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Today, two cases that could potentially be worth a fortune.

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Found a NatWest account.

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We're talking a considerable sum of money.

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Life-changing.

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When you work a case and it turns out to suddenly have value,

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it's always a bit of a shock.

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But that leads to every heir hunter's worst nightmare.

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We had to really make sure that we had the correct family,

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because his names weren't matching up.

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This potentially could disinherit all of the people we had previously

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contacted and render possibly months' worth of work useless.

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It's all in a day's work for the heir hunters.

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In central London, case managers Ryan Gregory and Amy Moyes

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from heir hunting firm Finders

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are on their way to visit a flat which belonged to Victor Hubbuck,

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who passed away in May 2016.

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Today's visit is crucial because they are looking for information

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that could have a dramatic effect on Victor's case.

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It's twofold really, partly to build up an idea of the estate value,

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but it's also to look for a will.

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All of the work we do up until this point,

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it's all completely at our own risk.

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If we go into Victor's home now and we come across a will,

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all that we'll be taking out of this is the benefit of being able to

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-provide relatives with a bit of family history.

-Yeah.

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Victor Jonathan Albert Hubbuck passed away on 20th May, 2016,

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in a nursing home in London, aged 83.

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There are no known photographs of Victor and his neighbours say

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he kept himself to himself.

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Ryan and Amy are hoping the search of Victor's flat

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will also give them an insight into his life.

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In visiting a house clearance, you come across all sorts of items that,

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here in the office, we just wouldn't have access to.

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What they're interested in, hobbies they might have had,

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all the sorts of bits and pieces of information that relatives might ask

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when we're making contact with them.

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-This is the one, isn't it?

-This is it.

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KNOCK ON DOOR

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-Hi, Michael.

-Hi.

-After you.

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How long have you guys been here?

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About ten minutes.

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OK.

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Ryan and Amy have joined probate lawyers Michael and Christopher

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who are assisting with the search.

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Have you found anything since you've been in here?

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No. We've just started.

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OK. Getting the opportunity to visit the last known address

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of a deceased person is not something, as a case manager,

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we get to do very often.

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It opens up the possibilities for us to find out some information about

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someone who's passed away,

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hopefully glean a bit of information that otherwise may be lost.

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He was obviously a table tennis player.

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And also chess.

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Victor owned this flat, thought to be worth around £400,000.

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As well as a will,

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the team are also looking for signs of any further value to this estate.

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Do we know what was his profession?

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A key indication being Victor's line of work.

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Yeah, here we are. He was getting a pension from Royal Mail.

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Oh, so, he worked for the Royal Mail.

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But so far, there's no sign of any will.

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If a will does turn up, I mean,

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this potentially could render possibly months of work useless.

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Just this guy, really, who is the hardest for us to do.

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The house visit is just the latest stage in a case the team

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have been working on for just over a month.

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As Victor passed away with no known will,

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the heir hunters were called in.

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This case was referred to us privately.

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There was a limited amount of information

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in the original e-mail to us.

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With Victor leaving a property worth around £400,000,

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Ryan was concerned the case

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may have also caught the attention of rival firms.

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Just because the case has been referred to us,

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doesn't necessarily mean that the case hasn't already been passed

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to another firm, which means we have to always be aware

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that this information could be in the hands of someone else.

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-No...

-Wow.

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No dates, no area.

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Without a second to waste, Ryan began searching for Victor's heirs.

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So, the first thing for us to do when we're researching

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the family tree is to find out whether someone was married.

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This is always the first course of action,

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because a spouse would take the entire estate.

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With no marriage listing for Victor,

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Ryan was then quickly able to establish

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he didn't have any children.

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We need to move on to knowing who his parents were.

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We need to know the names we're working with in order to conduct

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a birth search to find any of Victor's siblings.

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But with the records indicating Victor was an only child,

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the race was now on for Ryan to search for Victor's wider family.

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So, we have to treat the case with a high priority.

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But Ryan knew he may not be alone.

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It's a kind of double-edged sword, really. As much as

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we're finding the research quite easy into the Hubbuck family,

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if this case is being looked into by another firm, it's...

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They're dealing with the same surnames,

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they're going to be finding it as straightforward.

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To stand a chance of pipping any rival firms to the post,

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Ryan decided to divide and conquer.

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Did you ever get Gladys's middle name, Ryan?

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He recruited fellow case manager Amy Moyes

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to tackle the maternal side of the family...

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..whilst Ryan attempted to crack the paternal side.

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We found out that Victor's father, Stanley, passed away in 1980.

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Victor's mother, Gladys, passed away quite some time ago, actually,

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-in 1949.

-Did you have a chance to look at the research

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I've done on this one?

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With Victor's mum having died young,

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the team wanted to know if Stanley had remarried.

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We conducted a marriage search for Stanley V Hubbuck.

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We found out there was another marriage in 1950.

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The marriage was between Stanley Victor Hubbuck

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and Eileen Ernestine Hubbuck.

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The critical thing now was to establish whether Stanley

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had children from his second marriage,

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as they would be Victor's half-siblings

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and sole heirs to his estate.

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Hello, it's Ryan Gregory in London.

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We're a firm of heir hunters.

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But unfortunately,

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the search for births from that marriage would prove to be tricky.

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Eileen had already changed her name to Hubbuck

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prior to marrying Stanley.

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So we really needed to know what her other surnames were.

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It could cause a delay.

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We always just want to get results as quickly as possible

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in these kind of cases.

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A hold-up was the last thing Ryan needed.

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As he was working a valuable and potentially competitive case,

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the team took a punt and started looking into the wider family,

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knowing that if a half-blood sibling was found,

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it would render all their work useless.

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It's looking like quite a small family.

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I've only found the one stem.

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Amy took the maternal side and made good early progress.

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I've located the birth record for Gladys, Victor's mother.

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And we can see that her mother's maiden name is Hagget,

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spelt with a single T.

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But Amy soon hit a problem.

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Then gone on to take a look for Gladys's parents' marriage record

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and we have Albert Henry Longman, marrying an Annie Florence Hagget,

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but this time Hagget is spelt with two Ts.

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I can see four possible variant spellings,

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so you're having to check each potential record four times

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instead of just once. So it's obviously making...

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Making the work a little bit more time-consuming.

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Annie Longman was a Hagget.

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After some painstaking research, Amy had established

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that Victor's maternal grandparents only had two children -

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Victor's mum, Gladys Longman,

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and her brother, Frederick William Longman.

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A search of the birth indexes indicated that Frederick had

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had just the one child...

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..who would have been a direct cousin, a first cousin of Victor's.

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But with only one living heir on the maternal side,

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had the delays in researching the name Hagget left the door open

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for a rival firm to sign her up first?

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We knew that we had just the one heir,

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so just the one chance at signature.

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With no time to waste, Amy got in contact with the sole maternal heir,

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but was she too late?

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It was really satisfying once we'd heard it was a successful visit

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and she agreed to retain us.

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But the good news was short-lived.

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On the paternal side, Ryan was still unable to establish whether or not

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Victor had a half-sibling,

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so there was still a chance the sole maternal heir

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would not be entitled to inherit.

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You know, no-one ever wants to get to a position

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where they've found a number of heirs

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of the wider family and then you come back and realise there's a step

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that's been missed or someone that wasn't jumping out at you,

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who would then disinherit your other family members.

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But as the team desperately try to find the rightful heirs to Victor's

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estate, they discover something that takes the case to a whole new level,

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and ups the ante with their competitors.

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Found a Natwest account.

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That's just to start with.

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We're talking a considerable sum of money.

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Life-changing.

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Massive problem with George.

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In central London,

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heir hunters at firm Fraser & Fraser have reached a critical point

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in a big case and the clock is ticking.

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Bet these could just stretch out so big, as well,

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you never know what's going to happen.

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Case assistant Shannon Freeman,

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along with researcher Katie Peacock, is frantically trying to find

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beneficiaries to the estate of John Theodoridi, who died in 2016

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without leaving a will.

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It's just a bit of a challenge, really.

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It's one of those jobs that you keep going back to and you know you need

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to crack it and it's just a matter of time before you get there.

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John Frederick Theodoridi passed away in hospital in London

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on 16th July, 2016.

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He'd worked as a porter in the rag trade,

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and since the age of ten lived in a council flat in Tooting

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in South London.

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He was a character. That's all I can say.

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A character. He had a fantastic sense of humour.

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Mike was John's neighbour for 40 years and he remembers him fondly.

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I first met John 1976...

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..and I thought he looked sophisticated.

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And then later became friends with him

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and he was like an older brother.

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For his entire life, John had shared a flat with his mum and dad,

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becoming their carer in their final years.

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When they passed away, it took its toll on John.

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The year after his mum died, he had a breakdown.

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He was in a local hospital, Springfield,

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for about two, two months.

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It did affect him somewhat.

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It's lovely, that.

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That is good, yeah.

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-Sort of innocent little face.

-I know.

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With no family to care for John,

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he was befriended by neighbours Jane and Susan,

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who helped him with his weekly shop.

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When we came back, he would check the prices.

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You know? Sell-by dates.

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"This was two pence cheaper last week."

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You know, have the money exactly.

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Completely on the ball.

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I think he was the archetypal grumpy old man...

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..in a lovely way!

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When John died, it was these friends who gave him a good send-off.

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She got quite a few people to come to his funeral, which was wonderful,

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and they came here, to the Wheatsheaf, afterwards for a wake.

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As there were no family members to speak of.

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It isn't about family and I think of his mum, he said once,

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"Oh, they died a long time ago."

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He only talked about his parents.

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I didn't think there were any other family members.

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We're not going to have anyone on this generation.

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This will all be down another level.

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With no known family or a will,

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John's estate was advertised on the government's Bona Vacantia list.

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It came from the government legal department,

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so we knew instantly the risk is that we could have other competitor

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companies that may well also be working the same case.

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But competition from rival firms wasn't Shannon's only concern.

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The team needed to try and establish

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if there was any value in John's estate.

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We knew that it was a small flat, and it was a council flat.

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It was quite a risk going on with the case.

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The heir hunters work on commission,

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making a pre-agreed percentage of the estate.

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We could start work and it could get bigger and bigger and bigger

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and then at the end of the day we could have 50 beneficiaries

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and no money to distribute.

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If the estate turned out to be worthless

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it would spell disaster for the team.

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Nonetheless, they decided to take the risk,

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hoping later down the line they would discover assets

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that would make this case more worthwhile.

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First, Shannon had to establish some basic facts.

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John hadn't married or had any children,

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so the search focused on his parents.

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His father was Frederick Theodoridi and the team were confident about

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working his side of the family.

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Theodoridi is an amazingly unique name.

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From the beginning we knew it would be a great name to work.

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Things were less positive on the maternal side,

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as John's mother Bessie had the most common surname of all - Smith.

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But Shannon soon made a significant discovery.

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Our enquiries told us from a long-standing neighbour

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that the deceased's mum was... She was raised in an orphanage.

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This was crucial information.

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If someone's raised in an orphanage it could mean perhaps

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that they were born illegit, so they may not have a father.

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That works in a good way,

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in the sense that we wouldn't have a whole side of the tree to do,

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and where her surname was Smith,

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that would have helped us quite a bit.

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But Shannon couldn't get her hopes up just yet.

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We're not entirely sure if

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what the neighbour said in regards to the orphanage was true.

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It could just be hearsay and she could maybe have just said that

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to someone along the way.

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So far we've signed four people. Four of his cousins.

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If Shannon discovers she has to research the tricky maternal

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Smith side of John's family, the workload would be monumental.

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In the meantime, Shannon began to research

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the paternal Theodoridi side, starting with John's grandfather,

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but straight away, she ran into problems.

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His grandfather was known as Theodore Gabriel John Theodoridi,

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as well as being known as Gabriel Theodoridi

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and John Frederick Theodoridi.

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The fact that he went by so many names was a concern for the team.

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He's Gabriel in the 1911 census, and that was one of our worries.

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We had to really make sure that we had the correct family

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because his names weren't matching up.

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Concerned she may be researching the wrong family,

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Shannon ordered a copy of the birth certificate

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for John's grandfather Frederick

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in the hope it would shine some light on the discrepancy in names.

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The birth certificate of the grandfather...

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So he's born as Theodore Gabriel Theodoridi, and that's in 1869.

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But it was the information the certificate contained

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about John's great-grandfather that could have a huge bearing

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on this case.

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John Theodoridi,

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the great grandfather of the deceased, was a tobacco merchant.

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It's a discovery that could open the case up

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and lead to a high-value estate.

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We were quickly able to establish that with the unique name,

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there was someone who was a tobacco merchant who was quite well known

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for opening a tobacco shop in London.

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John's career in the valuable tobacco industry

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was forged in the 1850s, during the Crimean War.

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The British saw their Turkish allies and their Russian enemies

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smoking these cigarettes.

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From its introduction in the 16th century,

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tobacco had been smoked using pipes

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and then, from the early 1800s, cigars as well.

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That began to change after the Napoleonic wars,

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after the British troops shared cigars,

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ie smoking tobacco leaves in kind of leaves themselves.

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But in southern Europe, cigarettes were not really heard of yet

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and after meeting British soldiers in the Crimean War,

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enterprising Theodoridi saw the craze for tobacco had the potential

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to grow, and with it the opportunity to make a lot of money.

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Cigarettes - the idea that you could smoke tobacco

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in sort of thinly rolled-up bits of paper,

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that hadn't really caught on in England.

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So, in the late 19th century,

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Theodoridi had picked a good racket to get involved with.

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In 1861, John opened his first cigarette shop,

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similar to this one in Leicester Square, in London.

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It was a good business proposition

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because London then was the biggest city on the face of the earth.

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It was a centre of empire and where he had a shop - Leicester Square -

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that was one of the most commercial places you could find.

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When John moved to England to open his shop in Leicester Square,

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it was the beginning of what would become a multimillion-pound industry

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in the UK alone.

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By just opening that shop and coming over from another country

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and starting his life over here,

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he's massively influenced what's happened so far in the world.

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For the heir hunt, it meant not only was their potential for John's

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unclaimed estate to be worth a small fortune,

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but Shannon had now managed to confirm she was researching

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the correct family.

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Dad's listed as John Theodore Theodoridi, rather than Gabriel,

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which is what we have on other records.

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So we're able to kind of work out that

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straight off the top the grandfather was messing around with his name.

0:20:020:20:07

He used a lot of different names during his life,

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so we just had to kind of keep that aware when we were looking for

0:20:090:20:12

things like census records and especially death records

0:20:120:20:15

and marriage records.

0:20:150:20:17

Shannon was now able to start building the Theodoridi family tree.

0:20:170:20:21

John's father Frederick had four siblings -

0:20:220:20:25

John, Reginald, Arthur and Jessie.

0:20:250:20:29

But when they began looking for their descendants,

0:20:290:20:31

they hit another problem.

0:20:310:20:34

The further we started researching, we realised these families,

0:20:340:20:37

they weren't going on to have children.

0:20:370:20:39

Having ruled out Reginald, Arthur and Jessie from their search,

0:20:400:20:44

options for finding heirs were looking limited.

0:20:440:20:46

We only have descendants of one aunt and uncle.

0:20:480:20:50

But things were looking even worse on the Smith side of the family,

0:20:510:20:55

which Shannon had been hoping they'd be able to avoid.

0:20:550:20:58

I've got the marriage certificate of the parents of the deceased

0:20:580:21:00

and it had a dad's name on it.

0:21:000:21:02

And we wanted it to not have Dad's name on it.

0:21:020:21:04

We wanted her to be raised in an orphanage and not have any family.

0:21:040:21:07

But instead we got a census which was absolutely full of names

0:21:070:21:12

and they were stretching back to like 1883,

0:21:120:21:15

so it's a lot of hard work now.

0:21:150:21:17

It was the news the team had been dreading.

0:21:180:21:21

They were facing a huge family with the worst possible name.

0:21:210:21:24

Isn't her maiden name Smith?

0:21:250:21:27

We've got possibly eight top-liners who are all going to have children

0:21:270:21:31

and all going to carry on whittling down and we're going to have

0:21:310:21:34

so many beneficiaries. It's going to be a huge tree.

0:21:340:21:37

I'm absolutely dreading it already.

0:21:370:21:39

And with still no idea how much the estate was worth,

0:21:390:21:43

was the case of John Theodoridi about to turn into a major loss?

0:21:430:21:48

It felt like everything was against us.

0:21:480:21:50

Every year in Britain,

0:21:570:21:58

thousands of people get a surprise knock on the door from heir hunters.

0:21:580:22:02

A little bit shocked to find out that I had a long-lost relative.

0:22:030:22:07

As well as handing over life-changing sums of money,

0:22:080:22:11

the heir hunters can bring long-lost relatives back together.

0:22:110:22:14

I was quite shocked because I didn't realise there was anybody

0:22:150:22:19

in the family that we could inherit from any more.

0:22:190:22:22

Thousands of estates have eluded the heir hunters

0:22:240:22:27

and remain unsolved.

0:22:270:22:28

Today, we've got details of two estates yet to be claimed.

0:22:290:22:33

Could you be the person the heir hunters are looking for,

0:22:330:22:36

or know someone that is?

0:22:360:22:37

The first case is Meade Grigg. She was born on 11th December, 1903,

0:22:400:22:46

in Wales, possibly in Pembrokeshire...

0:22:460:22:48

..and died on 6th December, 1987 in Bournemouth.

0:22:510:22:55

It's unknown whether Meade ever married,

0:22:580:23:00

but it's thought she had two nephews

0:23:000:23:02

and may have used the middle name Josephine.

0:23:020:23:04

Is there a chance you could be related

0:23:060:23:08

or know someone that could be?

0:23:080:23:11

The second case is Leslie James Swann,

0:23:110:23:14

who was born on 28th March, 1923,

0:23:140:23:17

in England, and died on 31st March, 2008, in Tooting, South London.

0:23:170:23:24

Leslie never married,

0:23:240:23:25

but it's possible he was adopted and his birth name may have been Cowen.

0:23:250:23:30

Do you know a Grigg or a Swann?

0:23:300:23:32

If so, you could be in line for a surprise windfall.

0:23:320:23:36

It's looking like quite a small family.

0:23:470:23:49

I've only found the one stem.

0:23:490:23:52

At heir-hunting firm Finders, case managers Ryan and Amy

0:23:520:23:56

have been desperately trying to find heirs to the estate

0:23:560:23:59

of Victor Hubbuck before rival firms.

0:23:590:24:02

So we have to treat the case with a high priority.

0:24:020:24:05

Victor owned a flat in West London,

0:24:050:24:07

estimated to be worth around £400,000.

0:24:070:24:10

-Very good.

-That's quite interesting.

0:24:100:24:12

But having found a potential cousin through Victor's mother,

0:24:130:24:17

the team ran into trouble when they discovered there was a chance Victor

0:24:170:24:20

had a potential half-sibling.

0:24:200:24:22

Half-blood siblings would also have a prior entitlement to any potential

0:24:230:24:27

maternal and paternal beneficiaries.

0:24:270:24:29

Knowing a half-sibling could make or break the case,

0:24:310:24:34

Ryan faced an anxious wait for the birth records to come through.

0:24:340:24:38

We again found out that Stanley didn't have any other children

0:24:380:24:41

and Victor didn't have any other brothers and sisters.

0:24:410:24:44

Having ruled out half-siblings,

0:24:460:24:48

the team could now focus their efforts on the wider family.

0:24:480:24:51

Ryan looked into Victor's father, Stanley,

0:24:530:24:56

to see if he had brothers or sisters.

0:24:560:24:58

But there was a problem.

0:24:590:25:00

For some reason, we couldn't find Stanley Victor Hubbuck

0:25:010:25:05

on the 1911 census. He was coming up on 1939 register, but again,

0:25:050:25:10

he wasn't with his family at that time.

0:25:100:25:12

Frustratingly, the case had stalled.

0:25:140:25:16

And with the possibility of rival firms moving in on the estate,

0:25:180:25:21

Ryan had to think on his feet.

0:25:210:25:23

The only way around it was to order the birth certificate

0:25:240:25:28

of Stanley Victor to find out the answer to that question -

0:25:280:25:32

who were Stanley's parents?

0:25:320:25:34

On a highly competitive case like this,

0:25:370:25:39

Ryan faced an agonising wait for the birth certificate to arrive.

0:25:390:25:44

But would it contain the information Ryan needed

0:25:440:25:46

to kick-start this search?

0:25:460:25:48

We now have the names of his parents.

0:25:490:25:52

Now we've located the family on the 1911 census,

0:25:520:25:55

the search can properly begin into any family members

0:25:550:25:58

on the paternal side.

0:25:580:26:00

With that information, Ryan could now check key documents

0:26:020:26:05

to look for siblings of Victor's father.

0:26:050:26:07

From the 1911 census,

0:26:090:26:11

Ryan was able to establish that Victor's paternal grandparents,

0:26:110:26:15

John Lee Hubbuck and Annie Tall, had three children -

0:26:150:26:19

Ivy, William and Stanley.

0:26:190:26:21

The census records are incredibly important.

0:26:230:26:27

They will also tell us how many children they've had,

0:26:270:26:30

how many are still living and how many have passed away.

0:26:300:26:32

So that's an incredibly useful starting point

0:26:320:26:36

to know how many top lines we've got.

0:26:360:26:39

Another key bits of information which is useful for when we go back

0:26:390:26:42

to the 1911 census records is that Stanley's father John

0:26:420:26:47

was a master hairdresser.

0:26:470:26:48

HORSE NEIGHS

0:26:510:26:53

By the mid-1800s, wigs,

0:26:550:26:58

which had previously been the head garment of choice

0:26:580:27:00

amongst the well-heeled, were falling out of fashion

0:27:000:27:04

and a desire to have one's own hair styled instead

0:27:040:27:07

swept across London and the UK.

0:27:070:27:09

By the 1900s, hairdressing had become a profession

0:27:120:27:16

that was in demand.

0:27:160:27:17

In 1884, here in London, the Guild of Hairdressers,

0:27:180:27:22

Wig-makers and Perfumers was established.

0:27:220:27:25

And we can make out that John Hubbuck would have been a member

0:27:250:27:28

of one of these guilds, because he was called a master hairdresser.

0:27:280:27:32

For Victor's grandfather John, to become a master hairdresser,

0:27:340:27:38

he would have first undergone rigorous training.

0:27:380:27:40

Hairdressing apprentices would have to learn the different hairstyles,

0:27:420:27:45

how to shave properly,

0:27:450:27:47

how to sell and make different creams and lotions and potions.

0:27:470:27:52

And it was also a fairly formal affair.

0:27:520:27:55

As well as the skills and knowledge needed to ply their trade,

0:27:570:28:00

the training also taught the aspiring hairdressers

0:28:000:28:03

how to converse with their clients.

0:28:030:28:06

There were to avoid controversial topics,

0:28:060:28:09

unless invited by the clients.

0:28:090:28:12

Such topics included personal relationships -

0:28:120:28:15

well, I can understand that one -

0:28:150:28:16

politics - that's fairly standard - or the weather.

0:28:160:28:20

Now, if only fewer hairdressers talked to me about the weather,

0:28:200:28:22

I'd be one happy customer.

0:28:220:28:25

With the title of master hairdresser under his belt, in the early 1900s,

0:28:250:28:30

John left Gateshead in north-east England and travelled south

0:28:300:28:33

to London with his wife, Annie.

0:28:330:28:35

There would have been many more opportunities for him here

0:28:370:28:40

in order to make a name for himself

0:28:400:28:42

and cut the hair of many well-to-do clients

0:28:420:28:44

and no doubt sell them many of his own hair-styling products as well.

0:28:440:28:49

Yeah, if you can get a couple of addresses.

0:28:570:29:00

Having travelled to London for work,

0:29:000:29:02

the team discovered grandfather John stayed there to have a family.

0:29:020:29:06

Upon checking the 1939 register,

0:29:080:29:11

Ryan revealed that John Hubbuck and his wife Annie had a fourth child

0:29:110:29:15

in 1923, called Sidney Ernest Hubbuck.

0:29:150:29:19

With Victor's one aunt and two uncles to look into,

0:29:200:29:23

the race was on to find a cousin who could be an heir.

0:29:230:29:28

So, given that we've had to wait for the lead into the paternal family,

0:29:280:29:32

we were really anxious to get to talk to someone,

0:29:320:29:35

you know, to speak to beneficiaries.

0:29:350:29:38

Finally, Ryan was making progress on the paternal stems

0:29:380:29:41

and began to build a family tree.

0:29:410:29:43

Victor's aunt - Ivy Hubbuck - married William Thomas in 1924.

0:29:460:29:50

They had six children, one of whom was Grace Annie Thomas.

0:29:520:29:56

But just when Ryan thought he was closing in on a paternal heir,

0:30:010:30:05

he received some bad news.

0:30:050:30:08

Here we have Grace Anne Thomas, she married Howard Etherington in 1966.

0:30:080:30:13

Grace subsequently passed away in 2004.

0:30:130:30:16

The trail had run cold.

0:30:170:30:19

Ryan's only hope of finally finding a paternal heir

0:30:190:30:22

was all resting on Grace having children that were still alive.

0:30:220:30:27

We have Grace Anne Thomas, she was survived by three children,

0:30:270:30:31

one of whom was Nigel.

0:30:310:30:32

The team had finally struck gold and found an heir.

0:30:360:30:40

Nigel is Victor's cousin once removed.

0:30:410:30:43

I'd never heard of Victor before.

0:30:450:30:47

My aunties had never mentioned anything about him...

0:30:480:30:51

..so it did come as a bit of a surprise, yes.

0:30:530:30:57

Nigel's father was a diplomat,

0:30:580:31:00

so he spent most of his life between boarding school in the UK

0:31:000:31:04

and living overseas.

0:31:040:31:06

Growing up as a diplomat's son, it was quite good fun...

0:31:060:31:10

..as we were able to go to the ambassador's residence quite often

0:31:110:31:17

and meet any British dignitaries.

0:31:170:31:19

Nigel's father's jetsetting career took its toll on the traditional

0:31:220:31:26

family life, and as a result, Nigel had never met his cousin, Victor.

0:31:260:31:30

We've lost touch, I guess.

0:31:310:31:33

Or didn't really explore a lot of our extended family that perhaps,

0:31:330:31:37

had we stayed in the same place, then maybe we would have done.

0:31:370:31:41

Since finding out he is an heir,

0:31:420:31:44

Nigel has dug out some old family photographs.

0:31:440:31:48

This chap's my dad.

0:31:480:31:49

And this is my mum...

0:31:500:31:52

..with her dad. My grandads on either side, I think.

0:31:540:31:58

They both died either when I was young or before I was born.

0:31:580:32:03

There's a lot of people in here who I just have no clue who they are.

0:32:030:32:08

But there was about to be another twist to this tale.

0:32:100:32:13

Hi, Michael, nice to see you.

0:32:180:32:20

Ryan and Amy, along with probate lawyers Michael and Christopher,

0:32:200:32:24

are conducting a search of Victor's flat in Paddington in West London,

0:32:240:32:28

which could have a huge bearing on Nigel's inheritance.

0:32:280:32:32

They're looking for details of any savings or investments

0:32:350:32:37

Victor may have had. But also, any sign he may have left a will.

0:32:370:32:42

If a will does turn up, I mean,

0:32:420:32:44

this could potentially disinherit all of the people we've previously

0:32:440:32:47

contacted and render possibly months' worth of work useless.

0:32:470:32:51

Have you found anything since you've been in here?

0:32:520:32:54

No. We've just started.

0:32:540:32:57

Little is known about Victor.

0:32:570:32:58

But the search has already revealed that he worked for the Royal Mail

0:32:580:33:02

and appeared to live a very humble lifestyle.

0:33:020:33:05

These look like bills.

0:33:100:33:12

But the team are completely unprepared

0:33:120:33:14

for what they discover next.

0:33:140:33:16

Yep. Found a NatWest account.

0:33:180:33:20

220,000 in it.

0:33:220:33:24

And a Nationwide account with 320,000 in it.

0:33:290:33:32

No way.

0:33:320:33:34

Well, that's just to start with.

0:33:340:33:36

We found the two bank statements.

0:33:370:33:39

To be there when something like that happens is very memorable.

0:33:390:33:43

We are talking a considerable sum of money.

0:33:430:33:46

Life-changing.

0:33:460:33:48

-Fairly recent statements.

-2016.

0:33:480:33:50

2016.

0:33:500:33:52

It's truly astonishing discovery.

0:33:520:33:55

This kind of takes the case into another dimension.

0:33:550:33:58

The bank statements indicate the estate is worth a staggering

0:34:000:34:03

half a million pounds more than they initially thought.

0:34:030:34:07

And crucially for the heir hunters, there's no sign of any will.

0:34:090:34:13

It's just mind-blowing.

0:34:130:34:15

You know, now to know that somebody had that much money and then...

0:34:150:34:18

Nigel, along with 15 other heirs,

0:34:210:34:24

will share Victor's impressive £900,000 estate.

0:34:240:34:28

For Ryan and Amy,

0:34:300:34:32

having pipped rival heir-hunting firms to the post,

0:34:320:34:35

it's not a search they'll be forgetting any time soon.

0:34:350:34:38

As a case manager, I mean,

0:34:390:34:40

we go through a case and it starts off and it's just a name

0:34:400:34:43

on a file, and we don't really know anything about the person.

0:34:430:34:46

So then we have to go in and have a look through Victor's property

0:34:460:34:49

and know a bit about him.

0:34:490:34:51

It is touching and it's quite moving.

0:34:510:34:53

It's quite nice to be able to give them not only the financial rewards

0:34:530:34:55

that are available, but also to give them something more personal.

0:34:550:34:59

Since discovering he's an heir to Victor's substantial estate,

0:34:590:35:03

it has kick-started Nigel's own quest to discover

0:35:030:35:06

more about his family history.

0:35:060:35:08

It would be an idea for me to try and find out who the rest

0:35:080:35:12

of these people are. It could fill in a few blanks.

0:35:120:35:15

We're not going to have anyone on this generation,

0:35:210:35:23

it's all going to be down another level.

0:35:230:35:26

In London, heir hunters at Fraser & Fraser have spent

0:35:260:35:29

the last fortnight trying to crack the case of John Theodoridi,

0:35:290:35:33

a quiet, private man who died in 2016 without leaving a will.

0:35:330:35:38

The team had already discovered

0:35:410:35:42

John's great-grandfather was a tobacco entrepreneur.

0:35:420:35:47

But despite having a wealthy relative,

0:35:470:35:49

they still hadn't found any sign of any money.

0:35:490:35:51

OK, so, someone who doesn't own a property is always a bit risky,

0:35:530:35:56

cos you're purely reliant on any assets that they've had

0:35:560:35:59

during their life. So any savings that they've had,

0:35:590:36:01

any cars that they've owned, you are really reliant on that.

0:36:010:36:05

Having committed time and money into research, Shannon feared the worst.

0:36:070:36:12

What we didn't want to do was go out to locate all of these people

0:36:120:36:16

and spend a lot of resources and a lot of money on a case to find out

0:36:160:36:20

that the deceased was insolvent or didn't have any money at all.

0:36:200:36:24

As the search for finding heirs was under way,

0:36:240:36:27

establishing the value of this estate was more pressing than ever.

0:36:270:36:31

We knew that the mother and the father didn't leave any money to him

0:36:310:36:34

at the time of passing away.

0:36:340:36:35

So not even the neighbours knew that he had savings or money.

0:36:350:36:40

Having exhausted most lines of inquiry,

0:36:400:36:42

things were not looking good.

0:36:420:36:44

But just when Shannon needed it,

0:36:440:36:46

a bit of good luck was about to come her way.

0:36:460:36:49

We were able to establish with some inquires that the deceased did have

0:36:490:36:53

some savings and it was in the region of around £80,000

0:36:530:36:56

in one of his bank accounts.

0:36:560:36:58

It was just what the team needed to hear.

0:36:580:37:01

And then when we got the knowledge that there was money in the case,

0:37:010:37:04

we then pursued the Smith side with a bit more aggression

0:37:040:37:07

and kind of got a lot more people to start research.

0:37:070:37:11

OK, thank you. Goodbye.

0:37:110:37:12

Shannon and the research team quickly sprung into action.

0:37:140:37:17

But there was a major stumbling block that would slow them down.

0:37:170:37:21

The deceased's mother's maiden name.

0:37:210:37:24

At first, having a Smith job is really... It's almost worrying,

0:37:240:37:28

because you know that you're going to have to spend the time and money

0:37:280:37:31

getting the certificates and doing the research.

0:37:310:37:34

Eventually, Shannon managed to confirm that Bessie's parents

0:37:370:37:41

were Thomas Smith and Elizabeth Mills

0:37:410:37:43

and they had a total of ten children, including Bessie.

0:37:430:37:46

Two had died as infants,

0:37:480:37:50

but that still left a daunting seven Smith stems to research.

0:37:500:37:54

We realised we were dealing with not only a Smith family,

0:37:550:37:58

but a very large family.

0:37:580:38:01

And everything about the family made the hunt for heirs near impossible.

0:38:010:38:05

We had names that were just first name, surname, Smith.

0:38:050:38:09

We didn't have dates of birth, we didn't know where they were born,

0:38:090:38:11

people were chopping and changing names

0:38:110:38:13

and it was just so disheartening.

0:38:130:38:16

With the Smith side hitting a brick wall,

0:38:180:38:20

the team began to wonder whether they'd ever crack this case.

0:38:200:38:23

On the Theodoridi side, however, there was more positive news.

0:38:250:38:28

The team had established that one of John's uncles,

0:38:300:38:33

who was called John Frank Theodoridi,

0:38:330:38:36

married Eva Moore in 1924.

0:38:360:38:39

But the vital information for the heir hunt

0:38:390:38:41

was they went on to have five children. One of them was Valerie.

0:38:410:38:45

I got on the telephone to her and she recognised the name,

0:38:480:38:50

but she couldn't pinpoint it

0:38:500:38:52

and she didn't recognise the name of the deceased,

0:38:520:38:55

which obviously made me worry a bit

0:38:550:38:57

whilst I was on the phone to her, thinking,

0:38:570:38:59

have we gone off on a tangent?

0:38:590:39:02

Was Shannon closing in on her first heir?

0:39:020:39:04

Or had the team just made a huge error?

0:39:060:39:09

Valerie's reaction to the name John Theodoridi was not the one

0:39:120:39:16

the team had hoped for.

0:39:160:39:17

I'd never heard of this...

0:39:180:39:20

..chap who was my cousin, so they were telling me.

0:39:210:39:25

And I was a little bit excited,

0:39:270:39:31

but I was a little bit...

0:39:310:39:33

I don't... ..flummoxed by it all.

0:39:330:39:35

After the phone call, Valerie contacted her family

0:39:370:39:40

to see if anyone else had heard of a cousin called John.

0:39:400:39:43

My nephews and my great-nephew said, oh, we will investigate this.

0:39:430:39:50

I've found out I'm related to John Frederick Theodoridi

0:39:500:39:56

and that he's my cousin.

0:39:560:39:58

I found that amazing,

0:39:590:40:01

that I had that side of the family that I didn't know existed.

0:40:010:40:06

And I just couldn't believe it, really.

0:40:070:40:10

Although she had no knowledge of the cousin John,

0:40:110:40:14

or his father Frederick, she has fond memories of the time she spent

0:40:140:40:18

with her grandfather, Theodore Theodoridi.

0:40:180:40:21

I sort of remember him very well.

0:40:220:40:24

He lived in London and I remember him coming to see us regularly.

0:40:240:40:29

Very gentlemanly

0:40:290:40:31

and always beautifully dressed.

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As well as finding out about the inheritance,

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Valerie has received a photograph of the cousin she never knew she had.

0:40:390:40:44

Oh, good gracious.

0:40:440:40:46

Would you believe it?

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And instantly, Valerie can see the family resemblance.

0:40:500:40:53

I can see my brother Derek here, you know?

0:40:550:40:59

Big family likeness.

0:40:590:41:02

Oh, how wonderful.

0:41:020:41:03

But the question remained - how did Valerie go through the last 80 years

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without knowing about John or John's father?

0:41:090:41:11

I'm quite surprised really that I've got these relatives

0:41:130:41:17

that I didn't know existed.

0:41:170:41:19

My father was a very busy businessman.

0:41:200:41:25

Some people, they live very much, don't they,

0:41:250:41:28

with all their cousins and they are always seeing their cousins

0:41:280:41:31

and all that sort of thing - my family was not like that.

0:41:310:41:36

Very good to their immediate family,

0:41:360:41:38

but they don't seem to need to keep in contact

0:41:380:41:42

with other members of the family.

0:41:420:41:44

As well as having made contact with an heir on the Theodoridi side,

0:41:500:41:54

the team had also made a breakthrough

0:41:540:41:56

on the nightmare Smith side.

0:41:560:41:58

And when we realised that one of the addresses was consistent

0:41:580:42:02

on all of the records, that was the only thing we began looking out for.

0:42:020:42:06

We stopped looking for Smiths.

0:42:060:42:08

We started looking for connections to the one property

0:42:080:42:11

and the moment we found that connection,

0:42:110:42:14

we were finding marriages where people state that they were born

0:42:140:42:17

and married in that one property,

0:42:170:42:20

it meant that we could pretty much...

0:42:200:42:23

We just stopped thinking of it as a Smith case and just started to think

0:42:230:42:26

"Hang on, we'll just look for everyone that was at this house."

0:42:260:42:30

The team discovered 19 heirs who will share John's £80,000 estate,

0:42:340:42:39

along with the seven heirs

0:42:390:42:41

the team had already found on the paternal side.

0:42:410:42:45

You finally get that last person that can say what happened

0:42:450:42:48

on the tree and you know exactly where everyone is

0:42:480:42:51

and you're confident that that's all correct, it's the best feeling,

0:42:510:42:54

because you know, at the end of the day, you can all sit down

0:42:540:42:58

and you can have a chat

0:42:580:42:59

and you've actually really achieved something today.

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