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Today, the person the heir hunters are investigating doesn't | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
seem to exist. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
When we did our search, it turned out that there was actually | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
no other Brookstones ever in any of the records. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
And a sailor risks prison, all for the sake of love. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
That was quite unusual, and certainly for a serving personnel, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
absolutely impossible and extremely dangerous. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
The heir hunters attempt to solve a family mystery stretching | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
back 100 years. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:31 | |
All right, then. Cheers. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
We're still unsure as to why the deceased is Collinson, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
yet, his mother marries a Kerkham. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
And one relative gets the surprise of a lifetime. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
We were very excited. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
We've not really had any sort of inheritance before, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
and I was very excited for me and my family. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
When navigating the twists and turns of genealogy research, heir hunters | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
often journey through significant passages of our country's past. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
It's quite important to have a grasp of the social history of the UK. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:22 | |
You need to go with your hunches. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Those hunches are built on knowledge, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
and that's something that you pick up every time, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
but it may also be something you have acquired through an interest | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
in British and international history. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
William Ernest Brookstone was born in Essex on 22 January, 1949. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
He moved to Plymouth in his 20s where he was regarded with | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
great affection and fondness by friends and colleagues. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
He was a kind soul. You couldn't help liking him. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
Everybody at work liked him. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
He had a smile on his face for everybody. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
He was just that type of person. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
He worked locally as a machine operator | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
and was known for having a great sense of humour. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
He'd make you laugh, always tell you a joke, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
and if you that you were slightly upset | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
or you're not in a good mood, he would actually make an effort to | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
try and make it a bit better for you and try and cheer you up. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
He was fun-loving, he loved his friends. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
He had a lot of time for everybody. He was generous, kind. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
I've never known anybody to ever have a bad word to say about Bill. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Sadly, on Christmas Eve 2012, William passed away aged 63. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:36 | |
Since Bill's passing, I've lost a really good friend. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
I miss his laughs, his smiles. His company. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
I miss mostly about Bill is his sense of humour | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
and his warm personality. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
That's what I think I miss most about Billy. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
The case was passed to London heir hunting firm Finders through | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
a private individual, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
but barely anything was known about the details of William's life. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
Case manager Suzanne Rowley took up the challenge. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
When we were given the case, we knew that it was worth | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
approximately £20,000, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
but it is worthwhile looking into | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
and it is good to pass on the inheritance to the rightful heirs. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
With only a death certificate to go on, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
the team needed to find William's birth details. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
William Ernest Brookstone sounds like quite an easy name to research. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
I've never heard the surname Brookstone before. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
But the team hit a problem almost immediately. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
It's always vital to have the birth certificate when working on a case. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
The birth certificate shows us the names of the parents. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
If we don't have the parents, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
we can't do any of the research into the family tree. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
When we did our search, it turned out that there was actually | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
no other Brookstones ever in any of the records. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
I was suspicious that, possibly, he could have changed his name. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Changes in spelling of surnames, again, is very common. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Or the change of an actual surname completely to another name. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
We come across this on a very regular basis. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
It's not something you would go into a case expecting to happen, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
but you'd be surprised at how often it does happen. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Suzanne needed to hunt for more elusive records. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
We happened to have a copy of a job application form from 1977. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
It stated that his surname was Brookstone, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
so we know he was using that name at that time. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
It also mentioned that he used to be part of the Navy. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
And friends and neighbours were able to shed further light on these | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
shreds of new information. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
Hi. I was wondering if you could help me. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
We are a company in London. So we are heir hunters. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Further information gathered from neighbours, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
I was able to find out that William Brookstone was actually | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
in a same-sex relationship with a Mr Stone. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
Bill and Victor had had a relationship for many, many years. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
I think, certainly, from when Bill was very young. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
When he first came out of the services, I believe. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
And they absolutely adored each other. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
With this information, I went to look at the electoral rolls. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
I was able to pick-up them living together, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
but they were both named Brookstone. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
So, I then thought that, possibly, William could have been | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
born as a Brooks and Victor was then born as a Stone. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
Suzanne began a fresh hunt for a William Ernest Brooks. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
I found a perfect record for a William Ernest Brooks | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
born on 22 January, 1949 in Woodford. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
This matched perfectly with the death that we had which | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
stated his date of birth. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
Further investigation confirmed that this was the same William that | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
had spent some time in the Navy, as his job application had revealed. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
When Bill was in the services, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
he worked in the NAAFI, which is the canteen on board | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
the ship, so he knew everybody and everybody would certainly know him. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
I think he makes a big impression wherever he goes. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Billy did mention that he was former Navy. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
He was quite a private man. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
He didn't really share that side of his life. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
But William's sexuality would have posed a major problem in the 1970s | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
and could be the reason why he had left the Armed Forces. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
I can understand entirely why William | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
changed his name by deed poll to acknowledge | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
and recognise his partner, but that was quite unusual | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
and certainly, for a serving personnel, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
absolutely impossible and extremely dangerous. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
Homosexuality was a serious offence under military law. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Gay sailors like William in the Royal Navy would be | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
living in constant fear of exposure | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
and a knock on the door by the military police. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
It was a very tense, scary atmosphere. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
They loved their job, they were committed to the Royal Navy, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
yet, under naval law, they were criminals. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
They were liable to arrest, imprisonment | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
and dishonourable discharge. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
During the 1970s, anywhere between 80 to 300 military personnel were | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
discharged dishonourably because of homosexuality. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
After a sailor was dishonourably discharged from the Navy, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
they would often find it very difficult to get a new job. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
That dishonourable discharge would hang over their heads | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
and many employers would be reluctant to employ them. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
It took European legislation to force the ban on gay people | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
joining the Armed Forces to be lifted. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
It was not until the year 2000 that lesbian, gay | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
and bisexual personnel were allowed to serve openly in the Armed Forces. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
In 1999, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that banning | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
people from military service because of their sexual orientation | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
was unlawful, unjust discrimination, and that's what | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
compelled the British government to finally change the law a year later. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
And today it's a very different story. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Nowadays, there has been a complete sea-change. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
The Royal Navy is in many ways a model employer. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
Not only can lesbian, gay, bisexual, and now transgender, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
people serve openly, they are protected under the disciplinary | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
code against prejudice and discrimination. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
They're allowed to live in married quarters if they have a partner, | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
they join in and participate in LGBT Pride | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
parades around the country in uniform. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
So, it's a complete transformation from the terrible, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
ghastly days in which William suffered. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
But as Suzanne and her team discovered, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
this didn't stand in the way of William's relationship with Victor. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
So, at the time, there was no legal partnership | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
between same-sex couples. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
You weren't able to have a civil partnership or a marriage, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
so in this case, I think | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
they simply joined their names to show that they were together. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
Yeah, I would assume that Victor | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
was probably the love of Bill's life, really. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
But frustratingly, without a legal marriage, neither Victor nor | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
any descendants could be considered as potential heirs. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Before the civil partnership laws came into force, there was | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
a real problem for people in a same-sex relationship | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
in that there was no guaranteed right of inheritance | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
from one partner to the other. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
So with Victor ruled out as a potential heir, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
the case took an unexpected twist. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Did William himself have children? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Over the years, a daughter was mentioned. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
It would have been nice to be able to find her. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
Or find out the facts and perhaps have had her there | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
at the funeral at the end. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
This sort of put a spanner in the works as we then had to | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
check to see whether William was previously married. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
If the names were correct and William did have children and they | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
had children, this would mean that his children would then inherit. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
If they had passed away, then their children would inherit. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
So, all of the previous work that we had done would become invalid | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
and, in fact, it would be the children | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
who would benefit from the estate. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
This took the investigation in a whole new direction. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
After ordering up many marriages, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
they came in and they were all incorrect. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
But so far, the heir hunters were having no luck. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
It's Thursday at 10.30 in the morning in London. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Heir hunting firm Fraser & Fraser are looking into the estate | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
of a 71-year-old man from Cheshire. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
All right. Cheers, bye. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
So, I've got a new case just come in called David J Collinson | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
who has died in December of last year up in Warrington. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
It looks like he possibly may have owned a property | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
when he passed away. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
He used to live with his mother for a long time, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
who we believe to be his mother. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:46 | |
We can start to look. We can... | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
It depends what we're going to have on the certificates. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Can we get those certs? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
-Wellingborough? -Yeah. -I don't know. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
We might have to try cos that's what I'm thinking. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
David Collinson was born an only child on 24 March, 1943, in Runcorn. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:15 | |
With little-known facts about his life, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
neighbours were able to paint a picture of the man they knew. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
You'd see David and instantly recognise him | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
because of his big bushy beard, and that, you know. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
He was always a nice bloke. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Really clever man. Just an easy-going neighbour to get on with. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
You know, you knew you'd never have any problems with him. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
But, over the past few years, David had become a shy and private person. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:41 | |
And he never used to go out, his health wasn't great. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
You never saw any of David's family. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
David passed away without making any known will. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
Even though you didn't see a lot of him, now that he's | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
not there, you notice that he's not there. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
With so few details to go on, the team have got a huge task ahead. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
All right, then. Cheers. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
Case manager Mike Powell gets started | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
trying to form a family tree, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
but has scant information to go on. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
We had a date of birth which was 24 March, 1943. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
And the date of death, which was 24 December, 2014, in Warrington. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
The next stage is to find his address which is then | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
added to the family tree, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
and then we just compile it from there, really. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
At the moment, I'm relatively hopeful there will be | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
some money in the estate. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
It's not a particularly large property, but hopefully, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
if we manage to find someone, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
there will be some money to distribute at the end of the day. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
But they're a long way off from that stage yet. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
OK, cool. I will. All right, bye. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
All the team have to go on is that David used to live with | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
a woman called Florence Collinson, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
but she disappeared off the electoral roll in 1984 | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
and they have no other information. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Researcher Sinead Collins gets to work. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
What we've done to start off with is to look for a | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
death for a Florence Collinson. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
I have found one in Warrington. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
It's Florence Mabel Collinson and she's born on 14 August, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
1898, which we would assume that she is the deceased's mother. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
We've looked up for the deceased's birth. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
For a David J Collinson born in 1943, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
and mother's maiden name is Butcher. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
But the team struggle to find a marriage certificate | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
for David's parents, linking Butcher and Collinson. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
It could mean that either they weren't married or that she's | 0:14:43 | 0:14:50 | |
possibly been married before and married under a different name. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Fortunately, David's father has an unusual middle name, Royal, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
which may help the team identify his parents' marriage. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
What I'm going to do now is I'm going to look for just | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
a Leslie R marrying a Butcher, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
just giving ourselves a bit of a broader spectrum | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
to look for marriage. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Parents' marriage is critical piece of information, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
it's a critical step. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
It's the bit which gives us | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
the forenames of the parents. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
It's the bit which gives us a starting point to do a birth search. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
Absolutely vital we identify | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
the parents' marriage as soon as possible. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
I've got the marriage certificate in front of me | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
and what I've found is that I was correct that | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Florence Mabel Butcher married a Leslie Kerkham. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
We already know from the deceased's birth certificate | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
that it's Leslie Royal Collinson. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
On this marriage certificate, it's Leslie Royal Kerkham. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
So, it ties in quite nicely, but we are still unsure as to why | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
the deceased is Collinson, yet, his mother marries a Kerkham. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
The team now know Florence Butcher married Leslie Kerkham, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
but what was puzzling was why Leslie died a Collinson. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
So, I found a census of a Leslie Royal Kerkham. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
He's the correct age. He's 15 years old, in Wellingborough. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
He's living with a Robert Collinson and a Jane Collinson. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
And David's father's baptism record provides the team with more | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
pieces of the puzzle. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
He was born with the name Kerkham | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
to parents Arthur Kerkham and Lucy Eleanor. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
We've got a Leslie Royal Kerkham whose father is | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
Arthur Charles Kerkham and mother is Lucy Eleanor Kerkham. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:40 | |
Lucy Eleanor is listed as being deceased, which could be | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
a contributing factor as to why Leslie is living with Collinsons. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:50 | |
What the team discovered was that Leslie Kerkham was Leslie Collinson, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
having being informally adopted by the Collinson family. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
It's all starting to make sense that perhaps Leslie was born to | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
Arthur and Lucy, but Lucy's died quite young | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
and his father's been unable to care for him, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
so he's been unofficially adopted. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
So he's been given to another family to be brought up, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
which is why he's ended up with the Collinson family | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
and why he flits between the two names | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
with his marriage and his death. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
Adoptions in the early 1900s can often prove tricky for heir hunters. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
Legal adoption didn't really start until 1927, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
so anything prior to 1926, then we have a problem. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
That's when we get informal adoptions, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
we get people brought up with different families than what | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
they were actually born to, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
and if we find that on a bit of research, then it's a dead-end. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
With no blood relatives on David's father's side of the family, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
the team now have to concentrate all their attention | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
solely on the mother's side. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:02 | |
On the parents of the deceased's marriage certificate, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
it shows the grandfather of the deceased is James Butcher. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
The 1911 census proves that David's maternal grandparents were | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
Susan and James Butcher. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
When we did a census check, we managed to find a James Butcher who | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
is an agricultural labourer, and a Susan Butcher who is a lacemaker. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
They were both living in Bedfordshire. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
During the 1800s, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
lacemaking was very popular as a source of income, particularly | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
in the Midland counties of Northamptonshire and Bedfordshire. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
Ann Prigmore from Bedford made lace herself. It was a family business. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
Bedfordshire was very well-known for its lacemaking. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
Most of the families would have made lace. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Agricultural families, particularly. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
If they weren't working on the fields, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
they'd be working with the lace. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
The people that would be buying the lace | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
would probably be very wealthy people, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
would be the aristocracy. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Sometimes lace was thought to be more valuable than gold. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
So the more lace you had, the wealthier you were. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
But it was a different story for the lacemakers. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
The work for a lacemaker was pretty tough. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Everybody thinks it's this romantic wonderful pass-time, it wasn't. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
It was vary, very long hours. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
You couldn't have your coal fire on in the winter | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
because of the soot would discolour the lace, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
so you'd have to work in the cold. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
It was long, hard hours. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
Your fingers would've been very sore. It was a tough, tough life. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Lace is very, very time-consuming and some of the patterns | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
that are very intricate would take a lot longer. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
The pay was pretty appalling, really. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
My grandmother used to get paid six pennies, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
six old pennies, for a piece of lace that was a handkerchief edge. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
My mother would take it round to the corner shop | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
and that would be to pay for her food. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Until the mid-19th century, almost the only schools in lacemaking | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
districts were lace schools. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
They would have had very, very big pillows, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
stuffed with anything that they could find | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
and they were big bolster pillows that would sit on maids | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
and then they would have bobbins, but they wouldn't be very | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
posh bobbins, they'd be made out of twigs. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
The lace schools were pretty awful places. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
They were usually in a little room in a cottage. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
The lace teacher would be quite strict and would also smack | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
the children, prick their fingers if they got the patterns wrong. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
They learnt a trade, but it was tough going. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
But by the end of the 19th century, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
the industry had gone into decline as a result of the | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Industrial Revolution and, later, with the outbreak of World War I. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
People weren't buying the handmade lace. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
There were machines making lace | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
and the First World War also had a big impact with it. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Women, really, were needed for other work and not making lace. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Back in the office, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
the team have discovered that David's maternal grandparents, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
James and Susan, had five children in total - | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Leonard, Florence - David's mother - Lucy, Albert and Frederick. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
I found a 1911 census with a Florence Butcher, aged 12. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:23 | |
She's at school and born in Leicester. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
More importantly is she's living in Wellingborough, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
which we already know is where the parents got married, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
so it's tying in quite nicely. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
She is one of six children and that her parents are James Butcher | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
and Susan Butcher, who have been married for 21 years. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
The great thing about this census is that all the children who | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
have survived up until this point are all on the census with | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
their parents. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
So the oldest is Leonard Butcher, who's 17. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Then you have Florence who's obviously our deceased's mother. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
Lucy Butcher, who is 11, Albert Butcher, who's eight | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
and then Frederick Butcher, who is six. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
But initial research for living descendants throws up dead ends. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
I think Shannon found a death for Lucy. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
I found marriages for both my Frederick and Leonard. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
Both get married in the Northampton area. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
But they both died with no issue. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Leonard Butcher, the oldest on the 1911 census, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
he actually marries a Sarah Foster in 1917 in Wellingborough, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
but they don't have any children. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
When Leonard dies in 1977, his brother Albert registers the death. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:47 | |
So, that reassures us | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
that definitely Leonard didn't have any children from his marriage. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
Florence's sister Lucy actually died quite young. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
She died at the age of 23 years old in Wellingborough, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
and she died under Lucy Butcher so we know she was a spinster | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
and didn't have any children. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Finding any aunts, uncles and cousins as potential heirs | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
is looking unlikely. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
With the father's side ruled out after David's father's adoption, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
will the team discover any heirs at all? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
I seem to, yeah, have a bit of a touch at the moment for... | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
..for not getting any beneficiaries! | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
No, we've been trying to trace the relatives of a gentleman | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
who passed away by the surname of Collinson. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Every year in Britain, thousands of people get a surprise | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
knock on the door from the heir hunters. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
It just seems a big miracle, so, you know, nobody ever thinks | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
this sort of thing happens. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates on the Treasury Solicitor's | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
Bona Vacantia list that are yet to be claimed. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
The first case is Daisy Irene Sloat, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
who died in Bognor Regis, West Sussex, on 12 March, 1996. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
She was 78 when she passed away and was born in Wickford, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Essex, in 1917. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
Do you know anyone of that name who used to live in Bognor Regis? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
Could there still be family links to Daisy | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
in either West Sussex or Essex? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Could you be the beneficiary they're looking for? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
The next case is that of Gordon Sheldon. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
He died on 18 May, 1997, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
in Wolverhampton in the West Midlands, aged 63. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
He was born on either 8th or 18 November, 1933, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
and was taken in by Dr Barnardo's. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
Dr Barnardo's were homes for orphaned and destitute children. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
The first opening in 1870 after Thomas Barnardo spotted | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
children sleeping on roofs and in gutters. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
The charity is still around today. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
For Gordon Sheldon, Dr Barnardo's could have changed his life. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
Do you know anything that could be the key to solving this case? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
If you think you might be related to either of these people, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
you would need to make a claim on their estate through | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
the government legal department. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Once again, the names of the cases | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
we're trying to solve with your help today are... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
In London, heir hunting firm Finders have taken | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
on the estate of William Brookstone, an ex-naval steward from Plymouth. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
I can't think of any other way that we're going to get hold of him. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
As a person, he was warm, easy to talk to, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
had a really good sense of humour. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
We were always cracking a joke. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:09 | |
He was always happy, and that was just Billy. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Initial research had led nowhere, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
but with friends suggesting William may have had children, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
the team had a new lead to follow which could lead to a living heir. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
When we hear that a person may have had a child, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
although we may have eliminated that | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
through official records or formal records, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
we'll obviously need to go back | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
and check again to see if something's been missed. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
So I'll start with this, I think. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
-If you could just figure out who he was. -OK. -Yeah. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
Suzanne began a fresh hunt for marriage indexes to see | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
if they could trace a child for William. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
My initial search was for a marriage for a William Brooks. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
But it seems they'd hit another dead end. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
After ordering lots of certificates, none of them seem to match | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
so my next step was to look at Victor. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Possibly, he could have married previously. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
All right, thanks a lot. Bye-bye. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
So I'm having a look to see whether Victor married | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and I found a marriage here in 1953 in Paddington. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
And it looks as though he had one daughter living... | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
Born in Paddington. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
So that ties in with him having a daughter in London. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
Which all seemed to fit the picture of the neighbours who | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
mentioned that they had their grandchildren to visit. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
It was a key discovery to find out that Victor was the one who | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
had married and had children. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Even though the neighbours were really certain | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
that they had grandchildren, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
I'm 99% sure that William had no children of his own. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
He would've been in his 20s when he was in a relationship with | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Victor, whereas Victor was a lot older | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
and had time to previously have a family and have children. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
But it led the team no closer to finding blood | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
relatives of William's who would be heirs. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
In any situation, Victor's children or grandchildren wouldn't be | 0:28:06 | 0:28:12 | |
able to inherit from William's estate, as William | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
and Victor were never legally married or in a civil partnership. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
However, with William's true name now part of the search, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Suzanne got the team to return to his birth certificate which | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
revealed his parents as Winifred May Goodwin | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
and Ernest Walter Brooks. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
But their search for brothers and sisters was fruitless. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Once I discovered that he had no other siblings, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
he never married and had any children, I then was able to use | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
the parents' names to look for them on the census to look for wider kin. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
From William's birth certificate, we were able to see | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
that his father was a railway goods guard. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
Census records showed his maternal grandparents as William Goodwin | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
and Edith Chenery. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:01 | |
William and Edith had three children in total - | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
Albert, Winifred and Jack. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
We discovered that William had a maternal uncle called Jack Goodwin. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
In 1939, he married a Elsie Rose Flat | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
and he was a railway porter. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
And all the records pointed towards a strong connection with | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
the railway across the family. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
From the marriage certificate between William and Edith, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
we were able to find out that William was a shunter at a railway. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
In fact, the family played a role in one of the biggest | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
achievements in transport history, in the capital. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
The first Underground railway line opened in 1863. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
People were very sceptical about the whole concept of the Underground. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
People thought it wouldn't be safe. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
They would have been steam-operated in the early days. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
If you can imagine steam trains in a confined Underground platform, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
it was quite hellish for the first people that used it. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
William's grandfather, William Goodwin, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
was a shunter on the Great Eastern Main Line, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
which formed part of the early Central Line. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
It was one of the earliest true Underground lines, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
cos it actually went underground. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
It was the first one that was, sort of, sold as being for people | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
who wanted to enjoy central London. So, theatre-goers and shoppers | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
and people who wanted to enjoy the nightlife. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
It was the first line to run right through the heart of central London. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
For William Goodwin, in 1911, I can only imagine that | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
working on the railways would have been quite a proud job. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
It would have been quite a nostalgic industry to work in | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and it would have been a real sense of pride that the workers had. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
And by the turn of the 20th century, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
the Underground had spread entirely across London. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
The 1930s was a huge period of transition | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
for the London Underground. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
For someone working on the Underground at that time, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
it would've been an exciting time, probably, a chance for new jobs, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
new roles. It's where the brand of London Underground, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
if you like, really came into its own. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
William's uncle, Jack Goodwin, started on the railways | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
in a junior, but what some would see as glamorous, role. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
For Jack, working in the 1930s as a porter, I imagine, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
he probably would have seen a lot of different people. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
Then, he probably would have been helping rich people get their | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
luggage on and off trains, workers to and from trains. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
So, it would have been a job filled with lots of variety. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
Jack Goodwin progressed to become senior ticket collector | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
at Stratford Station. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
I imagine, that would have been a job that would have come with | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
a lot of pride. It would've been, I imagine, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
one of the most senior jobs in the station. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Jack would've witnessed so much change and he would have been | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
experiencing first-hand London becoming what it is today. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
And as the research into William's mother's side of the family | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
continued, focusing on William's two uncles, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
the team were, finally, getting closer to finding potential heirs. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
So, Albert marries an Elizabeth Bridger in 1947. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
However, they didn't have any children. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
So, I went to look at the next maternal uncle, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
which was Jack Goodwin. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
Jack had three children. Two of them, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
Elsie and Mary, both passed away without having any children. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Frederick was the only one still living. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
And he was our first heir. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
Born in 1946, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
Frederick was William's first cousin and lives in Romford. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
It was the first time I'd heard anything. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
I'd lost complete touch with him and so, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
I couldn't wonder who'd left me any money. Then, when I found out | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
who it was from, I thought, "Oh, well. Oh, poor Billy." | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Despite losing touch with his cousin, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
Frederick has fond memories of him growing up. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
A quiet boy, bit shy. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Once he was down in the Navy, in Plymouth, I mean, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
the only time we saw him was on leave. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
He used to come and visit us on a Sunday, in his Navy uniform. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
He looked ever so smart in his walking out uniform, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
with his bell-bottoms and all that, with his hat. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
It would've been nice if he could have actually stayed in the Navy. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
He'd have probably come out, after 20 or 25 years, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Chief Petty Officer or something. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
He'd have had a good career and a good pension. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
And Frederick is able to confirm the family's long-running | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
connection to the British railway. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
My dad worked on the railway, Billy's dad worked on the railway. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
Billy's grandad, my grandad, worked on the railway. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
Billy's uncle, Albert, who was my dad's brother, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
he worked on the railway. It was a railway family. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
But the story wasn't over. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
As Suzanne had to ensure all of William's heirs were found, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
she crossed over to William's father's side of the family. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
So, we're looking at William's paternal side of the family. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
The first thing we need to do is look for the father, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
on the 1911 census, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
which will then enable us to look for his parents. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
Their names were James Walter Brooks and Mary Ann Brooks. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
Further clues revealed that they had four children. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
Although, one died as an infant. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
This left two paternal aunts. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
The team were immediately thrown, however, as the family | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
surname appeared different on the census to their birth records. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
Now, one of the aunts was Annie Lilian Brooks. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
On the census, it notes them all as Brooks, spelt with an "S". | 0:34:20 | 0:34:27 | |
However, on Annie's birth, it mentions her name with an "ES". | 0:34:27 | 0:34:33 | |
Confident they had the right aunts, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
the team began to look at their children, to establish | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
if there were any living heirs. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
Turns out that Annie had four children | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
and Florence had two children. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
Once all the research was complete, there were six heirs in total, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
which meant that they all received a reasonable sum of money. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
For Suzanne and the team, it was an amazing hunt | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
through the twists and turns of British history. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
William was quite an interesting character. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
It's always rewarding to work these sorts of cases, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
where we find out more about the person. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
But, for friends and family, it's been a chance to look back | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
and remember William. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
I suppose, I could, you know, when things are all settled up, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
have a little drink to Billy. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
With great sadness that he passed on Christmas Eve and every | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
Christmas Eve there's still a drink raised to him, just to remember him. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
Not that we'd ever forget him, because he was that sort of guy. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
He stays in your memories. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
London based heir hunting firm Fraser & Fraser have been | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
struggling with the mystery of David Collinson. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
Quiet guy, kept himself to himself. The positive things about him, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
never caused any trouble. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
After proving his father was informally adopted, the team | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
will only be able to find potential heirs through his mother's family. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
-Only one way to find out. -Give it a call. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
With the heir hunters having ruled out three of his mother | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
Florence's four siblings, there is only one uncle left. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
We began into an Albert Masters Butcher. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
He dies in 1991, in Kettering. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
And, before that, he marries an Agnes, in 1925, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
in Wellingborough and they have two daughters. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
But the team have no luck with the first daughter, Margaret. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
We found a death entry for Margaret L Butcher. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
No marriage, spinster. Spinster death, again. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
A Margaret, who dies in 1946, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
at quite a young age, she's born 1928. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
With her dying a spinster, all hopes of an heir rely on the other sister, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
David's cousin. And they could have a breakthrough. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
We've done our standard checks, such as births, deaths and marriages. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
And we can't find a death for her at all. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
We have found out that she has children. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
So, we're going to contact them, instead of her, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
just because of her age. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
The firm's travelling researcher is put on standby. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
Do you fancy a trip? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
No! Come on. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
Probably up to Northamptonshire. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
I've got an heir born in 1931. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
I'm going to try and speak to her son first, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
so, hopefully, he'll be involved. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
You can go up there. All right. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
If Mike can successfully make contact with the heir, Ewart, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
their travelling research, will be dispatched. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
Hello, sir. Very sorry to trouble you. It's nothing to worry about, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
in the slightest. We're a company who specialise in tracing missing heirs | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
and beneficiaries. We've been trying to trace the relatives | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
of a gentleman who passed away. So, I think his dad was a gentleman | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
called Leslie Royal Collinson. Now, are you aware of David | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
ever having any brothers or sisters at all? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
Take care, bye-bye. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
He was more than happy with everything. Pretty much confirmed | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
that she was the last link on this side of the family. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
So, it looks like she will probably be the only heir to this estate. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
If we are right that the deceased has an interest in the house | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
he lived in, the property and prices are | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
around £90,000-£100,000. So, as she's the only heir, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
she'd be the one that's to stand to inherit at all. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Yeah, if I've give you that and I'll take that one, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
-so I can take down the address. -Yeah. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
But, as the heir hunters double-check their research, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
they stumble across another twist to the tale. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
We found another beneficiary, the daughter of Frederick Butcher. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
Frederick Butcher is the younger brother of Florence. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
He's born in 1904, in Wellingborough and he marries | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
a Muriel Kathleen Kingham, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
in 1927, in Wellingborough. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
Despite previous research suggesting David's uncle Frederick | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
had died without children, new documents came to light that reveal | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
he had married Muriel Kingham and had a daughter. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
Originally, we thought that Frederick had no children | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
and that he died with no issue. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
But, we've later found, from ordering | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
his wife's death certificate, there is a daughter, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
who's witness on her death. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
So, she could potentially be the daughter of Frederick. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:32 | |
So, what we're going to do is we're going to go back | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
and we're going to find her marriage | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
and find out what her maiden name is. Now, if it is Butcher, there is | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
every likelihood that she is Frederick's daughter. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
And, therefore, an heir on this case. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
The information wasn't obvious first time round, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
as Frederick's wife, Muriel, had two names. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
On the birth entry of the cousin, the mother's maiden name was | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
listed differently to what the mother got married at. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
She was married under "Muriel Kathleen Kingham." | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
But, on the birth certificate, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
the mother's maiden name was down as "King." | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
So, obviously, we were looking for a completely different name | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
and it just turns out that, for some bizarre reason, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
"King" was the maiden name, not "Kingham." | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
This meant that, originally, Mike and the team had | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
been unable to locate this birth. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
We find the wrong birth certificate. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
We were researching the wrong family. Wasted, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
we have to throw the whole lot away. It may only come out | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
when we get all the certificates back at a later date and then | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
everyone put them all together and realised | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
there's something wrong. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
We've made hundreds of mistakes, like that, over the years. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
Our experience means we don't make as many as we could. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
For an heir hunter, we've got | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
to be sure that we're going down the right line of research. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
So, it's up to Mike to finish off the case for good. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
We noticed that the beneficiary was born in 1928. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
So, I didn't want to contact her straight away. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
OK, cool, I will. Bye. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
So, we contacted one of her daughters, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
who informed us that the beneficiary, her mother, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
had dementia. So, obviously, it was a lot easier to go | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
through the daughter, who then informed us about the family. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
And it seems that Frederick's daughter had gone on | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
to have two daughters and a son, Andrew Ross. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
We were very excited. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
We've not really had any sort of inheritance before | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
and I was very excited for me and my family. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I knew that David was a distant relative, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
but we just hadn't had any contact. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
Although Andrew had only met David as a boy, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
the call from the heir hunters has sparked fond memories. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
He was quite a clever guy. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
He was quite into TV and radio and things like that. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
I'm quite disappointed, really, that no contact has been | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
made between us, cos I think I'd probably have got on well with him. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
After a tricky start, the heir hunters had succeeded | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
in finding not one, but two heirs to the estate of David Collinson. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
Informal adoptions happen more regularly than you'd think. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
Often, it adds a bit more flavour to the job, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
makes things a little bit more interesting. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Otherwise, you'd just be doing the same repetitive stuff everyday. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
Instead, you get cases, like this, which change your mind. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
You know, you have to work out a really difficult puzzle. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
The successful result had been a combination of following | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
gut instinct and then proving this with documentary evidence. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
For us, it's vital we follow the correct line. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
We have to take gambles. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
And we have to take gambles when we can't get the proofs. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
We follow a hunch, we work a family, in the hope that we can | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
prove it later. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
But it's vital we can prove it. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
And, for the heirs, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:48 | |
it's been a chance to take a trip down memory lane. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
We recently went on a holiday up to the Lake District | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
and on the way back, we did actually call and see David's house. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
It was quite interesting to see where he'd been living and, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
if there's a nice cheque arrives, then we'll all drink a toast, yes. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 |