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Today, our heir hunters uncover long-forgotten tales | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
of families reshaped by conflict. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
From there, you might be able to find a death...on mortality. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
The first case has its roots planted firmly in London's East End... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
It looks, at the moment, like that stem is dead. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
..and a second unearths family members who were heroes of war. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
I feel very proud of my father, because... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
..he went through such a lot to give us what we've got today. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
It's a tough life on the front-line for the heir hunters. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Today, heir hunters at London-based probate genealogist firm | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Fraser & Fraser are working on a case advertised | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
on the government legal department's unclaimed estates list. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
When someone dies with no obvious next of kin, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
and without leaving a will, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
the search begins for beneficiaries to inherit their estate. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
So, you end up with more than one. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
We might be lucky. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Anne Harris was born on 10th August, 1916, in East London, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
and she died on 26th March, 2013, in Tooting, aged 97. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:22 | |
Anne spent most of her life in the East End, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
so travelling researcher Ewart Lindsay has been sent | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
by the team to her last known address in Stepney, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
to see if he can find neighbours who knew her | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
and who can provide clues to her life. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
First of all, I will speak to immediate neighbours... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
to...to where Mrs Harris lived. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
Then I'll extend it out to neighbours, you know, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
beyond where she used to live. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
He's not giving up. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
After 25 years on the road, he knows that patience is a virtue. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
How long have you been living here? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Finally, Ewart's found a neighbour who remembers Anne's family. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
She's just provided him with a vital piece of information. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
Anne had a brother, Jack, who lived with her in this block of flats. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Take care. All the best. Thank you. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
To us, it's a massive help. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
I mean, she's given us a brother, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
the name of the brother, you know... | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
And he obviously lived here as well, so it's... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
..it's good information to us. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
On the whole, it's been a good day, you know. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
I think we're nearer to finding family now... | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
..which is the main objective. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
In the office, case manager Gareth Langford has been hard at work | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
trying to crack Anne Harris' case. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
So, when the government legal department released | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
the information, they gave us some basic details. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Anne Harris passed away in 2013. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
We know that she'd been married, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
and we know that her maiden name was Myers, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
but we're obviously still dealing with a Harris surname. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
The first task is to locate Anne Harris's marriage certificate, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
so the team can begin to build her family tree. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
We know that she was married to Norman David Harris, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
but we're not too interested in him. We're really interested in Annie. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
And she's known as Annie Myerovitch and she's 32 years old, a spinster. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
She's living in... in the Poplar area, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
and she's the daughter of Lewis Myerovitch, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
who's a lost property dealer. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
So, there's quite a lot of information there. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
We've got an address that will be very useful to us, but, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
most importantly, we've got some new names. The next step, really, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
was locating that all-important birth certificate. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
What made this search tricky was the fact that | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
her name is Anne Myers, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
but, erm...Myers is obviously anglicised, so Myerovitch, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
so the family may switch between Myerovitch and Myers, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
so that makes the search that much harder. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
So, finding her birth is a lot harder, because you need to do | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
several searches rather than just one straight search. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
So, I found her birth. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
She was actually born in the September quarter of 1916 | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
in Mile End. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
And on the birth certificate, Anne was registered as Annie. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
We have a great deal of difficulty when families change their name | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
in identifying not only their original surname, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
but often the first names as well, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
because they often will anglicise the first name. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
This is especially the case with Jewish families who, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
during the wars, often changed their name | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
so the names appeared more...British, I'd say. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
So, with Anne's name confirmed, and her birth certificate found, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
the next step is to locate her parents' marriage, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and from this, the family tree can grow. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Once found, it showed that Anne's father had also | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
anglicised his first name on her marriage certificate. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
They married in Mile End in December quarter of 1915. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Her father was Lazarus Myerovitch, and her mother was Kate Maginsky. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:22 | |
Armed with both Anne's parents' names, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
the next step is to find brothers and sisters for her. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
And after Ewart's initial detective work, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
the team verify that she did have at least one brother - Jack Myers. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
He was born in 1923, and we couldn't find any other records for him. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
We couldn't find a marriage record, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
but what we did locate was his death record. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
He passed away on 13th February, 2009. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Again, living in Tower Hamlets, so he hadn't gone far. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Doesn't look like the family have moved anywhere, really. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
Jack Myers was an East Ender through and through. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
And, as the team delve deeper into his past, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
they discover that, as a young Jewish lad, aged just 13, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
he had become embroiled in a clash with antifascist demonstrators | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
on his home turf, spurred on by the terror Jews were facing in Europe. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
It was the mid-1930s. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
There was high unemployment, and poverty, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
and people were turning to extreme political parties. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
In Italy, in Germany, fascists had taken power. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
In Spain, there was a bloody civil war going on with fascists | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
struggling to take power there. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
And, in Britain, the British Union of Fascists, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
a new fascist political party, was set up by Sir Oswald Mosley. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Mosley was a British politician, and a close ally of fascist Italy. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
Aged 22, he became the youngest MP in the House of Commons. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
He formed the British Union of Fascists in 1932, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
and wasn't a fan of multicultural Britain. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
There were immigrants in the East End from all over Europe, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
from Germany, from Italy, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:02 | |
and there was a big population of immigrant Jews in the East End, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
and these were the scapegoat for the British Union of Fascists. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
They blamed the Jews for the economic problems that were | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
hitting the East End so very hard. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
The final straw was in October 1936, when the British Union of Fascists | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
planned a march through the streets of the East End. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
It was a deliberately intimidatory act. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
It was October 4th and 100,000 counterdemonstrators came | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
to the streets of the East End to protest against the fascist march. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
There, they blocked Cable Street in an attempt | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
to bring the march to a halt. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
There were 10,000 policemen on duty that day to try to force a way | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
through for the fascists to march because they had a right to march - | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
that was their legal right. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
But Jack Myers and his fellow protesters | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
were successful in their mission. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
Eventually, the police realised that the popular feeling in East End | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
was against this march, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
and they re-routed it, and the march fizzled away. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
But the march left around 175 casualties in its wake, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
and the unruly events of that day have since been dubbed | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
the Battle of Cable Street. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
It was a historic day for the East End, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
because it was the first time that people came together | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
from all different communities, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
young and old, Protestant and Catholic, Jew and non-Jew | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
came together to defend the streets of the East End | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
as a place where people must live and could live together. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Back in the office, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
the hunt for Anne Harris's relatives was continuing. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
The team were looking further into Jack's life | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
to see if he had provided any heirs. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
From the information on his record, we know that he was a market trader. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
And... | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
..that it didn't look like, from the death record, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
that he had any family, or certainly no children. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
So the trail for Anne's heirs had reached a dead end, with both | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Anne her brother Jack passing away with no immediate next of kin. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
But it wasn't long before a new clue came to light | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
that would bring Anne Harris's case back to life. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
It came to light that the executor of Jack Myers' estate, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
when he died in 2009, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
was a Neil Myers. Sharing the family name, who was he? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
The obvious thing for us to do was locate Neil and speak to him, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
try and find out how was he connected to the deceased. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Unfortunately for us, he was living in the United States, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
and we couldn't actually track him down, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
but what we were able to do was find a birth record for him. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
And from that birth record, we noted that he had brothers and sisters. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
And, from that record, we could start working backwards | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
and tie in his family to our deceased. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Neil Myers' birth records revealed that his father | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
was one Barnett Lionel Myers, also known as Myerovitch. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
With these two surnames listed, the heir hunters surmised that | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Barnett must have had a connection to Anne. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Next, the team had to locate his birth record. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
The reason we had trouble trying to locate the birth record | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
of Barnett was it comes back down to variants of the names. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Not only were we dealing with a variant of the surname, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
but also the maiden name. In fact, quite dramatic variants. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
So, on the normal search, he wouldn't come up. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
But now we had his Christian name, Barnett, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
we could look at all of the variants and really do a detailed search. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
And, eventually, we found his birth record in Whitechapel in 1919. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
And with Barnett's birth record in hand, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
the team managed to trace his parents. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
They discovered they were none other than Lazarus Myerovitch | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
and Kate Maginsky. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Barnett was Anne Harris' brother. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
It was already known that Barnett had one son, Neil, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
so the search had finally borne fruit, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
and an heir of Anne's had been found. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
At 23 years of age, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:55 | |
while his family were suffering in the Blitz in London, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Barnett Myerovitch was a sergeant in the RAF, stationed in Cairo. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
There, he met a Jewish Egyptian girl called Miriam Moreno, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
and, in 1945, they were married in Cairo. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
With this vital piece of information, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
the team could find out if Barnett and Miriam had had any more children | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
in addition to Neil, who would also be heirs of Anne's. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
We established that there were four children | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
from the marriage of Barnett. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:28 | |
Neil, who was the one bit of the jigsaw that cracked the case. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
Anne's niece Zoe remembers her aunt very clearly. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
Anne was the elder sister of my father. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
We always called her Auntie Anne. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
She was a very diminutive woman, like her mother. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
I think maybe not more than 4'9", 4'10" maximum. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
My mum said she was quite a stunning woman in her day, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
because she was blonde, and had deep blue eyes, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
and, in a Jewish community, my mum said she could have had her pick. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
Although she was tiny and very fragile, she was extremely tough | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
and tenacious at the same time. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Growing up in a troubled part of London, residents had to be | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
thick-skinned and, as a family, the Myerovitchs stuck together. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Zoe remembers tales of Chalky's, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Anne's father, her grandfather's shop. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Back in the day, it was very well-known locally. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
It was a sweet and tobacconist's. I don't think it sold newspapers. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
People used to queue around the block for Chalky's Penny Wafers. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
And then, I think, my father went off to war, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
and the shop got bombed out. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Zoe's father, Barnett, died in 2006. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
Sadly, his death signalled the end of her relationship | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
with her Auntie Anne. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
After I lost my father and my mother, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
I tried to...stay in touch with her, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
and offered to make some sort of regular visits | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
to ensure some of her wellbeing, and... | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
she wasn't really open to that suggestion. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
So, unfortunately, as a result of that, we lost touch. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
What started off as a wild goose chase had now come full circle, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
and four nieces and nephews had been found to inherit | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Anne Harris' estate, thought to be over £5,000. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
Quite satisfying, really, that we got to the heirs eventually. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Today, Zoe is glad to be reunited with memories | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
of her long-lost aunt, and of days gone by. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
It is a bittersweet thing, because sometimes I would see | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
glimpses of someone that I was really fond of. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I don't have a large family. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
I was quite keen on the idea and the notion of aunts and uncles, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
and I used to quite like the way she sort of mothered me. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
For some of my childhood, she did figure quite highly. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
It's the case of retired factory worker Leslie Palmer that the team | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
from Finders in London are working on today, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
after it came to them via a private referral. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Hopefully the same area, so if he was born in Hertfordshire... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Leslie sadly passed away in a care home in Hatfield in Hertfordshire, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
aged 85 in 2009. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Ryan and the team have limited information to kick off their search | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
for potential heirs. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:27 | |
In the instruction, we received his date of birth, date of death, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
and his last known address. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Yes, that was a long shot anyway. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
We thought he owned his property, and we were working | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
on the assumption that the estate was worth over £100,000. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
But since Leslie died over six years ago, it would mean Ryan | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and his colleagues would have to work a little bit harder | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
to unearth more clues. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
When Leslie Palmer's birth certificate came through, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
we were able to see that his father was Enoch Palmer | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and that his mother was Julie Palmer, formerly Robinson. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
First, they had to find a record of his parents' marriage. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
There's an Enoch Palmer marrying a Julie Robinson | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
in the September quarter of 1912 in West Ham. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
Given that Leslie's parents were married in 1912, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
and he was born in 1923, we would anticipate there may have been | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
some children born within that timeframe. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
But, given the First World War, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
there may have been a gap prior to Leslie being born. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
There maybe wouldn't have been as many children to that marriage | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
as there would have been at any other time. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
World War I disrupted families, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
as fathers were enlisted to fight for their country - | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
exactly what happened to Leslie's father | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
nine years before he was born. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
At the war's root was Britain and the Allied forces | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
going head-to-head with Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Enoch Palmer enlisted in the army and, after only four months | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
on the front line, he was taken captive by the Germans. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
He was held in an allied prisoner of war camp | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
called Giessen near Frankfurt. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
He was captured on 12th February, 1916, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
when the enemy mounted a large trench raid | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
against the position that his unit was holding north of Ypres. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
He was one of 39 men captured on that day. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
They were the lucky ones. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
A number of their comrades perished. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Prisoners of war were not uncommon in these times, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and, although the men were glad to be alive, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
life in captivity was tough. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
The conditions in the prisoner of war camps | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
generally were fairly harsh. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Little food, little comfort, men were living in unheated huts, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
and that sort of thing. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Luckily for Enoch Palmer, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
his time as a prisoner of war wasn't as bad as it could have been. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
The accounts of Giessen show that it's one of the better camps of all. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
Very large. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
Huts were built to accommodate the men, thousands of men. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
But, over the years, other facilities were added which | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
at least gave some social life to prison camp day-to-day existence. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
Even so, as the war continued, conditions deteriorated. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
Germany itself also began to struggle economically | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
as the war went by, with increasing shortages of food in particular, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
and, naturally, this feeds down to the prison camps. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
If the population around is not eating, then you can bet | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
the prisoners of war are going to feel the sharp end of that shortage. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
Not knowing how Leslie's father was, the worry for his mother Julia | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
and the rest of the family was unimaginable. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
Enoch would have been able to communicate with his family | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
only very infrequently. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
There was a possibility of sending letters home, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
but he knew full well that there was a censorship regime going on, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
and what he was allowed to say was going to be very limited. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
Some men managed to escape, but for those who didn't, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
their liberation came with the end of the war, on November 11th, 1918. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
In many, many of the cities, towns and villages of the country, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
civic receptions were held to welcome them home. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
Little parties, street parties, things going off in town halls | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
and the like, to welcome the prisoners of war back. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Enoch's nearest and dearest were thrilled to have him home, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
and he slipped back into family life. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
Although a picture was coming alive of Leslie Palmer's father, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
it didn't help the heir hunters | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
in their quest to find his living relatives. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
First of all, we would look for other births between a Palmer | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
and a Robinson in the London area. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
We can see that Enoch and Julia had three more children. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
First of all, they had Violet Isabel, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
born on 30th September, 1914. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
Once we had Violet's birth certificate, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
we could then do a marriage search for her, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
but also, given that we had her full date of birth, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
it could mean we could jump another step and go directly to | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
identifying a potential death cert for her. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
We can see that there is a Violet I Palmer born in 1914, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
who died in 1964. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
This would mean that she died as a spinster at the age of 50. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
With confirmation that Violet had passed away with no children, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
the search moved onto her younger sister, Gladys. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
We can see there is a Gladys Palmer, who passed away in 1976 in Newham. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
Gladys also passed away as a spinster at the age of 60 years old. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
So, with two sisters providing no nieces or nephews for Leslie, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
the family tree might need to be broadened to take in | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
maternal and paternal cousins. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
But before they were forced to turn their search to aunts and uncles, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
there was one more name that came to light - | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
an older brother of Leslie's. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
If we were going to find any close kin who'd be entitled | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
to inherit from the estate, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
all our hopes really rested on the line of Ronald Enoch Palmer. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
A Ronald E Palmer's birth record was found on the birth index, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
and his birth certificate was ordered. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
This was how the team would confirm | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
if they had found the right Ronald E Palmer. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
He was born on 4th September, 1919. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Again, confirming his parents' names as Enoch and Julia. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:28 | |
It gives us Enoch's occupation as a boot repairer. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
From having Ronald's birth certificate, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
we then had a look to see if we could find any marriages for him. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Given his age and his father's military background, we had to | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
bear in mind that he may also have been involved in active service. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
Now, the good thing was, when we found his marriage entry in 1945, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
we could see that, luckily, he survived the war. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
He came back and married Hazel, who was about six years his junior. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
We could then hope they may have had children. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
If they had, they would be Leslie's nieces or nephews, and his heirs. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Luckily, we found out that himself and his wife had one son | 0:21:02 | 0:21:08 | |
called Brian in 1946, and another called David in 1949. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
With the existence of Leslie's nephews confirmed, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
it didn't take long to track them down to Essex. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
My uncle Leslie was | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
a part of my life in the early part of my life. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
We had some holidays together, we had some nice times together. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Unfortunately, we drifted apart and had become estranged, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
so it was quite a shock out of the blue | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
when the heir hunters actually phoned me. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
When I was younger, I can remember him being caring | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
and wanting to talk to you, and everything. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
I can remember him being slim. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Always in a suit and a tie. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
I suppose it was quite upsetting, really, that we found out | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
that our Uncle Leslie had passed away. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
It would have been nice to have talked to him, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
and for my family to have met him, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
to have known that he was part of our family as my uncle. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
After much hard work, the heir hunters were glad | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
they'd finally succeeded in finding Leslie's next of kin. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Unfortunately, though, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
the earlier estimate of his estate turned out to be wrong. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Leslie didn't own his property, as they had believed. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
It was a few thousand pounds, but, obviously, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
this is still a welcome sum of money for anybody to receive. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
There was just two heirs. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
In terms of our involvement, it was still a successful case for us. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
The biggest reward that I feel is actually making | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
some sort of contact and put some extra links in the chain | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
of his existence with my own father, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
and the rest of the family. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Leslie's case has made Brian and David consider | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
their own family history. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
Their father, Ronald Enoch Palmer, died in 1993, and | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
at the forefront of their thoughts is his experience of World War II. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
He volunteered to join the Army, to go and fight for his country. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
He served in Africa, North Africa. He dropped in Arnhem in a glider. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
He came out, fortunate to get out of Arnhem. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
And then he went to Palestine. And, from Palestine, he was demobilised. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:27 | |
I feel very proud of my father, because... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
he went through such a lot to give us what we've got today. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
With the memory books opened, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
Leslie's nephews have come to the Royal Artillery Museum in London | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
to learn more about their father's time spent fighting for his country. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
Paul Evans is the librarian here, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
and has access to Ronald Enoch Palmer's war records. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
So, what we have, originally, he enlists, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
and he goes to the 50th Anti-tank Training Regiment, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
so he was going to be an anti-tank gunner. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
So that's his first fighting unit, OK? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
But that's in the United Kingdom. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
He was at Dover, Dover Castle, for a while. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
-Would that be the time he was at Dover Castle? -Yep. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
That would fit very nicely indeed. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
I think that's where he got a Defence Medal for that. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
There's the 39-45 Star, he gets the Italy Star, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
he gets the War Medal, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
the France and Germany Medal and the Defence Medal. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
So, we know, at some point, he's in Italy. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
We know, at some point, he's in France and Germany. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
And we also know he also does three years | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
defending the United Kingdom, so we know that. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
He then passes a trade test, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
-and is qualified for the appointment as an equipment repairman. -Yeah. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
OK, so that's his job. He's now repairing all the equipment | 0:24:40 | 0:24:46 | |
so that anti-tank regiment and battery are using. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
That's everything, from compasses up to guns. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
From 1943 to 1945, he's with the 1st Airlanding Light, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
and they are part of the airborne forces. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Now, air landing goes with the airborne forces, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
so by glider and by parachute. What else did he tell you? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
He didn't actually tell us what his progress in his career | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
through the Army at all. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
-Right. -He just came out with snippets. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
It's the development of the airborne forces, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
he's been involved in it from day one. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
But although Ronald Palmer was a member of the airborne forces, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
his wartime experience was not spent in the air, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
like David and Brian believed. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
We know he's an equipment repairman. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
He's not in the glider. He's not the assault troops, OK? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
He's going by ship later. He's the support staff. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
On 17th September, 1944, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Allied troops joined forces in the Battle of Arnhem. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
The largest airborne and glider operation in history | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
saw 5,000 aircraft descend on the Dutch city. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
Their aim was to advance into Germany and end the war. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
The combined air and land mission | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
was known as Operation Market Garden. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Ronald Palmer was part of the operation, and arrived by road | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
after the landings had taken place. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
So when we thought he landed in the gliders, he didn't. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
-He was trying to provide them with equipment. -That's it. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
He'd got Germans to the left and right of him, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
and everybody's shooting at him. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
-So where he thought he was, he wasn't. -He wasn't. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Unfortunately, Operation Market Garden was not a success. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:29 | |
The Allied forces failed, and couldn't advance further. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
On the ground, Ronald and his fellow soldiers had arrived late, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
and were greeted with casualties of war. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
He's with the tanks trying to get there. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
-Trying to get through to the... -He's the rescue party at the other end. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
They didn't get there. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
They're the party that didn't get to Arnhem, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
but when they got there, he got there in time to get the survivors, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
so he did a vital role rescuing the survivors. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
They reckon that, if they'd have took Arnhem, that would have | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
-shortened the war, and it would have saved a lot of lives. -Absolutely. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
The mental pressure would be immense on him. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
It must have been really tough, really. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
-He has not had a good war. -No, he hasn't. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
What he's seen in those...five or six years... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
..must've been terrible. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
After the failed mission in Arnhem, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
the brothers know their father was posted to many more countries with | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
the 1st Airborne Regiment before the war ended and he was sent home. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
He found it hard to talk about. He wouldn't talk to us about it. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
Yep, absolutely. He doesn't want to remember it. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Thanks very much for going through the history. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
-No problem, my pleasure. -Yes, thank you, Paul. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Puts it all together. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Not only had the sad event of Leslie Palmer's passing reconnected him | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
with his estranged nephews, but they'd also been given | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
the gift of adding to their own family history. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
It's all about memories, things that can... | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
we can look at, and see our uncle and our dad together. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
That'll be better for us to see | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
rather than what any money could give us, really. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 |