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Welcome to Heir Hunters where we follow the search for living family | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
of people who've died without leaving a will, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
hoping to unite them with a forgotten fortune. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Today the heir hunters are dealing with an estate which could be | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
worth an estimated £200,000. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
They only need to go somewhere we don't know about and have a kid. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Somewhere out there are some long-lost relatives who have | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
no idea they're in line for a windfall. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Coming up on today's programme - | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
a common family name proves a real headache for the heir hunters. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
Evans in Wales is a worst-case scenario really. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
A Victorian school produces a massive windfall | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
and an unusual challenge for the team. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Because quite a lot of the people concerned in these cases died in | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
the 19th century, a lot of the wills we have to look at are handwritten. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
And I'll be delving further into the world of the written will, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
both its history and its hilarity. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
"I give and bequeath unto Francis Smith, my wife, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
"the sum of one shilling of lawful money of Great Britain." | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Wow. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
He left it all to his mistress. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Plus how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates where | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
beneficiaries still need to be found. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Every year in the UK | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
If no relatives are found then any money that's | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
left behind goes to the Government. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Last year they kept £14 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
That's where the heir hunters come in. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
They make it their business to track down missing relatives | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
and help them claim their rightful inheritance. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
I do it because I enjoy meeting the heirs. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
In our first case today, the heir hunters face a tough challenge, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
identifying even the right family. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
It's an unusually quiet morning at heir hunting company | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Fraser & Fraser. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
There are no cases on the weekly Treasury list worth pursuing today | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
so they are looking into one from a different source | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
and it's a bit of a challenge. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
We're doing research under the surname of Evans, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
so, a particularly hard name to research | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
and an even harder name in Wales so it's going to be a long day | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
I think, for people working on that case. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
How are you feeling, old boyo? | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
Good. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
You'll be used to a Welsh accent to go to do Evans in North Wales. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
Victor Evans was 88 | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
when he died in Bedford on 28th July 2010, without a will. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
He spent the last 11 years of his life in this care home where | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
former manager Guy Tremonto remembers him fondly. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
He was such a pleasant man. He was very caring. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:42 | |
He would always thank you for whatever you did for him. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
Victor enjoyed following his daily routine. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
After his breakfast he would read all the newspapers. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
He would have some financial papers and also the daily newspapers. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
He would take a whole day reading them. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
He was very astute in his finances. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
In fact, he made a lot of money out of the stocks and shares. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Victor's other love was cats and when he moved into the care home | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
he brought his cat William to live with him. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Sometimes he couldn't... | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
He wanted to stay in his room and he couldn't | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
really move out of the room because he was quite poorly. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
He would shout from the bedroom, "William, William." | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
He would shout and shout. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
But we could hear him so we used to get the cat and take it | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
to his bedroom and when he used to see the cat he just used to laugh. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
"Oh, William, oh, William, come here, come here." | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
When he saw the cat he was another person really. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
Before he moved into the care home, Victor lived in this house. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Heir hunters earn their money by charging | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
a percentage of the estate for their services. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
And they confirm that he owned the property so they know it has value. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
The property which Victor owns as a house in Bedford. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
It's perfect commuterville to get into London which helps to increase | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
some of the prices but we're looking at a value of that of | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
about 180 to £200,000 if it's in reasonable condition. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
But what worries the team is that Victor spent 11 years in a care home. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
And he might have left bills that need paying. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
It's a possibility that the property is going to be sucked up | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
and be used to pay for those care home fees but we know he's | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
been in a care home for quite a while and he still | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
owns his property, so he could have had a large amount of savings. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
He could have sold a business or something like that. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
So, we are going to work it. We are going to work it quite hard. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
The team need to try and identify Victor's immediate family | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
as quickly as possible. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
So that they can start to search for heirs. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
They discover that Victor, a bachelor all his life, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
was an only child and did not have children. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
To trace any beneficiaries, the researchers need to go | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
further up the family tree. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
They discover that Victor's father was Thomas Haworth Evans | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
and his mother was Gwendoline Eads. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Looking into the mother's family, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
we've been able to tie this all up. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
Tie it up because the mother's an only child. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
She doesn't have any brothers and sisters, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
therefore, we don't have any uncles and aunts. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
We don't have any cousins descending from them | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
so from our point of view, this side of the family's dead. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
But there's brilliant news on his father's side. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
It looks like Victor has loads of potential heirs. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
We've got a huge amount of research to conduct. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
The researchers get to work looking for Victor's | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
paternal aunts and uncles. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
But with a common name like Evans, it's hard to know where to start. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Evans in Wales is a worst-case scenario really. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
Census-wise we're looking at ten uncles and aunts of the deceased. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:03 | |
So that's ten stems of evidence that we've got to work which is, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
it's going to be very tricky. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
And we, we've got some really quite common names as well. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
William, Robert, Susan. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
They're going to be very, very difficult to work. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I'm trying to find Abraham Evans who'll be the uncle of the deceased. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
I'm just looking at one of the uncles of the deceased, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
George James Evans. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
-I don't think the Sheffield ones are right. -No. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
With a name like Evans, you can never be sure of anything. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
It's such a very, very common name. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
The only Robert Evans | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
is that one in 1916, which would be before the marriage. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Do you see my problem? | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
Evans is such a problematic surname we're going to need certificates on | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
this but we're trying to get as much up to date as we can without them. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
The team will need help from on the road investigator, Paul Matthews. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
While most of the research is done in the office, it's his job to | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
get certificates, find the heirs and sign them up before the competition. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
It's a good name in Wales, Evans, so we could be in for a long day. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Case manager David Milchard, known as Grimble, has sent Paul to | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
Chester Register Office which covers part of the North Wales district. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
I just want to get someone in the registry to get hold of some | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
certificates because we... | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
It's such a common name, it's all guesswork at the moment. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
We're all running down little avenues but whether or not they are | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
right or not we won't know until we get the certs. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
I wouldn't want to put any money on anything I've got at the moment. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Paul's arrived at the Register Office | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
and he checks in with Grimble. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
There you go. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
I'm at the Register Office but I don't know what I'm going to get. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
I haven't got a clue. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
We want certs to prove whether we're going down the right line or not. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
That's all we need to concentrate on at the moment. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
OK, just tell us what you want. I'll try and sort it out later. Yeah. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
But as the whole team work flat out | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
looking for heirs, they get the worst possible news. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
None of that... none of that tree is correct. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
And that's what Dominic's doing. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
The birth certificate ordered earlier for Victor's father, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
Thomas Haworth Evans has come in and it's a bombshell. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
The census we worked was of a Thomas H Evans | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
born at the right time, the right area. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Unfortunately, the parents of the Thomas H Evans they were | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
researching were William and Mary but the birth certificate of | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
Victor's father, Thomas, shows his parents were William and Sarah. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
It now appears that they were two Thomas H Evans | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
born in the same area at the same time. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
One is Thomas Haworth, the other one is probably | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Thomas Henry or something like that, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
but the census we were looking at was the wrong Thomas. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
So the ten aunts and uncles they've been chasing are a dead end. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
-So you've got the wrong family but birth and parents are right? -Mm-hm. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
-Have you got... -No I haven't got anything, just getting to do the tree, haven't got any information. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
It's 10:45 and Grimble calls Paul in Chester to tell him the bad news. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:26 | |
You what? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:27 | |
That's all no good then, no? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Basically all the work for the last few hours has been in vain | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
because obviously we've got the wrong family which is quite | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
easy to do when you've got a nightmare name. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
So now the office have got to revisit it and start backtracking | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
and obviously find the right parents of the deceased. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
So back to the drawing board, I'm afraid. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Coming up - they've lost loads of potential heirs. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Now it's back to square one. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
We did a lot of work on the wrong family. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Let's hope we can do something with the right family. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Will Victor's real father finally lead them to his living relatives? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
and millions of pounds are paid out to rightful heirs. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
But not every case can be cracked. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
The Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates that have | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
baffled the heir hunters and remain unsolved. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
"Bona Vacantia" is the Latin term for ownerless property. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
There's two main types, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
there's the property of now dissolved companies, and the estates | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
of those who die without a valid will, or entitled kin. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
This is money which could have your name on it. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Money raised through Bona Vacantia | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
ultimately goes to the General Exchequer, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
to benefit the country as a whole, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
but it's important to remember the Crown doesn't want | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
to grab all estates it possibly can. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
It's keen for kin to be found and for people to make wills. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
That's the way to stop property becoming Bona Vacantia, make a will. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
So could you be in line for a windfall worth hundreds, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
thousands or even millions of pounds? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
The estates stay on the list for up to 30 years | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
and today we're focusing on three names. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Are they relatives of yours? | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Edward Stephen Connolley died in Leicester in 2002. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
Although the surname Connolley is fairly common, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
this spelling is very unusual. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Does it ring a bell for you? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Could you be related to Edward? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Leonard Smurthwaite died in Percy Main, Tyne and Wear, in March 2005. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:50 | |
The highest concentration of Smurthwaites | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
is in the North East of England. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
If no relatives are found, Leonard's money will go to the Government. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
Do you remember him? Can you help solve this case? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
James Leask died in Westcliff on Sea in November 2000. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
The Scottish name, Leask, is linked to the Orkney and Shetland Isles. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
Do you share the surname Leask? Could James be a relative of yours? | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
The estates on the list could be worth a few hundred pounds | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
or many millions. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
Only successful heirs will be told. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
We never release details of the estate | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
or anything about the deceased | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
until a claim has been admitted, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
and we will only then release it to | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
the person whose claim we have admitted. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
If you think you might be entitled to an estate | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
and want to put in a claim, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
the onus is on you to prove your family connection with the deceased. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
We need to have a simple family tree showing how | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
they think they're related to the deceased person. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Then we can have a look at it, | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
make sure we're talking about the same family, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
before we go off and ask them to supply various certificates | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
of birth, death and marriage, to actually substantiate the claim. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
So do you recognise any of today's names? Here they are again. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
If any of the names today are relatives of yours, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
then you could have a fortune coming your way. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Our next case today is a complicated investigation for the team, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
as their search for heirs spans over 150 years. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Occasionally, heir hunters stumble across a job | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
that is a little out of the ordinary. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
The case of John Crewe wasn't about savings or property | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
but land donated in the 1850s to build a school, Dunalley Street. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
It was spotted by the team | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
and brought to the attention of partner, Charles. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
We first became aware that beneficiaries needed to be traced | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
regarding the Dunalley Street School, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
following a notice that was published in The Times in April 2002. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
The advert appealed to the heirs of Victorian businessman, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
John Crewe, to come forward and claim what was rightfully theirs. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Born in London almost 200 years ago, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
John Crewe became a successful retailer in Cheltenham. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
From the 1840s he ran a chain of grocery shops and bakeries. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Having done very well for himself he decided to give something back. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
In 1858, he donated some land to a charity | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
so they could build a school for the poor. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
In the mid-1800s, there was a great Victorian philanthropic era, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
where the Victorians realised that they needed to educate the masses | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
and that education couldn't be reserved just for the elite. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
And so as a result of that, they introduced | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
the School Sites Act 1841 which allowed people | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
to give land away for the creation of schools, or school houses. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
The school, named after its address, Dunalley Street, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
was opened in 1859 by the British and Foreign Schools Society. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
One of over 100 across England, it was the brainchild of Quaker, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
Joseph Lancaster, and took a radical new approach to teaching the poor. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Lancaster had to develop a system that was cheap. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
He would like the education to be free | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
but they generally had to pay a master's salary. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
But you couldn't afford any assistant masters. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
So Lancaster's system was to introduce boys called monitors. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
He would select the best, the abler, or slightly older boys, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
who he would teach, and those monitors would then teach | 0:17:02 | 0:17:08 | |
groups of eight, nine or ten other boys. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
It was like this school in Hertfordshire, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
that's been preserved as a museum. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Over 200 children at Dunalley Street School were taught in one big hall. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
And costs had to be kept to a minimum. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Paper was expensive. Ink was expensive. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Lancaster had to find ways of doing education cheaply. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
He designed a sand desk. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
It's a tray of sand, in which beginners can | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
practise their letters, rub it out, and practise again. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
They moved on to slate. Slate, again, is very reusable. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
It lasts for a long time. You can write on it and rub it out. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
It's simple economy. Very low-cost school room equipment. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
There would be no books either. Books were very expensive. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
The solution, by Joseph Lancaster, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
was to print one set of lesson sheets. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
They would be hanging on the wall. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
When a monitor took his group of scholars to learn, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
he would take them to the wall, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
take down from the wall a lesson sheet, and teach them from it. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:25 | |
He would then hang it back up and they would then return | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
to their seats to practise what they had learned. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Despite their financial constraints, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
the schools proved both popular and successful. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
At the time there was a need for education. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Businesses, commerces, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
factories were springing up after the industrial revolution. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
They needed children, they needed adults, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
who could read and write and count things, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
and the Lancasterian monitorial system fitted the bill perfectly, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:59 | |
educating large numbers of children fairly quickly. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Dunalley Street remained as a working school until January 1999. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
The following year the land was sold | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
to a property developer for £126,000, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
and the building was turned into flats. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
That's when it became a case for the heir hunters. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
One of the provisions of the 1841 Act | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
was that if the school should close, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
then the land would go back to the original person who gave it away. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
The people now entitled to those proceeds | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
are John Crewe's beneficiaries. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
In a normal heir hunt, there is no will, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
so the closest living family inherit the estate. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
But this case would be based on wills | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
dating back to Victorian times. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Case manager, Simons Grosvenor, got to work. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
The donor, John Crewe, died in 1872. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
So the first step was to get a copy of his will | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and see who he left the residue of his estate to. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
In this case, most of the people concerned were quite well-to-do | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
and, therefore, they left wills and it was just | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
a process of following who they left their estates to, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
particularly true where the people who benefit | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
were not members of the family. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
Because quite a lot of the people concerned in these cases | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
died in the 19th century, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
a lot of the wills we have to look at are hand-written, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
which can make deciphering them quite complicated. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
In his will, John Crewe left everything to his wife, Jane Turner. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
On her death, he stated that his children should inherit | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
his money, and it should go to their children when they died. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
John Crewe had six children, of whom five left descendants | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
and, therefore, it was quite likely we were looking at a large | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
family of potential beneficiaries. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
One of John Crewe's daughters was Grace. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
She was just 37 when she died. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Her inheritance went to her six children, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
including her only daughter, Ada Grace. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Normally, daughters would miss out on an inheritance, because it | 0:21:05 | 0:21:11 | |
would be the sons, and generally the eldest son, who would inherit land. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Because John Crewe left the residue of his estate in a will to | 0:21:15 | 0:21:22 | |
the children of all his children, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
that meant that daughters could inherit instead of sons. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
And in this instance, therefore, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Ada Grace was entitled to a share of the fund. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Simon discovered that, like her grandfather, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Ada Grace was also keen to help those less fortunate than herself. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
In 1914, when the First World War broke out, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
she was a Red Cross volunteer, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
and was elected as commandant of one of their hospitals, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
Leckhampton Court. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
The duties of the commandant would have been many and varied. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
They would have covered everything from the most menial activity | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
to such things as interviewing patients on arrival, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
appointing staff, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
concern with hygiene, and ensuring that discipline was observed, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
consistent with keeping a happy ship. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
Ada Grace's job carried enormous responsibility. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
To have been selected for the post of commandant | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
of this establishment, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
she must have had considerable organisational skills. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
I imagine a sort of Mrs Fix It. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
As wounded soldiers began arriving from the front, the volunteers had | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
to cope with injuries and conditions they had never seen before. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
The injuries and complaints presented to the staff will have been | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
mostly quite novel, beyond their previous experience. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
Such things as gas gangrene, trench foot, gas poisoning, | 0:22:55 | 0:23:02 | |
malaria that had been brought back from the Far East, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
and in the latter days of the war | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
influenza was beginning to present itself. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
A total of 1,700 patients passed through Leckhampton Court. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
And they are incredibly successful, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
in that there were no deaths as the result of wounds. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:26 | |
The success of the hospital did not go unnoticed | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
and Ada Grace was awarded an MBE for her work. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
When the hospital closed at the end of the war, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
she wrote about her experiences. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
A souvenir booklet was produced in 1919 | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
and Ada Grace writes a lovely foreword to it. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
"We are all proud of our soldier boys, of their tenacity, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
"courage, and cheerfulness. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
"And I believe there is just as much honour due to our girls. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
"I can say with grateful pride that I have never seen a black look, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
"never heard a grumble, at any order given. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
"We've done our best not only for the patients but also for each other. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
"The result has been a very happy hospital. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
"Personally, I am more than proud to be commandant of such | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
"a splendid detachment of willing and capable workers. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
"And I trust that the future holds much happiness for everyone | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
"who has worked so untiringly, and with such generous spirit | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
"to make Leckhampton Court Hospital a happy memory." | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
It's an unusual case | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
and I want to understand how schools like Dunalley Street came about. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
So I've come to meet historian Alex Windscheffel, who can tell me | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
more about the laws the Victorians created so the rich could give | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
away their land for schools, and also, what motivated them to do so. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
Why was the School Sites Act created in 1841? | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
The School Sites Act is an act of Parliament which tries to | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
create a legal framework to permit local landowners, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
local benefactors, local groups of citizens, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
to donate areas of land for the purpose of building schools, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:16 | |
usually with the explicit concern of education for the poor of the parish. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
The School Sites Act, or, to give it its full name, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
An Act To Afford Further Facilities | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
For The Conveyance And Endowment Of Sites For Schools, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
allowed wealthy benefactors to | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
give away up to one acre of land to charities to use for schools. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
The Act applied to England, Scotland, and Wales. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Why were wealthy people of the time keen to contribute to | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
the School Sites Act? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
There's two reasons. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
Firstly, often because they are wanting to give something back | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
to their local community. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
At the start of Victoria's reign there's no such thing | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
as a national system of education. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Where education was provided, it tended to be for the very rich | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
or occasionally, for the very poor. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
It also fits into the desire to give a religious and moral education | 0:26:09 | 0:26:16 | |
especially to the children of the poor at a time when Britain was | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
experiencing rapid industrialisation, urbanisation, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
has a growing child population and there are moral concerns | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
and political concerns about the state of the nation. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
-Did charity as a concept grow at that time? -Very much so. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
The Victorian age is the great age of philanthropy, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
the flowering of charity if you like. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
What other forms did this take? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
You also get institutions such as Barnardo's providing for orphans, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:50 | |
in particular, trying to provide a better life | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
as well as a form of moral instruction | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
for these children, removing them from the streets. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
A lot of Victorian charities also directed towards widows, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
people whose circumstances have caused their poverty | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
rather than being in poverty because of their own actions. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
And a lot of Victorian charities also directed towards, for instance, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
fallen women, so it's a way of trying to address moral concerns | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
within the country. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
So what brought about the end of the School Sites Act? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
The School Site Act largely becomes redundant | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
because in 1870, the great reforming Liberal government of the time | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
introduces the 1870 Education Act | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
and this means responsibility has now passed to the local state. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
Schools are now funded out of the rates | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
and there's no longer the need for this patchwork voluntary initiative. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:50 | |
By the 1870s, the modern education system as we know it was born. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
The School Sites Act may have become irrelevant thanks to this | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
later piece of legislation but its legacy lives on. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
A legacy that is proving tricky for the heir hunters. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
Coming up - having traced the family tree through three generations, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
Simon was finding the case a challenge. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
There's quite a lot of legal jargon that we have to make sure | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
we've got correct so that we know we've got the right people. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Would he manage to find any of John Crewe's living heirs | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
to claim the £126,000 that is rightfully theirs? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
Here are some more unsolved cases where heirs still need to be found. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
The Government list of over 2,000 unclaimed estates is money | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
that is owed to members of the public. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
My division isn't allowed to make a profit, we don't make commission, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
we don't get huge bonuses for passing lots of money to the Treasury. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
In fact, the Treasury's more interested in "Are we finding more kin?" Which we are | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
and, "Are we good value for taxpayers' money?" Which we are. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
The Government wants this money to go to its rightful owners | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
so let's try and solve some of these cases. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Do these names mean anything to you? Are they relatives of yours? | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
Ernest David Weiss died in Paddington, London, way back in 1975. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
The Weiss name is of German ancestry and actually means "white". | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
Is there an Ernest Weiss on your family tree? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
Could you be related to him? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
Next, James Bernard Lanigan. James died in January 2007 in East London. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:39 | |
Lanigan is a very well known Irish surname. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
Was James a relative of yours? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
Could you be an heir entitled to a share of his unclaimed estate? | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
Or finally, did you know Herbert Richardson? | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
He died in November 2005. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
The list records his last address as Northwick Park Hospital | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
but we've conducted some more research. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
I've got Herbert's death certificate here. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
It contains more information about him. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
It says that he lived in Wembley. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
Was Herbert a neighbour of yours? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Did he ever talk to you about any family? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
The death certificate also reveals Herbert's date of birth. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
It says he was born on 24th May 1918. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
Was there a Herbert in your family with that date of birth? | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
If you think you are related to any of the names today, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
you could be entitled to their estate. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
If people want further information about Bona Vacantia and what we do, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
the first port of call would be our website which has information | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
about who's an entitled relative, how to put in a claim, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
how we deal with estates, and things like that. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
A reminder of those names again. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Ernest Weiss, James Lanigan and Herbert Richardson. | 0:30:54 | 0:31:00 | |
If any of the names today are relatives of yours | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
then you could have a fortune coming your way. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
The heir hunters are investigating the case of Victor Evans. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
Can the team overcome their earlier setbacks and find living relatives? | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
In the office, they've been working hard on Victor's case. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
He died in Bedford in 2010 without leaving a will. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
Researching an Evans from Wales was never going to be easy. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
With a name like Evans, you can never be sure of anything, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
it's such a very common name. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
The team quickly discovered there were no living heirs | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
from Victor's mother's family. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Then, having found a huge number of possible heirs through his father Thomas Evans, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
his birth certificate revealed the bombshell that | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
they weren't relatives at all. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
'We had the wrong family altogether.' | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
So we'd done a lot of work, all to no avail really. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
So it's back to the drawing board as far as the father's side | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
of the family's concerned. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
Now the team are pinning their hopes on finding the correct Evans family. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
They have a lot of work to do. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Former care home manager Guy Tremonto remembers Victor as a bright man. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
He passed an entrance exam to Bedford Modern School which is | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
a very good school in Bedford. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
He left at 16 or 17 and passed seven O-levels | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
and he'd always mention that. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
Victor was an accounts clerk by profession, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
a skill that was to prove useful in the Second World War. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
He was sent to Sierra Leone in Africa... | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
..and then, I think he was transferred to Egypt as well. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
He was a messenger boy and he fought under Montgomery, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
and he said that he actually gave Montgomery a letter | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
of how the war front was going on in North Africa. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
The heir hunters may have a battle on their hands finding his heirs | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
but Victor had his fair share of drama in his life. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
We know that Victor Evans arrived in the Middle East sometime in 1942 | 0:33:19 | 0:33:25 | |
and that's at about the time that General Montgomery takes over | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
the British force out there, which is called the Eighth Army. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
Field Marshal Montgomery is better known to the world as "Monty," | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
and he was Britain's premier general, really, in the Second World War. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
Victor worked in Monty's tactical headquarters behind the front line. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
We know that he was some sort of messenger or clerk | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
and this is the days before e-mail, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
where you physically had to take a piece of paper from one room to another. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
I think Victor had the luxury of probably having | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
a bigger understanding of what was happening in the war, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
where they were, how much closer they were to beating | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
and defeating the Germans, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
and for someone with an educated background, as he clearly had, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
I think that's quite satisfying. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
It's rewarding to know what your part is in a war and whether it's making | 0:34:17 | 0:34:23 | |
a difference and I think Victor would have been hugely aware | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
of the contribution he was making, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
perhaps more so than a soldier at the front. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
His face clearly fitted and he was clearly very good at his job. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
Montgomery had no time for fools | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
which meant that none of his staff officers would have either. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Anyone saying or doing the wrong thing, getting their paperwork | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
in a mess, being rude, even smoking or drinking - because Montgomery | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
didn't like that - would have been out of the headquarters very quickly. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
The three caravans that Montgomery took on his campaigns have been | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
preserved at the Imperial War Museum at Duxford. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
These are the very vehicles that he would have been working around | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
each and every day. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
In one of them, Montgomery himself slept. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
In another, is his map room and in the third is his office. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
One can picture Victor bringing messages to the field marshal | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
in his office and watching a stream of important visitors | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
come to see Field Marshal Montgomery while the campaign is under progress. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
These include Winston Churchill and even more famously, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
King George VI. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
So, Victor's life in the Second World War is actually gilded in a way | 0:35:35 | 0:35:41 | |
that not many soldiers experienced. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
Victor's wartime experience was a positive one | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
and back on the hunt for his heirs, things are looking up too. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
The team have discovered that his father Thomas had a sister - | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Victor's aunt, Annie. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
She married Pryce Morris in 1916 | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
in the West Derby district of Liverpool. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
If they had children, they would be Victor's cousins | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
and beneficiaries to his estate. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
If they were no longer alive, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
their children would be next in line to inherit. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Now we've got the correct census, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
we've found the deceased father on the 1891, the 1901 | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
and the 1911 census | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
and throughout that period, he's only with one sibling | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
who is Annie Billington Evans | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
and that looks to be his only sister. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
This is a much smaller family than the ten aunts and uncles | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
they believed there were before. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
It's good news but there's a catch. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
You've got nine possible children, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
none of which we know are the right ones or the wrong ones | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
so we're working them all speculatively | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
and hopefully, we'll get through to someone | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
and they can tell us whether they are the right family or the wrong family. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
As the hunters now move to Liverpool, Grimble contacts Paul. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
How would you like Liverpool on a cold, wet day? | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Ah, Paul. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Hello. Who's that? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
'It's Grimble.' | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
I know, go on! | 0:37:06 | 0:37:07 | |
Can you sort of turn your car and go towards Liverpool? | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
Okie. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
We're now going on the correct line. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
It looks like there was an aunt of the deceased | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
who married in Liverpool. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
She died around 1972 and it looks as though she had children | 0:37:23 | 0:37:29 | |
but it's moved over to Liverpool | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
so I thought if we get you heading that way... | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
OK, speak to you soon. Cheers. Bye. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
If the team can confirm that they have the right family members, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
Paul can make contact with them and hopefully, sign them up. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
I'm working a son of Annie. I don't know if he's definitely a son. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
We've gone through all the births after the marriage of Annie in West Derby and everyone's working one. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:56 | |
After the disappointment of losing their first set of heirs by chasing | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
the wrong family, the team have come up with phone numbers for numerous | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
possible relatives but contacting them is proving frustrating. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:10 | |
Can you believe, all those numbers | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
and I can't get through to anyone? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
We've got, what... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
nine potential children of the aunt of the deceased. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
Now, they could all be part of the family | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
but it means Mum was having the last child quite late in life or | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
only a few of them might be right and the others may be part of another family. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
It would just be nice for one of them to answer the phone. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
With no joy on the phone, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
the only way to prove who's who is with birth certificates. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
It's over to Paul on the road. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
'How are you doing?' | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
I'm just arriving in Liverpool. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
'Oh, right. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
-'Can you head to the registry to begin with?' -Yes. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
'I've got half a dozen addresses and nobody's answering the phone. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
'So nobody can confirm whether we're on the right track or not. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
'They said they can do it in a couple of hours. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
'So when you get there, give us another call and I'll tell you what we want.' | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
Whereas I was hoping to go knocking on somebody's door, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
I've got to go to the registry office now, get some certificates | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
which will prove that we've got the right family. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
So, a little bit frustrating | 0:39:32 | 0:39:33 | |
but nothing new there, is there, with this type of work? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
Finally, Grimble gets through to one of Victor's possible heirs. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
Hello, there. I'm sorry to trouble you. My name's David Milchard of Fraser & Fraser in London. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
We're desperately trying to trace a family by the name of Morris | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
in connection with an estate that my company's dealing with. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
Unfortunately, the name Morris is quite common, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
particularly up in the North Wales area. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
I'm not sure if I have the right family or not | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
but we were, in fact, trying to trace the children of a gentleman | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
called Pryce Morris and his wife Ann Billington Evans. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:16 | |
Does that ring a bell with you and your family at all? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
Finding Aunt Annie's possible children from their list | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
of nine names is a process of elimination. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
It certainly looks as though... | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
That's definitely not part of our family because | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
your mum would of had to have been the daughter of a Pryce Morris | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and an Annie Evans | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
so I think we're getting mixed up with the other marriage there. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
Anyway, thank you very much. I'm really grateful to you. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
One down, eight to go. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
PHONE BEEPS | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Hi, Dave, it's 12:25, I'm parked up near the registry office, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:57 | |
just waiting for an update from you. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
So give us a call when you've finished talking on the phone, please. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
She's recognised some of the names of the children | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
born from the marriage that we're looking at, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
so that would indicate about half the births that we've got. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:16 | |
We've got nine kids and five of them are obviously not connected to our family. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:23 | |
Still no actual heirs yet. Grimble works his way down the list. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
It really looks as though your husband's part of the family isn't correct. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
But you've helped us a lot and we've ruled out a lot of information, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
otherwise we'd be going completely down the wrong path. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
It's not looking good. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
After finding numbers for the aunt's nine possible children, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
the heir hunters have one last possible hope. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
We've got one guy called Eric Morris that nobody that I spoke to recognises, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
so if we've ruled out the family we've spoken to as not being ours, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:04 | |
and they don't recognise Eric then Eric is a good chance | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
of being perhaps the only child of the aunt of the deceased. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:13 | |
Now, he died in 1997 but he is survived by a daughter. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
She could be the only heir to Victor's estimated £200,000 estate | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
and the frustrating thing is, she isn't answering the phone. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Hello, Paul? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
Any joy? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
We've got a possible address but she ain't answering the phone yet. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
OK, tell us what you want while I'm in a position to write it down. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
The first thing I want you to do is to check | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
the birth of an Eric Lynn Morris... | 0:42:40 | 0:42:46 | |
Yes. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
..who was born on the 12th October 1916 in West Derby. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
If I'm to be correct... | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
he's got to be the son of Pryce Morris... | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:01 | |
..and Annie Billington Evans. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
OK. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:07 | |
Before we go knocking on the daughter's door, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
while you're there, best check his birth, make sure it is right. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
After a false start, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
this entire case now hangs on what Paul can find out. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
He's going to check the birth of Eric | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
and then we're going to check, if possible, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
all the other eight births that we looked at, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
just to make sure that none of them are also in our family. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
So... | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
we should know in a little while. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
Can he prove that Victor has a last remaining heir? | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
Hello, Dave. Paul. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Er, all those Morris births are all wrong. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
It's a disaster for the team. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
After an exhausting day, | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
having chased up countless potential heirs, they've ended up with none. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
Aunt Annie had no children, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
so when Victor died, his family tree died with him. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
It's finished off a huge disappointment. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
A lot of man-hours and we've ended up proving that it's a dead case. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
As no heirs were found in this case, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
the true value of Victor's estate will never be known. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
This is a case that is going to go back to the Government now. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
And just not a dickey bird for us. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
Still to come - | 0:44:42 | 0:44:43 | |
the intriguing story of a Victorian school that was put up for sale. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
But, as we know, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:48 | |
things are never straightforward in the world of probate research. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
Unusually for an heir hunt, the heirs to Dunalley Street | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
inherit through a series of wills written by each generation, | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
rather than through blood ties. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
'So how did wills come about? And how did they change over time? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:07 | |
'I'm meeting genealogist Paul Blake, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
'who's going to take me through their history | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
'and show me some interesting examples of wills.' | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
When did wills become established in England? | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
Well, in England, what we traditionally think of as being a will, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
probably not till the 12th and 13th century. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
But there was, before that, really quite a long tradition | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
of people making their wishes known, probably in front of witnesses | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
and those wishes being put into action. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
But, on the whole, it wasn't until the late Norman period, the Middle Ages, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:38 | |
that you actually start getting this tradition of making a formal will. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:44 | |
It was during the Middle Ages that the Church actively prompted | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
and even stipulated that people left a written will. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
This wasn't a completely selfless act for the good of the common man. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:57 | |
There was an expectation by the Church | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
that you would leave a tenth of your estate to them. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
Of course, if you died without leaving a will, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
that wouldn't happen. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:06 | |
So no wonder they were keen! | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
But the Church's powers went to last for ever in the world of probate. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
So what was the 1857 Act and what impact did that have on wills? | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
It was a major change. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:21 | |
I mean, before 1858, which was when the Act actually came into force, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
everything to do with probate, everything to do with death, | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
to some extent, was handled by the Church. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
So if you had a will, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
then your executors would have had to take that will to the church courts | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
and they would then have processed the will, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
made sure that the bequests in it | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
were doled out to whoever was actually mentioned. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
And it was a very complicated process. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
By the time you get to the 19th century, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
Government's been getting a bit fed up with the Church having so much power | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
and therefore it brings in this law, the Probate Act in 1857, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:56 | |
to change everything to do with probate | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
from being a Church jurisdiction to being a civil jurisdiction. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
So those 300 courts, probate courts, are abolished | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
and you simply have the one single principle probate registry, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
which is based in London, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:11 | |
and a number of district registries around the country. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
So the whole process is simplified. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
So what interesting examples of wills | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
have you brought along for us to look at today? | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
Well, we've got a couple here. Let's see here. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
The first one is Shakespeare, William Shakespeare's will. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
Yeah, the handwriting's not that easy, is it? | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
But probably the best-known will in the English language. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
He's got within it probably one of the best-known phrases in any will. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
"I leave to my wife my second-best bed." | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
-Which sounds an enormous slight on his wife, doesn't it? -Yeah! | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
But I think the truth of it is really that this was her own bed, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:47 | |
it was the bed which they used. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
Because the best bed, like the best crockery and all that, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
is only brought out on special occasions | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
when important visitors come or the in-laws come or whatever it might be. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
-So he's left his wife her bed. -He's left his wife her bed, yes. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
She's not mentioned very much in the will, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
which again people often think is because they weren't getting on terribly well. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
But she's mentioned enough so she will inherit what is necessary. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
What else have we got? We've got another will, a little bit later. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
And this is the will of Isaac Merritt Singer. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
Now, Singer was a man who formed the Singer Sewing Machine Company. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
Right. Yeah. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:24 | |
He didn't actually invent the sewing machine, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
but he improved it beyond anything that had been seen before. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
And he was a man who, shall we say, um... | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
I'll say "roamed." | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
He...married twice. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
He had a marriage at the beginning of his career | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
and at the end of his career. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
But he also probably had a bigamous marriage. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
And he certainly had two other liaisons. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
All of which gave him children. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
-Right. -22 children in all. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
-22?! -22 children. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
Only about half of them from marriages. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
But he mentions all 22 children in there. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
And his wives and it's fairly unusual, I think, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
that someone who had illegitimate children | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
is actually so open about it and actually gives so much information. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
They got £10,000 each and I think, at the end of the day, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
he left something in the region of about a quarter of a million pounds, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
which for the time was an enormous amount of money. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
The last one is just an extract from a will. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
This is the will of somebody called Charles Smith. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
He is nobody well-known, but I'll read out what it actually says. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
"Item - I give, devise and bequeath unto my respectful friend, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
"Elizabeth Morgan, all my household furniture, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
"ready cash and all other my estate and effects for her own sole use. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:42 | |
"Item, I give and bequeath unto Francis Smith, my wife, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
"the sum of one shilling, of lawful money of Great Britain." | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
Ha! | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
-Wow! -He left it all to his mistress, yes. Well, his best friend. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:56 | |
-His best friend. -His best friend. Absolutely. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
It is interesting, entertaining. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
But there's a reason for it. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
He HAD to mention his wife. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:04 | |
He HAD to leave her something. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
You often get the phrase, "Cut off with a sixpence," | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
or, "Cut off with a shilling," and the reason is because now... | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
..Mrs Smith can't turn around and actually contest the will. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
Because she is mentioned, she has been given something | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
and therefore she has no case for any argument. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
That's why you do often get people mentioned as being given very, very little. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
It's just so they can't turn around and say, "Oh, they forgot me." | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
-Wow. -And then contest the well. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
So, there we are, three examples of the sorts of things you can find. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
Wills can give fascinating insight into the lives of both | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
the famous and the ordinary people of our history. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
They're also invaluable to the heir hunters, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
as the information contained in them | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
can provide vital clues about a specific family and its dynamics. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:53 | |
Just remember to do yours. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
A series of wills are being used in the hunt | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
for beneficiaries to an estate in Cheltenham. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
Can the team find people entitled to inherit? | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
In 2002, the Heir Hunters were looking into the case | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
of 19th-century entrepreneur John Crewe. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
In 1858, he had donated his land to a charity | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
to build a pioneering school for the poor - Dunalley Street. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
In 2000, the trustees sold the land | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
to a firm of property developers for £126,000. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:37 | |
But, by law, when the land is no longer used for a school, | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
the original owner, or his descendants, must be reimbursed. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
Case manager Simon's challenge was to find John's living beneficiaries. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:49 | |
Through their wills, he had traced one stem of the family tree, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
from John Crewe to his daughter, Grace, | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
and to her daughter, Ada Grace Ward. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
He found that when she died in 1951, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
she left everything to her only child, Kenneth. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
We identified a death for Kenneth Ward in 1964, in Cheltenham. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:17 | |
And, in his will, he left his estate to his wife, Patricia. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
Patricia, when she died, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
left a portion of her estate to her daughter, Angela. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
Angela was the great, great-granddaughter of John Crewe, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
and his first heir. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
But, following a major car crash 17 years earlier, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
Angela had been left paralysed with severe head injuries. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
When Simon contacted her, she asked her husband, Brian, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
to act on her behalf. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
Her condition was very difficult. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
Er... | 0:52:47 | 0:52:48 | |
She had a full vocabulary and could understand everything, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:53 | |
but had no idea of figures at all. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
Couldn't count and couldn't read. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
When we took the phone call, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
Angela thought that someone was having a joke | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
and didn't believe that there was even a firm called Fraser & Fraser. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
But, on looking at some paperwork, we realised it was quite serious. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:15 | |
Angela knew very little about her family background. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
It was, um...quite an old family, in relation to herself. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:25 | |
Her father was quite old when he married | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
and her mother didn't say anything at all | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
about that side of the family. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
So, again, we were completely surprised to hear anything. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
Angela signed an agreement as heir to John Crewe's estate. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
But, sadly, she passed away soon afterwards. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
As beneficiaries in her will, Angela's son and her husband, Brian, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
have inherited her share. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
He's keen to learn all he can about her Victorian ancestor | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
and the land he donated for the Dunalley Street School. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
I didn't know anything of John Crewe, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
except that his name has been mentioned as a distant ancestor... | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
of my late wife. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
Having spoken, in years gone by, to various very elderly people, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:16 | |
some of which had been ex-employees of the family's, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
they had hinted that the land that John Crewe had donated for the building of the school | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
had possibly been used as market gardens. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
Brian is meeting Cheltenham historian Dr Anthea Jones at a market garden. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:36 | |
This is what John Crewe's land may have looked like | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
before he gave it away. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
The land that John Crewe donated had been used, at some time, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
for some commercial growing. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:46 | |
Yes, I think that's quite likely. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
Nobody seems to be exactly sure as to how large the growing area was | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
or what he was doing with it. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
Well, I think the early maps of Cheltenham will show you that... | 0:54:57 | 0:55:02 | |
that area was completely fields and open until 1806, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:07 | |
when there was an Enclosure Act. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
And, after that, it began to be developed | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
but the point about enclosure is that various people who had rights | 0:55:11 | 0:55:16 | |
in the field were given small plots of land. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:21 | |
All they could really do with that land was either develop it | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
for building, which gradually did happen in that area, as we know, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
or they could use it as a market garden. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
By the age of 45, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
John Crewe had made enough money to give his land away to charity. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
And Brian's keen to find out more about his business. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
When John Crewe came to Cheltenham, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
the population was something like 30,000. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
It had grown enormously in the early 19th century - | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
from 3,000 at the beginning of the century, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
it actually zoomed to 30,000 by 1841. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:58 | |
So there were new houses, there were more people coming in. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
There was a good opportunity for him to open a shop. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
He started off in Winchcomb Street as a grocer and tea dealer. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:15 | |
And that was quite common, for grocers to be tea dealers as well. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
And then, gradually, he becomes a baker and grocer. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
-He diversified into being a baker as well? -It seems so, yes | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
because he only advertises himself as a grocer to start with | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
and then he adds the baker bit. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Maybe he found that he wasn't making money out of tea, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
so he looked for something else to add to his profitability. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
But despite his success, John Crewe wasn't driven by profit alone. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:48 | |
And Brian wants to see for himself the school he helped create. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:53 | |
It is quite strange to think that, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
after all of the children that have been educated in it, | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
it's now luxury homes for half a dozen families. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
It's quite surprising, really, when you see how well it was built in those days... | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
..compared to modern schools. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
It will still be here in 100 years' time, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
whereas, many will have dropped into rubble. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
By inheriting his wife's share of John Crewe's £126,000 estate, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:24 | |
Brian has also become part of Cheltenham's history. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
My impression of John Crewe is that he was one of these people | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
that did everything he could to help the poorer areas of the town | 0:57:31 | 0:57:37 | |
and his work has stood the test of time. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
Angela would've been extremely pleased to have seen all this | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
and I think she would have been proud of him. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
After an epic search, the heir hunters found over 20 beneficiaries. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:51 | |
They were all entitled to a share of the money, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
from hundreds to thousands of pounds. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
It's thanks to the great Victorian philanthropic era | 0:57:57 | 0:58:01 | |
that our beneficiaries today are benefiting from land | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
that was given away over 150 years ago. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
Join me next time for some more fascinating family stories | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
and investigations into our past. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
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