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Today, the Heir Hunters reunite long-lost siblings... | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
They said, "We've found a great-niece." | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
And I thought... "I can't believe this." | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
..while uncovering a tragic secret. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
All my life, I wanted to know about my mother. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
I was 14 when he told me she was dead. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
And a race to find one man's heirs | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
is stalled when Heir Hunters discover a nomadic family. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
We hate working narrow-boatman estates, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
simply and purely because they were just so transient. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
It's a highly competitive business... | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
When you've got so many people to find, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
you don't know if the competition's ahead of you, behind you... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
..with millions of pounds waiting to be claimed. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Could the Heir Hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
In Scotland, something amazing is about to happen. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
We didn't know none of this. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Having travelled 9,000 miles from his home in Australia, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Ian Cunningham is about to meet his half-sister for the very first time. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
I wish it had happened 30 years ago. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
When we were a little bit more young and sprightly. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Until four months ago, Ian had no idea his half-sister existed. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
I've never met Christine. Bit of a shock to the system. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
This remarkable meeting of long-lost relatives | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
is thanks to the work of the Heir Hunters. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
From time to time, we end up telling family members, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
perhaps siblings or more distant relatives, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
about family members that they weren't aware of. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
It's quite nice to be able to bring people back together. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
There's a few sad tales out there. I've been one of the lucky ones. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Forrest. Do you have the file? | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
The journey to today's reunion began in 2015, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
when the estate of James Forrest was advertised | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
by the Queen and Lord Treasurer's Remembrancer in Scotland. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
It is essentially the Scottish version of the Treasury Solicitor. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
They deal with unclaimed estates | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
and intestate estates in Scotland. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Although the team didn't know the value of the case, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
they decided it was one they should work on. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
We looked into this case regardless. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Because of the advertisement, this was going to be a competitive case, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
whether or not value was known. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
James Forrest died in 2014 in the town of Wishaw, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
15 miles south-east of Glasgow. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
This is the courtyard where James used to like to come out | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
and sit in the good weather. Liked all the plants. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
James spent the final months of his life at the Beechwood Care Home. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
No photographs of James appear to survive, but his carer, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Thomas Connell, remembers him as a friendly if quiet man. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:01 | |
He liked his horse racing and he had pictures of famous racehorses | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
all over his walls. He told me a while back he was a heavy gambler, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
but he was down to the pound units and pound stakes. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
I think he worked in Ravenscraig steelworks. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
Blast furnace, I believe it was. Yeah. Blast furnace. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
The Ravenscraig steelworks operated from 1962 until 1992, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:24 | |
when it was finally closed down. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
During its peak, James would have been part of a team | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
handling just under one million tonnes of steel per year. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
The closing of Ravenscraig steel mill | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
signalled the end of large-scale steel-making in Scotland. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
I miss his character and I miss his conversations. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
I just miss James for being James, that's it. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Although James had close friends, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
there were no signs of any relatives. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
I said, "Did you have a wife and that?" And he says, "No, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
"I've no children. Didn't have a wife." | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Back at the office, the search for heirs was under way. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
This is the beneficiary we are hoping to get hold of. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Because the case had been released in Scotland, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Amy would be working with colleagues across the border. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
We have an office based in Edinburgh that we can pass work to | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
when any Scottish research comes up | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and they liaise with us here at the London office. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
The team quickly confirmed that James was a bachelor | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
and had no children. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
The next stage was to see if he had any siblings, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
which meant they needed precious information about his parents. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
The research we do in Scotland is made slightly easier | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
by the information available to us on the certificates there, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
so a Scottish birth certificate will give you, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
as well as the parents' names and the mother's maiden name, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
it will also have the full date of the parents' marriage, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
making it easier to narrow down an area and a family | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
that you're looking at. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
This allowed the team to quickly establish that James's parents | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
were James Forrest and Annie Bell. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
And it soon transpired that James had been their only son. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
Once we've established that there are no immediate kin, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
we then need to expand as quickly as possible | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
into how many maternal and paternal aunts and uncles there might be. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
The team needed to establish who James's grandparents were | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
in order to trace potential aunts, uncles and cousins, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
and their research took them back to the late 19th century. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
So, we know that we can look through the 1881, 1891, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
1901 and 1911 Scottish census returns. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
Now, from those, we have details | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
about the maternal and the paternal family trees to get us going. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
And on the maternal side, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
it looked like they were going to have their work cut out, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
as James's mother, Annie Bell, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
was one of ten children born to George Bell and Jeannie Hamilton. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
We knew that by 1911, we had two infant deaths, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
also a two further children that passed away without having married | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
or having had any children of their own. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
So, out of the ten total children, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
we then had five additional stems to investigate. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
But the team did have one thing on their side. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
A Scottish death certificate would usually give you | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
the name of the deceased's parents, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
which would help you to narrow down right away | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
onto a particular Bell family tree, for instance, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
because you could search using particular keywords. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
And that wasn't the only feature of the case | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
that was unique to Scotland. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
On the paternal side, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
the team has learned that James's grandfather | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
was also called James Forrest and had married an Isabella Girdwood. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
With the way children and descendants are named | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
within a Scottish family, you will find a repeat of certain names. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
So the names of James and Isabella will be repeated time and again, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
and also, as the generations follow through, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
you will notice that you pick up the surname of Forrest and Girdwood | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
again, particularly within the women of the family. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
These traditions can sometimes help the Heir Hunters | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
make a vital breakthrough. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
A prime example in the Forrest family tree is if we look at | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
the stem of paternal aunt Christina Forrest. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
She married a John Moffat, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
but her first-born daughter is Isabella Girdwood Moffat, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
so she's been given the name of the paternal grandmother. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
The team had now established that James's father had six siblings, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
one of whom had died as an infant, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
and they were also able to rule out one of his sisters, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
who died a spinster. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
So, the four remaining stems to look into were Christina, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
John, Isabella | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
and Jane, who was also known as Jeannie. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
One of James's and Isabella's daughters was Christina, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
who'd married a John McKay Moffat. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
They'd had one daughter, and in keeping with tradition, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
she had been named Christina Forrest Moffat. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
We searched into the stem of Christina Forrest Moffat, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
identified pretty early on a marriage for her | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
to a gentleman named William Young. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
From this, the team were able to search for possible births. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
We are able to tell that she'd had at least one child, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
a daughter named Christine. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
And so the next obvious step would be to try and trace Christine | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
and try and speak to her. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
A detailed search of records revealed that Christine | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
was alive and living near Glasgow. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
The team believed she was an heir to James's estate | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
and got straight on the phone. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Oh, yes, that's me at school. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
A long time ago! | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
For Christine, life was about to be turned upside down. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
I think I said, "Are you sure you've got the right person here?" | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
I was more interested in the family. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
Christine was brought up by her father, and life wasn't always easy. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
I can't explain it. He was a horrible man. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
He really was. Horrible individual. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
He didn't know how to be nice. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Christine never met her mother and grew up knowing nothing about her. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
All my life I wanted to know about my mother. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
I was 14 when he told me she was dead. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
But the Heir Hunters had discovered that it wasn't true. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
From time to time, we will come across situations | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
where somebody within the family has lied about a scenario. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
So, for instance, they've lied about a divorce, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
by saying that the parent has passed away. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
In fact, Christina Forrest Moffat had lived for another 26 years. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
And it was down to Amy and the team to break this delicate news. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
We've dealt with quite a number of shocking revelations here | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
and we have to be quite careful about any potential upset | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
that we might be causing. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Nonetheless, it was a huge shock for Christine. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
She died in 1973. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
So she was alive for quite a long time, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
and I could have got to know her, and, of course, I didn't. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
You know. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
And it seems Christine's father went to great lengths | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
to keep the truth from her. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
When I did go down to my grandmother's, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
she didn't tell me she was alive. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
But my father didn't want me going anywhere near, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
because he probably realised I would find out | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
that my mother wasn't dead, at that time. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
But as the Heir Hunters continued their research, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Christine was about to receive more shocking news. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Christina's eldest child, Christine, thought that she was an only child. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
Her father had told her that her mother died when she was very young, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
whereas in fact she had quite a number of brothers and sisters. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
For Christine, it was the start of an astonishing journey | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
that would change her life forever. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
I think it was quite wonderful to find out all these people, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
all these relatives. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
I have always thought that people don't make a will primarily | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
because it's an admission you're going to die. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
In London, heir-hunting firm Fraser and Fraser have taken on | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
the high-value case of Frank Padgett, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
a case that has proved a major test. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
It's a cauldron. You know, you're working under pressure, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
you've got lots of stems, you don't know how many, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
it's a big jigsaw puzzle | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
and you're slowly putting all the pieces together. And it's fraught. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
You know, it goes crazy. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Frank Padgett died in April 2016 | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
in the town of Coalville, Leicestershire. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
For many years, he worked as a gardener | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
and colleagues remember him as a quiet man. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
He kept himself pretty much to himself. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Always fairly a smart dresser, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
even though we were working in a manual situation. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
He was quite dapper in his ways, Frank was. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
Really professional in his job, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
wanted to do the best job he could. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
You know, he loved working outside. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
And always had a laugh with Frank, a really good guy to work with. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
His other habit was he'd whistle three bars of a tune, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
and continue it all day, he could do. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Or sing a couple of lines of a verse. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
He was a bit of a comic in that way. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
I'm not sure that there was any special lady at all. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
He was a bachelor through and through, to that degree. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Frank didn't leave a will, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
so his estate was picked up by case manager Dave Slee. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Valued at £75,000, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Dave and the team made finding the heirs their top priority. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
The Padgett estate, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
we knew fairly early doors that Mr Padgett owned his own property, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
so, of course, that means you can research the matter in the knowledge | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
that there's going to be some value to the estate. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
With such a high-value estate, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
the team knew that the case of Frank Padgett | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
would attract other heir-hunting firms. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
The fact that there is likely to be competition | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
from a number of companies, I had to pull in virtually everyone | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
in the company to research the matter. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
One of their first steps was to establish | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
some basic facts about Frank. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
I started telephoning neighbours and friends | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
to try to build up a picture about Mr Padgett. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
Dave's phone calls helped him to establish | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
that Frank had never married, nor had any children. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
So the next step was to search the birth indexes | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
to find out who his parents were. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Padgett is the surname and in that... | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
One, two, three... There's about a dozen Padgetts | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
been born in that quarter. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
And it shows in this column the mother's maiden name | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
of the child that is born and it's also Padgett, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
and because Padgett's a fairly unusual name, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
it's a fair indicator that that's an illegitimate birth. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Dave soon confirmed that Frank's mother was Betty Padgett. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
She had been just 22 when Frank was born | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
and there was no father listed on his birth certificate. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
The problem in identifying an illegitimate birth | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
is we lose some of our references. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
All of a sudden, you are now taking out one side of the family. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
There is no father. You can never prove who the father was. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
There's no record on the birth. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
So you're now limited to working just one family, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-the mother's family. -It basically reduces the chances of us | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
finding a beneficiary by 50%. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
So it is that much harder to do it and there's less family to find. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
But another conversation with one of Frank's friends | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
would complicate matters further. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
I got to speak to a person who was very friendly with Mr Padgett, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
who was adamant that Mr Padgett had been adopted. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
Having a legal adoption, we now have to look into the adopted family. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
It's no longer from the biological mother. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
And it's very, very important we discover this as early as possible. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
But Dave was about to make another dramatic discovery. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Mr Padgett died as Frank Padgett, and was born as Frank Padgett. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:32 | |
So this must suggest that of course, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
he was adopted by someone he was related to by blood anyway. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:39 | |
And Dave had a theory as to why that might be. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Many years ago, you would often find that if a young girl | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
had a child out of marriage, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
that the child would often be taken in | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
by her parents as their own child. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
There was only one way to find out if Dave's theory was right. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
You need the adoption certificate to start with, because, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
of course, you need to know who are the parties | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
that have adopted that child. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
When the certificate came in, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
they confirmed that Frank had indeed been adopted by the Padgett family. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
But not quite as Dave had suspected. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
What's unusual in the Padgett estate is that... | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
his mother allowed her uncle to adopt her child. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:31 | |
Now, this completely throws the whole equation on its head, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
because all of a sudden, from a legal standpoint... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
..Frank's mother, Betty, now becomes his first cousin. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
On the 21st of July 1931, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
one-month-old Frank was formally adopted by Betty's uncle, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Ernest Padgett, and his wife, Kate Williams. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
And the search for heirs now looked very different. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Even though unusually he was adopted by a blood relative, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
it changes the parameters of who is actually now going to be entitled. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
This means that the team would still need to look for heirs | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
in the Padgett family, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
but there was now a whole new branch to research. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Now, his adoptive mother, Kate Williams, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
though not related by blood in any way to the deceased, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
because he's now adopted into the family, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
her family, the Williams, will also become entitled parties. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
The common surname Williams | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
would be much harder to research than Padgett. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
It was more bad news for the team. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Kate Williams, the adoptive mother of the deceased, her father, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Francis Wood Williams, an unusual combination, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
he was actually a waterman. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Dave knew from experience that researching | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
the families of watermen could be a nightmare. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
We hate working narrow-boatman estates, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
purely and simply because they were just so transient. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
And they're really difficult estates to work. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Obviously, they were like the lorry drivers of their era. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Francis Wood Williams and his family | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
were part of a vital 19th-century network | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
that allowed materials and freight to be transported around Britain. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Canals were built between 1760 and 1830. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
They were the backbone of the nation | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
and the canals like the Grand Union Canal | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
in the Northampton area were the artery | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
for moving all the freights | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
north and south and east and west across the country. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
But life for watermen wasn't easy. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
We tend to think of a boatman | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
possibly as having a wonderful, outdoor existence. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
But a report by the Registrar General noted that actually, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
they had half the life expectancy of an agricultural worker. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
Everything had to be done within a space | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
no more than about six feet square. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
And their families were expected to work hard too. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Everyone was expected to play their part. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
Whilst children these days might be playing outside | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and having a good time, the children of that period | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
would be expected to pull their weight. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
And of course, they didn't have regular schools to go to, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
so a lot of them would have been illiterate. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
But they would probably know the numbers and all the practical skills | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
required to run and look after a canal boat | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
and all the issues that went with delivering freight | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
from one place to another. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
But the very nature of being watermen meant moving around. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
Because they were transporting goods from one place to another | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
and they were on the boats right the way throughout the day, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
they would actually live from day to day on the boats. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
They may have been registered in one local parish | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
when they were born, but then they would be off, and tracking them down | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
I think would be a real challenge. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
And the family's nomadic lifestyle was a major concern for Dave. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
You're dictated to what area you're researching | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
by the areas that the deceased was born in or where the parents married | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
or where the brothers and sisters were born and married. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
But with the family travelling up and down the waterways, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
would Dave be able to trace relatives and crack the case? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
Every year in Britain, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
thousands of people get a surprise knock on the door | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
from the Heir Hunters. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
-I was surprised. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
Very surprised. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
A visit from the Heir Hunters can bring life-changing news. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
So many questions unanswered. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Even though we've found out so much. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
But there are still thousands of unsolved cases | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
where heirs need to be found. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Today, we've got the details of two estates | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
on the Treasury's Bona Vacantia list that have yet to be claimed. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
The first case is that of Alfred Kellsall, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
who died a bachelor on the 10th of March 1992 in Uttoxeter, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
Staffordshire, aged 84. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Kellsall is commonly spelt with one L, not two. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
Do you recognise this unusual spelling? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
Do you know someone related to Alfred Kellsall? | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Could you be one of the heirs they are looking for? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
The next case is that of Kathleen Minnie Wayte. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Kathleen was born on New Year's Day, 1905 in Nottingham. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
She passed away on the 16th of June 1992, aged 87. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
Wayte is an unusual name, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
with fewer than 600 occurrences throughout the UK. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Do you know anything that could help solve the case | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
of Kathleen Minnie Wayte? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Perhaps you could be the next of kin? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-PHONE RINGS -Hello? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
In London, the team at Fraser and Fraser | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
were racing to find heirs to the £75,000 estate of Frank Padgett. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
But the discovery of nomadic ancestors had halted their search. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
The family all live on the narrow boat. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Mum has one child in Stafford and then the narrow boat, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
nine months later, is in a completely different | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
part of the country, where she has another child. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
Of course, that child has to be registered where it was born. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
Frank Padgett died in Coalville, Leicestershire, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
where he worked as a gardener for the local council. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Frank would be pruning these in the spring | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
and then later on in the autumn. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
He loved his garden, his gardening. He loved his plants. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
And his garden at home was just the same. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
Absolutely immaculate. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
And he kept everything pristine. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Just like he did himself. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
But plants weren't Frank's only passion. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
He was an avid season-ticket holder | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
at Leicester City at Filbert Street, as it was then. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
Right through I think beyond his retirement, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
he was still a Leicester supporter | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
and a regular attendee at home games at least. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
And in his earlier years, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
he probably used to travel quite a bit away as well. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
The noise would have been developing as he arrived, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
towards the bowl of the stadium. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
He would've emerged into the light here | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
and the whole crowd and the whole pitch | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
would have unfolded before him. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
Frank may not have married or had any children, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
but on the terraces of his beloved club, he had another kind of family. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
I'm sure that coming here every week, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Frank would have had a sense of camaraderie, a sense of belonging. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
You're in a crowd of 32,000 and certainly, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
when you do enter the ground and you feel the buzz | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
and you get the atmosphere and you hear the noise | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
and you see the colour and you talk to people around you | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
and you anticipate the game, you know, it is a wonderful feeling. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
As a lifelong supporter, Frank saw his club through thick and thin. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
When he first started coming down here in 1970, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
they'd just been FA Cup finalists. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
During the 1970s, they had a really entertaining side | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
with four England internationals playing for them. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
During the 1980s, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
he would have seen players like Gary Lineker and Alan Smith, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
who both went on to score a lot of goals, not only for Leicester City, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
but for England. And then, in the 1990s, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
he would have seen Leicester City get to Wembley on seven occasions | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
in nine years. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
And then, in the first decade of the 20th century, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
it all started going a bit wrong, really. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
They got into financial trouble, they went into administration, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
the club didn't have any money, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
they sort of went down on a downward decline. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
But in April 2016, when Frank passed away, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
Leicester City Football Club were well on their way | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
to one of the biggest sporting upsets of all time. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Leicester City went on this incredible run of winning seven | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and drawing one of their last nine games, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
which took them from seven points at the bottom to 14th in the table. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
This run was then continued into the following season, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
much to everybody's surprise. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Frank would have been aware of all of this. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
They were top of the table for a significant part of the season and, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
very sadly, he died in April, which was just, you know, | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
weeks - weeks! - away from Leicester winning | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
the only Premier League title | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
they've ever won in their whole 132-year history. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
For the Heir Hunters, the search for Frank's heirs | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
was proving a real challenge. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Josh, have the certs come in? | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
They'd established that Frank had been adopted by his great-uncle, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Ernest Padgett, and his wife, Kate Williams, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
and the team needed to trace their families to find heirs. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
So the first thing I did was I kind of broke the team up. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
One team worked the Padgett family | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
and one team now worked the adoptive mother's family, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
the Williams family. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
With competition from rival firms, it was tough staying ahead, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
even with all hands on deck. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
When you've got so many people to find, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
you don't know if the competition is ahead of you, behind you. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
Erm... Not easy. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
The Williams side was looking especially difficult | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
as Dave had discovered Kate's father worked as a waterman | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
and was likely to have moved around. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
So you could have brothers and sisters, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
and I've had it in the past, eight or nine children, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
literally all born in different parts of the country but, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
if you put them all on together as a map, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
it's the map of the waterways. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
But a check of the 1911 census offered a glimmer of hope. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
The father from an early age became a lock keeper | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
and therefore obviously was in one place and remained there, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
so all the children would have been born probably from that one address. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
We know that Francis Wood Williams became a lock keeper in 1906 | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
and by that time, he was in his late 50s, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
so he may have opted for a more gentle lifestyle. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
Although it was still a very physical job. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Francis Wood Williams would have done a number of things | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
throughout the day. He could've been running water, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
moving water from a higher level to a lower level. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
If that lower level was getting a bit shallow, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
he would put the windlass on here and then turn it round. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
He would then come over here, put his hands on here, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
and then push open the lock gate, open those gates, and away they go, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
off to market. It wouldn't have been a life of leisure for him, because | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
pushing something weighing anything up to two tonnes | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
is really quite hard work. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
But crucially for the team, lock keepers tended to stay in one place. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
So it looks very much like Mr Williams has progressed | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
from years of working on the narrow boats | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
and on the waterways to probably he's got older | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
and now he's become a lock keeper, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
entrenched in his little cottage, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
opening and closing the locks all day. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Consequently, the fact that the family had settled in one place | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
now meant the team could forge ahead with the research. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
On the mother's family, the Williams family, the deceased's mother, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Kate Williams, had six brothers and sisters. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
But they were far from home and dry. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
Williams is a common name | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
and there were more heirs on that side to trace. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
They managed to establish that one of the siblings was Lily | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
and her daughter, Joan, had four children who were still alive. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
Dave was hoping this was the pivotal breakthrough. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
It is a jigsaw puzzle where you get the first piece | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
and then that family member will lead you on to the next one | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
and your research will then lead you on... | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
So you're just building up, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
you know, this whole picture of the family tree. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Everything now rested on speaking to Joan's children, and Dave managed | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
to get a number for one of them. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
I've phoned thousands of people in the course of the years | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
I've been in the business, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
and I still get butterflies every time I phone someone. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
'You're phoning people out of the blue. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
'They don't know who you are and it's often that first 10-15 seconds | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
'that you've got to convince people' | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
that you're genuine and that this is a genuine matter. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
All right. I'll speak to you later. Bye-bye now. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
On the other end of the line, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Mervyn Hall was about to receive news of an unexpected inheritance. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
The only person on that side of the family tree | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
that I knew of was my grandmother. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
I didn't know she'd got a sister. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
I didn't know anything about her parents and I certainly didn't know | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
that her sister had adopted Frank Padgett. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
So that was all new to me and it caused me to contact other members | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
of the family that I hadn't spoken to for years. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
We all started pooling information at that point, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
but realised it was quite a mystery. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
None of us knew about Frank Padgett at all. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
It was the first we'd heard about it. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
But Mervyn, an amateur genealogist, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
knew plenty about his own branch of the family. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
This is me here and this is my mother, Joan, Joan Boen, as was. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
Her parents, James Boen and Lily Anne Williams. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
Lily Anne Williams, my late grandmother, died young in 1938. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
She was only 45 and that was quite a traumatic event for my mother. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
I only have two photographs of her | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
and this one shows her holding her baby son, Clive, who's still alive. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
He's my uncle. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
It was her sister, Kate Williams, that adopted Frank Padgett. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
Mervyn's research was invaluable to Dave and his team | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
as it helped them confirm | 0:30:16 | 0:30:17 | |
that the research they'd done into the Williams family was correct. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
So here we have the Williams family. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
Erm... Over 30 beneficiaries entitled. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
On the paternal family, the Padgett family, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
there are, I believe, 11 heirs. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
So over 40 beneficiaries entitled to varying shares in the estate. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
In total, the team had found 41 heirs, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
and finding Mervyn meant that they'd beaten rival firms to the chase. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
And only a few miles from where Frank Padgett lived and worked, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
his distant relative, Mervyn, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
has discovered a whole new side of his family. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Well, to me, Frank Padgett's still a bit of a mystery. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
I think the very sad thing is that he lived out his final years | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
and he died without knowing that he had some relatives, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
albeit distant ones, not very far away from him. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
In London, a team of Heir Hunters were trying to find heirs | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
to the estate of James Forrest, who died in July 2014, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
but the search was developing into a major task. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
This one is a family with lots of children involved, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
lots of maternal aunts and uncles, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
and so you can imagine that they span across maybe 20 or 30 years | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
between the birth of the eldest and the birth of the youngest. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
So, as you're coming down through the generations, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
you can of course expect them to have children of their own | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
and children of THEIR own. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
So you can imagine that the family trees very quickly expand | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
and you can be dealing with | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
potentially tens or even hundreds of beneficiaries. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
But research into one branch of the family had also revealed | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
a heartbreaking secret that meant heir Christine | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
had never known her mother. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
My dad told me my mother died when I was 14, which was a lie. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
And, of course, I would never have forgiven him for that. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
I think that was a horrible thing to do | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
because I never got to know her, you know. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
I should have been able to get to know my mother. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
But the revelations didn't stop there. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
The team discovered that in 1953, Christina had a second marriage | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
to a man called Edward Donnelly in Birmingham. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
Any children they'd had would be Christine's half-siblings | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
and heirs to James Forrest's estate. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
We were able to make contact with the eldest child from that marriage, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
Maureen, and she was able to confirm that her mother had three children | 0:32:52 | 0:32:59 | |
with her father, Edward Donnelly. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
It was a big development for the team | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
and Maureen was the next person in the family | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
to be getting life-changing news. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
We received a letter through the post | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
saying that a relative had died. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
I didn't know who his name was, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
although the name Forrest did ring a bell because it was my mum's name | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
before she was married. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
But the biggest surprise for Maureen | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
was the news that she now had a half-sister, Christine. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
They said, "We've found a great-niece." | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
So I said, "Who would the great-niece be?" | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
And she said, "Your mum's daughter." | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
So I looked and I thought... "I can't believe this." | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
Having settled in Birmingham and started her new family, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
Christina had never spoken of her previous marriage | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
or the fact she'd had to leave behind another daughter. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I loved my mum, she was a good mum. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
I just knew that whatever reason she had for doing it, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
she'd done it for the right reason. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Going through life, she was always a quiet woman. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
You always think she was worried about something | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
and somebody knocking on the door, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
as if she was always looking for an answer, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
and that's what I remember about my mum. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Now, though, Maureen had found out she had a half-sibling, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
and in 2016, the sisters met for the first time. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:20 | |
We had a lovely day with them all. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
That was that, that was the beginning of it for us. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
And she explained everything and told us her life story | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
and we told her how we had been brought up as kids. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
But there was to be one more dramatic revelation for the family. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
Once we establish what the position is, we will let the family know. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
Amy and the team discovered that before marrying Maureen's father, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Christina had settled down with a man called Robert Cunningham | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
and had two more children. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
But sadly for Christina, it all went wrong. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
Christina Roberts' relationship broke down and their youngest child | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
was put up for adoption when he was roughly three years old. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
At that time, society took a very dim view of single mothers | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
and it's unlikely Christina had any choice over what happened next. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
These were two brothers who were separated from the family | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
when their parents split up. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
One of them was adopted out of the family, which isn't uncommon, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
but the other boy was actually shipped overseas on a work scheme | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
to Australia, where he was put to work on farmland. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
By today's standards, I think that would be unacceptable | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
and unimaginable. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:37 | |
After World War II, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:40 | |
over 3,000 UK children were sent to Australia as part of an agreement | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
between the two governments. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:46 | |
The children were aged between three and 14. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
The Commonwealth Child Migration Scheme | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
was a scheme set up originally in this country | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
to sort of send over children that Britain just didn't want. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
And up until 1967 there were over 150,000 children | 0:36:00 | 0:36:06 | |
that were sent over to different countries. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
And it was thought by charitable organisations | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
that sending them to places within the Commonwealth | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
would give them a fresh start. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
The children, when they got there, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
they found themselves in institutions | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
and they also found themselves as servants for farmers | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
and working on things like roads and buildings. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
One of the children sent out to Australia | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
was Christina's elder son, Ian Cunningham. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
He was just five years old when he arrived and was taken | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
to a place called Fairbridge Farm. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
They taught you to milk cows, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
round up sheep and all this business. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
That was 40 hours for ten shillings. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
They said we were learning something | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
but I think they were earning something. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
Ian was desperate to find out whether he had a family and, if so, | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
where they were. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
I just thought, "Well, I'm here to survive," and... | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
..I noticed as I got five, six, seven other kids in my cottage | 0:37:06 | 0:37:12 | |
they were getting in touch with their mothers. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
Their mothers would come and visit them | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
and I thought, "What's happened to mine?" | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
When he reached 16, Ian was able to leave Fairbridge | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
and he joined the Navy, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
but the questions over who his mother was remained | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
until finally, in 2004, he was given the chance to get some answers. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
Around 2000... | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
..this lady called Margaret Humphreys | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
came on the scene and she approached the British government | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
and they started putting funds into the Child Migration Centre | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
and things certainly snowballed from there. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
A scheme called the Australian Migrant Trust | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
was set up to try and reunite people like Ian with their families. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
Researchers from the scheme had managed to trace Ian's half-sister, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
Maureen, and they began writing to each other. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
"As I grew up I always felt there was something missing in my life. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
"I went to bed at night and, like many other child migrants, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
"stared into the darkness asking the same questions - who am I? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
"Where was I born? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
"Did I have an aunt or anybody? | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
"These were the nights when the tears rolled down my cheeks, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
"but no-one ever saw them. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
"After all, I was a Fairbridge boy. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
"And Fairbridge boys go..." | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
-CRYING: -I can't read this. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
12 years ago, Ian and Maureen met in the UK for the first time | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
and started to repair the hurt from being separated. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
Maureen was the first one to get in touch with me | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
in 2004, so three or four weeks later I arranged to fly. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:47 | |
And when he came, he was just an absolute nervous wreck, obviously. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
He never knew anything about us and we were expecting him to come, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
but there were sort of three of us and one of him and... | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
..it was just lovely to see him. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
I found a family after being on my own for 40 years. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
So, really supporting, so I'm very grateful for that. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
But like Maureen, Ian was about to find out | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
he had another half-sibling. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
He had heard from our research and from Maureen about | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
the elder sister Christine | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
that they had previously been unaware of and he asked us | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
to put him in touch with her. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
I didn't know she existed... | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
for... What's that? 56 years. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
Now, though, Ian has travelled to Scotland with Maureen | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
to meet Christine for the first time. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
Her husband Gordon is driving them to the house | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
and Ian is worrying about what to say. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Can you suggest something? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
No, just go with the flow, just go with the flow. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
Naturally if you don't meet someone after 30 or 40 years, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
-Maureen, you're going to be nervous. -I know. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Looking forward to seeing them, yeah. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
And hoping we get on! | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
After 57 years of heartbreaking separation, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
these siblings are about to meet for the first time. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
-Hello. -Hi there, I'm Chris and you're Ian. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
-Ian, yeah. -Lovely to meet you. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
-Heard a lot about you. -You look lovely. -Oh, thank you very much. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
Lovely to meet you. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:33 | |
It is. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
-After how many...? -How many years? -Yeah. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
-Good to see you. -Yeah, you too. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Good to see all of you. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:45 | |
Well, we've all survived. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-Yeah, we have. -That's the main thing. -You look remarkably well. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
That's lovely. Aw, thank you. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
-There we go. -Are these both for me? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
-Of course. -Aw, thank you so much. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
That's lovely. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
I'm so lucky, do you know that? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Because I've met up with all of you. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
Ian and Christine can now begin the long process | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
of catching up with each other, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
and with the only photograph of their mother that exists | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
they're looking for a family resemblance. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
I sort of had that thick, cropped hair like Chrissie. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
Maureen's is more thin. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
It's pretty blurred as it is. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
It came out of a locket, of course. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
But the chance to be united with long-lost family | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
is the greatest gift of all. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
Meeting all of you has helped enormously. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
It's a wonderful thing for me. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
For sure. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
-That's why I flew over. -I'm glad you did. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
I'm glad you all did, because it's been wonderful. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
In the office, after several weeks' work, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
the team had managed to wrap up the search for James Forrest's heirs. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
All in all, once our research was complete, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
the estate of James Forrest had 35 beneficiaries. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
But this is a case that has been about more than just tracing heirs. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
It's quite nice to be able to bring people back together. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
It's one of the more pleasing sides of the job. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
It's a softer side and we're... | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
To me, it feels like we're giving something back. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
And for Christine, Ian and Maureen, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
it's the start of a new chapter in their lives. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
If it hadn't been for the fact of this poor chap's story, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
we would never have known we had a sister. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
Well, I hope we both live to 100. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
So I can see her some more. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:51 | |
It's just lovely to have a family. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
I mean, I can't... I can't believe this. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 |