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Heir hunters specialise in tracking down people

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who are entitled to money from someone who's died.

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It was difficult to find you, actually.

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Sometimes the deceased has become estranged from their family.

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Sometimes they simply haven't left a will.

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Either way, the heir hunters must make sure

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that any unclaimed money goes to the right people.

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When the heir hunters contacted us, it was amazing.

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Their work involves painstaking investigation.

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So these kids could all be right, all be wrong or half and half.

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But it can bring families back together.

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That's lovely!

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Most of all, though,

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the work is about giving people news of an unexpected windfall.

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Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door?

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Coming up on today's programme -

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the death of an Essex man

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leads the heir hunters to a colossal family tree.

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What's happening is we've got a large top line

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and then each of those top line

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are having massive families themselves.

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And an emotional family meeting.

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-Hello, Nell!

-Hello, darling!

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Long time no see.

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Plus how you could be entitled to inherit

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unclaimed estates held by the Treasury.

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Could thousands of pounds be heading your way?

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London.

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And at the country's biggest firm of heir hunters, Fraser & Fraser,

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boss Neil has picked up a new case.

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Ralph Leonard Kenneth Hammond died in Rayleigh in Essex

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just before Christmas last year.

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So a pretty fresh case.

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Heir hunters' work can come from a variety of sources.

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Each week, the Treasury Solicitor

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publishes a list of unclaimed estates.

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Cases are sometimes referred by solicitors or concerned neighbours.

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Today, the heir hunters are acting on a tip-off

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that Ralph died without leaving a will.

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If they can't find beneficiaries,

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his estate will go to the government.

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And it's thought to be of substantial value.

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He owns a property,

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so we're probably looking at a case with a value of about £160,000.

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On a case like this,

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the heir hunters will take a percentage of the estate

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in return for their work.

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But they'll only get paid if they find Ralph's heirs.

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Born in 1922, Ralph Hammond was 89 years old

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when he died at his home in Rayleigh in Essex.

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Friend and neighbour Stuart Thomson used to keep an eye on Ralph

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and do odd jobs for him.

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He was always jolly. He was always pleased to see somebody.

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We knew he liked his football. He liked Arsenal.

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And he loved his cricket.

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He always used to talk about his cricket.

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He used to go to Chelmsford.

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As far as we all knew, there was no relations.

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He never mentioned family.

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The only person he did mention a couple of times was his mother.

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A very private and personal man, he was.

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Sadly, Ralph lost his sight towards the end of his life.

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But it didn't stop him keeping up with what was going on in the world.

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He was a funny guy. He had these different radios.

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All tuned into different radio stations.

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So when he wanted to listen to something, he had one radio on.

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If he wanted to listen to something else, he'd put the other one on.

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If he wanted to listen to something else, he'd put the other one on.

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Sometimes you'd go in there and you've got three radios going.

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Although for his impairments, he looked after himself.

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And he didn't want to intrude on people's help.

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When I found out he'd passed away,

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it was a sad thing for me, I must admit.

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Because he was such a lovely man.

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What can I say? He was such a lovely man.

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In the office, the investigation to find beneficiaries

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to Ralph's estate is in full swing.

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Call him after 12:00 and make an appointment

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because apparently, he's out until then.

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The team are working on a tip-off,

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but it won't be long before this case

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is advertised by the Treasury Solicitor.

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And that will mean rival heir hunting firms could pick it up.

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So they have to work fast.

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So these kids could all be right, all be wrong or half and half.

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The first thing they've been able to establish

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is that Ralph was a bachelor and had no children.

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This means the heir hunters must now look to the wider family tree.

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Thomas and Alice.

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-Thomas...

-Thomas Frederick.

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They will look to see if either of Ralph's parents

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had brothers and sisters.

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If any of these aunts or uncles had children,

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then they would be heirs to Ralph's estate.

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Right name, right place. Who knows?

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But it's easier said than done.

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As case manager Jo Ibrahim gets to grips with the investigation,

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it soon begins to dawn on her

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that Ralph's father was part of a huge family.

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This case is quite big.

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We've got ten uncles and aunts of the deceased

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just on the paternal side.

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And they all seem to have quite a lot of children,

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so it's quite a big family.

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Jo has only recently become a case manager.

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With the discovery that Ralph's father was part of a massive family,

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it's becoming clear that this is not going to be

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an easy one to cut her teeth on.

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I believe he went and saw you earlier today.

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She can't fall at the first hurdle.

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And on this job, there are lots of them.

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It's what they call a massive one!

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She decides the only way to deal with so many stems of the family

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is to divide and conquer.

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And she drafts in more and more researchers to help with the work.

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Do you want to take this one, Ben? That one? Yeah.

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At the moment, we're just looking at the family,

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making sure that someone is working on each part of the family

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to try and see if we can get more people up to date.

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But because it's so big, we're having to give out stems to each person.

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Cheers. Thanks. 'Bye.

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Ralph Hammond's father had 11 brothers and sisters.

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Six of whom went on to have big families.

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Which means that Ralph had dozens of first cousins.

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If any of these cousins are alive, they would be heirs.

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If they, too, have passed away,

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then their children would be in line to inherit.

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It's a dauntingly large family,

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but a challenge that some of the team relish.

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It's an enormous tree.

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And what's happening is we've got a large top line

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and then each of those top line

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are having massive families themselves.

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We're having, you know, if there's eight or ten on the top line,

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each child from that top line is having seven or eight children themselves.

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And it's just like a fountain coming down.

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It's going to be enormous.

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The sheer size of the job means that Jo really has her work cut out.

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As head of this investigation,

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the onus is on her to make sure it runs smoothly

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and gets solved fast.

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Everyone in the office, even senior staff like case manager Dave Slee,

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is working to her lead.

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I feel sorry for Jo.

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It's a hell of a big family tree to cut her teeth on.

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So...she's doing well.

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But Jo has more help just ready and waiting.

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The company has a team of travelling heir hunters

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who are out on the road and ready to go wherever they're needed.

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It's their job to collect certificates,

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make enquiries and sign up heirs.

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I think we've got our work cut out with this one.

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Out on the road today are Bob Smith,

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Dave Hadley and Bob Barratt.

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All in the Essex area, waiting to be dispatched.

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Bob Smith is about to get further instructions from Dave Slee,

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who has been working on the stem of one of Ralph' uncles,

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George Hammond.

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I've got an address for you.

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OK. Which stem's it on?

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If you go top line, George Arthur Hammond.

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I don't know what your tree shows. Does it come down to Dorothy Elizabeth Hammond?

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Yeah. She marries Alfred.

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OK. We've got her being born 1900, Romford.

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1901, yeah.

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-Go to Hornchurch and then phone us and we'll let you know.

-OK.

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-Thank you, Bob. Speak to you later.

-Yeah. 'Bye.

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The heir hunters think they may have located a cousin

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who would be an heir to Ralph's estimated £160,000 estate.

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So Bob is hitting the road.

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In the office, the whole team is still working on the Hammond case.

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It's a risky strategy.

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If it doesn't get solved,

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or another firm of heir hunters gets in first,

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the company will have wasted money and manpower.

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Technically, we have three family trees working in the office.

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Jo's got the original one we've been working with,

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Tony's gone upstairs to update the current working tree

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and we're working on a copy at the moment

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which is actually in two bits.

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Jo has got a not-easy task at the moment.

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She's controlling probably about five or six managers.

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Me, a partner, and 20 researchers, as well.

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I think they've got four people out on the road working, as well.

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So not an easy task for Jo.

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She's not been in this game a huge amount of time and certainly,

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this is probably the biggest job she's had to run.

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I quite like the big families because

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in some cases, the research can be quite quick now.

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And there's no fun in that.

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Essentially, that's what we are, we're researchers.

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It's nice to be able to do research and do it throughout the day.

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We look at a stem, we move on.

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We look at another stem, we move on again.

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The advantage is we've got numbers,

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so we can look at a large job all in one go.

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It is just the sort of work they relish.

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It seems like most of the office is tackling branches

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of the Hammond family tree.

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Currently, we're having a look at Alice and Ruth Richardson.

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Um...found a marriage so far for Alice,

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but can't find anything else for her since.

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She had two children, by the looks of it.

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One of them died infant

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and the other one seems to have disappeared.

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At the moment, it looks like the right people,

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but obviously, without certificates, we won't know for definite.

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And it's quite an early stage.

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Because the family are quite a large family,

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it can easily be the right people in the wrong sort of place.

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So hopefully, by speaking to the family, we might know a bit more.

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In Essex, travelling researcher Bob Smith

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has arrived at the home of Edward Vinton.

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Mr Vinton's mother was Ralph Hammond's first cousin,

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so he may be entitled to a share of the estate.

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It's now down to Bob to check that he is indeed a family member

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and if the office's research is correct.

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If it is, then Mr Vinton is an heir to Ralph's estate.

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Was your mum married more than once?

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No. Just that once.

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Just the once.

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And your brothers and sisters, can you name them?

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Who's the eldest?

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My sister.

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What was her name?

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-Gwendoline Doris.

-Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Do you know when she was born?

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Um...

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Well, she's between nine and ten years older than me.

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OK, so about 1922, 23?

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Yeah. Yes.

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It's good news for the team.

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Bob confirms that Mr Vinton is Ralph's first cousin once removed

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and therefore, an heir to his estate.

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On a case like this, the heir hunters

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will help a relative claim their share for a percentage fee.

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And Bob leaves a contract for Mr Vinton to sign.

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It's been a worthwhile visit.

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Although he was very helpful in terms of giving us information

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about his own particular branch of the family,

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he didn't remember the deceased.

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But still very useful. Lovely chap.

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And it will enable us to contact other family members

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so we can sort of move them forward quickly.

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And the search for heirs is really gathering pace now.

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In a different part of Essex, travelling researcher Dave Hadley

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has been dispatched to see another potential heir.

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The team believe Alex Grover

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is another first cousin once removed to Ralph

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and so entitled to a share of the estate.

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-Mr Grover?

-Speaking.

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Dave Hadley. Pleased to meet you. There's my card.

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But Dave needs to make sure their research is correct.

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Can you call out your brothers and sisters for me?

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Call out their names.

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-The eldest, Frederick.

-Frederick.

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-Mm-hm.

-Did he have a middle name at all?

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-Don't look at me, he's your brother.

-I know he is, yeah.

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In the office, the team have been hard at it for several hours.

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And they're beginning to get

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the enormous paternal family tree under control.

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We're now getting to the point where

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we're looking at the holes in, um...in the tree.

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So we're starting to concentrate on little bits where there's no address.

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So...I think...

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we've got something on every stem, as far as I'm aware.

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So we're really just trying to finish off the bits.

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But that's only 50 percent of the job.

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Case managers Tony Pledger and Ben Cornish

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begin to work on Ralph's mother's family.

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Right, OK. The maternal is...

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you've got the mother of the deceased is Eveline Hilda Letton.

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Eveline Letton had almost as many brothers and sisters as her husband.

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Nine in total.

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But only five of these siblings lived to be adults.

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Any children they had would be cousins to Ralph

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and so heirs to his estate.

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And Tony quickly uncovers that one of Ralph's aunts

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had an interesting working life.

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We think that we've found her as a servant

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on the electoral roll in London

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in the 1930s.

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She's living in the same house as,

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this is why we think she's the servant of

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Esmee Tondiman

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the Ranee of Pudukota.

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It looks like the heir hunters have uncovered

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a real-life upstairs downstairs story.

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It would not have been acceptable for servants

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to have a child out of wedlock,

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nor would it have been acceptable for most servants

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to marry and remain in service.

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At the beginning of their search,

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heir hunters often have very little information to go on.

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But the process of tracing heirs

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can sometimes reveal some intriguing family history.

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It's something a bit unusual and interesting.

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Based in Liverpool, Saul Marks of Celtic Research

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specialises in estates that have sat unclaimed for several years.

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The toughest to crack.

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And this next case was no exception.

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Arthur Thorne died in 2003

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in Raynes Park, London, aged 92.

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He never married, nor had children

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and it appeared he had no family.

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But he was a dedicated member of his local church.

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Sarah Colley was part of the same congregation.

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I think I would have been about six or seven when I first Arthur

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because that was when I started to come to church

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with my grandparents and my parents.

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He was a sidesman here.

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Took it in turns with my grandfather and two other people.

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Arthur's role would be to hand out the books to the congregation

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as they arrived, and then collect the collection

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and take it up to the altar to be blessed at the end of the service.

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I remember him sitting in his own special pew,

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collecting the money, and being introduced to him

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and saying hello at each service.

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Arthur was very polite, I remember that.

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Shook hands, always said good morning, always had a nice smile.

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It's very sad that people can lose touch completely with their family,

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so maybe Arthur found fulfilment here.

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Arthur died without leaving a will,

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which meant that his estate was published on

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the Treasury Solicitors' Bona Vacantia list.

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If a living heir could not be traced, then the money would

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go to the government rather than Arthur's family.

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Heir hunter Saul was keen to stop this from happening.

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We picked this case from the Treasury Solicitor's list of unclaimed estates

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in the summer of 2011, and the reason we picked this one in particular

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was it looked like the value would make it

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worth our while researching.

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Arthur's estate was estimated to be worth around £18,000.

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If Saul could find and sign up heirs,

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he'd get a pre-agreed percentage of the estate,

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but the Bona Vacantia list gives heir hunters

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very little information to work with.

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We started with the deceased's name, date of death and place of death.

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That tends to be all we have to start with on any of our cases.

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One of the first things I did was to find the deceased's date of birth,

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which I was able to do because he died in 2003,

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and the 2003 death indexes allow us the date of birth.

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We established fairly early on in this case that the deceased

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was born in the first few months of 1911,

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which made it very easy for us

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to just look him up on the 1911 Census.

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And it was this crucial document that unlocked the case for Saul,

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explaining why it had sat unclaimed on the list for several years.

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The 1911 Census was only published in 2009,

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so there was a six-year period

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when this case really was pretty much impossible.

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But once the census was published,

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Saul was able to find Arthur living at an address in London,

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a home he shared with his parents and five brothers.

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Arthur was one of six sons born to Edward Thorne and Ellen Forbes.

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His eldest brother Thomas died in 1933,

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but the rest of his brothers,

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Harry, Edward, Frederick and William, all married.

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Any of their children would be heirs to Arthur's estate.

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The deceased's eldest brother Thomas seemed to die quite young,

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in his 20s, so once we'd established that he'd not got married earlier

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and had children, which he hadn't,

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we could rule his line out completely.

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Of the surviving four brothers, we found marriages for all of them,

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and we actually found deaths for all of them,

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and they'd all had families of their own

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from each of their marriages, so we knew that this case

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was going to be all about finding nieces and nephews of the deceased.

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As Saul researched each of Arthur's brothers,

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he found it unusually easy to trace beneficiaries

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using death indexes and the Census.

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Normally, we use a lot of birth, marriage and death certificates

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in our work to try and track people down.

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In this particular case, we didn't actually need to use any.

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What we did was we used the indexes and the census

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to be able to solve the case,

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and then we could just speak to the heirs

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and they led us to the other heirs, and the case was solved.

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But there was one detail that cast his research into doubt.

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One of the odd things I came across in this case was that

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the deceased's brother Frederick had married in London

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and had some children in London,

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and then there seemed to be other children born

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to the same name combination of parents, but in Weston-super-Mare,

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and that's quite unusual,

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because obviously two different sides of the country.

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Could this be another couple with the same name?

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Or had Frederick and his wife Lily

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moved their family 150 miles west from their native London?

0:19:180:19:22

When Saul traced one of the couple's youngest children,

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Christina Morrison, he found the answer.

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When the heir hunters contacted us, it was amazing.

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It was just unbelievable to think that we had an uncle

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who was still alive in 2003, and quite sad too.

0:19:370:19:41

Dad joined the army when he was quite young,

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and during the war, when the Blitz was on in London,

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Mum and the three oldest children

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were evacuated out to Weston-super-Mare,

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where the rest of us were all born.

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During the build-up to World War II,

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the fear of attack from German bombers prompted the government

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to evacuate Britain's towns and cities.

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Nearly 3,000,000 people, most of them children,

0:20:070:20:11

were uprooted from their homes

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and sent to the relative safety of the countryside.

0:20:130:20:16

The government were very keen

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that we could get rid of as many useless mouths, as they were called,

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from the likely areas that would be bombed, to get them to safety.

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Evacuation was never compulsory.

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The government quite rightly saw that that would be a morale disaster,

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to force people to go, and so they had to put in a lot of effort

0:20:360:20:39

to convince people to send their children away

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or to go away themselves,

0:20:420:20:43

and this went on from about 1937 onwards,

0:20:430:20:47

they were beginning to put these kind of ideas,

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propaganda involved, getting people to think

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that it would be a good idea

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to move their children from danger itself.

0:20:550:20:58

Terrified by the prospect of a German bombing campaign,

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thousands of families fled to safer rural and coastal areas.

0:21:020:21:06

Many, like the Thornes, never returned home,

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and lost contact with their extended families.

0:21:090:21:13

I'm sure it was horrendous for them

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when they left all their family behind.

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It must have been very, very difficult.

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Very lonely, and Mum was from a big family herself,

0:21:200:21:24

and she left them all behind,

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but she was more frightened that the children would be killed.

0:21:260:21:28

Obviously, evacuation was hugely emotional.

0:21:280:21:31

For many families, it was the first time they've ever been split up.

0:21:310:21:34

Families on the whole moved a lot less.

0:21:340:21:37

Many families never went on holiday, for instance.

0:21:370:21:39

You were day-to-day in contact with your siblings

0:21:390:21:43

and your children and your parents all your life.

0:21:430:21:47

It became clear to Saul that he was dealing with a family

0:21:470:21:50

who had become fragmented by the war.

0:21:500:21:53

His job now was to piece all the Thorne brothers

0:21:530:21:56

and their families back together,

0:21:560:21:58

and in turn, reunite them with their uncle Arthur's £18,000 estate.

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We assumed that, as our dad died so young,

0:22:030:22:08

the other brothers had virtually followed suit,

0:22:080:22:10

because we didn't keep in touch with any of the family.

0:22:100:22:12

But all that might be about to change.

0:22:160:22:19

As a result of Saul's search for heirs,

0:22:190:22:21

Arthur Thorne's remaining family members

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have been put in touch with each other.

0:22:240:22:26

I can't tell you how excited we all are

0:22:260:22:29

to know that there's more family around,

0:22:290:22:31

and we're looking forward so much to seeing them.

0:22:310:22:34

It'll be the first time that some of Arthur's family,

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separated by war, have ever met.

0:22:370:22:40

-It's lovely to meet you.

-You're a complete stranger!

0:22:400:22:43

I can't take my eyes off... I can't take my eyes off of you.

0:22:430:22:47

Heir hunters use their specialist skills to track down

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thousands of rightful beneficiaries every year,

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but not every case can be cracked.

0:23:010:23:03

There are around 2,000 names

0:23:030:23:06

on the Bona Vacantia list of unclaimed estates

0:23:060:23:09

that have eluded the heir hunters and remain unsolved.

0:23:090:23:12

Cases will stay on the unclaimed list for a period of 12 years

0:23:140:23:17

from the date that the administration has been completed,

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and that's a period of time that people still can come forward

0:23:210:23:25

and claim the estate.

0:23:250:23:27

Today we're focusing on two cases that stumped the heir hunters.

0:23:280:23:32

Could you be the heir they've been looking for?

0:23:320:23:34

Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall?

0:23:340:23:37

First is the case of Gordon Stead.

0:23:390:23:41

He died in Shipley in West Yorkshire

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on 9th April, 2011 at the age of 84.

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Gordon was born in Bradford,

0:23:480:23:50

and his parents were William Stead and Alice Patchett.

0:23:500:23:54

The heir hunters believe he may have been married twice,

0:23:540:23:57

but so far, they've only found records of one marriage,

0:23:570:24:00

to a Barbara Slater in 1953.

0:24:000:24:03

Do you have any more information about Gordon?

0:24:030:24:06

Could you be one of his relatives?

0:24:060:24:09

Next is the case of Tex Orrico,

0:24:090:24:11

a jazz musician who died in Marylebone in London

0:24:110:24:14

on 28th September, 2009.

0:24:140:24:17

Heir hunters believe the name Orrico may come from Nigeria,

0:24:170:24:21

and could be a variation of Oriaku or Oriaky,

0:24:210:24:25

but unless someone knows where Tex was born,

0:24:250:24:28

it could be difficult to trace his relatives.

0:24:280:24:31

Could you be related to Tex, or do you know

0:24:310:24:33

anything about his family history that could help crack the case?

0:24:330:24:37

Both Tex Orrico and Gordon Stead's estates remain unclaimed,

0:24:370:24:42

and if no one comes forward,

0:24:420:24:44

their money will go to the government.

0:24:440:24:46

If it belongs to someone else, we simply don't want it,

0:24:460:24:49

so we're very pleased when people come forward.

0:24:490:24:52

So do you have any clues

0:24:520:24:53

that could help solve the cases of Tex Orrico or Gordon Stead?

0:24:530:24:57

If so, you could have an inheritance coming your way.

0:24:570:25:01

In London, the team at heir hunting firm Fraser and Fraser

0:25:050:25:09

are working on the case of Ralph Hammond,

0:25:090:25:12

and they're already dealing with a mammoth family tree.

0:25:120:25:15

So you can try and sort all that out, start from the beginning.

0:25:150:25:18

Let Jacko do that.

0:25:180:25:19

Case manager Jo Ibrahim is running the research,

0:25:190:25:22

and the entire office is working flat out to try and find heirs.

0:25:220:25:26

Michael, do you want to sort this lot out?

0:25:260:25:30

What's going on here?

0:25:300:25:32

Ralph Hammond passed away in December 2011

0:25:320:25:36

in Rayleigh in Essex.

0:25:360:25:38

He was 89 years old.

0:25:380:25:40

He spent the last few years of his life living alone,

0:25:400:25:43

but he had plenty of company from friends and neighbours,

0:25:430:25:47

like Stuart Thompson.

0:25:470:25:48

He was very, very jolly, but very private.

0:25:480:25:52

He was always pleased to see somebody,

0:25:520:25:55

somebody he could trust, basically.

0:25:550:25:58

Although he lost his sight towards the end of his life,

0:25:580:26:01

he still managed to keep active.

0:26:010:26:03

Not much is known about Ralph's background,

0:26:050:26:08

but it's thought he served in the RAF

0:26:080:26:11

and worked at the oil refinery in Canvey Island.

0:26:110:26:14

He liked people to visit,

0:26:170:26:18

but he did seem to like his own company.

0:26:180:26:21

He got on really well. He used to cook his own dinners,

0:26:210:26:23

he used to go and make himself a cup of tea when he wanted to.

0:26:230:26:28

When I found out he'd passed away, it was a sad thing for me,

0:26:280:26:32

I must admit, because he was, again, he was such a lovely man.

0:26:320:26:36

It's been a very busy morning in the office,

0:26:410:26:43

as the team gets its teeth into Ralph's huge family tree.

0:26:430:26:47

They've found out that Ralph's father

0:26:470:26:49

had 11 brothers and sisters,

0:26:490:26:52

six of whom went on to have big families,

0:26:520:26:54

so Ralph had a lot of first cousins.

0:26:540:26:57

But most of these first cousins have passed away,

0:26:570:27:00

which means their children or grandchildren

0:27:000:27:03

are in line to inherit.

0:27:030:27:04

It looks like there are dozens of beneficiaries,

0:27:040:27:07

but the fact that most of them seem to have stayed

0:27:070:27:09

in the south-east of England is making them easier to track down.

0:27:090:27:14

For us it's looking quite good, though.

0:27:140:27:16

We're coming up on a lot of stems,

0:27:160:27:18

we're coming up on a lot of beneficiaries

0:27:180:27:20

and we're getting to speak to people,

0:27:200:27:21

so fingers crossed, we're doing quite well.

0:27:210:27:23

Jo has three travelling researchers on the road in Essex,

0:27:230:27:28

and they've already had success in treating heirs.

0:27:280:27:31

We've got a case at the moment where somebody's passed away

0:27:320:27:36

without leaving a will,

0:27:360:27:37

and we believe that that person is related to you.

0:27:370:27:40

So far, most of the work has been on Ralph's father's side of the family,

0:27:400:27:45

but as case manager Tony Pledger is discovering,

0:27:450:27:48

there's some interesting family history on his mother's side.

0:27:480:27:52

We have an Ella Letton living in the same house as,

0:27:520:27:55

and that's why we think she's a servant of,

0:27:550:27:57

Esme Tondaiman, the Rani of Pudukota.

0:27:570:28:02

Ralph's mother, Eveline Letton, had nine brothers and sisters.

0:28:020:28:06

One of them, Ella, had a son, Leonard.

0:28:060:28:10

Controversially for the time, he was born out of wedlock

0:28:100:28:13

and Ella did not stay with his father.

0:28:130:28:16

Leonard is Ralph's first cousin,

0:28:160:28:18

and the team have been to see him to inform him that he's an heir.

0:28:180:28:22

We had a ring of the doorbell, and there was this strange chap.

0:28:220:28:26

I shook hands with him, and he said,

0:28:260:28:27

"I've come about a possible legacy for you as a possible heir."

0:28:270:28:31

I said, "Well, I haven't got any relations,

0:28:310:28:33

so I don't know where this comes from,"

0:28:330:28:36

and he said, "Well, it looks like you might have.

0:28:360:28:39

"Who was your mother?"

0:28:390:28:41

So I said, "Well, she was Ella Letton."

0:28:410:28:43

Ella Letton was born in 1888 at Mucking in Essex.

0:28:430:28:48

As an unmarried mother, she had no choice but to go out to work,

0:28:480:28:52

and Leonard recalls spending months

0:28:520:28:54

living apart from his mother when he was growing up.

0:28:540:28:58

I was sort of farmed out in different families

0:28:580:29:00

for a great deal of time until the war.

0:29:000:29:03

Eventually I found out that I was staying with all these people

0:29:030:29:06

because my mother could not look after me on her own.

0:29:060:29:09

It's as simple as that.

0:29:090:29:10

She would have to give up work, and that wasn't possible.

0:29:100:29:13

And at this time, for Ella to keep her job,

0:29:130:29:16

she might have had to be discreet about her son.

0:29:160:29:20

It would not have been acceptable

0:29:210:29:23

for servants to have a child out of wedlock,

0:29:230:29:27

nor would it have been acceptable for most servants to marry

0:29:270:29:31

and remain in service.

0:29:310:29:33

Most women in particular would have expected

0:29:330:29:35

and been expected to retire on marriage,

0:29:350:29:38

so it would have been very unusual to have a son,

0:29:380:29:40

and that's perhaps why she kept the son

0:29:400:29:43

relatively low-key in her life.

0:29:430:29:46

Thousands of young women worked in service in the interwar period,

0:29:460:29:51

but Ella was no ordinary servant.

0:29:510:29:53

In fact, she was a sought-after society cook,

0:29:530:29:56

who spoke fluent French.

0:29:560:29:59

My mother was quite a self-made lady, she started off as a servant

0:29:590:30:04

in life, and then graduated up to the cooking status where she got

0:30:040:30:09

quite successful, and she cooked, I know, for a lot of people in the

0:30:090:30:14

Park Lane area, and used to travel to Scotland to prepare meals up there.

0:30:140:30:18

Once, she was involved in cooking a meal for Von Ribbentrop,

0:30:180:30:24

when he came over in 1938, when he was German Foreign Minister,

0:30:240:30:28

and she said, "I missed the chance to poison him!"

0:30:280:30:33

A cook was a very senior position in the household, it was,

0:30:340:30:37

along with the housekeeper,

0:30:370:30:38

one of the most senior female roles that you could have.

0:30:380:30:41

It meant that you would have had authority over other servants.

0:30:410:30:44

It was well-paid, the living conditions were quite good.

0:30:440:30:47

Hours would have been long, that doesn't mean that there was

0:30:470:30:50

no time off in the day, but it would have been an early start

0:30:500:30:53

and a late finish, and, yes,

0:30:530:30:55

there would have been a lot of pressure to get it right, especially

0:30:550:30:58

if you're cooking for upper-class society dinner parties and so on.

0:30:580:31:04

She told me that a lot of the cooking that she did was French.

0:31:040:31:09

When she died, I was clearing out some of the stuff

0:31:090:31:13

and I found two very large cookbooks, all handwritten,

0:31:130:31:17

all in French, in my mother's handwriting.

0:31:170:31:20

As to who she cooked for, I never met anybody,

0:31:200:31:24

I was never introduced to anybody, so, in actual fact,

0:31:240:31:27

I have no idea who she cooked for.

0:31:270:31:29

Electoral rolls from the 1930s show that Ella had at least one

0:31:310:31:35

very grand employer, Esme Tondiman,

0:31:350:31:39

the wife of the Maharaja of the Indian State of Pudokkottai.

0:31:390:31:42

In 1915, the mixed-race marriage between the Australian

0:31:430:31:47

socialite, known as Molly, and the Maharaja caused a public scandal.

0:31:470:31:52

The couple were ostracised by the British establishment who

0:31:520:31:55

refused to recognise her as the Maharani.

0:31:550:31:59

After her husband's death in 1928, Molly moved to Mayfair in London,

0:31:590:32:04

where Ella Letton became her cook.

0:32:040:32:06

To learn that my mother was eventually

0:32:070:32:10

cooking for the Maharaja's wife, would be quite a good thing to

0:32:100:32:15

know, and it shows me what heights she achieved her cooking skills.

0:32:150:32:20

Ella's life seems to be a very successful life,

0:32:200:32:23

she had perhaps the career that she wanted,

0:32:230:32:25

but, we might look back and ask ourselves -

0:32:250:32:29

Was it sad for her that she didn't

0:32:290:32:30

get to bring up her own children personally?

0:32:300:32:33

I was extremely fond of my mother, and she always treated me well,

0:32:330:32:38

and when she visited me, she always came armed with a good book or

0:32:380:32:42

a present or something for me, which I was always very grateful for,

0:32:420:32:45

but when I lived with her I found out more about what she was like,

0:32:450:32:49

and she was a good woman.

0:32:490:32:50

I sadly missed her.

0:32:500:32:52

Back in the office, the heir hunters are still working

0:32:560:32:59

the case of Ella's nephew, Ralph Hammond, and they may have

0:32:590:33:02

finally broken the back of the giant paternal family tree.

0:33:020:33:06

It's just a huge family, and we are trying to put

0:33:060:33:09

the meat on the bones, really, now. To complete the research

0:33:090:33:13

and find the last heir is certainly going to be weeks, if not months.

0:33:130:33:18

They think they have now identified most of the living relatives

0:33:180:33:21

and out on the road,

0:33:210:33:23

the three travelling researchers are seeing as many of them as they can.

0:33:230:33:28

And this is the Hammond family tree.

0:33:280:33:31

Fantastic.

0:33:310:33:33

That's the agreement.

0:33:330:33:35

That's it, Dennis and Robert, that's it, isn't it?

0:33:350:33:37

-we haven't got any other brothers or sisters?

-Nope.

0:33:370:33:40

The team now knows of around 90 heirs to Ralph's

0:33:400:33:43

estimated £160,000 estate.

0:33:430:33:47

Partner Neil is hoping most of them will sign up with the company.

0:33:470:33:51

We have got some beneficiaries who are the only heirs on the stamp,

0:33:510:33:55

so therefore they are entitled to £20,000.

0:33:550:33:58

We have also got some heirs

0:33:580:34:00

who are only entitled to £50 - £100,

0:34:000:34:03

so it is important for us that we

0:34:030:34:04

get to see the beneficiaries who are entitled to £20,000,

0:34:040:34:07

and just write to the beneficiaries who are entitled to £100.

0:34:070:34:11

It's a very careful balancing situation.

0:34:110:34:14

For new case manager, Jo, this job,

0:34:140:34:17

with its sprawling family tree has been a baptism of fire, but thanks

0:34:170:34:21

to her own hard work, and the support of her team, she has managed

0:34:210:34:25

to avoid the many potential pitfalls and crack this completed case.

0:34:250:34:30

The travellers have done really well, spoken to lots of heirs

0:34:300:34:33

today, and everyone in the office has done lots and lots of research.

0:34:330:34:36

I'm pleased with how well it has come out,

0:34:360:34:38

and considering the pure amount of people

0:34:380:34:40

that was on the tree originally,

0:34:400:34:42

I am pleased with how much we managed to do in such a short space of time.

0:34:420:34:47

A few weeks later,

0:34:490:34:51

and Neil has heard news on the final value of Ralph's estate, and it is

0:34:510:34:55

even better than that £160,000 he had originally estimated.

0:34:550:35:01

In the last three weeks a claim has been

0:35:010:35:03

accepted by the Treasury Solicitor, that claim has been

0:35:030:35:07

valued at £270,000, approximately twice the value I thought it was.

0:35:070:35:12

Jo, who has been managing this case,

0:35:120:35:14

it's one of the first cases that she has really properly managed,

0:35:140:35:17

and to have a case with this many beneficiaries handled

0:35:170:35:21

in this way, with such speed, is really quite incredible,

0:35:210:35:23

and I'm very proud of what she's done.

0:35:230:35:26

In Liverpool, Saul Marks of heir hunting firm, Celtic Research,

0:35:310:35:35

was trying to find beneficiaries to

0:35:350:35:37

the £18,000 estate of Arthur Thorne.

0:35:370:35:40

He died in London in 2003,

0:35:400:35:42

and had been a well loved figure in his local church.

0:35:420:35:46

I think I would like Arthur to be remembered for what he was,

0:35:460:35:49

which was a nice, self-contained, very polite person.

0:35:490:35:54

I remember him as being very formal, always shaking hands,

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saying, "Good morning."

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It would be nice if Arthur could be remembered by his memory

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at least being reunited with his relatives that are still alive.

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One of those relatives is Christina Morrison,

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whose father Frederick was Arthur's older brother.

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She remembers her uncle as a talented musician who had

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an exciting working life.

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Arthur was always known to the family as Archie.

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He was a very handsome, dapper man.

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Worked in Harrods and he was musical and played the piano.

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Pauline Rainsford is another of Arthur's nieces.

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When she got the call from the heir hunters about her uncle,

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it was a name she hadn't heard for a very long time.

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I didn't know that Uncle Archie had died,

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though I thought he must've done.

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So, when somebody got in touch with me

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it came as a bolt out of the blue.

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The fact that Archie was alive in 2003 is crazy, because we could

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have all enjoyed each other's company, he would have,

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he might not have enjoyed us so much, but we would have liked

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to have seen him, as we would with any of our other family.

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It has made me think back to my Uncle Archie, it has made me

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think back to my childhood, and I wish I knew more about him.

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I have fond memories of him, he took me to places I would never

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have gone in my early years, he was delightful, he was delightful,

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and I would hope other people had the same memories of him.

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Heir hunter, Saul Marks, discovered that Arthur was one of six

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brothers, all of whom had died before him.

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Four of these brothers had married and had children,

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and these were all heirs to Arthur's estimated £18,000 estate.

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The heirs I spoke to on this case all remembered their Uncle Archie

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quite well, he was a popular figure from their childhood,

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but they had all lost touch with him over many, many years,

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so none of them were aware that he had actually passed away.

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And it wasn't just Arthur that the Thorne family had lost touch with.

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Because of the threat to the capital city during the Second World War,

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some of the family had gone from West London to the West Country

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and never returned.

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Consequently,

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the next generation of Thornes knew virtually nothing about one another.

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Often, families found it very difficult to reunite after

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the war, because over that long period of time people do change,

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and they adapt, and they evolve, especially children,

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so, often children would have gone away at nine and they came back at

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14, 15, they were now young adults, they were almost unrecognisable, they

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would certainly have evolved and changed from the people they were.

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For the Thorne family, the heir hunters investigating their

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Uncle Arthur's estate has opened up a whole new world.

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I think we're all very excited to know that we have got cousins,

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I'd like to learn a bit more about their dads, our uncles,

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and I think it would be just fun to see them.

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Today, Christina is travelling from Somerset

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and Pauline from Sussex to the home of their cousin, Nell, in Shepperton.

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Nell is the eldest of the three cousins.

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A bit nervous. Yes.

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It will be quite an experience, it will be nice to see them.

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These three ladies have never been in a room together before.

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I'm feeling very excited, and looking forward very much to

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seeing my cousins, and I hope they are looking forward to seeing me.

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I am very curious to find out about my father's past life

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and his brothers, because although I knew they existed

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they seemed to have stretched to the four corners of the country.

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-Hello!

-Hello, Nell!

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-Hello, darling!

-Long time no see.

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Nell and Pauline have not seen each other for more than 30 years,

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and Christina has never met either of her cousins.

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Hello.

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-Hello.

-Are you Christina?

-I'm Chris. And you are Nell.

-Yes.

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I haven't seen you before, have I, darling?

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No, you haven't, it's lovely to meet you.

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-It's very kind of you to come.

-Hello.

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-Hello, how are you?

-I'm very well, and you?

-Lovely to meet you.

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You are a complete stranger.

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Here we are, Nell, here's a little something for you.

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-That's very kind of you.

-And a little something for you.

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Oh, my goodness, how kind of you! That's lovely!

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I can't take my eyes off you!

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Over a cup of tea, the ladies soon settle down to swapping

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stories about their long-lost uncle.

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Do you know anything about Uncle Arthur?

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He was always Uncle Archie.

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Yes, we only ever heard him as Archie.

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He was a brilliant guy, really nice. Really kind.

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But it's the photographs they've brought along to share that

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really bring the family stories to life.

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So, this is our grandmother with her six boys.

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That's Archie, Fred, we think Tom,

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Harry, and my dad, Ted.

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My dad adored his mum and he was absolutely heart- broken

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when she died.

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And even though they have not shared the last few

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decades of their lives, it seems they have an awful lot in common.

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This one, of Uncle Fred, now, my brother has got this up on his wall.

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-Crazy!

-He treasures it.

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And didn't he win the Army heavyweight boxing title?

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When he won that, my mum and dad were at the Albert Hall.

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My mum got so excited, the man sitting in front of her,

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she banged her hands down and squashed his bowler hat!

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LAUGHTER

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With this unique opportunity to meet up and share family history,

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the cousins can't help but return to talking about the person who

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brought them all together.

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There's Archie.

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-Did you hear that he worked in Harrods?

-Yes.

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-And also he was a very good pianist?

-I just remember the voice.

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It was my dad's funeral.

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I knew he could sing, but in the church where you get this

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echoing and everything, oh, it was so beautiful, it made me cry.

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After such an enlightening day,

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the cousins feel pleased with all they can take away from their meeting.

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I was very, very happy to see everybody and it was

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so lovely to meet Christina.

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I haven't met Pauline for about 30 years, I think it is.

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It's been great fun, and maybe we will meet up in the future,

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who knows?

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I think Archie's got a lot to answer for and I think he's a lovely,

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lovely man for bringing us all together.

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