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Heir hunters specialise in tracing people who are entitled to money from someone who has died. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
If we don't do the work, then it's money which is going to go to the Government. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Often, solving the puzzle means delving back decades into a family's history. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
We had a little bit of success there. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
So he seems to be the right person. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
The research can be complex and frustrating. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
What the hell is going on here?! | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
But it can solve family mysteries... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Absolutely no idea about any of that at all. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
..and help bring people together. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
I think it would be nice if we could all try and meet or phone each other. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
But most of all, it's about giving news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking on your door? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
Coming up... The heir hunters have to play catch-up after misreading a valuable document. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Just realised through looking online that there are some more children. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
A global search to return artwork stolen more than 70 years ago. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
Many items weren't reunited with their rightful owners at the end of the war | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
because they had already been circulated onto the international art market. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates held by the Treasury. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:21 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
It's Thursday morning and heir-hunting company Fraser & Fraser | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
are busy working several potential cases | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
of names published on the Treasury solicitors' bona vacantia list. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
I represent a company of probate researchers here in central London... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
We specialise in tracing missing heirs and beneficiaries. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
But they're also working another case that has been advertised in the newspaper - | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
an appeal for relatives of a man called Arnold Holt | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
who died in September 2011. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
The deceased is Arnold Holt. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
Arnold Holt was born at home in the Tottington area of Bury | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
two days before Christmas 1935. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
He lived nearly all his life in the pretty cottage with a rose garden at the front | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
and only in later life did he and his wife Edna move to nearby accommodation | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
in an extended care scheme. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
Manager Anne McGuinness knew the couple well. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Oh, description of Arnold! | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Small, jolly... | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
er, glasses, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
a smile that would just lighten up the room. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
When I came here, Arnold was actually living with his wife, Edna. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
And they actually lived in a bungalow just outside of the complex. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
He was actually Edna's main carer at the time. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
Both Edna and Arnold as a couple, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
quite a dynamic pair together, really. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
A lovable couple. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
Both had totally different characteristics. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Edna was the strong character, was the boss. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
And Arnold basically did as he was told, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
whether it was the right thing or wrong thing, Arnold did as he was told. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
Edna was 11 years older than Arnold, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
and when she died in 2007, Arnold, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
the devoted husband, was devastated. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
Arnold, without Edna, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
for quite some time was very much like he'd lost his right hand. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
Lost all his purpose, really, of going out. Didn't have a need. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
He would sit down in the lounge a lot and chat. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Very much again around where he used to holiday with Edna, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
and they loved Blackpool and Fleetwood. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
We arranged a holiday for him at Blackpool and it brought back a lot of memories for him. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:50 | |
He used to get very tearful a lot. Very emotional man. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
In the office, the team is working flat out looking for Arnold's family. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
I've been informed by one of your neighbours | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
that you may have known a person we're interesting in finding out a bit more about. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
Because this case has come from a newspaper advert, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
the team have slightly more information than normal. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
The know Arnold's birth date and the value of the case - around £22,000. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
They work on commission, and research can be expensive, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
so boss Neil will want to solve this case quickly, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
especially as there may be up to 40 rival heir-hunting firms hot on their heels. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
We wouldn't really work many cases much smaller than this, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
so we have to be very careful we don't put a huge amount of resource into solving it. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
The investigation is headed by case managers Dom Hendry and Mike Pow. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
The first thing the researchers have to do | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
is to find the birth records of the right Arnold Holt, in 1936. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
But there are several possibilities. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
An Arnold Holt born that day. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
You look it up. There's no births in December '35. There's two in March '36. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
One's an Arnold R and one's an Arnold S. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Looked up Arnold R in 2000 on the Electoral Register, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-living with an Edna M. It gives us the exact same date of birth as the advert. -Yeah. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
He dies, no issue. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Once the team confirmed Arnold's birth date, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
they could trace his marriage to Edna Quinton in 1971. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
But they could find no children from this marriage. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
So Dom, Mike and the team will have to build up a picture of Arnold's parents, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
any other children they had, or aunts and uncles of Arnold's, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
because it's their living relatives who will be beneficiaries to Arnold's estate. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
Just got the marriage of the deceased's parents. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Arnold's parents were Frances Brier and George Holt | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
and they married in 1920. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
The witnesses to the marriage were Arnold's maternal and paternal grandfathers, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
which helped the team trace the family back another generation. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
His father's given as Matthew. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
The certificate also details George's job. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
He was working as a calico printer's assistant in Bury, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
in the heart of cotton manufacturing. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Calico is a cotton cloth, and in the 19th century, and first half of the 20th century, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
the textile industry was booming in the north of England. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Jim Kidd has been a senior manager in the industry for 35 years. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
The industry employed literally hundreds of thousands of people, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
typically in the north of England. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
There were whole towns that just thrived on the textile industry. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
Every community within the town would have been involved somewhere within textiles, whether it be weaving, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:40 | |
whether it be dyeing, finishing, printing. Textile was just massive. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:46 | |
George was working here in the 1920s, in his early 20s, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
and he was responsible for preparing machinery for the printer | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
before the calico was fed through. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
It was a young man's job, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
because shifting tools and machinery was hard work. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
In those days, there were no sort of manual handling regulations like we have today. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
Everything was just done physically. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Cloth was pushed, colour was dragged, lifted onto trucks. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
And by the time Arnold was born in 1935, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
George's occupation, recorded on Arnold's birth certificate, was a calendar man - | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
a role which ensured the fabric had been given that all-important finishing touch. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:29 | |
And the object of a calendar | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
is to put a sort of finish onto the actual fabric. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
It applies pressure onto the fabric, and it ends up with a nice sheen. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
And that would have been George's job, to actually sort of just run the calendar. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
I think maybe as George got older, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
he's said, "I want something a bit less intensive." | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
And it seems the Holt family stayed true to the textile industry, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
and it rewarded them with job security and romance to boot. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
I understand met his wife in a textile factory in the north of England. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:03 | |
And George's son coming into the industry was certainly not uncommon. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
I mean, in those days, whole families would be involved in working for the same company. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
And all this was great when the industry was booming, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
this was fantastic, because it creates employment for the whole of the family, or families. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
Back in the office, research is well underway on George and Frances's marriage. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
The team have found that they had two children - | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
Arnold and his sister, Alice, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
who died in 2000. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Although Alice married twice, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
she, like her brother Arnold, never had any children. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
So the next step is to research Arnold's grandfathers, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
named on his parents' marriage certificate, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
to see if they had any other children. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Firstly, Aisha researches the paternal side, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
but soon enough, she's worked out what's happened to them. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Oh! Oh, Dominic. Yeah, it's right. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
The paternal side's right. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Cos his dad's Matthew. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
-So it's dead? -So it's dead. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
-High five for Aisha. -Yeah! | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Come on! | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
It looks like George is the only surviving stem on this side of the family, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
which, obviously, is the deceased's family, so, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
therefore it looks like everyone on this side of the family has died. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
This is bad news. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
The paternal side of the family have died out, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
which means the team can now only work the maternal side. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
They're several hours in, and their chances of finding heirs | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
are reducing by the minute. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Now the office have to plough all their energies into the maternal side of the tree, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
through Arnold's mother, Frances Brier. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Her father is James Brier. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
And Frances is his mother. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
By looking on the 1901 census, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
the team have found Frances Brier | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
living with her parents and five siblings, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
all stems of the family that will need researching | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and could produce heirs. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Frances's five siblings were Arnold, James, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Ernest, Ethel and Leonard, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
and two more siblings who died in infancy. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Researcher Aisha is working on one of the sisters. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
I'm looking for Ethel Brier, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
but I can't seem to find a death for her. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
So I'm going to check all records and see if anything comes up. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
And case manager Dom passes another one of the siblings to researcher Emma for her to work up. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:27 | |
Everything on this stem I'm sceptical about, so could you have another look, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
see if there's any better marriages for James, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
any better marriages for Joan, work them up and see if we can disprove them. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-All right? -Mm-hm. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
But hours into the research on this case, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Aisha realises the team could have made a very costly mistake. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
What the hell is going on here?! | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down relatives | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
of people who have died without leaving a will. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Often what's left behind is property or cash, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
but sometimes heirs can find themselves inheriting rather unusual assets. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
And this was the case when London-based Hector Birchwood, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
co-owner of heir-hunting firm Celtic Research, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
began tracing relatives of Jehudo Epstein, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
a Jewish artist who had died in 1945. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
Well, initially my agent in Vienna called me | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
to tell me that he believed there would be a family that would be entitled | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
to some paintings by an artist from Vienna, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
whose name was Jehudo Epstein. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
He asked me to see if I could trace them. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
We had some clues in South Africa | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
and he believed they may have had descendants who emigrated to the United Kingdom. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
The search for heirs to these paintings would reveal an astonishing story | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
of wartime theft on an industrial scale. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
The case centres around Jehudo Epstein, a successful artist in the first half of the last century. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
Jehudo was described as a kindly man, a sage man. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
We don't know a tremendous amount about him. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
He was trained in the academic way of painting and he looked rather academic, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
in a three-piece suit. He was balding, he was a small man, but he was also said | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
to be very good-humoured, very kind and very intelligent. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
Jehudo was born in Minsk in 1870. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
He had a very stable Jewish childhood. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
The area was very poor | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
and there was quite a lot of anti-Semitism against Jews at the time. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
However, it was a coherent, cohesive community | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
and he remembered particularly | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
the enjoyable Friday night suppers. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
But by the time Jehudo was 20, he had moved from his native Belarus | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
and was living in Austria, studying at the Vienna Academy of Fine Art. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
It would have been very prestigious for him to enter the Academy. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
It was highly regarded | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
and not only did he prosper in terms of the teaching he absorbed, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
but he was later to be honoured by the Academy with a professorship. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
And Jehudo took inspiration from memories of his earlier years | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
growing up in Belarus. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
He focused on Eastern European Jewish life, and his paintings were informed | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
by the memories he brought with him of his childhood in Minsk - | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
the ceremonies he'd observed and the closeness of the Jewish population. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
All of this fed into the painting that he did when he was in Vienna. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
And it was very important, perhaps, for him to be able to recreate that life | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
in his paintings, as it was the life he'd left behind. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
And it was the Vienna Academy, where Jehudo had been a student, who first | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
raised the question of whether they may still hold one of his works, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
which rightfully belonged to his family. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
The painting is an unnamed painting of a blonde girl, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
painted by Jehudo Epstein back in 1921. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
It appears that the painting was given as a gesture by an art dealer. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
But the Academy suspected that before it was given to them, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
the painting may have been stolen and now they wanted it to go back to Jehudo's family. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
An article in a local paper was spotted by Hector's agent, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
and intrigued by the challenge of finding heirs to an artwork, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
Hector decided to trace Jehudo's relatives. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
We have to prove the provenance of a particular artwork, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
as well as the family relationship. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
And unlike a public administrator case, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
the assets are not held in one place. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
They may be dispersed, not just within one country, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
not just within a single set of galleries. They may be dispersed | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
all over the world and held by very many different people, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
many of which may have perhaps bought the painting or accepted the painting | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
as a gift without knowing that the painting was actually stolen. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Nonetheless, Hector began the task of building up Jehudo's family tree. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
He was able to establish that Jehudo had been married to Augusta, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
but they never had children, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
which meant he would have to look to the wider family tree | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
to find heirs. And so he began to look for details | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
of Jehudo's parents. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Jehudo Epstein was the son of Jacob Epstein. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
He had a sister, Francesca Esther. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Esther, like her brother Jehudo, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
had moved from their native Belarus to live in Vienna. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
And there, it seemed she had married and had a son called Hans. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
But by the late 1930s, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
Austria was becoming an increasingly dangerous place for Jews like Esther and her brother Jehudo. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
Life would have been very difficult for Jehudo and artists like him | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
in Vienna. As Jews, they could be stripped of the professorships, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
forbidden to work, unable to sell their paintings, so basically, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
unable to make a living. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Jews were actively persecuted. This persecution | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
ratcheted up throughout the '30s, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
culminating in the annexation of Austria in 1938, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
after which, many Jews were sent to concentration camps. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:33 | |
So life would have become impossible by 1938, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
and it's likely that Jehudo actually left before that. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
Jehudo, who had made Vienna his home for 40 years, fled to South Africa. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:46 | |
Perhaps in choosing South Africa, he chose a country out of Europe, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:52 | |
which would, hopefully, not be so affected | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
by the spreading world war. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Jehudo decided to place his art collection in safe hands, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
and entrusted his Jewish friend, Bernard Altman, to keep hold of it in Vienna. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
But when Austria was annexed by Hitler in 1938, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
Bernard's businesses and all his assets were seized by the Nazis, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
and Jehudo's paintings, stored at one of his factories, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
were looted along with everything else. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
The Commission for Looted Art in Europe was set up to research, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
trace and return art stolen by the Nazis in 1930s and '40s. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
I think the looting of art was part of the process that the Nazis | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
established in 1933, when they came to power. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Which was that they started first of all | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
by stripping the Jews of their professions, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
and it moved on to stripping them of their possessions, and then | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
ultimately of their lives. So it was a tripartite process, if you like. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
The Nazis said, "OK, we'll give the museums first right | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
"to the best works, after we - the Nazi leaders - have taken what we want" | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
because Hitler and Goering were building up their collections. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
The very best of these paintings were photographed and they were sent | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
to Hitler in bound albums, so he could take his pick | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
of the best of the world's art. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
He and Goering vied as to who would get the best paintings. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
And even art that the Nazi regime did not rate was useful to them. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
They had very clear ideas of what they thought was good art and bad art, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
and art that was desirable and art that was undesirable. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
So what they would do was, in order to obtain the works of art that they loved, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
which were Old Master paintings, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
they would set up these exchanges through swaps through Switzerland. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
Goering was generally in charge of them. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
So they would exchange perhaps 20 Impressionist paintings, three Van Goghs, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
two Cezannes, four Renoirs, and so on, for one Old Master painting. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
And Switzerland acted as the kind of entrepot for this, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
the launder, the place where you could launder the art. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
It's impossible to put an exact figure on how many pieces of artwork | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
were plundered by the Nazis. The Commission has reunited families | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
with 4,000 pieces during the past decade. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
But there are many tens of thousands more missing items scattered across the world. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
Many items weren't reunited with their rightful owners at the end of the war, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
because they had already been circulated | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
onto the international art market. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
If things had been auctioned, as many were, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
then it was very hard to go and find out | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
who it was who'd bought it at that auction. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Also, remember that you're in a post-war period | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
where there's still a lot of very unpleasant feeling about. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
The denazification process which went on took an awful long time, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
and it wasn't a very easy prospect for anybody without any resources. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
Remember that everything had been taken from them. They had nothing to... | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
They had to start their lives all over again, these people. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
So having learned that Jehudo had fled to South Africa, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Hector began his search there to see if his sister Esther and her son Hans | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
might have followed him to this country. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
He couldn't find them in South Africa, but eventually tracked Hans down in Britain. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
But then Hector faced a new challenge. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
When you're dealing with Jewish genealogy, you always have to be mindful of the fact | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
that people adopt different names at different stages of their lives, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:28 | |
so you may have a religious name being used, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
you may have a secular, Gentile name being used. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Sometimes there'll be anglicised names. So, in this case, um... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
Hans became Harry. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
But what had become of Harry? Hector had to trace his family | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
in the hope that it might lead him to Jehudo's descendants - | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
the rightful owners of his paintings. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
And as Jehudo's family were traced, there were fascinating details | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
for them to learn and discover. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
Absolutely no idea about any of that at all. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Heir hunters track down thousands of rightful beneficiaries every year. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
But not all cases can be cracked. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
There are thousands of estates on the Treasury's unclaimed list that have eluded the heir hunters | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
and remain unsolved. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
To claim an estate of someone who's died intestate, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
you need to trace your relationship in a direct line | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
from the deceased person's grandparents. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
They need to supply us with certificates of birth, death and marriage, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
and identity documents as well. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Today we're focusing on two cases which still have to be solved. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Could you be the beneficiary they've been looking for? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Could you be about to inherit some money from a long-lost relative? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
First is the case of Brian Gordon Scriven, who died in Haywards Heath | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
in West Sussex on the 19th of August 1997. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Researchers have worked hard on this case, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
but have not been able to establish much about Brian. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Are you Brian's relative? Or perhaps you were a friend or neighbour | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
living in Haywards Heath in 1997? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Do you have any information that might solve this case? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Next, can you shed any light on the case of Joseph Dougan, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
who died on the 26th of January 2006? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
His last address was Titwood Road in Glasgow. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Because Joseph died in Scotland, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
his name has been published | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
on the Queen and Lord Treasurer's Remembrancer list. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
And unlike the bona vacantia list, which publishes names of people | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
who have died intestate in England and Wales, the QLTR does publish | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
the value of estates. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
So the list reveals Joseph's estate is worth... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
Do you have any information that could help crack this case? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Both Brian and Joseph's estates remain unclaimed, and if no-one | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
comes forward, their money will go to the Government. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
When considering a claim for an estate, it's very important | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
that the person puts forward a very good case. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
And it's all based on the evidence. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
What we need are the birth, death and marriage certificates, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
perhaps something on adoption. Then we consider the evidence very carefully. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
Do you have any clues | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
that could help solve the cases of Brian Gordon Scriven | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
and Joseph Dougan? If so, you could have a fortune coming your way. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
At heir-hunting firm Fraser & Fraser, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
the team is looking into the case of Arnold Holt, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
a retired factory worker who died in Bury in 2011. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
The team has already established that Arnold left around £20,000. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
That's not a big-value case for the company, who work on commission. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
And because they're competing against up to 40 rival firms, the team has to act quickly. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
I'm quite excited. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
Arnold spent the last few years of his life living in an extended care scheme, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
where he was able to live independently, but with the added bonus | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
of 24-hour support if he needed it. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
Manager of the home Anne McGuinness remembers Arnold as a sprightly resident. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Oh, gosh, you couldn't stop Arnold. Arnold would be | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
the first to get up dancing. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Arnold would be the first, if it was dressing-up, to dress up. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
His thespian qualities used to come out a lot then! | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
He would dance with staff. Every day, first visit in the morning, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
"You won't forget me today? I'll come in the lounge in the afternoon, won't I?" | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
"Yes, you will, Arnold." | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
But in the last few months of his life, Arnold's health deteriorated, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
and he had to leave his home to receive round-the-clock medical care. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
He did not want to leave. Cos he saw this as his home. And he also saw us | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
as his family, basically. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
I think my lasting memories of Arnold will be... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
There'll be shoes that'll never be filled here, with Arnold's characteristics. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:18 | |
He was a large character, but such a humble character, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
and a very polite, lovable gentleman. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Yeah, and he is missed every day here. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
In London, the team are focusing on Arnold's mother, Frances Brier, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
because they've worked out there are no living family on Arnold's father's side. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Using census records, the team has already established | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
that Frances had five siblings - | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
Arnold, James, Ernest, Ethel and Leonard - | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
and two more siblings who died in infancy. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
But just as they think they've found all of Frances's siblings, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
it dawns on Aisha that they've made a big mistake. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Just realised through looking online that there's some more children. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-Was Annie the other one I was missing? -Yeah. -Is she the only other one? | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Frances Brier had two more siblings - | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
a brother, Royston, and a sister, Annie. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Now the team has to start searching for them, because if they | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
had children, their living descendants will be beneficiaries | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
to Arnold's estate. But Royston in particular is proving very tricky | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
to pin down. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
There's two Royston Briers, both born on the 29th of December, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
one in 1885 and one in 1886. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
But the baptism date... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
One's in 1886 and one's in 1891 - | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
same parents but it's got a different address | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
and different job for the father. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
So it's definitely not duplicated. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
It's a different copy. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
So, whether or not they forgot they baptised him and baptised him again, I don't know! | 0:26:56 | 0:27:02 | |
It's just... It's probably a red herring, but we'll have to have | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
a look anyway, see what we can find. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
This just doesn't make sense. Why would Royston's parents baptise him twice? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
Mike and Aisha try and find Royston and his father on the 1891 census. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
They want to match the father's occupation | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
with the one recorded on the baptism, to prove that they have the right family. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
-Here we go. -What's his occupation then? -He's only five, Michael! | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
-No, the dad. -Oh. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
He's a joiner, and a labourer, and a porter. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
He gets around! | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
Bit of everything - a jack of all trades. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Work-wise, it seems James Brier | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
did a bit of everything, so this route hasn't helped them. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
But as they have found Royston on the 1891 census with his family, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
at least they've proved he was one of Arnold's uncles. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
Royston is on the 1891 census, so he is real. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Experienced senior research Alan Riches is now searching | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
for Royston's sister, Annie. He thinks he may have got to the bottom of the mystery. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
She's born as Hannah. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
It turns out she wasn't an Annie after all. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
Right, Annie Brier was on the 1891 census in Halifax. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
I then did a death of all Briers | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
in Halifax only for a ten-year period, between 1891 and 1901. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Then I went through them all, looking to see if anything could be her, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
because she might have changed her name a little bit. And that's actually what she did do. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
Annie became Hannah. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
I found a death for her in April 1891 in Halifax. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
Realising Annie's stem died out means there's still no heirs traced | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
on this case, and the odds of finding one are diminishing all the time. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
But Dom is hopeful that Arnold's uncle, James Brier, might have | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
married and had children. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
I have got a marriage in 1920 to an Annie Cunliffe. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
The son dies infant. The daughter, Joan Brier, of that marriage, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
was born December 1922 | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
in Halifax. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Now, simply because of those deaths, I went with a marriage in 1961 | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
to a Matthew Shields. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Finally, there's a stem of the family | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
that seems to have produced heirs. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
James's daughter Joan married Matthew | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
and they had three children of their own, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
who are entitled to Arnold's estate. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
And as they research Ernest's stem, they find more living beneficiaries. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
Ernest married Beatrice in 1920 and they had four children. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
One of their grandchildren is Janice Freeman, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
and she's entitled to a share of Arnold's estate as well. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
It was a real shock to find out that Arnold had died | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
and that I could be an heir. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
Well, I know he used to play the piano, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
because when we used to go for tea, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
he used to sit and play the piano. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
I remember him having dark hair. But he probably was a very quiet man. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
Janice remembers that Arnold and his mother were a tight-knit family. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
He used to show cine films of when Auntie Frances and him went on holiday, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
and we used to have projector little shows. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
But I remember it was really fascinating to watch these moving pictures on this projector. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
It was fantastic. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Any money Janice may inherit from Arnold will be used to keep his memory alive. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
I think I'll probably buy a piece of jewellery. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Rather than fritter it away on something, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
then that's something that could be passed down | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
to my daughters. It's sort of a link, then, to the older end of the family for them. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:47 | |
With the help of the heirs they've spoken to, the company eventually | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
manage to trace and sign up seven heirs to Arnold's estate. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Although for now the elusive missing Uncle Royston has proved to be too difficult a puzzle to solve. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:06 | |
But in the following days, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
senior researcher Roger has the most extraordinary piece of luck, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
thanks to the diligence of an unknown official filling out a census nearly 100 years ago. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
I couldn't find anything on Royston. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
So I went back to looking at his mum and dad and trying to find, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:31 | |
um...trying to find the census. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
And on one of the censuses for Frances, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
his mother, it said "see notes". | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
So I looked up the notes. There was a massive McDanielson family history, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
with lots of clues on it, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
one being that, yes, he had a son called Royston, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
born 1884, which we knew about. Then it also said in the small print that | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
"Royston Brier may be the same individual found on the 1920 and '30 | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
"US census records under the name James Royston McDanielson," | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
which was the maiden name. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
So the mystery is solved. Royston was hard to track down | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
because not only did he change his name, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
but he emigrated to America in the early part of the last century. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
The team has been trying to gather as much information as they can about him. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
He died in 1942 in Galveston, Texas, USA. We've attempted to try and get | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
his death certificate, which is proving a bit of a difficulty, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
because, erm...American states are notoriously difficult for trying | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
to get any vital records out of them. You usually have to be a family member | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
or a solicitor. So we're still attempting to get that certificate, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
in the hope that it may have an informant or a bit more family information. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
We've still got a couple of heirs outstanding. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
I think there are three we're still chasing up at the moment. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Hopefully we should get their signatures within the next few weeks. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
At heir-hunting firm Celtic Research, Hector Birchwood had been working on a case | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
where he'd been trying to track down relatives | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
who were entitled not to money, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
but a painting by an artist called Jehudo Epstein. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
And it seemed the search would spread far and wide. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
This case has a number of interesting facets to it, in that the family left | 0:33:22 | 0:33:28 | |
before the genocide began in Nazi-occupied Europe. So it does have | 0:33:28 | 0:33:35 | |
a different aspect from most of the Jewish cases that we normally deal with. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
The case arrived on Hector's desk after an academy in Austria | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
became concerned that an Epstein painting in their gallery | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
may have been plundered by the Nazis during the war. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
It appears that the painting was given as a gesture by an art dealer | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
to the university back in 1987. And they seemed to be very happy about | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
the painting going to its rightful owner. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Jehudo Epstein was born in Belarus, but became a painter, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
making a successful living after moving to Vienna in the first half of the last century. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:16 | |
But in the 1930s, when life became very difficult for Jews living in Austria, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
Jehudo emigrated to South Africa. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
It must have been a tremendous wrench for Jehudo to leave behind the city | 0:34:23 | 0:34:28 | |
where he'd lived for so long. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
He'd come there as a boy of 18, and he was | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
about 65 when he left, so his entire mature life had been spent | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
in the city. He'd done well there. He'd built up a reputation, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:43 | |
a body of work, no doubt friends. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
And all of this he would have had to have left behind | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
when he went to South Africa. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
Because Jehudo was forced to flee, he had no choice but to leave | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
his artwork with his good friend Bernard Altman, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
who stored them in one of his Austrian-based factories. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
But this would not be the safe place that Jehudo had thought it could be. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
It's not surprising that Jehudo's collection was seized by the Nazis, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
because this was very common at the time, particularly after | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
the Anschluss, or annexation of Austria, in 1938, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
when Aryanisation laws were brought in. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Which meant that property was taken over by the National Socialists | 0:35:21 | 0:35:29 | |
and many people found not just paintings but businesses | 0:35:29 | 0:35:35 | |
and homes were lost. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Hector was trying to trace living descendants of Jehudo, in the hope | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
of connecting them with the Academy in Vienna, who suspected | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
the painting had been stolen by the Nazis. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
After searching through records, Hector had already discovered that | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Jehudo had had a sibling who had died. But he hoped this discovery | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
would lead him to living relatives. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
He had a sister, Esther Epstein, who then married Isaac Alexander Cemach. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:10 | |
They had one son, Harry, otherwise Hans Cemach. And then he came to England | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
and married. We were then able to find his two children | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
from that marriage. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
Once Hector had realised that Hans had become Harry and married Ruth Stein, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:27 | |
he discovered they'd had two daughters, both of whom were still alive. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
One of them was Anne Starkey, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
and she and her sister were Jehudo's only living relatives. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
I got a call to say they'd discovered some oil paintings done | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
by my great-uncle in Vienna, which were put in safekeeping when | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
the Nazis invaded. They'd done some research and found out that | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
my sister and I were the only two heirs, as far as we know, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
and would we be interested in trying to recoup the pictures? | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
I'm feeling excited. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
My sister's feeling excited. Purely because of the fact that we'll learn | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
more about our family history. Hopefully we will. We'll find out | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
things that we didn't know. And hopefully, it's going to be really, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
really interesting. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Now that Hector has traced Anne and her sister, the family are keen | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
to find out if there are any other missing paintings by Jehudo. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
News of her connection to Jehudo Epstein has piqued Anne's interest | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
in this part of her family. Since hearing from Hector, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
she's got in touch with art collector David Glasser, who is an expert on Jewish art. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
And today, she's come to see him to learn more. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
-Thank you. -How are you? -I'm fine. I'm hear to find out about my great-uncle, Jehudo Epstein. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
Your great-uncle was a very distinguished artist. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
And he painted particularly portraiture. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
He painted the scenes | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
that he remembered around him from his youth, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
which was Jewish shtetl, Jewish village life. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
But once he became more emancipated in Vienna, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
he also developed that portraiture to become a portraitist, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
and that's how he earned his living. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
He would paint important members of society. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
This was his means of making a living, and in a very distinguished manner too. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
David is able to give some background on Jehudo's decision to leave Vienna. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
1935, the infamous Nuremberg Laws were passed. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
And that essentially | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
would strip Professor Epstein of his title and his position. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Nobody will employ him, nobody will give him exhibitions. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Where does he go? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
For those Jews who saw and realised that, actually, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
this is potentially fatal, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
as of course it ended up, the issue was getting out. Where do they go? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
Well, Jews went into Europe. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
So, for example, many Jews from Austria would go to Poland | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
or go to Czechoslovakia. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
But other Jews realised that, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
actually, Germany was in an expansive mood, nobody was going to stop them, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
and they weren't safe in Europe. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
They will go as far away from Hitler as possible. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
America, South America, China, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
the Far East, and South Africa. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Anne wants to know about Bernard Altman, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
the man with whom Jehudo entrusted his paintings. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
His name keeps coming up, and I didn't know whether perhaps he was | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
somebody in the art world, or... | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
Not as far as we know. As you say, Altman comes up in the story, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
and therefore we've taken note of his role in all this, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
and for sure, we think he's a completely innocent party, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
because ultimately, the Nazis actually closed him down, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
as far as we understand, and took his belongings. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
Then the question is, what happened to the artwork? Because remember, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
the Nazis were not collecting works | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
by Jehudo Epstein or by Jewish artists. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
But they wouldn't destroy them, particularly, | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
because there was money in it. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
-Yeah. -And remember, this was simply business. It was a money-making exercise. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
-Yeah. -So these works would have been, in all likelihood, sold. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
It's not known if Jehudo's wife, Augusta, went to South Africa | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
with him. But David is able to shed some light | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
on what she did after Jehudo passed away. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
When your great-uncle died in 1945, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
-he was cremated in the Jewish cemetery. -In South Africa? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
-In Johannesburg. -Oh, right. -But his wife | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
-brought back his ashes to Vienna in 1948, I think. -Right. -Maybe 1949. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:35 | |
-So, at some point she must have been in South Africa. -Right. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
And maybe she did go to bring back his ashes. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
And his ashes are now buried in the Jewish cemetery in Vienna. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
I had absolutely no idea about any of that at all. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
So that's been a revelation. It's been really, really interesting. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
And there's another very special reason | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
why Anne has been invited to see David today. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
I bought it because, A - I wanted a painting by Jehudo Epstein | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
for my collection and B - I thought this was a particularly fine example. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
-This was certainly done 1915 or before. -Really? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
So it's right in mid-life, right in the peak of his career, OK? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
He was already a professor. And you can already see, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
if you look at the colour palette, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
-it's no longer dark. He introduces white. -Yes. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
And shades of white. And captures that moment wonderfully well. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
And what I want to say to you is...that if this painting is on a list, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
and it is your property, then you will have it back. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
Right. OK, thank you. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:43 | |
-Absolutely 100% guaranteed. -Thank you. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
And David has one more surprise for Anne - a copy of Jehudo's memoirs, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
written in 1929. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
It's in absolutely immaculate condition. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
-It's called Mein Weg Von Ost Nach West. -My Journey From North To West. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
My Journey From North To West. And this is absolutely perfect condition, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
and I'd like to give this to you as a memento of the occasion. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
And I hope that when you come back to me and say, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
-"David, the picture's not on my list" then you will accept the book with my pleasure. -Thank you! | 0:42:14 | 0:42:20 | |
And if I have to give you the picture too, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
-then maybe you might give me the book back. -Deal. -A deal? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
-Thank you very much. -My pleasure. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
Although David has given Anne some answers, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
it's clear she has only just begun her journey of discovery. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
I'm just absolutely amazed | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
that we now can find out about this. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
I know very, very little about the man himself, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
and this is what's going to make it so interesting, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
to find out all about him. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:48 | |
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