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Heir hunters track down the families of people who've died without leaving a will.

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They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives

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who have no idea they were in line for a windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's show, the heir hunters struggle with misinformation.

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So, it's not... Where the hell did he die?

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It's not just the team who are enjoying the hunt.

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It's like being part of a detective story.

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And an old case comes back to haunt head honcho Neil Fraser.

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It makes me quite angry that I've started something and I can't finish it.

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Plus, a list of unclaimed estates worth nearly £0.5 million.

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Could you be related to anyone on it and have thousands of pounds heading your way?

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Every year, over 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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If no family is found, their money goes to the Government.

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That's when the heir-hunting companies step in.

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They race against each other to be the first to track down long-lost relatives entitled to inherit.

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Fraser & Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in Britain.

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Nicky is the half-sister.

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In its 30-year history, it's grabbed from the Government over £100 million,

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giving it back to over 50,000 heirs.

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It's 7.00am on Thursday, and staff are already

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starting to arrive at Fraser & Fraser's central London office.

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Thursday is the most crucial day for heir hunters,

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as its when the Government releases its weekly list of those who've died with no will.

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At the helm today is senior case manager David Pacifico.

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John H. Chambers?

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David has already chosen the estate they're going to pursue and is keen to get started on the research.

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The case is called Chambers, John Henry Chambers.

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It's 59,000, he died in March '07. We can't confirm the date of birth.

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Fraser's might not have the birth date of John,

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otherwise known as John Henry Chambers, but they do know he died in central London.

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Using this information, they check the electoral roll and swiftly find his last address.

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John Henry Chambers lived in one of these flats, right in the heart of London.

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He worked as a fruit and veg trader and was buried in a pauper's grave in Finchley, north London.

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He left nearly £60,000, but as he died with no will

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and no known relatives, the heir hunters need to track down any long-lost family.

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Getting hold of the address is relatively simple,

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as there is only one John Henry Chambers who lived in central London in 2007.

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However, trawling through their vast database of national birth records,

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the heir hunters have found dozens of John H. Chambers who were born in or around London.

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To find any heirs, they need to work out which one is their man.

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John is an exceptionally common name.

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John Henry's not a very rare combination of names.

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Chambers is not a common name, but it's definitely not unique.

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So we're having trouble at the moment identifying the birth.

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Once we know his birth and we can look into the family and identify what family he's got,

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it's a question of knowing which is the right birth.

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The simplest way of moving forward is to get John Henry Chambers' death certificate.

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This will give the team his date of birth, and will help them start

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to piece together his family tree, working out, generation by generation,

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who he is related to.

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Death certificates are held in register offices close to where someone died.

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David Pacifico knows that John Chambers' last known address was in the London borough of Westminster,

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but right on the border with neighbouring Camden.

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Not knowing where he died, he decides to take a punt on the death certificate

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being held in the register office in Westminster.

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It's important to get someone there fast. Fortunately for David,

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there are a number of people he can call.

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Frasers employee a team of travelling heir hunters, who spend Thursdays poised for action...

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ready to go wherever the hunt takes them.

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These travellers cover every corner of the country and aim to get to any heirs in record time,

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and sign them up before the competition.

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The nearest travelling heir hunter to Westminster is London-based Ewart Lindsay.

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Hello, morning, Ewart. We've just got the one case out, called Chambers, John H.

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We need to pick up the death certificate. It looks like it's going to be a Westminster death. WC1.

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So, do you want to aim towards there, see if you can get the death?

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Speak to you later. Bye.

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The team want the death certificate because this document will give them John Henry Chambers' date of birth,

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a crucial piece of information for building his family tree.

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Getting the birth is the most important thing.

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Having the birth, it's like a flower blooming, you know?

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Um... It sprouts buds.

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We can find out where the parents were born,

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and if they had any brothers or sisters.

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It rolls on from there.

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But with Ewart wading through rush-hour traffic, and no date of birth for John Henry Chambers,

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Frasers are going to have to wait some time for any blooming flowers.

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Boss Neil Fraser knows it's not going to be easy.

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People generally move around London, so although we're looking for a birth in the south-east,

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we're not necessarily looking for a central London birth.

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We've got everyone else picking up random things, seeing if we get that little bit of information,

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that one little hint, which may possibly give us an age, and may give us the right birth.

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At the moment, it's going to be a very slow start to the day.

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With only his address to go on, David Pacifico has found the phone number

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of one of John Chambers' neighbours.

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If he knew him, and could tell them how old he was,

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or better still, his date of birth, it could break open the entire case.

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-We want an age. Doesn't have to be date of birth, but approximately how old he was.

-Yeah, I know(!)

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With the frustration of having no birth date beginning to show,

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the team are pinning their hopes on one of John Chambers' neighbours.

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They may turn around and say, "Yes, he was born on the 1st March, 1920.

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"He shares the same birthday as my dog, my pet cat."

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So they may know that.

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They more than likely will say, "He's about 80", which doesn't leave us in a much better position

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than we are at the moment because we already think he's about 80 years old.

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Case manager Marcus Herbert makes the call.

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Would you know how old he was?

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About 80, you think?

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OK. Thanks a lot, bye-bye.

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I've just spoken to Mr Lopez, who was about the floor above, I think.

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He's known this guy to see about for that length of time.

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But he really doesn't know.

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As I said, 75, 80, which doesn't really help us very much, to be honest, with a name like that.

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Ewart's not far from the register office.

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But in central London, that doesn't mean he will be there any time soon.

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We're in the heart of Leicester Square.

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Jam packed with traffic.

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With Ewart and the investigation at a standstill,

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David Pacifico decides to get his researchers to look through their records

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for any John Henry Chambers born between 1910 and 1960.

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There are a lot of names.

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With so many people to wade through, not everyone has faith in David's strategy.

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I know. But at the moment, would you agree...?

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We're working three at the moment.

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I agree with you.

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One thing everyone does agree on is how hard it is when you can't even get off the starting block.

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It's early yet, and already I'm exasperated.

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Neil feels sure it's not just Frasers who are at a standstill.

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If we're struggling, and we have more access to records, more records than anyone else in the world,

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it means everyone else will be struggling as well.

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Two hours into their search and it seems Ewart still hasn't reached his destination -

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Westminster Register Office.

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Sick of waiting, Neil decides to take matters into his own hands.

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I've got one of my colleagues heading down there, Ewart,

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and I'm seeing if he's there. If he's not there, I'm going to get you to look up a death for us,

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which he will be in in five minutes to pick up.

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A few desks away, David's also fed up of waiting.

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Ewart, where are you?

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The register office?

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He is there? I can leave him to do it in person, then.

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Give me a call as soon as you've got it. If they can look it up, like, yesterday. Cheers, bye.

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-He's there?

-Yes, he's walked into the register office now, so he's there.

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Within the next five or ten minutes, we should have that and then we can stop wasting a bit of time

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and we can get rolling on this and hopefully start finding the correct family.

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Finally, Ewart's ringing with some news - but it's not at all what they've been waiting for.

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Hello?

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Yes, Ewart.

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So that's not the right death?

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That's the only one in 2007?

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If it's not there, he's obviously not died at Westminster.

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So it's not... So, where the hell did he die?

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Coming up, Neil employs a risky strategy.

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None of us are going to put our houses on it, and put money on it,

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but it's the best we've got, so we will work at it.

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Heir hunters make it their job to track down missing relatives

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but you, too, might hold the key to cracking some of the cases.

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Heldor Hermann died in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, in July 2004.

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He was 77 years old and left an estate worth £118,000.

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Did you know Heldor Hermann?

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Do you know a relative who could claim the cash?

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Stanley Wilkinson died, aged 83, in Fulham, London, in December 2006,

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leaving £90,000, which is currently with the Treasury.

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Are you related to Stanley?

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Do you know someone who is?

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Oskar Klaviers died in Birmingham in February 2007, aged 82.

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Oskar left £114,000 unclaimed.

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Are you part of Oskar's family?

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Are you entitled to his estate?

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If you have any information which could help solve any of these cases, take a look at our website...

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In central London, the heir-hunting team have been investigating the case of John Henry Chambers.

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It's £59,000. He died in March '07. We cannot confirm the date of birth.

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They were keen to get his death certificate and took a punt that it might be held

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at Westminster Register Office, near to where he lived.

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But the gamble hasn't paid off.

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Basically, there is no death in 2007, in Westminster,

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for plain John, or John Henry, or anything like that?

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Now the team is back to square one.

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It's a massive blow for the heir hunters.

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The assumption that John Henry Chambers died in the borough where he lived was wrong.

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It should be registered somewhere.

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The question is, where?

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We all thought it would be Westminster, Marylebone...

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..but it may be Camden.

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Aware they have lost precious time, David Pacifico quickly calls the register office

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of neighbouring Camden, just a stone's throw from where John Chambers lived.

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Yes, I'm trying to obtain a copy of a death certificate,

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which we don't know if it's registered at Camden or not.

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I'm asking a question about whether or not you've got it registered in your office. I'm not asking...

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It would be you? I'll get my colleague to come down to the office.

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Thank you very much. Bye.

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Bob, can you go down Camden, please?

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Camden Register Office?

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Bob Smith is one of Fraser's travelling researchers.

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He's been doing the job for 23 years, but this is his first mission today.

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See you later, everyone. Bye-bye.

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Camden Register Office? OK? Lovely.

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David Pacifico is feeling the pressure of wasted time.

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Somebody's on their way now to Camden.

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-<

-Stressful morning?

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Yes, it's just frustrating. Frustrating, but...

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Bob knows that this kind of mix-up is common in London, where each borough has its own register office.

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This can happen quite a bit. We establish where someone lives in London,

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but they may well have died someone else, perhaps in a hospital,

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therefore the death certificate would be held at a different office.

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While Bob hopes his taxi will pick up some speed, Ewart makes his way to John Chambers' flat.

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His task is to find a neighbour who might be able to give the team some useful in formation.

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But in the capital city, it might not be that easy.

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People are not how they used to be, not as friendly.

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Nobody knows their neighbours these days.

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And that's not the only problem with heir hunting in London.

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With the meter ticking, it doesn't look like Bob's going anywhere fast.

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Looks like there's a lot of traffic on the roads today. Road closures, etc. It may take us a little while.

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Will Ewart have any more luck with John Chambers' former neighbours?

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As you can see, there's quite a few numbers for 1 to 61.

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And nobody's answering.

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It's now 10 o'clock and Bob has finally arrived at Camden Register Office.

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Thanks a lot. We'll be back in a minute. Cheers.

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Within minutes, he's got what the team have been waiting for all morning.

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John Chambers' death certificate states that he died at a hospital in Camden.

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That's why his death was registered here and not in Westminster.

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But there's no time for regrets.

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Will the certificate give them the breakthrough they need?

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OK, he dies on 29th March 2007...

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Born on 28th August 1926, but it doesn't give a place of birth.

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So, they finally got John Chambers' date of birth.

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Back at base, they spring into action to find their man.

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But the good vibrations soon peter out.

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Unbelievably, out of the hundreds of John H Chambers in their records,

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there isn't one who was born on that date.

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It's a huge disappointment for the team, but then Neil comes up with a left-field idea.

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I think it's going to be this one.

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Knowing that some people go by their middle names, he decides to switch the first two names around.

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And we have a Henry JF, born in Holborn, in the right quarter.

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Flipping the names is the second massive gamble of the day.

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But just because they've found a Henry J with the right birth date doesn't mean he's the right person.

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It's 50-50, I think, at best. Although we've got everyone working on it,

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we've got everyone working on it cos we've got nothing better to work.

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They quickly start researching Henry John Chambers,

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and it doesn't take long for them to come up with the names of his parents.

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Neil's still uncertain about whether it's the right family.

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None of us are going to put our houses on it, and put money on it,

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but it's the best we've got, so we'll work at it, really.

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Coming up...

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the hunt for the Chambers family takes the team unexpectedly far afield.

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-I'd like you to go to Southampton.

-Southampton?

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Yeah, sorry about that.

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People change their names for different reasons and, when they do,

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it makes the heir hunters' job even harder.

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Nine years ago, Fraser & Fraser were faced with another case when names and records did not match up.

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It was the case of a Neta Axen, sometimes known as Nettie,

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who died aged 95 in East London, leaving an estate worth £25,000.

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Initially put us in a real problem area. The death certificate said she was born in 1904.

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It says she was born in London.

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It says she's a married lady, married to a Mr Axen.

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It doesn't give his Christian names at all.

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We couldn't, however, find the marriage,

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cos we didn't know who to cross-check that back against.

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We didn't have any Christian names for the husband, to work it through that way,

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and we couldn't find her birth certificate because we didn't have her maiden name

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to look for a birth certificate, so huge problems from the start.

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As Neta had spent the last few years of her life in a Jewish care home in Hackney,

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Neil assumed she'd been part of the strong East End Jewish community.

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He made some inquiries and got his first break.

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We were able to identify the name of the husband,

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and that was Isodore Axen.

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And from having Isodore, we were able to search back and find her marriage.

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This was to the surname of Shadatsky.

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This was a major breakthrough for the team.

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But it only gave them the first piece of their jigsaw.

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We then thought we had her maiden name, it sounded very Russian,

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or at least eastern European.

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It tied up with the age, but it didn't lead us to any birth certificates.

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The Benefits Agency believes that she was born in London.

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The hospital and her doctors' registers all said she was born in London.

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But, despite all that, Frasers couldn't find any record of a Neta Shadatsky born in London.

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The team hit a standstill.

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But then Neil had an idea.

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He knew from the marriage certificate that Isodore and Neta

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had married at the Great Synagogue on Commercial Road.

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And from this, he managed to track down a copy of the couple's Jewish marriage certificate.

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The Jewish register,

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the Jewish certificate, gives slightly more information than the English certificate.

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That told us that Nettie was born in Russia.

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So all the information we had confirmed, all up to date through every inquiry,

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that she was born in London proved false.

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The fact that Nettie had moved to England from Russia,

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probably when she was just a child, change the direction of Neil's hunt.

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And looking at the history of the region can explain the reason

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behind the immigration of hundreds of families like Nettie's.

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At the turn of the century in Russia,

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the Jewish population was under

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increasing pressure from anti-Semitism,

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which then led to violent outbursts called pogroms,

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when they were attacked and the areas where they lived were burned.

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Nettie was one of about 150,000 Jews who came to London from Russia to escape the pogroms.

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The reason people came was because they thought, in England, they weren't directly persecuted.

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There were not laws targeting Jews in particular, telling them

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what they couldn't do and where they couldn't live.

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Ironically, even though the Jews left Russia to escape persecution, they still faced it across Europe.

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In fact, in the 1930s, when Nettie would have been in her mid-twenties, and living in London,

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politician Oswald Mosley set up the British Union of Fascists,

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nicknamed the Blackshirts, and they organised provocative marches through Nettie's area.

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We're often told that Hitler is mad.

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Well, I've got another view, myself.

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Bill Fischmann lived in the East End near Nettie.

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He remembers Mosley's marches.

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Then, of course, you've got this megaphone, telling us, "All of you, get to Cable Street!

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"The fascists are marching to the south, near the river."

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And we went through a side turning, and the police were marching and we came into a barricade.

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But what I shall never forget about that

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was to see bearded Jews next to Irish dockers,

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building barricades, and there, they were stopped.

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And that was the famous battle of Cable Street.

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Neil's discovery that Nettie's name and birth information

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varied on different records was not an uncommon occurrence.

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People living year will have changed their names to fit in, or because it's easier,

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because people cannot say or spell a complicated Russian name.

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You might not have anglicised it on arrival,

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but if you found it easier, possibly, to get ahead with a more anglicised name.

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On Nettie's Jewish marriage certificate,

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Neil found evidence that Nettie had a brother called Phillip.

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Knowing more about her history, he now tried to track Phillip down, using different name combinations.

0:24:020:24:09

We found his birth. We then couldn't find his death very easily

0:24:090:24:12

until we had played a round again with the surname of Shadatsky

0:24:120:24:16

and found that he had actually died under the surname of Shade.

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It was a huge problem. We got so many variations on it.

0:24:200:24:23

This was a lucky break, but once again, it led to a stalemate.

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Unfortunately, he was never married, he was a bachelor

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and, although we've made break after break after break,

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and we've jumped several steps along the way,

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and we've made very good progress in our research, we've hit another brick wall.

0:24:390:24:44

With no children born to Nettie's brother, Phillip,

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the team have no more leads to chase.

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But Neil still believes that some living relatives do exist.

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Yes, I think there are beneficiaries. Where are they?

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My feeling is, probably, they'll be in Russia.

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I don't know that, though.

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So it looks as if Neta Axen's estate might be staying with the Government.

0:25:060:25:10

Much to Neil Fraser's disappointment.

0:25:100:25:12

I basically have to draw a line, I have to say,

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"Neil, this is one which got away."

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It doesn't make me happy, it makes me quite angry

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that I've started something and I can't finish it.

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If you can shed any light on the life of Nettie,

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or can prove that you are related to her,

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then you could be entitled to her £25,000 estate.

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Take a look at our website at bbc.co.uk/heirhunters

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for details on what to do next.

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Today the team at Fraser & Fraser have been trying to find heirs

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to the £60,000 estate of a John Henry Chambers.

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This morning the team struggled to find a birth record for John Henry Chambers

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that matched the birth date on his death certificate.

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Then Neil had a radical idea.

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He swapped John Henry's names around and bingo!

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He found a record of a Henry J Chambers with the right birthday.

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But is this just a coincidence?

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Or is Henry J the same person as the John Henry who died?

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It's 11 o'clock and the office team are fact-finding for Henry J Chambers.

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They discover that he had a father who died in 1973,

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whose death certificate is held in Hendon Register Office.

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With nothing else to go on, Neil decides they need this certificate.

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It may contain some crucial information to prove that Henry J is the same person as John Henry.

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The third travelling heir hunter of the day is called up for action.

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Hello, Bob Barratt.

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'Hello, Bob, it's Marcus.'

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Hello, Marcus.

0:27:010:27:02

-'Hello mate, can you go to Hendon?'

-Hendon?

0:27:020:27:04

-'Yeah.'

-Right.

0:27:040:27:05

-Yeah, no problem, cheers.

-'All right, mate, bye.'

0:27:050:27:09

Ex-policeman, Bob Barratt, has been poised for action all morning.

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Right, 14 miles away but I think that's as the crow flies.

0:27:130:27:16

With Bob on his way to Hendon,

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the office now have the opportunity to advance the case.

0:27:190:27:22

Neil studies the names he's added to the family tree

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and notices something unusual about them.

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Most people either have no middle name or one middle name.

0:27:280:27:33

It's less likely to have two middle names.

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Is this a clue which will help the team crack the case?

0:27:350:27:39

Neil decides to act on his instinct.

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Now what I've done is search under the surname of Chambers

0:27:420:27:47

in the registration district of London City, which is where the father's born.

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I'm looking for other children who have three initials -

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two middle names.

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We've found in the past that when you have one person with lots of names

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then you also can have some of their siblings.

0:28:030:28:05

Neil's new search strategy has given the team four possible

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aunts and uncles to Henry John Frederick Chambers.

0:28:100:28:13

All with two middle names.

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These are potential siblings or uncles of the deceased.

0:28:170:28:21

Erm, we're going for them mainly because they've got three names.

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Four hours into the case and the team might be getting somewhere.

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Neil looks up his three initialled names in the electoral roll

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and finds the address of Frank George Edwin Chambers in Southampton.

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Unfortunately he's died, but Neil quickly realises he's just stumbled across another clue.

0:28:380:28:44

I think I've got family living next door to that, Lillian.

0:28:470:28:51

There's a person called Chambers living next door.

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Could he be another member of the same family?

0:28:530:28:57

He only moved into the street in 2003,

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which is two years before his father died

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and his father used to live next door to him.

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This could be the team's first heir,

0:29:060:29:08

but he very nearly slipped through the net.

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Because I was doing different searches at the time,

0:29:110:29:14

I sort of slipped that there was someone with the same surname living next door!

0:29:140:29:18

I'd sort of scrolled past cos he'd only moved into the house in 2003

0:29:180:29:22

and he's possibly going to be at work - I'd skipped past his neighbour

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who's an older lady who would know more about the families.

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Obviously ignoring the fact that he possibly could have been a relative

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which he is...

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He may be a relative, but he isn't in.

0:29:360:29:40

Hello Mr Chambers, my name's Neil Fraser,

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I'm a specialist genealogist and a probate researcher, phoning from central London...

0:29:430:29:48

Neil leaves a message.

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..And if you ask to speak to Neil Fraser or David Pacifico,

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we'll be able to tell you what it's all about. Thank you very much.

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We're not convinced we have the right birth.

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If we have we've been lucky and we can put that down to experience,

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if we haven't, it's one of those things.

0:30:080:30:10

Coming up, Marcus thinks they're on the home straight.

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-Can we just do this?

-Yep.

-Cos I think it's right.

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Every year, there are over 3,000 unclaimed estates added to the Government's list

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and you might be able to help the heir hunters solve one of them.

0:30:290:30:32

Jacqueline Owen died in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk,

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in June 2004, aged 51.

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She left nearly £17,000.

0:30:390:30:43

Did you know Jacqueline? Are you one of her relatives?

0:30:430:30:47

Mark Green died in February 2007 in the Wirral, Merseyside.

0:30:500:30:54

Mark was 80 and left an estate worth £23,000.

0:30:550:30:59

Are you entitled to Mark's money?

0:30:590:31:01

Should you get his cash?

0:31:010:31:03

William Kerridge died in Canterbury, Kent in March 2005, aged 96.

0:31:040:31:09

He left a personal fortune of £60,000.

0:31:090:31:13

Are you part of William's family?

0:31:130:31:16

Do you know someone who is?

0:31:160:31:19

If you have any information regarding any of these unclaimed estates,

0:31:190:31:22

then take a look at our website -

0:31:220:31:24

On the Henry Chambers case, Frasers' travelling heir hunter, Bob Barratt,

0:31:380:31:42

has finally arrived at Hendon register office to pick up

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what could be Henry's father's death certificate.

0:31:450:31:48

Could this be the confirmation they need

0:31:480:31:50

that they are working the right case?

0:31:500:31:52

Hi, Marcus, right, I've got a certificate for Henry Arthur Charles Chambers.

0:31:540:31:59

Bob gives Marcus the vital information from the certificate.

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Died 22 October 1973,

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born 22 January 1904.

0:32:060:32:10

And his address was 35 Sandringham Flats...

0:32:100:32:15

-'Yep?'

-And the informant, John Henry Chambers, son.

0:32:180:32:23

-Of the same address.

-'Lovely!'

0:32:250:32:28

It's great news for the team.

0:32:300:32:32

The certificate contains even more information than they hoped for.

0:32:320:32:36

The fact the person on the death certificate had the very same address as the deceased

0:32:360:32:40

makes it even more certain that they're on to the right family.

0:32:400:32:44

Right, we've got the death of the father from Hendon.

0:32:440:32:47

-It was Henry Arthur Charles Chambers.

-Yep?

0:32:470:32:51

-Died, 22 October, 1973.

-Yep.

0:32:510:32:54

-Of 35 Sandringham Flats, Charing Cross Road.

-Right.

0:32:540:33:00

-It's right.

-We've got the right birth of the deceased. It's good.

0:33:000:33:03

Right, are you gonna tell them downstairs or shall I go down now?

0:33:030:33:07

I'll go.

0:33:070:33:08

It's fantastic news. But Neil knows it's too early to celebrate.

0:33:080:33:13

What we don't know still is if we've identified

0:33:130:33:17

the correct siblings of the father of the deceased.

0:33:170:33:21

I'm a lot happier now we have the right family.

0:33:210:33:24

Now they have Henry Chambers' father's date of birth,

0:33:260:33:28

they can trace his parents - William Chambers and Florence Robinson.

0:33:280:33:33

From them, they work out his siblings,

0:33:330:33:35

this time without relying on guesswork.

0:33:350:33:38

Although the three name clue was right,

0:33:380:33:41

it only uncovered four brothers and sisters.

0:33:410:33:43

In fact, there was another sibling - Doris Chambers.

0:33:430:33:48

But because she didn't follow the pattern of having two middle names, they hadn't found her.

0:33:480:33:53

And just as they're piecing the family tree together,

0:33:530:33:55

the cousin that Neil called earlier finally rings backs.

0:33:550:33:58

Hello, Mr Chambers? Hello, it's Neil Fraser. Thank you for calling back.

0:33:580:34:03

I think I may have got a message from your neighbour as well as I left a message on your answerphone!

0:34:030:34:08

Having a family member on the phone is a golden opportunity for Neil to double-check their research.

0:34:080:34:14

We have Bertie, Dolly, Reggie and...

0:34:150:34:20

..Artie.

0:34:220:34:23

Roger confirms all of his aunts and uncles and the fact that they were known by their second names.

0:34:230:34:29

It seems turning the names around was an inspired guess on Neil's part.

0:34:290:34:34

But Roger's wondering who in his family has died.

0:34:340:34:37

OK, who do you think's possible?

0:34:370:34:39

Right, OK. Yes, you are correct.

0:34:410:34:43

If we're dealing with the same John, yes, we're more than likely...

0:34:430:34:49

Unusually, Neil's revealed who's died.

0:34:490:34:52

Now he needs some more information from Roger.

0:34:520:34:55

There's Bertie who was married to Alice O'Connell,

0:34:550:34:58

I think they had just one daughter, Patricia.

0:34:580:35:03

Um, I'm yet to track down Patricia,

0:35:030:35:06

I know she was born in '49.

0:35:060:35:08

Not entirely sure where she is at the moment.

0:35:080:35:11

Oh, cos I know her father, Bertie, died in Elstree...

0:35:140:35:17

It's a great result for Frasers.

0:35:170:35:19

The call has led them to a second heir -

0:35:190:35:22

another cousin of Henry John Chambers, called Patricia.

0:35:220:35:25

Roger's proved invaluable to the research

0:35:280:35:30

but the important thing for Frasers is to sign him up

0:35:300:35:33

so they can help him submit his claim for his share of the estate.

0:35:330:35:37

OK, OK, well, it'll be my colleague, Bob Barratt, if we put down 5pm.

0:35:370:35:43

No problem and nice talking to you, sir. Hopefully Bob will be able to see you about 5pm today.

0:35:430:35:48

At last, Frasers are in a position to send their travellers out to see heirs

0:35:480:35:52

and, crucially, get their commission.

0:35:520:35:55

Bob Barratt's ready for the command.

0:35:550:35:57

Hi Bob, listen, we've got an appointment for you,

0:35:570:36:00

-I'd like you to go to Southampton!

-Southampton?

0:36:000:36:03

Yeah, I'm sorry about that!

0:36:030:36:06

We've got a cousin that Neil spoke to and has arranged about 5pm

0:36:060:36:10

or however long it takes you to get there - he's in there now.

0:36:100:36:14

-Speak to you later, Dave.

-Thanks, Bob, bye.

0:36:140:36:18

While Bob refuels for his 80-mile journey to Southampton,

0:36:180:36:21

Neil's feeling rather pleased with himself.

0:36:210:36:24

We took three or four very big,

0:36:240:36:28

wild stabs in the dark,

0:36:280:36:32

and relied on a bit of experience, a bit of luck,

0:36:320:36:34

and that's come through so it's possible that we're quite a bit ahead of other people.

0:36:340:36:39

It's possible that they're waiting for certificates and stuff to come back,

0:36:390:36:43

whereas we've now got onto it so it's fine.

0:36:430:36:46

Travelling heir hunter, Ewart, is also on the case.

0:36:470:36:50

He's being asked to head over to North London to see Henry John Chambers' other cousin, Patricia.

0:36:500:36:55

So after nine hours of gambling and guesswork,

0:36:570:37:00

the case is finally coming together.

0:37:000:37:02

And it seems now they're definitely on a winning streak.

0:37:020:37:05

They've discovered that the missing sibling, Doris,

0:37:050:37:08

that they added to the tree earlier,

0:37:080:37:10

had two children, Andrew and Jennifer.

0:37:100:37:13

That's two more of Henry's cousins and two more heirs.

0:37:130:37:17

David Pacifico calls Jennifer.

0:37:170:37:20

What's happened her is that a person related to your late mother has recently died

0:37:200:37:26

and this is the reason why we're trying to track down the Chambers family.

0:37:260:37:30

One of my colleagues is meeting with Roger probably as we speak,

0:37:300:37:34

who, as you know, lives down Southampton way.

0:37:340:37:37

Because I thought, you know, if you were going out a little later,

0:37:370:37:41

one of my colleagues who's there now could meet with you in half an hour.

0:37:410:37:44

But if that's not convenient, obviously...

0:37:440:37:47

Well, 11th is next Tuesday if you do want to pop in to see us or...

0:37:470:37:53

Thank you very much indeed. Thank you, bye-bye.

0:37:530:37:56

Doesn't want to be seen just now,

0:37:580:38:00

but she's coming up next Tuesday and wants to come in and see us.

0:38:000:38:03

I know!

0:38:060:38:07

They'll have to wait to see Jennifer,

0:38:080:38:10

but Bob Barratt's about to meet the first heir,

0:38:100:38:13

Henry John's cousin, Roger.

0:38:130:38:15

To make all their work worthwhile,

0:38:150:38:17

it's crucial he comes away with a signature.

0:38:170:38:19

And Ewart's just arrived at Patricia's house.

0:38:210:38:24

-Hello.

-Hello.

-Hi.

0:38:240:38:26

I wasn't sure which door to actually...!

0:38:260:38:28

-You've come through the back door but that's all right!

-Oh!

0:38:280:38:31

Frasers have called ahead, so she's aware that her cousin,

0:38:310:38:34

Henry John Chambers, has died.

0:38:340:38:36

The first thing that Ewart has to do

0:38:360:38:38

is confirm that Patricia is from the right family.

0:38:380:38:41

Right so... Aunts and uncles.

0:38:430:38:45

Erm, obviously coming down through your father's side,

0:38:450:38:48

that's the blood line we're doing.

0:38:480:38:50

-Can I just go and get the Bible?

-Yeah.

0:38:500:38:52

-The names we called them by weren't the names that they were christened.

-Right.

0:38:520:38:57

Lots of families keep books that contain all the crucial information about their history.

0:38:570:39:02

It gets passed through generations, and Patricia is the current holder of the Chambers' family Bible.

0:39:020:39:07

She knows that Henry John's father also went by his middle name.

0:39:070:39:12

Yes, he was, actually.

0:39:120:39:14

He wasn't Arthur. His actual name was Henry.

0:39:140:39:17

-Henry Arthur?

-Henry Arthur.

0:39:170:39:19

-Was he married?

-Yes.

0:39:210:39:22

Married to...?

0:39:220:39:24

He was married to Nellie. Nellie...Nellie...Nellie...

0:39:240:39:28

-And her maiden name was Cook.

-Had one son?

0:39:280:39:33

-Yes.

-What was his name?

0:39:330:39:36

-Johnnie.

-What do you know about Johnnie?

0:39:360:39:39

Johnnie Chambers was born on the 28th of August in 1926.

0:39:390:39:44

-He was actually nearer my mum's age...

-Yes.

0:39:440:39:49

..so when...

0:39:490:39:51

when my mum died, he came to visit us and just arrived down the bottom of the garden.

0:39:510:39:56

-I hadn't seen him since I was a little girl.

-In 2001?

0:39:560:40:00

-Yes, that's when I last saw him.

-That's when you last saw him.

-Hmm.

0:40:000:40:04

Confident they've tracked down the right heir,

0:40:040:40:07

Ewart now needs Patricia to sign up with Frasers,

0:40:070:40:10

so they can put forward her claim to her cousin's £60,000 estate.

0:40:100:40:15

Nice to meet you. Bye-bye.

0:40:150:40:17

In Southampton, there's no joy for Bob Barratt.

0:40:170:40:20

After all this hard work, he hasn't come away with a signature.

0:40:200:40:25

I've left an agreement with him,

0:40:250:40:27

I've completed a family questionnaire,

0:40:270:40:30

and hopefully Mr Chambers will ask us to make the claim on his behalf.

0:40:300:40:36

Has Ewart had more luck with Patricia?

0:40:360:40:38

-Thank you very much.

-You're very welcome. Cheerio.

0:40:380:40:42

-Take care.

-OK, thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

0:40:420:40:45

Seemed very happy.

0:40:450:40:46

She signed, so it's one-up for me. Fantastic.

0:40:460:40:50

Job well done for me, I should say.

0:40:500:40:52

I'm off home now.

0:40:520:40:54

It's pouring with rain and I just can't wait to get home.

0:40:540:40:58

But for Patricia, it's not about the money.

0:40:580:41:02

An unusual thing to happen.

0:41:020:41:04

You read about things like this happening

0:41:040:41:06

and, I think, the whole process of tracking people down

0:41:060:41:10

is incredibly exciting.

0:41:100:41:13

I found that - how people actually traced me -

0:41:130:41:16

was something that, um, was like being part of a detective story.

0:41:160:41:21

Pleased with how the day's panned out,

0:41:250:41:28

there's just one task left for David Pacifico -

0:41:280:41:31

to print out the completed family tree.

0:41:310:41:34

PRINTER DRAWER RATTLES

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But nothing's simple.

0:41:370:41:38

At least someone can see the funny side.

0:41:470:41:50

But things didn't get any easier for David.

0:41:590:42:02

Within a week, Roger Chambers decided not to use Frasers to help him submit his claim.

0:42:020:42:07

Patricia, who'd already signed, changed her mind,

0:42:070:42:12

but there was one piece of good news.

0:42:120:42:14

Their cousin Jennifer came into the office.

0:42:140:42:17

Any other questions at all you want to ask me?

0:42:170:42:20

When she saw the evidence of the team's hard work, she agreed to sign.

0:42:200:42:25

I'm quite happy and, as I say, I'm very impressed with the brochure.

0:42:250:42:29

-OK, David. Nice to meet you.

-Thank you very much.

-Thanks a lot.

0:42:290:42:32

It was particularly nice because we didn't have anything, really, to go on at the beginning,

0:42:320:42:37

and his birth wasn't under the name which we thought it was,

0:42:370:42:40

so it took a short while to get going. Once we did, we found the family.

0:42:400:42:46

It's very nice that we can actually now confirm

0:42:460:42:50

that the family are entitled, and will benefit, to his estate.

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