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'Small firms form the backbone of Britain.

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'They turn over annually £1,600 billion. If they fail...'

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-I can't do it!

-'..Britain would be on its knees.'

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-Death is my exit plan.

-'But these firms face big challenges.'

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It's not easy.

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The shop's going downhill and we'll be closed in a year's time.

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'Almost a third of all small firms go bust within three years.'

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If we don't make those payments, the house goes.

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'I'm Alex Polizzi, a small business owner myself,

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'and I'm spending this year trying to find fixes for the critical

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'issues that kill so many companies...'

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You should be thinking on your feet.

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Ah, come on. We don't have long to prepare.

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'..home truths...'

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I hate your shop window!

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You should not be in business!

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'..and tough times lie ahead.'

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All I have heard about is you bitching and moaning!

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-You've ripped my

-BLEEP

-heart out!

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'If small businesses succeed...'

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It's not just my business you've given me back, it's my confidence.

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'..then Britain can boom.

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'This time, exporting.'

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This business is an animal. We threw £50,000 worth of beer down the drain.

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-'Can I show a small firm...'

-That's crap, innit?

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'..how to shape up...'

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He's not allowed to spend one more penny.

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'..in order to ship out?'

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If I fail, I'm letting the kids down.

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He's physically in pieces and I don't know how long that can go on.

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This is a kick right in between the legs.

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We're up a certain creek without a paddle.

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'Last year, the UK exported over £300 billion worth of goods,

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'helping to make Britain the fourth most valuable national brand.

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'For some small businesses,

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'exporting can mean success and growth,

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'but, for others, it can be an extremely risky move.'

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British products have always been popular throughout the world and

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are ever more so with the success of the Olympics and the royal wedding.

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Lots of small businesses already export, but for the newcomer,

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there are many challenges to confront during that process.

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I've got the Pheasant Plucker, Half Bore...

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One struggling microbrewery in Devon thinks jumping on the export

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bandwagon is their only hope of survival.

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What countries do you think you might want to export to?

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-I don't know.

-I don't know where to start.

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Six years ago, owner Paul Walker gave up a high-flying

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corporate career to turn his passion for beer into a business.

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I used to work in pharmaceuticals, as a professional relations manager.

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I'd had a bad week at work,

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so I wrote a business plan on an aeroplane on how to set

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a microbrewery up, as a bit of fun cos I was bored.

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But then it sort of dawned on me this is what I should be doing.

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Paul found his slice of country life in some old farm sheds

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and set about making a living from producing good beer for local pubs.

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This is the best bit.

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That's hot worts coming out, nice extract.

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I come from a very working-class background.

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So microbrewing I wouldn't say is in my blood, but working hard is.

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Ah! That is good!

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But without any experience of brewing,

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Paul was quickly out of his depth.

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It's the first business I've set up myself.

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It's a bit of a shocker how much you have to learn.

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I've made many mistakes. All went wrong.

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I'd bought the wrong kit, it wasn't fit for purpose.

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So, we had to spend a lot of money putting the brewery right.

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And it became a habit to throw money at every problem he faced.

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Instead of being in profit,

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I've spent half a million pounds on the brewery.

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Paul remortgaged the house and spent his savings on the brewery,

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but the huge spend came with even bigger problems.

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It just sort of snowballed, it carried on snowballing.

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It was just every time you have to invest to put problems right,

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it meant that the only thing you could do was sell more beer

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and grow, and every time you grew, it needed more investment.

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To try and arrest the financial meltdown, Paul's wife Eline,

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gave up her job as a nursery nurse to join the business,

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but she was also in over her head.

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What are the supplier invoices? How far are we behind?

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-Got about three and a half thousand there.

-Can you pay them?

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Not today, no. I don't really understand finances.

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I haven't come from this kind of background at all

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and it's been a massive learning curve.

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Even now, I don't fully know what I'm supposed to be looking at

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when these numbers churn out at the end of every month.

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Their financial naivety and Paul's excessive spending has

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caused the business to balloon out of control.

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And six years in, despite brewing nine beers

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and supplying 200 local pubs, they're not making a penny's profit.

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I'll take you to the cinema IF we can go for a bike ride.

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Paul's family have followed him with his dream,

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but now, their future is on the line.

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Our investment now is linked to the house.

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Not only will the business go, the house will go.

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If I fail, I'm not just letting Eline down, I'm letting the kids down.

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At work, he'll just carry on and do the job and keep everyone going.

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But the dad you see at home, who is a dad to four kids...

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-SHE SOBS

-..I don't want him to be doing stuff.

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He's physically in pieces and I don't know how long that can go on.

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They're desperate to turn the business around,

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and with 48% of their turnover taxed at source in the UK,

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they see export as their last chance of a future.

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If our exporting ideas don't work, I think there is

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limited time before it is unworkable and the cash flow is completely gone.

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Hm. It is tough.

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Paul really needs my help.

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But sending beers abroad now could land the brewery in deep water.

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I see business owners again and again who make massive

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decisions just cos their gut instinct tells them to do so.

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As with anything else,

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exporting is not a decision that should be taken lightly.

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With Alex, I'm just hoping that she's got some good ideas to help us

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cos if we don't get some help now and we don't sort this out,

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we lose everything.

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I suspect that Paul doesn't really understand where he's going

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wrong and I'm not going to make any decisions about how to take

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the brewery forward until I know he's got the business basics right.

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-Hello, hello!

-Hello there. Hello, Alex!

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-Hello. How are you?

-Nice to meet you, Alex.

-So nice to be here.

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Welcome to Hunter's Brewery.

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-So, how many pints does one of these hold?

-72 pints.

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So, how much is in here at the moment?

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At the moment, there's about 400 casks in here.

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-So, we're getting low, actually.

-I'm just wondering,

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I don't know you well enough to accuse you of arrogance quite

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yet, but I'm wondering why you didn't get someone who was

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incredibly expert right at the beginning.

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Well...when we got the brewery in, it was in January,

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and you can make beer very easily when it's cold,

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so we did the first one and it came out so nice...

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-This is easy!

-We thought, "This is easy."

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I really did. So I thought I could manage it, but I was wrong.

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This isn't critical, but this has been clearly a process that

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has involved an enormous amount of trial and error.

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Yeah, we've served our apprenticeship in how to do it wrong.

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'I think he's made mistakes cos he's very confident.

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'He obviously thinks he can turn his hand to anything,

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'and I like that can do attitude in some ways.

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'In others, it's very dangerous cos actually experience does

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'count for a lot.

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'But moving from the corporate world to the country with no

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'experience of brewing, it's easy to see how Paul got into trouble.

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'Many small businesses dream of becoming bigger enterprises

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'and expand too quickly.

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'Paul's dream has snowballed into half a million pound

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'expenditure on kit.'

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This vessel here is the hot liquor tank.

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Liquor in the brewing industry is water.

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And we need to bring water up to the boil. This tank, we bought on eBay.

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Transfer your hot liquor, or hot water, into the mash tun...

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Into that, yeah.

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You add in your barley and your ingredients, stir it...

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Secret ingredients!

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You make it look like a porridge and that tricks out the natural

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sugar and that's called wort and that's the base of your beer.

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We picked up a massive tank from eBay...

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I'm sure your wife hates your internet auction site obsession.

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Look at the money that's gone down here!

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She does panic cos she's wondering what I'm going to buy next.

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I know. Darling, I mean, men have a lot of perverted desires,

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but yours is possibly the sickest!

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-Stainless steel! That's what I want!

-That is sexy, though.

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'It's clearly a labour of love, but this investment is enough to

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'cripple his business if he's not selling enough beer.'

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-OK. So this is a perfect fermentation.

-And it's very pretty.

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'95% of the ale brewed in these tanks is sold in casks to pubs

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'and over half of all pubs carry cask ale.

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'But the cask business alone doesn't bring in enough money to sustain

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'Hunter's Brewery, so Paul's turning his attention to bottling beers.'

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Ah, the merry bottling crew! Ho-ho!

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-You're still smiling?

-Still smiling!

-Gosh, through the pain!

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'Paul can get more money selling bottles than he gets selling casks.

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'If I do decide he's ready to export, there's big

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'opportunities for bottled beers abroad and no excise duty to pay.

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'But this method of bottling is unworkable!'

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We won a contract last year for 25,000 bottles

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and we did 5,000 bottles a week. Took us five weeks.

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Ah! And did you make money from that?

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Unfortunately, no, because we put four members of staff on it.

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-Yeah.

-So, no.

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'Last year, Paul took a massive gamble

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'and spent £45,000 on a bottling machine.

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'But as yet, there's no sign of it

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'and it's left a huge gaping hole in the business.

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'If this doesn't turn up, he's blown an extraordinary amount of money.'

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So this is where the new automated bottling machine will be.

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Tell me, when is this supposed to come?

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-September 2013.

-Yes. So, we're now almost six months over.

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Yes. I spoke to them on Friday and they reassured me

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they are making the machine.

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I believe in people and I believe we're going to get it.

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And you didn't build in any penalties for late delivery,

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-or anything? Obviously!

-No.

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Stupidity. My own naivety.

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How does Eline feel?

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She's furious about the machine cos we've paid the money.

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She's losing a bit of confidence in the business itself.

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She's asked me would I seriously sell the business.

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-But what are you going to sell it for?

-It's not worth anything.

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-It's not worth anything until you turn a profit.

-Yeah.

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'I think it will be a disaster

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'for the business if that bottling machine'

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doesn't appear because it's a huge financial commitment that he can ill

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afford, but at the moment, he needs to go back to basics.

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He needs to concentrate on his original dream,

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he needs to make that work for him, and only then, maybe, if this

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bloody thing ever appears, will be able to take the next step.

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'Before I can make a plan for Hunter's, I've asked Paul to work

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'out precisely how much it cost to

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'run the company and produce his product.

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'It's something all small business owners should be doing.'

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-Oh,

-BLEEP.

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'I leave Paul to start number crunching.

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'Eline's had no choice but to get involved in the business,

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'so I want to find out from her how it's affecting their family.'

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So let me talk to you about that mythical thing -

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-the work-life balance.

-The work-life balance!

-How is it?

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There have been times when it's just been completely ridiculous.

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The hours that you've put in this office used to be at home.

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Well, then, you never ever switch off.

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The phone's ringing all day.

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You've still got a toddler round by your legs. It was awful!

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Our family life and our lives as people,

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that's not right at the moment. Far, far from right. And he knows that.

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His health is telling him that.

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He's a shell of the guy that he used to be at home.

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He is! That's the truth!

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When he quit his job, they were almost mortgage-free.

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Now, their house is over 50% mortgaged again.

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This business can't go on losing them money, can't go on limping from

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one month to the next, one year to the next,

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by taking out their equity in their house. They have four kids!

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He's got to get serious at some point!

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Eline admits she doesn't have the skills to manage the figures

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and Paul is allowing his passion for the product to cloud

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the business realities

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and it's driving Hunter's and his marriage into the ground.

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Paul has had to refocus

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and work out how much beer he needs to sell a week just to break even.

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-So what have you discovered?

-OK, this is my old spreadsheet.

-Yeah.

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We were looking at a 68 barrels for break even.

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-Yeah.

-However, now I've put the correct figures in...

-Hm.

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..we are now 106 casks. I'm a bit gutted at that.

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And that doesn't factor in repaying any loans.

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Er...no. it doesn't actually.

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So just put that in and just see what difference...

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That is a good point.

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-Pushes it to 110.

-That is if you do not spend another penny.

-Yeah.

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-On anything.

-Yes.

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-I can learn this.

-I know you can.

-I can learn this.

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It's just being willing to.

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'No wonder Hunter's hasn't been turning a profit.

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'Paul needs to sell £90,000 more beer a year just to cover

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'the costs of the brewery.'

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I've had my eye on the production itself and the customers, rather

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than the business and I think I've got to get better at the business.

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'It's becoming clear that to improve this small business,

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'I need to dramatically increase sales.

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'There could be opportunities for Hunter's to start exporting abroad,

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'but first I need to make sure there is a solid UK distribution strategy.

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'Paul must also do his part and become more frugal with

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'the finances, or risk getting the brewery deeper into trouble.

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'But first, we're heading to the

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'pub for a pint of Devon Dreamer, Paul's own bestselling beer.'

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Are you glad you did this?

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I know that on paper it looks crap, but what we've achieved is amazing.

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-Our family are all very proud of it, you know.

-Yeah.

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They all want it to work.

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Lovely.

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Cheers.

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-Look at me with a pint of real ale!

-And I've got my old man's glass.

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I'm very conscious of the fact that I was asked to come here cos

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you were interested in me helping you bring your product to export.

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-Yes.

-I would love, before we approach the whole export dilemma,

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to consider exporting beyond Devon's borders.

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-But even that is problematic until we have a bottling plant.

-Yes.

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-I think you have to do a trip down to...your machine makers.

-Yes.

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I think you need to see for your own eyes.

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I think that as soon as you get this bottling plant that you will

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get an automatic spring in your step again.

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You'll get your mojo back and I want to make sure that it's kind of...

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I'm losing it, I'm sorry.

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-Why?

-I don't know. I'm sorry.

-Oh, it's fine.

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It's just, you know, you've got to find it...

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-You've got to find it again.

-Mm.

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-I have. OK.

-Yeah?

-I'll take it fully on board.

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I think what Paul's going through is probably

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the experience of a lot of small business owners.

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You have a dream and then translating that into reality

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is incredibly hard.

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I just think that he's kind of lost faith in himself

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and that must be very hard for him and I'm sure very hard for his wife.

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I did get choked up. This means so much to us. Yeah.

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It's not been easy.

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We've got to succeed.

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To ready the Hunter's brand for UK distribution, I'm going

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to look at everything, from taste and branding

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to their sales strategy, but before I can move forward,

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I need Paul to get this bottling machine.

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Alex has given me a kick in the bum, so before Alex comes to see me

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next, I want to get that machine in.

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His whole strategy has been posited on having that machine.

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Without it, we're up a certain creek without a paddle.

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There is a lot of pressure on me now to get bottling.

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It's important we sort this out today.

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I would give any small business the advice to get some proper

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references from anyone that you're thinking of buying machinery from.

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Check them out in person and not to commit your money

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until you're absolutely sure that they're on the up and up.

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'I've asked Paul to meet

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'the manufacturers at their headquarters 200 miles away.'

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We're here.

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'But our cameras have been refused permission to film,

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'so he's going in alone.'

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OK.

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I've got a posh pen as well to make myself look professional.

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I know Alex said I'm not allowed to spend any money,

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but I thought I'd get away with three quid.

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Right.

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Wish me luck.

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Two hours later, Paul emerges from the meeting.

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Not good. I'm not happy.

0:18:310:18:33

I'm not happy at all.

0:18:330:18:36

Not happy. Unbelievable.

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Unbelievable.

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The coding machine is not there. The capping machine they've...

0:18:420:18:46

-I just can't explain it. It's a bag of

-BLEEP.

0:18:460:18:51

This is a kick right in between the legs.

0:18:530:18:56

Hard.

0:18:560:18:57

Erm...

0:19:000:19:02

It's not funny.

0:19:020:19:03

Hello, Alex. It's Paul.

0:19:050:19:07

'Hi, darling. What's happened?'

0:19:070:19:09

This is a machine that should be doing 3,000 bottles an hour

0:19:090:19:12

and it's just Mickey Mouse.

0:19:120:19:15

'I'm just so cross for you, darling. I really am.

0:19:150:19:17

-'I'm really, really sorry.'

-What do we do for the best here?

0:19:170:19:21

'Well, I don't know.

0:19:220:19:25

'Do nothing kneejerk until you have a really good long think.'

0:19:250:19:28

-Yeah.

-'Because I think there's been lots of kneejerk reaction.'

-Mm.

0:19:280:19:32

'There's always, always, a solution. There really is. We'll find one.'

0:19:320:19:36

-Mm. Absolutely. I agree.

-'All right, my darling.

0:19:360:19:39

'Thank you for calling me. I really appreciate it.'

0:19:390:19:42

No worries. Have a good day.

0:19:420:19:45

She's right.

0:19:450:19:47

I'd like to have my kneejerk reaction,

0:19:470:19:49

just to make myself feel better, but that's not business, is it?

0:19:490:19:53

The saga of the bottling machine is emotionally draining.

0:19:560:20:00

You've got no reason to think that this would have happened.

0:20:000:20:05

For Paul, it has definitely been setback after setback.

0:20:050:20:08

He bottles it up, which means that every now and again,

0:20:080:20:11

the stress level does get too much.

0:20:110:20:14

And I think just it means that generally,

0:20:140:20:16

he gets just emotionally and physically very exhausted, actually.

0:20:160:20:21

This is a huge blow.

0:20:210:20:22

The best that can happen is that the machine eventually turns up

0:20:220:20:26

and works! The worst is that he's thrown £45,000 down the drain.

0:20:260:20:30

Any hope of exporting bottled beer has now vanished

0:20:300:20:34

and I need to think quickly about how I keep this business afloat.

0:20:340:20:37

My only choice is to focus on increasing the sale of Paul's

0:20:410:20:45

cask ales and getting them further afield than Devon.

0:20:450:20:49

Sharp's in Cornwall also started as a small hobby brew, like Hunter's,

0:20:490:20:53

and now sell their flagship beer in 7,000 outlets across Britain.

0:20:530:20:58

Look at that! They're big, aren't they?

0:20:580:21:01

'I think small firms can learn a lot from larger ones

0:21:010:21:04

'and I want to tap into Sharp's strategy for growing their

0:21:040:21:07

'beer across the UK, so I've asked the brand manager James for help.'

0:21:070:21:12

So you've seen the ripple effect.

0:21:120:21:14

-You started here and presumably, you started with local free pubs.

-Yeah.

0:21:140:21:20

But then the next big move was moving outside Cornwall.

0:21:200:21:23

-Yes.

-So, how did that happen?

0:21:230:21:26

Well, kind of word of mouth, I think.

0:21:260:21:28

There was obviously not big sort of advertising or above the line

0:21:280:21:32

kind of marketing campaigns.

0:21:320:21:34

Grew to Exeter, but by bit, just opened it up, account by account.

0:21:340:21:38

So I'd be out there in my little hire car with my Burton's suit

0:21:380:21:41

and my briefcase, knocking on doors and trying to open up that

0:21:410:21:44

business and fortunately, it was sort of successful.

0:21:440:21:47

What was the kind of thinking behind it?

0:21:470:21:49

It was almost dictated to us,

0:21:490:21:50

we had to be able to deliver to Land's End.

0:21:500:21:52

To get to Land's End, it takes and hour and a half.

0:21:520:21:54

I think we knew that Exeter has the farthest range in that direction.

0:21:540:21:58

-Draw a little radius.

-Exactly that.

0:21:580:22:01

We started the distribution from Bristol,

0:22:010:22:03

we then worked back to Exeter.

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So our Bristol depot could service everything on the kind of

0:22:050:22:07

east side, and then the Rock obviously on the west side of that.

0:22:070:22:11

And the strategy at that point was to really make

0:22:110:22:13

Doom Bar a kind of top ten, if not top five, national brand.

0:22:130:22:17

This is a lesson to all small businesses.

0:22:200:22:23

The reason big companies get bigger and more successful

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is because they strategise.

0:22:260:22:28

Sharp's distribution strategy was to get one flagship brand

0:22:300:22:34

put on the road.

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They chose which brand by rigorous testing.

0:22:350:22:38

Paul's beers have won awards

0:22:380:22:39

but out of competition he relies on his own palate and instinct.

0:22:390:22:43

He needs expert impartial input.

0:22:430:22:45

So I've asked Sharp's master brewer to help us

0:22:450:22:48

decide which beer to get behind.

0:22:480:22:50

I've brought Paul's best beers to test, including Devon Dreamer -

0:22:500:22:53

the ale HE'S banking on.

0:22:530:22:55

-I don't do beer tastings.

-Right.

-I do lots of wine tastings.

0:22:570:23:00

So tell me what I'm looking for, when I taste a beer.

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Beer tasting is much more about excluding things

0:23:020:23:05

which customers don't enjoy.

0:23:050:23:07

So you're looking for off flavours

0:23:070:23:09

like butterscotch or rotten eggs, or kind of green apple,

0:23:090:23:12

those kind of unpleasant flavours.

0:23:120:23:14

The first thing you want to do is smell and sniff the beer.

0:23:140:23:17

It is important to swill it.

0:23:170:23:19

That basically allows the CO2 to come off

0:23:190:23:21

and pushes all the volatiles, all the fragrance from the beer.

0:23:210:23:23

And then take a good sniff. And then it's down to the palate test.

0:23:230:23:28

The whole of your mouth senses all the flavours that are in it -

0:23:310:23:33

the bitterness, the astringency, the sweetness

0:23:330:23:36

and the dryness that is there.

0:23:360:23:38

Are there certain characteristics that successful beers share?

0:23:380:23:41

Cleanness, crispness and a refreshing characteristic

0:23:410:23:45

is something which a successful beer always has.

0:23:450:23:47

-So, do you want go and get yours, then?

-Yes.

0:23:470:23:49

A bit nervous actually for him, with this connoisseur here.

0:23:510:23:54

-I'm known for speaking my mind, so...

-Yeah?

-Oh, I love that.

0:23:540:23:57

-We like that, don't we? We like that.

-We might.

0:23:570:23:59

-I don't know that Paul will.

-THEY CHUCKLE

0:23:590:24:02

What do you think of the labels?

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I'm not in love with the labels, to be honest with you.

0:24:030:24:06

They do not have the touch of a marketeer about them.

0:24:060:24:09

They look a little bit... the same as everyone else's.

0:24:090:24:12

ALEX GASPS

0:24:120:24:14

-Half Bore is a honey beer.

-Right.

0:24:140:24:17

-Critique on this one, please?

-Um, for me it's a little bit bitter.

0:24:200:24:24

If it's offering honey, there's not a lot of honey coming through.

0:24:240:24:28

All you get is quite a lot of hop bitterness on this one.

0:24:280:24:31

So I would hope for a little bit more sweetness.

0:24:310:24:35

It's not a balanced beer.

0:24:350:24:36

'This certainly isn't what I wanted to hear.

0:24:360:24:39

'And it's the first time Paul's had this kind of feedback.'

0:24:390:24:42

-Royal Hunt, then.

-Go on, then.

-We use Citra hop for a finish.

-Right.

0:24:420:24:47

And there's a lot of honey in this one.

0:24:470:24:48

-Comments?

-Yeah, that's good. That's good.

0:24:520:24:54

We always worry with Citra that you're going to get

0:24:540:24:57

real in-your-face, baseball-bat bitterness,

0:24:570:24:59

but that is a good subtle bitterness

0:24:590:25:01

and you're still getting the tropical fruit notes from that,

0:25:010:25:04

which is really good.

0:25:040:25:05

Stuart likes Royal Hunt

0:25:050:25:07

despite it being one of Paul's less popular ales.

0:25:070:25:10

But Devon Dreamer, his leading ale, is up next.

0:25:100:25:13

Devon Dreamer, 4.1% ABV.

0:25:130:25:16

A very simple process. We triple hop this.

0:25:160:25:20

'The name alone is a big draw for Hunter's local market,

0:25:200:25:23

'so it's no surprise it sells twice as much as the rest of the range.

0:25:230:25:26

'But can this beer alone carry the Hunter's brand?'

0:25:260:25:29

It's a good beer. The basics are there.

0:25:290:25:33

The clarity of flavour could be improved

0:25:330:25:36

and I think that is... potentially the boil.

0:25:360:25:39

Do you like it or do you not like it?

0:25:390:25:41

I wouldn't be happy if I brewed it.

0:25:410:25:43

-I've got to say I'm going to defend Devon Dreamer...

-Yeah.

0:25:430:25:46

..because you're the first person EVER to say that.

0:25:460:25:49

Another brewery from here could taste that and say it's the best thing

0:25:490:25:53

-they've ever tasted.

-Yes.

-So it's subjective.

-Yeah.

0:25:530:25:55

'It's not what I was expecting from a bestseller. Paul's taken it badly.

0:25:570:26:02

'But this is business and he needs to toughen up.'

0:26:020:26:05

-I think Alex thinks, "You've got to be

-BLEEP

-joking?"

-I know.

0:26:050:26:08

-I think you did amazingly well.

-Alex was shocked.

0:26:080:26:10

You saw the shock on her face.

0:26:100:26:12

-She did NOT expect that.

-I know.

0:26:120:26:14

I mean, it seems obvious to me.

0:26:140:26:16

The beer that should go outside Devon, which is Devon Dreamer,

0:26:160:26:19

it sells so much more than everything else.

0:26:190:26:21

However, it clearly wasn't a particular winner with Stuart.

0:26:210:26:24

So I'm not quite sure where that leaves us.

0:26:240:26:28

Maybe Devon Dreamer is successful in Devon just because of the name.

0:26:280:26:31

Perhaps Paul was overlooked Stuart's favourite - Royal Hunt.

0:26:310:26:35

Could this underdog ale be the answer?

0:26:350:26:38

I can't take the man from Doom Bar... his opinion as gospel.

0:26:380:26:43

No, I understand what you're saying.

0:26:430:26:45

-Because the only way to get a real test is blind tasting.

-I know.

0:26:450:26:50

I feel... I don't know. I don't know.

0:26:500:26:54

Am I being too overprotective of my brand?

0:26:540:26:56

A smidgen but that's OK, you're entitled to be, it's your beer.

0:26:560:27:00

-It is.

-So you're very entitled to be. So don't worry about it.

0:27:000:27:04

'I think the feedback from Stuart at Sharp's,'

0:27:040:27:08

I think it just put an inkling in his head, like a doubt in the back

0:27:080:27:12

of his mind, "Is my beer good enough?" Because it was questioned.

0:27:120:27:16

'Paul does struggle with negative feedback.

0:27:160:27:19

'We would all call Paul a confident person.'

0:27:190:27:21

He is very confident.

0:27:210:27:23

But actually his confidence does get easily knocked.

0:27:230:27:26

'Yeah, he just doesn't handle it terribly well. Yeah.'

0:27:260:27:29

'The tasting at Sharp's may have hit Paul harder than I expected.'

0:27:310:27:36

-Hello.

-Hello.

-Hi.

0:27:360:27:38

'So before we resume our search for a flagship beer,

0:27:390:27:42

'I've invited Paul and Eline to my home.'

0:27:420:27:45

So, tell me, how has everything been going since I last saw you?

0:27:470:27:51

I was worried that it would depress you or annoy you.

0:27:510:27:55

In some ways I was quite angry about it.

0:27:550:27:58

-It's easy to

-BLEEP

-on the chips of a smaller company, isn't it?

0:27:580:28:01

-Yes.

-But it's his opinion, he's entitled to it.

0:28:010:28:04

I don't think you have to take anybody's wholesale advice

0:28:040:28:06

apart from mine, of course.

0:28:060:28:07

I insist upon that.

0:28:090:28:10

So the plan for today is I've invited about 30 beer bloggers,

0:28:100:28:16

-sommeliers, members of the drinking public...

-OK.

0:28:160:28:19

..to come and taste your fine beer.

0:28:190:28:22

They will then vote on their preferred ones

0:28:220:28:25

and we will a clear winner.

0:28:250:28:26

-That would be the ideal scenario.

-Yes.

-Yeah.

0:28:260:28:28

We will have a flagship beer.

0:28:280:28:30

We will have the one that we really want to push.

0:28:300:28:32

How are you feeling about the taste test?

0:28:320:28:35

I was very nervous last night. I didn't sleep very well.

0:28:350:28:37

-I was worried about this.

-Why?

0:28:370:28:39

Well, I'm worried that people won't like any of the beers.

0:28:390:28:42

-I doubt it.

-If they say they're all crap.

0:28:420:28:45

It could happen, couldn't it?

0:28:450:28:47

I think, first of all, let's not worry about that.

0:28:470:28:49

I don't think that's a realistic fear.

0:28:490:28:52

Hopefully we will get and come away today with a much stronger sense

0:28:520:28:56

of where we're going with it next.

0:28:560:28:59

-Thank you.

-Come on.

0:28:590:29:00

'For this second taste test, we're sampling four beers including

0:29:000:29:04

'Paul's top seller Devon Dreamer and Stuart's standout ale Royal Hunt.

0:29:040:29:08

'I just hope this time we all agree on a winner.'

0:29:080:29:11

So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to The Calf in Clapham, my local.

0:29:120:29:17

We are going to do this in a very measured manner.

0:29:170:29:20

Each get a beer mat and I will ask you to vote for your favourite beer.

0:29:200:29:25

What else is there to say, except

0:29:250:29:27

goodness gracious me, it's time to start drinking. I mean tasting.

0:29:270:29:31

MUSIC: "I'm Pretty Good At Drinkin' Beer" by Billy Currington

0:29:320:29:36

# I wasn't born digging deep holes

0:29:360:29:39

# I'm not made for paving long roads

0:29:400:29:45

# I ain't cut out to climb high-line poles

0:29:450:29:49

# But I'm pretty good at drinking beer... #

0:29:490:29:51

Everyone's chatting. Nice atmosphere.

0:29:510:29:54

Paul's obviously very nervous.

0:29:540:29:56

I'm nervous. I want it to work.

0:29:560:29:58

I want to find out if...

0:29:580:30:00

I mean, I'm hoping they're going to like at least one of the beers.

0:30:000:30:03

We've never really done this before.

0:30:050:30:07

We've gone to beer festivals

0:30:070:30:08

and we've had it judged with everybody else's beer.

0:30:080:30:11

This is the first time we've had this with just our beer

0:30:110:30:14

in the room.

0:30:140:30:15

So it'll be interesting to see what people really do say and think.

0:30:150:30:19

# ..Built for having a ball... #

0:30:190:30:21

It's a good old-fashioned taste.

0:30:220:30:24

It's not for me at all. I prefer it a bit more pale aley.

0:30:240:30:27

Excuse the pun, it's very beery. I like beer to be beery.

0:30:270:30:30

I've got to take this opinion now, rough or smooth,

0:30:300:30:33

and I can't throw my toys out of my pram on this one.

0:30:330:30:38

This is the way it is, isn't it?

0:30:380:30:40

The cool, hard truth of the matter.

0:30:400:30:42

-What's your favourite then, overall?

-Overall? A.

-Yours?

-A.

-A.

0:30:420:30:48

-Just become A.

-A.

0:30:480:30:51

Unanimous - if it was just us.

0:30:510:30:54

Let's see if everyone else agrees.

0:30:540:30:56

-Cheers.

-Cheers.

0:30:570:30:58

# ..I'm pretty good at drinkin' beer. #

0:30:590:31:01

So I have the overall results.

0:31:020:31:06

Poor old D came trailing last which, interestingly enough, guys,

0:31:060:31:11

is their bestselling beer locally in Devon.

0:31:110:31:14

B, number three, Crack Shot. Then C, was number two, Half Bore.

0:31:150:31:22

So A was the clear winner.

0:31:240:31:26

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:31:260:31:28

So both your professional brewer and your drinking public agree.

0:31:280:31:34

And it's Royal Hunt. Royal Hunt is the one.

0:31:340:31:37

-Thank you very much, Alex.

-Thank you.

0:31:370:31:39

Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.

0:31:390:31:42

'It's a result.

0:31:420:31:43

'Royal Hunt came top, relegating Devon Dreamer into last place.

0:31:430:31:48

'At least now I've convinced Paul the former underdog beer

0:31:480:31:51

'is the right ale to champion.'

0:31:510:31:53

After the last beer tasting, I was very nervous.

0:31:530:31:56

What'd happen if people said this beer is no good?

0:31:560:31:59

Um...

0:31:590:32:01

They've no negative comments really about any of the beers.

0:32:010:32:05

I'm really pleased. So it's sort of put the argument to bed.

0:32:050:32:09

And back in Devon, there's some unexpected news.

0:32:110:32:14

Seven months late, most of the bottling machine has arrived.

0:32:170:32:21

The question is whether it's too Mickey Mouse to use.

0:32:210:32:25

Perfect.

0:32:270:32:28

ELECTRICAL WHIRRING

0:32:280:32:30

It's pumping. It's working.

0:32:320:32:35

With this machine up and running,

0:32:350:32:36

we'll be able to fulfil large bottle orders out of the county

0:32:360:32:40

and we may have the option to export when the time is right.

0:32:400:32:43

So, just push your bottles down.

0:32:430:32:46

-That's impressive, isn't it?

-So they're on the wrong end, yeah?

0:32:510:32:54

-Yeah.

-OK.

0:32:540:32:56

Eurgh!

0:32:590:33:02

Oh, that's crap, isn't it?

0:33:020:33:04

There's something wrong on the settings here.

0:33:060:33:09

All right.

0:33:110:33:13

-I've got my work cut out here...

-Well, yeah. For today...

-Yes?

0:33:190:33:24

..I would stop tinkering.

0:33:240:33:25

It would be too easy for it to run.

0:33:250:33:27

You're not achieving anything now by fiddling.

0:33:270:33:29

No, no, I don't we'll achieve anything.

0:33:290:33:31

I totally agree with you but don't talk to me like I'm a kid.

0:33:310:33:34

-No, I'm not.

-I totally get you.

0:33:340:33:35

-I do know.

-Yeah.

0:33:360:33:38

Paul and Eline have banked on this machine to the tune of £45,000.

0:33:390:33:44

So there's massive pressure for it to work.

0:33:440:33:47

Despite slaving over the machine day and night,

0:33:590:34:02

Paul's worst fears have been realised.

0:34:020:34:05

The bottling machine that we purchased,

0:34:050:34:07

we've try to commission it and there's many faults with it.

0:34:070:34:11

So we've decided to give up with it, put it to one side and start again.

0:34:120:34:16

It's been a nightmare.

0:34:170:34:18

So the plan is that we find a second-hand bottling machine,

0:34:200:34:25

bring it here, commission it and start bottling automatically.

0:34:250:34:30

We believe this is the way forward.

0:34:300:34:32

I know it's more money but I haven't got any choice at all in it.

0:34:320:34:36

I have to do this.

0:34:360:34:37

So, um, we can take all the advice in the world

0:34:370:34:41

but we can't carry on working the way we are.

0:34:410:34:44

Two months in, we're back to square one on the bottling front.

0:34:460:34:50

What are you going to do?

0:34:510:34:53

'We're lucky that we have some friends in the industry,

0:34:530:34:55

'who have a spare bottling line.

0:34:550:34:57

'They've just upgraded. They've got a small one which works.'

0:34:570:35:00

So...

0:35:000:35:02

I don't even know where to...

0:35:020:35:03

I just don't want you to go out and spend another whole load of money.

0:35:030:35:07

I just want you to take the decision-making as slowly as you can

0:35:070:35:09

because I really, really don't want to be involved

0:35:090:35:14

in you making a mistake.

0:35:140:35:16

'Alex, we are going to bottle beer. We have to -

0:35:160:35:19

'it's part of our business.

0:35:190:35:21

'And we have opportunities to grow our business massively.'

0:35:210:35:26

-Mm.

-'We have to do this, one way or the other, Alex.'

-OK.

0:35:260:35:30

Despite my advice about not spending a penny more,

0:35:300:35:34

Paul has made his mind up.

0:35:340:35:36

He's paid £20,000 for the new machine

0:35:360:35:39

by remortgaging the house, which horrifies me.

0:35:390:35:42

But it is HIS business so I have to respect it.

0:35:420:35:45

-ELINE:

-Paul's personality definitely lets him get through it.

0:35:450:35:48

He's got an incredible amount of self-belief that can,

0:35:480:35:51

I guess, come across as that he's arrogant.

0:35:510:35:54

But he isn't arrogant at all.

0:35:540:35:56

I think he just holds true to what he knows he can do

0:35:560:36:00

and he will never ever give up.

0:36:000:36:02

Before brewing, we have faced a lot of challenges.

0:36:020:36:05

What people don't know about me is I left school

0:36:050:36:08

when I was 12 years old with no qualifications whatsoever.

0:36:080:36:12

I managed to get a corporate job in pharmaceuticals

0:36:120:36:16

without a degree background and did very well at that.

0:36:160:36:20

So, in the face of adversity, I did very well

0:36:200:36:23

as realistically I shouldn't have done.

0:36:230:36:25

So there is that.

0:36:250:36:26

But sort of my background has given me the attitude I've got,

0:36:280:36:32

in that you don't give up, you must succeed.

0:36:320:36:34

We're back to bottling and the next thing

0:36:370:36:39

I need to do is reposition this product so it sells more.

0:36:390:36:42

But one has to tread carefully when considering rebranding.

0:36:420:36:47

In 1997, British Airways spent £60 million

0:36:470:36:50

rebranding its entire fleet of planes

0:36:500:36:53

by replacing the Union Flag trademark.

0:36:530:36:56

But it received a frosty response and the decision was soon reversed.

0:36:560:37:00

Others, like Compare The Market, did get it right.

0:37:020:37:05

The launch of its meerkat campaign in 2009,

0:37:050:37:07

boosted the brand's market share by 76%.

0:37:070:37:11

I think to help Paul stand out against some of the leading

0:37:120:37:15

beer brands, his mismatched labels need a radical overhaul.

0:37:150:37:19

So I've brought them to a London-based design agency for help.

0:37:190:37:22

ENTRY SYSTEM BUZZES

0:37:220:37:23

-Hi, this is Alex Polizzi and team.

-'OK. Come up.'

-Thanks.

0:37:230:37:27

Underscore have worked with some of the biggest British brands -

0:37:270:37:31

from Tesco to The Body Shop.

0:37:310:37:32

They've helped breweries like Beavertown update their look

0:37:320:37:35

and I'm hoping they can do the same for Hunter's.

0:37:350:37:39

We'd start by looking at you as you are today.

0:37:390:37:42

You've got a whole menagerie of different labels,

0:37:420:37:47

that looks like you have a very eclectic mix of beers.

0:37:470:37:51

But do they sit together as a family?

0:37:510:37:53

Even though there is some level of symmetry in the shape,

0:37:530:37:57

-they all look and feel different.

-Mm-hm.

0:37:570:37:59

From a design point of view,

0:37:590:38:01

which is ultimately how your brand would be connected,

0:38:010:38:04

you're working with different typography.

0:38:040:38:07

Some of them we've got a very dominant name

0:38:070:38:10

but then we suddenly veer over here into illustration.

0:38:100:38:15

And it's very important to get the balance right

0:38:150:38:17

between what the name is and what you're saying.

0:38:170:38:20

The name alone can be a reason to stop you

0:38:200:38:23

-getting into a certain country.

-Yeah.

0:38:230:38:25

There are cultural differences everywhere you look.

0:38:250:38:27

You will find, for example if you're looking geographically,

0:38:270:38:30

that certain nations have already OWNED a certain colour -

0:38:300:38:33

whether that's the blue, red, you know...

0:38:330:38:35

And it's usually primary colours, it has to be said.

0:38:350:38:37

It depends on how far afield you want go.

0:38:370:38:39

We don't want to strip this back until it is completely white.

0:38:390:38:42

Um, but at the same time, it's about giving you

0:38:420:38:46

a colour palette that feels right for your customers

0:38:460:38:48

and actually has that feeling of tradition,

0:38:480:38:50

whilst also being maybe a little bit more contemporary

0:38:500:38:53

and forward-thinking than this has been before.

0:38:530:38:55

Yeah, yeah.

0:38:550:38:56

-I know.

-The general trend is for less.

0:38:560:38:59

-Yes.

-Yeah, I think we need help, don't we?

0:38:590:39:01

-ALEX CHUCKLES

-Do you think(?)

0:39:010:39:03

-You never know.

-Do you think?

0:39:030:39:05

I want you to have a look at something.

0:39:050:39:07

We had to put together some brand values,

0:39:070:39:10

just based on what we did know about you,

0:39:100:39:12

to help inform our initial creative.

0:39:120:39:15

Have a look at these and tell me what resonates with you.

0:39:150:39:18

-Consistency.

-Consistency. Why?

0:39:180:39:21

Because all I've ever done is worked on that.

0:39:210:39:24

-Yes, that is my life, is getting the consistency.

-Yeah. Yeah.

0:39:240:39:28

-Great.

-Definitely cheeky.

0:39:280:39:31

"Pub speak", what do you mean by that?

0:39:310:39:33

You know, there's a difference between

0:39:330:39:35

-pub speak and bar speak.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:39:350:39:37

-That's the subtle difference.

-Yeah.

0:39:370:39:39

-Yeah?

-And informal is definitely where we are.

-Yeah, definitely.

0:39:390:39:43

I feel as well, we're kind of almost everyman.

0:39:430:39:46

He was your every guy you speak to, that was stuck in the job

0:39:460:39:51

with the family and the mortgage and he had to earn the money.

0:39:510:39:54

And he just thought...

0:39:540:39:56

-I can't do it any more. I'm sorry. All these words are exactly it.

-Aw!

0:39:560:40:01

Poor old wifey, look. She'll be all right in a minute.

0:40:010:40:05

-I was waiting for that. It was coming out anyway.

-It's

-BLEEP.

0:40:050:40:08

-It's that you've got to get it right.

-That's what it has to be.

0:40:080:40:11

It has to be real.

0:40:110:40:13

What we need to do is, you've got all the basics there,

0:40:130:40:16

-we just need to encapsulate that and really tell the story.

-OK.

0:40:160:40:19

'Neil and his team have put together four options to rebrand Hunter's

0:40:200:40:25

'and I want Paul and Eline to choose their favourite.'

0:40:250:40:28

What we're doing, we're taking the essence of where you were before

0:40:280:40:31

and we're bringing it up to date and we're taking it into the future.

0:40:310:40:35

It's got a certain amount of clarity in there

0:40:350:40:37

so that it feels more established.

0:40:370:40:40

-We're connecting with tradition...

-I like that.

-..to get that gut feel we were talking about before.

0:40:400:40:45

If you're reaching into new markets, if you're going further afield,

0:40:450:40:48

because of the geographic issues and the regional issues,

0:40:480:40:51

less is very much more.

0:40:510:40:54

Well, I'm leaving Paul and Eline there.

0:40:550:40:58

I know this discussion is going to go on for ages.

0:40:580:41:00

It's the first time they've ever done any exercise like this

0:41:000:41:04

and I don't think they're going to come to a decision in a moment.

0:41:040:41:07

I just hope that seeing these fantastic designs

0:41:070:41:10

is going to move on their thinking a bit

0:41:100:41:12

and help them with the big next steps they have to take.

0:41:120:41:17

I wasn't expecting it to be as good as that.

0:41:180:41:21

And I really...I thought I'd say, Alex, I don't want you to change

0:41:210:41:25

my branding too much, but it made a lot of sense in there.

0:41:250:41:28

So Alex is right yet again.

0:41:280:41:30

All four designs that were there were good in their own right

0:41:300:41:34

but one of them stuck out really well and, erm...

0:41:340:41:37

posh, smart,

0:41:370:41:39

but it's still down to earth, which is what we're trying to be.

0:41:390:41:44

'I'm confident that now the branding is more in keeping with

0:41:450:41:48

'the modern image of microbrewering,

0:41:480:41:50

'we have a better chance of rolling one beer out across the UK.

0:41:500:41:54

# Do it, do it, do it, do it Do it now... #

0:41:540:41:57

'And I'm wasting no time in finding out.

0:41:570:42:00

'I've brought Paul, his flagship ale and the new branding

0:42:010:42:04

'up the M5 corridor to Bristol - a cosmopolitan city

0:42:040:42:07

'that's embraced the ale movement.'

0:42:070:42:09

I think...it seems obvious to me that the first next place

0:42:110:42:14

you have to supply is somewhere with a high population

0:42:140:42:17

because there's an opportunity for a lot of sales.

0:42:170:42:20

Bristol has a lot of pubs and restaurants.

0:42:200:42:23

-Now, with the new bottling plant possibly coming online...

-Yes.

0:42:230:42:27

..there is the possibility for selling more in restaurants,

0:42:270:42:31

which would not sell cask but will sell bottles.

0:42:310:42:34

There's enough restaurants that I think you ought to be able to get

0:42:340:42:38

-20 or 30 to supply in Bristol, given a bit of leg-work.

-Yeah.

0:42:380:42:42

-We're just testing the water.

-I like it. Let's do it.

0:42:420:42:46

# Splish-splash, I was taking a bath... #

0:42:460:42:49

'This historic lido boasts an award-winning restaurant

0:42:490:42:52

'and I've heard the head chef is looking for a strong beer,

0:42:520:42:55

'so it's the perfect opportunity for Paul to push Royal Hunt

0:42:550:42:59

'and road test the new branding.'

0:42:590:43:01

Currently looking for something that's a bit gutsy we can use in the winter months.

0:43:020:43:06

Cooking pigs' cheeks and things like that.

0:43:060:43:08

That's the sort of thing that will work with that.

0:43:080:43:11

-Royal Hunt, a 5.5% strong winter beer, really.

-OK.

0:43:110:43:15

We've entered it into some national competition, and regional,

0:43:150:43:18

-and we won both.

-Sounds impressive.

0:43:180:43:20

Mm. It's lovely.

0:43:260:43:28

So we've got to start somewhere now to branch out of Devon

0:43:290:43:33

with the correct product and the correct marketing.

0:43:330:43:36

I like them. What they are, though, is quite rural.

0:43:370:43:40

-It's great, it's where it's from...

-Yeah.

0:43:400:43:43

..but we're obviously quite a city location.

0:43:430:43:46

Something we're really good at as well is,

0:43:460:43:49

if a restaurant as large as this or a chain as large as this,

0:43:490:43:52

if you wanted to rebrand a product, I'm happy to look at that.

0:43:520:43:57

Or one thing I love doing - Alex will probably kill me -

0:43:590:44:02

I love making different beers with different hops.

0:44:020:44:05

'After weeks of getting him to focus on one beer,

0:44:050:44:08

'I can't believe Paul is offering to brew small bespoke batches.'

0:44:080:44:13

Certainly the idea of maybe branding our own, if we've already got one of

0:44:130:44:17

our ales that's branded, perhaps to have our own again

0:44:170:44:20

and work with you and develop something.

0:44:200:44:23

'This was not what we planned and I was expecting much more from Paul.

0:44:250:44:29

'He needs to stick to our strategy if we're ever going to get his beers

0:44:290:44:33

'out of Devon, let alone the country.'

0:44:330:44:36

-So I think you've got to say "no" a bit more.

-Mm-hm.

0:44:360:44:40

Although brewing for them a whole batch might have been appealing,

0:44:400:44:44

it isn't particularly financially viable.

0:44:440:44:46

I do have trouble saying "no"

0:44:460:44:49

and I saw a different opportunity and I shouldn't have done that.

0:44:490:44:52

I should have gone down the route of protecting Royal Hunt.

0:44:520:44:55

The last thing we need is for you to do another bloody speciality beer.

0:44:550:44:59

-OK.

-Yeah?

0:44:590:45:01

You should come up for three or four days and organise ten meetings a day

0:45:010:45:05

and then, once we get the automated bottling plant up and running

0:45:050:45:09

and once we've got the new branding in place,

0:45:090:45:11

you can press the button and start actioning all those orders.

0:45:110:45:15

I just don't want the bottling plant to be sitting there

0:45:150:45:17

and us not have anything to put through it.

0:45:170:45:20

Let's get on the ball, basically.

0:45:200:45:22

'I feel a bit frustrated.'

0:45:230:45:25

I'm trying to improve his profitability.

0:45:250:45:27

What we really want is to drive demand for Paul's beer.

0:45:270:45:31

You want someone to have Royal Hunt in one place

0:45:310:45:33

and look for Royal Hunt in another.

0:45:330:45:36

That's how successful businesses work.

0:45:360:45:38

I've let Alex down. I definitely regressed into the old Paul.

0:45:380:45:42

I've got a fair idea of what Alex is expecting now

0:45:420:45:46

so, when we revisit Bristol, I've got a good feeling

0:45:460:45:49

that we'll get some beer in this area.

0:45:490:45:52

'I've had to rein Paul in to keep him on course with our strategy.

0:45:550:45:59

Just Google...

0:45:590:46:01

"Bristol drinks wholesalers" or something like that.

0:46:010:46:05

'This time, not only his he staying on message

0:46:050:46:09

'but he's now contacting wholesalers and going great guns

0:46:090:46:12

'to get his beer into Bristol.'

0:46:120:46:14

Go on, give me the phone.

0:46:150:46:17

Hello, my dear. This is Paul from Hunter's Brewery.

0:46:190:46:22

Yeah. We are trying to launch our brand into Bristol.

0:46:220:46:26

# He's got high hopes... #

0:46:260:46:29

Your company keeps popping up

0:46:290:46:32

as a good way in to distribute our products.

0:46:320:46:34

What wholesalers will do is improve his reach.

0:46:350:46:39

In return for that, they'll expect a discounted product.

0:46:390:46:42

He has to remember what his margins are.

0:46:420:46:46

He has to remember the exact figure it costs him to produce his beer

0:46:460:46:50

and he must not deviate or dip below that figure.

0:46:500:46:54

'Wholesalers expect sizable discounts, often around 20%,

0:46:550:47:00

'but if Paul can sell to them in volume

0:47:000:47:02

'he stands to make good profits.'

0:47:020:47:04

So I am wondering if I can come in and see you on Friday

0:47:060:47:11

with some product?

0:47:110:47:13

Yeah.

0:47:130:47:14

That's lovely. Cheers, buddy. Bye-bye.

0:47:140:47:17

-That's quite a positive call.

-That's good, isn't it?

0:47:180:47:21

That was a real positive call.

0:47:210:47:23

We've got to get our game heads on that day, then. Are you up for that?

0:47:230:47:27

-Do I need to buy a new suit?

-What have you got?

0:47:270:47:29

I can't fit into mine.

0:47:290:47:31

'Paul is working hard to grow the business and he's starting to pay

0:47:340:47:38

'more attention to the financial situation of Hunter's,

0:47:380:47:41

'which proves to me he's becoming more of a businessman

0:47:410:47:44

'and not just a brewer.'

0:47:440:47:46

Divided by 46, times by 52...

0:47:460:47:50

'Not only has he cut back on spending, but he's getting

0:47:500:47:53

'more efficient in the day-to-day running of the brewery.'

0:47:530:47:56

I had a big week in ordering materials.

0:47:560:47:58

We're ordering materials a little bit differently.

0:47:580:48:01

Order a little bit more, get a little bit more off.

0:48:010:48:04

We save money in the long run.

0:48:040:48:06

We're on a £440,000-£450,000 turnover this year.

0:48:060:48:09

Turnover is going up in the right direction

0:48:090:48:12

and we're controlling this spend.

0:48:120:48:14

Paul, I'm happy with this because I know you get it

0:48:150:48:18

and I know you're looking at it so I'm perfectly happy with this.

0:48:180:48:21

Eline has seen a difference in me. She's seen a more motivated person.

0:48:220:48:27

I'm more well into trying to make things work.

0:48:270:48:30

I check the break-evens every day.

0:48:300:48:34

I watch it going up and down.

0:48:340:48:36

Erm, so every day I then look at...

0:48:360:48:39

if it's going down, why is the profit going down?

0:48:390:48:43

Before, I wouldn't have had a clue, so that's the difference.

0:48:430:48:47

'I'm heading back to Hunter's for the final time.

0:48:510:48:54

'I'm not sure what I'm coming back to but for the sake of the business,

0:48:540:48:58

'I really hope the new bottling machine is working out.'

0:48:580:49:01

I would love this to actually be a success.

0:49:030:49:07

I feel so passionately about Hunter's Brewery

0:49:070:49:11

and I feel so fond of Paul and Eline,

0:49:110:49:13

I just do not want this to cock-up again.

0:49:130:49:16

To get to this point, it has been an amazing struggle.

0:49:170:49:21

A lot has been riding on bottling beer automatically

0:49:210:49:24

because this is our strategy for building the business and moving it forward.

0:49:240:49:27

It's been hard work the last two or three weeks, putting this equipment in.

0:49:270:49:31

The other thing I'm really worried about is...

0:49:310:49:34

the knock-on effect it would have on Paul's confidence

0:49:340:49:38

if this machine isn't up and running.

0:49:380:49:40

When I first came to Hunter's Brewery,

0:49:400:49:42

Paul's mojo was at an all-time low, as he admitted himself,

0:49:420:49:46

and I don't want to find him back in that situation.

0:49:460:49:50

Gosh, here we are. Here we go!

0:49:500:49:53

Fingers crossed for the bottling line.

0:49:530:49:56

-Hello, hello!

-Hello.

0:50:090:50:11

-How are you?

-Good.

0:50:120:50:14

Really well.

0:50:140:50:16

-Look at this thing of beauty!

-A little bit different, isn't it?

0:50:160:50:20

-It's enormous.

-It is. I've never heard that before, Alex.

0:50:200:50:24

This looks like the real deal.

0:50:240:50:27

We're lucky, we've got the engineers...

0:50:270:50:29

Look at Alex!

0:50:290:50:31

-Thanks, Alex.

-I'm so pleased for you.

0:50:310:50:34

-It's good, isn't it?

-Yes! I can't believe it.

0:50:340:50:37

-Can't believe it.

-Do you feel like it's a weight of your shoulders?

0:50:370:50:41

Of course it is. It's really good, Alex, yeah.

0:50:410:50:44

We can move on now, can't we?

0:50:440:50:47

'I can't believe Paul's pulled it off.

0:50:470:50:49

'He's still using the old labels until he runs out of stock

0:50:490:50:53

'but now he can get bottling.'

0:50:530:50:55

Just get the machine going.

0:50:550:50:57

It'll come down and label the bottle, it'll fill the bottles,

0:50:590:51:03

and this will put a cap on the bottles

0:51:030:51:05

rather than that hand thing we were doing.

0:51:050:51:08

It will come out the other side and down to the person that's pulling the bottles off.

0:51:080:51:12

But we've kept the old piece of kit. Our museum!

0:51:120:51:15

It's great, isn't it?

0:51:150:51:17

We can bottle the same batch of beer in half the time

0:51:170:51:20

-and with less people.

-With half the number of people.

0:51:200:51:24

Yay!

0:51:240:51:25

Brilliant, darling. Really well done.

0:51:250:51:28

-Hi!

-Hi, darling.

-Hello. Lovely to see you.

0:51:290:51:33

So...how are things?

0:51:330:51:36

Very excited. I mean, it's all actually here.

0:51:360:51:38

When they had another day in Bristol,

0:51:380:51:41

-they saw a few big wholesalers.

-How did that all go?

0:51:410:51:44

Well, two of those bog wholesalers that are national wholesalers

0:51:440:51:48

have got us listed with them and have actually taken ground stock.

0:51:480:51:51

-Good.

-Yes. Hooray!

0:51:510:51:54

I think Paul has finally let the debacle of the last machines go.

0:51:540:51:59

Yeah. I think Trading Standards will be getting involved at some point

0:51:590:52:03

but we'll just wait and see on that.

0:52:030:52:05

At the moment it's just about moving forward.

0:52:050:52:08

How is he? Is he still keeping a close eye on the figures?

0:52:080:52:12

Oh, my God! Yes, he's really, really good.

0:52:120:52:15

Absolutely his mindset has changed because the minute

0:52:150:52:18

that that's what you're looking at, it just alters your whole plan.

0:52:180:52:21

He is in a much, much better place, mentally and physically, actually.

0:52:210:52:26

-He seems quite calm.

-Yeah, he is.

0:52:260:52:28

Both of us are under no illusions this is not out of the water...

0:52:280:52:32

I know, but you'd be an idiot if you thought that.

0:52:320:52:35

The fact that we both understand that

0:52:350:52:37

rather than one painting one picture and one the other...

0:52:370:52:40

Trying to balance it out!

0:52:400:52:42

We're now in the middle somewhere and I think that's alleviated the whole pressures of everything

0:52:420:52:47

which is good because it's saved the marriage as well.

0:52:470:52:50

-Oh, I'm glad you're getting on well. I'm so glad, darling.

-All good.

0:52:500:52:54

'Four months ago, they were at breaking point,

0:52:550:52:57

'but with a little help from me and masses of hard work from them,

0:52:570:53:01

'we've brought the business back from the brink.

0:53:010:53:04

'But I know Paul is still desperate to send his beers abroad.'

0:53:040:53:08

First time I came to the brewery...

0:53:100:53:12

you told me you thought you had the silver bullet to all your problems

0:53:120:53:16

and that was going to be taking your beer down the export route,

0:53:160:53:20

which I took issue with, not because I didn't think overall

0:53:200:53:23

it could be a strategy at some point in the future

0:53:230:53:26

but because there were a lot more

0:53:260:53:28

immediate and pressing problems to tackle.

0:53:280:53:30

It's pretty amazing how much you've done in the time.

0:53:300:53:34

-You're much more focused on the business side of things.

-Yeah.

0:53:340:53:38

We have a bottling plant in, you've got deals with wholesalers.

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As a result, I've decided that I will...

0:53:420:53:46

help you dip your toe in the water of export

0:53:460:53:50

and I'm going to send you off to France this afternoon

0:53:500:53:54

to meet someone called Richard Wilson who runs Yummies,

0:53:540:53:57

which is a company specialising in promoting British products

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into the French market.

0:54:000:54:02

To try and help you, I have prepared your labels in French.

0:54:020:54:05

Slightly tweaked the colour

0:54:050:54:07

because green is a colour that commands trust in France.

0:54:070:54:10

As you'll see, the back...

0:54:100:54:12

-is now all in French.

-Very good.

-Wow.

0:54:120:54:15

-The main thing is to see whether he thinks that if this is the kind of product that has legs.

-Definitely.

0:54:150:54:20

The other thing is, you don't have to go all dressed up.

0:54:200:54:23

They're quite casual in France in meetings.

0:54:230:54:26

This is my last visit with you.

0:54:260:54:28

I've got to admit, it was tough at the beginning, but...

0:54:280:54:31

just a change of mindset for me, looking at the figures

0:54:310:54:35

and realising where the spend was going has made a massive difference. It's been amazing.

0:54:350:54:40

There we go.

0:54:410:54:43

'I'm really sad to be saying goodbye to Paul and Eline

0:54:440:54:47

'and that my time with Hunter's Brewery has come to an end.'

0:54:470:54:50

They are at the very beginning.

0:54:500:54:52

It's only just calmed down and got onto an even keel.

0:54:520:54:56

I really can only see them going from strength to strength.

0:54:560:55:00

Oh, hello, my dear. Are you all right there?

0:55:130:55:15

-Where are you travelling to?

-To Paris, my dear.

0:55:150:55:18

-Have you got your passport?

-I have.

0:55:180:55:20

'British beer exports are worth more than £600 million

0:55:240:55:28

'and we send over £90 million of beer to France.

0:55:280:55:32

'If Paul's meeting with Richard goes well,

0:55:330:55:35

'it could give Hunter's a foothold in the foreign market

0:55:350:55:38

'and open up the path to export.

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The French beer market is an extremely difficult market to break into

0:55:410:55:45

but we're already working with a number of microbreweries

0:55:450:55:48

and I certainly think a British microbrewery could be something we could add to our portfolio.

0:55:480:55:52

'Can Paul impress

0:55:520:55:54

'and will Royal Hunt prove worthy enough to take on France?'

0:55:540:55:58

We've done some rebranding of one of our products, which is Royal Hunt.

0:55:580:56:02

-If I show you that...

-Sure.

0:56:020:56:04

I mean, first off, mentioning "britanniques" - British, is good,

0:56:040:56:08

and "traditionelles", having those in big letters on the front of the label is a good thing.

0:56:080:56:13

-Is there any idea of putting a Union Jack somewhere?

-Do you think that would go down well?

-It would.

0:56:130:56:18

It would be very eye-catching straight away before anybody gets the time to read it.

0:56:180:56:22

The image and the logo, obviously what it represents.

0:56:220:56:25

-Shall we check a bottle out?

-Sure. OK.

0:56:250:56:27

-This is how the label will look on the bottle.

-It's a beautiful label anyway.

0:56:270:56:32

In France, there's quite a following of hunting.

0:56:320:56:35

The green is very royal, in a way.

0:56:350:56:38

-Good. Shall we open one?

-It's just about midday, isn't it?

0:56:380:56:41

We can taste.

0:56:410:56:43

It is quite cloudy, isn't it? Having something cloudy is fine

0:56:430:56:46

because they're used to their white beer - biere blanche.

0:56:460:56:49

-They're used to that coming out cloudy. You want to chink?

-Cheers.

0:56:490:56:53

-Mm. That's falling down the mouth lovely.

-Yeah.

0:56:560:56:59

That's certainly a very easy drink, isn't it?

0:56:590:57:01

Richard, the Royal Hunt, do you think this has a place in France?

0:57:010:57:05

Erm...

0:57:050:57:07

MUSIC: "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien" by Edith Piaf

0:57:080:57:11

Bonjour, Alex.

0:57:120:57:14

Bonjour, mon ami. Hi, Paul. How are you?

0:57:140:57:17

Very well indeed. In Paris, looking straight at the Eiffel Tower.

0:57:170:57:21

It's beautiful.

0:57:210:57:23

Good. Was it successful is all I care about. Forget the Eiffel Tower.

0:57:230:57:27

Alex, we went through the prospects of will Royal Hunt be good for France

0:57:270:57:33

and the answer to that is he believes it could be.

0:57:330:57:36

Yes, a very good scenario and I still believe for the future

0:57:360:57:39

that this is a good opening.

0:57:390:57:41

I'm so pleased for you, Paul. I am so very pleased for you, darling.

0:57:410:57:45

Thank you, Alex.

0:57:450:57:47

Bye.

0:57:470:57:48

Very good. Very happy lady on the other end of the phone.

0:57:500:57:53

I can't see that it's the end of the journey.

0:57:530:57:56

I think we'll see Alex again.

0:57:560:57:58

I really can.

0:57:580:58:00

I'd love to see the Royal Hunt symbol at the top of there at some point.

0:58:000:58:04

Wouldn't that be fantastic?

0:58:040:58:06

What if we can achieve that one? That would be good, wouldn't it?

0:58:070:58:11

'Hunter's have now signed with two Bristol wholesalers

0:58:110:58:14

'and a pub company and are on the verge of a supermarket deal

0:58:140:58:18

'that could see their beer stocked in 90 stores

0:58:180:58:21

'and the bottling machine is still going strong.'

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