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Today, the heir hunters uncover a colourful past... | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
The bearded priest is unidentified - | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and, of course, it's Frederic. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
..tainted with moments of sadness. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
And I think he blamed himself for what happened. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
For the deaths of two of the children, yeah. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Whilst on another case, the team are tested to the limit. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
As a researcher, there's only one thing worse than a commonly | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
occurring surname, and that's when someone with that surname | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
marries someone else with a commonly occurring surname. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
It's all in a day's work for the heir hunters. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Some cases reveal the most fascinating | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
facts about a family's history. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
His personal life was quite tragic, in some ways. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
It would seem that the marriage didn't work out. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
And delving deep can uncover long-forgotten family secrets. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
So, this is the case of Geoffrey Elliot Wilson. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
It's the case file from upstairs, so let's have a look. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
When Fraser & Fraser took on the case of Geoffrey Wilson, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
they quickly realised it could be a valuable estate to work. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
When we started looking into the case of Geoffrey Elliot Wilson, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
it became apparent pretty quickly | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
that the deceased owned his own property, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
which means there is going to be good value for us to work the case. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Based on the property values in his road, in Peacehaven, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
we think the property could be in the region of about £280,000. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
The hunt was on - | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
and the first thing case manager Ben and his team | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
needed to do was establish some basic information about Geoffrey. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
So, one of the first things we all do when we're | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
looking into a case is contact neighbours, to see if they had | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
any knowledge of the deceased which can help us out with our research. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
Geoffrey Wilson died in East Sussex on the 27th of May, 2016. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
For years he shared his house with his mother, Mary, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
and he continued living there after she died in 2014. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Neighbour Maureen Madden found Geoffrey to be a nice | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
and friendly man. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
I've lived across the street from Geoffrey for seven years now. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
He was a very good neighbour. A very quiet man. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
He looked after his mother when we moved here first. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
She lived with him. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
Sadly, she died about two or three years ago and he was on his own. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
And we used to talk to him, and ask him how he was getting on. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
So he was a very good neighbour, yes. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
There are no known photographs of Geoffrey, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
and Maureen says he generally kept himself to himself. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
Geoffrey was a very quiet, private man, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
but very pleasant to talk to. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
He had a sweet little face. He had nice twinkly eyes. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
He used to go to a pub in Newhaven, by the river there. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
He used to go there regularly, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
so I guess it was a pub where sailing people met. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
But although Geoffrey may have been reserved, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
his absence has certainly not gone unnoticed. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
Quiet, sincere. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
A gentleman. I think he's missed from seeing him around. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
He was part of the community, though he didn't do things with people. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
He was somebody who was there. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
We used to enjoy our little chats with him. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
And as I said, he will be missed in the street, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
because he was a good neighbour. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
So we're sorry that he's gone. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
In the office, Ben had been able to glean some valuable | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
information from Geoffrey's neighbours. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
We've soon discovered that he was never married, had no children. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
Next, the team had to find out if Geoffrey had any siblings. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
Geoffrey Elliot Wilson was born the 22nd of October 1949 in Hackney. | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
The son of Leslie Percy Wilson and Mary Wilson, nee Towerzey. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
They married in 1940, in Barnet, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
had one other child, a Gillian Lesley Wilson. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
If Gillian was still alive, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
she would be the sole heir to Geoffrey's estate. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
But sadly, that wasn't the case. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
She predeceased in 2010. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
So, that's the point where we decided to go back on the paternal, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
maternal lines of the family. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
But early signs weren't good. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
There are no heirs on the paternal side of the family. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Erm, the deceased father was an only child. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
This meant the team's chances of finding heirs were immediately | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
halved, and all hopes now rested on Geoffrey's mother and her family. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
Mary Towerzey was born in 1918, in Islington. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
She was the daughter of an Ernest Towerzey and Edith Bunn Marshall. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
Erm, they married in 1896, in Colchester. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
The next question for the team | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
was whether Ernest and Edith had any more children. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
So, the maternal grandparents had a number of other children. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
The deceased's mother was actually the youngest in the family. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
The eldest daughter was a Mabel Victoria Towerzey, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
born in 1897. Next, there was an Ernest Howard Towerzey, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
who was born in 1903 in Southwark. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Then there was Elisabeth Maude Towerzey, born 1906 in Shoreditch. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
John Towerzey, born 1908 in Shoreditch. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Thelma Towerzey, born in 1914. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
And Jack Towerzey, born in 1915. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Ben was quickly able to rule out one stem, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
as Mary's brother, Ernest, had died a bachelor. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
However, research suggested that Mary's remaining five siblings | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
all married, and had children. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
A child, other than the deceased's mother, was Jack Towerzey. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
He married a Kathleen Denney in 1939 in Billericay, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
and had one son. Next, there was a Thelma Towerzey. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
She married a Sydney Nichols in 1934 in Islington. They had one child. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
The team had made a flying start to the research, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
but their hunt for heirs was about to be thrown off course. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
So, when we started to research the stem of Mabel, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
that's when our problems really started. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Mabel Victoria Towerzey was born in 1897 in Colchester. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
She married a Frederic Charles Harrington in 1915 in Pancras. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
The couple married during the First World War, and at the time, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Frederic was serving with the second Battalion London Irish Rifles. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Frederic's had quite a complex war. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
He's had four months on the Western Front at Vimy Ridge. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
He's then served in Salonika for probably five months. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
And then he is sent out to the Far East, he's been in Egypt, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
and fought his way through Palestine against the Turks. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
So he's had a whole series of tough campaigns. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
It seems the toll of fighting in so many battles over such | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
a sustained period proved too much for Frederic, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and he was discharged nine months before the end of the war in 1918. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
He would have been exposed to artillery bombardment, machine guns, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
sniper fire, and that slowly erodes your capacity to cope. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
It uses up your mental energy. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
To cope with life in the trenches, the men developed strong bonds, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
and would often use faith to guide them through their darkest moments. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
The common mechanism is prayer, because it's a dialogue with God. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
It distracts you from what might happen, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
and it appears to confer some protection. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
But for men like Frederic, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:05 | |
the horrors of the trenches were compounded by new types of warfare. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Gas was the new horrific weapon of the First World War. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
It was considered inhumane, terrifying, a misuse of science, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
and so the post-war narrative tends to be dominated | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
by the use of chemical weapons. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
And so any veteran who isn't functioning well - | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
who has some medically unexplained illness - | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
tends to have that attributed to the effects of gas. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
It's believed Frederic was one of the many men | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
to suffer from gas poisoning. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
However, that may not fully explain the reason for his discharge. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
In February 1918, he is described as being medically unfit, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
he is evacuated to the UK, and is put on light duties. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
And that kind of suggests a diagnosis of shell shock. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
One way they'd cope with their distress is to somatise it, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
to convert it into a physical symptom. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
So it's very common in the '20s and '30s for veterans to suffer | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
from stomach cramps, indigestion, chest pain - they are the | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
classic symptoms of shell shock in the interwar period. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Despite the traumatic effects of his time on the front line, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Frederic had survived the war, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
and as the heir hunters were about to discover, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
he and wife Mabel went on to have more children. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
We conducted a birth search from that marriage, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
and found seven potential children. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
But as the team started looking into these children, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
they made a tragic discovery. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
We realised that Monica and Moya had passed away in infancy. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
Moya Harrington was born in 1921, and passed away in 1923, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
and Monica was born in 1924, and died in 1925. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
It's always quite sad when we discover tragic infant deaths | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
in the cases that we work. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
In this case, there were two that died, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
and they were not even four years old. So, very sad for us, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
and, obviously, we don't know the situation at the time. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Ben now turned his attention to the remaining children, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and was able to make quick progress. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
One of them was still alive, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
and there were two other siblings that she had, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
who had passed away that left children. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
There was a Patrick, who was the eldest. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
Patrick Harrington, who married a Winifred Edwards. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
And then there was an Eileen Veronica Harrington, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
who married a Hall. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
The team were also able to rule out Francis, who had died a bachelor, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
which just left the stem of Wilfred to crack. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
But there was an issue with the seventh child, Wilfred Harrington. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
We couldn't find any record of him alive, or having married, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
or having passed away. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Although Wilfred was listed on the census, the fact there was | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
no other trace of him was a concern for the team, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
but ordering in a key document would prove invaluable. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
So we purchased the birth certificate, and we realised | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
that he was actually Wilfred Besant. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
What happened was, is that Mabel went on to have another child | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
with a Wilfred Besant. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
It was a surprising development, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
as Mabel was still married to Frederic Harrington, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
and it posed some problems for the team. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
Children born out of wedlock is quite unusual, but it does pop up | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
every 30 to 40 cases that we look into. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
And it's a real headache for us, because we need to identify | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
who they are, and where they belong in our family tree. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
The team now wondered how many more children Mabel had had | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
with Wilfred Besant. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
They started by scrutinising the birth certificate | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
of Wilfred and Mabel's son. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
On the birth certificate, what we have, first of all, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
when and where they were born. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
So in this case, it's the 21st of March, 1929 in St Pancras. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
And we have his full name, which is Wilfred. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
We have the name of his father, which is Wilfred Besant. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
And the name and surname and maiden name of mother. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
In this case, we have Mabel Victoria Harrington, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
formerly Towerzey, a restaurant waitress. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Then it goes on to list the occupation of Wilfred's father, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
and that is of a hotel waiter. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
And as the team dug deeper into Mabel's relationship | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
with Wilfred Besant, the case entered a new dimension. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
The bombshell in this case was that Mabel Towerzey had six children | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
by Mr Harrington, and then went on to have three further children | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
by Wilfred Besant. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
With the family tree turning into a web of increasing mystery, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
would the team ever be able to find the rightful beneficiaries? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
When the heir hunters take on a case estimated to be | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
close to half a million pounds, the stakes are always high. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
You know, if we can get the chance to come and see you, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
and take you through some of the family history, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
that would be really good. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Today, the race is on to track down and sign up the heirs | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
to a potential £419,000 fortune. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
He hasn't signed with any competition as yet. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
In the London offices of heir hunting firm Finders International, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
the team is working at full speed as three new cases have come in. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Today, there's been quite a few ads on the BB lists today. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Now, I've had one in with the name of Carol May Chase. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
Now, she passed away in October this year. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
Now, we know that she owned her property when she passed away, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
and we know that she was married. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
Her maiden name was Hughes. So, initially, when we picked up | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
this case, it could be quite a tricky one with that surname. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Carol May Chase, who was a widow, died on October 1st, 2016, aged 76. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:29 | |
She passed away in a hospital close to her home in Wallasey. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
As I'm going out about ten to eight, the ambulance came down the road. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
And another neighbour who saw her said | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
"Well, we don't know what it was all about". | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
She walked into the ambulance. He then got a phone call to say | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
they were moving her to Broad Green, and she died that night. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
So it was all very sudden, and it was a shock. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Although she'd not lived in the area long, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
Carol had become the life and soul of the local community, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
and is remembered fondly for her love of life. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
She'd been up here for just on two years, and had joined | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
a tap-dancing group, pilates, and she'd always done | 0:15:13 | 0:15:20 | |
Scottish country dancing, so she joined a group here. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
She used to go off to Scottish balls, and what have you. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:30 | |
Yeah, very active and talkative, to say the least. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
And Carol also kept an interest in her former work as a teacher. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
One of the ladies who'd been at Saint Edmund's with her said | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
she was a great one for reunions. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
So she always went to their school reunions. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
Carol owned this house on the Wirral, and with an estimated value | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
of £419,000, the team know this is a major case | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
that will attract the competition. They need to work fast. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:08 | |
I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a increased sense of pressure | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
and priority when we think a case is going to be more valuable. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
Obviously, this means that not only we stand, as a company, to earn | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
more money on the signatures we obtain from the beneficiaries. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
And no-one is feeling the pressure more today | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
than case manager Suzanne, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
who is trying to piece together the history of Carol's life. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
She previously lived in Plymouth with her husband. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Unfortunately, her husband passed away in Plymouth, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
and it looks like she then moved back up to where she was from | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
in Wallasey, and bought a property there. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
Initial investigations suggest that after the death of her husband, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
she probably had very few ties to the Plymouth area. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
Her and her husband didn't have any children, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
so this means we're having to look at whether she had | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
any siblings at all. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
So we found that she was an only child, so we've had to look | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
at both maternal and paternal families. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
Now, we've taken a look into the maternal family. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
The surname's Glennie, so that looks very good to work with. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
However, there's just one sibling of the deceased mother. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
Now, he passes away quite early on, so he's only 23 when he passes away. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
There's no heirs on that side at all. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Turning her attention to the paternal side, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Suzanne is struggling to tie down the right family. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
We're looking into the Hughes family. Now, it's proving to | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
be quite difficult, as the deceased's father, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
he's born in 1912. Now, this means that we can't | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
find his family on the census. Luckily, I've picked him up | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
on the 1939, which has given me his parents' names, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
and a brother and a sister. So, that's really a great start. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Making progress, Suzanne has established that Walter's parents | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
were Frederick Hughes and Amy Pritchard. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
We're doing a Hughes and Pritchard birth search in Birkenhead. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Now, that's throwing up loads and loads of possibilities. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
There's actually one with the first name Frederick, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
and one with the first name of Amy. Now, the parents' names | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
are both Frederick and Amy, so initially, when you first | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
see those names, you think, "They're both their children". | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
But looking more closely at the birth register, it's clear | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
to Suzanne they were only born three months apart, so can't be siblings. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
With the estate estimated at close to half a million pounds, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
rival companies will also be racing to find heirs, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
so Suzanne needs to decide which line to eliminate, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
and which to focus on. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
Making the wrong choice could spell disaster. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
With the pressure on, Suzanne makes her decision. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
Amy dies a spinster quite early on, so I think I'm just going to go | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
with Frederick's line and just wait for the certificate, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
and just hope that it's right. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
And the arrival of Frederick's birth certificate | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
shows Suzanne's decision was right. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Had a possible Amy or Frederick They're both born in the | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
same year, and both parents were named Amy and Frederick | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
-OK. -So we've got that one back, and | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
that's incorrect, so we definitely know that this line's right. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Suzanne has managed to establish that Carol's father, Walter, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
was the eldest child born to Frederick and Amy Hughes. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
His sister Emily's death as an infant has brought | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
her stem to a close. However, Walter's | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
three other siblings, Frederick, Stanley and Dorothy, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
could have had children. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
These would be cousins and heirs to Carol's estate. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
All right, thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Just as they're making progress, a new twist spells disaster | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
as they try to descend Dorothy's stem. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
She marries a Jones. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
So I've picked up the marriage to a Leonard Jones in 1940 in Wallasey. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:24 | |
So that's a Hughes-Jones birth search, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
which is impossible. There are so many in that area, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
and it's really close to Wales, as well. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Hughes and Jones are the most common names in Wales. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
If Suzanne has any chance of staying ahead of rival companies | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
on this high-value case, she has no alternative | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
but to continue down the more costly and time-consuming route. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
It's simply impossible to really work without any certificates. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
So it's a bit of a nightmare. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
We're going have to order loads of certificates locally. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
Now, we've got an agent who's already on his way | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
to go and pick up some certificates. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
The certificates that we need to order are going to cost us | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
quite a lot of money in terms of the volume of documents we'll need, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and just in terms of the speed in which we find heirs, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
it's going to be a lot longer than if that didn't occur. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
So, hopefully, that can give us a bit of a head start. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
But there's no guarantee that they'll make it | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
to the register office first. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Every year in Britain, thousands of people get a surprise | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
knock on the door from the heir hunters. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
I was quite surprised, little bit shocked to find out | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
that I had a long-lost relative who's passed on. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
As well as handing over life-changing sums of money, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
the heir hunters work can bring long-lost relatives back together. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
I was surprised. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Very surprised. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
But thousands of estates have eluded the heir hunters, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
and remain unsolved. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates that are yet to be claimed. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
Could you be the person the heir hunters have been looking for? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
First is the case of Frank Laird, who died on July 22, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
2013, in Salisbury, Wiltshire. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Born in Scotland, Frank is thought to have siblings living | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
in Australia. His estate was advertised by the Treasury's | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
Bona Vacantia Department but so far, no-one has come forward | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
with a valid claim. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Is there a chance you're related to Frank Laird? | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
Next is the case of Marion Elizabeth Alton, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
who died March 20, 1987, in Salford, Manchester. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
However, it's not known where or when she was born. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Marion was the widow of Frederic Alton, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and the name Alton has strong links with the counties of Lancashire, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Yorkshire, and Derbyshire. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Are you an Alton? Do you hold the key | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
to unlocking an estate that could be worth a fortune? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
If so, you could be in line for a surprise windfall. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
In London, heir hunters at Finders International | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
are in a nonstop race against rival companies | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
on the case of Carol Chase. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
Her estate is worth close to half a million pounds, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
and will have attracted the attention of the competition. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
76-year-old widow Carol, from Wallasey, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
had died unexpectedly in the autumn of 2016. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
Full of life and active to the end, Carol left a lasting impression | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
on all who knew her. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
She was a character, let's put it that way. She will be missed. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
But I think it was the suddenness that shocked us all. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
The team have had to act fast, and dispatch a travelling | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
researcher to get a number of records in person. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
In the meantime, the search is gathering pace, as the team | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
look into the siblings of Carol's father, Walter. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
-So we've got the certificates. -OK, so now we can find more people | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
without having to do "Oh, I see a Hughes-Jones." | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Dorothy's stem is on hold, as she married a Leonard Jones, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
and it's impossible to work this line without documentation. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
So the team turn their attention to Walter's brothers, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Frederick and Stanley. And a closer look at Frederick's | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
wife's name reveals a startling coincidence, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
and another potential stumbling block. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Now, he actually marries a Jones, as well, so again | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
it's another Hughes-Jones birth search in the Birkenhead area. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
He dies in Holywell in Wales, so it's all very close, I think, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
and Jones in that... | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
Jones in Wales is simply impossible to work without certificates. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
With Frederick and his sister Dorothy marrying Joneses, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
pinning down the right heirs is going to be extremely tough. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
But there's one more uncle left to research. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
So the final stem on the Hughes side is Stanley Hugh Hughes. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
Now, he passed away in '74. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
Now, we're not sure if he married. There's three potential marriages. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
I think I've ruled two of them out, linking to different | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Stanley H Hughes, and I've gone with Regina Graham. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
Now, she dies in 2005. I've ordered that death, as well, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
in hope that the informant is listed and maybe there's | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
a daughter or a son. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
So we'll be getting certificates all in today. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
Our representative's gone down to the registry office to pick them up, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
so we're hoping they'll be in hopefully around one or two today. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:08 | |
With time ticking, the pressure is on for the heir hunters. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
The certificates are in, and it's all hands on deck as they pick up | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
the line descending from Frederick Norman Hughes | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
for a second time. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
And the hard work is paying off, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
as Suzanne makes a breakthrough, and finds two of Fred's daughters. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
She quickly makes contact. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:27 | |
Your husband's brothers and sisters that are living, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
and then also I'll see if I can find their children, as well. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
For Suzanne, the information is vital in helping her establish | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
who Frederick and Lillian's children are ahead of the competition. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
Now, out of the eight children, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
one had passed away as an infant. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
Frederick and Lillian, both named after the parents, passed away. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:59 | |
Frederic had five children, and Lillian had two children. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
These certificates led us to crack a Hughes-Jones stem, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
and locate 12 heirs. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
With 12 beneficiaries stemming from Carol's uncle Frederick, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
every precious moment counts if the team are to locate | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
them all, and sign them up before their rivals. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
It's all hands on deck. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
We know that any potential competition looking at it | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
are going to be putting more resources into it, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
so we have to pull everyone together, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
we have to fight harder, if you like, to get signatures | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
from the heirs and to find everybody in the quickest time possible. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Can I get you to take a look at a couple of stems for me? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
With the end in sight, Suzanne still has to establish | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
if Carol's uncle Stanley and aunt Dorothy had children. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
We ordered the certificate of Stanley's wife, Regina Hughes. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
It came back into the office, and as the informant, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
we though a family member was listed, so that was perfect. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
We might do, hopefully. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
But things aren't that straightforward, and the name | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
on the certificate is that of a family friend. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
The team contact her in the hope she may have some knowledge | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
of the Hughes family. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
She was actually able to provide us with a lot of family information. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
Stanley and Regina had two boys, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Trevor and Glyn, and they'd both unfortunately passed away, as well. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:30 | |
So I think they were fairly, fairly young when they passed away. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
They were only in their 50s. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
But despite having died relatively young, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
they both had one daughter each. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Today, travelling representative Parmjeet is on his way to visit | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
Deborah, who is Stanley and Regina's granddaughter, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
and Carol's first cousin once removed. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
Hello, Debbie, nice to meet you. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Let me just come in. Let me show you the family tree. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
-OK. -This is the family tree. It's a bit long! | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
-OK, we'll start from over here. -OK. -That's Carol, who's passed away. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
Her dad was Walter Pritchard Hughes, and he was a brother | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
of your grandfather. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Your great-grandfather was Frederick, and then | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
he had one, two, three, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
-four, five children. -OK. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
Out of one of those, one was an infant death, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
and the other ones are... Some are surviving. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
Those who are not their children are beneficiaries. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
You can see we've got a number of beneficiaries there. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Your line is just the two, then we've got Dorothy, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
who's got two, then we've got Frederick, who had eight children. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
-Right. -And out of those, Frederick's | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
passed away and he's got one, two, three, four, five children. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
And Lillian's passed away, and they've got two children. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
I don't know how much you knew about your family. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
I don't know a lot on my dad's side at all, to be honest. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
-Yeah. -Because he died when he was 51, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
and didn't really talk a lot about them, and I thought | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
it was just me. My dad passed away when I was... | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
27, and not long after, everyone else did, and then | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
I thought it was just me. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Shocked by the discovery of this new-found family, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
Deborah tries to piece the puzzle together. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
The relatives that I knew about were my dad, Glynn, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and my uncle Trevor, my nan, their mother, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:46 | |
and Trevor's daughter, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
I knew her when I was at school. My dad, he had MS, and sadly | 0:30:50 | 0:30:57 | |
passed away when he was quite young, and Trevor passed away not long | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
afterwards, and then not long after him, my nan passed away. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
With most of her close relatives gone, the call from Suzanne | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
caught her unawares. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
It was a big shock when she started coming out with... | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
I mean, I'd never even heard of Carol. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
The more she went into it, the more... It's exciting, isn't it? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
It's just... mind-blowingly exciting | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
that something like this could happen, and, you know, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
I get to discover there's more out there now. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
But now Deborah's got over the initial shock, she and her family | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
are enjoying learning about the Hughes family tree. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
My husband just thinks it's brilliant, and he's | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
really made up for me. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
Can I keep a copy? | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
We'll send you another. This is an edited version only. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
OK. Yeah. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
But once we've finished it all, you'll be able to get a full copy. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Oh, brilliant. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Back in the office, all the loose ends are being tied up, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
with 16 beneficiaries having been traced to Carol's estate. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
We were able to get representatives out to see them, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
and they all retained our services. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
So that just shows, you know, how good it is to get | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
certificates in on the same day from registry offices. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
And Suzanne's hard work means the world to heir Deborah. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
It's made me want to find out loads more about my family. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
I instantly started to look online at the time, and I really | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
successfully traced my mum's side, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
way back to my great-great-grandparents, but | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
I've failed a bit on the Hugheses because it's a very popular name. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
And in Liverpool, there's a lot of Hugheses. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
What's happened now is a new lease of life, really, to try | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
and rekindle that family connection I have again. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
You know, raise a toast to Carol. You know? | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
In London, the team at Fraser & Fraser | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
were trying to find heirs to the £280,000 | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
estate of Geoffrey Wilson. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
Do you know what? That's probably why we couldn't find him. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
Research into Geoffrey's mother Mary's family had thrown up | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
a curveball for the team. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:19 | |
Mary's sister, Mabel Towerzey, had married soldier | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
Frederic Harrington in 1915, and they'd had six children. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
But now it transpires she'd had more children with a man | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
called Wilfred Besant. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
So when we discovered that Mabel went on to have another child, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
Wilfred, we then thought, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
"Maybe, did they have any other children?" | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
So we then used that combination of Besant to Towerzey | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
but we've had no trace, so we think, "Well, maybe she's | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
"playing around with her names," and in our experience this can | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
happen, so we've then just decided to have a shot in the dark, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
and see if there's any Besant to Harrington births. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
And we've got two in the same sort of area, in London City - | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
a Colin born in 1930, and a Mavis born in 1931. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
But a key question remains - why had Mabel gone on to have | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
more children with Wilfred, while still married to Frederic? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Research into Frederic's remarkable life | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
would provide a possible answer. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
From a young age, Frederic had been deeply religious, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
and in his mid-teens, he took his faith in a new direction. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
I think about 16 or 17, like some people at that period, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
he converted to Orthodoxy, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
and in those days there weren't many Orthodox Churches around, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
so he was received at the Russian Orthodox Embassy Chapel | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
in London in 1897, so he became Orthodox then. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
From 1899 to 1918, Frederic served in the Army, fighting in both | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
the Boer War and the First World War. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
But after being discharged, it seems Frederic then | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
dedicated his life to his religion. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
His Christian faith was something that was very important to him. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
He was a good man, a man of prayer, a kind man, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
who cared about other people. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
During the 1920s, it's believed Frederic spent time | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
in Africa, spreading the word of the Orthodox Church. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
He'd spent his childhood there, he'd spent his early youth there, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
he'd worked there, and he clearly had a rapport with African people. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
He also spent time in India. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
When he was in India, there were people who needed to be | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
prepared for baptism, there were people who'd been converted, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
and he was helping to assist them. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
They were quite large numbers, so this was a task that he took on. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
By the late 1920s, he returned to London, and became an | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
active member in what is now known as the British Orthodox Church. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
The British Orthodox Church is a Church of the Orthodox tradition. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
We've derived from the consecration of our first bishop | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
from Syria in 1866. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
Our task is actually to bring orthodoxy to British people, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
because we see orthodoxy as being universal. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Frederic was ordained, and set up his own mission to help | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
the poor of Islington. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
He saw things on quite a sort of sensible scale - | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
he had the idea of missions going off, sort of | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
household services, people going round dealing with the problems | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
of poverty, and the area where he was in Islington, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
in those days, was quite a sort of poor area. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
His tireless work earned him a lasting legacy. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
He was highly respected in the church, and although he'd | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
been dead long before I was born, people still spoke of him | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
with affection, and there were people who knew him personally. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
Some people called him "The Poor People And Children's Bishop", | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
because he was seen around the streets in his robes. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
But Frederic's worldwide travel seemed to take its toll | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
on his marriage. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
His personal life was quite tragic in some ways. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
It would seem that the marriage didn't work out, there were issues | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
there and so his wife left him and went off to live | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
with someone else. But he was a loving father, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
and it's very interesting that his son Patrick | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
remained very close to him. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
In the office, the heir hunters have made a sad discovery | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
about Frederic's wife, Mabel. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
In 1934, her life had been tragically cut short. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
She dies aged 37, she has seven children alive. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
Mabel's early death was a potential problem for Ben and the team. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
So around that time when Mabel passed away, if the father didn't | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
have the resources to look after the children or if the family | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
couldn't help out, the extended family, that is, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
the children were probably put into care. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Ben's suspicions were soon confirmed. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
When we find out that a family have been put into care, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
it's more difficult for us to confirm our research. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
They've obviously been disjointed over time, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
they've lost contact, or they just have no knowledge about certain | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
events in their family or potential relations. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
So...very difficult for us to research. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
Despite this hurdle, the team were able to trace the descendants | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
of all of Mabel's children, and it wasn't long before they began | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
finding potential beneficiaries. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
We've got children we've got there... | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
Three of them were Leslie, David, and Michael, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
the children of Frederic and Mabel's eldest son, Patrick, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
and when Ben delivered the news, it brought up some difficult memories. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
I think it was to do with my grandmother. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
Because my grandfather was away out of the country a lot of the time | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
when he was on business. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
She got involved with somebody else, and had three further children. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
It was all going on under the nose of my grandfather. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
He didn't know, because he was away a lot in all sorts | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
of parts of the world. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
Tragically, their father Patrick also remembered the deaths | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
of his two young sisters, Monica and Moya. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
Two of the sisters died. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
One was burnt, and the other one fell down the stairs. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
And they was only one, three years old. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
So very young, you know. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
I get upset myself thinking about it, you know? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
-Dad was looking after the children, really. -Yes. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
One of the older children, looking after the younger ones. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
Yeah. And I think he blamed himself for... | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
For the deaths of two of the children, yes. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
It seems this disruptive upbringing explains why Leslie | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
and his brothers had never heard of the deceased, Geoffrey Wilson. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
The war and the break-up of our grandfather Frederic's family... | 0:40:10 | 0:40:18 | |
effectively broke the family into pieces, and we knew nothing | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
-about that side of it. -Yeah. -I suppose that's fairly common. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:29 | |
After a tricky search, Ben and the team had now managed | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
to locate a total of 23 heirs to the £280,000 estate | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
of Geoffrey Wilson. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
The most important thing on the case of Geoffrey Wilson is that | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
we've reconnected the family. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Not only on the stem of Mabel, but generally | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
the whole family. And so it's going to be | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
an eye-opener for everyone once they have a copy | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
of that family tree. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
And it's actually the church library as well, which is really good... | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:01 | |
Hello. Welcome. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Lovely to see you. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
But for Leslie, David and Michael, a new journey is beginning. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
Becoming heirs has made them want to find out more about their ancestors, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
especially their grandfather, Frederic. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
And today, they've arranged to meet Seraphim. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
The thing that also is important for us, of course - | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
we've got this pastoral staff, which is interesting because always | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
the tradition was that your father made it for Frederic. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
-Yes. -And, in fact, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
it was interesting because it passed down, and my predecessor, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
when he was consecrated as a bishop in 1944, he used it | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
on that occasion. And when I was made a bishop | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
in 1977, I also used it. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
So it's been something that's been passed down. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
-Was he skilled with sort of making things? -He was a cabinet-maker. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
Oh, he was a cabinet-maker? But I'm surprised he didn't carve it, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
then, really, because, in a way... | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
And Seraphim has some interesting things to share. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
Somebody wrote a book about a religious community that came | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
into the link with Frederic, but it didn't come to anything. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
But there's a picture in it, and it says, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
"The bearded priest is unidentified," | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
and of course, it's Frederic. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
Inside, he's annotated it in pencil. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
This is the picture that, as I said, is the companion, and there's | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
-that one, as well. -Oh, yeah, I've seen that one. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
You've seen that one, yeah? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
Meeting Seraphim has given the brothers the chance to connect | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
with the grandfather they barely knew. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
-Super, lovely. -Thanks very much. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
It's been a very interesting visit. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
He's provided a lot of answers to the questions | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
I've been having for years. I just can't imagine how he got | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
the time to do it all! | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
Going round the world, you know... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
Different places. Just amazing. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
I've learned so much, and one of the difficulties, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
of course, is the more you know, the more you realise you DON'T know. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
There's lots and lots of gaps, and lots more questions | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
but hopefully we can fill in some more of those gaps. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 |