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Gillian Carter lived a quiet life in rural Wales. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
And her case is proving a difficult one for the heir hunters. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
The maternal family is looking quite tricky. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
It's a long shot, I think. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Just check. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
And a second case begins with a tragic accident. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
It was quite a shock. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
I don't actually dwell on it because what had happened to him, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
it was pretty serious stuff. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
It was something that none of us had really thought would happen. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
It's all in a day's work for the heir hunters. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
In the London offices of heir hunting firm Finders, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
case manager Amy Moyes and the team | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
are starting work on a new case just in. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
I am working on today's BB ad. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
It's one of the ads from today's list. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
It's the estate of the late Gillian Margaret Carter. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
We are just looking for information about relatives and family. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
Gillian died unexpectedly of a heart attack aged 72 | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
on the 7th of December 2014 | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
in the small Welsh village of Llanddewi-Brefi. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
She called Wales home for 15 years | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
after moving from her hometown in Warwickshire. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Here, the residents of the village are proud | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
of their rural way of life. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
It's a very different pace of life to city life. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
It is slower. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
It's friendlier. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Living in a village, people need connections with other people | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
because otherwise life can be isolated. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
I think we have still got quite a good community spirit. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Although Gillian had friends in the village, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
nobody knew of her family. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
It is the heir hunters' role to find any living relatives. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
I have been taking a look at close family. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
She was probably married, but may well be divorced, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
and we can see that she appears to have bought property on her own | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
rather than with a partner or husband. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
Gillian owned her property in Wales when she died. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
This will make up part of the estate | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
that Amy is hoping to pass on to her family. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Gillian Carter was in fact married and later divorced. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
She had no children. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
With limited information, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
it's difficult to paint a clear picture of the past. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
So my next steps were then to look for any close kin. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
So I did a quick birth search and found a birth record for Gillian. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
It looks as though she is probably an only child | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
so I have moved on to maternal and paternal family trees. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
One thing that has struck Amy as unusual | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
is that both of Gillian's parents appear to have died on the same day. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Amy's ordered more certificates to help complete the picture | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
of the maternal side of the family tree. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
Everything in our work, in our line of investigation, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
depends on these certificates that we find | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
when we are researching a case. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
We can only go so far with the information | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
that is available to us in the office. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
The certificates are the key bits which just keep everything | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
tied together and means we can prove people's entitlement | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
as and when we need to. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Just to check it is from the right family. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
They hold the information that we need, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
whether it be to support someone's entitlement | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
or to disprove someone's claim | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
and it's always something | 0:03:37 | 0:03:38 | |
that, um...is good for us to have as soon as possible | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
when we are researching a case. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Initially, the maternal family is looking quite tricky, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
so I'm going to leave that side for now and focus on the paternal side. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
The surname on this side is looking quite interesting. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
It's a surname of Boycott. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
So that would appear to be Gillian's maiden name. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
And from an initial look at the census returns | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
and the general birth indexes, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
there may well be four or five potential stems | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
for me to get on and have a look at, with a strong possibility then | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
of having quite a few heirs to get in touch with. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Searching for people called "Boycott" in the area, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Amy has found someone she hopes could be a first cousin - | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Gillian's aunt Kathleen's son, David. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
If she can speak to him, he could hold the key | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
to vital information to complete the paternal family tree. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Hello. This is a message for Mr David P Ratcliffe. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
My name is Amy Moyes. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
I am currently working on a Boycott family tree | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
that I believe you might be connected to. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
While she waits for David Ratcliffe to get back to her, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Amy has traced another cousin who is unfortunately ex-directory | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
and another who has died. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
It would be ideal if I could speak to someone | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
who is of the same generation as the deceased | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and fill in the family tree pretty quickly by speaking to them. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
Amy has a team of travelling researchers on standby | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
all over Britain, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
waiting to meet potential heirs face-to-face | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
to gather more evidence. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
A lot of times, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
people don't know who the deceased is or know very little, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
why they actually knew the deceased | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
and knew the whole family background. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
But until she knows where to send them, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
she has to wait for someone to call back. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
It could be the one you found. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
If I can find her with a family, then you know she is wrong. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
She has now enlisted the help of fellow heir hunter Ryan Gregory. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
They want to reach potential heirs as quickly as possible | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
before a competing heir hunting firm has the chance to sign them up. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Ryan has been looking into another stem, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
another paternal aunt - a lady named Dina, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:55 | |
who actually appears to still be alive. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
She would be 100 or 101 years of age. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
So what we're trying to do is Ryan is trying to see | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
if she's got any children we can speak to first | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
rather than make direct contact with her and upset her | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
or cause her any distress. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
We are actually looking into the Boycott family tree today. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Do you recognise that as your mother's maiden name? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
And it looks like Ryan has finally got through to a potential heir. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
Right, OK. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
It is actually in relation to a cousin of yours | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
who has sadly passed away. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Her name was Gillian Margaret Carter. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Were you aware of her at all? Or how she fits into the family? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
No. Right, OK. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
Her parents were Richard and Margaret | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
and we believe she was an only child. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Is that correct? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
Right, OK. She was married to Leslie Carter, wasn't she? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
And they were divorced, OK. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
The person on the end of the phone seems to be confirming | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
their research so far. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
It looks like they have found the right Boycott family. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
I tell you what we would like to do | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
is ask one of our local representatives | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
to maybe come and see yourself and Dina | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
so we can take her through the paperwork. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
We can actually probably get someone over to you this afternoon | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
if you are around. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
-It's a long shot but I think.... -I did check. -Just check. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
Ryan's call has brought some interesting news. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
As it stands, we've had a chat with a few potential heirs | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
or their children. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
It's sounding as though the paternal family at least | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
were certainly aware that the deceased had passed away | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
and that they were taking steps to deal with her estate themselves. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
So it may turn out that services of companies like ours | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
might not be necessary here | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
and there could have been just a slight delay in them | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
dealing with the estate, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
which is why it has ended up with the government legal department. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
So what we're going to do is keep going with the research | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
until we have spoken to everybody involved, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
get a full picture of what the actual situation is | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
and take it from there. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
Amy's company can only help any heirs they find | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
if Gillian Carter left no will. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
And now, this is in question. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
One week later, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
there's been a development in Gillian Carter's case. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Since I last took a look at the Carter case, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
we've made a bit of progress with finding out about | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
the potential will from speaking to some more of the paternal heirs. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:31 | |
It sounds as though there certainly was a will | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
and that the Carter estate was almost certainly left to a charity, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
but for one reason or another, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
the will has been proven to be invalid, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
and that's why it's ended up on the Bona Vacantia list. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
So what all of that means | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
is that we're now back at dealing with an intestacy | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
and we're looking at the maternal and paternal trees as we were. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Since we left off, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
I've managed to speak to most of the paternal heirs now, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
and if I hadn't spoken to them, they've all had some paperwork. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
The majority of those paternal heirs have signed up with us, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
so, really, the paternal side is quite safe now, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
just one or two outstanding issues. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
And we need to then take a look | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
at the maternal family tree, the Franklins. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
We don't have as many signatures | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
on that side of the family tree as of yet. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
With the green light to continue | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
the search for heirs to Gillian Carter's estate, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
Amy's sent out travelling researcher Parmjit | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
to meet a potential heir face-to-face. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
He's heading to Gloucestershire to visit Nora Boycott, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Gillian's aunt, who goes by her middle name, Joan. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
She's the sister of the deceased's father, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
who's nearly 100 years old, I think. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
I believe she's 99 years old. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
And we're going to see her, together with her son | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
in relation to this matter. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
What I'm doing today is, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
I want to research the full family tree with her. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
I've got the details as far as we've got, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
so it's a question of really going through with them | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
to make sure we've got all the details of all the relatives | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
and go through with them... Through the family tree. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
We've got to make sure that we have actually traced everybody | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
who could be a potential beneficiary to the estate. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
The travelling researchers are on the heir-hunting front line. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
It's their findings that could unlock the clues to complete | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Gillian's paternal family tree and find her heirs. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
But there's still a lot of work to do on her mother's side. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
The maternal family is looking quite tricky. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
-What, the death...? -Yeah. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
If you could order his death notice... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
But with Amy and her team on the case, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
they're well on the way to getting the answers they need | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
to ensure Gillian Carter's estate goes to her next of kin. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
That's just a guess, because he was from West Ham. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Up and down the country, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
heir hunters are hard at work solving cases of people who have | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
passed away with no immediate family and leaving no will. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Hello? | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
Another such case is that of 68-year-old Robert Joseph Bradley, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
who spent most of his life living in the seaside town of Margate in Kent. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
A pillar of the community, bachelor Robert, known as Bob, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
ran a local pet shop, served as a beach warden | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
and was later curator of Margate Museum. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
But he was best known for his hobby, judo. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
We never quite understood Bob. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
He was a friendly guy, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
but he stayed and lived with his mother as long as I knew him. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
He was very focused on judo when he came out, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
but all the time he was down in the Margate, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
he was focused on the beach and his pet shop. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
He was a great, great fellow. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
You had to take him for what he was and by his own admission, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
he was only interested in what he wanted to achieve. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
He wouldn't consider being married or settling down | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
or compromising his outlook on life. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
With judo, he decided that he wanted to go as far as he could with it. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
He was very good at throwing people | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
who were not only his own weight, but above it. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
He was European Champion, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
he was National Champion for year after year. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Bob was very close to qualifying for part of the Olympic team | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
and had there been enough finance | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
to send both the openweight and a heavyweight, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
I think Bob would have been in the team there | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
and he would have contested for medals in the Olympics. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
But after a hugely successful sporting career, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Bob Bradley met an untimely death. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
In a shocking accident in his home on the 6th of May 2014, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
he fell through rotten floorboards. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
I heard about Bob's death. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
A mutual friend phoned me up and told me. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
But it was on the news as well. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
It was quite a shock. I don't actually dwell on it, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
because what had happened to him was pretty serious stuff. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Bob's friends shared their pain at his loss, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
but Bob had no relatives that they knew of. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Whenever we talked about family things, as you do when | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
you're going away, he just simply said, "Oh, I never see anyone." | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
And that was it. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
As Bob died with no known family, his case was referred | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
to London probate genealogists Fraser and Fraser. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
-She can do a marriage search, same as we can. -We might be lucky. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
It's their job to find any living family who could inherit his estate, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
including his house in Margate, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
which was left in a state of disrepair. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Undertaking a house search, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
we're looking for any financial details about the deceased, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
any valuables that the estate may have | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
and also to see if there's a will. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
On the Bradley estate, unfortunately, the property was... | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Well, it was simply too dangerous to conduct a full search. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
So we can only really do a basic search on that one. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
So with the confirmation that Bob Bradley had left no will, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
the hunt was on to piece together his family tree | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
and track down heirs to his estate. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
The name of Bradley's not an uncommon name to research. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
But we were hoping that there would be more of a unique name | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
in the family to make our research a little easier. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
See if he, er...he married again. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
We can kind of go straight in and look for Robert Bradley, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
born 1945, with the middle initial "J", for Joseph. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Straight away, we can kind of see how many people with that surname | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
and that combination of names there are. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
There are only two Robert Bradleys born in 1945. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
One of them was in the March quarter | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
and we can kind of disprove that immediately, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
because our deceased was born in November. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
So we've got one in the December quarter, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
which then gives us the mother's maiden name as Swift. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
So we can then follow that up, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
follow it onto finding the parents' marriage | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
and perhaps double-checking whether or not he had any siblings. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Bob Bradley's family tree was beginning to come alive. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
We found Joseph R Bradley marrying a Rose Swift | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
in December quarter 1932 in Willesden. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
We thought the "R" would be for Robert, the deceased's name, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
which later turned out to be true, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
so from that point of when that marriage occurred, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
we would then look for siblings of the deceased. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Bob did have an older brother, Michael, who sadly died in infancy. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
He had also lost both of his parents many years ago. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
So with no living immediate family, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
the team had to widen the net on their search. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
This would point them towards aunts, uncles and cousins. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Yeah, 19 on the '11 census. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
Ben's starting point was Bob's grandparents on his mother's side. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Lily James and Richard Charles Swift. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
They married in 1902 in Camberwell. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
Next, to find further details of Bob's family, the search turned | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
to the 1911 census, which revealed his grandfather's profession. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
We located the family and the father, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Richard Charles Swift's occupation, is listed as fruiterer. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
Life in London in 1911 was tough | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
and the Swift family at that time was listed as a large one. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Records show that Lily James and Richard Charles Swift | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
had six children, born between 1901 and 1914. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
With Bob's expansive family tree beginning to take shape, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
the team could begin their search for living descendants. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
There are three siblings of the deceased mother | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
that left descendants, and we had to start tracing where they were. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Lily Swift, the aunt of the deceased, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
she married a Charles Periton in 1922 in Willesden. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:13 | |
They shortly after had their first child | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
and then they emigrated to Canada. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
One of the biggest problems that we have on all estates really | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
is when we establish that there are heirs overseas. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
A lot of the records overseas, they're closed to us. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
For instance, a lot of countries don't have the birth, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
marriage and death records that we do, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
so what we have to do is look at obituaries | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
and use alternative sources. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
-In the '20s, aren't they? -Yeah. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
With part of the family scattered as far away as Canada, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
the team still hadn't found any heirs in the UK. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Bob's uncle, Charles Swift, was the key. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
He had married a Rosina Elizabeth May | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
in 1929 in Paddington, London, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
and records reveal that Charles, like his father, was a greengrocer. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
Rosina and Charles Swift had one son, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
John Richard Charles Swift, born in 1935 - | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
Bob Bradley's first cousin. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Alive and well and living in Oxfordshire, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
the team had found their first heir. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
I never knew Bob Bradley | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
because he lived in Margate, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
he never really kept in touch with the family | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
and they never kept in touch with him. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
So he was just a mystery, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
he was just a complete and utter mystery to me. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
Although John didn't have a relationship with Bob | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
when he was alive, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
family ties have left him feeling inextricably linked to him | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
and news of his death came as a dreadful shock. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Surprise, because he was a lot younger than me. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
I wish now that I'd known him, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
because he seemed like quite an interesting guy, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
one way or another. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
I might have seen him when he was a babe in arms, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
but that's all I can remember. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Bob and John may have been first cousins, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
but their life paths couldn't be more different. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
While Bob was running a pet shop, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
John Swift had begun his working life in the family business. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
I was working in a greengrocer's shop when I was ten. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
And I worked with my father... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
Then and as far as I can make out, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
my father, my grandfather | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
and most of the Swifts were all in business one way or another. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Basically, they were in the fruit and veg business, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
but...if a little deal came up for something else, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
it wouldn't be sniffed away. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Of his uncles and aunts, it was John's father's brother, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Uncle Jack, who was the most successful. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
Jack was a sort who'd have a crack at anything. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
He was a gambler. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
When I say a gambler, not necessarily with money, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
but he would take chances with things, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
you know what I mean? | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
And do anything to get a few bob. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
I know he had a friend who was a bookmaker's son or something | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
and Jack said he went to help them at the racecourse one day. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
And when he saw the money they could make making a book, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
he decided that's what he wanted to do. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
That's what Jack did and he did it well. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Jack was always very well-dressed - expensive cars, nice houses. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:23 | |
He was just so many miles away from where I lived in Kensal Green | 0:20:23 | 0:20:30 | |
in this little flat over this greengrocer's shop. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
I suppose we were all a bit in awe of him really. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
While a picture was beginning to form of Bob Bradley's family | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
on his mother's side, there was still potential heirs | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
to be found on his father's side of the family. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Every year in Britain, thousands of people | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
receive an unexpected visit from the heir hunters. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
When the heir hunters contacted me, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
it was a bit of a shock to find out that, you know, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
my family was somewhat larger than I thought it was. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
from the Treasury solicitors' Bona Vacantia list | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
that are yet to be claimed. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
The first case is Rachel Ena Ades, known as Monique. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
She was born in 1911 in Preston in Lancashire. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
When she died in 2002 in Carshalton in Surrey, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
she was 91 years of age. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Monique had a brother, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
who it's thought passed away before her | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and her birth certificate names her parents | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
as Abraham Ades and Ethel Maude Galloway. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
There are many indicators | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
that the name "Ades" may be of Jewish origin, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
coming from the Jewish communities of Spain and Portugal. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Next is Patricia Bachelor. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
She was born in 1944 | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
and died in Wandsworth, south London, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
in 1986, when she was just 41. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
She married Anthony Joseph Bachelor in 1964 | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
and her maiden name had been Britzman. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
If you think you may be related to either of these people, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
you would need to make a claim on their estate | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
via the government legal department. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Are you their next of kin? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
If so, you could have a windfall coming your way. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
In London, the heir hunters are on the search for beneficiaries | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
to the estate of the late Gillian Carter, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
who moved from Birmingham to rural Wales, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
where she sadly passed away in December 2014. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
-Probate with an address search. -Did we have any luck getting those? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
Relatives on Gillian's mother's side are proving hard to find. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
But the team has managed to track down some potential paternal heirs. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
Travelling researcher Parmjit is in Gloucestershire, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
going to visit Gillian's 99-year-old aunt Joan | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
who lives with her son, one of Gillian's first cousins. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
I was very surprised, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
because I'd spoken to Gillian on the phone | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
on the Saturday evening of 6th of December | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
and then on the Sunday, another cousin of mine rang up | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
to say that Gillian Carter had died | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and I sort of said, "That's...I'm really shocked, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
"because I've just spoken to her last night", | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and he said, "You're probably" - she lived on her own - | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
"the last person to have spoken to her." | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
And I had to sort of sit down for a few minutes, because, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
I said, well, I'd only just spoken to her the night before, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
so it was a surprise. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
-Good morning. -Good morning, John. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
-This is my mother. -Hello. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
-Joan Butler. Nora Joan Butler. -Hello, Joan. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
I've come just to discuss the family tree, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
to make sure we've got all the details that we need | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
for the relatives. OK? | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
-I've got too many! -Too many. -Too many. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
So, we'll start... That's Gillian. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
-Who's passed away. -Yes. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
-Then we've got another sister called Marion Beryl Boycott. -Yes. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
As far as... We are happy. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Otherwise, that side of the family tree is fine. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
As far as I can see, yes, it is. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Parmjit's visit to Joan and John has proved successful, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
and has provided more clues to Gillian's life. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
It's also solved the mystery | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
of the joint date of her parents' death. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Gillian's parents were going in early December... | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
They were going off to buy Christmas presents and a van driver | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
came on the wrong side of the road and just hit them head-on. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
He was badly injured, but they were both killed pretty well outright. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:49 | |
So that was a real blow for Gillian and her husband. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
Sharing such sad news, John's not only been able to paint | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
a fuller picture of Gillian's past, but the visit has also proved | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
crucial in helping to complete her paternal family tree. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
We've still got a few left that we need to go and see, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
which some of my colleagues will no doubt pick up. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
So it's been fruitful, it's been worthwhile. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
At least we've confirmed the fact we've got details | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
for all of the beneficiaries on this side now. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
In the Birmingham area, Keith, another travelling researcher, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
is on his way to visit one of Gillian Carter's cousins | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
on her mother's side. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
The heir hunters have had no luck tracking him down on the phone, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
so Keith's hoping to catch him at his home. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
This is not looking particularly hopeful. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
There doesn't appear to be any vehicles on the drive | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
and it looks a little bit locked up and secure. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
But we'll make some enquires. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
On closer inspection, it appears no-one is home. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
We're getting no response and I made some enquiries at the neighbours'. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
It doesn't look as though there's anyone living there at the moment. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
-You can see him sitting, he should be in his chair. -In the back? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
-You say he's...? -No, in the flat. He should be sitting... -Yeah. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
-You say he's deaf, is he? -Yeah. -Does he live on his own? -Yeah. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
As a result of a visit to the neighbours, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
they can confirm that our gentleman does live at this address. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Unfortunately, he's in his late eighties and he's deaf | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
and he probably is in, but will not hear us. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
He has relatives that call on a Saturday who live in Shrewsbury, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
so what I'm going to do is, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
with the permission of the neighbour, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
leave them the visiting letter | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
so that when they see the relatives at the weekend, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
they'll get the relatives to contact the office. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
So things are beginning to take shape, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
but there's still work to do. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Slowly, Gillian Carter's family tree is beginning to grow. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
The 1911 census reveals that Gillian's grandfather, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Edward Henry Franklin, was in the army | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
and had been posted abroad with Gillian's grandmother, Mary. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
They'd had nine children. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
Some, like Gillian's mother, Margaret, were born in England, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
some in Scotland, and some in Gibraltar. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
This is why their birth records were harder to trace. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Whenever a vital event takes place overseas, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
be it a birth, a marriage or a death, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
it makes our life as a researcher, um, a lot harder. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
The access to information varies from country to country, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
so there may be certain countries, like Australia, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
where their privacy laws are so strict, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
we maybe can't ever get the certificates that we need, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
but there may be other countries whereby | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
we can access the information. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
It is just going to take a lot longer than it would do | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
if it was in this country. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
Gillian Carter's grandfather, Edward Franklin, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
enlisted with the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
one of the elite regiments of the British Army, in 1884. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
The British Army, in the 19th century, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
was a refuge for those | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
who had fallen on hard times, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
were between jobs, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
who were seeking some escape from family or domestic circumstances, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:18 | |
and, at the same time, offered the opportunity to travel abroad, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
see exotic scenes and take part in fighting for the Empire. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
But it wasn't all about foreign travel. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
There was hard graft and real danger involved. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
When Edward enlisted into the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
Edward, in coming to join the regiment, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
would have experienced real, shocking acclimatisation. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:52 | |
The heat was legendary in that part of the world. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
The...rations were very meagre. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
And the disciplinary record meant they had to be on alert | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
for long periods of time. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
This was during the Anglo-Egyptian War | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
between Egyptian and Sudanese forces. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
The British Army moved into the Sudan | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
following threats to Khartoum. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Only the capital remained in Egyptian hands, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
with about 15,000 European and Egyptian citizens. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
Britain's ex-Governor General of the Sudan, General Gordon, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
had been sent to Khartoum during the war | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
by Britain's Prime Minister, William Gladstone, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
to report on the situation. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Gordon extended his orders and decided to stay, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
he wasn't prepared to leave until all the other citizens were out, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:52 | |
and so effectively blackmailed Gladstone | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
into sending a relief force into the Sudan | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
to try to relieve the beleaguered city of Khartoum. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Gillian's grandfather, Edward Franklin, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
would most likely have been amongst the troops deployed to relieve him. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
In fact, that relief force arrived two days too late. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
The city had been... The siege had been successful, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
and the whole town had been laid waste. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
General Gordon had also been killed. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
Gordon had a great pull with the British public, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
and of course when he dies in Khartoum, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
it becomes an absolute disaster for Gladstone. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
His sobriquet was "Grand Old Man", GOM, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
and then becomes MOG, "Murderer of Gordon". | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
After this tragic event, Edward Franklin would most possibly | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
have remained with his regiment in the troubled region. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
The Camerons complete a tour of duty on the frontier until 1887. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
They return to Britain for several years, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
and then are sent to Gibraltar and Malta. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
And it is from Malta that they are called back to Egypt | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
at the end of 1897, when they take part in the reconquest of the Sudan | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
and the avenging of General Gordon. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
By this time, Edward Franklin had married Mary Morrison, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
and they had started a family together. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
Gillian Carter's mother, Margaret, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
was the youngest of their nine children | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
and was born in 1912 in Birmingham, after her father had retired. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Having solved the problems of Gillian's mother's family tree, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
and found all the birth records, in London, after a lot of hard work, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
Amy's search for beneficiaries of Gillian's estate is almost complete. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
So to tie up one of the other last remaining loose ends, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
travelling researcher Keith is on the road again. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
He's on his way to the home of another of Gillian's relatives | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
on her mother's side, her cousin, David Ratcliffe, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
who Amy left a message for earlier. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
We are now off to another suburb of Birmingham, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
we're going to see another stem of the family tree, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
and hopefully get some response at this address, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
and just hope he is going to be at home. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
Unfortunately for Finders, it turns out that Gillian's cousin, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
David, has signed up with one of their competitors. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
But Keith's still hoping he can confirm | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
that Gillian's paternal family tree is correct. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
And with regards to the deceased, Gillian, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:25 | |
did you know much about her at all? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Could you shed any light on... | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
In her childhood, which is going back a few years, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
we saw quite a bit of them. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
So her father was Richard James. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
-That's correct. -Are you happy with that? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
-Yes. -You've confirmed those details on there. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
And they're in order. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:42 | |
They may not have been in regular contact, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
but David was the first relative to hear the news that Gillian had died. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
I was shocked, really, it came out of the blue. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
It was a North Wales police van who asked me who I was | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
and was I connected. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
They said, "We've got some sad news for you." | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
And then they told me. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
And, um, it was a bit upsetting, to be honest. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
We saw Mr Ratcliffe at the last address, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
so we got some more information with regard to the deceased there, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
and hopefully that can enlighten the story for the office. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
Back at the office, there have been further developments. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
After much in-depth research on the case, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
news has arrived which changes everything. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
Since we put the claim in with the Government Legal Department, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
we've heard back from them, and unfortunately, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
they have written to say that a subsequent will has come forward. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
This one does appear to be valid. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
A situation like this is obviously very disappointing for us, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
we've spent a lot of time and effort and also, um...money, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
in doing the research, contacting heirs that are | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
probably not now entitled, but we work on all sorts | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
of different types of cases, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
and this does happen from time to time. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
For the cousins, however, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
it's not the money that was important, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
but their fond memories of Gillian. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
I got on quite well with her, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:09 | |
she was quite a pleasant person, you know? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
In London, heir hunting firm Fraser and Fraser are looking after | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
the case of Robert Joseph Bradley, known as Bob, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
who died in a tragic accident in his home | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
after a full and varied life as a judo champion | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
and an expert on his hometown of Margate. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
With Bob leaving no will, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
case manager Ben Cornish is on the hunt for heirs to his estate. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
-OK, I'll give her a call in a sec. -So, she might... | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-Do you want me to do that now? -Yeah, er, home stuff. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
After researching the children | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
of his mother's five brothers and sisters, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
he's managed to track down a living relative of Bob's | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
in England, his first cousin John Swift. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
John lifted the lid on his Uncle Jack, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
who turned out to be something of a celebrity | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
when he opened one of the country's first betting shops | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
in London's Mayfair when they became legal in 1961. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
Swift would've identified somewhere like Piccadilly | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
as being a central area | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
amongst a lot of working class, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
because the working class worked in these areas, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
they didn't live in these areas, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
and he would've identified that as a good central area | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
to have a shop to attract business. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
Jack Swift's empire flourished | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
until he had about 20 bookies around London. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
But as his star was rising and the money rolled in, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
he never forgot his family. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Jack was very good to me. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
He gave me a lot of work when I was a cab driver doing different things, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
running him about, you know, all over the place. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
When my dad died, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
I had three kids and I was struggling a bit, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
you know, mortgage and all that, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
and he was talking to me and he said, "Are you managing?" | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
And he gave me 50 quid. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:58 | |
And that 50 quid, in those days, got me out of trouble. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:04 | |
I never, ever forgot it. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
Jack had one son himself, Brian Charles Swift. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
We found a marriage to a Loretta Breasley. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
They have a total of three children. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
Loretta Breasley was the daughter | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
of legendary Australian jockey Scobie Breasley. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
The union of bookie's son and the daughter of racing royalty | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
raised more than a few eyebrows. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
Jack Swift, his son's profession as a jockey | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
and the marriages that his family made, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
which actually elevated him into a racing set, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
which was much more middle-class than working-class. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
With his business booming, Jack's friend William Hill, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
who had not been so bold as to take his bookmaking business | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
out on to the high street, made an offer to buy Jack's shops. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
It was an offer that Jack couldn't refuse. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Swift was the pioneer and took the risk. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
He felt that the bookmaking industry, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
licensed bookmaking was going to be successful, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
and it took a long time for William Hill | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
to make the decision that he was going to go the same way. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
By 1966, his 20 shops and his business | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
was sold to William Hill in its entirety for £850,000, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
which, in today's money, equates to close to 15 million. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
But it wasn't all good news for Jack Swift and his family. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
In 1985, his only son Brian died suddenly of a heart attack | 0:37:30 | 0:37:36 | |
aged just 48, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:37 | |
leaving three children, all potential heirs, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
who at first couldn't be traced. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
One of them had quite a unique name and once we followed that up, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
we found all three children living in Australia. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
When we located the three Australian heirs, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
it took the number of heirs on the maternal side to 12. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
With all living heirs on Bob Bradley's mother's side | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
of the family now accounted for, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
it was time to turn to the paternal family tree. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
This is a bigger challenge | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
simply because there were more aunts and uncles to descend on this side. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Bob's grandfather Charles Bradley had married Bob's grandmother, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
Mary Ann Hopkins, in 1888. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
They had nine children over a 24-year period, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
including Joseph Robert Bradley. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
The eldest was Charles Bradley, born in 1889 in Fulham. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
He died in 1970 in Greystones, Ireland. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
He was married twice, he had seven children in total. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
Large families are a problem for research. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Really, from a very basic level, we've got to locate all the heirs. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
We can't just locate some and forget the rest of them, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
we've got to locate everyone, so a big family means more work. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
It was quite unusual in the fact there were 43 years between | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
when this first was born when his last was born. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
So when we had completed our research into Charles Bradley, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
the paternal uncle of the deceased, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
um...it had almost doubled the amount of heirs | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
that we already had from the maternal side of the family. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
But as Bob's paternal family tree continue to reveal itself, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
a further ten first cousins came to light. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
We were just finding heirs left right and centre. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
And these heirs were spread all over the globe. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
Let's just have a look on another system, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
just to make sure. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
Bob Bradley's heirs on his father's side of the family | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
were discovered in the UK, Ireland and Canada. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
Finalise all this... | 0:39:24 | 0:39:25 | |
We've got quite a few things coming back today anyway, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
so it should tidy up all this side, anyway. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
With Ben's team hard at work, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
an heir closer to home had been found. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Bob Bradley's uncle Harry had six children. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
His son, Peter Bradley, Bob's first cousin, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
was alive and well and living in Kent. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
He was taken by surprise when he got the call from the heir hunters. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
It was quite a shock. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
Really, it was, it was... Stunned, really, I think. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
My memories of Bob are as very small cameos. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
We used to take holidays, we had a couple of holidays in Westgate. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
On one occasion, we stayed with Aunt Rose | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
and we played in the garden. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
And then I saw him on another occasion on the seafront | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
and we played in the sand together. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
And that was really the last time. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Um, that was it, really, basically. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
And then they just disappear, you know, you go from your memory | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
and you get on with your own life. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
With so many years having passed since they last met, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
Peter was surprised to hear he was entitled to a part | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
of his late cousin's estate. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
When I heard of the circumstances of his death, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
it was tinged with a bit, quite a lot of sadness, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
because, you know, all right, you're going to inherit some money, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
but it would've been much nicer to think that I'd come across him | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
in passing and met up with him and spoke to him... | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
..that type of thing. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
With the final piece of the puzzle | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
that makes up Bob Bradley's family tree in place, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Ben and his team's job is done. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
So the case of Robert Joseph Bradley was really interesting. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
There were many heirs all around the world which we had to trace. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
We found 35 people entitled to benefit | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
and the estate at the end was worth £125,000. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
-PETER: -So, this is where it is... | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
Today, Peter and his son Matthew | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
have travelled to Bob's hometown of Margate, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
to his beloved judo club, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
to meet his friends and find out more about their long-lost cousin. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
Terry Nolan and Barry James | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
are waiting for Peter and Matt in the club. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
They're proud to show off Bob's sporting achievements | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
and share their memories of their friend. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
-Certificates, trophies. -Oh, I bet you've got a few of those. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
-Yeah... -Where is he see there? There he is. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
That was at the Ramsgate club... | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
The ethos of our sport, and he took on board so strongly, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
was that you could compete with anyone of any standard | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
and if you behaved yourself properly, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
you looked after them. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
-You see he's wearing a black belt there, don't you? -Yeah. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
Well, he got higher than that. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
-He got to 7th dan eventually. -Seven Dan... | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
When you're refereeing, you don't expect the referee | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
to be cracking jokes, but he was always... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
He got into trouble with the authorities | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
quite a number of times, cos he wouldn't stop cracking jokes. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-MATT: -It was lovely to see how loved he was... | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
-Yeah. -..and how well-liked and how many friends he had... | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
That was one of the most important things, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
discovering his humour. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
Apparently it comes from our neck of the woods, so it's marvellous, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
actually, to find all those things out, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
what Bob was like, his stature, what he achieved. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
It's opened...a lot of doors and closed a lot more. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
Not only have the heir hunters succeeded in their quest | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
to trace Bob's heirs, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
they've also given Bob's living relatives | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
the gift of a little piece of missing family history. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
It brings our family back together again, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
even though we were separated through just...life, really. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
You suddenly realise that family is important | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
and everybody should look to their family. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
It's always nice to remember them and know what they did, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
because there's a lot of missing links out there. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 |