Radmall/Hawkesworth Heir Hunters


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Across, the country heir hunters are searching

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-for long-lost families.

-Hello.

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It's Wednesday in London

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and just one case has landed on the heir hunters' desk.

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It's going to be hugely competitive,

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so it's really important that we get going quickly.

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They might be about to change someone's life.

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This is probably one of the weirdest days I've ever had in my life.

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I think, if I told someone about it,

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they'd probably take me back to the loony asylum.

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In Shropshire, emotions run high

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after an unexpected knock at the door.

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I don't want his money. I want him.

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And that leads to a touching reunion.

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Here's to George. Ta-ra, George.

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-Cheers.

-You'll be missed by all of us.

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-All the best, George.

-Cheers, George.

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In London, case manager Amy Moyes has the bona vacantia list

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issued by the Treasury.

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Every day, probate genealogists, like those at Finders,

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search for families of those who have died without any next of kin.

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We've just had this morning's ads through.

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There's one ad today on the list

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and it turns out to be a property owner.

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It's the estate of the late Robert Sidney Radmall.

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I'm just working with Ryan on this.

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As soon as the lists are available, it's a race against the clock

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for any heir-hunting firm to beat their rivals to secure any heirs.

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With only one new case today, the pressure is on.

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It's going to be hugely competitive,

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so it's really important that we get going quickly,

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so we're just trying, at the moment, to clear off any close kin

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and then look as quickly as we can

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into the maternal and paternal families.

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Mark Forrest was a close friend and work colleague of Robert Radmall,

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who died, unexpectedly, aged 59.

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I knew Robert for just under four years.

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Robert and I became very good friends.

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We used to speak quite often, two or three times a week.

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Robert lived in Hemel Hempstead and Mark got to know him

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when he worked on an independent film he was shooting.

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He came on board. He was assistant director.

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Um, he assisted with the lighting,

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he was the assistant director of photography,

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he would help with the location. We had a different level of skill sets.

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There were some guys that were established and others not so,

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and Robert would be the lynchpin between the two.

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Robert's promising career was tragically cut short

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when, on the 18 August, 2015, aged 59, he suddenly passed away.

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It was a complete shock to me, complete shock to all of us,

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all of his close friends. When I first heard, I thought,

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"No, it's a mistake, obviously it's a mistake."

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I spoke to him a few days before and we were due to meet soon,

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within the next few days.

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Yeah, complete shock. He had so much to give.

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In the offices of the heir hunters,

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case manager Ryan Gregory has already established

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key information about Robert.

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We were able to use the address and see that Robert lived on his own

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since around 1992, when he moved into the property.

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We could back that up with a marriage search

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and the initial indications suggest that Robert was a bachelor.

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So, we're not looking at a spouse.

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It's hard for us to find any children,

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given that he evidently didn't marry,

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so we're ruling out issue and a spouse for now.

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Looking at the electoral rolls for Robert Radmall,

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we can see he's probably been living in the family home

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and he's probably inherited that.

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When we look, historically, through the electoral rolls,

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he's actually living with, seem to be, his mother and father,

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Emmeline and Sidney Radmall.

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This means that Robert's estate is likely to contain

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the family home in Hertfordshire,

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making it a valuable asset for any potential heirs.

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Robert's parents were Sidney Alfred G Radmall and Emmeline Annie Coles.

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They married in 1940 and had Robert, an only child, in 1956.

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Sidney Radmall passed away in 2002.

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Emmeline Radmall, nee Coles, passed away in 2004,

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so there's no parents that would claim the estate either.

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Mark Forrest didn't know Robert's parents, but heard of them often.

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Robert...

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..would speak about his parents. He had fond memories of his parents.

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I think his dad boxed at amateur level

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but, yeah, he spoke highly of his parents, very much.

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Loved them dearly.

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-Is he there?

-Right, OK, fair enough.

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Between them, Amy and Ryan have to tackle

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both Robert's father's side of the family, Radmall,

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and his mother's side, Coles.

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Knowing that other companies will be working this case,

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they'll have to work fast to trace living heirs

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before another firm beats them to it.

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-I have one for you, me and Suzanne.

-OK.

-Which side do you fancy?

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You've got Coles-McDermott or you've got Radmall-Pratt.

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You choose.

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Um...I'll take the Coles. I prefer Emmeline.

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I'm hopeful that they've all got interesting names.

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An interesting or unusual name involved in the research

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can often help speed things along. In the Radmall case,

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there were some very interesting and unusual names to work with.

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The Radmall name itself was quite an unusual one.

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So, what we found out is that the paternal grandparents were called

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Sidney Bertram George Radmall and Ada Elizabeth Radmall, nee Pratt.

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They married on 18th April, 1915. They were living in Islington.

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This was during the First World War.

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Sidney was a soldier at the time of marriage.

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Um, so, beyond that, they had Gladys in the same year and Sidney,

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who's the deceased's father, they had a few later in 1918.

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I'm looking at the maternal family, which is surname Coles,

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so already, that's a much more common surname

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than Radmall to be dealing with.

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From the records,

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it looks as though the deceased's mother was one of three siblings,

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her brother and sister being called John and Margaret.

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So, again, they're not the greatest names to be working with.

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I was really hopeful that, as the mother was called Emmeline Annie,

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that her siblings would have equally interesting names, but they don't.

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The deceased's father was one of three as well.

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We found Gladys A Marion Radmall, born in 1915.

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She married Thomas H State

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but she didn't have any children with him.

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I found out that the deceased's paternal uncle,

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Ronald John H Radmall, born in 1932,

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so relatively recently in the scheme of things, he passed away in 2000.

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He was married in 1962,

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so I just need to find out whether he had any children.

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Ryan discovers that Robert's aunt Gladys passed away in 1977.

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Without Robert's parents alive,

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his uncle Ronald's children will be the only heirs

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on Robert's father's side of the family.

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The search is quickly narrowing down to only a few heirs.

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Other companies may have already discovered this

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and could be on the trail.

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Camilla, could we have a text for reps

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-to be on standby for London, Hertfordshire?

-OK.

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Amy is now looking at Robert's mother's side of the family.

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Her maiden name was Coles.

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Uncle John Coles - looks as though he's passed away in the '80s,

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but with a name like John Coles, I can't really tell if he's married

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or had children until, hopefully, his death certificate gives me

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some more info. So, I'm waiting on that.

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I then moved over to maternal aunt, Margaret.

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Now, there's a really strong possibility, I think,

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that she's alive and has moved to the Sussex area.

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She may now be known as Peggy, rather than Margaret,

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which isn't uncommon, especially for her generation.

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She was born in the '30s. I tried a phone number for her.

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She's not answering. It's ringing out, without a machine,

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so I can't leave a message.

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Amy, could I get you to make some calls for me to help?

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I think she might be a beneficiary but she's not answering.

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-Could you call a few neighbours and just see if she is home or not?

-OK.

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So, I'm going to send one of our travelling reps

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to see if we can't catch her at home.

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And if that fails, hopefully they can find out, from neighbours,

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whether she's, perhaps, away on holiday

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or where she is or whether she's moved on.

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But there's a breakthrough.

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Amy's team manage to track down a neighbour.

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Yes, the gentleman next door said that she's in a mobility scooter.

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-Oh, OK.

-Someone should be in.

-So she's just not answering the phone.

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She's just not answering the phone. But he doesn't know

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if she has any children or not that we could contact.

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I don't think she does.

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But he said to keep trying the phone number,

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but he was in bed, cos he's on night shifts,

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so I woke him up but he was kind enough to let us know.

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-That's nice of him. OK.

-Yeah.

-Good. Thank you. Good news.

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While the team work on finding living relatives,

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Robert's grandparents' marriage certificate reveals

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more about them, listing his grandfather as a coach builder.

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In the 1920s and '30s, Charles could have worked at a firm

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like the Morgan Motor Company, where cars were custom-built.

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Martyn Webb is the company's archivist today.

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Charles would have developed great skills in this.

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It's not an easy job at all.

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You needed great woodworking skills

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to create the structural frame of the car,

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not only accurate from an aesthetic point of view

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but, of course, it had to be structurally sound as well.

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Charles would have started as an apprentice

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and been trained by skilled craftsmen.

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By the mid-1930s, his skills would have been in great demand,

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as it was a boom time for the manufacture of cars.

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They would have been building bodies for Rolls-Royce and Bentley

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and other prestigious motor manufacturers.

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It would have been fairly long hours.

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He would have been a reasonably respected craftsman

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cos this wasn't easy work at all.

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Only the very wealthy could afford to buy a car until the 1930s,

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when the costs of motoring came down

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and an averagely well-off family could then afford to buy a car.

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A simple wooden frame, constructed out of a number of pieces of ash.

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These were hand-crafted and then sent into the workshops above

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to be panelled in either steel or aluminium or some other method.

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Today, Morgan is the only company in the UK

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still using traditional methods.

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In the late 1940s, the arrival of mass manufacturing

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signalled the end of this era and many companies went bankrupt.

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Coach maker Charles was good with his hands

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and passed his creative genes down to film-maker Robert.

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Do you mind just seeing if you can find a Steven, with a V, R Radmall,

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born in 1962? He should still be alive.

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Back in the office, and Ryan has found that Robert's uncle Ronald

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did have a son, Steven, who lives in London.

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OK, he might be the only paternal heir. Shall I give him a call?

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-Yes, please.

-OK.

-The only one?

-Looks like it, yeah.

-OK.

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-There's only a mobile.

-OK.

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He might be engaged.

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Ryan eventually gets through

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to what must be a very surprised Steven Radmall.

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Hello, is that Steven Radmall? Hello, there.

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It's Ryan Gregory at Finders in London.

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We're a firm of heir hunters.

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I'm guessing, by the engaged tone on your mobile,

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that someone's been in contact with you about a deceased's estate?

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Right.

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OK, so, we trace missing beneficiaries to estates.

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We're looking for Steven Radmall, who was born in 1962?

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With pressure mounting and the company's travelling researchers

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already despatched in other areas, company MD, Daniel,

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volunteers to go and see Steven himself.

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But will he get there before any competitors?

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Across the country, our next case is in Shropshire,

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where the search is on for unknown heirs

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of 68-year-old George Hawkesworth.

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He had a close circle of friends and neighbours

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in his home town of Telford.

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George had a hell of a personality. He either got on with you

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or he didn't.

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If George thought you were a fool, he'd soon let you know.

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Luckily, I used to get on very well with him.

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Yeah, we had some good times, me and George.

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On 13th January, 2015,

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ex-army man George passed away, after battling a serious illness.

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None of his friends knew of any family or will,

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so the search was taken up

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by London-based heir-hunting firm Fraser and Fraser.

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The unusual bit about this case was the name.

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I've never come across Hawkesworth

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and usually that's a good sign, when you haven't seen a name before,

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cos it probably means it's not particularly common.

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The advantage of George's surname meant that,

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unlike Smith or Jones, it could be an easy family name

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for the heir hunters to trace and establish heirs.

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The first thing we usually do in a case like this

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is to contact the neighbours of the deceased to see if they knew

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anything about him, regarding his family or his background.

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Heather Smith was one of those neighbours.

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George used to love going fishing. He'd like a teatime drink.

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I miss George cos he was such a good neighbour

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and I'd known him for 15 years

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and he was the ideal neighbour that you'd want to have.

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George lived alone and Heather didn't ever meet any of his family.

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When I first moved in, I saw a nephew.

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A nephew came once and I never saw him again

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but I don't think he had visitors at all, to be honest.

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He just, you know, kept himself to himself at home.

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Unfortunately, neither Heather nor any of George's other neighbours

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could provide the heir hunters with further information.

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George's death certificate revealed that he was born in Scotland,

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so Mike began to look for any relatives north of the border.

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The first thing that we needed to do was to establish

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whether or not George was married or had any children

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and, after a couple of searches, it looked like he was never married

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in England or Scotland or had any children.

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OK, cool. I will. Bye.

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George's family was the army.

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He was a career soldier and rose to the rank of staff sergeant.

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He completed tours in Northern Ireland, Germany and Borneo

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and made lifelong friends throughout his 22-year service.

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I first met George in Northern Ireland. I was posted there

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and George and I were in a room together.

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We spent all our time in the Queen's Dragoon Guards there

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and it was a great place to be, especially for young boys,

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cos there was lots of beer and lots of girls,

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so we really enjoyed ourselves.

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George joined the army when he was 18 and spent the next 22 years

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in the illustrious 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards,

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retiring when he was 40.

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Close colleague Dave remembers

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George was fascinated in mechanics from an early age.

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He really enjoyed driving and fixing things,

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whereas we'd just break them.

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George would constantly say,

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"You're driving too fast, you're too high up the gears,"

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and things like that, so he took more care

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of the vehicles than we did, I think.

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In 1965, the regiment was posted to Borneo,

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the largest island in Asia,

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close to Singapore and famous for its dense rainforests.

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George and I, all of us young lads, loved it

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because we were in such an alien environment,

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at such a young age - first time I and George had travelled outside

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the United Kingdom - and to go halfway round the world,

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nearly on the equator, weather conditions that we'd never heard of.

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I know it rains a lot in Northern Ireland but not as much as Borneo.

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UK troops were sent to Borneo to defend it from Indonesia,

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after a new Federation of Malaysia was set up,

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which was partly under control by the British.

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The mission of the British forces

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in Borneo was to defend Borneo from incursions by Indonesian forces,

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coming across the border.

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It's worth pointing out that this was an undeclared war

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between Indonesia and Malaysia but the main purpose, really,

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was to defend this very long border

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between the Malaysian portion of Borneo

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and the Indonesian portion, called Kalimantan.

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One of the patrols I did with George was 16 days away from the camp.

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That means we had to carry all our food. And we had to, um...

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Well, we took everything with us

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and because we couldn't smoke, because we couldn't clean our teeth,

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we couldn't wash, and we had to be quiet,

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we didn't speak to each other, except late at night.

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It was all done by sign language and clicks.

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Dave remembers he and George befriending the locals

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and developing a soft spot for some of the animals.

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When George and I were on patrol,

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we came across a orang-utan female that had been shot,

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and clinging to her breast,

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was a small baby orang-utan which we tried to rescue.

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We realised that we couldn't feed it properly,

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so we radioed for baby formula milk, baby bottles and teats

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and we were able, then, to feed this baby orang-utan

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and carry it back to civilisation

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and hand it over to the authorities.

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Cheers.

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At the heir hunters' office, for case manager Mike Pow,

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the unusual surname of Hawkesworth

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made finding George's parents relatively easy,

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through birth and death records.

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Mike established that George also didn't have any brothers or sisters.

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The parents of the deceased, we learnt,

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were a Rose Docherty and a George English Hawkesworth.

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Now, the marriage certificate stated that Rose was married beforehand

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to a gentleman called Robert Aldridge.

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We then had to make sure that the mother of the deceased

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didn't have any children from her first marriage to Mr Aldridge,

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so we had to set about checking the birth indexes of Scotland

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and England to make sure there wasn't any further issue

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and we discovered that there was none.

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For Mike, the hunt is on to find an heir

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and he finds out that George wasn't the only one

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with a long and interesting military career.

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She's working, clearly, on fitting out the inside of a plane.

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Every year, in Britain,

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there are thousands of unsolved inheritance cases,

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where heirs need to be found. Could YOU be one of them?

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Today, we've got details of two estates

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on the Treasury solicitor's bona vacantia list

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that are yet to be claimed.

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The first case is that of Elizabeth Agnew.

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She died on 15 April, 2013, in Ashford, Kent, and was 91 years old.

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It's believed she may have been known by the surname Dobin.

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She was born in France,

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three years after the end of World War I, on 28th September, 1921.

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The name Agnew is of Norman origin,

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but may originate from the French name, Agneau.

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Could there still be family links to Elizabeth

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in either Normandy or France?

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Does the name strike a chord with you?

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Do you have any ideas that could hold the key

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to unlocking this estate?

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Next, the case of Jack Adams,

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who was 68 when he died on 26th January, 2003.

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He was a bachelor and lived in Leytonstone, East London.

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It's believed that Jack might have a brother living in Canada.

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Does his name mean anything to you?

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Could you be the beneficiary they're looking for?

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If you think you might be related to either of these people,

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you would need to make a claim on their estate

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through the government legal department.

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I feel I am very, very lucky

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to be a beneficiary of somebody who I didn't know.

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Could it be you?

0:22:000:22:02

Do you know anything that could help solve

0:22:020:22:04

the cases of Elizabeth Agnew or Jack Adams?

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If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way.

0:22:070:22:11

In London, heir hunting firm Fraser and Fraser have taken on the case

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of 68-year-old George Hawkesworth, who spent 22 years in the army.

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Case manager Mike Pow has been looking into George's family history

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for potential heirs and discovered that his mother, Rose Guthrie,

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may have provided the inspiration for George's military career.

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On the mother of the deceased's second marriage,

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we noticed that the mother of the deceased

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was an aircraft fitter in Paisley, which was in 1945.

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In the Second World War,

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Rose Guthrie worked making parts to kit out the interior of planes.

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Living in Paisley, Scotland, which had a strong textile industry,

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she transferred her skills from fabric-making

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to industrial factory work.

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One of the new innovative things that came in

0:23:090:23:11

in the Second World War was conscription for women.

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Women between the ages of 20 and 40 who hadn't got children under 14,

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were called up to work either in factories, like Rose did,

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in the locality, if they were married,

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or maybe they would go into the forces.

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As part of conscription, women had to choose

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whether to enter the armed forces or work in farming or industry.

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By December, 1943, one in three factory workers was female.

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They were building planes, tanks, guns

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and making ammunition needed for the war.

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She's looking at light industrial work,

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in what was probably a very big factory.

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It would have been a small part of the job.

0:23:520:23:54

What they did was to use very specialised bits of labour

0:23:540:23:57

so, instead of learning and going through a lengthy apprenticeship,

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you would learn just one tiny bit of the task.

0:24:000:24:02

Unfortunately, that made it particularly tedious

0:24:020:24:05

cos it was very repetitive.

0:24:050:24:07

But it would have been a very important job

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and numerous women, like her,

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by being moved into this different part of industry,

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not in what you would call garment trades or luxury production,

0:24:140:24:18

but into really important war work,

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contributed enormously to the war effort.

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Working long hours, but for the first time,

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earning a good wage of up to 40 shillings a week,

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the war effort would help shift attitudes

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to women's role in society forever.

0:24:310:24:34

One of the things that war is about

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is not just about the men who are fighting

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but about the machinery which enables them to fight

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and, particularly, in 20th century warfare.

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So, the production of armaments, of planes, of tanks,

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is absolutely crucial to the war effort,

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so you really need to pull in that female workforce -

0:24:510:24:54

voluntary, if you can but, if not, compulsory.

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Because their work is going to enable you to fight the war.

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George's mother was a strong woman

0:25:020:25:04

and, as the heir hunters dug deeper into her past,

0:25:040:25:06

they found that her wartime conscription

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developed into a lifelong military career.

0:25:090:25:11

INAUDIBLE

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After the war, Rose worked as a civil servant for the MOD

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until she retired.

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For the heir hunters

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and their search for potential heirs to George's estate,

0:25:240:25:27

it was Rose's side of the family

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that case worker Mike Pow delved into next.

0:25:290:25:32

The grandmother of the deceased, Rose Ann Docherty,

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married John Guthrie in 1915.

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George's parents were Rose Docherty and George Hawkesworth.

0:25:370:25:42

Rose's mother, Rose Ann Docherty, married John Guthrie.

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They had an incredible 12 children over a 21-year period.

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Interestingly, John's name is not actually

0:25:510:25:54

on Rose's birth certificate,

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making her brothers and sisters half-blood siblings by law.

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This meant that if full-blood aunts and uncles could be established,

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her siblings would not be entitled.

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So we knew that there were 11 aunts and uncles of the deceased

0:26:080:26:12

who were issue from the marriage of Rose Docherty and John Guthrie.

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We had a quick look to see if any of them died when they were young

0:26:150:26:19

and only one died, so we knew there were going to be

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at least ten aunts and uncles who possibly survived and had children.

0:26:220:26:25

All were still alive and would be beneficiaries.

0:26:250:26:28

-I spoke to her.

-Right.

-She phoned in.

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One of those was Mary McNally, Rose's youngest sister by 21 years.

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The heir hunters traced her

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and gave her the news about her nephew George.

0:26:380:26:41

At first I was shocked.

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I said, "No, I don't think so. He's younger than me, you know."

0:26:430:26:47

Mary was close to her sister, Rose, but because of the wide age gap,

0:26:490:26:53

as George's aunty, she was only six years older than him.

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I remember George well, you know.

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I was in Scotland at the time he was born.

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I remember him coming home from the hospital with his mum

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and I took him out.

0:27:060:27:08

At that time, he was only a little tiny thing, you know,

0:27:080:27:12

so my mum put him here, she put a blanket round me

0:27:120:27:17

and I took him outside

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and I was walking round the streets with him in this little shawl.

0:27:200:27:23

It was so funny.

0:27:230:27:25

Mary remembers George as a typical boisterous young boy.

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When he was a kid, he was a funny wee thing, at times.

0:27:300:27:36

He was always, maybe, hiding.

0:27:360:27:39

He'd be hiding and saying, "Where am I?", things like that.

0:27:390:27:43

And he'd jump out at you, frighten the life out of you.

0:27:430:27:46

He was a wee rascal.

0:27:460:27:49

Mary and her daughter, Carol, didn't know George as an adult.

0:27:490:27:52

She lost touch with him

0:27:520:27:54

when he moved away from Scotland with his mother.

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I did see him quite a lot when we went on holiday

0:27:570:28:02

and, I mean, that was it.

0:28:020:28:05

And then, the last time I seen him was at his mum's funeral.

0:28:050:28:09

And then we lost contact, which was a shame.

0:28:100:28:14

Mary is one of 16 heirs to George's estate.

0:28:140:28:18

Whatever we're getting, I think it should...

0:28:190:28:22

It would be nice for it to go to something to do with the army,

0:28:220:28:26

instead of...money.

0:28:260:28:30

I don't want his money. I want him.

0:28:300:28:33

But...

0:28:360:28:38

I don't know.

0:28:390:28:41

Sad, sad, sad.

0:28:410:28:43

For case manager Mike Pow,

0:28:470:28:49

having searched George's mother's family history for potential heirs,

0:28:490:28:53

he now needed to complete the whole family picture.

0:28:530:28:57

We'll keep our fingers crossed

0:28:570:28:58

that there's not too many stems on their side.

0:28:580:29:01

The next stage was trying to work out the paternal side of the family,

0:29:010:29:04

so the deceased's father, George English Hawkesworth,

0:29:040:29:08

to see if he had any brothers and sisters

0:29:080:29:10

who may have had children, in turn, who would be beneficiaries.

0:29:100:29:13

Do you want to try him first?

0:29:130:29:15

Mike struggled to locate the birth certificate of George's father,

0:29:150:29:19

but after an exhaustive search through records,

0:29:190:29:22

Mike eventually found one, but it posed more problems than it solved.

0:29:220:29:26

Once we had the name of the father, George English Hawkesworth,

0:29:280:29:31

we thought it would be a relatively easy name to research,

0:29:310:29:34

as the combination is not particularly common.

0:29:340:29:37

However, we immediately hit a bit of a stumbling block

0:29:370:29:40

when it appeared that George was born illegitimately.

0:29:400:29:44

He wasn't born with the surname Hawkesworth,

0:29:440:29:46

he was born as George English McKinnon,

0:29:460:29:48

and the birth certificate states he was born illegitimately

0:29:480:29:51

to Sarah McKinnon, who would have been his mother.

0:29:510:29:54

With both George's parents unusually being born illegitimately,

0:29:540:29:58

all relatives are equally entitled.

0:29:580:30:01

Now they would have to change tack

0:30:010:30:03

and search for George Senior's original birth name of McKinnon.

0:30:030:30:08

This could mean a longer and more difficult search.

0:30:080:30:11

Yes, perfect. Thank you. Take care now. Bye-bye. Bye.

0:30:110:30:15

Eventually, they did manage to piece this complicated jigsaw together.

0:30:170:30:22

To be born illegitimate in the 1900s

0:30:220:30:24

was usually frowned upon by the majority of people.

0:30:240:30:27

It would have been a bit of a stigma attached to it,

0:30:270:30:30

which is possibly why, when she married Herbert Hawkesworth in 1917,

0:30:300:30:35

the mother of the deceased, Sarah McKinnon,

0:30:350:30:37

made George take on the name Hawkesworth as well.

0:30:370:30:41

George's grandmother, Sarah McKinnon,

0:30:410:30:44

married Herbert Hawkesworth on New Year's Eve in 1917,

0:30:440:30:47

in Paisley, Scotland.

0:30:470:30:50

George English McKinnon was just four years old

0:30:500:30:53

when his name was changed.

0:30:530:30:55

The marriage produced further children,

0:30:550:30:57

meaning the possibility of more aunts and uncles for George Junior.

0:30:570:31:02

From the marriage of Herbert Hawkesworth and Sarah McKinnon,

0:31:020:31:06

we established that there were at least eight half-blood siblings

0:31:060:31:09

to the father of the deceased, George.

0:31:090:31:12

We also quickly established that the majority of them

0:31:120:31:14

passed away as children. Five died relatively quickly

0:31:140:31:18

which, obviously, limited the potential for relatives to be found.

0:31:180:31:22

Mike's research finds that on George's father's side,

0:31:230:31:26

only one of George's aunts and uncles is still alive

0:31:260:31:29

and one cousin.

0:31:290:31:31

In total we've located around 18 beneficiaries.

0:31:310:31:34

We worked out that there were 16 on the maternal side of the family

0:31:340:31:38

and only two on the paternal side of the family.

0:31:380:31:41

It's quite rewarding to know we've managed to find

0:31:410:31:43

the rightful beneficiaries,

0:31:430:31:45

who will now benefit from George's estate.

0:31:450:31:47

Now the case is closed,

0:31:470:31:49

George's effects have been sent to his aunt, Mary,

0:31:490:31:51

who is one of his closest living relatives.

0:31:510:31:54

Look at the size of him! What is he like?

0:31:560:31:58

This must have been one of the official...

0:32:000:32:02

He shouldn't have been in that photo, look, he's so tiny.

0:32:020:32:05

..official dinners or something.

0:32:050:32:07

-He's funny, isn't he?

-Ah, that's nice.

0:32:080:32:11

-It is a nice one.

-That is lovely, actually.

0:32:110:32:15

Many of the photos and records Mary received

0:32:150:32:18

show the 15 years George spent as a tank instructor.

0:32:180:32:22

Maurice Ashley, a colleague from 1969, remembers his love of the job.

0:32:220:32:27

He made a very good instructor.

0:32:280:32:30

I did a course, once, when he was one of the instructors on it,

0:32:310:32:35

on a amphibious vehicle, and he was a very confident instructor,

0:32:350:32:41

which is probably why he did a lot of instructing,

0:32:410:32:44

back here in England.

0:32:440:32:45

Er, he was good at his job, yeah, very good at his job.

0:32:450:32:49

George's aunt, Mary, and her daughter, Carol,

0:32:490:32:53

have the medals from George's career -

0:32:530:32:56

a valuable record of the high esteem

0:32:560:32:58

with which he was regarded in his regiment.

0:32:580:33:01

"Corporal George Hawkesworth, for courage and decisive action

0:33:010:33:06

"in halting a stolen Chieftain tank."

0:33:060:33:09

So he got a commendation for stopping someone stealing a tank.

0:33:090:33:13

Yeah, yeah. Wow.

0:33:130:33:15

It's fascinating to see all the different photographs of George,

0:33:160:33:23

all his army friends, really nice.

0:33:230:33:26

Since George's relatives have all been found,

0:33:260:33:29

his friends are getting together to remember him.

0:33:290:33:32

George got a commendation.

0:33:330:33:35

I believe he was guard commander and a recruit stole a tank

0:33:350:33:39

and the guy didn't open the doors of the hangar.

0:33:390:33:42

He just drove straight through the hangar doors.

0:33:420:33:44

George jumped in the Land Rover with the duty driver

0:33:440:33:47

and hightailed it over the tank park.

0:33:470:33:50

But George climbed from the Land Rover onto the moving tank -

0:33:500:33:54

no mean feat for HIS physique - pressed the switch,

0:33:540:33:58

cut the engine and he dragged him out.

0:33:580:34:01

I think he spent the night in jail.

0:34:010:34:03

That's quite an honour, a general officer's commendation.

0:34:030:34:05

First I've heard of it. I didn't know anything about it.

0:34:050:34:08

Pretty brave man to do that, I think.

0:34:080:34:10

For his friends, George's memory lives on

0:34:110:34:14

through the times they spent together.

0:34:140:34:16

-Here's to George. Ta-ra, George.

-Cheers.

0:34:160:34:19

-You'll be missed by all of us.

-All the best, George.

-Cheers George.

0:34:190:34:22

-Cheers.

-Gone but not forgotten.

-Yeah, definitely not forgotten.

0:34:220:34:25

In London, the heir hunters have been on the trail

0:34:350:34:38

of heirs to the estate of Robert Radmall,

0:34:380:34:41

who died suddenly, with no known family.

0:34:410:34:43

Case manager Ryan Gregory already discovered one heir

0:34:430:34:47

on Robert's father's side of the family

0:34:470:34:49

and Managing Director, Daniel Curran, is on his way to meet him.

0:34:490:34:53

Daniel is going to go and visit the paternal cousin, Mr Radmall,

0:34:540:35:00

and we'll see what happens there.

0:35:000:35:03

We'll verify the information that he gave Ryan over the phone as well,

0:35:030:35:07

about the rest of the family tree.

0:35:070:35:09

Case manager Amy is still trying to establish information

0:35:100:35:13

about Robert's mother's side of the family,

0:35:130:35:16

his Aunt Margaret and Uncle John, to see what heirs exist there.

0:35:160:35:20

If there are none, Steven Radmall could be the only heir

0:35:200:35:24

with a claim to Robert's estate.

0:35:240:35:26

One of our travelling reps is on the way to see

0:35:270:35:31

whether the potential address I had for the maternal aunt is correct

0:35:310:35:36

and, if so, to try and find out

0:35:360:35:38

the missing pieces about the uncle, John Coles, as well.

0:35:380:35:43

Daniel has arrived outside the home of Steven Radmall,

0:35:430:35:47

who lives in West London.

0:35:470:35:49

The guy concerned is only one of a quite small family,

0:35:490:35:52

so he should know most people in the family

0:35:520:35:55

but it sounds like it's a bit disconnected and, with any luck,

0:35:550:35:59

he'll give me a bit of time to talk him through the case.

0:35:590:36:03

Several firms may have a look at it

0:36:030:36:06

and speculatively see if there's any heirs to be found,

0:36:060:36:09

so there's an element of competition.

0:36:090:36:11

At the end of the day, it's for the heir to decide

0:36:110:36:14

whether or not he wants to work with someone and, if he does,

0:36:140:36:17

hopefully he'll choose us to work with him.

0:36:170:36:18

It's a frustrating wait,

0:36:180:36:21

when other heir-hunting firms will be close on Daniel's tail.

0:36:210:36:24

No answer at the moment, so I'm going to ring the office

0:36:240:36:27

and see if they've got any updates or information.

0:36:270:36:31

Often, when the reps are going to see beneficiaries in person,

0:36:310:36:34

it can be quite frustrating.

0:36:340:36:35

People might not want to open the door to everyone that knocks.

0:36:350:36:38

Meanwhile, Amy is on the phone to travelling rep Stuart...

0:36:390:36:43

-Amy speaking.

-..who is at the home of Margaret Coles,

0:36:430:36:47

which Amy is hoping is Robert Radmall's aunt.

0:36:470:36:50

Oh, no! OK, OK. I'll go back to the drawing board then.

0:36:500:36:55

AMY LAUGHS

0:36:560:36:57

Oh, I thought that was finished. I'll go and see who I can find.

0:36:570:37:01

Speak to you later. Bye.

0:37:010:37:03

Unfortunately, she's not the Margaret J Coles I'm looking for.

0:37:050:37:09

Her parents were different to the ones that we're looking for.

0:37:090:37:13

She also didn't have a brother John or a sister Emmeline.

0:37:130:37:16

Now the hunt continues to find the birth certificate of Margaret Coles.

0:37:160:37:22

Amy needs to search records from the right period of time

0:37:220:37:25

with the right name and the right parents.

0:37:250:37:27

OK, it's going to be tricky without her birth, I think.

0:37:280:37:31

Ryan and Amy are hoping to find a Margaret Coles

0:37:310:37:35

without a middle name.

0:37:350:37:37

-How about this one? Plain Margaret Coles.

-Oh, yeah. Camden, OK.

0:37:370:37:42

Got taken into a care home. Died in the hospital, from a care home.

0:37:420:37:46

-That could be her, couldn't it?

-Yeah.

0:37:460:37:49

We could be dealing with a sole heir, if that's the case.

0:37:490:37:52

So, if the heir is still friendly with us,

0:37:520:37:55

like he was when I spoke to him, then we should be good.

0:37:550:37:57

Shall I give Daniel a call?

0:37:570:37:59

Yeah, see what he's actually doing and let him know

0:37:590:38:02

that he may well be the sole heir now, if he answers.

0:38:020:38:05

If this round of research turns out to be correct,

0:38:050:38:10

and Margaret has passed away and John has passed away,

0:38:100:38:14

both without marrying or having children,

0:38:140:38:17

it means that we now have a situation

0:38:170:38:20

where the sole paternal heir that we've found to date

0:38:200:38:23

will actually be the sole heir to the entire estate.

0:38:230:38:27

This could be an interesting meeting,

0:38:280:38:30

given that the estate has been valued

0:38:300:38:33

at a quarter of a million pounds.

0:38:330:38:35

Daniel's been invited into Steven's flat, but other people are arriving.

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Are they other heir-hunting firms?

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When you break the news of the death of a relative of someone,

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there could be a whole range of reactions.

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I've seen everything, from people being devastated by the news

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but, equally, you could have a fairly close relative,

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in terms of someone's mother or father,

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but they don't have any feelings towards it one way or another.

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-You're Steven Radmall, that's correct?

-Yeah.

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Can you just confirm your parents' names for me?

0:39:040:39:07

Nora Radmall and Ronald Radmall.

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So, the beneficiaries will be

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any surviving members of the Coles family

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and any surviving members of the Radmall family.

0:39:150:39:18

Now, you're an only child, I understand. Is that correct?

0:39:180:39:21

-Well, I...

-HE COUGHS

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Excuse me. I have a brother,

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but he's from my mother's first marriage so...

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-So, a half-brother on your mother's side.

-Yeah.

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So he wouldn't be entitled. He's not on the Radmall bloodline.

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So, there is a house.

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There's a property involved in Hemel Hempstead.

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-Have you ever been to Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire?

-I have.

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So it could be that you now have a share in this property

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and it could be, from the research we've done,

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you might even be the only heir to the estate,

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so it could be quite a decent windfall.

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This is probably one of the weirdest days I've ever had in my life

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and I think, if I told someone about it,

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they'd probably take me back to the loony asylum.

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It's a very interesting day.

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Steven hasn't seen his father for 20 years

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and, as he didn't play a large part in his life, he's keen to know

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if the heir hunters can tell him anything more about him.

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I grew up with my mum and my brother, yeah, so that was just it.

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My dad might still be alive. I don't know.

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No, your dad passed away in 2000, in the year 2000, in Barnet.

0:40:220:40:27

-He did?

-He did, yeah.

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We can get a copy of his certificate and send you that, if you'd like it.

0:40:290:40:32

-We can get copies of...

-What did he die of, do you know?

0:40:320:40:35

We can get a copy of the certificate and send it on to you.

0:40:350:40:37

-Can you do that for me? I'd like to see that.

-Absolutely.

0:40:370:40:40

We'll get a copy ordered from Barnet and send that on to you.

0:40:400:40:43

He died in 2000? I didn't know that.

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I try not to pre-empt or guess how the person may react

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and just deal with it in a sensitive but professional manner.

0:40:510:40:55

Steven then begins to tell Daniel about his daughter.

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She's got this thing called craniosynostosis,

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which is quite a rare disease. Not being a medical sort of guy,

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but for the first two years of your life,

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your brain and your skull grows together and there's a gap

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and one side wasn't growing so, eventually,

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the side that wasn't growing was going to die.

0:41:120:41:15

Basically, they got her into hospital very, very quickly

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and did the operation they had to do to save her life.

0:41:180:41:21

They basically took her skull out and made a new skull.

0:41:210:41:25

Steven is so passionate about the hospital's good work,

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he then makes a staggering admission.

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I'll sign anything to say I don't want any money.

0:41:320:41:35

I don't want to gain anything out of this.

0:41:350:41:37

Apart from Great Ormond Street seeing the benefits because...

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-..22, 23 years, I've seen...

-What they did for your daughter.

0:41:440:41:48

..what they've done for my daughter

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and they do it every day for so many young children, it's...

0:41:500:41:54

I don't want to start crying but it's really important.

0:41:550:41:58

-Yeah, definitely.

-You know.

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It's been an emotional discussion for Steven,

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so Daniel leaves him to contemplate all he has found out.

0:42:030:42:06

Do you a nice family tree and, fingers crossed, God willing,

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there'll be an inheritance for you at the end of the day.

0:42:110:42:13

-But it's lovely to meet you.

-Very nice.

-Good to see you, sir.

0:42:130:42:16

-Very nice to meet you.

-Best of luck.

-Been an experience.

-Yeah.

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Back in the office

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and Amy is having success ruling out any heirs on Robert's mother's side.

0:42:210:42:26

Although it's not conclusive today,

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it's looking more and more likely that this is the correct death

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for Margaret Coles, that she's a spinster without children.

0:42:340:42:37

Amy's suspicions were confirmed.

0:42:370:42:40

Margaret had no children and neither did John Coles, her brother.

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Steven Radmall is about to receive a very interesting update.

0:42:440:42:49

I really hope he gets the money. It would be really lovely for him

0:42:490:42:53

and he wants to do some good with it, so that's even better to hear.

0:42:530:42:57

And for those who knew Robert,

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his memory leaves another lasting legacy.

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I'll miss him, yeah, of course. I miss him every day.

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