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Small firms form the backbone of Britain.

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They turn over annually ?1,600 billion.

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If they fail...

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I can't do it any more.

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..Britain would be on its knees.

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Death is my exit plan.

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But these firms face big challenges.

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It's not easy.

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He's physically in pieces

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and I don't know how long that could go on.

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Almost a third of all small firms go bust within three years.

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If I fail, not only will the business go, the house will go.

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'I'm Alex Polizzi, a small business owner myself,

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'and I'm spending this year trying to find fixes for the critical

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'issues that kill so many companies.'

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He's not allowed to spend one more penny.

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'Home truths...'

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I hate your shop window.

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You should not be in business.

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'..and tough times lie ahead.'

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All I have heard about is you bitching and moaning.

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You're ripping my BLEEP heart out!

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'If small businesses succeed...'

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It's not just my business you've given me back, it's my confidence.

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'..then Britain can boom.

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'This time, trading with the big boys.'

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We've had losses of between 10 and 20 grand a month.

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'Is it possible for small businesses...'

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Come on. A bit of enthusiasm here, you two!

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'..to survive on the supermarket shelf?'

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You should be thinking on your feet.

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Oh, come on. We don't have long to prepare...

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Come on!

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If it goes down, we all go down.

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Today eight out of ten of our grocery purchases

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are made through our supermarkets.

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That means their shelves are the place to be

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for many of Britain's aspiring food producers.

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And I'm on my way to see one today.

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I love any business that produces food.

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I'm a food producer myself with the bakery.

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But this is a highly competitive market.

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COCK CROWS

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'One such small business trying to compete is Yorkshire based Heck,

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'purveyors of quality sausages.

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'Owners Debbie and Andrew Keeble have a passion for crafting artisan bangers...'

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I've got the pepper.

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Two grams of grated nutmeg.

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'..an obsession that has taken over their lives and home.'

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We used to butcher pigs on here.

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There's a meat cleaver mark there, and there, where I missed.

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Aiming for me!

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We started our first business with a ?15,000 loan,

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which we'd taken out to buy a car.

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But we decided there's no point having a car

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if we can't afford to go anywhere.

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So we bought a sausage machine with it instead.

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Launched in 1999, Debbie and Andrew's sausages

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quickly became a bestselling brand,

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bagging them an annual turnover of over ?5 million.

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But when a merger took an unexpected turn,

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they ended up losing the business.

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It really was Debbie's baby, that brand.

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So it was a terrible wrench for Debbie.

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They'd devoted 12 years to a product they believed in.

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But now it was back to square one.

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We had to start again.

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And that is how Heck came about.

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It was one of those moments where you say,

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"What the heck, come on. We have to start again."

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And that's why we called it Heck.

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They've just taken the biggest gamble of their lives,

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investing everything they had in a brand new sausage business.

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And it's no small chipolata,

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employing 11 staff and churning out 250,000 bangers a week.

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Is that working? Fingers crossed, yeah.

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Fingers crossed. Don't you love the Russians? Fingers crossed, you know.

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Their dream is simple...

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Set it going. Set it going.

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..to get into bed with the big five supermarkets.

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And in just a few short months,

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this small player has already achieved a place on Tesco's shelves.

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Yeah, I love sausages. I love making sausages.

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This time they've roped in the kids.

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With little experience, they've all been handed senior titles.

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It is really good working with your parents. It's easy.

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I suppose people looking at us might think that we are well heeled.

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We do live in a very nice house, but it's not ours. We rent it.

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The farm is on rented land. The factory is rented.

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All of our assets are betrothed to the business.

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Second time around, they cannot afford to fail again.

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There's an awful lot of pressure on us

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because, you know, it's their future. It's not just ours.

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If it goes down, we all go down.

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Although they're in more than one supermarket,

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current sales are nowhere near enough.

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We'll do probably ?2.5 million this year,

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so we're hitting our numbers. But the profitability isn't there.

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We've had losses of between 10 and 20 grand a month.

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We've got a ?250,000 loan for sausage equipment.

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We're currently in overdraft of ?50,000.

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We've invested probably ?600,000 or ?700,000

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in building the brand, and working capital in...

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I don't know where it goes.

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And the pressure is on.

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Their place on the Tesco shelves, which accounts for 85% of sales,

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is up for review in just three months' time.

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We do have to start making some money pretty damn quick,

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and we've also got to get some more customers,

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because at the moment all our eggs are in one basket.

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And that's not a great position to be in really.

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Stress is not my best friend but he's always with me.

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The potential for this small business is huge

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but right now they're haemorrhaging cash.

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I've just 14 weeks to help turn a profit

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and steer the dreams of a family legacy back on course.

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I've never been told what to do. I hate that.

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But if she... I'm, you know... We need help.

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I can't wait to get to Heck.

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It's a small company playing in a very competitive market

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and I'm looking forward to seeing how they fit in with the big boys.

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'I want to get to the meat of the business

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'at Heck's bespoke new sausage factory.'

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Hello, good morning. How are you? You well?

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Very well, thank you. It's very nice to be here.

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It's great to have you, welcome. Thank you for inviting me.

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Who are your customers?

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Our customers are Tesco's, which is fantastic

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and they've backed us for the first year, which is great.

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It's interesting cos we've taken completely different strategies

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in our businesses.

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We've been approached many times by supermarkets,

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but we've made a conscious decision not to get involved with them,

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just because we know how difficult it is to manage that relationship.

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Yeah.

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'The top five supermarkets account for 70% of all sausage sales,

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'giving them immense power over their suppliers.

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'So Andrew's heavy reliance on them is a very risky strategy.'

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So this is your best-selling product.

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It is, yes, the Heck 97. It's 97% shoulder pork.

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This makes you the least money of all your products, doesn't it?

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It's the highest meat content, yeah. Yeah, lowest margin.

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It's the lowest margin but it's a great driver.

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No, I understand that, darling,

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but we have to talk the business side of things because actually,

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you know, it's lovely to have a product to be so proud of,

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but the margins are much lower.

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'The product he's selling the most of is his 97%,

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'and that's the product that has the lowest margin.'

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And one of the main problems his business is facing

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is that it's not making any money.

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Well, you know, it doesn't take a great genius to correlate

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those two sides of the argument.

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Do you like leading on or what?

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No, I'll follow you. I don't know where I'm going!

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OK, should we go and have a little look and see where it all begins?

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They're all hand packed, then? Everything's hand packed, yeah.

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At the end of the day, on the shelf, they've got to look good.

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'The humble sausage is no longer seen as a budget option.

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'The industry is worth over ?700 million

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'with premium brands accounting for over 30% of all sausage sales.

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'But producing such quality comes at a cost.'

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And we're very proud of our bowl chopper. It's a Seydelmann,

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which if you're going to buy any machine in the world,

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that's the one everybody wants to have. I'll keep that in mind.

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It's a ?70,000 piece of equipment.

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Just to keep it going ready all the time I think, maybe.

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Is that all right?

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Yeah, of course! Don't want people standing idle.

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We don't want that.

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So come through to the link cutter here, another nice

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new bit of equipment. Very nice. Another expensive bit of equipment?

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It is a nice bit of equipment, yeah.

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'Andrew has borrowed big time to buy top-of-the-range Germany machinery.

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'but with their biggest seller delivering little return,

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'is this family putting passion for their sausages over profit?'

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Hello, I'm Alex. Hi. Nice to meet you.

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If Alex goes to see Debbie,

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she'll definitely get an insight into the finances.

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You know, Debbie's no slouch on figures.

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So she's... She's a forensic accountant, is Debbie.

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This is where we get to talk turkey.

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Apparently you are the business brains.

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Do you think you're good at it?

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I'm the best in the family.

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That's skirting the issue, dear.

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So if you look on your profit and loss sheet,

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what are the things of most concern to you?

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It's sales.

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We're just in one supermarket chain on a national basis,

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and we need more to...

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And I believe that contract is up for discussion,

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isn't it, fairly soon? It is, yes.

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Obviously that's a nerve-racking moment.

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I'm assuming you have a good feeling about the fact

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that they're going to renew. But if they don't, what will you do?

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If we don't raise the awareness, and increase the rate of sale,

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then we probably won't be here next year.

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So let's say you've got another year,

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what would you have liked to achieve in that year?

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What do you think, where do you think you could be?

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Where would you like to be?

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Well, personally, I'd like to be the number one premium brand.

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And I think it's achievable. OK.

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Yeah, I think it's doable.

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Jamie?

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National, every supermarket in the country, it's definitely achievable.

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Ellie?

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Just to be well known for having a good quality sausage

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that every family likes to have, and just...

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It's very interesting,

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cos what none of you said was making this company profitable.

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It's all about reputation.

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It's all nice, fluffy, great ethos,

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wonderful belief in your product, pride.

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But, you know, businesses are successful

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because they sort out the bottom line.

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We're in a very tough financial environment

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and no-one's going to put out a helping hand, are they?

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No. So you have to help yourselves.

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We want to make money, we want to put all that debt behind us

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and ensure we stay a family business in the future.

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I mean, the big headlines are that you have one customer,

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and if they disappear tomorrow you'd be in deep BLEEP.

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But it's worth remembering that Britain is a nation of small

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and medium enterprises, and although the supermarkets

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have 80% of the food trade, there is a lot of food suppliers

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who are doing exactly what you do, and doing it successfully.

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So there's no reason you shouldn't be one of them.

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Absolutely Yeah?

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'Now I've met the family and I can clearly see what they're up against.

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'Poor sales with dismal profits

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'and all their money tied up in the business.

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'And, to top it all, their biggest customer Tesco could pull the plug

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'on their contract in just 12 weeks' time.'

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I have a lot to think about tonight.

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'I need to begin this process by seeing exactly how the customer

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'perceives Heck on the supermarket shelf.

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'The supermarket has the potential to turn a small business

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'into a multimillion pound heavyweight.

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'But with over 400 sausage varieties all fighting for your attention,

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'it's crucial that your brand stands out.'

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Good morning. How are you?

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I'm well, you? Good, hi.

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'So I've brought the family to York,

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'to one of around 500 Tesco stores currently stocking Heck sausages.'

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My aim is to understand how their sausage packaging

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and their product sits on the shelves alongside other products,

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why people buy them, and why they may choose not to,

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how effective their packaging is,

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and what they need to do to market themselves better.

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'To see how they compare to the competition, I've arranged to meet

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'Amanda Peberdy, supermarket retail guru and brand advisor.'

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First of all I'm interested in position on the shelf,

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and what it says about their brand, and what immediate competition is.

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The fixture's laid out in very much a good, better, best.

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So the more value products are at one side, these would be

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classed as medium products going into the sort of more premium end.

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Typically, products near the bottom are quite high volume.

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The lowest-selling lines tend to be at the top.

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And actually top left is sort of the coldest spot on the fixture.

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So here you do have a really, really good shelf position.

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They're really supporting your sales

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by putting you in a position that is the best on the fixture.

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'But cheaper, own-label brands account for almost half

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'of all grocery sales. And it's a figure on the up!

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'So how does a small food brand stand out from the crowd?'

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What do you think the Heck message says as you see it

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there on the shelves?

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In all honesty,

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I don't think it's very easy to understand to the consumer.

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I think there's some key messages that are missing off the pack

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in terms of what is your unique selling point, what is it that

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you do differently, what makes your product more special than theirs.

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Yeah.

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You're a small business,

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making it within the family with care, within your own homes.

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We're independent, absolutely.

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Actually the key things that other big brands almost have

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to sort of create, and you have it naturally.

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So that gives you strength because you have a difference to

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a Tesco Finest product, and I don't think the brand at the moment

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is probably shouting that strong enough.

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What do you think are the most important messages that

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should jump out?

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Customers at the moment really like provenance.

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People are really, really interested in terms of where their foods

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come from, how it's been made, where the ingredients are from.

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Through all these scandals, these food scandals that we keep having,

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that traceability is so key, isn't it?

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What we were trying to do is to say, well...

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it all goes without saying.

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If they want to know more they can find out about it, but the quality

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of the pack should portray that everything goes without saying.

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'Nothing goes without saying!

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'Although the Keebles know their product inside out,

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'they can't assume the customer will.'

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But apart from the Union Jack,

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it's not very clearly saying British pork.

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There's nothing wrong with actually saying you're a Yorkshire business.

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Yorkshire Tea has travelled across the world.

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They've bought quite a lot of the packaging, to keep the costs down,

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and so I can't suggest to them that they do anything dramatic,

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but I'm wondering if the kind of sticker option or something,

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we could do something like that with provenance.

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Cos it's very, immediately visible again.

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Yeah, it's quick as well.

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I think the challenge is that customers spend such a short amount

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of time, people want to get in and out as quickly as possible,

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and there's typically 36,000 products for them to look at.

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So, therefore, a strong website and social media becomes more important.

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Kids, you're very quiet. Come on, what do you think?

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What do you think of all these ideas?

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I like everything you're saying, it's making complete sense to me.

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I honestly believe that the internet and publicity are part of this,

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cos what you want to be doing is driving people to your website.

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Suggesting different ways to... maybe you have new recipes up.

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But how much do people look at recipes online?

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Oh, my God, darling! The world is...

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No-one buys a cookery book any more, it's all blogs and, you know...

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If you want to appeal to the younger person, you've got to get with it.

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Yeah. I'll have you in a pair of skinny jeans in no time!

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You bloody won't!

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'Andrews's reluctance to "get with it" is not their only worry.

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'Having sunk thousands of pounds into design and packaging,

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'Amanda's comments are hitting hard.'

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I think if I had to take one thought back from today, it's the message.

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Our own message, our brand message, really.

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It's not standing out enough.

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I thought people would look at the pack and say,

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"Heck, that sounds interesting,"

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turn it over, read about it and then understand why Heck, but, erm...

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But this hasn't done that.

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So it's been a bit of a failure on that front.

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Hasn't it?

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We're in against some real big competitors with deep pockets.

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So, yeah, it's not easy.

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Amanda identified a few weaknesses in your branding.

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Now we all know that we are not going to chuck out the old

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packaging, but I'd like you to look at samples of stickers that

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you might put on, how you might improve the information

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about the provenance as she said.

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You are the very opposite to a corporate, faceless entity,

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and we've got to make sure at every stage that point is hammered home.

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And I think you're not doing it well enough at the moment, and so

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these are just the first small steps,

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but I'm very keen to take them.

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'The supermarkets have huge buying power over their suppliers,

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'enabling them to dictate the price they pay.

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'In 2012, hundreds of farmers blockaded milk plants across the UK,

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'arguing that they are paid less than the cost of production

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'for their milk.

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'Heck's current best seller accounts for more than three quarters

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'of sales, but it only returns a tiny 3% profit.

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'Because they can't increase their sale price to the supermarkets,

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'their only option is to lower production costs

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'to increase margins.

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'And I've found out their seasoning amounts to ?200,000 a year.'

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I want them to see if they can produce a similar or identical

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seasoning to the one they're currently buying in

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at enormous expense, to see if they can cut down their costs.

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What other ingredients are we looking for, for the Heck 97, then?

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So we believe... Ginger.

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Salt and Pepper. And nutmeg. Ginger. Nutmeg.

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And then if we can cut it in half, and put a little bit of cream

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with one of them.

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Ooh, my word! BLEEP! I was going to take a bit out.

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Don't put it back in there cos...please.

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This is how most product development starts in our house.

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On the kitchen table...

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where tempers fray quite a lot

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cos we've all got different opinions on it, and usually I think I'm right.

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I'm saying nothing.

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Is he always right, Ellie?

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No. I am!

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No, you're not. What?

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BLEEP!

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The world according to Andrew Keeble.

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Yeah, and I'm not wrong.

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So, salt.

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'Each of their sausages contains 1p worth of seasoning.

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'So by just saving an ounce here,

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'or substituting an ingredient there, they could save thousands.'

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What we currently have is a pre-weighed pre-mix.

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Everything's in here - preservatives, salt, pepper.

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It makes it very easy for us.

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'But it's convenience at a cost.'

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That bag right there is 6.65 a kilo.

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Salt is 12p a kilo.

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Four hours and two new mixes later,

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they think they've made something as good as the original.

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I think it's nice. Really, really nice.

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Most importantly, is there a potential saving?

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8.7% percent is ginger.

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This would be ?1.03 a kilo.

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Compared to 6.60. 6.65.

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When I looked at the overall annualised saving of it,

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it was like a train hitting me, really.

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We're going to save ?170,000 a year.

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It's absolutely incredible.

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It's the profit that we're lacking in the business at the moment.

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'It's a good start, but will the supermarket buyers think

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'it's good enough for their shelves?

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'To put it to the test I've arranged privileged access to one of

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'the country's hi-tech food development kitchens -

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'Morrison's HQ in Bradford,

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'where their experts will scrutinise the seasoning for us.'

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There's about 2,000 people who work here,

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and in their product development kitchen,

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they test 6,000 independent products

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and between 7,000 and 10,000 Morrison own-label products.

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So they're busy.

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'Morrisons is the second biggest fresh food manufacturer in the UK.

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'Every single item of food bought by their 11 million customers

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'each week has passed a rigorous taste test

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'by one of their skilled chefs.'

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Neil. How are you doing, Alex? Very nice to meet you, thank you.

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'Neil Nugent is the Executive Chef of Product Development.'

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What kind of scrutiny do you put products through, then?

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There's no stone unturned. We look at absolutely everything.

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So from the sausage, its meat content, what type of meat,

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is it shoulder, is it belly,

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the seasonings. Everything is key, the skins.

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Everything is absolutely key.

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Hi, these are the Keebles.

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Hi, nice to meet you.

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'I've also invited Tony Goodger from the British Pig Executive,

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'who's been judging sausages for 12 years.'

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I've sampled about 5,500

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and some have been fantastic and some keep me awake at night.

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They're terrible.

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But before the taste test, their raw porkers get the once-over.

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So what we do is we start with the raw sausage and we look

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and see is it an even size, is it of a nice consistent colour?

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And then see if they're fresh.

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And ideally, they shouldn't actually smell of anything.

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These actually don't smell of anything, so they're nice and fresh.

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I think it is worth pointing out that the more meat in a sausage

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doesn't necessarily make it a better sausage.

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What, taste-wise you mean? Yeah, and texture.

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Because it is good to get a balance of your fat content

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and your seasonings, so you get a good moist sausage.

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Often if you go too much meat, you can get quite dry.

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So are you nervous about 97%?

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Over to you guys, see what you think.

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I don't want to influence you one way or the other,

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we're here for advice. Proof is in the tasting, isn't it?

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Absolutely.

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'So it's taste test time.

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'Ready to be compared and contrasted is Heck's current sausage

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'with the family's two new seasoned varieties.'

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It's a good firm sausage when you cut into it.

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And it's got a really good depth of flavour. Really meaty.

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That's a nice rounded seasoning.

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The notes sort of continue in your mouth after you've finished

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swallowing the product,

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so it gives you that sort of longevity of flavour.

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Little salty for me. A bit too salty?

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You have to have a bit of salt in there

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because salt is a preservative as well,

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and it is important that we don't just take all the salt out

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of the product, because otherwise we're sacrificing shelf life.

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The spices are starting to come through. A nice finish of pepper.

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It's not masked out by excessive seasoning.

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I think what you've got is a complementary seasoning

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that just lifts the flavour of the pig meat.

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'The moment of truth.

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'If either of the new seasonings are the taste of success,

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'Heck could be seriously quids in.'

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Go on.

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I'm definitely this one.

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'They've both plumped for the new cheaper seasoning

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'at just ?1.28 a kilo!'

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The seasoning. That's your man.

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Yeah, it's definitely got the taste. That's really good.

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Oh, good! Thank you very much.

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Well, I was very worried that this might go horribly wrong,

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and you might prefer the original!

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Potentially, could be 150 grand a year saving.

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We've have never made 150 grand... ever.

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?150,000 saving and a better sausage.

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Yes! It's brilliant.

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Gosh. Thrilled. Win-win.

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I know! You're thrilled?

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Next project!

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It came out surprisingly well for us,

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and it was as we'd hoped, really, so...

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I'd say it was a success.

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Yeah, seasoning tick, definitely.

0:25:050:25:08

'This is a massive breakthrough.

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'But Heck still desperately need more sales.'

0:25:100:25:13

Captain! Captain Mainwaring.

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Yeah, I'll go down the side and close them.

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'In case their supermarket strategy goes belly up,

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'I think the family need a backup plan

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'and should look at alternative customers like the catering sector.'

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Gently, gently. Gently with those lights.

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'To break into new markets,

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'an excellent Sales and Marketing team is essential,

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'and this role has been handed to Jamie, with Ellie's assistance.'

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It's great having my parents as a boss,

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cos I can sometimes tell them to F off.

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'18-year-old Ellie left college to start taking a role

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'within in the business.'

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I'm basically Marketing Manager.

0:25:510:25:54

Ellie trundles a little bit to get out of bed,

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but we'll get there in the end.

0:25:560:25:58

She's got a huge potential, but she's a bit "manana".

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Ellie, what happened to the white van?

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I crashed it...

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..into the box van on Saturday night.

0:26:100:26:12

You crashed our own van into our own van? Yup.

0:26:120:26:16

It's a brand-new bloody van.

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My dad, he does let me off with pretty much everything.

0:26:190:26:22

I'm glad we can all laugh about it.

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Well, it's only a bloody van, isn't it, at the end of the day?

0:26:240:26:27

'And it's not just Ellie who gets an easy ride.'

0:26:270:26:30

How many fines do you think we pick up, Jamie's parking fines

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and speeding fines per year?

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It's about four and a half grand a year in fines we pick up.

0:26:350:26:38

My mother pays for the parking fines,

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but, you know, I think they're on commission or something,

0:26:410:26:44

the parking wardens, you know.

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They're really always out to try and get you.

0:26:450:26:47

He should be on the computer this afternoon,

0:26:470:26:50

spreading the gospel a little bit about the business.

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And he won't be, he'll be off down the BLEEP gym.

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Hi.

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'Time to see just how seriously they're taking this business.'

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So, tell me about what you do for the company.

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Well, we're kind of in charge of the marketing side.

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Marketing and sales.

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Sales and marketing is a very specific discipline.

0:27:100:27:13

You're quite young, you've never worked for anybody else. No.

0:27:130:27:16

Didn't you ever think of working somewhere else first

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before coming and joining the business?

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No, I didn't. I preferred the idea of working with family.

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It is a lot easier.

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I think it's just a lot better than just having a normal job.

0:27:270:27:30

It's just, you see...

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I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just...

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I know family businesses. Yeah.

0:27:360:27:37

And I know the pitfalls, and the pleasures of them.

0:27:370:27:41

The pitfalls are that you don't have someone saying,

0:27:410:27:44

"Prove to me that you're worth your job.

0:27:440:27:46

"How many sales have you made? How many people have you converted?

0:27:460:27:50

"Show me your figures, show me your plans for this following year.

0:27:500:27:53

"Show me to what extent,

0:27:530:27:54

"what percentage of your goals you've achieved."

0:27:540:27:58

You know, all these things if you're working for another company,

0:27:580:28:01

you would be expected to provide... Yeah?

0:28:010:28:04

..to make sure that you add value to the company.

0:28:040:28:06

Because there's no point in you being employed for Heck,

0:28:060:28:09

if there is someone else who could on your salary

0:28:090:28:11

do your jobs better.

0:28:110:28:12

Would they have more fire in their belly to do more?

0:28:140:28:17

I mean, that's, you know, that's a basic truth.

0:28:170:28:20

So you're going to have to prove to me

0:28:200:28:22

that you're the best people for the job.

0:28:220:28:24

'I don't mind the kids doing their jobs with no training,'

0:28:250:28:27

but I'm a great believer in sending your children out to get some

0:28:270:28:30

experience before bringing them into the fold.

0:28:300:28:33

Because then they've got something to bring to the party.

0:28:330:28:35

At the moment they have a title and responsibility,

0:28:350:28:39

but really no knowledge of how to do their job.

0:28:390:28:41

And I don't think that's fair on either the business or the children.

0:28:410:28:44

'It's now just ten weeks before their biggest supermarket client

0:28:450:28:49

'decides whether to relist Heck or not.

0:28:490:28:51

'In an attempt to find new customers beyond the supermarkets,

0:28:530:28:56

'and to see if Jamie and Ellie muster it as a sales team,

0:28:560:29:00

'I've lined them up to pitch to the canteen

0:29:000:29:02

'at a large local grammar school.'

0:29:020:29:05

I want you to know my intention is not to humiliate you in any way, OK?

0:29:050:29:09

I just think that the reality is every time you go anywhere and pitch

0:29:090:29:14

for this business, you have got to be the very best that you can be.

0:29:140:29:17

There's no point in having the best product in the world

0:29:170:29:20

unless you've got a really good sales pitch. Yeah?

0:29:200:29:22

That's really, really good news.

0:29:220:29:24

'Although they've not pitched to the service industry before,

0:29:240:29:28

'this should be a routine task for Heads of Sales, Jamie.'

0:29:280:29:31

I've not really had a bad meeting yet

0:29:310:29:34

where I've sort of been thrown by anything, so,

0:29:340:29:38

you know, I know pretty much everything there is to know anyway.

0:29:380:29:40

'I would expect some preparation for any new client,

0:29:420:29:45

'especially one in a new territory.'

0:29:450:29:48

So have you got all your bits?

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Yeah, we think so.

0:29:500:29:52

'But Jamie and Ellie appear surprisingly laid-back.'

0:29:520:29:54

Ellie?

0:29:560:29:57

'Andrew is the one driving this forward.'

0:29:570:29:59

Right, come on, all who want to go.

0:29:590:30:01

Good! Come on, a bit of enthusiasm here, you two!

0:30:010:30:04

Goodness me.

0:30:060:30:08

'On such short acquaintance, it appears to me that Jamie

0:30:080:30:11

'and Ellie are lazy.

0:30:110:30:12

'They don't have much get up and go about them.

0:30:120:30:14

'The independent grammar school at Leeds serves up more

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'than 1,000 sausages a month.'

0:30:210:30:23

There's no reason to pep-talk you, but it's nice to see you smiling.

0:30:230:30:27

It's nice. You were a bit grumpy as we left the house.

0:30:270:30:30

Grumpy. Just tired, just tired.

0:30:300:30:32

Erm, yeah.

0:30:320:30:33

Mr Murfin, hi.

0:30:350:30:36

Hello, pleased to meet you. Hello. Andy Murfin, hi.

0:30:360:30:39

'Hoping to give Hospitality Manager Andy Murfin food for thought,

0:30:390:30:43

'they've brought their top quality premium sausage

0:30:430:30:45

'and their everyday cheaper version.'

0:30:450:30:47

This is our 97% pork, it's a very meaty texture to it.

0:30:480:30:52

It is a very meaty texture. It's a very good texture.

0:30:520:30:55

So what is your best price, then?

0:30:550:30:56

That's about 35... 30.5 pence per sausage.

0:30:560:31:00

Right.

0:31:000:31:01

How are you on that price?

0:31:020:31:03

Well, that's quite expensive, isn't it?

0:31:030:31:05

Quite expensive. What are you currently paying?

0:31:050:31:07

20 pence.

0:31:070:31:08

20 pence a sausage? Yeah.

0:31:080:31:11

The most I could probably go down is...

0:31:110:31:13

Move 50p off. 50p off a case.

0:31:140:31:18

It's not very good, is that. No?

0:31:180:31:20

No. Sorry.

0:31:200:31:21

'Their premium sausages may be out of price range,

0:31:230:31:26

'but Jamie's totally forgotten the cheaper 85% version cooked up,

0:31:260:31:31

'sitting right beneath his eyes.'

0:31:310:31:33

I thought you've brought some 85%.

0:31:330:31:35

We have, it's that one there.

0:31:350:31:37

Which you never encouraged him to try.

0:31:370:31:40

Do you know what? That completely slipped my mind, yeah.

0:31:400:31:43

So do please try it. They've cooked it.

0:31:430:31:45

Is there a difference in the prices between the 97

0:31:460:31:49

and the 85?

0:31:490:31:50

There is, but I don't have the, er...

0:31:510:31:53

I haven't looked out the prices for those.

0:31:530:31:56

'Honestly?'

0:31:560:31:58

I've been working four days with their business,

0:31:580:32:02

and I think I'd be more prepared to do a pitch than he was.

0:32:020:32:05

And I think Ellie missed an opportunity to show me

0:32:050:32:08

her people skills, because they weren't in evidence either.

0:32:080:32:12

The product's very good, I think they were a little bit under-prepared.

0:32:120:32:15

They didn't handle the figures particularly well

0:32:150:32:17

cos they only had one figure that they based things on.

0:32:170:32:21

The young lady didn't really say a lot.

0:32:210:32:23

I would have liked to have seen you talk more,

0:32:230:32:26

and I would like to believe that next time you do a pitch

0:32:260:32:29

that you are much more up to the ball with it,

0:32:290:32:31

and that you have those facts and figures at your fingertips.

0:32:310:32:34

Oh, come on, we didn't have long to prepare, though, so, I mean...

0:32:340:32:37

I know, but I've had four days with the business,

0:32:370:32:40

and all I'm saying is that you should be thinking on your feet

0:32:400:32:43

when you do something like that.

0:32:430:32:44

I'm not going to think too much about how it went,

0:32:440:32:47

cos I know if I had more time we'd have done a lot better.

0:32:470:32:50

I'm not asking you to beat yourself up, darling, but I am...

0:32:500:32:52

I'm not beating myself up about it, but I'm disappointed with the fact

0:32:520:32:55

that I could have done a lot better if I had known more.

0:32:550:32:57

Sit down with your dad, and work out pricings on everything.

0:32:570:33:01

Because you should be able to rattle that stuff off

0:33:010:33:03

at the tip of your tongue.

0:33:030:33:05

Yeah. Just to let you know, we don't do catering at all.

0:33:050:33:09

'Well, I feel very frustrated by how Jamie has reacted'

0:33:110:33:15

to my criticism.

0:33:150:33:16

He's extremely defensive,

0:33:160:33:17

and, in fact, he was too cocky entering into this.

0:33:170:33:21

I don't think he was nearly prepared enough with some basic information,

0:33:210:33:27

and he said several times, "I'm not going to look into it too deeply."

0:33:270:33:31

Well, I think he should, and I think he should ask himself

0:33:310:33:34

quite seriously what he could have done better

0:33:340:33:37

and how he'll do it better next time.

0:33:370:33:40

A little bit disappointed just because I didn't really know

0:33:400:33:43

my stuff on this occasion.

0:33:430:33:46

You only found out about it today, didn't you?

0:33:460:33:48

Yeah, I know, but still. I forgot a lot of stuff then.

0:33:480:33:51

That wasn't nice. That wasn't nice at all. But anyway.

0:33:520:33:55

'Their disastrous pitch leaves them still desperate for new customers,

0:33:580:34:02

'and increasingly worryingly they could be taken off the Tesco shelves

0:34:020:34:06

'in just four weeks.'

0:34:060:34:07

The D-word, we call it.

0:34:090:34:11

That's the D-list. The D-list to the whole range,

0:34:110:34:13

and you're like, "Oh, my God." It's like...

0:34:130:34:15

It's like the world's just dropped off, it's stopped,

0:34:150:34:19

because that is potentially absolutely devastating news

0:34:190:34:24

to the workforce and everybody else.

0:34:240:34:26

You know, you lose business and it's shocking.

0:34:260:34:28

'If they want to stay on the supermarket shelves they need to

0:34:300:34:33

'get all their other marketing tools together, and these days,

0:34:330:34:37

'I'm afraid, Andrew, that means getting with it

0:34:370:34:39

'and using social media.'

0:34:390:34:42

Twitter is about the dullest creation that ever was,

0:34:420:34:47

and I think it's quite sad, actually.

0:34:470:34:52

Imagine if you're alone in your bedroom...

0:34:520:34:55

twittering.

0:34:550:34:57

'Social media has changed the way brands communicate

0:35:000:35:03

'with their customers.

0:35:030:35:04

'Once, they were restricted to expensive TV, Radio

0:35:040:35:07

'and press advertising.

0:35:070:35:09

'Now they have globally effective online tools

0:35:090:35:11

'such as Facebook, YouTube and Twitter.'

0:35:110:35:15

# London calling to the faraway towns... #

0:35:150:35:18

'London - the heart of Britain's vibrant social media industry.

0:35:180:35:22

'I've brought Andrew and Jamie here to convince them how valuable

0:35:230:35:27

'social media is, especially for a small business like Heck.'

0:35:270:35:31

Research has just come out which shows that 24 million Britons

0:35:310:35:37

use Facebook every single day.

0:35:370:35:40

Every day!

0:35:400:35:41

So Facebook, in particular, you ignore at your own peril.

0:35:410:35:45

As I've always said to you, I'm not a social media guru.

0:35:450:35:50

But we're going to go and see people who are.

0:35:500:35:53

'Partners Andrews Aldridge are experts in the field, having

0:35:530:35:57

'masterminded social media strategies

0:35:570:35:59

'for big brands like Rolls-Royce.

0:35:590:36:01

'When they developed a social media launch for whisky brand,

0:36:010:36:04

'the Glenlivet, the result was a 1,600% increase on YouTube views

0:36:040:36:09

'and bottles flew off the supermarket shelf.'

0:36:090:36:12

Andrew's very suspicious of social media.

0:36:150:36:19

I think the phrase he used to me was, for him,

0:36:190:36:22

it's rather like the emperor's new clothes.

0:36:220:36:24

And he doesn't see how that drives sales,

0:36:240:36:28

which is what he's ultimately interested in.

0:36:280:36:30

Do you think you could discuss how that works, basically?

0:36:300:36:34

It's essentially given you a platform to reach a large

0:36:340:36:37

number of individuals really cost effectively.

0:36:370:36:39

They're free platforms, you can say what you want,

0:36:390:36:41

and you can be part of the conversation.

0:36:410:36:43

You can shape, you can influence

0:36:430:36:45

and that's how you need to think about it.

0:36:450:36:47

I think the average person checks their Facebook

0:36:470:36:49

about 16 times a day.

0:36:490:36:50

There has been research around,

0:36:500:36:52

how likely are people to purchase products

0:36:520:36:55

because of the social media presence of brands.

0:36:550:36:57

It's actually 80%, consumers...

0:36:570:36:59

Does that include food as well, then? Food, just food, yeah.

0:36:590:37:03

80% said they are more likely to purchase the product

0:37:030:37:06

after being influenced by the social media presence of a brand.

0:37:060:37:10

We know that 89% of all small business

0:37:100:37:12

marketers are already using Twitter.

0:37:120:37:15

75% are already using Facebook,

0:37:150:37:17

and 65% are already using YouTube.

0:37:170:37:20

That actually says something to us.

0:37:200:37:22

So, what are we going to call it?

0:37:250:37:28

Fanny. I want to call her Fanny.

0:37:280:37:31

'Looking for maximum brand exposure,

0:37:310:37:33

'Irn Bru were aware of the power of social media.'

0:37:330:37:36

Fanny, eh? I like it.

0:37:360:37:38

This is the..."you called your baby fanny" campaign.

0:37:380:37:41

Iron Bru gave a chance for one of their followers,

0:37:410:37:44

so one of their kind of loyalists

0:37:440:37:46

and you've got followers, you can use these people, to be the first

0:37:460:37:49

person to have the film, and that one fan who had 300 followers

0:37:490:37:54

said, "This is the new Irn Bru film, I'm the first person to have it."

0:37:540:37:57

So that kind of fear of missing out,

0:37:570:38:00

fear of missing out on the new thing is great.

0:38:000:38:02

So I want to be the next person to tweet that straightaway.

0:38:020:38:04

I want to be one of the first 300 if I can't be the first one.

0:38:040:38:07

If I'm not one of the first 300, I want to be the second

0:38:070:38:10

6,000, and then I want to be one of the first 100,000.

0:38:100:38:13

By the end of the week, they had one million shares from one

0:38:130:38:17

person sharing it, with not a lot of followers.

0:38:170:38:19

And by 2017, Cysco expects 67% of all consumer

0:38:190:38:24

internet traffic to be video. Yeah?

0:38:240:38:28

So video is something you need to be doing.

0:38:280:38:31

Now let's get to some fun stuff.

0:38:310:38:34

June 23rd is the happiest day of the year.

0:38:340:38:36

So we all know about Blue Monday in the middle of January where

0:38:360:38:39

people are all depressed, well, a sausage is a happy thing.

0:38:390:38:42

Why don't we get people to stick their Heck on a fork,

0:38:420:38:46

put it in front of their face and you've got a little sausage smile?

0:38:460:38:49

You post it up, and it's a Heck of a smile

0:38:490:38:51

and everybody kind of does that. So you own a moment in time.

0:38:510:38:54

And it doesn't matter if not a lot of people start,

0:38:540:38:56

because these things kind of gain momentum,

0:38:560:38:58

and then next June you double, or triple, or whatever.

0:38:580:39:01

And this is the Heck sausage roll.

0:39:010:39:02

It's a really simple idea which is basically people roll

0:39:020:39:06

through the frame of the camera,

0:39:060:39:08

so you're holding up your iPhone or whatever, and someone just does

0:39:080:39:12

a forward roll, they pass it on to a friend and then they have to do it.

0:39:120:39:15

It builds up a giant film. Most notably, Nike did

0:39:150:39:21

this for the last World Cup and had millions of people.

0:39:210:39:24

People can feel involved and it's a really simple thing to do.

0:39:240:39:27

No, it's a great idea, really like that.

0:39:270:39:29

Aren't they really brilliant ideas? They're fantastic. I mean, good Lord!

0:39:290:39:33

It's been really encouraging, actually, to see Andrew

0:39:330:39:35

particularly change during the course of the day.

0:39:350:39:38

I think he started a cynic,

0:39:380:39:39

and now he's left a believer and an advocate.

0:39:390:39:42

This afternoon has been hugely beneficial.

0:39:420:39:44

I'm very serious in investing in social media

0:39:440:39:47

because it is affordable.

0:39:470:39:49

We can't go taking an advert out in the Daily Mail,

0:39:490:39:52

and it's questionable how many you'd hit with that.

0:39:520:39:55

I think we can definitely speak to the people we want to speak to.

0:39:550:39:58

'Andrew certainly seems to be convinced

0:39:580:40:00

'now of the validity of social media.'

0:40:000:40:02

Now all we have to do is make some of it happen.

0:40:020:40:05

I have to say, "Come on, everybody, give it a go."

0:40:090:40:11

'Feeling inspired, the family get social with their ideas.'

0:40:130:40:16

# Oh, there's nothing as gay as a day in the country... #

0:40:160:40:21

It's a steep hill.

0:40:210:40:22

It's quite steep. There's a dog BLEEP there!

0:40:220:40:25

You've got to say, "This is a sausage roll, guys."

0:40:250:40:27

"Guys"?

0:40:270:40:28

This is a sausage roll, guys. Give it a go.

0:40:280:40:31

# And go rolly oh, rolly oh,

0:40:310:40:34

# Rolly oh, rolly oh

0:40:340:40:35

# Rolly oh, rolling along... #

0:40:350:40:39

You three could all make a H.

0:40:390:40:41

Does it look like a H?

0:40:410:40:42

That's an H, isn't it?

0:40:440:40:45

Legs together! Legs together?

0:40:470:40:48

Good advice from your mother.

0:40:500:40:51

You never know, it might catch on.

0:40:520:40:54

You never know. It's great fun, isn't it, Ellie?

0:40:540:40:56

SHE SHRIEKS

0:40:560:40:58

# Oh, you don't have to pay for a day in the country... #

0:40:590:41:04

Jamie, stop moving your camera, hold it in one position.

0:41:040:41:06

This is the tumble.

0:41:060:41:08

THEY LAUGH

0:41:090:41:12

All right, well done. Go put that lot together, then.

0:41:150:41:18

'This is family fun that makes good business sense,

0:41:180:41:21

'and the potential for a "Heck" of a lot of free advertising.'

0:41:210:41:24

Well, put this up now, then.

0:41:240:41:26

Put it on FaceTube.

0:41:260:41:28

'With the social media strategy on a roll,

0:41:300:41:32

'Debbie has some news

0:41:320:41:33

'which might just keep their dreams alive for now.'

0:41:330:41:37

So what's happening with supermarket listings?

0:41:370:41:40

Tesco have agreed to continue our listing for another year,

0:41:400:41:44

so that's a relief.

0:41:440:41:47

Good. Well, that's amazing, darling.

0:41:470:41:49

You've come some way. Have you started using the seasoning?

0:41:490:41:53

Andrew's already gone and ordered a boat-load of salt,

0:41:530:41:58

so there's no going back.

0:41:580:42:00

'It's great to hear they're putting the new seasoning into practice

0:42:020:42:05

''and the Tesco renewal is a huge relief.

0:42:050:42:08

'But as the last 12 months have shown,

0:42:080:42:10

'Tesco alone will still leave them failing to make a profit.

0:42:100:42:14

'Unless they get onto more supermarket shelves,

0:42:140:42:17

'the future could be bleak.

0:42:170:42:18

'So I've managed to secure a pitch

0:42:210:42:23

'with quality northern retailer Booths.

0:42:230:42:25

'This supermarket chain started as a family business back in 1847.

0:42:260:42:31

'It may not be one of the big five,

0:42:310:42:33

'but it still has a turnover nudging ?300 million.

0:42:330:42:37

'This is a real opportunity they cannot afford to mess up.'

0:42:370:42:41

That's fantastic.

0:42:410:42:42

I've been trying to get us in for yonks.

0:42:420:42:45

Good. Well done. One last blast! Bloody great!

0:42:450:42:47

I'll tell you what, that's fantastic.

0:42:470:42:50

Good. I'm delighted.

0:42:500:42:51

I had to tell Debbie to stop shopping at Booths, because they...

0:42:510:42:54

He said, "Don't you dare go in there,

0:42:540:42:56

"cos they won't take my e-mail."

0:42:560:42:58

Serious, I've been on them for ages. That's absolutely fantastic.

0:42:580:43:02

'They haven't completely dismissed my attempts

0:43:040:43:06

'to get alternative customers from the service industry,

0:43:060:43:09

'but right now, Booths may be the family's key to survival,

0:43:090:43:13

'and their social media efforts could be starting to pay dividends.'

0:43:130:43:17

There's been a tweet from Nigella Lawson saying,

0:43:170:43:20

"Discovered a combo of sausage and burger - Heck's Fair Square.

0:43:200:43:23

"Perfect for a sandwich."

0:43:230:43:25

Yay! They've arrived!

0:43:250:43:28

She has 600,000 followers.

0:43:280:43:31

It's incredibly important for brand awareness.

0:43:310:43:33

Now I just want to translate that into sausages bought.

0:43:330:43:36

'I've been with the family three months

0:43:390:43:42

'and we've worked on every area of their business.

0:43:420:43:44

'I think they're finally ready

0:43:440:43:46

'to put all my ideas and advice into practice.

0:43:460:43:49

'This is their chance to make it all count

0:43:490:43:51

'by winning the contract at Booths.

0:43:510:43:53

'But getting their foot in the door of a completely new retailer

0:43:530:43:57

'will be much tougher than achieving their recent relisting with Tesco,

0:43:570:44:01

'especially when Booths' sausage cabinets hold nearly 80% own-label,

0:44:010:44:06

'making it a tight squeeze for any small independent.'

0:44:060:44:09

They haven't had a massive amount of success

0:44:100:44:13

in pitching to new supermarkets,

0:44:130:44:15

so to achieve the 29 Booths supermarkets

0:44:150:44:19

would be a feather in their cap

0:44:190:44:20

and one I'm really keen for them to achieve.

0:44:200:44:23

Who's going into the pit?

0:44:230:44:25

Me and Mum.

0:44:260:44:27

That's interesting.

0:44:270:44:28

'I'm absolutely amazed.'

0:44:300:44:32

I've finally got them the opportunity

0:44:320:44:33

they've been so desperate for,

0:44:330:44:35

and they send in Debbie and Ellie,

0:44:350:44:36

who are the least experienced at pitching!

0:44:360:44:39

You're going in together. Yep.

0:44:410:44:43

Are you dividing and conquering,

0:44:430:44:45

or is Ellie just coming for the experience?

0:44:450:44:48

Yes. Yes? Mm-hmm.

0:44:480:44:50

I don't think it's good just to go there and be completely silent. No.

0:44:510:44:54

Cos then it's...

0:44:540:44:55

You've got lots of good ideas,

0:44:550:44:57

and the fact you've got a Booths loyalty card,

0:44:570:44:59

I think it means you've got something in common.

0:44:590:45:02

It would be nice if there was a contribution,

0:45:020:45:04

cos otherwise I think it's a bit awkward, to tell you the truth.

0:45:040:45:09

Hmm?

0:45:090:45:11

I expect you to come out and tell me something scintillating

0:45:110:45:14

and incisive that you've added to the conversation.

0:45:140:45:17

'Can Debbie and Ellie do enough to convince Booths buyer,

0:45:190:45:22

'Keith Parkinson?'

0:45:220:45:24

Do you want to take a seat? Thank you.

0:45:250:45:27

So what were your reasoning behind the Heck,

0:45:340:45:37

what does Heck mean to the customer?

0:45:370:45:39

We did some research before we developed the packaging,

0:45:410:45:45

and we sort of wanted to produce something

0:45:450:45:48

that everything was a given, really.

0:45:480:45:51

So whilst there's so many things we can say about the product,

0:45:510:45:54

we didn't want to put it all on the packet.

0:45:540:45:56

We don't put "100% traceable", cos, well, it should be, shouldn't it?

0:45:580:46:02

You shouldn't have to say that.

0:46:020:46:04

Yeah, but equally,

0:46:040:46:06

having all the information available to the customer,

0:46:060:46:10

and not necessarily just assuming that the customer will know.

0:46:100:46:14

'Keith's concern about lack of provenance on the packaging

0:46:150:46:18

'is something I asked them to look into at the start of this process.'

0:46:180:46:22

Just off face value, just looking at the packaging the way it is,

0:46:230:46:27

I think there's some work to be done on conveying

0:46:270:46:30

the sort of real passion that you have for the product

0:46:300:46:36

and how we can convey that across to the customer.

0:46:360:46:38

It comes back to why would the customer want to pick up

0:46:390:46:42

the Heck brand over another brand that would...

0:46:420:46:45

Well, I think certainly, as far as we're concerned...

0:46:450:46:51

um...

0:46:510:46:53

It's all about...

0:46:530:46:55

saying...

0:46:550:46:56

Well, we found that we've sort of been through...

0:46:580:47:02

Um...

0:47:020:47:04

So? How'd you get on? It was all right.

0:47:060:47:08

It's quite tough.

0:47:100:47:11

What is your gut feeling?

0:47:130:47:14

He didn't understand why they were called Heck.

0:47:160:47:19

He said he was really confused about the brand name,

0:47:190:47:23

and why would anyone buy that packaging?

0:47:230:47:25

"Why would anyone pick it up?"

0:47:250:47:27

'They've turned up today

0:47:280:47:29

'with the same packaging they had three months ago.

0:47:290:47:33

'That combined with their decision to send in Debbie and Ellie

0:47:330:47:36

'may have lost them a vital new buyer.

0:47:360:47:39

'It really frustrates me, it makes me a bit cross.'

0:47:390:47:43

I want them to just start... I just... Oh, I just want to...

0:47:430:47:46

Oh, gosh.

0:47:460:47:48

It's like carrying round a dead weight quite often, you know.

0:47:480:47:52

And I just want to energise them.

0:47:520:47:54

Just come on!

0:47:540:47:56

You know, this is an opportunity of a lifetime to get this much help

0:47:560:48:01

for your little business.

0:48:010:48:02

I think...

0:48:020:48:04

I think that they may be missing that.

0:48:040:48:06

'While we wait to hear back from Booths,

0:48:090:48:12

'there's one other key issue I need to address.

0:48:120:48:14

'Throughout this process,

0:48:150:48:17

'I've noticed Ellie has contributed very little to the business.

0:48:170:48:21

'I'm not 100% sure Debbie and Andrew are being realistic

0:48:210:48:24

'about her responsibilities.'

0:48:240:48:25

Have a sit down.

0:48:270:48:28

'So to help us all evaluate Ellie's role objectively,

0:48:280:48:32

'we're going to interview her for her own job.'

0:48:320:48:35

What I'd like to know is what do you think your strengths are?

0:48:350:48:38

It would probably be talking to customers, I'm quite good at that,

0:48:390:48:43

knowing a lot about the product and what goes into it.

0:48:430:48:47

What opportunities do you see for this brand

0:48:470:48:51

and you as a brand ambassador?

0:48:510:48:52

Opportunities? Yes.

0:48:540:48:56

Erm...

0:48:560:48:57

..I don't...

0:48:590:49:01

I don't know.

0:49:010:49:03

Do you think you're organised?

0:49:030:49:05

I can be. There's days where I'm a bit kind of...

0:49:050:49:08

You're not very organised, are you?

0:49:080:49:10

Well, no, I can be.

0:49:100:49:12

You see, your timekeeping's not great at the moment,

0:49:120:49:15

because you are a bit slow at getting to work and things,

0:49:150:49:19

and getting out of bed and the rest of it.

0:49:190:49:21

No, if I set an alarm on my phone, I don't hear it.

0:49:210:49:23

Well, get yourself a big alarm, darling. That's not a great excuse.

0:49:230:49:26

That's the easiest thing to put right.

0:49:260:49:28

That's an easy thing to put right. It's normally Dad that wakes me up.

0:49:280:49:31

But it's an important thing, darling.

0:49:310:49:33

I mean, I used to go out all night dancing

0:49:330:49:35

and still be in work in the morning, cos I liked doing that.

0:49:350:49:38

You've got to be a self-starter. You've got to be a self-starter.

0:49:380:49:41

You don't want to have to be turfed out of bed by your mum or your dad.

0:49:410:49:45

That is a bit embarrassing, let's face it.

0:49:450:49:47

It means you're in the wrong job, really,

0:49:470:49:48

cos it means you're not enjoying it. Yeah.

0:49:480:49:51

Cos you know what the risk is for you particularly,

0:49:510:49:53

cos you're the baby, and you're the girl,

0:49:530:49:56

is that, actually, you get given a bit more rope.

0:49:560:49:59

But that's not brilliant for you, because one of these days,

0:49:590:50:03

whether it's here or somewhere else,

0:50:030:50:05

you really are going to have to go out and earn your way in the world.

0:50:050:50:07

This is not great training for that.

0:50:070:50:09

I feel that really passionately.

0:50:120:50:14

This has got to be something that is good for you,

0:50:140:50:17

and good for them. It's got to be good both ways. Yeah, absolutely.

0:50:170:50:20

Good luck. Stop putting your fingernails in your mouth!

0:50:200:50:24

I can't help it!

0:50:240:50:26

I think it's good for you to have those kinds of discussions.

0:50:310:50:35

Well, we haven't had enough of them,

0:50:350:50:36

and actually when you do have the discussion,

0:50:360:50:38

it shows you how she's not really enjoying what she's doing.

0:50:380:50:41

Not getting job satisfaction, cos she doesn't know...

0:50:410:50:43

I think she feels like it's a dead-end job.

0:50:430:50:45

I know, but did I think waitressing was a dead-end job?

0:50:450:50:48

Well, no. No, because actually, A - I loved it,

0:50:480:50:53

and B - it was a stepping stone

0:50:530:50:55

to do what I thought I might want to do.

0:50:550:50:59

INTERVIEWER: They seem very concerned

0:50:590:51:00

with what time you wake up in the morning.

0:51:000:51:03

Is this a constant thing? Is this a theme?

0:51:030:51:06

Yeah, it's a habit.

0:51:060:51:07

In college, I didn't have to get up till later.

0:51:090:51:12

It isn't too bad.

0:51:130:51:15

Ellie is going through a bit of a teenager-y bit.

0:51:150:51:19

She's a bit of a spoiled brat, actually, so she needs it,

0:51:190:51:21

she needs a kick up the bottom, really.

0:51:210:51:24

We can only carry her for so long,

0:51:240:51:25

so she needs to buck up her ideas or, you know...

0:51:250:51:29

..get another job.

0:51:300:51:31

'We do need to remember that Ellie is only 18.

0:51:330:51:36

'Maybe giving her such a critical role in the company

0:51:360:51:39

'was a bit unfair.

0:51:390:51:41

'She may just need to learn the ropes for a while.

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'They will need to resolve this for everyone's sake.

0:51:440:51:47

'A few days later, unexpectedly,

0:51:480:51:51

'there's a glimmer of hope from the buyer at Booths.'

0:51:510:51:54

He's very kindly come back to us

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with a list of the sort of things they'd like us to look at.

0:51:560:52:01

'Booths liked the sausages enough to give Heck a second chance,

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'if they can make some amendments to the packaging.'

0:52:050:52:08

The consistency of the gluten-free message, so we need to get the tab

0:52:080:52:11

on every single pack so it looks uniform. He's quite right.

0:52:110:52:15

"And up weigh the provenance message -

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"you're Yorkshire and proud." We ARE Yorkshire and proud.

0:52:170:52:19

"The current packaging does not convey this."

0:52:190:52:21

I think it's that "what the heck" attitude

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that we need to get across there.

0:52:240:52:27

'Knowing to take nothing for granted,

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'it's down to business.'

0:52:290:52:30

"Meet our team" I think is good.

0:52:300:52:32

We'll look at putting some faces on the front of that.

0:52:320:52:34

Stick one to the shelf-ready packaging, right in the middle.

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What, like that? Yeah, just like that.

0:52:370:52:39

There's a sticker on the pack,

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"Young, fun and having a go."

0:52:400:52:42

Who's Heck, who's not?

0:52:430:52:45

David Cameron, not Heck.

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No? He's definitely not Heck, is he?

0:52:490:52:51

Who would be? Boris Johnson.

0:52:510:52:52

He'd be Heck, wouldn't he?

0:52:520:52:54

Prince Harry's quite Heck. He's very Heck.

0:52:540:52:56

He's Heck - he was naked with a load of...

0:52:560:52:59

That's not Heck!

0:52:590:53:00

It's quite Heck. That's dirty.

0:53:000:53:02

It is. It's quite Heck if you remember the royal family.

0:53:020:53:05

'Three weeks later, Andrew is back to deliver Heck's revised product.'

0:53:090:53:14

We've done quite a lot since we last saw these guys.

0:53:140:53:18

We've done some changes on some new packs -

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"proud and independent",

0:53:210:53:22

that's one of the things that came out through Alex's conversations.

0:53:220:53:25

Yeah, I've got some delicious sausages,

0:53:250:53:27

and I think he'll be very happy with them, hopefully.

0:53:270:53:29

He's expecting them, so you take good care of those and that'd be grand.

0:53:290:53:33

Cheers, thank you very much indeed. Thanks very much.

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In the lap of the gods now.

0:53:350:53:37

'Throughout this process,

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'there has been a sensitive issue playing on my mind -

0:53:430:53:45

'Ellie's role in the family business.

0:53:450:53:47

'But three months after I first arrived,

0:53:470:53:50

'I'm relieved to hear Andrew and Debbie

0:53:500:53:52

'are finally being more realistic.'

0:53:520:53:53

I think she's probably just a little bit too young to join the business.

0:53:530:53:58

Well, certainly in a role of responsibility.

0:53:590:54:03

She needs just a little bit like a year out.

0:54:030:54:05

She's got huge potential, but we're just not getting it out of her.

0:54:070:54:11

I think she just needs time to grow up a bit more, you know.

0:54:110:54:14

'My intention was never to undermine Ellie's involvement

0:54:160:54:19

'in the family business,

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'but now it's being re-evaluated,

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'I want to ensure she's thinking positively about her future.'

0:54:220:54:27

If, let's say, it doesn't start making money, and it closed,

0:54:270:54:31

what would you do?

0:54:310:54:32

I don't know, really. I'd have to go out

0:54:330:54:35

and start looking for jobs straightaway.

0:54:350:54:37

Me and my dad have actually spoken about going out

0:54:370:54:39

and working for another company for a couple of months.

0:54:390:54:41

I think it would be good, darling.

0:54:410:54:43

Also, you should think about what aspect it is of Heck

0:54:430:54:47

that you want to concentrate on further down the line,

0:54:470:54:50

and try and go to a company that's going to give you experience

0:54:500:54:53

in that aspect of working. Yeah.

0:54:530:54:55

I mean, that makes sense.

0:54:550:54:57

If you're going to do merchandise,

0:54:570:54:59

maybe you should go and spend some time in a design company

0:54:590:55:02

and see how things happen.

0:55:020:55:04

You've got to think about what it is that you really want to do

0:55:040:55:07

and not be a passive. Don't be so passive!

0:55:070:55:10

Don't let the world just...

0:55:100:55:12

Don't just be dragged along in the slipstream, darling. Yep.

0:55:120:55:16

Cos I know you're young, but it's good to be young,

0:55:160:55:19

and to have an idea about what you want to do in life,

0:55:190:55:22

rather than just tip out of bed and do it because it's there.

0:55:220:55:28

Yeah. Yes?

0:55:280:55:29

I want to energise you and make you feel

0:55:290:55:31

like the world should be your oyster at this age.

0:55:310:55:34

'I feel more confident now about Ellie,

0:55:350:55:38

'and I'm pleased to hear Jamie's got a proper grip

0:55:380:55:40

'on the company's facts and figures

0:55:400:55:42

'and is playing a key role in the business.'

0:55:420:55:45

He has stepped up to the plate.

0:55:450:55:46

He's been coming up to a lot of retailer meetings with me now

0:55:460:55:49

and I think he's wanting to get more involved in the business.

0:55:490:55:52

He's always been a bit slow on the uptake,

0:55:540:55:55

but he absolutely gets it now.

0:55:550:55:58

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OK, got it.

0:56:010:56:04

'But the future for Heck...' Hello?

0:56:040:56:06

'..could all rest on a decision from Booths.'

0:56:060:56:09

Hi. I've just had Booths on the phone...

0:56:160:56:18

Yes? ..and it is good news, so we have got in.

0:56:180:56:20

Fantastic, well done! It's not well done me.

0:56:200:56:24

Actually, it is well done, actually.

0:56:240:56:26

Brilliant, well done, fantastic.

0:56:260:56:28

Hi, Alex. Hi. I'm just here with Debbie.

0:56:290:56:33

We've just had Booths on the phone,

0:56:330:56:35

and they've given us a listing, which is fantastic news.

0:56:350:56:37

Well done. Woo-hoo!

0:56:370:56:39

Woo-hoo!

0:56:390:56:41

That's great news. At last, we have something to celebrate.

0:56:410:56:45

We do indeed.

0:56:450:56:46

We're pulling the cork and raising a glass to you tonight.

0:56:460:56:49

I'm thrilled to hear your good news.

0:56:490:56:50

I send you all lots of love.

0:56:500:56:52

Take care of yourself. Thanks, Alex. Bye. Bye!

0:56:520:56:54

'Four months ago, I took on a family business bursting with potential,

0:56:570:57:01

'but riddled with problems.'

0:57:010:57:03

Sometimes, you can't see the woods through the trees

0:57:030:57:05

and it's a brilliant expression. That's really how it was.

0:57:050:57:07

Now we can see.

0:57:070:57:08

We can see everything that we need to see

0:57:080:57:10

I think a lot better than we did beforehand.

0:57:100:57:12

'But this small business's decision to put themselves

0:57:130:57:16

'at the mercy of the powerful supermarkets

0:57:160:57:18

'appears to be finally paying off and the floodgates are opening.'

0:57:180:57:22

Got an e-mail from ASDA,

0:57:230:57:25

confirming that we've got 280 stores,

0:57:250:57:26

which is absolutely fantastic.

0:57:260:57:29

Yup, another door opening, and she's from Waitrose,

0:57:290:57:31

so that's really good.

0:57:310:57:33

'They're now on the shelves of over a thousand stores

0:57:330:57:36

'and a step closer to realising their dream

0:57:360:57:38

'of being the number one premium brand.

0:57:380:57:41

'I absolutely have faith in the Keebles

0:57:410:57:43

'that they'll be able do whatever they set their minds to.

0:57:430:57:46

'They're pretty ten-foot tall and bulletproof, that lot.'

0:57:460:57:49

Obviously, they take enormous comfort

0:57:490:57:51

from the fact that they're working as a family.

0:57:510:57:54

This process has been invaluable,

0:57:540:57:57

cos it has made us look at roles with the kids.

0:57:570:58:01

I've certainly been tougher, but a lot fairer.

0:58:010:58:04

'And for the very first time, this month,

0:58:040:58:07

'they haven't faced a loss.'

0:58:070:58:09

?1,500 of profit is really small,

0:58:090:58:13

but, bloody hell, we'll have that, thank you very much indeed.

0:58:130:58:15

We ain't going to go back to losing money. That's it.

0:58:150:58:18

It's a turning point -

0:58:180:58:19

?1,500 of profit will be 15 grand in a couple of months' time.

0:58:190:58:23

I think 2014 is going to be a fantastic year.

0:58:260:58:28

MUSIC: "Good Morning Freedom" by Blue Mink

0:58:290:58:32

The baddest teacher is back.

0:59:020:59:05

It's summer term! CHEERING

0:59:050:59:07

And by "bad", we mean...

0:59:070:59:08

Rule!

0:59:080:59:09

One more game, then back to work?

0:59:090:59:11

ALL CHANT: Judas! Judas! I quit!

0:59:110:59:13

.."not good."

0:59:130:59:14

It's a snake!

0:59:140:59:15

You thought that Hitler's first name was Heil? Heil Hitler.

0:59:150:59:18

Your hip-hop moves are about THIS far from a race crime.

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