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Today, the heir hunters are investigating a case | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
when it suddenly goes cold... | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
Both marry in Dartford, all coming out fine, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
but after that, they both disappear. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
..and the very large family tree they discover... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
-51, 52, 53... -..reaches out across the globe. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
On your stem alone, we have the US, Australia and Canada. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Another team are working hard on a case but it could all be in vain. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
The firm of solicitors who were appointed actually found | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
a will on this case. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
-Take a seat. -But for the families... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
It's crazy! | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
I think this is my favourite. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
..a transatlantic love story is uncovered. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
'British wives demand space on boats!' | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
In the UK, when a person with no known relatives dies without | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
making a will, any proceeds from the sale of their home | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
and possessions can end up going to the state. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
-Have you got her death certificate yet? -No. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Probate genealogists Finders have taken on the case | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
of a 90-year-old lady who passed away just four days ago. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
Her name is Doreen May Priddy | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
and her details aren't yet on the government list | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
of unclaimed estates. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Researcher Suzanne Rowley has been working on it for about an hour | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
and has already made some progress. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
I found that Doreen was married to a Priddy. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
So her maiden name was actually Lowen. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
She was born in Leicester but she passed away in the Barnet area | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
and her parents both passed away in Hendon, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
so they all seemed to move down to sort of the Hendon-Barnet area. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
The case was referred privately to the heir hunters. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
We're hopeful that there's no competition but, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
of course, you can't be too sure. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
It's one of those ones where we hope it's privately referred | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
but we don't know if anyone else may have come across the information, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
so we're going to work on it very quickly. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Spending her final years in a nursing home in Mill Hill, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
north London, Doreen spent most of her life in this leafy suburb. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
There were few people locally who knew her well. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Doreen's house is situated up quite a steep hill. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
We're about a ten-minute walk to shops. It's not far. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
It's a lovely suburb of London cos it's very green | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
and leafy, horses and fields, and it's very village-like. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
It's within easy reach of London | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
but you feel as if you're in the countryside. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
It's going to take a little bit more digging. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
With limited information to go on, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
the office have to work step by step through the tree. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
If her husband is still alive, he would be the first to inherit | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
then any children they may have had. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
I checked and it looks as though there's no issue | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
and her husband, Kenneth, actually passed away back in 1987. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
The next heirs entitled would be any siblings that Doreen may have had | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
or their descendants. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
Doreen's birth certificate gives the team her parents' names - | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
James MacDonald Lowen and Doris Ada Hammersley. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
With these, they are able to do a birth index search to see | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
if they had any other children. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
She actually had one brother named James. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
Um... Looking into James, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
it looks as though he passed away as an infant in the same year. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
I did another check | 0:03:37 | 0:03:38 | |
and it just looked like it was the two of them, so it looks as | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
though Doreen was sort of an only child after her brother passed away. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
This means the team will have to enlarge their search to find | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
any cousins of Doreen who may still be alive | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
or, if they've passed away, any of their descendants. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
To do this, they need to go back one generation to Doreen's grandparents | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
and they begin with her mother's side. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
-I can now focus on this one. I just wanted to check. -Yes. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Doreen's mother was Doris Hammersley | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
and the census records gave the team her parents' names. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
A search of the birth index records with both their names | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
will tell them if Doris had any siblings. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Now, it looks as though Doris was actually an only child, so | 0:04:18 | 0:04:24 | |
there'll be no further research into the maternal side of the family. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
So then, our entire focus will now be on the paternal family | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
in the hope that we can find some next of kin there. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
The deceased's father was a James MacDonald Lowen, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:39 | |
the surname, quite an unusual surname, and he was | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
the son of James and Dorothy, who married in 1892 in Leicester. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
The 1881 and 1891 census records show that Doris' mother, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
Dorothy, was working as a cigar maker in Leicester. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
At that time, Leicester was a thriving industrial town. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Records show around the 1800...end of the 1800s, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
almost 500 cigar factories across the whole of the UK, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
and in 1893, we can see | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
records of around 19 factories in Leicester alone. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
Almost exclusively, you'd find women working in the cigar factories. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
There's no machinery involved at any stage of this process. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
So right from the initial processing of the tobacco | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
through to the final finishing of the cigar, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
everything's done by hand. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
What seems extraordinary, in terms of production levels, is that | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
they produced a huge number of cigars. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
In Havana today, a roller would be expecting to | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
produce 100 cigars a day - | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
a good roller, maybe slightly more, but generally around 100. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
At that time, from the records I've seen, women could produce | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
up to 1,000 cigars a day. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
But, yeah. Certainly working very dextrously and very fast. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
This cigar museum in London was once the tobacco store | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
used by Winston Churchill. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
It houses some of the world's oldest cigars. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
They were manufactured in around 1851 for the Great Exhibition. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:22 | |
These would be the sort of cigars that would have been | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
manufactured in Leicester back in that time, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
a very small traditional shape, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
and it is extraordinary that there are two whole cabinets | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
of these cigars that survive. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Back at the office, Suzanne is checking the census records | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
to see if Doreen's grandparents, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
cigar maker Dorothy and her husband, James, had any other children. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
The deceased's grandparents married in 1892, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
so the next census available was the 1901 census, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
where we can see that they had five children. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
And to check if they had any more children after 1901, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
the team's next port of call is the 1911 census, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
but this record can't always be relied on for complete accuracy. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
On the census records prior to 1911, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
the information was input by a professional enumerator. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
This information was provided by the family | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
and they could make sure that it was correct | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
when they presented it to the Crown. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Now, the 1911 census was actually completed by | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
the head of the household and that does open us up | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
to many more mistakes in the details that have been input. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:39 | |
The 1911 census showed that Doreen's grandparent's brood had | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
grown from five children in those ten years. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
There was actually 12 in total. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Um... Nine of them were still living in 1911, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
so three of them had actually passed away as infants. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Suzanne noticed that, along with the 12 children, there was | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
another child living with them | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
who had been born before Doreen's grandparents married. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
It looks like she was born as Eva A Matthews. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
On the 1901 census, it lists her as a daughter, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
but in 1911, I think it lists her as a stepdaughter. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
The intestacy law for England | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
and Wales gives precedence to full-blood aunts and uncles. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
If there are any full-blood aunts and uncles or survivors thereof, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
then any half-blood aunts and uncles and their survivors | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
won't be due to inherit anything from the estate. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
So the descendants of half-sister Eva will only be looked at | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
if all the full-blood sibling lines of James Lowen have died out. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
That still leaves eight to investigate. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
Suzanne decides to enlist some help. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
So, if you look into the two stems of Nelly and Kenneth Lowen. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
Yep. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
They are siblings of the deceased's father. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
-Is that James? -So James. -Yeah. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
I need you to look at Donald and Eric Lowen. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
Amy Cox is given the task of looking into Donald Lowen, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
who appears on one of the census records, but not all. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
And he's not proving easy to track down. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
There's June quarter 1900, there's James MacDonald Lowen, and | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
then there's Eric, born in December 1901, so when is Donald born? | 0:09:18 | 0:09:25 | |
There's meant to be a Donald Lowen being born | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
but there isn't a record for it, so... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
There's James being born in June quarter 1900, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
which is the deceased's father, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
and then there's Eric Lowen born December 1901, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
and there's meant to be another son in between there | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
and I can't find him. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
So I think it's probably been transcribed incorrectly somewhere. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
Camilla's hoping to have more luck with Doreen's aunt, Vera. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
-This stem has completely died out. Can't find any issue. -OK. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
She passed away after him, so she left a will. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
So we've ordered that to see who she left it to. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
Amy seems to have worked out the mystery of the possible | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
eighth uncle, Donald Lowen. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Now I've looked at the actual census, there isn't... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
The deceased father isn't actually listed on this one, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
so we're going to assume that because he's James MacDonald, he's | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
down as Donald because that would put him at the right age as well. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
I can't see a James on there so I think that... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Cos there's meant to be 12? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
And there's only... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
-Oh, yeah. -So I think it may be missing someone. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
-Cos I think James would... -Donald... Yeah, Donald would probably... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
-James MacDonald, yeah. -Cos MacDonald... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. -So I think you're just missing a stem. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
Yeah, that would make sense as well. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Yeah, but there wouldn't be enough time for another kid to be born. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
-No. -OK, there we go. I'll carry on with Eric, then. -OK. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
The change on one census from a James MacDonald to just a Donald | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
is something you'd have to go with your gut instinct on. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
But one would assume that it was probably just a familiar name | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
for him or a nickname that his family gave him | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
but can easily be missed for somebody who isn't prepared | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
to consider that as an option. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
With the confusion cleared up, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
Suzanne still has seven siblings to find | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
and work out if they had children. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
She couldn't seem to find addresses for any of the three children. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
And coming up, it might not be that easy to speak with them. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Hello, is that Michael? | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
He hung up on me. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
When someone dies and leaves a property behind, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
the sale of a house and its contents will become | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
part of their estate that will be distributed among any heirs. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
In Chatham, Kent, professional house clearer Rufus Hirsch has just | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
arrived at a property that needs to be cleared before being sold. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
You do get a very good idea of the type of person | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
when you're clearing their house. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Obviously, it's a very intimate space | 0:12:07 | 0:12:08 | |
with all their personal possessions. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
You just tell from the sort of books they read | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
and the things they collected. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
The house belonged to a William Arthur Groombridge, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
a retired lathe engineer, known to his friends as Bill. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
In this case, there are lots of tools. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
There seems to be tinkering about with watches and clocks. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
But he obviously liked working with his hands | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
and was quite talented at it, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
and you start building the picture up from there. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Neighbour Patricia Hughes knew Bill for almost 30 years. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
I used to see Bill on a Wednesday morning at the bus stop. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
He was going to the SavaCentre to have a hot meal for the day. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
I found him a gentleman. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Always lifted his hat when he spoke to you. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
You don't see that very often nowadays. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Bill lived in this house for most of his life | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
and Glenys Barker was a neighbour for 60 years. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Most of the time that I would have seen Bill | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
was when he was in the garden. And even up until he was in his 90s, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
he still had a push lawnmower, not an electric one, a hand push, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
and his garden was always immaculate. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
Sadly, on 2nd November 2014, Bill passed away. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
OK, so this is the clock making its way to auction and, hopefully, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:36 | |
it will sell and generate a bit of revenue for the estate. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Without a will or next of kin, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Bill's estate was placed on the government's bona vacantia list. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
In London, heir-hunting firm Fraser & Fraser has taken it on... | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
They're not any part of this family, are they? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
..and Ben Cornish is the case manager. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
So when we initially looked at the sort of case, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
we realised quite quickly that Mr Groombridge owned his own property. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
Groombridge is a good name to work, so we knew it was going to be | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
competitive and we knew we had to start the case quickly. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
The purpose of the house clearance really is | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
to find out as much as can about the deceased, so we're looking for | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
any financial documents, any personal documents, letters that | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
may give us some clue about family | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
and also, most importantly, to see if there's a will there. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
So I've just found some paperwork | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
and in amongst it there's a copy of an old will. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
Doesn't seem to be anything to do with the deceased in this case, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
but you never know. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
All the paperwork and photographs will be taken to the office | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
for the heir hunters to sort through. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
The property's now nice and clear and ready to go on the market. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Back in the office, the team had made some progress with the case. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
We found a marriage for William in 1944 and that obviously means | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
that he could have had children. Even though he lived alone for many | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
years, it may be the fact that they would be the next of kin | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
and they've just sort of lost contact, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
but we later confirmed that he was divorced from his wife | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
and that there were no issue. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
The next in line to inherit Bill's estate would be any siblings | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
that may still be alive. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Neighbours remember he had a sister, Joan. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
She was always dressed to the height of fashion. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Always immaculately turned out | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
and I think she was the envy of all the women along here. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
He did miss his sister, who did an awful lot for him apparently, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
and she had died the previous November. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
I know he missed her dreadfully. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
To confirm this information, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
the team look at Bill's birth record which gives his parents' names - | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
Arthur George Groombridge and Emma Groombridge, formerly Williams. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:57 | |
We conducted a search of Groombridge's mother's maiden name Williams | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
and found one sister, a Joan Emma Groombridge, being born in 1927. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
She later married, but died in 2013 without children. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
With no more close relatives, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
the team needed to look for cousins of Bill and their descendants. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
Research manager Isha Adams kicks off this line of inquiry with | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
Bill's parents' marriage certificate. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Because Groombridge is a good name, it's not that bad, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
so on the whole, from 1906 to 2005, Groombridge to Williams marriages, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:30 | |
there's only six, although none of them are ours, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
so we knew there might be something tricky going on here. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:40 | |
The heir hunters' system only covers marriages in England and Wales, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
so Isha decides to broaden the search and starts in Scotland. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
Right. So there's only one match, so if we look at that. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
Yeah, so we've got an Arthur George Groombridge, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
although she's calling herself Mary Emma Williams. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
But what we'll have to do is get that certificate | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
in order to see whether or not it matches up with the other stuff that | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
we've found, so we can prove it or disprove it. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
If we can't find the marriage record, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
it does cause a bit of a problem, because there's so much information | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
tied up with the marriage record, it gives both parties' names, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
which really is crucial for our investigations. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
So I've got the marriage certificate and we have... | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
They married on 13th December 1916 in Greenock. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
The marriage certificate gave the ages of both parents, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
so the team could now look for their births. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
So starting off with Emma, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
we need to look for a birth of an Emma Williams about 1892, 1893. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:53 | |
Well, there's quite a few, because Williams is a very common name, | 0:17:54 | 0:18:00 | |
but I don't like any of them, they don't seem to be in area. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:06 | |
It's a bit of a mystery, because we couldn't really find a good birth | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
for an Emma Williams, so what we've done is we've done the trick of any | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
Emmas born that year, living in the area and we've come up with one, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
which is an Emma Bacon. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
With Arthur's mother appearing to be using two surnames, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Bacon and Williams, the team check the census records to see | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
if they had in fact found the right Emma. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
We found her mother living with David Henry Bacon and then | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
through the later census records, she assumed the name Williams | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
from her mother's partner. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
She was actually born under the name of Bacon. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Emma's mother was called Emma Hunter. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
During her marriage to David Henry Bacon, she had nine children, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
but only six of them had David Bacon | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
listed on their birth certificates as their father. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Three - Ellen, Lily and James - had no father listed, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
so although they took the Bacon name, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
as half-blood relations they were not entitled to Bill's estate. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
Sometimes we have to think outside the box to try and find | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
the right family and this is particularly tricky, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
because obviously we're looking at Williams. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
But the two youngest children, Emma and Elizabeth Rose, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
have the surname Williams on the census. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
Well, I've got both their birth certificates. David Bacon, Dad. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
Emma Bacon, formerly Hunter, Mum. So the father, the mother, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
the father's occupation are all the same. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
So we know that they are full-blood with the rest of the siblings. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
Williams is the name that they took on after their mum got together | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
with George Williams, but they were born as Bacon. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
It was just the one fluke that there was a Bacon on there that we were | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
able to search for that, otherwise, we'd probably still be searching now. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
So when we discovered that her name was Bacon and not Williams, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
it was a big breakthrough for us, because A, it was an easier | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
name to research and B, we were on the right track. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
To find out what happened to their father, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
the team ordered David Henry Bacon's death certificate. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
Now, he died in a workhouse. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
It's on age, it looks good, in the area, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
and the informant is somebody from the workhouse, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
which then tells us that he did die alone. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
So from the family fallout, we don't know whether the children | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
had contact with David Bacon any more, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
but this confirms that they were definitely separated | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
and he died alone. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
The team began to research the five siblings of Bill's mother to see | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
if any of them had children who would inherit. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
When they looked into his uncle David Bacon, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
another mystery emerged. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
David's marriage to Nora Sawyer had produced five children, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
but the records for two of them, Joan and Vera, seemed to be missing. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
Both born in Dartford, both marry in Dartford - all coming out fine. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
But after that, they both disappear | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
so we don't know what's happened to them. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
On some cases, people just disappear | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
and we have to really approach those with quite an open mind | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
and start thinking outside the box. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
The first thing that comes to mind is maybe they've gone overseas, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
so, you know, our first question is where did they go? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
So when they disappear, one of the best things to do is get | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
the marriage certificate, because they might be in the Army, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
or the Navy, so then, we can extend our search from there. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Now, on Joan's marriage certificate to John Darling, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:33 | |
actually we've got some good news here, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
because his profession is a gunman in the Canadian army. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
We know this is definitely correct, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
because her father is David Henry Bacon | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
and now we need to extend our search to Canada | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
to try and find some heirs. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
And it turns out that the man Vera married was a GI. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
The lack of records for both Joan and Vera after their marriages | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
pointed to the fact that, as war brides, they left the UK | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
at the end of the war to begin a new life with their husbands | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
in Canada and the United States. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Vera and Lewis married in 1945 and for Vera, really, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
going over to America after the war, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
it would've been a difficult transition. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
She went to Michigan, which was an area of the States that most | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
British people had probably never heard of and didn't know much about. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Really a lot of British girls, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
their perception of America was limited to Hollywood movies. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
They'd seen New York, they'd seen the beaches in California, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
they'd maybe seen Gone With The Wind, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
so they had a kind of vague sense of the Deep South, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
but everything else was a bit of a muddle. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
In total, 70,000 brides left these shores | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
for the three-week boat trip across the Atlantic. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
For Joan, who was already pregnant when her Canadian husband | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
John Darling was sent home at the end of the war, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
it was a long and difficult wait before she could join him. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
Their men had gone back home | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
and were settling back in with their families, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
and yet they were still waiting for passage to go and join them, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
and for many months it wasn't really clear what was going to happen. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
The US administration started saying it could be 10 or 12 months | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
before anything happened | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
and for a lot of these women, they were getting desperate. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
British wives eager to join GI husbands in America | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
demand space on boats. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
They began to stage demonstrations. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
WOMEN CHANT | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
They would picket the US Embassy in Grosvenor Square, in London, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
with women carrying placards that read, "We want our ships" | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
and little children on their shoulders with smaller | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
placards saying, "We want our dads". | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
My husband is Lieutenant Ned Cole from Santa Monica, California. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
We don't want to go to America | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
for all the glamour that we see on the movies, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
we want to go to be with them because we love them. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
When Eleanor Roosevelt came to London in 1945, her hotel was | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
besieged by angry war brides picketing and demanding | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
that she help them in their quest to get the US authorities to | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
arrange passage for them and she agreed to do what she could. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
And then in December of 1945, finally the US Congress passed | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
the War Brides Act acknowledging their responsibility to deal | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
with these women, offering them non-quota immigration status | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
and agreeing that they would be transported | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
at the US military's expense. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Joan settled well into her new life in Canada | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and went on to expand her brood, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
but her great-granddaughter Caitlyn | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
is about to discover the size of her family. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
On your stem alone, we have US, Australia and Canada. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
It's crazy, absolutely crazy. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Every year in Britain, thousands of people get a surprise | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
knock on the door from the heir hunters. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
It just seems a big miracle, so, you know, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
nobody ever thinks this sort of thing happens. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates on the Treasury Solicitor's | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
bona vacantia list that are yet to be claimed. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
The first case is Malcolm McDonald, who died aged 70 | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
on the 24th November 2007. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
He was born where he died, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
in Halifax, West Yorkshire, on the 9th August 1937. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
Malcolm's father was George Archibald McDonald, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
and mother Emma Louise Gill, both born in 1905. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
Emma sadly lost her mother shortly after she was born, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
and after being fostered, was given the surname Barber. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
At the time of her death in 2002, she was known as Emma Shooter. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Could there still be family links to Malcolm in Halifax? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Do you know anyone of that name? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
The next case is that of Hilda Gladys Martin, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
born on the 5th November 1905 in Hednesford, Staffordshire. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
She died on the 8th July 1988 | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
in Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, aged 82. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Her mother was Phoebe Florence Martin, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
born in Birmingham in 1886 with the surname Ball. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
She lived to 1980 and changed her surname by deed poll from Ball | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
to Martin in 1975. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
The surname Ball may be of early medieval English origin, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
derived from a nickname for a short, rounded person. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
It also may be used to identify someone who lived by a knoll | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
or rounded hill. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
Someone wishing to make a claim to us | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
will need to supply us with documentary evidence | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
to support that claim. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
That would usually be birth, marriage and death certificates. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
Do you know anything that could be the key to solving this case? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
If you think you might be related to either of these people, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
you would need to make a claim on their estate through | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
the Government Legal Department. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Once again, the names of the cases we're trying to solve | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
with your help today are Malcolm McDonald and Hilda Gladys Martin. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
London heir hunting firm Finders are on the case of Doreen Priddy | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
who passed away in November 2015 in Mill Hill, north London, aged 90. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:29 | |
Any chance we could get that information? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
I said I'd get back to him as soon as possible, if I could. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
In the office, Suzanne has found that as Doreen had no obvious | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
close kin and with no maternal side to work, all their hopes are | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
pinned on finding heirs on Doreen's father's side of the family. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
-I might have some more on this stem in Leicester. -OK. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
They've found Doreen's father was one of 12 children. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
Eight of James' siblings survived to adulthood. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
If they are still alive or had children, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
they could inherit a portion of Doreen's estate. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Holly's looking at one of Doreen's aunts, Monica. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
I found that she was married to a John Wordel in 1935 and | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
I found two potential children as well, so I'm just drawing it up at | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
the moment and then I'm going to have a look to see if I can find her sons. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
And Camilla thinks she's found the descendants of another aunt, Nellie. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
I can't find these two. At all. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
Shall I just keep looking? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
-Er...yeah, maybe move on to the next stem. -OK. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-Just so we can start speaking to some people and confirm. -OK. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
-And then they might know where they are. -Yeah. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
She'd found three cousins, once removed, of the deceased. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
She couldn't seem to find addresses for any of the three children. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
The team have found that Doreen's Uncle Eric died | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
when he was 42, but they need to check thoroughly that | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
he didn't have any children who could inherit. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
It looks as though he's a bachelor, never married | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
and most likely never had any children, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
so what we'll do for that one is, we had a look and there was no will. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
So we'll probably order his death certificate to see who the informant | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
is on that one, and then again speak to family members | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
to see if they remember Eric and can confirm that for us. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
Family information, you know, is as important if not more important than | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
the indexes we have access to. For instance, if someone's born overseas | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
or someone's adopted into the family, someone's adopted out of the family, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
there's all of these changes that could take place. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
If someone's changed their name, there's a whole host of reasons why | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
people may not be picked up in the searches we can only do | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
in the office. The only way we would locate them is by, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
like I say, speaking to everyone. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
But understandably some people don't like being cold called. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
Hello, is that Michael...? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
He hung up on me. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
So I'm going to leave it and try and speak to his brother later on today | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
and hope that that's got some more luck there. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Suzanne is busy striking the dead ends | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
from her list of possible heirs. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
So we've started with 11 potential siblings of the deceased's father. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:17 | |
We're actually now down to five | 0:30:17 | 0:30:18 | |
that will have potential beneficiaries on. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
With five stems to go and only a few hours in the day left, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
Suzanne's team are keen to get this wrapped up today. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Three possible beneficiaries, um... | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
..but I can't find addresses for them. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
I'll keep looking now that I know this one's completely died out. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
There comes to a point on everyone's family tree | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
where you have to swap hats from being a genealogist | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
to being a detective, if you like. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
We may know that someone was born and we have their birth index, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
we may even know that they've got married during adulthood. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
But then trying to find someone living | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
and to find out what their address is is a whole other job. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
I've left a message with both of them now, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
so hopefully one of them will get back to me later on today. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Now it's just a matter of getting the representatives | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
round to the people's houses, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
and to double check everything we've done and make sure it's all correct. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
Travelling researcher Palmjit has been on the road, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
hoping to speak to some of the beneficiaries the team has found. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
This is a follow-up visit to what we did yesterday, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
when we came to the house and we found nobody in. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
We managed to make contact with them | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
and they asked us to come back today to see them. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
He's meeting one of the descendants of Doreen's Aunt Elsie, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Valerie Sharp. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
-Hello. -Hello, is it Valerie Sharp? -That's right. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Related to the matter that I spoke to you about yesterday. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
-Can I come in, please? -Yeah, certainly. -Thank you very much. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
'Doreen is my cousin, once removed - | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
'she was my mother's cousin.' | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
So the name was always familiar, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
but I don't remember ever meeting her. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Valerie signed up that day | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
as one of the beneficiaries with the heir hunters. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
What was really interesting at this address | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
was that she was able to help us with our family tree, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
as they've already researched a lot of the background. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
And she was able to fill in a lot of the details | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
that we were missing, which is really helpful. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
My grandmother, Elsie, died... Well, my mum was only 12. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
So therefore their contact lost at that level years ago. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
So I know nothing of what went on when they got married, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
or even when Doreen got married - | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
the link had been lost by that point. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
It's quite a weird feeling to know | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
that you're a beneficiary to an estate that... | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Somebody that you've got no contact with over time. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
It does feel quite weird, and almost a bit of a cheat, really. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
But it'll be quite nice. Any funds... | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Cos my son's hopefully going to university next year, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
so the thought of being able to give him a bit extra to go through | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
university with would actually be quite a nice benefit. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
In total, the heir hunters found 14 heirs | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
who would be entitled to Doreen Priddy's estate. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
But, a month later, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
Suzanne has some news that could change everything. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
The firm of solicitors who were appointed | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
actually found a will on this case. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
We're just in the process of receiving a copy of the will | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
to find out exactly what the will says. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Whether it still goes to some of the heirs or whether it's invalid, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
um, we're not sure. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
One of the most rewarding parts | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
is to be able to provide them with a family tree | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
and maybe some personal mementoes connected to the deceased | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
and therefore connected to their family as well. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
And it can sometimes inspire them | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
to look further into their family history. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
The financial side is a benefit, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
but actually finding all this family | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
would actually be equally beneficial to me. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
I was aware that my grandma, Elsie, had a large... | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
Well, there was a lot of brothers and sisters. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
So this was quite nice, actually, to be able to see. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
Cos we did the family tree | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
and saw all these names that just mean nothing to me at all. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
So it was nice to be able to put them all together again. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
In London, heir-hunting firm Fraser & Fraser | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
have been looking for heirs to the estate of William Groombridge. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Bill, a lathe engineer, died in Chatham, Kent, in November 2014. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:21 | |
I think we all used to see him | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
go over to catch the bus every morning, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
and they're the sort of things that you miss. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
In their search for heirs, the team had discovered that | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
two of Bill's cousins had married Canadian and American servicemen, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
and had emigrated across the Atlantic at the end of World War II. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Every case is different, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
and you can never predict what's going to happen with the family. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
You know, there's obviously the birth record, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
but we have no idea, after that point, where they're going to go. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
One of the biggest factors that influenced families at the time | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
was obviously the war. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
Joan, who married a Canadian serviceman, passed away in 2011, | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
so her three children will become heirs to Bill's estate. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Joan's great granddaughter, Caitlyn, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
on a work placement in London, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
is keen to find out more about her English roots. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Take a seat, I can go through the family with you. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
Great - I'm looking forward to it. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
As you can see, the tree is very large. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
So large, in fact, that I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to... | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
get it all on the table at once, but we'll give it a go. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
Wow. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
And this is the stem | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
where your particular branch of the family descends from. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
David Henry Bacon was a maternal uncle of the deceased. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
He married Nora Sawyer in 1905 in Sevenoaks. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
A number of children, one of them being your great-grandmother, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
Joan Nora Bacon, who married John William Darling. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
It's really interesting. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:53 | |
I can't believe how big the family tree is, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
because my family, as I know it, is tiny. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
Like, just me and my grandparents and a few distant cousins. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
On your stem alone, we have, you know... | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
US, Australia and Canada. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
I didn't think that it would be this big of a family tree. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
I think I was expecting, like, a piece of paper - | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
like, "Here's your grandmother, there's you." | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
It's crazy, absolutely crazy. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
The team found that another sister of the GI brides, Miriam, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
had married Archie Jordan in 1932. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
They'd gone on to have two daughters, Diane and Christine. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
These cousins once removed of Bill's are both heirs. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
When I first heard from the heir hunters, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
I was really shocked hearing about William Groombridge, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
because I'd never heard of him before. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
You do feel a certain type of sadness | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
that this person has not been in your life, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
and I must be honest, it would have been nice to have known him. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
Although Christine was born after the war ended, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
her sister Diane's early childhood in Dartford was marked by the war. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
I was three years old when war broke out, and my dad went into the RAF | 0:37:07 | 0:37:14 | |
and my mum went to work on the munitions, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
so I didn't see an awful lot of them. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
I was really always with my gran and grandad, and Joan and Vera. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
It was horrific sometimes, cos... | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
when the bombs used to go off, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
it was like a really bad storm, you know, with thunder. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
But it was the real thing, it wasn't thunder. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
But, us children, we lived through it and we got used to it | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
and sometimes we didn't take any notice. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
As the war progressed, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
Diane became one of the four to six million children | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
that were evacuated to safety, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:54 | |
away from the dangers of their home close to cities. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
The morning I woke up, I saw my bag was packed | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
and we went to Dartford station, and we all had labels with our names on | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
and a gas mask case, and a case. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
And we got on the train and... | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
I can't remember waving to my mum goodbye, I was... Well... | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
so shocked. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
I went on my own, but I'd teamed up with three other children, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
and we went to a place called Millom in Cumberland, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
as it was known in them days. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
But it was a great shock, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
cos I thought I was just going out for the day | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
and coming back at night. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
I didn't... I mean, at my age, I didn't know what an evacuee was. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
With the developments in weaponry since World War I, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
the government were prepared for mass civilian deaths | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
and had made an advance plan. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
By evacuees, I have to say, anybody could evacuate themselves. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
You could move out of the... Called "bomb dodgers", basically. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
You could move out of the danger areas into safer places, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
but the government also had the Government Evacuation Scheme. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
For those people who the government thought were important, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
they'd be moved, such as children. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
The government would arrange it, the government would pay for it. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
So it didn't matter how poor you were, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
your children could be evacuated. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Many of these working-class children | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
had never been away from their parents, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
and this was happening for the first time in their lives | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
and it was heart-rending on both sides. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
Mother is feeling she's doing what she has to do to help her children, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
but hating it and the children themselves are thinking, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
"Why am I being sent away? What have I done to deserve this?" | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
Diane still has strong memories of her childhood experience. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
It was very sad. When I first got there, I couldn't stop crying. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
I didn't know anybody, and I was only young. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
It was a different way of life, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
it wasn't a bit like what I was used to. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
But, once I got used to it, I loved it, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
and I think it did me the world of good. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
It made me grow up probably quicker than what I would have done. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
Evacuee Diane and her younger sister, Christine, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
enjoy reminiscing about their childhood. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
-Doesn't seem true that it was 51 years ago, does it? -No, it doesn't. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
Look at that ugly little...! | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
Thank you(!) | 0:40:37 | 0:40:38 | |
I'm afraid we didn't know anything about that side of the family. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
We didn't even know that my grandfather had a sister. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
But we do now. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
It's so unfortunate that... | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
they didn't know us, because perhaps they might have enjoyed | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
being part of a bigger family. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:40:54 | 0:40:55 | |
-There's Nan and Grandad. -Ahh. -They are lovely. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
It makes me feel very sad | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
that we didn't know that we had all these relatives, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
because it would have been nice to have known | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
that there was some other family, other than just my immediate family. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
We've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine... | 0:41:21 | 0:41:27 | |
The team in London have managed to track down | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
all the heirs on the maternal side. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
..50, 51, 52, 53... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
54. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:38 | |
As you can see, it's a very big tree this side. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
But there were still more to uncover on Bill's father's side. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
So, on the paternal side, um... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
we know that his parents are Arthur Samuel Groombridge | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
and Elizabeth Huckstep. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
They married on the 3rd of February, 1889, in Strood. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
From this, we had to see whether or not Arthur had any siblings. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
The team found out that Bill's father had just one brother, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
William, who married and went on to have three daughters. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
All three had passed away, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
but all seven grandchildren were traced, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
and became heirs to Bill's estate. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
It was quite a challenging case, which makes it enjoyable to work. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
It's quite nice to sometimes have a case | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
that's not quite as it seems. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
So it was quite good. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
And that's my special favourite. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
In total, on both sides of Bill's family, the team found 61 heirs. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
Well, it is a surprise and I don't expect too much | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
because I'd have rather have known the person. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
It's sad that he hasn't got any children | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
who he could have left it to. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
I'd like a nice recliner chair. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
And, if there is the money there for a recliner chair, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
I could sit in it and recline and think, "Thank you, William." | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 |