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'Today, the heir hunters are looking into an estate worth tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:08 | |
'The hunt is on for relatives who could be in for a windfall. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
'Could someone be knocking at YOUR door?' | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
'On today's show, the heir hunters race against the competition.' | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
She's signed with a competitor. So that's it. We're too late. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
'The team uncover the heartbreaking story of a soldier scarred for life | 0:00:43 | 0:00:49 | |
'by his wartime experiences.' | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Something dreadful happened to the man. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
May God forgive the people that did it to him. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
'Plus, how you could be entitled to an estate, where beneficiaries have not yet been found. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:04 | |
'Could a windfall be coming your way? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
'Every year in the UK, 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:18 | |
'If no relatives are found, any money left will go to the government. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:24 | |
'Last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
'There are over 30 specialist firms competing to stop this happening. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
'Heir hunters make it their business | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
'to track down missing relatives and help them claim their inheritance.' | 0:01:36 | 0:01:42 | |
At least we've got signatures on paper, and nice people. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
'It's Thursday morning at Fraser & Fraser, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
'the UK's largest heir hunting firm. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
'The Treasury just published their list of people who died without a will, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
'and companies across the country are racing to find heirs. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
'The team must work quickly, and partner Charles Fraser has identified a case | 0:02:08 | 0:02:14 | |
'that he thinks is worth working.' | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
We've decided to look at the case of Audrey Violet Coleman this morning. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:24 | |
We've established that she was living in a BUPA nursing home. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
So possibility that it's privately funded, which suggests that there's some value to the estate. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:35 | |
'Prior to living in a nursing home, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
'Audrey may have owned her property, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
'so the team are even more hopeful the case has value.' | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
Previous home went for 20,000. If it was hers, sold 2002... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
Got to be over 20K. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
'Heir hunters are paid a percentage of an estate's final value. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
'There must be enough money to cover costs and, hopefully, make a profit. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
'This is why they look for cases with property. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
'If Audrey owned her own home and sold it for £20,000, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
'the case could be worth upwards of this amount. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
'The competition are already one step ahead.' | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
Somebody's already phoned you? Sorry about that. Do apologise. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
Thank you. Bye-bye. HANGS UP | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Competition. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
'There are over 30 heir hunting firms operating in the UK. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
'All have access to the Treasury's list and all will target the most valuable estates. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:37 | |
'The team pull out all the stops to get to the heirs before their rivals.' | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
Bob is on his way to the nursing home. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
'Audrey Violet Coleman died 26 September 2009 in Dartford, Kent. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
'She was happily married to her first husband, Roland, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
'until his untimely death in 1968. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
'She is fondly remembered by Roland's nephew, Tom Hutson.' | 0:04:02 | 0:04:08 | |
She was a very quiet-spoken person, quite slim. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
She never wore an awful lot of make-up. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
She was just a down-to-earth, lovely person. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
She made you very welcome and always made a fuss of you. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
Always. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
She liked to have a flutter on the horses. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
She'd never speak about it, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
but we knew that's what she used to do, virtually every day. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I don't think she won a great deal. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
I don't think there's any hidden accounts. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
If there is, it'll be a shock to everybody and a bonus to somebody! | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
'The team must establish whether Audrey has any close relatives | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
'who could be heirs to her estate. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'Senior researcher Alan Riches discovers that she was married twice.' | 0:04:53 | 0:05:00 | |
I've identified her first marriage to Roland Hutson in 1944 Wandsworth. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
He dies in 1968 in Dartford, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
and she remarries a guy called Tildon Coleman | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
in 1974, in Dartford. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
'Audrey outlived both her husbands and it seems she had no children. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:21 | |
'There is a stepdaughter from her second marriage. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
'Although not an heir herself, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
'case manager Tony Pledger hopes she can provide information about Audrey.' | 0:05:27 | 0:05:33 | |
She was an only child? | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Therefore, we have to start looking at uncles and aunts and cousins. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
That was me speaking to a stepdaughter of the deceased, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
who confirmed that the deceased had no children herself. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
There were... There is talk of relatives but they couldn't find any for the funeral. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:56 | |
'Research is progressing very fast. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
'Despite rumoured competition, the team are forging ahead | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
'and are determined to crack this case first. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
'In the absence of close family, it's time to cast the net wider, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
'starting by identifying Audrey's parents.' | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
The deceased's father may have died in March 1958 in Wandsworth, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
which would have him born about 1896-ish. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
There are quite a few possibilities of the father's death. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
The deceased married in Wandsworth. I think that's her father. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
'If Alan has identified Audrey's father, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
'census records show that he had two siblings.' | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
One of them died in 1968. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
The sister Edith may have died as a spinster. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
'Alan believes Audrey's father was a Henry Bardsley, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
'who married an Ethel Eaton in 1919. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
'His two siblings would be Audrey's uncle and aunt, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
'but the only birth record he can find for a Henry Bardsley | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
'is a long way away from Wandsworth, where the family appear to settle. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
'Case manager Frances Brett is worried they may be on to the wrong family.' | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
Until we can acquire a copy of his marriage certificate, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
in 1919, when he married Ethel Violet Eaton, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
we can't be 100% sure that we're working along the right lines. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
'Alan sends researcher Jo to Hammersmith Register Office to pick up the marriage certificate. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:34 | |
'In the meantime, the team research the maternal side of the family. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
'They discover from census information | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
'that Audrey's mother, Ethel Eaton, had one sister, Ellen. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
'Ellen had three daughters, Freda, Elsie and Jean, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
'all of whom had children.' | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
One of her daughters, Freda Gale, has passed away in Hampshire. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
We're trying to find her three daughters. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
We've just managed to find one of them, her youngest daughter. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
We've got her phone, so we'll be calling her very shortly. Hopefully, the first people to call. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:11 | |
'The team are making great progress. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
'It's only 11 o'clock and they've found who they think is a first heir, a cousin once removed.' | 0:08:14 | 0:08:21 | |
Right, I've now jumped on your case of Coleman. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Isn't it nice to have somebody that's keen? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
-She's up-to-date on the phone. -Great. Whereabouts? -Basingstoke. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
'All they need to do now is give her a call and hope the competition haven't beaten them to it.' | 0:08:34 | 0:08:41 | |
My name's Tony Pledger, from a company of probate researchers. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
What's happened is a relative of your mother-in-law has died | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
and left several thousands pounds and no valid will... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
'Unfortunately, it's bad news.' | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
OK. All right. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Not going anywhere. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
'It looks like a rival company may have got there first. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
'The team are now under real pressure. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
'If the competition sign up all the heirs, they won't get paid for any research they've done. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
'It's time to enlist the help of the travelling researchers. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:23 | |
'The company employs a team of regional heir hunters, ready to hit the road at a moment's notice.' | 0:09:26 | 0:09:34 | |
We're trying to find a closer kin. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
'From picking up certificates | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
'to checking records and talking to neighbours, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
'their role is crucial in the race to sign up heirs. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
'Dave Hadley is in the southeast, within easy reach of another heir. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
'She is also a cousin once removed through Audrey's aunt, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
'and will be entitled to a share of Audrey's estate.' | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
I'm half a mile from that postcode you gave me in Basingstoke. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
'OK. Well, the tree's downloadable, if you wanted it.' | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
-Right. -'See how you get on.' | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Bye. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
She is, in fact, a cousin once removed to the deceased, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
through the maternal side of the family. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
See if she's prepared to see me. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
'Armed with the family tree, and with the competition on his heels, Dave heads towards Basingstoke.' | 0:10:23 | 0:10:30 | |
We've got competition, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
so it's important that we speak to these people as soon as we can. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
Hello. I wanted to speak to Valerie Winkworth. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
I'm really sorry. You've had a wasted journey. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
-Have you signed the agreement? -I have, dear. Sorry. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
I'll leave you that card anyway, in case there's any problems. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
Right, I've just spoken to Mrs Winkworth | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and she's already signed with one of the competitors. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
So, that's it. We're too late. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-They must be quick off the mark. -'Extremely quick.' | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
She's actually signed the agreement. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
You're getting adept at driving up and down the motorway pointlessly! | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
'The team thought they'd done well to find these heirs in four hours. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
'They are baffled as to how another company got there first.' | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
I'm surprised that they got there so quickly. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
It could be they started at midnight | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
and have been beavering away for eight hours. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
It's not looking terribly productive. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
'Coming up, the team finally track down an heir who hasn't already been snapped up.' | 0:11:47 | 0:11:55 | |
He hasn't been contacted by anybody else so, fingers crossed, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
we might get one heir on this job. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
'Will they make it to the beneficiary before the competition?' | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
'Sometimes, heir hunting cases can take years to solve, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
'and involve research in several different countries. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
'And sometimes, they reveal heartbreaking stories. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
'This happened on the case of Wiktor Dynak, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
'who crossed many borders in his dramatic life before settling in the UK. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:31 | |
'Wiktor died in August 1997, in Richmond, Surrey. He was 88. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
'He spent the last six years of his life | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
'in the Royal Star & Garter Home for ex-servicemen. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
'Avril Bearsden was a nurse there, and remembers Wiktor well.' | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
All the people at the Royal Star & Garter Home | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
all seemed to have families or friends from their war days. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Wiktor was the only person | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
that I have no recollection of anybody ever coming to see him. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
When they don't have anybody in the whole world, you warm towards them. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
I certainly warmed towards Wiktor. I thought the world of him. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
'Wiktor left an estate of £20,000, but died without leaving a will. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
'His case was first taken up by a company abroad, who then passed it | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
'to Hector Birchwood at Celtic Research.' | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
This is a slightly unusual case, in that we didn't contact our agent | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
in Poland or the Ukraine. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Our Ukranian partner contacted us. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
They thought that a competitor was working on the estate of Mr Dynak. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
They also wanted to work on this estate. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
'Hector works with his father, Peter Birchwood. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
'Together, they have over 40 years' experience of tracking down heirs. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
'Like a lot of heir hunting firms, they work with agents across Europe. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
'The only information Hector had to go on was a name and date of birth.' | 0:13:58 | 0:14:05 | |
The first stage is, once we have a date of birth, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
to check whether we have a birth in the United Kingdom | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
which, obviously, there wasn't in this case. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Then, given his age, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
he was born in 1909, he was ripe for being shot at | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
and shooting at people during World War II. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
So my hunch was that there should be some military record somewhere. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
'Hector's hunch proved correct.' | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
When I contacted the Ministry of Defence here, they confirmed that, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
indeed, Mr Dynak had fought for the Allies under British command, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
as I would have expected him to. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
So that led us down a new avenue of research. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
'At the Star & Garter, Wiktor was a reclusive character | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
'who played his cards close to his chest.' | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
Always had a look about him that was vague, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
scared of people, apprehensive about who he let into his life. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
He talked when he wanted to talk. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
He gave some memories of his childhood and what happened to him, but he knew when to stop. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
He didn't want to go further and we couldn't ask him to. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
'Wiktor gradually let his guard down and he and Avril became friends.' | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
As ward manager, I used to do the medications round. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
I would knock on his door and he would put his hand out to take his medications. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:36 | |
After a while, he would invite me in. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
Then, at Christmas, he always invited me in to have a sherry, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
so that was real progress. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
'Having established that Wiktor was in the army, Hector obtained a copy | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
'of his military record, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
'and piece together the story of his life.' | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
It provided a wealth of information. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
We found out that the deceased was born in Russia, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
close to the Black Sea, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
which was a surprise, given that we thought he was Polish or Ukranian. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
But according to his army record, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
he seems to have completed his high school in Warsaw. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
So, for whatever reason he was in Russia and was born there, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
he then seems to have gone back to Poland | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
and then studied. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Then the next bit of information that we got was, before the war, he ran a butcher's shop in Lublin. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:36 | |
'When the Second World War started, Wiktor's life was to change forever. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
'In September 1939, the Germans invaded Poland. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
'Wiktor enlisted in the Polish army and was immediately caught up | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
'in one of the most devastating attacks the country had ever faced.' | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
The September campaign was very painful and very difficult | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
for the Polish army because, first of all, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
the Germans used new tactics, namely Blitzkrieg. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Secondly, Germans attacked on 1st September | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
and the Soviet Union attacked on 17th September. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
When all the Polish forces were directed against the Germans, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
they were shot in the back by the Russian army. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
'When the Polish were defeated, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
'Wiktor appears to have escaped to Romania.' | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
The Polish command issued orders to retreat, as far as possible, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
to Romania and Hungary. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
And it seems that Wiktor has done it. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
'And from Romania, he made his way towards France.' | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
A number of Polish soldiers who managed to escape to Romania | 0:17:53 | 0:17:59 | |
wanted to continue fighting. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
There were all sorts of illegal ways | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
of crossing over a number of countries in order to reach France, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
who was still fighting the Germans. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
'Wiktor's record | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
'confirms he enlisted in the Polish forces under French command. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
'But, in June 1940, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
'the French suffered a shock defeat at the hands of the Germans.' | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
In 1940, the collapse of France was a great shock for everybody. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
It was considered that the French army was the most powerful army | 0:18:32 | 0:18:38 | |
on the European continent. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
And that powerful army was defeated within a few weeks | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
by the Germans. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
'At this point, Polish soldiers had two options - | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
'hand themselves over to the Germans, or escape to Britain.' | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
All those Polish soldiers who were...or could escape, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:04 | |
on the radio, they were given instruction or message | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
that they should go to whichever French port they could reach. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
An agreement was reached with the British government | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
that all Polish soldiers who got to one of the ports would be picked up | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
and brought to United Kingdom. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
'It appears that Wiktor made it to a French port | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
'because, on 27 June 1940, he arrived on British shores. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
'He was likely to have been sent to Scotland | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
'to defend the Scottish coast against a German attack from Norway. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
'In 1943, Wiktor's fighting days were brought to an end | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
'when the medical board declared him health category D - unfit for military service.' | 0:19:46 | 0:19:52 | |
There must have been something very wrong with Wiktor's health, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
because category D almost meant demobilisation or an office job. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:04 | |
'In later life, Wiktor suffered from very poor eyesight.' | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
His eyes were light-sensitive, so he would have the curtains drawn, maybe open a chink. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:14 | |
It remained very dim in his room. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
'It's likely that Wiktor's eyesight kept him away from the front line, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
'and he remained in an office job until the end of the war. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
'Wiktor stayed in Britain and joined the Polish Resettlement Corps, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
'set up to prepare Polish soldiers for life in the UK. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
'Something had happened to Wiktor during those years of conflict | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
'which appears to have haunted him for the rest of his days.' | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
I don't know what it was. I would guess at torture that was mental. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
I think something absolutely dreadful happened to the man. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
May God forgive the people that did it to him. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
'Coming up, would heir hunter Hector and his colleagues in eastern Europe | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
'be able to find beneficiaries to his £20,000 estate?' | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
We have somebody who's born in Russia, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
whose family name is Polish, who moves great distances within Poland. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
The records are not easy to come by. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
'Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
'Millions of pounds are paid out to heirs, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
'but there is always a handful of cases that remain unsolved. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
'Could you be the heirs they've been searching for? | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
'Could you be in line to inherit a lump sum worth hundreds, thousands | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
'or even millions of pounds? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
'Estates stay on the list for 30 years. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
'Today, we're focusing on three names. Are they relatives of yours? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
'Evelyn Bamberger died in Paddington, London in July 2000. | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
'She was 85 years old. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
'If no heirs are found, her money will go to the government. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
'Did you know Edmund Kurant, from Birmingham? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
'He died in March 2002. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
'He is likely to have been of Polish descent, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
'but no relatives have been traced in the UK or abroad. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
'Also on our list is Phyllis Ellen McCue | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
'from Letchworth, Hertfordshire. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
'She died just four days before Christmas in December 1999. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
'So far, no-one has come forward to claim her estate. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
'If the names Evelyn Bamberger, Edmund Kurant | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
'or Phyllis Ellen McCue mean anything to you or someone you know, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
'an unexpected windfall could be coming your way.' | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
'Heir hunters at Celtic Research have been looking into the case | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
'of Wiktor Dynak. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
'He died in Richmond in Surrey, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
'leaving an estate worth £20,000. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
'Hector Birchwood obtained his military record which stated that he was born in Russia, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
'grew up in Poland | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
'and enlisted with the army at the start of the Second World War. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
'Wiktor had crossed many borders during his lifetime. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
'It was clear that Hector was going to have his work cut out.' | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
We have somebody who's born in Russia, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
whose family name is Polish, who moves great distances within Poland. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
The records are not easy to come by. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
'Luckily, Wiktor's military record | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
'also provided crucial personal information | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
'which would help Hector make progress on the case.' | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
One thing we discovered from his military record | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
was that he was a Roman Catholic. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
This is really important in our research, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
because at the time of his birth, until the 1950s in Ukraine or Russia | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
you didn't have civil registration, everything is on parish records. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
The other vital clue that we've got were the names of his parents. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
We've also got his mother's maiden name. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
'Hector was able to pass this information to his agents | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
'in Poland and the Ukraine, so they could search for baptism records.' | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
We really had to have a two-pronged approach. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
My Ukranian agents would be working on the Russian...archives. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:40 | |
And my Polish agents would then be in charge of finding out about the family in Lublin. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:47 | |
Perhaps at the time we weren't sure the family would still be in Lublin. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
We weren't sure the records would be there. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
But we knew the family had been, for many decades, in that town. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
'Like many Poles, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
'when the war ended, Wiktor did not return to Poland.' | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
In 1945, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Poland lost its independence, due to the political situation. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
The Soviet Union took over Poland. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Many Polish soldiers were born in the eastern part of Poland, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
in territories taken over by the Soviet Union, so there was no way of going back home. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
'The British government solution to this problem | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
'was the Polish Resettlement Corps.' | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
The Polish Resettlement Corps was set up in September 1946 | 0:25:33 | 0:25:39 | |
by the British government. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
The main purpose was to prepare Polish soldiers | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
for a new life in Great Britain or abroad. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
It was simply to help them | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
to transit from military life | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
into a civilian life. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
'Wiktor joined the Polish Resettlement Corps in October 1946, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
'stationed in one of many camps around Britain.' | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
There were about 265 camps around Great Britain. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
The living conditions were very basic. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
Inside one Nissen hut there were usually two families accommodated. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
In most cases, no electricity. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Hot water once a week. One basic stove. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
No toilets. Toilets were organised outside. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
'Zpigniew Siemaszko was himself stationed at one of the camps, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
'and remembers these basic conditions.' | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
In winter, when you woke up in the morning, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
there was snow outside your bed | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
and you had to put a balaclava hat on your head, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
otherwise it was too cold. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
'The Corps offered people like Wiktor the possibility of studying | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
'or training for a job.' | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
One of the main purpose was to prepare Poles for British life. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:06 | |
English language was a very important part of this process. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
They could also apply for all sorts of studies | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
and then vocational training. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
'Many Poles went on to get jobs in Britain and marry English girls.' | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
As far as girls are concerned, there were no Polish girls. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
Hardly any. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
For example, I, myself, for about two years, I can't remember hearing, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:35 | |
or perhaps very seldom, a female talking in Polish. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
The best way of learning English was to have a girlfriend. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
Quite a number of ex Polish soldiers married Scottish and English girls. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
'There are no traces of Wiktor ever having married in Britain. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
'The reasons remain unknown, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
'but it could be that his heart was broken by something terrible | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
'that happened to him in Poland in 1939.' | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
Wiktor got engaged to a girl. I do believe he said it was in Poland. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
'Wiktor's family were cruelly taken from him when the Nazis invaded.' | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
Somebody took them away - his mother, his father | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
and his fiancee. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
His last view was them being taken away. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Why it wasn't him, I don't know, but he always will say, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
"I saw them taking them away." | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
Later on in his life, he talked briefly about a concentration camp. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
'When the Germans invaded Poland, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
'hundreds of thousands of ordinary people were either murdered | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
'or rounded up and sent to prisons or concentration camps.' | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
It is considered that only Jews were taken to concentration camps | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
but the numbers were, more or less, even - | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
Christian people and Jewish people in the worst known camp, Auschwitz. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
The only difference was that Jews had to wear a David star | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
and Poles had to have a large capital P on their armbands. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
'Hitler's plan was to turn eastern Europe into part of greater Germany. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
'He gave his commanders permission to kill, without pity or mercy, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
'men, women and children of Polish descent. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
'It is likely that Wiktor's family were victims of the genocide | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
'and the experience scarred Wiktor for life.' | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
His memories were just too bad. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
He would get emotional. He would cry. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
Then we knew that we would stop talking. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Nobody could go through the experiences he went through without being damaged. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:47 | |
He lost everybody. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
'One member of Wiktor's family does seem to have survived the camps, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
'as Hector was about to discover.' | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
At the end of the war, many families had been torn apart. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
People in different parts of eastern Europe wanted to know | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
whether their son or daughter was in a labour camp or migrated to the UK, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:11 | |
or gone to the United States. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
So many would write to organisations like the Red Cross, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
which would find some information and either forward on a letter | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
or give them a new address to write to. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
'This is exactly what Wiktor's mother did. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
'She had somehow survived, and was desperately trying to find her son.' | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
She wrote to the Ministry of Defence, through the Red Cross, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
to find out where her son was, and she gave an address in Lublin. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
'This address provided the heir hunters with the final clue.' | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
We knew that the family was centred around Lublin, or at least had been. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:54 | |
We could then focus our research in that small city in Poland, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
and we were able to crack the case. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
'Concentrating their research in Lublin, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
'the agents in Poland were able to track down surviving members | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
'of Wiktor's family, who would be heirs to his estate.' | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
My Polish agents were able to find | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
three first cousins once removed, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
who, I believe, knew of the deceased, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
but were not in direct contact. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
It's always satisfying to know that you found the right family | 0:31:23 | 0:31:29 | |
and they'll be getting the money instead of the government. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
After three years of work, it's important to be able to look back, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
and, actually, we learned a great deal from it. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
In that we now have a method by which we can research, economically, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:49 | |
cases that are not very high value | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
but, nevertheless, we can find families in eastern Europe. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
'Wiktor had no communication with the cousins whom Hector found. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:03 | |
'It's unclear whether Wiktor's mother managed to track him down. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
'Nothing is known about Wiktor's life from when he left the Corps in 1948, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:14 | |
'to the day he arrived at the Royal Star & Garter Home in 1990.' | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
I heard varying stories about where Wiktor had come from. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
Somebody recollects that he lived in a flat | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
in the Richmond area. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
Other people think he didn't have a home at all. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
I really don't know where he came from. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Wherever it was, he wasn't looking after himself or being looked after. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
'Wiktor had a difficult life | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
'and was obviously tortured by his memories. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
'But he spent his last years | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
'surrounded by people who cared for him.' | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Wiktor had no-one in the world and I felt honoured | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
that he would allow me into his room and we became friends. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
'It's a fitting tribute that the money he saved | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
'will go back to his family | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
'in the homeland he left so many years before.' | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
'The heir hunters in London are working on the case of Audrey Violet Coleman. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:22 | |
'She passed away in 2009 in Dartford, without leaving a will. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:28 | |
'Her estate is worth a possible £20,000, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
'but rival companies have already signed up several heirs.' | 0:33:31 | 0:33:37 | |
We get it at 9.30, send somebody round there, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
and according to Dave who's been to see her, she's already signed up with them. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:46 | |
'So the team at Fraser & Fraser must pull out all the stops | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
'to get to the remaining heirs. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
'They've made good progress on the paternal side, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
'but have been waiting for Audrey's parents' marriage certificate. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
'This certificate has finally arrived.' | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
I have the details of the deceased's parents' marriage on 2 August 1919 in Hammersmith. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:12 | |
It does confirm all the information as being correct. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
The deceased's father, Henry, was the son of a Henry, a hat maker, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
which ties up with the census. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
'Audrey's father, Henry, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
'was the son of Henry Bardsley and Clara Greenfield. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
'He had five siblings, three of whom died in infancy. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
'The remaining two - Robert and Edith - had no children. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
'There will be no heirs on the paternal side of the family. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
'The team concentrates on the maternal side.' | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
We've got three cousins once removed on the mother's side. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
We're keeping our fingers crossed that the case is worthwhile doing. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:56 | |
'Although Audrey had no children, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
'she was close to the family of her first husband, Roland. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
'They married in June 1944 in Wandsworth, south London. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
'Theirs was a happy marriage, which lasted more than 20 years.' | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
Aunt Audrey married Uncle Roland. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
We knew him as Uncle Roly, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
because he was quite short and quite stout. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
The times we had in their company, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
they were always having a good laugh and a banter between themselves. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
'Sadly, Audrey's happiness was not to last. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
'In 1968, Roland died suddenly of a heart attack while at work.' | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
He worked for Blue Circle cement company, on long conveyor belts | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
from the pits up to the machinery, which crushed the chalk et cetera | 0:35:45 | 0:35:52 | |
to go into the cement kilns. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Unfortunately, he went off to work one day, as usual. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
He was going up one of the conveyor belts | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
and had a massive heart attack and dropped dead. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
'Roland was only 55, and Audrey's life was torn apart.' | 0:36:05 | 0:36:12 | |
Aunt Audrey was very, very upset and it took her a long time to get over | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
that part of her life. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
Because they had no children, she was on her own | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
from that day onwards. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
'Happily, Audrey did get married again, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
'to a man called Tildon Coleman in 1974.' | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
Aunt Audrey and Mr Coleman | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
were good friends for a long time before they got married. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
It made Aunt Audrey very happy to think she found a friend | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
she could spend the rest of her life with. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
'Back in the office, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
'the team's under pressure to sign up heirs. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
'So far, they've been beaten by the competition at every turn. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
'If they sign up one heir, they'll earn a commission and may still cover their costs.' | 0:36:59 | 0:37:06 | |
Perhaps we could find this James Nicholson fellow. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
'Audrey's maternal aunt, Ellen, had three children - | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
'Freda, Elsie and Jean. Elsie married Arthur Nicholson. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
'They had a son, James, who's living in Twickenham. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
'Unfortunately, they're having trouble contacting him.' | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
It's the last house in the street. He's ex-directory. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
None of his neighbours on one side are on the phone, either. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
'It looks like a job for Dave Hadley.' | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
That address in Twickenham, it is on your way home. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
I'm on me way to Twickenham, Tone. I'm allowed to have lunch, am I? | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
DIAL TONE | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
Right. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:51 | |
'Everything is now riding on Dave's meeting in Twickenham, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
'as this could be the last hope of signing up an heir.' | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
I'm making my way there now, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
in the hope that the competition haven't been there first. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:07 | |
I suspect they probably have. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
'Dave finds the house, but it appears there's no-one at home. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
'However, a car outside attracts his attention.' | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
-Does Mr Nicholson live there? -He does. He's at work. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
Right, well, that was a bit of luck. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
I just caught Mr Nicholson's daughter leaving. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
There's nobody at home but she was able to give me his mobile number. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
I'm going to give that a ring. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
'Dave gets straight on the phone and finally gets the breakthrough | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
'he's been waiting for.' | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
I've spoken to Mr Nicholson and he works at Heathrow Airport. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
He's in a meeting at the moment, but he's happy to see me after. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
So I've made a tentative appointment for 3 o'clock. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
At Heathrow Airport. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
It would seem that he hasn't been contacted by anybody else. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
So, fingers crossed, we might get at least one heir on this job. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
'Dave has also discovered that Mr Nicholson's mother is alive. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
'She will be the heir instead of her son, but she's very elderly. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
'James handles all her affairs so he's the person they need to see. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
'Dave puts in a call to the office to update them.' | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
He confirmed that his mother is still alive and nobody else has been in contact, to date. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:38 | |
I thought that I'd go and see him at three, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
and then make some arrangements to get to see his mum. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
His mother, who's elderly, alive and well and living in a care home, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
is a full-blood cousin of the deceased on the mother's side, and is obviously entitled. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:57 | |
Could be entitled to half the case, cos we've got nobody on the father's side. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
'The team have invested a great deal of time and manpower in this case | 0:40:02 | 0:40:08 | |
'and, finally, it looks like they've got their first heir. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
'The pressure is on Dave to get a signature. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
'First, he needs to make sure that James and his mother are actually related to Audrey Coleman.' | 0:40:14 | 0:40:22 | |
-Your mother's maiden name? -Gale. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
-She had two sisters. -Right. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
Aunt Freda and Jean. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
So we've got Freda... Did you know her middle name was Ivy? | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
Er, yes, I do, actually. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
'James's mother Elsie is the heir in this case. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
'As she's elderly, Dave needs to determine what her mental state is.' | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
-I can see that your mother was born in 1925. -Yeah. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
You mentioned that she's in an old people's home. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
-Is she capable of making decisions? -No. I act on her behalf. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
-Have you got any legal...? -I've got a third party mandate. She's got Alzheimer's, so... | 0:40:57 | 0:41:04 | |
-Um... -You could actually make decisions on her behalf? -Yes. -Quite legally. -Yeah. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:10 | |
'In return for an agreed percentage, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
'the company will help James claim Elsie's share of Audrey's estate. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
'But the decision to sign now lies with James.' | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
PHONE RINGING | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
'Tony waits nervously | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
'to hear whether all their hard work has paid off.' | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
-'Hello.' -Hello, Dave. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
How you doing? Everything all right? | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
'They still don't know how much the estate is worth.' | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
We've got no idea how much it might be. Neither has anyone else. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
'But the team's hopeful they'll get a signature.' | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
The chap wants to talk it through with his wife. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Hopefully, that person might be entitled to half the estate. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:55 | |
'Tony has got the news he was waiting for. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
'Although James hasn't signed an agreement, he seems happy with everything that's been said. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:05 | |
'Several weeks later, he signs with the company | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
'and they learn that the estate is worth £15,000. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
'Half will go to James's mother, Elsie.' | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
Tough competition on this case. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
I'm pleased to say that the heir that we are representing | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
is a closer degree of relationship to the deceased | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
than the heirs represented by our opposition. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
It would seem, therefore, that she is going to be entitled to half the estate. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:37 | |
So, clearly, it means that the sum we will receive for our work in this | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
will, I think, be a reasonable amount and cover our costs. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:47 | |
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