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I'm Alex Polizzi. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
I cut my teeth inside my family's international hotel empire, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
and now run a multi-million pound food business with my husband. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Last year, I battled to save six failing family firms. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
I don't know if it's ever going to get better. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
You must see some hope, otherwise let's not bother with this. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
In the midst of the recession, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
every month 1,000 businesses were going bust. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
This business is on a knife edge. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
At some point we're going to have to have to call it a day. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
But for families, it was more than finance. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
£50,000 now and you'll never see me again. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
Now I'm heading back to see how it's all turned out. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
This is a business! You're ruining your health, you're ruining your family life. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
He's just used to getting his own way and I'm used to getting mine. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
This week, I'm returning to two companies that were both run by parents that couldn't let go. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:02 | |
We're different from anybody else, and what's so wrong with being different? | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
A furniture store that was close to folding... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
It just got quieter and quieter and quieter. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
I don't think that it's all that bad, personally. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
..ruled by a dad so stubborn he was forcing his son out of the business. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
I could quite happily not come in tomorrow. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
And a seaside bakery that was not making enough dough... | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
We need to do something, for God's sake. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
..run by a matriarchal queen mum struggling to give up her crown. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
I honestly beg you, Elaine, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
to think about how you are going to work this hierarchy. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
This conversation has gone too far anyway. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
First up, I'm heading to a struggling family furniture shop on the outskirts of Leeds. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:51 | |
The furniture business is going through a dramatic decline. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
This has been a terrible year so far. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
People think in a recession much more carefully | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
about spending money on big ticket items. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
To survive, furniture stores need to be flexible, fashionable and ready to move with the times, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:09 | |
or risk dying of old age. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Kettley's is... was a traditional shop. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
It still is a traditional shop to this day. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Customers are probably 50-plus, looking for | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
old-style traditional furniture, from an old-style traditional furnishers like ourselves. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
John Butler is king of Kettley's. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
But it's a kingdom that's crumbling. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Profits have been falling year on year and in 2010, they nosedived. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
We're not falling over ourself with the customers. It's hard to get them in at the moment. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
From 2009 onwards, it just got quieter and quieter and quieter. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:54 | |
If the family fail to modernise, they simply won't have a future. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
But John seems blind to the problems. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
It's pretty good for a furniture shop is this, ain't it? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Causing a gaping rift with his family co-workers - | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
nephew Andrew, niece Nicola and, worst of all, with his son | 0:03:09 | 0:03:15 | |
David who had told one day to take this business into the future. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
We do need to communicate better, yeah. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
There's some days I'll come into work and me and me dad won't talk to each other at all. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:28 | |
We're not close, you know. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
We're not like this kissy-kissy, huggy-huggy type of thing, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
but our family has never really been like that. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
I need to snap John and Kettley's out of this terrible time warp, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
or there may be nothing left for the next generation to inherit. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
I hope she isn't too harsh on us, because obviously I don't want her ripping the place apart. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
I don't think that it's all that bad, personally. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
Hmm. I can't say I'm overwhelmed as a first impression. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
There's a lot of window and a lot of furniture, but no window display, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
and there is a very strange collection of "objets" in the window. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
-I'm Alex. -Pleased to meet you. My name's John. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
How are you? | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Very glad to be here. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
'How glad I stay depends literally on what's in store.' | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
Well, John Lewis this ain't. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
It does surprise me already that there's no attempt at all to kind of up-sell. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:40 | |
There's nothing that suggests a bedroom set, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
ie beds with tables either side. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
I mean, this is like a warehouse. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Online shopping may be popular, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
but when it comes to furniture people prefer to try before they buy, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
which means in this business, the showroom is everything. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Honestly, you don't see many shops like this any more. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
It's a kind of museum piece. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
Not only is this place uncomfortably crowded, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
it's also littered with old tat. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
I don't know quite what to say about that, except I never want it in my house. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Why is Betty Boop on that table next to lots of silk flowers? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
This shop looks as if it was put together by someone who has lost their mind. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:31 | |
You've got an awful lot of stock. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
You know, it all merges in. It's all a bit boring, frankly. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
I would struggle to find one thing I wanted to buy in here, and I don't say that to be hurtful. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
I just say that as a matter of fact. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Downstairs looks like an old people's home. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Maybe we should try and aim at a slightly younger demographic. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
Widen your customer base. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
A younger generation, you mean? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
Well, don't look so horrified! | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
I agree that, er, a lot of people come into the shop | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
not realising that we've got a lot more, you know, suites on display. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
They just think it's old-fashioned chairs. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
I've analysed the demographics of this area, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
and there's a lot more people under 50 than there are over 50. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
We do get younger people in here. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
-They just walk back out straight away. -No, they don't. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Sweetheart, I just don't understand what's so inimical to you | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
that you can't handle the idea that you might have some stuff in here | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
that might be more attractive to a 30-year-old. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
You know, open your eyes. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
This is what's happening to the world, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
that you have to do a lot more different things to even maintain your market share. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:41 | |
To stand any chance of turning this firm around, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
I'll need to drag John kicking and screaming into the 21st-century. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
Son David is desperate to take the lead, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
but it feels like family tensions are putting paid to any progress. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Do you find it hard working for the family, working for your dad? Do you butt heads? | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
I do find it hard sometimes. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
I asked my dad if he wanted me working here and he never give me an answer, yes or no. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
-It's hard working with your family. -Yeah, I've done it all my life, I know. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
I worked with my mother for years, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
and know first-hand that earning the respect of your parents is tough. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
But at Kettley's, this task seems almost insurmountable. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-Do you like him working for you? -Yeah, I hope I do, yeah. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
-What do you mean, you hope you do? -Well, he's been here long enough! | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
That's not saying one thing or t'other. "I hope I do." | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Yeah, obviously there's them little moments in time when you think, "Cor, I could do without this." | 0:07:32 | 0:07:38 | |
It is the most hurtful thing in the world | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
when your parent is what you perceive to be unfair to you. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
It's bad enough in normal life. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
When that's in your workplace, it's virtually unbearable. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
A divided and demoralised team will never be able to take the firm forward. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
I'm going to have to bring this issue to a head. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
What it seems clear to me, after a day spent with you, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
is that there's some basic areas where there could be improvements. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
The most obvious one, and one that I see a lot in family businesses, is the area of communication. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
Do you need to clear the air about anything? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
Why are you so quiet? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
-Probably because me dad doesn't want me to speak. -I'll go if you want. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
Why? What are you talking about? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I asked you, didn't I, on Thursday if you wanted me to work at the shop and you never said yes. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
When you ask your own father if he want... if he wants you to work with him | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
and you don't get an answer yes, it's quite upsetting. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
I wouldn't force you to come into the shop. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
It's entirely your decision. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
But that's not the answer I wanted to hear. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
The answer is you do whatever's the best for you. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
If you feel that I'm too overbearing in that shop | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
and you can make your headway somewhere else in life, then that's totally up to you. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
I just want to go home now, to be honest with you. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Don't start phoning me up when I get home, neither. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
That was pretty tense, and I didn't really want to push it. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
I think family dynamics are always quite hard and I should tread on eggshells. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
I think what's important is trying to get them to talk to each other. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Everything she said, Alex, you know, is pretty true. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
But, er, I don't think it'll make much difference, really. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
If I were to be totally truthful, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
I could quite happily not come in tomorrow. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
The second company I'm visiting is a family-run baker's | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
in Padstow on the coast of Cornwall. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Each summer, over 15 million holidaymakers descend on this picturesque corner of England. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
It's the home of celebrity chef Rick Stein, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
and has become a big focus for foodies. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
I'm on this beautiful fishing harbour in a very pretty town | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
that's become synonymous with some very good food in the south west | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
and it seems to me that this is a very good place to have a food business. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
But despite the perfect harbour-side setting, all is not well at the bakery. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
Five months of the year, we lose money. In March last year, we lost something like... | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
Was it nearly 30,000? In one month! You know. Crazy! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
# Well, what a bummer! # | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Chough's was founded over 30 years ago by husband and wife Elaine and Rob Ead. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:36 | |
I suppose I'm the great visionary of the company. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Oh, lovely jubbly. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Mother is the boss. I'll give you that. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
She's definitely the boss! | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
After so long running the business, the couple are nearing retirement, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
so they've made their daughter Louisa the manager | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
and put son Greg in charge of sales, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
but the transition hasn't been easy. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Can we just get back to the whole idea and the point of this... | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
this discussion and the reason why, you know, you... | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
-I'm just trying to plan. -Yeah, you're trying to plan. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
Working with families. I don't know whether I'd recommend it to anyone. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
On top of family frictions, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
the shop suffers from a crippling collapse of business during the quieter winter months. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
Elaine has had to remortgage her house to keep the firm afloat. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Action is desperately needed if the bakery is to have any hope of a future. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
This business is on a knife edge. If it doesn't change, no-one will have a job. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
We'll all be out of work. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
Even though I've got some insider knowledge of this industry, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
transforming the fortunes of this family is going to be a huge challenge. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
I do have a certain amount of experience in bakeries, as I have a wholesale bakery myself. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
But I have never had a shop. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
My immediate impression is it doesn't make you want to charge in | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
and buy your Cornish pasty here, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
despite the location being immaculate. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
The signage that tells you that everything is made locally | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
on the premises daily looks very generic. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
There's a broken window, which gives a very bad impression. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Every single day tripper who comes off a ferry | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
is going to come just from there. They HAVE to pass this shop. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
They should be making money out of every single person | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
who comes into this town. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
'Inside, there's more bad news. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
'Untidy signs and stickers litter the place.' | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
They do have a real obsession with sticking things on windows, clearly. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
The bread, in a side window, looks pretty ordinary, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
while the range of cakes and confectionary is a flashback to the '70s. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
Not at all what I'd expect in such a famously foodie town. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-Hello. -Hello, how are you? Alex Polizzi. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
-I'm very well, I'm Elaine. -Lovely to be here. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-You've come to help me make some sandwiches today, is that right? -Great. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
So tell me, you started this about 30 years ago. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Yes. I had the cunning plan that maybe we could open a bakery | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
in Padstow as there actually wasn't one at the time, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
-a production bakery. -Yeah. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
And I think I created a monster, to be quite honest, Alex. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Elaine's daughter Louisa has been here over nine years. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Part of her job is overseeing the production of Chough's award-winning Cornish pasty. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:25 | |
Who decides on recipes and what to do next and...? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
I have been trying to make curried pasties for a few years, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
and my mother keeps saying, "Over my dead body," so... after the wake, that'll be there. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:37 | |
Louisa seems keen to develop this side of the business, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
but I can see how escaping the shadow of her mother might not be easy. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
If it's working, you know, don't fix it. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
That's, that's my sort of... If it ain't broke, don't fix it. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
That's been my attitude. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
She's biting at the bit now, I think, to change it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
At the end of the day it's her baby, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
and she's not going to pass it over lightly, I can tell you that. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
The family dysfunction hasn't escaped dad Rob, who seems trapped in the crossfire. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
The business has got to change. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
It's no use staying as we are or going backwards. We've got to move forwards. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
They've got to learn to concentrate on the important thing about moving forward, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
the need for agreement, and really, if we don't, you know, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
we could just have to sell the business and put the beast out of its misery, so to speak. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
If the business is to survive into the next generation, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
the family must also tackle the problem of seasonality. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
-Son Greg is in charge of wholesale business. -Alex, nice to meet you. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
This should be providing the company with turnover beyond the busy summer. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
What proportion of the business, overall in the year, is wholesale? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
-Well, it was only 15% last year. -15%? -Yeah. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Chough's has a large offsite bakery run by Elaine's nephew, Ryan. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
It could be churning out pasties for distribution by the thousand, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
protecting them from chilling winter financial figures. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
In March, they made a significant loss of 16%. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
Based on the size of their bakery and the size of my bakery, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
that surprises me, because even in the very worst month, we never make more than a 10% loss. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
Running a family business is tough, particularly in the current climate. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
But problems like squabbling and seasonality will never just go away. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
And if the family can't see that, then I got no chance of saving Chough's. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Your bottom line, at the moment, looks quite profitable | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
because you two, you don't draw a salary, per se, and it isn't shown in this profit, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
and you're still having to recommit your own money into the business | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
to keep it going through the lean times, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
and so the figures are completely skewed. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
You making your fantastic, award-winning pasties isn't enough. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
The bottom line is time's running out for us two, really. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
I'm aware. I'm aware of that. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
At Kettley's furniture shop in Yorkshire, time is also | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
running out for father and son to save their souring relationship. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
Son David is desperate to modernise in order to save the business, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
but dad John is resolutely resisting change. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
My dad has been here that long he's probably a bit too set in his ways. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
If you didn't have any ornaments displayed on your furniture, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
it would look a bit bland. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
From what I've seen so far, the family seem like good salesmen, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
but their tired shop simply doesn't attract enough customers. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
I want them to broaden the store's appeal beyond the over-60s market, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
and I'm dying to show them just how easily that is done. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
I thought we would start the day by trying to do a room set. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
-Right. -What do you think? -Yeah, very good. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
Room sets are standard in the furniture industry. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Every branch of IKEA has 48 of these room displays, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
helping towards sales of over a billion a year. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
I know how it can set out in that room, and I've said before | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
it should be a room setting in there. You can visualise it | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
then, that it's your living room, can't you? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
Right, so that's about right there, isn't it? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Nicola and David are happily getting stuck into the room revolution. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
Although not everyone is so enthusiastic. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Oh, get all the young 'uns involved. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
I'll sit in the office taking the phone calls. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-Fantastic! -Yeah. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
But will John agree? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Oh, God, here we go. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
I think it looks nice. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
I like the way it's set out, you know. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
What do you think to all these pillows all over the settees? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
I mean, these specifically in recliners. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-That really doesn't work, does it, really? -Doesn't it? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Well, if you're going to sit in that now, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
-you want to try it as a recliner, don't you? -Yeah. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
You have to take that cushion out of there. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
-Can I try this chair now? -Yes, certainly, sir. Please sit down. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
So that's got to be moved, for a start. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
So I'm going to go like this... "Oops-a-daisy, I've broke me legs!" | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
You've got two chairs that are exactly the same. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
You don't probably need to try this one. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
Let's move this a bit further bloody away. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
It's not the end of the world, is it? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
I think we should try a bedroom display | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
in one of the windows. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
-There isn't enough room. -If you put a metal bedstead | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
where you didn't have to back it onto anything, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
you could get a metal bedstead in. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
Well, you do it. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
I think at the end of the day, you'll end up...you won't gain sales. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
I think you'll lose sales, ultimately. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Well, we have to try these things, don't we? | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
It seems to me | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
that John is being purposefully obstructionist. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
He doesn't really want to have a reasonable discussion. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
He's just used to getting his own way and I'm used to getting mine, so we'll see. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
It'll be interesting to see what happens. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Winning the battle with John is clearly going to take some time, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
but how Kettley's presents itself to the wider world needs sorting out now. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
One problem they have is in marketing and advertising. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
If I was being polite, I would say that the ads are dated. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
If I was being honest, I'd just say they're awful. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
I'm desperate to shake John out of his comfort zone, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
so I've brought him and Nicola London for an advertising master class. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
These award-winning ad men work with mega brands like Coca-Cola and Sony Ericsson. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
So I'm intrigued to see what they make of Kettley's ad. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Shall we have a look at the ads, the existing stuff? They're very busy. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
Let's start with the headline, shall we? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
OK. It's a strong headline, but it's negative from the off. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
It's almost like, "No, don't come here!" | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
-But then it says, "Then visit Kettley's." -Absolutely, but if you look at the size of this, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
it's pretty much the biggest word in the whole ad. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-That's a very good point. Negative. -And the red spells danger. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
If we look at the messaging, though, it's very mixed at the moment. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
It's cluttered. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
It just needs to be streamlined. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
'Low footfall is a big problem for the shop. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
'I hope we can reinvent their marketing | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
'and draw in a crowd | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
'without alienating their current clientele.' | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
Each one of these balls has a message on it, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
-but you only caught two messages. -Yeah. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
That's just what the people who are reading the adverts are experiencing. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
Their current ad is as cluttered as the shop. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
They need to come up with a targeted marketing message. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
The point is that even though people are old, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
they still have taste, they still have discernment, they still want something. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
And we really need to try and make it relevant again. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
It hasn't changed the way that I feel about it as a business, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
because we are still selling the same products, but I think | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
we're not portraying it as it should be to the customer. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
It may not be wholehearted, but this is the first time John has even acknowledged the need for change. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
Over half the people living near Kettley's are under 60, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
but I can't believe any of them shop here. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
If the business is to survive, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
then they also need to attract these younger customers. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
To overhaul the firm's antiquated image, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
I've asked Nicola to pick out furniture to target a more youthful clientele, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
and arranged a photo shoot with a company to capture | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
the aspirational look Kettley's so desperately needs to promote. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
At the moment, they're using generic images, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
and it's time they did something representative of their shop, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
and then hopefully we will end up with an image | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
that you feel will take you into the next chapter. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
There's a real skill to this. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
On average, we look at print ads for less than three seconds, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
so we need to grab the customers' attention with the right image. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
-You can see how it's coming together, definitely. -I know, it's amazing. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
And it's amazing how moving something just ten centimetres, two centimetres... | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
This all now works really nicely. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
-So what do you think? -It looks amazing, does that. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
You wouldn't think that was the furniture from our showroom! | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Yeah, it's really, really good. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
It's fantastic. I'm absolutely thrilled. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Really pleased. Thank you. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
I'm starting to understand now that less is more. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
We are devaluing the products by squashing them all in. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
These pictures will form the basis of a new campaign | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
that showcases their furniture in a much more contemporary way. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
But it's pointless having pretty photos if the shop just doesn't match up. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
There's a lot of accessories, and there's a plethora of styles. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
Chuck them all in the bin or give them to a charity shop. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
I don't mind what you do, I just want them off the floor. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
The majority of these are John's original ornaments from home. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Four, five, six. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
I think the poodle's worse than the pig. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
ALEX GASPS | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
I can't see anybody buying this. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
But once again, not everybody is happy. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
That one item looks like a solitary item in there now. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-There's nothing wrong with putting something else in it. -It's better. -With one piece? -Yeah. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
-I'd rather see that cabinet bare than a load of shite in it. -Not everybody's tastes are the same. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
I had hoped John was beginning to come round to the idea of change, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
but judging by the atmosphere around here, that clearly isn't the case. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
-How's everything with your dad? -I have been at the end of my tether, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
along with everybody else, in, you know, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
that we do want certain changes to happen, you know, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
we're keen, we're looking forward to it | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
but there is somebody holding us back, you know, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
and that person needs convincing the most. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
-I'm absolutely sure that it's going to come good. I promise you. -Yeah. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
It has to be given a chance, yeah? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Yeah. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
OK. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
Clearing out the chintz is one thing, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
but what this place really needs is a massive makeover. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
David can't seem to convince Dad, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
but maybe the soft touch can crack this tough nut. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
It is important to me that you understand | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
that I am completely on the side of this business, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
and it's just that there's the young ones in this business | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
-who would love to see things change a bit, I believe. -Right. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
And who suggest to me | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
that it's really you dragging your heels. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
There are certain aspects of it that I totally don't agree with. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
What you should do is send me away for two weeks | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
-and I'll come back and tell you if I like it. -Fine. Absolutely fine. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
-You're serious about this, aren't you? -I am, I am. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Oh, all right, then. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
I can only hope John sticks to his suggestion and leaves David | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
and I to make the changes this place so desperately needs. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
At Chough's bakery in Cornwall, the head of the | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
family is also part of the problem. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Owner Elaine says she is ready to retire, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
but won't let her children take the reins. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
We can't just do our individual things. We've got to work together. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
We need to do something. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
The family do have a great product in their award-winning pasty, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
but the constant bickering about who is in charge means | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
they are not making the most of it, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
and as for their shop in picturesque Padstow - well, the less said about that the better. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
Come and look at this place. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
What do you think, standing here looking in? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
This is a mess. Constantly saying that front window... | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I come down after a couple of days off and we've got posters here, and I just go, "Take it out." | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
Just bloody take it out. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
But you're the one that says, "Oh, I want a sign in the window that says bacon baps. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
"I want that Cornish Pasty Association poster in that window." | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
So a lot of it is stuff that you've told people to do. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
I think the important thing is | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
let's do what we can now to make it all look better, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
and arrange for a glazier to come and fix that window. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Absolutely, yeah. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
Instead of having someone else's bread, let's have our own real bread in the window. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
-It's our bread. -All right, yeah, fine. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
But it's a two-dimensional image instead of three-dimensional, REAL, fresh-baked bread. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
I seem to have got them quite fired up. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
It is frustrating, though, because this is all fairly basic stuff. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
These are the first small steps. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
I'm hoping that this is just the beginning of the momentum they'll gain, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and it's going to take all of them to fully sign up to this process | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
to make sure we achieve as much as we need to. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
But as the family clear out the bakery, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
not everybody is embracing the change. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
And it's got all these nasty hooks and yellow spots. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Yeah, well, that's for the Christmas decorations. Oh, no. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
How long have you waited to tell me this? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
I've wanted to tell you ever since I've been working here, but I wouldn't dare. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
OK. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
For the last two years she's been talking about, saying, "Oh, I'm going to be 60 soon. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
"I want to retire, it's time I took a step back." | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
But she can't. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
It works like any other business, I should imagine. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
If whoever owns Tesco's walks into one of his stores I'm sure the store manager, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
if he tells him to move that over there, he's going to do it. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
It's like she can't leave it alone. It's her baby, she built it, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
she developed it, she'll always be down there interfering. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
OK? £6.50, please. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
So, Greg and Louisa say they are ready to take the business on, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
but they need to prove that to their mother. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
I think developing a frozen pasty could be the way forward, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
giving Chough's star product true wholesale potential. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
But in order to convince Elaine, Louisa must come up with | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
the perfect recipe. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
We are going to part bake them, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
but we're going to part bake them for different times, to see | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
which is going to give us the best result. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
First out of the oven for the all-important taste test, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
a pasty part baked for a short spell. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
# Da da da da! # | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Wow. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
Oh, my gosh. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
-They look very good. -The pastry is holding up nicely, isn't it? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Yes, it certainly is. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Doesn't taste... | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
It's dry. It's very dry. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
Baking a freezable pastry product is a tricky business. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Here's hoping Louisa's second batch, with a longer part bake, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
will pass muster with Mum. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
Oh, that's better. Look at the juice and gravy coming out. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
The pastry's a lot thicker. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
Yeah, this is tasty. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
-It's quite nice. -It's good. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
So what do you think? | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
After all this, do you think it's possible now | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
to produce a frozen pasty that meets your exacting standards? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Exactly. Yeah, I do, I do. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
Hallelujah! Louisa's second pasty is a hit. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
And it's a big step towards developing a product that's | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
suitable for shipping out to retailers. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
But the pasty isn't the only thing I'd like to see hitting the road. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
I have a challenge for you. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
-OK. -Which is... | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
I would like you to try and sell your pasties | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
at a big event. Christmas fairs, football matches. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
And you could do something throughout the year. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
-So are you up for it? -Yeah, definitely. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Local craft fairs and sales like this one run throughout the year | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
and are a great way to generate income during the quieter months. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
-Can we interest you in a Cornish pasty? -We're warming them up currently in our oven as well, so... | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
Thank you. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
Come and try a Cornish pasty. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Couple of cheese, leek and onions too. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
That's £5, please. Thank you. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
And it's not long before the pasties are flying off the shelves, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
getting the attention of the punters and the organisers. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
We're wondered if you'd be interested in attending on a Saturday, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
-because it's full of market traders, that sort of thing. -Is it busier than this? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
It's a lot busier on a Saturday. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
I do think there's mileage in it, if it's costed up properly, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
obviously equipped properly, and, like, filling up the spare capacity in the winter time. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:05 | |
After a successful sale, back in Padstow, it's all go, go, go! | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
Louisa has set about overhauling the bakery's outdated confectionery range. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
I've just done a lemon drizzle and a chocolate brownie. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
Kerry's doing hazelnut muffins. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
While nephew Ryan is experimenting with some speciality breads. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
They looked nice, so I'm just having a go just to see if we get anything. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
But all this hard work will count for nothing if Greg can't manage | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
to secure the wholesale customers their frozen pasty is crying out for. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
Hello. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
Hi, Greg. Alex Polizzi here. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
'Hi, Alex. How are you?' | 0:31:45 | 0:31:46 | |
'I'm fine. I just wanted to be told' | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
-what you've been up to. -'Well, unfortunately,' | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
we haven't moved on much from when we met with you last. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
-'Right.' -So... | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
Well, sourcing potential customers is up to you, isn't it, darling? | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
-'So how are you with that?' -Yeah, it is. I've got a list of five or six. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
-Right. -But until we know that we can mass produce this, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
we can't approach them. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
What's holding me back isn't that I don't want to do it. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
I'm being held back by others who are saying, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
"Don't go and approach them because we haven't ticked the boxes we need to tick in terms of production." | 0:32:15 | 0:32:22 | |
-Let's see if they like the bloody product! OK, thank you. -All right, bye. -Bye. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:28 | |
It's hugely disappointing that Greg doesn't seem to be doing anything with the leads he's found. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
But he seems to be saying that someone is holding him back. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
Once again, the lack of clear leadership is stifling the future of this business. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
I truly believed after my first visit here that this was somewhere | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
I was going to be able to make a huge difference. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
I was going to be able to dramatically change their fortunes | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
and I feel like I've been stymied by the family's procrastination. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
'If I can't get the family to agree to a new way forward, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
'I fear all my hard work may well have been in vain. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
'So, I have gathered the whole clan together to finally confront the issue.' | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
I think the whole succession of the place | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
needs to be discussed and who ultimately is in charge. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
There has to be someone with whom the ultimate authority rests. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
And what I've seen is that the person who...when... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
when I needed stuff done has always sprung to the doing, is Lou. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
It's nice to have someone who doesn't procrastinate and gets on with stuff. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
If we make a decision in your absence, if you don't like that decision, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
"Well, I wouldn't have done it like that, so we're not doing it any more." | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
It's not discussed beforehand. That's the problem. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
There's a lot of discussing that goes on, but the discussing never seems to really lead anywhere. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:55 | |
-Absolutely. -I can't imagine how you feel about it because I feel sick. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
-Yeah, I do. -And I beg you, Elaine, to think about how you're going to work this hierarchy. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:04 | |
-Ultimately, you have to decide who's going to be in charge, OK? -Yeah. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
What more could I do? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
I'm sure that some of that was very hard for them to hear, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
particularly Elaine, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
but I honestly don't think that I would have done my job if I'd avoided saying it. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
At the moment, Lou's got a lot of skills to learn before she can step into my shoes. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
Sometimes you've just got to let people do it on their own, and if they screw up, they screw up. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
But you've got to try and let it happen. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
There's been a four-year plan for about ten years. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
The thing is, if you carry on hovering around, no-one's going to take that responsibility. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
So you can guarantee me now... All of you, £50,000 now, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
I'll walk away and you'll never see me again. OK? | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
-Well, that's not what we're saying. -No, no, no, no. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
-That's not what we're saying. -"We can do it without you." | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
No, we're not even saying that at all. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
No, no, this is... This conversation's gone too far anyway. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
I think over and out, please. Thank you very much, gentlemen. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
-You know, I'm sorry. -I'm not going to go on with this any more. It's... | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
And there we go. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
When someone's cornered, they tend to lash out and they tend to not think the thing through. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
If she doesn't, and Louisa turns her back on it and walks away, that's the business gone, for my... | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
It's all been for nothing, then. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
At Kettley's furniture store near Leeds, things have also come to a head. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
The Butler family have shut up shop, but only for a much-needed makeover. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
With Dad taking a self-imposed leave of absence, son David is finally | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
able to get on with the changes he has been hoping to make for years. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
New carpet, wallpaper, painted walls... | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
And an elegant new logo brings the Kettley's storefront up-to-date. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
Oh, my gosh. Wow! | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
The refit is ambitious. The family are investing their own money and manpower | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
so we can push the boundaries as far as possible. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
But with the re-launch to public just hours away, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
there's still a mountain of work to be done. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
I mean, downstairs, the chairs are still in utter chaos. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
The ground floor is still a long way to go. But it has to be done tonight. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
Even if we do get the work finished, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
the big hurdle will be convincing the King of Kettley's that | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
the new look works, before we launch it to the public. And he's due back any moment. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
I'm hoping he's going to go, "Wow!" and I think he should go, "Wow!" | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
-You know, I'm -... -me pants, I honestly am. I'm really nervous. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
Really nervous. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
The best thing, right, would be for me dad to come in and say, "Oh!" and start crying. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
That would be probably the most amazing thing I'd ever see. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
-Are you all convinced that we've done the right thing? -I'm happy with the way it looks. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
It does look stunning and it looks beautiful. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
It's just such a wow factor. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
It's been a long wait. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Can't say we haven't put anything into it, that's for sure. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
The question is, will John like it? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
Look at him, look at him! | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
THEY SING A FANFARE | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
I can't believe it. I really can't. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
It looks really good. I think I'll stop here tonight! | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
I really like it. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
It's thumbs up for the ground floor. Next, the beds. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
Well, if anybody doesn't like this, they've got to be crazy. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Ah! Ah, well. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
-APPLAUSE -Listen to that! | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
That's what we wanted to hear. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
I mean, it's absolutely stunning, really. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
I can't believe it. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
-I really like it. -Yeah? -Yeah? -Good. -Oh, love you! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
Every piece of furniture in the shop was here before. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
It's just been presented in a more aspirational way. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
By following this simple retail principle, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
Kettley's now feels worlds away from its dreary past. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
I'm absolutely thrilled. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
He seemed genuinely pleased by the whole thing. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
You wouldn't believe it were the same stuff. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
You can tell he genuinely does think it looks lovely. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
-Oh, I'm so pleased! -He does think it looks nice. -Well done, darling! | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
So now all we need is a few customers to come in and go, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
-"Oh, my goodness, this looks fab!" -Yeah. -And he'll be happy. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
What do you think? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
I'm amazed. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Absolutely amazed. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
I wouldn't have thought of coming here for furniture. Now I would. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
And it's not just the usual crowd here today - | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
the shop is now appealing to a much younger clientele. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
-I never realised there were all these things that -I -would buy. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
I just thought it'd be stuff for my parents! | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
I like it. It's nice, clean, uncluttered. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
Looks fantastic, yeah, really exciting. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
-Do you like it? Do you like it? Hmm? -No. -No?! | 0:39:51 | 0:39:57 | |
Well, you can't please them all! | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
The relaunch has been a huge success, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
but there's one last piece of the jigsaw. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
-"Discover the most comfortable chair in Yorkshire at Kettley's." -You're right. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
-Happy? -Very happy, yes. Really happy. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
The important thing is | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
that you make sure that you don't just sink into your bad old ways, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
that you make sure that everyone pulls together. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
The end result will be you making more money, and that's what we want to see. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
Stick together. You do good. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
-I'm going to miss you all when I go. -Ah, don't. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
Go on, keep it up, keep it up, see if you can get me going. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
This shop really felt like it was stuck in a time warp. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
It felt like a waiting room to nowhere very nice. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
I think it has been given an enormous new lease of life, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
and that is very visible in the family too. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
-Here's to the future. -The future. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
It's been 12 months since Kettley's relaunched their shiny new store. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
But have the family continued to embrace | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
the furniture revolution, or slip back into the dark ages? | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
The opportunity that we've been given, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
it has been an absolute blessing. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
Everything has improved in the shop's looks, the shop's turnover. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
Sales were up 25% on the previous year. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
It seems like my idea for Kettley's to target a younger clientele is starting to pay off. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
The shop definitely looks ten times better than it used to look | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
before and the layout of it is so much better, as well. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
We do change things around a lot more than we used to do, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
so that's a good start and that's what Alex wanted. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
I'm delighted to see David and Nicola are still pushing | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
forward and they've even started to develop another area of the store. | 0:41:54 | 0:42:00 | |
Even more impressive, Kettley's have commissioned a TV ad - | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
a perfect way to pull in punters from further afield. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
Welcome to Kettley's. There's so much to see. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
It was my idea to have a new advert, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
because we needed something to reflect us as we are now. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Investing in an advert is the family's boldest step yet, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
but it's a bright move. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
When I first visited Kettley's, John couldn't even tell his son | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
he wanted him working at the shop. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
But with the firm moving bravely forward, he has made a momentous decision. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:35 | |
To trust David with the biggest role in the business. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
It is comfortable, but I think we could probably do with, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
if it were in our shop, with a bit firmer seat cushion. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
David has taken over the buying now, so I just leave it in his hands | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
and obviously, he's got a younger outlook than I have | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
and hopefully, that will appeal. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
At work, I feel more at ease | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
and I feel like a free-range chicken, you know. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
I'm allowed to just do my own thing | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
and decide what I want to order and what to not have in the shop and | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
reduce, and my dad doesn't question me as much as he used to do. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
This is a Chesterfield two-seater settee, and a Chesterfield chair | 0:43:13 | 0:43:19 | |
we decided to give a go, and I think at first you weren't too keen. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:25 | |
It's just different from what we had before | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
and I thought Chesterfields had had their day, basically. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
But obviously, since we've had it in, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
we've had about four grand's worth of sales out of it. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
So it's proved me wrong, again! So, sorry, son! | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
Well done for buying the suite. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
I'm impressed with David's sales, the way he is ordering things in | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
and generally taking things in his stride, yes. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
This is such an incredible transformation. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
I never imagined John would release the reins this much. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
But then again, he hasn't completely let go. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
I'm just putting some sale tickets on some of the suites that | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
we've had in the shop floor for quite a long time. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
Just that when you pull that there, like that, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
all t'pile comes off on t'back of t'sticker! | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
So, as long as anybody is prepared to buy this suite now with | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
the big pile mark there, it's quite good. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
And there is something else I'm not pleased to see. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
The old tat seems to have crept its way back in. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
If you ever got a burglar in... because they're that heavy! You could... | 0:44:28 | 0:44:33 | |
1986, they went missing off the set of Coronation Street. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
I'm sorry, Hilda, I own up. They're there, your ducks. So, quack, quack! | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
I can't say I'm completely surprised. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
But it is truly amazing to see that the business, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
and this father-son relationship, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
is almost unrecognisable from the one I first witnessed. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
Me and me dad are definitely better off together, after Alex left. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
It has definitely pulled us, you know, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
a little bit more close together. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
I think this would suit you ideally, sir. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
Because then, you wouldn't have to go upstairs, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
you'd just get that off there and have a nice little crap. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
It holds all the fumes under there. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
It won't put you off your fish and chips. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
There you go, you learn summat every day, don't you? | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Seeing this business embrace | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
and benefit from change is hugely encouraging. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
But what is most heart-warming of all is knowing that the family | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
are finally united behind the Kettley's cause. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
There's still a long way to go, still improvements to be made, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
but the future is definitely bright for everybody, yeah. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
At Chough's Bakery in Padstow, things are beginning to look up. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
The Ead family have begun work on transforming their tired harbourside shop. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
And Elaine has finally decided who she wants in charge of Chough's. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
It is a very precious thing, a business that you create. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
But I'm not here for the sake of being here. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
I really feel as though we've just got to hang on here a little bit longer. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:21 | |
So, Elaine has now decided she isn't quite ready to retire. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
But at least it's a decision. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
At the bakery, Ryan is continuing to radically improve his breads. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
And behind the scenes, they have boosted the sales team, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
with the addition of Ryan's wife, Erica. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
Obviously, through Ryan, I know what's in the products | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
and how they're made. It just made more sense. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
Sounds like you two have very interesting pillow talk. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
-I know, it's really sad. -"There's 10% rye in this one." | 0:46:49 | 0:46:53 | |
All right, well, I'll see you at one o'clock on Monday with all the samples. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
OK, cheers, bye. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Darling, brilliant! | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
God, how... I'm so pleased! | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
-Well done, thanks. -OK, thanks. -Yeah! | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
Finally, movement. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
One phone call and Erica has got an appointment | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
to show off Ryan's new bread to the head chef of the biggest hotel in Padstow. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:21 | |
Et voila. It's that simple. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
Erica's addition to the staff has had other benefits, too, | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
freeing Greg to follow up on the frozen pasty project, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
with samples now winging their way to a national retailer. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
Inside here, ladies and gentlemen... | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
Here's our first batch. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:43 | |
That is our new frozen product, and that, I believe, is the future of the Chough Bakery. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:52 | |
The future could also hold better off-season profits. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
We've got the steak at 2.50, steak and Cornish blue at 2.75. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:03 | |
With their new breads and pasties, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
the family can attempt to clean up at winter fairs by going mobile. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
Lovely, that's £5. Much obliged, sir. I'll just get you some change. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
What we need to do, I think, is get a series of these, like this, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
and then we must put them in a calendar of events, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
so every year we know when that time of the year comes, we're going to do these markets. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:25 | |
Would you like to come and try some of our bread? Elaine's famous baps. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:30 | |
We have to reinvent ourselves. You can't stay still. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
-Thank you very much. That's £5. -Thanks very much. Don't forget your bread. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:37 | |
Today is a huge day for Chough's. It's the bakery's relaunch event | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
and they are holding the town's first ever Cornish Pasty Day. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
But first, I want to see the new-look shop for myself. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
First impressions - I'm thrilled. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
The once dreary and messy shop front has been completely transformed. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
It's stylish, harmonious and feels much more like an independent family business. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
And instead of hiding their products away, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
they're now proudly showing them off to the punters of Padstow. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
Inside, the scruffy signs and stickers are a thing of the past. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
-How's it going? -It's looking great outside. Are you pleased with it? | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
-It's looking really, really smart. -It really stands out now. -Yeah. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
And it just looks very professional and very slick. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
And I think that, you know, now our confectionary range is just so much better. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:40 | |
Oh, good, darling. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:41 | |
Um, you know, she really is... she is a creative chef, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
and at last she's out of that pasty kitchen. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
-Oh, it's nice, it's a compliment. -You know, it's really coming on. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
That's nice. I'm really pleased. Well, I think that this looks... | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
I mean, there's a big change from when I first walked in here. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
I know that there's a long way to go, but I feel very positive | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
and I just hope that today works as well as it could do. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
The sun may be setting on my time with the family, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
but the townsfolk have come out in droves to support this local business. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
The family have laid on Cornish dancing, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
fancy dress and a world exclusive. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
Welcome to Cornwall's first pasty crimping competition. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:27 | |
-Go! -Come on, Lou! | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
The local community, customers old and new | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
and the press have turned out to support the Chough Bakery. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
Even the town's most famous resident, Rick Stein, who | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
also has a pasty range, has turned up to check out the competition. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
-These are... -They're good. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
Very good, very good. I'm a bit worried about them, actually. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
Ha-ha! You are nice. Thanks. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:52 | |
Now I hope they can boost sales by getting a deal to sell their pasties all over the country. | 0:50:55 | 0:51:02 | |
Thank you, darling, you've been a star. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
It's been absolutely superb to have met you. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
I think a good healthy debate is good, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
-as long as you actually solve something at the end of it. -Yes. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
-All I can say is thank you, Alex. -So we're parting friends. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
-Thank you. Absolutely. -Good. -Absolutely. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
-I'm glad. It's been a pleasure. -It's been a pleasure for us. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
What can I say? | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
This has not been the easiest job I've ever done. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
They're quite a difficult family and it was quite a big challenge. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
However, I do feel that they've set off well down the path I laid down for them. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
They've definitely got a lot of potential. The future's in their hands. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
# Hooray and up she rises Early in the morning. # | 0:51:37 | 0:51:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
Since Alex visited us, the changes have been absolutely extraordinary. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:12 | |
We are working now on a lot of the projects that Alex suggested to us. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
With their revitalised bread range now taking pride of place, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
the Chough's harbourside shop has gone from strength to strength. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
The sourdough is just cracking, and the focaccia, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
we just can't sell enough of it, you know, it's so popular. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
And I think our bread sales are hugely up this summer, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
so it's fabulous. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
But it's not just the bread that's flying out of the door. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
Chough's award-winning pasties have also attracted increased orders | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
and some new local wholesale clients. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
That's the second load that's going out today. And today is a quiet day! | 0:52:49 | 0:52:54 | |
So, has all this extra work turned into profit? | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
You can see in early February after Alex finished with us, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
there was this massive leap. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
We were consistently more busy than the previous years. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
The figures are impressive, especially when you remember | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
they were running at a 16% loss at the same time last year. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
But the tiny pasty kitchen at the shop is struggling to cope with the increase. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
This summer has been manically busy. And we've been sort of without pasties | 0:53:18 | 0:53:23 | |
early in the mornings in the shop, selling out pretty early as well, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
so we're finding it difficult to keep up with demand. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
Last year, Louisa developed a frozen pasty recipe. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
But with no room for large-scale production, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
the product's progress has all but stopped. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
Now with demand outstripping supply, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
Elaine wants her children to prove themselves with this pasty project. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
So she's putting the siblings firmly in charge of a potential | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
£100,000 upgrade to their offsite facilities. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
These kids have got a chance in a million, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
they have got so much training and help available for them, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
and I want them to realise that it is no easy task, taking a business like | 0:54:01 | 0:54:06 | |
this on when they are in charge, and are they ready for that commitment? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
Converting the bakery into a pasty production line is a huge | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
financial gamble, and if Chough's don't secure large-scale sales, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
then the investment could bankrupt the business. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
I do worry, you know, that however much money is in the bank, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
that's got to make us survive the winter first, there's no point | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
spending it and then hoping to God that we've got a market there. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
Louisa and Greg have the risk and responsibility for expansion resting squarely on their shoulders. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:42 | |
So they've taken the wise decision to find out | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
if their product is actually appealing to | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
an international distributor, before jumping in with both feet. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
-Today is really important, isn't it? -It is, yeah. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
You know, it's our biggest chance of getting this frozen pasty | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
sort of sold out of the county to a massive wholesaler. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:05 | |
If they were to say no today, we've got to go out there | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
and find other clients, you know, we are putting all our eggs in | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
one basket, taking a big risk here, it's a gamble. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
We could end up potentially at the end of this year with | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
a fantastic, brand-new pasty production unit, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
with no customers apart from our local wholesale customers. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
Today's crunch meeting is with Kevin Denier, head buyer for | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
Fairway Foods, representing 20 wholesale companies across the UK and Europe. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:33 | |
If they impress him, it will open up | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
hundreds of thousands of new customers for the family. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
This is the plan, yeah. The blast freezer located here | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
and an oven here. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:45 | |
Then we've got the whole rest of this area for production - | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
tables, pasty-making machines, etc. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
My gut feel is... | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
obviously, I can't see the full layout, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
but from a national perspective, I don't... | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
-I think it's a little small. -Yeah. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
I think you will outgrow this very, very quickly on the national arena. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
My next question would be, when you do outgrow this, where can you go from here? | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
-Next door. -Next door. We're taking it all on! | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
It's available and we are negotiating the lease on that, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
to run concurrently with the lease on these, which is a nine-year lease. So, long-term. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
Greg's quick response is impressive and the fact they have already | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
negotiated the lease next door shows Kevin just how serious they are. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:31 | |
From our perspective, if the product... | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
We look at the product, we look at the quality | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
and if we think it's good enough, we will send that message out. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
The siblings' passion for this project is clearly paying off. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
But convincing Kevin of the bakery's potential is only half the battle. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
The pasty now needs to pass the all-important taste test. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
That's great. You can see visible chunks of meat, you know, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
you can see the fibres of the meat. I think it's great. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
He likes the taste. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:07 | |
But does Kevin see a future for Chough's frozen pasty? | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
I think, if we can develop together and grow, we are all businesses | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
at the end of the day and we can make some money for each other. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
-A mutual business relationship. -That would be wonderful! -Fantastic. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
Fabulous. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
It's time to break the good news to a tense Elaine and Rob. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
Kevin did say he is willing to lend us | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
their expertise from that company and to help us develop, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
because he can see an amazing product and people with passion | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
are making it, that really want to make the product go out there. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
In a six-week period, you've done really, really well, I'm very proud of you. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
At last, Greg and Louisa have proved to Elaine that the future of | 0:57:52 | 0:57:57 | |
her cherished Chough's rests firmly in safe hands. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
I think the best thing I've noticed is they are actually working | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
together, they've grown up, taking these decisions. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
I think it's given Robert and myself the confidence to say, "Right. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
"30-odd years is long enough, let somebody else take the reins now." | 0:58:11 | 0:58:16 | |
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