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Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down families of people who've died without leaving a will. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
They hand over thousands of pounds to long lost relatives | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
who had no idea they were in line for a windfall. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
On today's programme, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
the heir hunters lose time making wrong decisions. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
Sounds like we've got the completely wrong family here, Mrs Ellacot. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
And a new lead means reopening | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
one of their most perplexing cases to date. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
At some point, somebody said... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
"but Peter's mum, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
"she had two other children." | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Plus a list of unclaimed estates worth nearly £300,000. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Do you know anyone on it? | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Could thousands of pounds be coming your way? | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
Every year, over 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
When no family is found, their money goes to the government. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
That's when the heir-hunting companies step in. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
They race against each other to be the first | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
to track down any long-lost relatives entitled to inherit. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Fraser And Fraser is one of the oldest firms | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
of heir hunters in Britain. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:33 | |
Nicki is the half-sister... | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
In its 30-year history, the company has tracked down | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
over 50,000 heirs, entitled to a whopping sum of over £100 million. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
It's 7am, Thursday, in central London. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
Thursday is the most crucial day for the heir hunters | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
as it's when the government releases its weekly list of those | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
who've died with no known heirs. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Today's list has just gone live on the government website. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Experienced heir hunter David Pacifico is case manager today, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
overseen by head honcho Neil Fraser. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
David's first task is to select the case the team will investigate. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
I'm looking at the estate of Raymond Alfred Heath, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
who died in Peacehaven, in '07. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
We think there's probably a property involved. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
We could be talking about an estate of about £200,000, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
which is good news. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
The potential £200,000 value of Raymond Heath's property | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
makes this case worth looking at. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:42 | |
David looks up Raymond Heath in the electoral roll | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
and finds his last two addresses. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
For the last five years he was in a nursing home. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Prior to that there's a property which is a detached bungalow, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
has been lying empty for the last five years. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Raymond Heath lived in Peacehaven on the southeast coast. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
He'd been married to his wife Terri for 42 years. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Raymond was a popular member of the community | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
and renowned for his skill on the snooker table. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Ray was an amazing player. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
I called him the 80-year-old champion of the world when we played | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
because he was really that good. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
Six years before he died, he developed dementia | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
and went into the Bramber Care Home in Peacehaven. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
Terri stayed in their bungalow but three years later developed cancer. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
The couple didn't have any children | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
and in their time of need turned to Terri's nephew Kevin for help. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
When my aunt started to become unwell I spent a lot of time with my aunt. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
I was down there most weekends | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
and she was dependent upon me for financial help, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
in the way you really would be if you had a son. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
When Terri died, she hadn't left a will. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
By law, her husband automatically inherited the bungalow. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
When Raymond died three years later, the couple's friend Francis Harding | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
thought it was clear who would be entitled to the estate. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
A good few years ago when Ray first started to be ill, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
he had said to Terri... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Terri, I haven't got a relative left in the world. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
Now, you do as you want with the bungalow. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
She said to me that she wanted to leave the bungalow | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
to her nephew, Kevin Cleary. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
But Raymond hadn't left a will either. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
And because Kevin wasn't his blood relative, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
by law, he was entitled to nothing. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Nobody thought Raymond had any family | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
so his estate was taken by the Treasury | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
and his details were put on the government's website. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Now it's up to the team at Fraser And Fraser | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
to find out whether Raymond Heath does have | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
some living blood relatives entitled to the £200,000 estate. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
To earn their commission on this case, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
they need to piece together his family tree as quickly as possible, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
working out generation by generation | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
who his relatives are and if any are still alive. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
There will be other heir-hunting companies working on this case | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
and it's often the first heir hunter to crack the case | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
that wins the business of helping the heir | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
put in their claim to the Treasury. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
The researchers start by looking up Raymond Heath | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
on the Frasers' database of national birth records. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Straight away, they find something of interest. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
His mother is listed as Lilian Heath | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
but there's no father mentioned. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
We now know the deceased was born on 14th June 1917 and born in Pancras. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
Mother's maiden name, Heath. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
He could be illegitimate, possibility he may not be. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
With no father's blood line to trace, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
the likelihood of the heir hunters finding any relatives | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
has already halved. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
It's incredibly hard to get on to illegitimate families. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
We don't have one vital parent's marriage. We can't get ages. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
So the team are pinning all their hopes on Lilian Heath. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
They look up birth records for any Lilian Heaths | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
born at the turn of the century, and find dozens. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
But the team don't know which Lilian Heath is the right one. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
They double-check all the documents they have for Raymond | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
and one of them contains a clue. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
We picked up the marriage of the deceased... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
which gave us an informant. It gave us two initials for an informant. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
The witness at Raymond and Terri's wedding was an LR Heath. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
There's only one Lilian Heath with a middle name beginning with R | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
and that's Lilian Rose Heath, from Great Yarmouth. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
The team decide she must be Raymond's mother. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Lilian's place of birth gives the team another clue. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
The heir hunters know that families usually stay | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
near the area where they were born, so according to this rule, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Lilian's relatives and Raymond's heirs should be near Great Yarmouth, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
also known simply as Yarmouth. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
The heir hunters' HQ is 140 miles away in the heart of London. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
But Frasers employ a fleet of travelling heir hunters | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
who spend their Thursdays poised for action, in the driving seat... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
Thanks a lot, mate. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
..ready to go wherever the hunt takes them. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Their aim is to get to any heirs before rival companies | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
and sign them up, earning Frasers a slice of the inheritance pie. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
David wonders if they should send a travelling heir hunter to Yarmouth, Norfolk, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
so they can be on hand to sign up any heirs the team may find. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
The next question, if he's coming out up in Norfolk, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
do we want someone to start... have we got anybody to... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
OK. Paul Matthews. But... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-Let's get up to date. -..we haven't got anyone. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
But not one of Frasers travelling heir hunters | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
is anywhere near Norfolk. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
With only one name on the tree so far, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
this could be a huge waste of Fraser's resources. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
-It'll take Paul eight hours to get there. -OK. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
Although eight hours might be a slight exaggeration, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
the callout to Yarmouth, Norfolk is put on hold. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
The team need to push on with the office based research. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
And they have access to a fantastic resource. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Every ten years since the year 1801, the British Government | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
has taken a national population survey called the Census. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Each census lists the names | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
of all the people living at every address in Britain at that time. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
They are only released 100 years after they were taken, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
so the latest census the Frasers' team have is from 1901. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Research director Gareth Langford looks up Lilian Rose Heath | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
in this census and he hits a goldmine. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
It lists six of Lilian's siblings, living at the same address. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Children... Frederick William, Violet E and Daisy... | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
looks like May, an Ivy and an Olive. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
It's great news for the team. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
In one fell swoop, the census has revealed the names | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
of all of Raymond Heath's aunts and uncles. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
With no father known, these people are the key | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
to finding heirs to Raymond Heath's £200,000 estate. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
But Frasers are a way off yet. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
All of Raymond's aunts and uncles would have died, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
so it is their children and grandchildren the team need to find. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
Gareth takes up the challenge. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
We're obviously gonna have to look for marriages for these guys. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
Hopefully we'll be able to find some of those and get it up to date. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
The team soon find a marriage record for Frederick Heath and Ethel Cubit | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
Think they've had, let's see... one, two, three, four, five kids. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:19 | |
So Raymond Heath's uncle Frederick married Ethel and had five children. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
Elsie, Jack, Gertrude, Ethel and Frederick. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
All of these children would be cousins of Raymond Heath. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Gareth researches the marriages of these cousins and finds out | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
that Ethel Heath married a man also called Frederick. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
But this one has the unusual surname of Ellacot, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
making their offspring fairly easy to find. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I'm just doing an issue search of Ethel's marriage | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
to see if they have any children. I think I've got my first child here. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
Where are you? There we go. That's Derek Ellacot. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
That's a bit of a result. Excellent. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
Gareth identifies Ethel and Frederick Ellacot's son Derek, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
who would be Raymond Heath's cousin once removed. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
He also works out that Derek had a son called Russell | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
and he thinks he's just found Russell's number in the phone book. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
Gareth hands the information to case manager David Pacifico. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
Derek, I've got an old address for you. That's his son. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
-Derek's son? -Yeah. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
David puts in a call. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
But is he phoning the right Russell Ellacot? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Oh, hello. Is there a Mr Ellacot there, please? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
We're trying to trace descendants of an Ethel Ellacot, formerly Heath. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
Well, it sounds like we've got completely the wrong family here, I'm afraid, Mrs Ellacot. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
The phone number Gareth found is for a different Mr Ellacot, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
who has nothing to do with Raymond Heath. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
It's a blow for the team | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
and has lost them vital time in the race to find Raymond's relatives. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
All right. Thank you. Bye bye. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
So they're going to have to continue the hunt | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
for the Russell Ellacot related to Raymond Heath. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
That Russell was the son of Dennis, not Derek. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
That's interesting. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Gareth was thinking he could pop out for some sneaky lunch. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
But no such luck. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
It's back to the drawing board. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
The team have had a busy morning. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
That's annoying, isn't it? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
But they're still no closer | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
to finding any heirs to Raymond Heath's £200,000 estate. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
Coming up, will the heir hunters' luck change? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
Is your mother still alive? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
And the tragic story of a secret that tore a family apart. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
When Peter left, my nan was devastated. Absolutely devastated. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
There are cases that the professional heir hunters | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
find impossible to solve. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
Sometimes it takes a member of the public | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
to provide a crucial clue. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Jan Szulc died in 2006, in Coventry, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
aged 87, leaving an unclaimed estate worth £165,000. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:21 | |
Are you related to Jan? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:22 | |
Do you know someone who is? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Anne Elizabeth James died in Lampeter, in 2007, aged 69. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
She left £40,000 which went to the Treasury. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Are you part of Anne's family? | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Could you claim back her cash? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
Leroy Banton died in East London in 2004, aged 68. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
Leroy left an estate worth £29,000. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
Could you be entitled to Leroy's money? | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Do you know someone who is? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
If you have any information that could solve any of these cases, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
then take a look at our website... | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
..and follow details on what to do next. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
The team at Fraser And Fraser are working | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
on the case of Raymond Heath, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
who died without a will, leaving an estate worth an estimated £200,000. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
Raymond's friends thought his money would go straight | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
to his wife's nephew Kevin, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
but Kevin wasn't a blood relative and so, by law, is not entitled. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
Gareth has already tracked down Raymond's aunts and uncles... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
We've got one, two, three, four, five... | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
so that's six including Frederick. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
..and begun the search for any cousins | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
who might be entitled to the estimated £200,000 estate. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
But so far this morning, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
his research has only led him down a wrong path... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
It sounds like we've got the completely wrong family here, I'm afraid, Mrs Ellacot. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
..and Frasers have yet to find an heir. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
That's annoying, isn't it? | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
Gareth now decides to put the Ellacots on hold | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
and hopes he'll have more luck | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
with another of Raymond Heath's cousins, Jack, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
also a son of Frederick and Ethel. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
He works out that Jack Heath was born | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
on the 21st October 1914, in Yarmouth. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Thinking he might have already died, Gareth looks at the death records. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
He's hoping to find a Jack Heath who died near Yarmouth | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
but nothing is easy for the heir hunters today. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Unfortunately for us we've got two there. Two deaths. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Neither in the right area. One's in Manchester. One's in Newport. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
We don't know which is the right one. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
So, although Gareth has found two Jack Heaths with the right birthday, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
neither of them died anywhere near Yarmouth. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Are either of them the Jack Heath the team want? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
But at the moment we're struggling a little bit | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
to identify which one it is. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
Another clue is needed, and Gareth might have just found one. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
He's come across some information about Jack's sister, Elsie. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:12 | |
I've just got a...possible match for an Elsie S Heath. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:18 | |
She's the sister of Jack. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
She's the only one we've found. The only Elsie S and it's in Wales. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
Now, bearing in mind that the only two deaths we had for Jack, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
we had in Newport and Manchester. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
This marriage is in Newport | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
so it's making that Jack death in Newport look excellent now. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
But I think we need to follow that up... | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
-quite urgently. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Now the team think they've found records | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
for the right Jack and Elsie Heath, first cousins of Raymond. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Interestingly, neither is listed as from the Yarmouth area | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
but from 150 miles away in Newport, Wales. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Gareth now thinks that Newport might be the target area | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
for all of Raymond Heath's heirs, and he could be right. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Minutes later, he finds a record of two of Elsie Heath's sons | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
living near Newport. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
I've got potentially two addresses of two heirs on this Heath family | 0:17:15 | 0:17:22 | |
that we're trying to trace. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
David decides to call Ivor James, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
Elsie Heath's son and Raymond's cousin once removed. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
We're trying to trace a family by the name of Heath | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
regarding an unclaimed estate we're looking into | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
and I'm hoping you would be the son of an Elsie James, formerly Heath. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
After mistakes earlier in the day, David's even more keen to check | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
whether he's got the right Ivor James on the phone. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
We're trying to work out | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
if you knew where your mother originally came from | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
because I'm hoping she may have been from Norfolk. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
She was from... she was from Great Yarmouth. Right. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
And did she have a brother Jack? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
Right. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
Ivor's answers convinced David that he is a relative of Raymond Heath. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
But there's a surprise in store. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Is your mother still alive? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
Oh, indeed. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
Well, in that case, we think your mother could well be a beneficiary | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
to an estate of somebody that's recently passed away. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
David thought Ivor and his brother were the heirs, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
but as his 97-year-old mother Elsie is still alive, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
it is actually she who will be entitled. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
It is the breakthrough we wanted. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
The person I spoke to, we think, was a cousin once removed | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
but he's not entitled, his mother's still alive. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
David arranges for travelling heir hunter Paul Matthews to visit Elsie tomorrow... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
so Frasers can help her put in a claim for her share of the £200,000 estate. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
It's good news. But Gareth is all too aware | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
of how much more work they have to do. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
So, we just need to sort out the rest of it. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
David is keen to get things wrapped up. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
I want to get it all on the computer now | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
because tomorrow I'm going to Harrowgate for a long weekend. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Going off tomorrow morning. Back Tuesday. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
It's all right for some. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
I haven't had any time off for ages. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
For David Pacifico, the weekend starts here. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
-Night. -Night. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
But for the rest of the heir hunters, there's hard work ahead. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
No heirs have been signed up yet | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
and Gareth's still got the Ellacot family members to find. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
Coming up, Raymond Heath's unclaimed estate leads the heir hunters | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
to one of their oldest beneficiaries... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
-You're doing very well, I tell you. -I'm doing very well, considering. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
..and one of their youngest. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
In the last series of heir hunters, an appeal to the public | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
for help cracking a case the team started six years ago, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
gave Fraser And Fraser an astonishing new lead. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
The case was that of a Simon Alban, who died in February 2001, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
in Peckham, South London, leaving an estate worth £91,000. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:33 | |
Simon Alban was a loner, with no known occupation, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
who rarely spent any time in the house which he owned. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
In 1997, Simon's property caught fire. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
It took a team of firefighters 24 hours to put it out. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
Simon was never seen again. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Four years later, the property was sold and cleared out | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
and a grizzly discovery was made. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
A skeleton, presumed to be Simon Alban, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
was hidden amongst the debris. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Simon had no known relatives and hadn't left a will | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
but the sale of his property resulted in a £91,000 estate. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
It was down to the team at Fraser And Fraser | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
to find any heirs who might be entitled | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
but from the get go, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
case manager Marcus Herbert came up against a brick wall. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
The problem we had with his name was on the death, it's Simon Alban, otherwise Simon Alban-Angrove. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:30 | |
We tried all variants that we could look at for births in England and Wales. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
We couldn't find anything that would tie up at all. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Marcus still believed that if only they could crack the case, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
some heirs would exist. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
There had to be an answer out there somewhere. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
There's got to be family of some sort. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I mean, this is a man, he's born, he had parents. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Likelihood is he had siblings. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
If he didn't have siblings or surviving parents, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
you're talking about aunts, uncles, cousins. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
There had to be somebody out there or somebody out there at some stage. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
And after the last series was televised, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
it seemed Simon might have some family out there after all. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
When the appeal went out | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
we were contacted by somebody called David Angove | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
and he claimed that he was a relative of this gentleman. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
At first, Marcus wasn't sure whether this caller was genuine | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
because his surname was actually different | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
from that of his supposed relative. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
His name was David Angove. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
The deceased was Simon Alban-Angrove. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Added to this confusion, things got even more complicated. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
They said to us that the gentleman was actually born as Peter Harris. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:53 | |
And his mother had not been married when she'd had him. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
She'd left him with her sister who'd married a Mr Angove | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
and they brought him up as their own child. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
According to David Angove, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
Peter Harris was the illegitimate son of Maya Harris. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
As a tiny baby he was given to Maya's sister Sian, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
who had four children of her own. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Peter was never officially adopted by Sian but was brought up to believe | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
she was his real mother and that Maya was just an auntie. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Marcus tracked down Enid Lumsden, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
daughter of Brian and Peter's cousin once removed. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Growing up, Enid believed that Peter was her uncle. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
He was always in my life as far back as I can remember. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
I was born in 1951 and I remember back to when I was five, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
maybe 1956-ish, that he was always around. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
I never thought of him as my uncle, just my friend. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
He was very "way out", | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
very much of the '60s and he'd come up with | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
all these weird and wonderful ideas | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
that to me were so exciting because I was still a child. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Enid explained to Marcus how on his 21st birthday | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
Peter was told the truth about his parentage. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
There was apparently a family gathering of sorts. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
At that point, Mr Angove, his adoptive father took him to one side | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
and said, "Peter, this is your birth certificate," | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
showing him the birth certificate, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
showing that he was not his father, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
the woman he believed to be his mother wasn't his mother, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
were in fact his aunt and uncle. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
I can only imagine my grandfather being my grandfather, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
an ex-army man, everything was black and white. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
Everything was matter of fact. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
Here you are, boy. Here's your birth certificate. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
I can just see him doing that. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
At that point, Peter left the family home. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
It really affected him badly. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
He was cross. He was angry. He was upset. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
He had a right to know when he was younger that he was adopted | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
and he wasn't, and I can understand him running away. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Basically, that's what he did. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Peter disappeared and broke all contact | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
with the people he had for 21 years believed to be | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
his mother, father, brothers and sisters. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
It was not the outcome that anyone had wanted...or expected. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
When Peter left, my nan was devastated. Absolutely devastated. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
She couldn't understand why he would do it, why he made no contact. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
25 years after he had gone, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
my nan still had all his mail in a suitcase. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
She kept it because he might come back. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
It was a whole big brown suitcase full of mail. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
Peter clearly didn't put them out of his mind either. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
Nine years after he left home, he visited Enid. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
He came to where I was working with a bouquet of flowers | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
because he'd remembered it was my birthday | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
and he gave me these flowers and I never saw him again. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
With the background information filled in, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
Marcus now had to work out who of Peter Harris' new-found relatives | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
were entitled to claim his £91,000 estate. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
It was something of a conundrum. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Because he wasn't officially adopted by the Angoves, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
it would mean the entire Harris family, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
which would include the Angove family or descendents thereof, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
would be entitled, but not as close kin - | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
for instance, siblings, nephews, nieces, that kind of thing - | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
but as cousins, cousins once removed. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
If Peter Harris had been officially adopted by his aunt Sian, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
then by law, her children would be his brothers and sisters | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
and legally entitled to all of his estate. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
But as Peter was never formerly adopted, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
he is legally still the son of Maya. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Sian's children are his cousins and still could be entitled | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
but they would have to share the estate with Peter's other cousins. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
It took some time for Marcus to work out who was entitled to what. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
Then he received news that was to change everything. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
At some point, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
somebody said... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
but Peter's mum, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
she had two other children. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Coming up, will Marcus be able to track down Peter Harris' long lost sisters? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:27 | |
It's day two on the case of Raymond Heath | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
who died without leaving a will. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Yesterday, the team tracked down Raymond's first cousin, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
97-year-old Elsie Heath. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
An appointment was made | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
for travelling heir hunter Paul Matthews to visit. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
The team suspected there were more heirs to the estate | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
but Gareth had no luck tracking down the Ellacotts. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
Case manager David Pacifico left for a long weekend, and today | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
it's up to research director Gareth Langford to finish things off. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
Gareth has come in to work this morning | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
determined to find the elusive Russell Ellacott. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
He disappeared off the electoral roll in 2005 | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
and he's either moved from the address or passed away. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
He looks in the death records and quickly realises | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
why he couldn't get hold of him yesterday. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Yep. He's died. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
Died in 2005. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
He's very young. He was only born in 1960. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Now, if he has kids, obviously they'll be entitled. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:55 | |
Gareth looks up birth records and he's in luck. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
Russell has a daughter, Jessica, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
who lives in Hastings with her mother Dawn. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
She's only actually...I think, 17 years old... | 0:29:04 | 0:29:10 | |
so she's a minor, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
in which case we need to speak to her mother in this case. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:17 | |
She's a very distant relative of Raymond Heath | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
but an heir, nonetheless. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Top of my head, she's cousin three times removed. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
It's quite unusual to get someone that distant on these cases, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:30 | |
especially someone, I mean, Russell was born in 1960, so you know, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
we'd expect to be speaking to him. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
Unfortunately, he passed away in 2005, so his daughter's an heir. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
Unfortunately, she's ex-directory so the team can't call her up. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Marcus speaks to travelling heir hunter Bob Barrett | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
and gives him the job of visiting Jessica in Hastings. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Hello, Bob. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
It's me. Hello, mate. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:57 | |
You got your trunks with you? | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Shades on, Bob sets off for his seaside trip. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
Meanwhile, travelling heir hunter Paul Matthews has just arrived | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
at heir Elsie James' house. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Elsie is the only remaining child of Raymond Heath's uncle Frederick, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
making her the last of Raymond's first cousins. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
My mum. This is Elsie. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:21 | |
-Pleased to meet you, mum! -This is Paul. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
-Are you all right? -I'm fine, yeah. -You're doing very well, I tell you. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
I'm doing very well, considering. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
Very well. Absolutely. Where can I sit? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Aged 97, Elsie is accompanied by her two sons, Ivor and Kenneth. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
I'll ask your mum a few questions about herself, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
prove she's the right person | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
and we're going to take her back down memory lane | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
to ask what you know, or don't know. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Elsie reveals some astonishing family history. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
When she was a child, her mother Ethel died. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Died from a fever she had. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
-And she left the five of us. -Right. Yeah. I know she died young. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:06 | |
Her father, Frederick, remarried | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
but his new wife didn't want his children. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
Elsie saw a job advertised for a farmhand and decided to go for it. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:17 | |
She was only ten but still has memories of the day she arrived... | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
alone and on foot, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:22 | |
not knowing whether the farmer's wife would let her in. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
80 years later, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
the heir hunters have pieced back together Elsie's family tree. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Now, Paul asks Elsie to sign a contract, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
so they can help her put in a claim | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
for her share of Raymond Heath's £200,000 estate. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
-All the very best. -And you. -Nice meeting you, Mum! | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
Now you behave yourself. You have a smashing home. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
A smashing family. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
I'm coming back here to live. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
All the best, Ken. Nice meeting you. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
With a signed contract in his hand, Paul leaves a happy man. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
Over in Hastings, Paul's counterpart Bob has arrived at the home | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
of Raymond Heath's second heir, 17 year old Jessica Ellacott. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
Luckily for Bob, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
both Jessica and her mother Dawn are at home and he is welcomed in. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
-So, you're Miss Ellacott. E-L-L-A-C-O-T-T? -Yep. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:50 | |
Bob explains how Jessica is related to Raymond Heath. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
We've actually researched back to your great-great-great grandfather | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
-here to get to you. -Have you? | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Yes. So...been lots of research. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
That is lots of research, isn't it? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Jessica is Raymond's cousin three times removed. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
Although she never met Raymond, nor knew of his existence, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
she is entitled to a share of his £200,000 estate. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
Bob leaves the paperwork for Jessica and her mother to look over. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
Well, that's it then. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
Thanks very much for letting me do my bit. I hope you use us. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
Thank you very much for a lovely surprise. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
I hope it ends up being worthwhile for you | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
and you get a nice big fat cheque. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
-Thanks ever so much. -Thank you. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
-Bye bye. -OK. Bye bye. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
It's close of play on the case of Raymond Heath. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
It's been a successful investigation for the team | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
and a clear lesson on the importance of writing a will. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
Raymond Heath wanted his wife's nephew Kevin to inherit his fortune | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
but without a legal document, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
he wasn't entitled, and heirs were found that Raymond didn't even know. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
They'll receive money from someone they know nothing about, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
whereas Kevin, who's cared for Raymond in his later years, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
he's not actually gonna receive anything. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
It's why it's so important for people to leave wills. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Last year, an appeal for help | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
with a case that had remained unsolved for six years | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
gave Fraser And Fraser an astonishing new lead. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
A viewer claimed that the deceased, Simon Alban, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
was in fact born with the name Peter Harris | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
and had been unofficially adopted by his own mother's sister. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Marcus thought he'd found the heirs to the £91,000 estate, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
and that they were Peter Harris' cousins, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
but then he got some more news which changed the family tree altogether. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
At some point, somebody said... | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
"but Peter's mum, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
"she had two other children." | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
That person was 79-year-old Enid Johnson, who was the daughter | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
of another sister of Maya and Sian and Peter Harris' cousin. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
Well, I was able to furnish Fraser And Fraser | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
with the fact that the late Peter had two half-sisters. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
Mary and Marilyn, known as little ones as Cherry and Minty. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
Enid revealed that several years after having Peter, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
his mother Maya had had two more children, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Mary and Marilyn | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
and Enid remembered more than anyone else | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
about the difficult situations Maya had got herself into. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
First, by becoming pregnant with the man who didn't want to marry her | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
and then, by having two further children with another man. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
Because, you see, she couldn't marry their dad | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
because he was already married. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
And his wife was in a mental home. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:03 | |
So he was unable to marry. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
But they had these two lovely girls. Isn't it tragic? | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
You know, you get one black sheep in the family, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
but to think Auntie Maya was that, for me to take it in, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
that she was the black sheep, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
you know, it's very hard for me to take in cos I adored her. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
Everyone did. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Maya put her two daughters by this second man into a convent school | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
and never saw them again. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
We identified two that we thought | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
were probably the children of the deceased mother | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
and we obtained copies of the birth certificates | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
and low and behold, they were right. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Marcus now had the names of two half-sisters to Peter Harris. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
As close a kin to him than all of the family from the Angove side, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:57 | |
they were entitled to all of his £91,000. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Further research into these half-sisters showed that Marilyn had died | 0:37:00 | 0:37:06 | |
but had a daughter, Deborah, making Mary and Deborah Peter Harris' heirs. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:12 | |
Marcus got in touch with Deborah first. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
It was a surprise when I found out I'd got an uncle | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
because I didn't...ever recall my mum had got a brother. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
But then, my mum's mum left | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
when my mum was very young, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:30 | |
so initially I thought it must be a younger brother. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
Then Marcus explained very, very nicely | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
that he'd been born on the wrong side of the blanket | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
before my mum and my aunt had been born. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
Marcus was convinced that Deborah and Mary | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
were related to Peter Harris and that Peter Harris | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
was the same man as Simon Angrove. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
But putting a case together to convince the Treasury | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
was another matter. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Myself and Marcus were absolutely convinced | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
we'd found the right family. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
Trying to convince the Treasury when we can only write to them | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
was even more problematic. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
This has always been the problem. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
Trying to get to the bottom of whether Peter Harris | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
and Simon Alban-Angrove were the same person | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
because he never changed his name by Deed Poll, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
there was no legal change of name, nothing like that. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
Were that the case, it would have been easier to prove. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
When he left the family home when he was 21, he became Simon Peter Angove. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:35 | |
Then at some stage he added the name Alban, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
after his place of birth, St Albans. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
When his death was registered, it was Simon Alban-Angrove. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
The Angrove was a mis-spelling of Angove. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
And there were more than just name discrepanices to deal with. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
The date of birth on the birth of Peter Harris | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
and the date of birth on the death for Simon Alban-Angrove | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
didn't tie up exactly. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
The day was right. The month was right. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
The year was five years out on the death. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
Six years after starting the case, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
Marcus submitted the claim as best he could. And crossed his fingers. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
But the Treasury were not won over. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
We reached the point where we put a claim in to the Treasury solicitor's office | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
and quite rightly so, they threw it out and told me to go away. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
It was a disappointment for the team, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
but on the positive side, all the hard work by Frasers | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
had brought together the different sides of a very fragmented family. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
The great thing about this | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
is that we've actually now been able to reunite | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Mrs Johnson with Mrs Williams, the half-sister of the deceased. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
As I said, she's not seen her since she was a little girl. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
Enid and Mary were cousins who had known each other as children | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
but hadn't seen each other for decades. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
And when she said, "I'm known as Cherry," | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
that didn't surprise me either | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
because although I was only 17 and I'm now 78 not out, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:10 | |
I remember her nickname, you know, her little pet name. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
Cherry. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
It looked as if the Alban-Harris case was to be laid to rest here, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
but then there was another twist in the plot. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
We heard from a legal executive who had worked for a solicitor's | 0:40:24 | 0:40:30 | |
in South East London when the deceased walked in, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
asking him to, we believe, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
deal with his portion of his late mother's, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
the lady he believed to be his mother, Mrs Angove, her estate. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
He had a diary from 1981 | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
with a record of his meeting with the gentleman in it | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
and crucially, it wasn't Angrove in the diary. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
It was Angove. That's the point we knew...we've got it. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
With this new evidence, Marcus approached the Treasury again. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
And today, he's been given their final decision on the case. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
About midday today I got an email | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
from the Treasury solicitor's office | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
that they finally admitted the claim to the estate. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
They admitted that the person we put a claim forward for | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
was a half-sister of the deceased. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
Simon Alban-Angrove. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
I'm absolutely thrilled. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
It's the best news I've had in ages. It's fantastic. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
There is no way we could have solved this estate | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
without an appeal going out on the previous series | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
but it's absolutely brilliant. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:44 | |
We never thought we'd solve it. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
I think this must be one of the best pieces of research and the best... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
the hardest families we have ever put together | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
so to be involved in it and for it to be coming now is great news. | 0:41:55 | 0:42:01 | |
Marcus was over the moon when we eventually got the claim accepted. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
Drained by the whole thing, really. I feel completely exhausted. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
We've even got confetti now because... | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
We're celebrating in here, you see. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
But there's one last thing for Marcus to do. Call the heirs. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
The Treasury solicitor have admitted the claim. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
Your claim. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
And for the two heirs to the Alban-Harris £91,000 estate, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
it's also a time to celebrate. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
To inherit money from somebody you don't know is a bit surreal, really. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
It just seems a bit strange. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
You know, it's got that weird factor to it, you know? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
But, it's nice that Fraser | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
spent the time to track me down and let me know. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
If they hadn't have done, I'd be none the wiser. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
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