want to get that machine in. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
His whole strategy has been posited on having that machine. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Without it, we're up a certain creek without a paddle. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
There is a lot of pressure on me now to get bottling. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
It's important we sort this out today. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
I would give any small business the advice to get some proper | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
references from anyone that you're thinking of buying machinery from. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Check them out in person and not to commit your money | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
until you're absolutely sure that they're on the up and up. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
'I've asked Paul to meet | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
'the manufacturers at their headquarters 200 miles away.' | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
We're here. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
'But our cameras have been refused permission to film, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
'so he's going in alone.' | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
OK. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
I've got a posh pen as well to make myself look professional. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
I know Alex said I'm not allowed to spend any money, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
but I thought I'd get away with three quid. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
Right. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Wish me luck. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
Two hours later, Paul emerges from the meeting. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Not good. I'm not happy. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
I'm not happy at all. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Not happy. Unbelievable. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
The coding machine is not there. The capping machine they've... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
-I just can't explain it. It's a bag of -BLEEP. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
This is a kick right in between the legs. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Hard. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:57 | |
Erm... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
It's not funny. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
Hello, Alex. It's Paul. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
'Hi, darling. What's happened?' | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
This is a machine that should be doing 3,000 bottles an hour | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
and it's just Mickey Mouse. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
'I'm just so cross for you, darling. I really am. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
-'I'm really, really sorry.' -What do we do for the best here? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
'Well, I don't know. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
'Do nothing kneejerk until you have a really good long think.' | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
-Yeah. -'Because I think there's been lots of kneejerk reaction.' -Mm. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
'There's always, always, a solution. There really is. We'll find one.' | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-Mm. Absolutely. I agree. -'All right, my darling. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
'Thank you for calling me. I really appreciate it.' | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
No worries. Have a good day. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
She's right. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
I'd like to have my kneejerk reaction, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
just to make myself feel better, but that's not business, is it? | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
The saga of the bottling machine is emotionally draining. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
You've got no reason to think that this would have happened. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
For Paul, it has definitely been setback after setback. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
He bottles it up, which means that every now and again, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
the stress level does get too much. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
And I think just it means that generally, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
he gets just emotionally and physically very exhausted, actually. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
This is a huge blow. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
The best that can happen is that the machine eventually turns up | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
and works! The worst is that he's thrown £45,000 down the drain. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
Any hope of exporting bottled beer has now vanished | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
and I need to think quickly about how I keep this business afloat. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
My only choice is to focus on increasing the sale of Paul's | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
cask ales and getting them further afield than Devon. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
Sharp's in Cornwall also started as a small hobby brew, like Hunter's, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
and now sell their flagship beer in 7,000 outlets across Britain. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Look at that! They're big, aren't they? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
'I think small firms can learn a lot from larger ones | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
'and I want to tap into Sharp's strategy for growing their | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
'beer across the UK, so I've asked the brand manager James for help.' | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
So you've seen the ripple effect. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
-You started here and presumably, you started with local free pubs. -Yeah. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:20 | |
But then the next big move was moving outside Cornwall. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-Yes. -So, how did that happen? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Well, kind of word of mouth, I think. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
There was obviously not big sort of advertising or above the line | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
kind of marketing campaigns. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Grew to Exeter, but by bit, just opened it up, account by account. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
So I'd be out there in my little hire car with my Burton's suit | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
and my briefcase, knocking on doors and trying to open up that | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
business and fortunately, it was sort of successful. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
What was the kind of thinking behind it? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
It was almost dictated to us, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
we had to be able to deliver to Land's End. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
To get to Land's End, it takes and hour and a half. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
I think we knew that Exeter has the farthest range in that direction. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
-Draw a little radius. -Exactly that. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
We started the distribution from Bristol, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
we then worked back to Exeter. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
So our Bristol depot could service everything on the kind of | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
east side, and then the Rock obviously on the west side of that. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
And the strategy at that point was to really make | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Doom Bar a kind of top ten, if not top five, national brand. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
This is a lesson to all small businesses. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
The reason big companies get bigger and more successful | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
is because they strategise. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Sharp's distribution strategy was to get one flagship brand | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
put on the road. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
They chose which brand by rigorous testing. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Paul's beers have won awards | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
but out of competition he relies on his own palate and instinct. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
He needs expert impartial input. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
So I've asked Sharp's master brewer to help us | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
decide which beer to get behind. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
I've brought Paul's best beers to test, including Devon Dreamer - | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
the ale HE'S banking on. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
-I don't do beer tastings. -Right. -I do lots of wine tastings. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
So tell me what I'm looking for, when I taste a beer. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Beer tasting is much more about excluding things | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
which customers don't enjoy. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
So you're looking for off flavours | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
like butterscotch or rotten eggs, or kind of green apple, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
those kind of unpleasant flavours. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
The first thing you want to do is smell and sniff the beer. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
It is important to swill it. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
That basically allows the CO2 to come off | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
and pushes all the volatiles, all the fragrance from the beer. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
And then take a good sniff. And then it's down to the palate test. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
The whole of your mouth senses all the flavours that are in it - | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
the bitterness, the astringency, the sweetness | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and the dryness that is there. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
Are there certain characteristics that successful beers share? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
Cleanness, crispness and a refreshing characteristic | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
is something which a successful beer always has. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
-So, do you want go and get yours, then? -Yes. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
A bit nervous actually for him, with this connoisseur here. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
-I'm known for speaking my mind, so... -Yeah? -Oh, I love that. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
-We like that, don't we? We like that. -We might. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
-I don't know that Paul will. -THEY CHUCKLE | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
What do you think of the labels? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
I'm not in love with the labels, to be honest with you. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
They do not have the touch of a marketeer about them. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
They look a little bit... the same as everyone else's. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
ALEX GASPS | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
-Half Bore is a honey beer. -Right. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
-Critique on this one, please? -Um, for me it's a little bit bitter. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
If it's offering honey, there's not a lot of honey coming through. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
All you get is quite a lot of hop bitterness on this one. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
So I would hope for a little bit more sweetness. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
It's not a balanced beer. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
'This certainly isn't what I wanted to hear. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
'And it's the first time Paul's had this kind of feedback.' | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
-Royal Hunt, then. -Go on, then. -We use Citra hop for a finish. -Right. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
And there's a lot of honey in this one. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
-Comments? -Yeah, that's good. That's good. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
We always worry with Citra that you're going to get | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
real in-your-face, baseball-bat bitterness, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
but that is a good subtle bitterness | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
and you're still getting the tropical fruit notes from that, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
which is really good. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
Stuart likes Royal Hunt | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
despite it being one of Paul's less popular ales. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
But Devon Dreamer, his leading ale, is up next. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Devon Dreamer, 4.1% ABV. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
A very simple process. We triple hop this. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
'The name alone is a big draw for Hunter's local market, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
'so it's no surprise it sells twice as much as the rest of the range. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
'But can this beer alone carry the Hunter's brand?' | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
It's a good beer. The basics are there. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
The clarity of flavour could be improved | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
and I think that is... potentially the boil. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Do you like it or do you not like it? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
I wouldn't be happy if I brewed it. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
-I've got to say I'm going to defend Devon Dreamer... -Yeah. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
..because you're the first person EVER to say that. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Another brewery from here could taste that and say it's the best thing | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
-they've ever tasted. -Yes. -So it's subjective. -Yeah. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
'It's not what I was expecting from a bestseller. Paul's taken it badly. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
'But this is business and he needs to toughen up.' | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
-I think Alex thinks, "You've got to be -BLEEP -joking?" -I know. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-I think you did amazingly well. -Alex was shocked. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
You saw the shock on her face. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
-She did NOT expect that. -I know. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
I mean, it seems obvious to me. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
The beer that should go outside Devon, which is Devon Dreamer, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
it sells so much more than everything else. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
However, it clearly wasn't a particular winner with Stuart. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
So I'm not quite sure where that leaves us. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Maybe Devon Dreamer is successful in Devon just because of the name. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Perhaps Paul was overlooked Stuart's favourite - Royal Hunt. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Could this underdog ale be the answer? | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
I can't take the man from Doom Bar... his opinion as gospel. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
No, I understand what you're saying. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
-Because the only way to get a real test is blind tasting. -I know. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
I feel... I don't know. I don't know. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
Am I being too overprotective of my brand? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
A smidgen but that's OK, you're entitled to be, it's your beer. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
-It is. -So you're very entitled to be. So don't worry about it. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
'I think the feedback from Stuart at Sharp's,' | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
I think it just put an inkling in his head, like a doubt in the back | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
of his mind, "Is my beer good enough?" Because it was questioned. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
'Paul does struggle with negative feedback. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
'We would all call Paul a confident person.' | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
He is very confident. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
But actually his confidence does get easily knocked. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
'Yeah, he just doesn't handle it terribly well. Yeah.' | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
'The tasting at Sharp's may have hit Paul harder than I expected.' | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Hi. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
'So before we resume our search for a flagship beer, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
'I've invited Paul and Eline to my home.' | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
So, tell me, how has everything been going since I last saw you? | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
I was worried that it would depress you or annoy you. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
In some ways I was quite angry about it. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
-It's easy to -BLEEP -on the chips of a smaller company, isn't it? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
-Yes. -But it's his opinion, he's entitled to it. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
I don't think you have to take anybody's wholesale advice | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
apart from mine, of course. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
I insist upon that. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
So the plan for today is I've invited about 30 beer bloggers, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:16 | |
-sommeliers, members of the drinking public... -OK. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
..to come and taste your fine beer. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
They will then vote on their preferred ones | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
and we will a clear winner. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
-That would be the ideal scenario. -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
We will have a flagship beer. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
We will have the one that we really want to push. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
How are you feeling about the taste test? | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
I was very nervous last night. I didn't sleep very well. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
-I was worried about this. -Why? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Well, I'm worried that people won't like any of the beers. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
-I doubt it. -If they say they're all crap. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
It could happen, couldn't it? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
I think, first of all, let's not worry about that. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
I don't think that's a realistic fear. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Hopefully we will get and come away today with a much stronger sense | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
of where we're going with it next. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
-Thank you. -Come on. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
'For this second taste test, we're sampling four beers including | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
'Paul's top seller Devon Dreamer and Stuart's standout ale Royal Hunt. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
'I just hope this time we all agree on a winner.' | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to The Calf in Clapham, my local. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
We are going to do this in a very measured manner. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Each get a beer mat and I will ask you to vote for your favourite beer. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
What else is there to say, except | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
goodness gracious me, it's time to start drinking. I mean tasting. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
MUSIC: "I'm Pretty Good At Drinkin' Beer" by Billy Currington | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
# I wasn't born digging deep holes | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
# I'm not made for paving long roads | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
# I ain't cut out to climb high-line poles | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
# But I'm pretty good at drinking beer... # | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
Everyone's chatting. Nice atmosphere. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
Paul's obviously very nervous. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
I'm nervous. I want it to work. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
I want to find out if... | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
I mean, I'm hoping they're going to like at least one of the beers. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
We've never really done this before. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
We've gone to beer festivals | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
and we've had it judged with everybody else's beer. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
This is the first time we've had this with just our beer | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
in the room. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
So it'll be interesting to see what people really do say and think. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
# ..Built for having a ball... # | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
It's a good old-fashioned taste. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
It's not for me at all. I prefer it a bit more pale aley. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Excuse the pun, it's very beery. I like beer to be beery. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
I've got to take this opinion now, rough or smooth, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
and I can't throw my toys out of my pram on this one. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
This is the way it is, isn't it? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
The cool, hard truth of the matter. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
-What's your favourite then, overall? -Overall? A. -Yours? -A. -A. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:48 | |
-Just become A. -A. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
Unanimous - if it was just us. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Let's see if everyone else agrees. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
-Cheers. -Cheers. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:58 | |
# ..I'm pretty good at drinkin' beer. # | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
So I have the overall results. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
Poor old D came trailing last which, interestingly enough, guys, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
is their bestselling beer locally in Devon. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
B, number three, Crack Shot. Then C, was number two, Half Bore. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:22 | |
So A was the clear winner. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
So both your professional brewer and your drinking public agree. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:34 | |
And it's Royal Hunt. Royal Hunt is the one. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
-Thank you very much, Alex. -Thank you. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
'It's a result. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
'Royal Hunt came top, relegating Devon Dreamer into last place. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
'At least now I've convinced Paul the former underdog beer | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
'is the right ale to champion.' | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
After the last beer tasting, I was very nervous. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
What'd happen if people said this beer is no good? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Um... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
They've no negative comments really about any of the beers. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
I'm really pleased. So it's sort of put the argument to bed. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
And back in Devon, there's some unexpected news. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
Seven months late, most of the bottling machine has arrived. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
The question is whether it's too Mickey Mouse to use. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
Perfect. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
ELECTRICAL WHIRRING | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
It's pumping. It's working. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
With this machine up and running, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
we'll be able to fulfil large bottle orders out of the county | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
and we may have the option to export when the time is right. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
So, just push your bottles down. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
-That's impressive, isn't it? -So they're on the wrong end, yeah? | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
-Yeah. -OK. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Eurgh! | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
Oh, that's crap, isn't it? | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
There's something wrong on the settings here. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
All right. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
-I've got my work cut out here... -Well, yeah. For today... -Yes? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
..I would stop tinkering. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
It would be too easy for it to run. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
You're not achieving anything now by fiddling. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
No, no, I don't we'll achieve anything. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
I totally agree with you but don't talk to me like I'm a kid. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
-No, I'm not. -I totally get you. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:35 | |
-I do know. -Yeah. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
Paul and Eline have banked on this machine to the tune of £45,000. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
So there's massive pressure for it to work. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
Despite slaving over the machine day and night, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
Paul's worst fears have been realised. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
The bottling machine that we purchased, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
we've try to commission it and there's many faults with it. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
So we've decided to give up with it, put it to one side and start again. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
It's been a nightmare. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:18 | |
So the plan is that we find a second-hand bottling machine, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
bring it here, commission it and start bottling automatically. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
We believe this is the way forward. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
I know it's more money but I haven't got any choice at all in it. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
I have to do this. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
So, um, we can take all the advice in the world | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
but we can't carry on working the way we are. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
Two months in, we're back to square one on the bottling front. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
What are you going to do? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
'We're lucky that we have some friends in the industry, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
'who have a spare bottling line. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
'They've just upgraded. They've got a small one which works.' | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
So... | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
I don't even know where to... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
I just don't want you to go out and spend another whole load of money. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
I just want you to take the decision-making as slowly as you can | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
because I really, really don't want to be involved | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
in you making a mistake. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
'Alex, we are going to bottle beer. We have to - | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
'it's part of our business. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
'And we have opportunities to grow our business massively.' | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
-Mm. -'We have to do this, one way or the other, Alex.' -OK. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
Despite my advice about not spending a penny more, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
Paul has made his mind up. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
He's paid £20,000 for the new machine | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
by remortgaging the house, which horrifies me. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
But it is HIS business so I have to respect it. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
-ELINE: -Paul's personality definitely lets him get through it. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
He's got an incredible amount of self-belief that can, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
I guess, come across as that he's arrogant. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
But he isn't arrogant at all. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
I think he just holds true to what he knows he can do | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
and he will never ever give up. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Before brewing, we have faced a lot of challenges. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
What people don't know about me is I left school | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
when I was 12 years old with no qualifications whatsoever. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
I managed to get a corporate job in pharmaceuticals | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
without a degree background and did very well at that. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
So, in the face of adversity, I did very well | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
as realistically I shouldn't have done. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
So there is that. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:26 | |
But sort of my background has given me the attitude I've got, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
in that you don't give up, you must succeed. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
We're back to bottling and the next thing | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
I need to do is reposition this product so it sells more. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
But one has to tread carefully when considering rebranding. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
In 1997, British Airways spent £60 million | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
rebranding its entire fleet of planes | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
by replacing the Union Flag trademark. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
But it received a frosty response and the decision was soon reversed. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
Others, like Compare The Market, did get it right. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
The launch of its meerkat campaign in 2009, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
boosted the brand's market share by 76%. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
I think to help Paul stand out against some of the leading | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
beer brands, his mismatched labels need a radical overhaul. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
So I've brought them to a London-based design agency for help. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
ENTRY SYSTEM BUZZES | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
-Hi, this is Alex Polizzi and team. -'OK. Come up.' -Thanks. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
Underscore have worked with some of the biggest British brands - | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
from Tesco to The Body Shop. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
They've helped breweries like Beavertown update their look | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and I'm hoping they can do the same for Hunter's. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
We'd start by looking at you as you are today. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
You've got a whole menagerie of different labels, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
that looks like you have a very eclectic mix of beers. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
But do they sit together as a family? | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
Even though there is some level of symmetry in the shape, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
-they all look and feel different. -Mm-hm. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
From a design point of view, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
which is ultimately how your brand would be connected, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
you're working with different typography. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Some of them we've got a very dominant name | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
but then we suddenly veer over here into illustration. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
And it's very important to get the balance right | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
between what the name is and what you're saying. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
The name alone can be a reason to stop you | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
-getting into a certain country. -Yeah. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
There are cultural differences everywhere you look. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
You will find, for example if you're looking geographically, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
that certain nations have already OWNED a certain colour - | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
whether that's the blue, red, you know... | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
And it's usually primary colours, it has to be said. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
It depends on how far afield you want go. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
We don't want to strip this back until it is completely white. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Um, but at the same time, it's about giving you | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
a colour palette that feels right for your customers | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
and actually has that feeling of tradition, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
whilst also being maybe a little bit more contemporary | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
and forward-thinking than this has been before. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
-I know. -The general trend is for less. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
-Yes. -Yeah, I think we need help, don't we? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
-ALEX CHUCKLES -Do you think(?) | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
-You never know. -Do you think? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
I want you to have a look at something. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
We had to put together some brand values, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
just based on what we did know about you, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
to help inform our initial creative. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Have a look at these and tell me what resonates with you. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
-Consistency. -Consistency. Why? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
Because all I've ever done is worked on that. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
-Yes, that is my life, is getting the consistency. -Yeah. Yeah. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
-Great. -Definitely cheeky. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
"Pub speak", what do you mean by that? | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
You know, there's a difference between | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
-pub speak and bar speak. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
-That's the subtle difference. -Yeah. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
-Yeah? -And informal is definitely where we are. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
I feel as well, we're kind of almost everyman. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
He was your every guy you speak to, that was stuck in the job | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
with the family and the mortgage and he had to earn the money. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
And he just thought... | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
-I can't do it any more. I'm sorry. All these words are exactly it. -Aw! | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
Poor old wifey, look. She'll be all right in a minute. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
-I was waiting for that. It was coming out anyway. -It's -BLEEP. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
-It's that you've got to get it right. -That's what it has to be. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
It has to be real. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
What we need to do is, you've got all the basics there, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
-we just need to encapsulate that and really tell the story. -OK. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
'Neil and his team have put together four options to rebrand Hunter's | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
'and I want Paul and Eline to choose their favourite.' | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
What we're doing, we're taking the essence of where you were before | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
and we're bringing it up to date and we're taking it into the future. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
It's got a certain amount of clarity in there | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
so that it feels more established. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
-We're connecting with tradition... -I like that. -..to get that gut feel we were talking about before. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
If you're reaching into new markets, if you're going further afield, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
because of the geographic issues and the regional issues, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
less is very much more. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Well, I'm leaving Paul and Eline there. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
I know this discussion is going to go on for ages. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
It's the first time they've ever done any exercise like this | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
and I don't think they're going to come to a decision in a moment. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
I just hope that seeing these fantastic designs | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
is going to move on their thinking a bit | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
and help them with the big next steps they have to take. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
I wasn't expecting it to be as good as that. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
And I really...I thought I'd say, Alex, I don't want you to change | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
my branding too much, but it made a lot of sense in there. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
So Alex is right yet again. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
All four designs that were there were good in their own right | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
but one of them stuck out really well and, erm... | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
posh, smart, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
but it's still down to earth, which is what we're trying to be. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
'I'm confident that now the branding is more in keeping with | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
'the modern image of microbrewering, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
'we have a better chance of rolling one beer out across the UK. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
# Do it, do it, do it, do it Do it now... # | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
'And I'm wasting no time in finding out. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
'I've brought Paul, his flagship ale and the new branding | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
'up the M5 corridor to Bristol - a cosmopolitan city | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
'that's embraced the ale movement.' | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
I think...it seems obvious to me that the first next place | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
you have to supply is somewhere with a high population | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
because there's an opportunity for a lot of sales. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Bristol has a lot of pubs and restaurants. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
-Now, with the new bottling plant possibly coming online... -Yes. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
..there is the possibility for selling more in restaurants, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
which would not sell cask but will sell bottles. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
There's enough restaurants that I think you ought to be able to get | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
-20 or 30 to supply in Bristol, given a bit of leg-work. -Yeah. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
-We're just testing the water. -I like it. Let's do it. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
# Splish-splash, I was taking a bath... # | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
'This historic lido boasts an award-winning restaurant | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
'and I've heard the head chef is looking for a strong beer, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
'so it's the perfect opportunity for Paul to push Royal Hunt | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
'and road test the new branding.' | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Currently looking for something that's a bit gutsy we can use in the winter months. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
Cooking pigs' cheeks and things like that. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
That's the sort of thing that will work with that. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
-Royal Hunt, a 5.5% strong winter beer, really. -OK. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
We've entered it into some national competition, and regional, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
-and we won both. -Sounds impressive. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
Mm. It's lovely. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
So we've got to start somewhere now to branch out of Devon | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
with the correct product and the correct marketing. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
I like them. What they are, though, is quite rural. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
-It's great, it's where it's from... -Yeah. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
..but we're obviously quite a city location. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
Something we're really good at as well is, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
if a restaurant as large as this or a chain as large as this, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
if you wanted to rebrand a product, I'm happy to look at that. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
Or one thing I love doing - Alex will probably kill me - | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
I love making different beers with different hops. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
'After weeks of getting him to focus on one beer, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
'I can't believe Paul is offering to brew small bespoke batches.' | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
Certainly the idea of maybe branding our own, if we've already got one of | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
our ales that's branded, perhaps to have our own again | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
and work with you and develop something. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
'This was not what we planned and I was expecting much more from Paul. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
'He needs to stick to our strategy if we're ever going to get his beers | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
'out of Devon, let alone the country.' | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
-So I think you've got to say "no" a bit more. -Mm-hm. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
Although brewing for them a whole batch might have been appealing, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
it isn't particularly financially viable. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
I do have trouble saying "no" | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
and I saw a different opportunity and I shouldn't have done that. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
I should have gone down the route of protecting Royal Hunt. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
The last thing we need is for you to do another bloody speciality beer. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
-OK. -Yeah? | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
You should come up for three or four days and organise ten meetings a day | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
and then, once we get the automated bottling plant up and running | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
and once we've got the new branding in place, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
you can press the button and start actioning all those orders. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
I just don't want the bottling plant to be sitting there | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
and us not have anything to put through it. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
Let's get on the ball, basically. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
'I feel a bit frustrated.' | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
I'm trying to improve his profitability. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
What we really want is to drive demand for Paul's beer. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
You want someone to have Royal Hunt in one place | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
and look for Royal Hunt in another. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
That's how successful businesses work. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
I've let Alex down. I definitely regressed into the old Paul. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
I've got a fair idea of what Alex is expecting now | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
so, when we revisit Bristol, I've got a good feeling | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
that we'll get some beer in this area. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
'I've had to rein Paul in to keep him on course with our strategy. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
Just Google... | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
"Bristol drinks wholesalers" or something like that. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
'This time, not only his he staying on message | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
'but he's now contacting wholesalers and going great guns | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
'to get his beer into Bristol.' | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
Go on, give me the phone. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
Hello, my dear. This is Paul from Hunter's Brewery. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
Yeah. We are trying to launch our brand into Bristol. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
# He's got high hopes... # | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
Your company keeps popping up | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
as a good way in to distribute our products. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
What wholesalers will do is improve his reach. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
In return for that, they'll expect a discounted product. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
He has to remember what his margins are. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
He has to remember the exact figure it costs him to produce his beer | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
and he must not deviate or dip below that figure. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
'Wholesalers expect sizable discounts, often around 20%, | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
'but if Paul can sell to them in volume | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
'he stands to make good profits.' | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
So I am wondering if I can come in and see you on Friday | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
with some product? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
Yeah. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:14 | |
That's lovely. Cheers, buddy. Bye-bye. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
-That's quite a positive call. -That's good, isn't it? | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
That was a real positive call. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
We've got to get our game heads on that day, then. Are you up for that? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
-Do I need to buy a new suit? -What have you got? | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
I can't fit into mine. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
'Paul is working hard to grow the business and he's starting to pay | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
'more attention to the financial situation of Hunter's, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
'which proves to me he's becoming more of a businessman | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
'and not just a brewer.' | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
Divided by 46, times by 52... | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
'Not only has he cut back on spending, but he's getting | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
'more efficient in the day-to-day running of the brewery.' | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
I had a big week in ordering materials. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
We're ordering materials a little bit differently. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
Order a little bit more, get a little bit more off. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
We save money in the long run. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
We're on a £440,000-£450,000 turnover this year. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
Turnover is going up in the right direction | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
and we're controlling this spend. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
Paul, I'm happy with this because I know you get it | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
and I know you're looking at it so I'm perfectly happy with this. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Eline has seen a difference in me. She's seen a more motivated person. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
I'm more well into trying to make things work. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
I check the break-evens every day. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
I watch it going up and down. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
Erm, so every day I then look at... | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
if it's going down, why is the profit going down? | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
Before, I wouldn't have had a clue, so that's the difference. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
'I'm heading back to Hunter's for the final time. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
'I'm not sure what I'm coming back to but for the sake of the business, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
'I really hope the new bottling machine is working out.' | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
I would love this to actually be a success. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
I feel so passionately about Hunter's Brewery | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
and I feel so fond of Paul and Eline, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
I just do not want this to cock-up again. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
To get to this point, it has been an amazing struggle. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
A lot has been riding on bottling beer automatically | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
because this is our strategy for building the business and moving it forward. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
It's been hard work the last two or three weeks, putting this equipment in. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
The other thing I'm really worried about is... | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
the knock-on effect it would have on Paul's confidence | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
if this machine isn't up and running. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
When I first came to Hunter's Brewery, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
Paul's mojo was at an all-time low, as he admitted himself, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
and I don't want to find him back in that situation. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
Gosh, here we are. Here we go! | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
Fingers crossed for the bottling line. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
-Hello, hello! -Hello. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
-How are you? -Good. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
Really well. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
-Look at this thing of beauty! -A little bit different, isn't it? | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
-It's enormous. -It is. I've never heard that before, Alex. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
This looks like the real deal. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
We're lucky, we've got the engineers... | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
Look at Alex! | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
-Thanks, Alex. -I'm so pleased for you. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
-It's good, isn't it? -Yes! I can't believe it. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
-Can't believe it. -Do you feel like it's a weight of your shoulders? | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
Of course it is. It's really good, Alex, yeah. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
We can move on now, can't we? | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
'I can't believe Paul's pulled it off. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
'He's still using the old labels until he runs out of stock | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
'but now he can get bottling.' | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
Just get the machine going. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
It'll come down and label the bottle, it'll fill the bottles, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
and this will put a cap on the bottles | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
rather than that hand thing we were doing. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
It will come out the other side and down to the person that's pulling the bottles off. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
But we've kept the old piece of kit. Our museum! | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
It's great, isn't it? | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
We can bottle the same batch of beer in half the time | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
-and with less people. -With half the number of people. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
Yay! | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
Brilliant, darling. Really well done. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
-Hi! -Hi, darling. -Hello. Lovely to see you. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
So...how are things? | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
Very excited. I mean, it's all actually here. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
When they had another day in Bristol, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
-they saw a few big wholesalers. -How did that all go? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Well, two of those bog wholesalers that are national wholesalers | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
have got us listed with them and have actually taken ground stock. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
-Good. -Yes. Hooray! | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
I think Paul has finally let the debacle of the last machines go. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
Yeah. I think Trading Standards will be getting involved at some point | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
but we'll just wait and see on that. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
At the moment it's just about moving forward. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
How is he? Is he still keeping a close eye on the figures? | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
Oh, my God! Yes, he's really, really good. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
Absolutely his mindset has changed because the minute | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
that that's what you're looking at, it just alters your whole plan. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
He is in a much, much better place, mentally and physically, actually. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:26 | |
-He seems quite calm. -Yeah, he is. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
Both of us are under no illusions this is not out of the water... | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
I know, but you'd be an idiot if you thought that. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
The fact that we both understand that | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
rather than one painting one picture and one the other... | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
Trying to balance it out! | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
We're now in the middle somewhere and I think that's alleviated the whole pressures of everything | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
which is good because it's saved the marriage as well. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
-Oh, I'm glad you're getting on well. I'm so glad, darling. -All good. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
'Four months ago, they were at breaking point, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
'but with a little help from me and masses of hard work from them, | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
'we've brought the business back from the brink. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
'But I know Paul is still desperate to send his beers abroad.' | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
First time I came to the brewery... | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
you told me you thought you had the silver bullet to all your problems | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
and that was going to be taking your beer down the export route, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
which I took issue with, not because I didn't think overall | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
it could be a strategy at some point in the future | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
but because there were a lot more | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
immediate and pressing problems to tackle. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
It's pretty amazing how much you've done in the time. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
-You're much more focused on the business side of things. -Yeah. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
We have a bottling plant in, you've got deals with wholesalers. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
As a result, I've decided that I will... | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
help you dip your toe in the water of export | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
and I'm going to send you off to France this afternoon | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
to meet someone called Richard Wilson who runs Yummies, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
which is a company specialising in promoting British products | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
into the French market. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
To try and help you, I have prepared your labels in French. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
Slightly tweaked the colour | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
because green is a colour that commands trust in France. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
As you'll see, the back... | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
-is now all in French. -Very good. -Wow. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
-The main thing is to see whether he thinks that if this is the kind of product that has legs. -Definitely. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
The other thing is, you don't have to go all dressed up. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
They're quite casual in France in meetings. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
This is my last visit with you. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
I've got to admit, it was tough at the beginning, but... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
just a change of mindset for me, looking at the figures | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
and realising where the spend was going has made a massive difference. It's been amazing. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
There we go. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
'I'm really sad to be saying goodbye to Paul and Eline | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
'and that my time with Hunter's Brewery has come to an end.' | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
They are at the very beginning. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
It's only just calmed down and got onto an even keel. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
I really can only see them going from strength to strength. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
Oh, hello, my dear. Are you all right there? | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
-Where are you travelling to? -To Paris, my dear. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
-Have you got your passport? -I have. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
'British beer exports are worth more than £600 million | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
'and we send over £90 million of beer to France. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
'If Paul's meeting with Richard goes well, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
'it could give Hunter's a foothold in the foreign market | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
'and open up the path to export. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
The French beer market is an extremely difficult market to break into | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
but we're already working with a number of microbreweries | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
and I certainly think a British microbrewery could be something we could add to our portfolio. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
'Can Paul impress | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
'and will Royal Hunt prove worthy enough to take on France?' | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
We've done some rebranding of one of our products, which is Royal Hunt. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
-If I show you that... -Sure. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
I mean, first off, mentioning "britanniques" - British, is good, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
and "traditionelles", having those in big letters on the front of the label is a good thing. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:13 | |
-Is there any idea of putting a Union Jack somewhere? -Do you think that would go down well? -It would. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
It would be very eye-catching straight away before anybody gets the time to read it. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
The image and the logo, obviously what it represents. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
-Shall we check a bottle out? -Sure. OK. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
-This is how the label will look on the bottle. -It's a beautiful label anyway. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:32 | |
In France, there's quite a following of hunting. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
The green is very royal, in a way. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
-Good. Shall we open one? -It's just about midday, isn't it? | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
We can taste. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
It is quite cloudy, isn't it? Having something cloudy is fine | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
because they're used to their white beer - biere blanche. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
-They're used to that coming out cloudy. You want to chink? -Cheers. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
-Mm. That's falling down the mouth lovely. -Yeah. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
That's certainly a very easy drink, isn't it? | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
Richard, the Royal Hunt, do you think this has a place in France? | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
Erm... | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
MUSIC: "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" by Edith Piaf | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
Bonjour, Alex. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
Bonjour, mon ami. Hi, Paul. How are you? | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
Very well indeed. In Paris, looking straight at the Eiffel Tower. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
It's beautiful. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
Good. Was it successful is all I care about. Forget the Eiffel Tower. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:27 | |
Alex, we went through the prospects of will Royal Hunt be good for France | 0:57:27 | 0:57:33 | |
and the answer to that is he believes it could be. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
Yes, a very good scenario and I still believe for the future | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
that this is a good opening. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
I'm so pleased for you, Paul. I am so very pleased for you, darling. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
Thank you, Alex. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
Bye. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:48 | |
Very good. Very happy lady on the other end of the phone. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
I can't see that it's the end of the journey. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
I think we'll see Alex again. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
I really can. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
I'd love to see the Royal Hunt symbol at the top of there at some point. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
Wouldn't that be fantastic? | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
What if we can achieve that one? That would be good, wouldn't it? | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
'Hunter's have now signed with two Bristol wholesalers | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
'and a pub company and are on the verge of a supermarket deal | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
'that could see their beer stocked in 90 stores | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
'and the bottling machine is still going strong.' | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 |