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Heir hunters specialise in tracking down people | 0:00:01 | 0:00:04 | |
who are entitled to money from someone who's died. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
It was difficult to find you, actually. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
Sometimes the deceased has become estranged from their family. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Sometimes they simply haven't left a will. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Either way, the heir hunters must make sure | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
that any unclaimed money goes to the right people. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
When the heir hunters contacted us, it was amazing. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Their work involves painstaking investigation. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
So these kids could all be right, all be wrong or half and half. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
But it can bring families back together. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
That's lovely! | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Most of all, though, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
the work is about giving people news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Coming up on today's programme - | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
the death of an Essex man | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
leads the heir hunters to a colossal family tree. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
What's happening is we've got a large top line | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
and then each of those top line | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
are having massive families themselves. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
And an emotional family meeting. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
-Hello, Nell! -Hello, darling! | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Long time no see. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
Plus how you could be entitled to inherit | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
unclaimed estates held by the Treasury. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
London. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
And at the country's biggest firm of heir hunters, Fraser & Fraser, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
boss Neil has picked up a new case. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Ralph Leonard Kenneth Hammond died in Rayleigh in Essex | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
just before Christmas last year. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
So a pretty fresh case. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
Heir hunters' work can come from a variety of sources. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Each week, the Treasury Solicitor | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
publishes a list of unclaimed estates. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Cases are sometimes referred by solicitors or concerned neighbours. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Today, the heir hunters are acting on a tip-off | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
that Ralph died without leaving a will. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
If they can't find beneficiaries, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
his estate will go to the government. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
And it's thought to be of substantial value. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
He owns a property, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:08 | |
so we're probably looking at a case with a value of about £160,000. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
On a case like this, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
the heir hunters will take a percentage of the estate | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
in return for their work. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
But they'll only get paid if they find Ralph's heirs. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
Born in 1922, Ralph Hammond was 89 years old | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
when he died at his home in Rayleigh in Essex. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Friend and neighbour Stuart Thomson used to keep an eye on Ralph | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
and do odd jobs for him. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
He was always jolly. He was always pleased to see somebody. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
We knew he liked his football. He liked Arsenal. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
And he loved his cricket. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
He always used to talk about his cricket. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
He used to go to Chelmsford. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
As far as we all knew, there was no relations. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
He never mentioned family. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
The only person he did mention a couple of times was his mother. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
A very private and personal man, he was. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
Sadly, Ralph lost his sight towards the end of his life. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
But it didn't stop him keeping up with what was going on in the world. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
He was a funny guy. He had these different radios. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
All tuned into different radio stations. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
So when he wanted to listen to something, he had one radio on. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
If he wanted to listen to something else, he'd put the other one on. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
If he wanted to listen to something else, he'd put the other one on. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Sometimes you'd go in there and you've got three radios going. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Although for his impairments, he looked after himself. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
And he didn't want to intrude on people's help. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
When I found out he'd passed away, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
it was a sad thing for me, I must admit. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Because he was such a lovely man. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
What can I say? He was such a lovely man. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
In the office, the investigation to find beneficiaries | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
to Ralph's estate is in full swing. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Call him after 12:00 and make an appointment | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
because apparently, he's out until then. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
The team are working on a tip-off, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
but it won't be long before this case | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
is advertised by the Treasury Solicitor. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
And that will mean rival heir hunting firms could pick it up. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
So they have to work fast. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
So these kids could all be right, all be wrong or half and half. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
The first thing they've been able to establish | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
is that Ralph was a bachelor and had no children. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
This means the heir hunters must now look to the wider family tree. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
Thomas and Alice. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
-Thomas... -Thomas Frederick. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
They will look to see if either of Ralph's parents | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
had brothers and sisters. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
If any of these aunts or uncles had children, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
then they would be heirs to Ralph's estate. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Right name, right place. Who knows? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
But it's easier said than done. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
As case manager Jo Ibrahim gets to grips with the investigation, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
it soon begins to dawn on her | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
that Ralph's father was part of a huge family. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
This case is quite big. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
We've got ten uncles and aunts of the deceased | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
just on the paternal side. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
And they all seem to have quite a lot of children, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
so it's quite a big family. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
Jo has only recently become a case manager. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
With the discovery that Ralph's father was part of a massive family, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
it's becoming clear that this is not going to be | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
an easy one to cut her teeth on. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
I believe he went and saw you earlier today. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
She can't fall at the first hurdle. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
And on this job, there are lots of them. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
It's what they call a massive one! | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
She decides the only way to deal with so many stems of the family | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
is to divide and conquer. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
And she drafts in more and more researchers to help with the work. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Do you want to take this one, Ben? That one? Yeah. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
At the moment, we're just looking at the family, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
making sure that someone is working on each part of the family | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
to try and see if we can get more people up to date. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
But because it's so big, we're having to give out stems to each person. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
Cheers. Thanks. 'Bye. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Ralph Hammond's father had 11 brothers and sisters. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
Six of whom went on to have big families. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Which means that Ralph had dozens of first cousins. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
If any of these cousins are alive, they would be heirs. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
If they, too, have passed away, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
then their children would be in line to inherit. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
It's a dauntingly large family, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
but a challenge that some of the team relish. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
It's an enormous tree. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
And what's happening is we've got a large top line | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
and then each of those top line | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
are having massive families themselves. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
We're having, you know, if there's eight or ten on the top line, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
each child from that top line is having seven or eight children themselves. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
And it's just like a fountain coming down. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
It's going to be enormous. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
The sheer size of the job means that Jo really has her work cut out. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
As head of this investigation, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
the onus is on her to make sure it runs smoothly | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
and gets solved fast. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
Everyone in the office, even senior staff like case manager Dave Slee, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
is working to her lead. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
I feel sorry for Jo. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
It's a hell of a big family tree to cut her teeth on. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
So...she's doing well. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
But Jo has more help just ready and waiting. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
The company has a team of travelling heir hunters | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
who are out on the road and ready to go wherever they're needed. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
It's their job to collect certificates, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
make enquiries and sign up heirs. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
I think we've got our work cut out with this one. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Out on the road today are Bob Smith, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
Dave Hadley and Bob Barratt. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
All in the Essex area, waiting to be dispatched. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
Bob Smith is about to get further instructions from Dave Slee, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
who has been working on the stem of one of Ralph' uncles, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
George Hammond. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
I've got an address for you. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
OK. Which stem's it on? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
If you go top line, George Arthur Hammond. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
I don't know what your tree shows. Does it come down to Dorothy Elizabeth Hammond? | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Yeah. She marries Alfred. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
OK. We've got her being born 1900, Romford. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
1901, yeah. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
-Go to Hornchurch and then phone us and we'll let you know. -OK. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-Thank you, Bob. Speak to you later. -Yeah. 'Bye. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
The heir hunters think they may have located a cousin | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
who would be an heir to Ralph's estimated £160,000 estate. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
So Bob is hitting the road. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
In the office, the whole team is still working on the Hammond case. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
It's a risky strategy. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
If it doesn't get solved, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
or another firm of heir hunters gets in first, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
the company will have wasted money and manpower. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
Technically, we have three family trees working in the office. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Jo's got the original one we've been working with, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Tony's gone upstairs to update the current working tree | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
and we're working on a copy at the moment | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
which is actually in two bits. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Jo has got a not-easy task at the moment. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
She's controlling probably about five or six managers. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
Me, a partner, and 20 researchers, as well. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
I think they've got four people out on the road working, as well. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
So not an easy task for Jo. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
She's not been in this game a huge amount of time and certainly, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
this is probably the biggest job she's had to run. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
I quite like the big families because | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
in some cases, the research can be quite quick now. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
And there's no fun in that. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Essentially, that's what we are, we're researchers. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
It's nice to be able to do research and do it throughout the day. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
We look at a stem, we move on. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:28 | |
We look at another stem, we move on again. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
The advantage is we've got numbers, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
so we can look at a large job all in one go. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
It is just the sort of work they relish. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
It seems like most of the office is tackling branches | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
of the Hammond family tree. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Currently, we're having a look at Alice and Ruth Richardson. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
Um...found a marriage so far for Alice, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
but can't find anything else for her since. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
She had two children, by the looks of it. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
One of them died infant | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
and the other one seems to have disappeared. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
At the moment, it looks like the right people, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
but obviously, without certificates, we won't know for definite. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
And it's quite an early stage. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Because the family are quite a large family, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
it can easily be the right people in the wrong sort of place. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
So hopefully, by speaking to the family, we might know a bit more. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
In Essex, travelling researcher Bob Smith | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
has arrived at the home of Edward Vinton. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Mr Vinton's mother was Ralph Hammond's first cousin, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
so he may be entitled to a share of the estate. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
It's now down to Bob to check that he is indeed a family member | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
and if the office's research is correct. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
If it is, then Mr Vinton is an heir to Ralph's estate. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
Was your mum married more than once? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
No. Just that once. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Just the once. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
And your brothers and sisters, can you name them? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Who's the eldest? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
My sister. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
What was her name? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
-Gwendoline Doris. -Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Do you know when she was born? | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
Um... | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
Well, she's between nine and ten years older than me. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
OK, so about 1922, 23? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Yeah. Yes. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
It's good news for the team. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Bob confirms that Mr Vinton is Ralph's first cousin once removed | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
and therefore, an heir to his estate. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
On a case like this, the heir hunters | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
will help a relative claim their share for a percentage fee. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
And Bob leaves a contract for Mr Vinton to sign. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
It's been a worthwhile visit. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Although he was very helpful in terms of giving us information | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
about his own particular branch of the family, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
he didn't remember the deceased. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
But still very useful. Lovely chap. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
And it will enable us to contact other family members | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
so we can sort of move them forward quickly. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
And the search for heirs is really gathering pace now. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
In a different part of Essex, travelling researcher Dave Hadley | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
has been dispatched to see another potential heir. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
The team believe Alex Grover | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
is another first cousin once removed to Ralph | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
and so entitled to a share of the estate. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-Mr Grover? -Speaking. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Dave Hadley. Pleased to meet you. There's my card. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
But Dave needs to make sure their research is correct. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Can you call out your brothers and sisters for me? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Call out their names. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
-The eldest, Frederick. -Frederick. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
-Mm-hm. -Did he have a middle name at all? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
-Don't look at me, he's your brother. -I know he is, yeah. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
In the office, the team have been hard at it for several hours. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
And they're beginning to get | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
the enormous paternal family tree under control. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
We're now getting to the point where | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
we're looking at the holes in, um...in the tree. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
So we're starting to concentrate on little bits where there's no address. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
So...I think... | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
we've got something on every stem, as far as I'm aware. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
So we're really just trying to finish off the bits. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
But that's only 50 percent of the job. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Case managers Tony Pledger and Ben Cornish | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
begin to work on Ralph's mother's family. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Right, OK. The maternal is... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
you've got the mother of the deceased is Eveline Hilda Letton. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
Eveline Letton had almost as many brothers and sisters as her husband. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Nine in total. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
But only five of these siblings lived to be adults. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Any children they had would be cousins to Ralph | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
and so heirs to his estate. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
And Tony quickly uncovers that one of Ralph's aunts | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
had an interesting working life. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
We think that we've found her as a servant | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
on the electoral roll in London | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
in the 1930s. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
She's living in the same house as, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
this is why we think she's the servant of | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Esmee Tondiman | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
the Ranee of Pudukota. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
It looks like the heir hunters have uncovered | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
a real-life upstairs downstairs story. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
It would not have been acceptable for servants | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
to have a child out of wedlock, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
nor would it have been acceptable for most servants | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
to marry and remain in service. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
At the beginning of their search, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
heir hunters often have very little information to go on. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
But the process of tracing heirs | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
can sometimes reveal some intriguing family history. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
It's something a bit unusual and interesting. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Based in Liverpool, Saul Marks of Celtic Research | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
specialises in estates that have sat unclaimed for several years. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
The toughest to crack. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
And this next case was no exception. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Arthur Thorne died in 2003 | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
in Raynes Park, London, aged 92. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
He never married, nor had children | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
and it appeared he had no family. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
But he was a dedicated member of his local church. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Sarah Colley was part of the same congregation. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
I think I would have been about six or seven when I first Arthur | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
because that was when I started to come to church | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
with my grandparents and my parents. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
He was a sidesman here. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
Took it in turns with my grandfather and two other people. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Arthur's role would be to hand out the books to the congregation | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
as they arrived, and then collect the collection | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
and take it up to the altar to be blessed at the end of the service. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
I remember him sitting in his own special pew, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
collecting the money, and being introduced to him | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
and saying hello at each service. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Arthur was very polite, I remember that. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Shook hands, always said good morning, always had a nice smile. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
It's very sad that people can lose touch completely with their family, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:46 | |
so maybe Arthur found fulfilment here. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
Arthur died without leaving a will, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
which meant that his estate was published on | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
the Treasury Solicitors' Bona Vacantia list. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
If a living heir could not be traced, then the money would | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
go to the government rather than Arthur's family. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Heir hunter Saul was keen to stop this from happening. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
We picked this case from the Treasury Solicitor's list of unclaimed estates | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
in the summer of 2011, and the reason we picked this one in particular | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
was it looked like the value would make it | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
worth our while researching. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Arthur's estate was estimated to be worth around £18,000. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
If Saul could find and sign up heirs, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
he'd get a pre-agreed percentage of the estate, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
but the Bona Vacantia list gives heir hunters | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
very little information to work with. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
We started with the deceased's name, date of death and place of death. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
That tends to be all we have to start with on any of our cases. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
One of the first things I did was to find the deceased's date of birth, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:51 | |
which I was able to do because he died in 2003, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
and the 2003 death indexes allow us the date of birth. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
We established fairly early on in this case that the deceased | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
was born in the first few months of 1911, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
which made it very easy for us | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
to just look him up on the 1911 Census. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
And it was this crucial document that unlocked the case for Saul, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
explaining why it had sat unclaimed on the list for several years. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
The 1911 Census was only published in 2009, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
so there was a six-year period | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
when this case really was pretty much impossible. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
But once the census was published, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
Saul was able to find Arthur living at an address in London, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
a home he shared with his parents and five brothers. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Arthur was one of six sons born to Edward Thorne and Ellen Forbes. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
His eldest brother Thomas died in 1933, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
but the rest of his brothers, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
Harry, Edward, Frederick and William, all married. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Any of their children would be heirs to Arthur's estate. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
The deceased's eldest brother Thomas seemed to die quite young, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
in his 20s, so once we'd established that he'd not got married earlier | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
and had children, which he hadn't, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
we could rule his line out completely. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
Of the surviving four brothers, we found marriages for all of them, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
and we actually found deaths for all of them, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
and they'd all had families of their own | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
from each of their marriages, so we knew that this case | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
was going to be all about finding nieces and nephews of the deceased. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
As Saul researched each of Arthur's brothers, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
he found it unusually easy to trace beneficiaries | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
using death indexes and the Census. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Normally, we use a lot of birth, marriage and death certificates | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
in our work to try and track people down. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
In this particular case, we didn't actually need to use any. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
What we did was we used the indexes and the census | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
to be able to solve the case, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and then we could just speak to the heirs | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
and they led us to the other heirs, and the case was solved. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
But there was one detail that cast his research into doubt. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
One of the odd things I came across in this case was that | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
the deceased's brother Frederick had married in London | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
and had some children in London, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
and then there seemed to be other children born | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
to the same name combination of parents, but in Weston-super-Mare, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
and that's quite unusual, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
because obviously two different sides of the country. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Could this be another couple with the same name? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
Or had Frederick and his wife Lily | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
moved their family 150 miles west from their native London? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
When Saul traced one of the couple's youngest children, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Christina Morrison, he found the answer. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
When the heir hunters contacted us, it was amazing. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
It was just unbelievable to think that we had an uncle | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
who was still alive in 2003, and quite sad too. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
Dad joined the army when he was quite young, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
and during the war, when the Blitz was on in London, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Mum and the three oldest children | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
were evacuated out to Weston-super-Mare, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
where the rest of us were all born. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
During the build-up to World War II, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
the fear of attack from German bombers prompted the government | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
to evacuate Britain's towns and cities. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Nearly 3,000,000 people, most of them children, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
were uprooted from their homes | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
and sent to the relative safety of the countryside. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
The government were very keen | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
that we could get rid of as many useless mouths, as they were called, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
from the likely areas that would be bombed, to get them to safety. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:28 | |
Evacuation was never compulsory. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
The government quite rightly saw that that would be a morale disaster, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
to force people to go, and so they had to put in a lot of effort | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
to convince people to send their children away | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
or to go away themselves, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
and this went on from about 1937 onwards, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
they were beginning to put these kind of ideas, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
propaganda involved, getting people to think | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
that it would be a good idea | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
to move their children from danger itself. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Terrified by the prospect of a German bombing campaign, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
thousands of families fled to safer rural and coastal areas. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
Many, like the Thornes, never returned home, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
and lost contact with their extended families. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
I'm sure it was horrendous for them | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
when they left all their family behind. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
It must have been very, very difficult. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
Very lonely, and Mum was from a big family herself, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
and she left them all behind, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
but she was more frightened that the children would be killed. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Obviously, evacuation was hugely emotional. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
For many families, it was the first time they've ever been split up. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Families on the whole moved a lot less. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
Many families never went on holiday, for instance. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
You were day-to-day in contact with your siblings | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
and your children and your parents all your life. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
It became clear to Saul that he was dealing with a family | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
who had become fragmented by the war. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
His job now was to piece all the Thorne brothers | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
and their families back together, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
and in turn, reunite them with their uncle Arthur's £18,000 estate. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
We assumed that, as our dad died so young, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
the other brothers had virtually followed suit, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
because we didn't keep in touch with any of the family. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
But all that might be about to change. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
As a result of Saul's search for heirs, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Arthur Thorne's remaining family members | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
have been put in touch with each other. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
I can't tell you how excited we all are | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
to know that there's more family around, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
and we're looking forward so much to seeing them. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
It'll be the first time that some of Arthur's family, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
separated by war, have ever met. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
-It's lovely to meet you. -You're a complete stranger! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
I can't take my eyes off... I can't take my eyes off of you. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
Heir hunters use their specialist skills to track down | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
thousands of rightful beneficiaries every year, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
but not every case can be cracked. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
There are around 2,000 names | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
on the Bona Vacantia list of unclaimed estates | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
that have eluded the heir hunters and remain unsolved. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
Cases will stay on the unclaimed list for a period of 12 years | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
from the date that the administration has been completed, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and that's a period of time that people still can come forward | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
and claim the estate. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Today we're focusing on two cases that stumped the heir hunters. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
Could you be the heir they've been looking for? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
First is the case of Gordon Stead. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
He died in Shipley in West Yorkshire | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
on 9th April, 2011 at the age of 84. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
Gordon was born in Bradford, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
and his parents were William Stead and Alice Patchett. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
The heir hunters believe he may have been married twice, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
but so far, they've only found records of one marriage, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
to a Barbara Slater in 1953. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Do you have any more information about Gordon? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Could you be one of his relatives? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Next is the case of Tex Orrico, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
a jazz musician who died in Marylebone in London | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
on 28th September, 2009. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Heir hunters believe the name Orrico may come from Nigeria, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
and could be a variation of Oriaku or Oriaky, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
but unless someone knows where Tex was born, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
it could be difficult to trace his relatives. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Could you be related to Tex, or do you know | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
anything about his family history that could help crack the case? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
Both Tex Orrico and Gordon Stead's estates remain unclaimed, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
and if no one comes forward, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
their money will go to the government. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
If it belongs to someone else, we simply don't want it, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
so we're very pleased when people come forward. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
So do you have any clues | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
that could help solve the cases of Tex Orrico or Gordon Stead? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
If so, you could have an inheritance coming your way. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
In London, the team at heir hunting firm Fraser and Fraser | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
are working on the case of Ralph Hammond, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and they're already dealing with a mammoth family tree. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
So you can try and sort all that out, start from the beginning. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Let Jacko do that. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
Case manager Jo Ibrahim is running the research, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
and the entire office is working flat out to try and find heirs. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Michael, do you want to sort this lot out? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
What's going on here? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Ralph Hammond passed away in December 2011 | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
in Rayleigh in Essex. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
He was 89 years old. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
He spent the last few years of his life living alone, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
but he had plenty of company from friends and neighbours, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
like Stuart Thompson. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
He was very, very jolly, but very private. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
He was always pleased to see somebody, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
somebody he could trust, basically. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Although he lost his sight towards the end of his life, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
he still managed to keep active. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Not much is known about Ralph's background, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
but it's thought he served in the RAF | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
and worked at the oil refinery in Canvey Island. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
He liked people to visit, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
but he did seem to like his own company. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
He got on really well. He used to cook his own dinners, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
he used to go and make himself a cup of tea when he wanted to. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
When I found out he'd passed away, it was a sad thing for me, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
I must admit, because he was, again, he was such a lovely man. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
It's been a very busy morning in the office, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
as the team gets its teeth into Ralph's huge family tree. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
They've found out that Ralph's father | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
had 11 brothers and sisters, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
six of whom went on to have big families, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
so Ralph had a lot of first cousins. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
But most of these first cousins have passed away, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
which means their children or grandchildren | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
are in line to inherit. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
It looks like there are dozens of beneficiaries, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
but the fact that most of them seem to have stayed | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
in the south-east of England is making them easier to track down. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
For us it's looking quite good, though. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
We're coming up on a lot of stems, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
we're coming up on a lot of beneficiaries | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
and we're getting to speak to people, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:21 | |
so fingers crossed, we're doing quite well. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
Jo has three travelling researchers on the road in Essex, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
and they've already had success in treating heirs. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
We've got a case at the moment where somebody's passed away | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
without leaving a will, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
and we believe that that person is related to you. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
So far, most of the work has been on Ralph's father's side of the family, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
but as case manager Tony Pledger is discovering, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
there's some interesting family history on his mother's side. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
We have an Ella Letton living in the same house as, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and that's why we think she's a servant of, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
Esme Tondaiman, the Rani of Pudukota. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
Ralph's mother, Eveline Letton, had nine brothers and sisters. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
One of them, Ella, had a son, Leonard. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
Controversially for the time, he was born out of wedlock | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
and Ella did not stay with his father. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Leonard is Ralph's first cousin, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
and the team have been to see him to inform him that he's an heir. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
We had a ring of the doorbell, and there was this strange chap. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
I shook hands with him, and he said, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
"I've come about a possible legacy for you as a possible heir." | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
I said, "Well, I haven't got any relations, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
so I don't know where this comes from," | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
and he said, "Well, it looks like you might have. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
"Who was your mother?" | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
So I said, "Well, she was Ella Letton." | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Ella Letton was born in 1888 at Mucking in Essex. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
As an unmarried mother, she had no choice but to go out to work, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
and Leonard recalls spending months | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
living apart from his mother when he was growing up. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
I was sort of farmed out in different families | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
for a great deal of time until the war. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Eventually I found out that I was staying with all these people | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
because my mother could not look after me on her own. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
It's as simple as that. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
She would have to give up work, and that wasn't possible. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
And at this time, for Ella to keep her job, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
she might have had to be discreet about her son. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
It would not have been acceptable | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
for servants to have a child out of wedlock, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
nor would it have been acceptable for most servants to marry | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
and remain in service. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
Most women in particular would have expected | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
and been expected to retire on marriage, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
so it would have been very unusual to have a son, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
and that's perhaps why she kept the son | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
relatively low-key in her life. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Thousands of young women worked in service in the interwar period, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
but Ella was no ordinary servant. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
In fact, she was a sought-after society cook, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
who spoke fluent French. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
My mother was quite a self-made lady, she started off as a servant | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
in life, and then graduated up to the cooking status where she got | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
quite successful, and she cooked, I know, for a lot of people in the | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
Park Lane area, and used to travel to Scotland to prepare meals up there. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
Once, she was involved in cooking a meal for Von Ribbentrop, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:24 | |
when he came over in 1938, when he was German Foreign Minister, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
and she said, "I missed the chance to poison him!" | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
A cook was a very senior position in the household, it was, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
along with the housekeeper, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
one of the most senior female roles that you could have. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
It meant that you would have had authority over other servants. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
It was well-paid, the living conditions were quite good. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Hours would have been long, that doesn't mean that there was | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
no time off in the day, but it would have been an early start | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
and a late finish, and, yes, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
there would have been a lot of pressure to get it right, especially | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
if you're cooking for upper-class society dinner parties and so on. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:04 | |
She told me that a lot of the cooking that she did was French. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
When she died, I was clearing out some of the stuff | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
and I found two very large cookbooks, all handwritten, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
all in French, in my mother's handwriting. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
As to who she cooked for, I never met anybody, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
I was never introduced to anybody, so, in actual fact, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
I have no idea who she cooked for. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
Electoral rolls from the 1930s show that Ella had at least one | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
very grand employer, Esme Tondiman, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
the wife of the Maharaja of the Indian State of Pudokkottai. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
In 1915, the mixed-race marriage between the Australian | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
socialite, known as Molly, and the Maharaja caused a public scandal. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
The couple were ostracised by the British establishment who | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
refused to recognise her as the Maharani. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
After her husband's death in 1928, Molly moved to Mayfair in London, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
where Ella Letton became her cook. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
To learn that my mother was eventually | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
cooking for the Maharaja's wife, would be quite a good thing to | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
know, and it shows me what heights she achieved her cooking skills. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
Ella's life seems to be a very successful life, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
she had perhaps the career that she wanted, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
but, we might look back and ask ourselves - | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
Was it sad for her that she didn't | 0:32:29 | 0:32:30 | |
get to bring up her own children personally? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
I was extremely fond of my mother, and she always treated me well, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
and when she visited me, she always came armed with a good book or | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
a present or something for me, which I was always very grateful for, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
but when I lived with her I found out more about what she was like, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
and she was a good woman. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
I sadly missed her. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Back in the office, the heir hunters are still working | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
the case of Ella's nephew, Ralph Hammond, and they may have | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
finally broken the back of the giant paternal family tree. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
It's just a huge family, and we are trying to put | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
the meat on the bones, really, now. To complete the research | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
and find the last heir is certainly going to be weeks, if not months. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
They think they have now identified most of the living relatives | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
and out on the road, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
the three travelling researchers are seeing as many of them as they can. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
And this is the Hammond family tree. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
Fantastic. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
That's the agreement. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
That's it, Dennis and Robert, that's it, isn't it? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
-we haven't got any other brothers or sisters? -Nope. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
The team now knows of around 90 heirs to Ralph's | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
estimated £160,000 estate. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
Partner Neil is hoping most of them will sign up with the company. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
We have got some beneficiaries who are the only heirs on the stamp, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
so therefore they are entitled to £20,000. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
We have also got some heirs | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
who are only entitled to £50 - £100, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
so it is important for us that we | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
get to see the beneficiaries who are entitled to £20,000, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and just write to the beneficiaries who are entitled to £100. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
It's a very careful balancing situation. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
For new case manager, Jo, this job, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
with its sprawling family tree has been a baptism of fire, but thanks | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
to her own hard work, and the support of her team, she has managed | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
to avoid the many potential pitfalls and crack this completed case. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
The travellers have done really well, spoken to lots of heirs | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
today, and everyone in the office has done lots and lots of research. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
I'm pleased with how well it has come out, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
and considering the pure amount of people | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
that was on the tree originally, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
I am pleased with how much we managed to do in such a short space of time. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
A few weeks later, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
and Neil has heard news on the final value of Ralph's estate, and it is | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
even better than that £160,000 he had originally estimated. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:01 | |
In the last three weeks a claim has been | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
accepted by the Treasury Solicitor, that claim has been | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
valued at £270,000, approximately twice the value I thought it was. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
Jo, who has been managing this case, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
it's one of the first cases that she has really properly managed, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
and to have a case with this many beneficiaries handled | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
in this way, with such speed, is really quite incredible, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
and I'm very proud of what she's done. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
In Liverpool, Saul Marks of heir hunting firm, Celtic Research, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
was trying to find beneficiaries to | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
the £18,000 estate of Arthur Thorne. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
He died in London in 2003, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
and had been a well loved figure in his local church. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
I think I would like Arthur to be remembered for what he was, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
which was a nice, self-contained, very polite person. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
I remember him as being very formal, always shaking hands, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
saying, "Good morning." | 0:35:57 | 0:35:58 | |
It would be nice if Arthur could be remembered by his memory | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
at least being reunited with his relatives that are still alive. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
One of those relatives is Christina Morrison, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
whose father Frederick was Arthur's older brother. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
She remembers her uncle as a talented musician who had | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
an exciting working life. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
Arthur was always known to the family as Archie. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
He was a very handsome, dapper man. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
Worked in Harrods and he was musical and played the piano. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:32 | |
Pauline Rainsford is another of Arthur's nieces. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
When she got the call from the heir hunters about her uncle, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
it was a name she hadn't heard for a very long time. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
I didn't know that Uncle Archie had died, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
though I thought he must've done. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
So, when somebody got in touch with me | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
it came as a bolt out of the blue. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
The fact that Archie was alive in 2003 is crazy, because we could | 0:36:53 | 0:37:00 | |
have all enjoyed each other's company, he would have, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
he might not have enjoyed us so much, but we would have liked | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
to have seen him, as we would with any of our other family. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
It has made me think back to my Uncle Archie, it has made me | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
think back to my childhood, and I wish I knew more about him. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
I have fond memories of him, he took me to places I would never | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
have gone in my early years, he was delightful, he was delightful, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:31 | |
and I would hope other people had the same memories of him. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
Heir hunter, Saul Marks, discovered that Arthur was one of six | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
brothers, all of whom had died before him. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
Four of these brothers had married and had children, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
and these were all heirs to Arthur's estimated £18,000 estate. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
The heirs I spoke to on this case all remembered their Uncle Archie | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
quite well, he was a popular figure from their childhood, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
but they had all lost touch with him over many, many years, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
so none of them were aware that he had actually passed away. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
And it wasn't just Arthur that the Thorne family had lost touch with. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
Because of the threat to the capital city during the Second World War, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
some of the family had gone from West London to the West Country | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
and never returned. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
Consequently, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:15 | |
the next generation of Thornes knew virtually nothing about one another. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
Often, families found it very difficult to reunite after | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
the war, because over that long period of time people do change, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
and they adapt, and they evolve, especially children, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
so, often children would have gone away at nine and they came back at | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
14, 15, they were now young adults, they were almost unrecognisable, they | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
would certainly have evolved and changed from the people they were. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
For the Thorne family, the heir hunters investigating their | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Uncle Arthur's estate has opened up a whole new world. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
I think we're all very excited to know that we have got cousins, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
I'd like to learn a bit more about their dads, our uncles, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
and I think it would be just fun to see them. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:09 | |
Today, Christina is travelling from Somerset | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
and Pauline from Sussex to the home of their cousin, Nell, in Shepperton. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
Nell is the eldest of the three cousins. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
A bit nervous. Yes. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
It will be quite an experience, it will be nice to see them. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
These three ladies have never been in a room together before. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
I'm feeling very excited, and looking forward very much to | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
seeing my cousins, and I hope they are looking forward to seeing me. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
I am very curious to find out about my father's past life | 0:39:40 | 0:39:47 | |
and his brothers, because although I knew they existed | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
they seemed to have stretched to the four corners of the country. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
-Hello! -Hello, Nell! | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
-Hello, darling! -Long time no see. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
Nell and Pauline have not seen each other for more than 30 years, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
and Christina has never met either of her cousins. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
Hello. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:11 | |
-Hello. -Are you Christina? -I'm Chris. And you are Nell. -Yes. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
I haven't seen you before, have I, darling? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
No, you haven't, it's lovely to meet you. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:19 | |
-It's very kind of you to come. -Hello. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
-Hello, how are you? -I'm very well, and you? -Lovely to meet you. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
You are a complete stranger. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
Here we are, Nell, here's a little something for you. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
-That's very kind of you. -And a little something for you. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
Oh, my goodness, how kind of you! That's lovely! | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
I can't take my eyes off you! | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
Over a cup of tea, the ladies soon settle down to swapping | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
stories about their long-lost uncle. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
Do you know anything about Uncle Arthur? | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
He was always Uncle Archie. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Yes, we only ever heard him as Archie. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
He was a brilliant guy, really nice. Really kind. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
But it's the photographs they've brought along to share that | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
really bring the family stories to life. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
So, this is our grandmother with her six boys. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
That's Archie, Fred, we think Tom, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
Harry, and my dad, Ted. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
My dad adored his mum and he was absolutely heart- broken | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
when she died. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
And even though they have not shared the last few | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
decades of their lives, it seems they have an awful lot in common. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
This one, of Uncle Fred, now, my brother has got this up on his wall. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:36 | |
-Crazy! -He treasures it. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
And didn't he win the Army heavyweight boxing title? | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
When he won that, my mum and dad were at the Albert Hall. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
My mum got so excited, the man sitting in front of her, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
she banged her hands down and squashed his bowler hat! | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
With this unique opportunity to meet up and share family history, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
the cousins can't help but return to talking about the person who | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
brought them all together. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
There's Archie. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
-Did you hear that he worked in Harrods? -Yes. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
-And also he was a very good pianist? -I just remember the voice. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
It was my dad's funeral. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
I knew he could sing, but in the church where you get this | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
echoing and everything, oh, it was so beautiful, it made me cry. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
After such an enlightening day, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
the cousins feel pleased with all they can take away from their meeting. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
I was very, very happy to see everybody and it was | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
so lovely to meet Christina. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
I haven't met Pauline for about 30 years, I think it is. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
It's been great fun, and maybe we will meet up in the future, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
who knows? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:43 | |
I think Archie's got a lot to answer for and I think he's a lovely, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
lovely man for bringing us all together. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
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