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Heir hunters trace the relatives of those who have died without leaving a will. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
Their work involves meticulous investigation. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
So, these kids could all be right, all be wrong or half and half. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
They hand over thousands of pounds to family members who had no | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
idea there were in line to inherit. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
Hi, Mr Fraser. Hi. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
They can give family members a whole new perspective on their past. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Knowing my grandma, Edith Holloway, had ten brothers | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
and sisters is just amazing. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
But, most of all, they tell people of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Today the pressure is on, as heir hunters work on a six figure estate. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
Why can't it be a nice easy job on a Monday afternoon? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
That would suit me nice. Oh no! It don't work like that! | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
An international hunt brings long lost relatives | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
together for the first time. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
-This is Tony, my brother. -Hello. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
held by the Treasury. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
Could a fortune be heading your way? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
It's Monday afternoon at the London offices of heir hunting | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
company Fraser And Fraser. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
-Boss Neil has just been tipped off about a new case. -John David Coates. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
He owns his own property. It is worth around about £175,000. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
It's a valuable estate and as it's a tip off, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
the team should have the case all to themselves. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
At least for now. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
We've got it certainly a few days before everyone else. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
It may be advertised this week or next week. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Once the Treasury Solicitor advertises the case, the team | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
will face competition from rival firms, so they need to work fast. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
Already, things are looking promising. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
I assume he didn't get married, did he? I wouldn't have thought. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
The team have quickly established that John didn't marry or | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
have children, so they must now look to his wider family to find heirs. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
John David Coates | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
died on 24 March 2012 in the Worcestershire Royal Hospital. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
He was 66 years old. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
No photos of John survive and, at the moment, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
little is known about him, other than he was a private man who | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
lived with his parents at this house in Worcestershire. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
In the office, case manager David Pacifico | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
and the team are beavering away and making good progress. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
What was the mother's maiden name? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
Having obtained John's death certificate, they have been | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
able to confirm his date of birth and check his birth record. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
They know his parents were Margaret Ethel Jackson | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
and Frederick Harold Coates. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
We've then got the parents' marriage | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
and the parents get married in Birmingham. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
As John died a bachelor and never had children, the team are searching | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
to see if he had any brothers or sisters who could be entitled. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
-See if you can identify that. Do a search on that. -Yeah. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Roger is searching birth records in areas where | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
they know the family lived. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Coates is not uncommon, and Jackson is very common. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Nothing seems to appear in the right kind of area. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
A lot of it is up in the air at the moment, until | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
we get some definite details back on research, hopefully tomorrow. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
With no sign of other siblings, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
it's beginning to look like John was an only child. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
So, instead, the team must concentrate on tracing John's | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
aunts and uncles, and their descendants. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
What we need to know is did the father have any brothers or sisters? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
If so, who are they, did they have children and so forth. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
And the same with the mother. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
The team have estimated that John's estate is worth around £175,000 and, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
as they'll be working for an agreed percentage of the estate, this | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
could be a lucrative case, but only if they can find and sign up heirs. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
Jackson is an awful name to research. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
There are thousands of them, hundreds of thousands of them | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
in the country, so that may be a bit tricky. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
It looks like the grand mother's maiden name, on that side as well, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
is Green, which means we are dealing with Jackson to marry a Green. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
There are going to be thousands of them, as well. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
It's going to be tricky working the mother's side. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
It looks like we should be concentrating on the father's side, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
and that's going to be where we find the first beneficiaries, really. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Unfortunately, though, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
it seems things aren't going to be that simple. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Right, what have you got? Have you turned this birth down? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-Harold, Frederick, Henry, anything? -No Henrys, no. -Well, just anything. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:44 | |
If that date is right, do it two years either side, at least. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
The team are struggling to find a birth record for John's father, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Cedric Harold Coates. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
Without this, they won't be able to search for any of John's | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
paternal aunts and uncles and it's a problem they need to solve fast. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
That can wait. This is urgent. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
Can you check for a birth on the mother's side, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Scotland, Ireland, anything else, for Frederick Harold Coates? | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Finally, it looks like they might have a breakthrough. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
What we've just found is a birth for Frederick Harold Coates, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
the father of the deceased. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-The birth is in Belfast. It's in 1915. -But there's a problem. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
Those records aren't the best records to research. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
They are certainly not available on computers | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
and the indexes aren't great, either. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
As certain records aren't available online, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
a lot of the work can only be done in Belfast. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
I was going to give it the somebody in Northern Ireland to try | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
and get that birth for me. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
I mean, there's no telling if there were any other siblings born in Northern Ireland. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
No, because I did Coates in Belfast ten years either side, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
and there were over 100. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
I'm going to have a word with somebody in Northern Ireland. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
Whilst David gets in touch with their Belfast based researchers, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
the London team need to try and keep things moving forward. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
-And he's not on any census? -No. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
I'm going to have a look because I did see a birth in West Derby in 1897. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
Play with it. We can't afford to wait on these things. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
With the threat of competition hanging over them, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
the team is under a lot of stress. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
I'm feeling pressure, yeah. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Why can't it be a nice easy job on a Monday afternoon? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
That would suit me nice. Oh, no! It don't work like that! | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
But until they get news from Belfast, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
there's little more they can do, so they call it a day. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
The question is, did he have any aunts and uncles. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Therefore, did he have any cousins? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
The answer to that I don't know, but hopefully I will know tomorrow. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
The following day, the team are back on the case and, at last, David | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
has information from Belfast about the paternal side of the family. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
The father, who was born in Belfast, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
we have managed to obtain details of this birth from the | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Registry Office and confirmed the mother's maiden name was Hardesty. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
It turns out that the grandparents of the deceased on that | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
side of the family married in Salford. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
This is where the grandmother came from. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
At some point left Salford, went to Ireland. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
On a 1911 Irish census we found another child that we didn't | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
know about, Hilda Coates. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
And there's another development. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
David's sent a researcher to John's last known address | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
and they've made a sad discovery. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
It seems from the enquiry made, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
he may have had a sister who committed suicide many years ago, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
although we've not been able to identify the sister's birth. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
This came from people that knew the deceased. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
Also mentioned in the report, that the | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
mother may have had a twin brother called Archibald. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
So, there are possibly some cousins on the maternal side. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
But, for now, the team focusing on John's father's family | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
and have learned that his Aunt Hilda married and had four children. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
At the moment I'm trying to obtain details of the children's | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
births to get full names and dates, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
but it looks like there are possible cousins on the father's side. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
As John's sister sadly died, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
these cousins would be heirs to his £175,000 estate. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
The team are working hard to find contact details for the cousins | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
and Aisha thinks she may have had some success. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
I've found a potential address and telephone number. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Let's hope it's right! | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
It's make or break time. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
If they can get hold of this cousin and confirm he's an heir, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
the team will be confident of beating the competition. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
-Whereabouts is he? -Yorkshire. -David gives the heir a call. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
But he isn't in, so he speaks to his wife. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
Your say your husband spoke last night with this other company | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
and they just said they were sending paperwork through today? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
You don't remember the name, at all? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
Can I phone you back about 11.30, 11.45? Thank you. Bye bye. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
They've confirmed it's the right family, but there is some worrying news. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
There is competition on this. We know there is another company involved. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
Contacted the family yesterday. So, we're running neck and neck. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
Frustratingly, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
it seems that another company has also had the same tipoff. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
Worse still, the rival firm are ahead with | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
the research on this branch of the family, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
but David is still hopeful they'll be the ones to sign up the heirs. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
They're going to look at our letters. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
They're not going to sign with anybody else at this junction, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
so I don't know. It's possibly 50/50, I don't know. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
And the race is now on to reach heirs on the maternal | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
side of the family before the competition. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
I'm hoping they've got difficulty with the Jackson side. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
We need to move fast on it. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
But, as their investigation continues, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
they struggle to stay ahead. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
You got a call. Was it yesterday? Two days ago. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
You have signed and returned the agreement. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Not all heir hunting cases are as straightforward as | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
they initially seem. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
When Robert Slack died in 2009, he left a will stating exactly | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
who he wanted his £610,000 estate to go to. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
But when Robert's solicitors processed his will, they discovered | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
a problem that led to something called a partial intestacy. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
It was a job for experienced case manager Bob Smith. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Partial intestacies arise where a deceased has made a will, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
but persons named in that will have deceased | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
and there are no provisions for substitution of what should | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
happen to that money if that person has died. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Two of the people named in Robert's will died before him, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
which meant that their share of the estate, a total of £70,000, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
would now need to go to any living blood relatives. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
The hunt for heirs was on. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
Robert Gerald Slack, known to his friends as Gerry, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
died on 20 March 2009 in York. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
He was 88 years old. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
Friend Malcolm Huntington recalls their first | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
meeting at a tennis tournament in 1956. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
He was playing with his wife, Floss, in the mixed doubles | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
and I was playing men's singles. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
We struck up a friendship just by chatting to each other | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
when we were off the court. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
That friendship lasted for, what, 50, 60 years? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
One of the very few people that you meet in life who didn't have any enemies. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
I suspect because he helped so many people. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
These were qualities that shone through on the tennis court. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
He was never a star tennis player, but he was a very solid player. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
The sort of person you could rely on in a club team. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
If you wanted somebody to have a battle for you, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
he would be the one to choose because he would be helpful. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
I keep using this word helpful, but he was helping his partner to get through a difficult situation. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
Gerry and his beloved wife, Floss, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
were inseparable for over 60 years, until she sadly died in 2006. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
It was a bit like fish and chips, salt and pepper. You never saw one without the other. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
They were always together supporting other people. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
That is my abiding memory of them, really. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
Malcolm was surprised that the administration of Robert's | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
will had not been straightforward after he died. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
J was a very organised character and I would be very surprised | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
if there were any sort of mistakes in that direction. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
I could imagine him doing exactly in his will what he wanted to do | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
and signing it off and being very organised about it. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
I can't think he would do anything different. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Nevertheless, Robert's solicitors referred the case to | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Bob Smith in 2011. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
His team faced the task of tracking down heirs to | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
a £70,000 portion of the estate. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
From the outset we had virtually no information at all | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
about Mr Slack's family. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
We were aware that he was married and had no children, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
but had no information about his parents or aunts and uncles at all. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
As Robert's wife, Floss, had also died | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
and the couple had no children, the team now needed to | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
look for any siblings that could be heirs to his estate. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Having obtained a copy of the deceased's birth certificate, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
we could then find his parents' marriage and carry out | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
a birth search, which determined that he was an only child. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
As his parents had long since passed away, the team knew | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
they would have to look to the wider family to find heirs. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
They began by looking for relatives of Robert's mother, Alice Holloway. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
Of the ten maternal branches of the family, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
we were quickly able to establish that four had | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
remained in the Louth area, married and had descendants. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
We were also easily able to identify that three further siblings | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
of the mother of the deceased had died single and without issue. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
The maternal aunts and uncles who married | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
and had children were Mini, Edith, Frederick and Cyril. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
With a further three siblings ruled out, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
there were now three more left to trace. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
Three siblings to the mother of our deceased, Charles, Maria | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
and Annie, we'd found on the 1901 census, but had | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
disappeared by the 1911 census, so that obviously indicates that they | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
had either moved somewhere else in the UK, or possibly gone abroad. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
This was a major setback, as unless the team could account | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
for these siblings, they wouldn't be able to complete the case. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
What we don't want is, after a distribution has been made, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
family members come forward at a later stage saying, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
"Hold on, what about me?" It was therefore really | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
important that we try to find out what had happened to those | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
three outstanding siblings to the mother of our deceased. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
But as they delved into the family's background, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
they got a clue as to why Robert's aunts and uncles had disappeared. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
The family were from Louth in Lincolnshire and census records show | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
that Robert's grandfather, William Holloway, worked as a farm labourer. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Louth was an agricultural market town. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
It served a considerable range of villages, way out in one direction, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:33 | |
the south west, for example, northwards and also onto The Wold. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
At the turn of the 20th century, Lincolnshire, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
like the rest of rural Britain, was in the midst of an agricultural | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
depression and it would have hit the Holloway household hard. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
It meant that the farmers were needing fewer agricultural | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
labourers because of more machinery, because of the price of corn | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
not having changed because of the import of foreign corn. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
It had a knock on effect in the village. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
In a large family, could they all find work | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
when they'd left school at 12? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
It would affect the market town, the services that were provided. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
It affected the whole economy. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Many were forced to leave the countryside altogether | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
and while the majority migrated to the UK's burgeoning | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
industrial cities, others were prepared to venture further afield. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
If we have a look at the effect of the agricultural depression, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
there were actually agents in Louth who organised groups of people | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
who wished to find a new life in a new country where there was | 0:16:42 | 0:16:48 | |
opportunity to own land, which if you were a young agricultural | 0:16:48 | 0:16:54 | |
labourer, there was no chance that that would happen at all. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
So, had Annie, Maria | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
and Charles Holloway joined this agricultural exodus? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
If so, where might they have gone? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Bob and his team needed to find out | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
and they knew they were facing an uphill struggle. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
Things were going to get even trickier | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
because this heir hunt was about to go international. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Researching Canada can be quite difficult. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Unfortunately, do due to data protection laws, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
only blood relations can apply for birth, death, marriage certificates. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Heir hunters use specialist skills to track down thousands | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
of rightful beneficiaries, but not all cases can be cracked. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Thousands remain on the Treasury Solicitor's unclaimed list. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
Cases will stay on the unclaimed list for a period of 12 years | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
from the date that the administration has been completed. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
That is a period of time that people still can come forward | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and claim the estate. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Today, we're focusing on two cases that have, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
so far, eluded the heir hunters. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Could you be the beneficiary they've been looking for? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Frank Garbutt Sherwood Adams died on 19 December 2008 in Middlesbrough. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:17 | |
So far, the heir hunters have struggled to find out any | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
more information about Frank or his family, but Adams is | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
a surname that is most common around Oxford and Northamptonshire. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Did you know Frank or any of his relatives? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Next is the case of Joyce Olive Dare. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Joyce died on 22 December 1999 in Cricklewood, London. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
Research suggests she was 70 years old. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Dare is a rare name, mostly found in the West Country. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
Could Joyce's family have originally come from this area? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
Could you be due a share of her legacy? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
The money raised by Bona Vacantia ultimately goes to | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
the general Exchequer, to benefit the country as a whole. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
But it's important to remember that the Crown doesn't want to | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
grab all estates that it possibly can. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
It wants kin to be found and that's what we work very hard to do. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
Here are those names once again. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Frank Garbutt Sherwood Adams and Joyce Olive Dare. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
If you are one of their long lost relatives, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
you could have a windfall coming your way. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
In London, the team at heir hunting company Fraser And Fraser | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
are racing against rival firms on the case of John David Coates. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
We're working as quickly as possible. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Having already found three heirs on the paternal side, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
they are now trying to crack John's mother's side of the tree | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
ahead of the competition. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
I am struggling with Margaret Ethel Jackson. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
We've got an approximate age for her. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
We put a birth in for her yesterday that we thought was right, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
but that's come back wrong. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
So, we're back to square one with her again. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
John David Coates died in the Worcestershire Royal Hospital | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
on 24 March 2012. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
He was 66 years old. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
John was an intelligent man and trained as an architect, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
but sadly he suffered from ill health throughout his life, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
and frequent hospital visits meant he couldn't work. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
He did however have a great passion for cars | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
and was often seen working away under the bonnet. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
No photos of John survive, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
but he was a bachelor and lived in Worcestershire with his parents, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Margaret and Harold, until they passed away. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
Neighbours remember them as a close, but private family. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
As a result, many of the details of John's life remain a mystery. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Back in the office, the team are desperately trying to make | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
some headway in the search for heirs to John's estimated £175,000 estate. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:51 | |
We still have a lot of work to do on the maternal. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
We can't even find a birth. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
An inquiry with a neighbour suggested that John's mother, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Margaret Ethel Jackson, had at least one sibling, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
and Roger is on the case. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
She's supposed to have a twin called Archibald that we can't find at all. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
So, I don't think she did have a twin called Archibald. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
But, just as the research seems to have stalled, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
the team get a vital lead. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
David spoke to an heir on the paternal side | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
and they said they had a feeling that she was born in Malta. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
This could be just the clue they need to find John's Uncle Archie | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
and his descendants, so, with no time to waste, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
case manager David gets on to it. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
I think it's because the grandfather was in the Army | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
and was stationed there at the time in Malta when they were born. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
At the outbreak of the Boer War in 1900, John's grandfather, Thomas | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
Jackson, signed up as a soldier in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
After the war was over, he returned to England and married, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
but shortly after the birth of his first son, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Thomas and his family were posted to Malta. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Malta was a very important place as part of the British Empire. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
It was a sort of a crossroads in the middle of the Mediterranean | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
and it was also a springboard. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
By having troops garrisoned in Malta, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
obviously they were there to protect Malta against enemy attack, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
but, just as importantly, there would be a readymade | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
source of troops that could then be transported from Malta to other | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
hotspots around the Mediterranean if British interests were threatened. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Despite living with the knowledge that at any time | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
he could be sent off to fight, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:30 | |
life on the island was perfect for Thomas and his young family. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
The weather was usually good. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
There were all sorts of entertainments that were | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
provided for the soldiers and their families. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
There would be outings. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:42 | |
In Malta very often there would be outings up to Gozo. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
There was a zoo on Malta at the time. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
There was a huge interest in amateur dramatics in most regiments | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
and everybody got involved, not just the soldiers, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
but the wives, the children. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
So, they could have quite a busy social calendar, which, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
to be honest, was needed to alleviate the boredom of being | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
stuck on a tiny little rock that was only about nine miles long. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
Unfortunately for John's grandparents, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
peaceful family life on the island was to be short lived. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Britain declares war on Germany at 11 o'clock at night on 4th | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
August 1914. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
Those troops on foreign stations, like Malta, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
initially they don't know what is going to happen to them, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
whether they are going to be needed. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
So, initially, they go about their business, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
but very quickly they realise that virtually all the regular | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
army are going to be needed in France. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
For Thomas, whose twins, Archie and Margaret, had been born just | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
a week earlier, the timing of such news was shattering. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
He left his family behind and headed to the battlefields of France. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
But worse was to come. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Thomas was captured by the Germans as a prisoner of war, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
and with no way of communicating with his family in Malta, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
they were left wondering if he was dead alive. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
They had almost no means of finding out to begin with | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
whether these guys had been captured or not. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Sometimes it took months, or even years. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
It would have been an incredibly tough time for Thomas' | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
wife with three very young children stuck in Malta with no | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
idea at all of what had happened to him. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
Thomas Jackson was lucky enough to survive and at the end | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
of the war he returned home to live with his family in Malta. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
Back in the office, the Malta connection is starting to | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
yield results for David and the research team. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Through their contacts on the island, they have been able | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
to trace the births of Margaret and her brother, Archibald, in Malta. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
We know the mother had a twin brother called William A Jackson. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
I think the 'A' stood for Archie or Archibald. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
He seems to have been known by that middle name. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Unfortunately, William A Jackson is more common. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
As John's Uncle William Archibald Jackson has passed away, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
the team now need to look to see if he had any children. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
We have identified seven possible | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
marriages for a William A Jackson from around the Birmingham area. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
I'm sending a list of these marriages, hopefully, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
to be checked by the Registry Office and see if one of them | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
comes up as William Archibald Jackson, son of Thomas Jackson. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
If it does, then we are in business. I'm hoping one of them is right. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
On the other hand, none of them may be right. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Once David has sent information to the Birmingham Register Office, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
he faces an anxious wait for the results. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
You never know, before the end of the afternoon | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
I might have some additional information. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Time is of the essence, obviously. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Despite David's optimism, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
the Register Office are not able to check all the records that afternoon | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
and until they hear back from them, the team are at a dead end. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
The following morning, the research results are in and, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
fortunately, one of the marriages has been proved correct. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
It's a great result, but has it come in time to beat the competition? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
Using the information from the marriage, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
the team are finally able to trace Archibald's daughter, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
a cousin of John's, who is now an heir to his estate. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
You got a call, was it yesterday or...? Two days ago. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
But you have signed and returned the agreement. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
Unfortunately, the competition have yet again got to an heir first | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
and she's already signed a contract with them. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
It's very bad news. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
The trouble is of course, now they can tell these other people | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
that they have signed up another heir, so people on the paternal side | 0:26:20 | 0:26:26 | |
might think, well, it's better to go to one company that's got heirs. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
Despite the knowledge that they are still behind the competition, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
it's onwards and upwards for the team as they search for other | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
heirs on John's mother's side of the family. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
-Is there any other person I can get checked, at all? -There are loads. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
Yeah, John J. Susan M. Beth A. David A. Sarah L. Judith L. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:53 | |
Well, how many in total? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
With a bit more work, the team discover that John's mother, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Margaret, was one of four. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
One of her brothers, Thomas, had four children of his own | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
and they are all heirs to the estate. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
It is actually good news for us. Hopefully, we can claim them. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
As the team track these cousins down, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
it seems they've finally broken into the lead. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
This time, none of the heirs David speaks to have been | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
contacted by any other firm. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
I have got two representatives based in Birmingham. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
I know one of them is free this afternoon. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
If you were around, would be possible for him to call | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
and see you? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
The team are on a winning streak now. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Dave is able to make appointments with the heirs | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
and sends out travelling researchers to see them and sign them up. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
One of the heirs they sign up is Peter Jackson, John's cousin. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
Peter knew John as a younger man and is able to shed some | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
light on the man who has, so far, seemed a bit of a mystery. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
I knew of him earlier in my life, when I was growing up. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
He was a bit older than me. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
He was more of my older brothers' and sister's generation. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
We saw him on family occasions and at Christmas, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
when we used to have family get togethers. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
So, that's how I knew him well. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
He seemed a pleasantly affable sort of chap. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
When I did meet him, we got on quite well. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
It was at one family occasion that John made a lasting impression. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
He took to the dance floor at my one brother's wedding. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
I distinctly remember him for that. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Bearing in mind this was in the 1970s, the fashions weren't | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
the greatest, so he was wearing a pretty horrendous outfit. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
And he was a pretty awful dancer, to say the least! | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
That's what I do remember, because I was a teenager at the time | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
and it's the one distinctive memory I have of him, really. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
It was a dance floor debut that made its mark. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
He did make an addition to the wedding, let's say that. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
I wouldn't say he stole the show, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
that would be a bit disrespectful to my brother, I think! | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
For Peter, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
becoming an heir is an opportunity to learn about his roots. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
I've always wanted to learn about my family history. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
My father never really talked to me much about it. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
I think probably because by the time I came around, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
he had got fed up of telling everybody about it! | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
But it's something I was interested in. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
I never realised, for instance, my aunt | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
and uncle Arch were actually born in Malta and that they were twins. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
For him, the knowledge he now has is worth far more than any inheritance. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
I don't think John was a multimillionaire, quite seriously. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
I don't think he had his own private island in the Pacific somewhere, no. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
I just think it's been an interesting | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
sort of excursion into the family history. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
There's quite a lot of us | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
and quite a lot of generations going back with their own little | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
piece of history, which is interesting to find out about. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
For case manager David Pacifico it is a job well done. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
It looks as if we've now identified all the family on both sides, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
paternal and maternal sides of the family, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
and it's not a large family in total. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
John's estate, with an estimated value of £175,000, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
will now be divided between all nine heirs, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
five of whom have chosen to sign with David and the team. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
In London, case manager Bob Smith and his team were | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
struggling in the search for heirs to the estate of Robert Slack. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
We could find no record of their death, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
nor any children from their marriages. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
This sort of suggests that they must have emigrated somewhere. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
While Robert had left a will, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
two of those set to inherit had died before him. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
This meant that their share of the estate, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
which amounted to £70,000, needed to go to Robert's blood relatives. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
Robert, known to his friends as Jerry, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
died in York in March 2009, aged 88. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Friend Malcolm Huntington met him and his wife, Floss, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
at the local tennis club and they became firm friends. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
I saw Jerry and Floss on many occasions socially. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
Many times after tennis matches and dinners and this sort of thing. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
We dined together, sometimes in individual homes, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
and we struck up a very nice social relationship with them. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
Despite Robert's enduring love of tennis, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
he and Floss also shared a much more hazardous interest. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
His other main hobby was watching rally driving. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
A very dangerous pastime on country roads through forests, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
people crashing into each other. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
He used to love going up to Dalby Forest | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
when I think it was the British Rally or whatever, various rallies. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
This would be, what, 30 years ago? | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
They were very keen on turning out at the crack of dawn | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
and spending several hours there. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Sadly, later in life, Robert was diagnosed with cancer, but | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
Malcolm was struck by his courage in dealing with this illness. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
I went to see him in St Leonard's Hospice about a week before he died. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:41 | |
He was very composed and calm. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
He said he had had a wonderful life and he'd no regrets. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:50 | |
In London, the team's hunt for heirs had focused on Robert's mother, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
Alice Holloway. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
She had ten siblings, but so far they'd only accounted for seven. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
The other three had disappeared from census records and although it | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
was possible they'd emigrated, the team didn't know for sure. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
Their only hope was that someone in the family might | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
know where the three siblings had gone. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
When Bob and the team began speaking to relatives, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
they got their breakthrough. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:19 | |
Having established contact with living maternal heirs | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
here in the UK, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
we were told that three branches of the family had emigrated to Canada. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
This was a huge result for the team. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Now they knew that Annie, Maria and Charles had emigrated to Canada, they could begin tracing | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
relatives, but that came with its own set of problems. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
We are quite fortunate here in England that we can | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
apply for birth, death and marriages fairly easily. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
The information that those certificates provide make it | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
fairly straightforward to put family trees together. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
In Canada, that's not the case. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
You have to be a blood relation to obtain those certificates | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
and that makes life very, very tricky. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Annie, Maria and Charles Holloway set sail to start their new | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
lives in July of 1910. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
Charles was the youngest at just 16 years old. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
The fact the siblings even embarked on this 3,500 mile | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
journey indicates just how terrible living conditions had become | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
at the height of Lincolnshire's agricultural depression. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
By contrast, life in Canada offered a brighter future. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
Migrating to Canada in the early 20th century was a great | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
opportunity for lots of British people. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Wages were higher, living conditions could be much better. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
Whether you want to go to the cities or go to agriculture, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
there are great opportunities and you could really | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
improve your life by moving to Canada in several different ways. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
We think about Britain, and particularly England in the | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
late 19th century and we don't associate it with social mobility. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
In Canada, the idea that you could work your way up the ladder | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
was much stronger than would be back in England. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
That would be attractive for many potential migrants. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Annie, Maria and Charles also had skills that were in demand. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
One important reason Canada wanted migrants was essentially to | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
settle the West and populate the country. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
There is all of this more or less unclaimed land and Canada would | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
like to have that settled to lay a stake on the ground, as it were. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
Immigrants would be very attractive for doing that. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
Coming from a depressed farming region | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
like Lincolnshire, Canada was a land of opportunity for the Holloways. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
If you had farm skills and could deal with farming where | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
winter is very long, Canada offered these great opportunities | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
on basically virgin land, after the railway had gone through the West. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
Also, if you wanted to have more living space, better housing, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
all that sort of thing, Canada would be a much better place. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
For immigrants, laying claim to virgin land hadn't always been | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
so easy. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
One change in Canada in the 1890s, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
was in previous decades the West had not been open, so the railroad | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
going across the Prairies from Winnipeg to Vancouver meant | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
you could settle Western Canada, which wasn't really possible before. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
It was this new world that Annie, Maria | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
and Charles Holloway made their home in 1910. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
But finding their relatives was tricky, as Bob | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
and his team had no access to birth, death and marriage certificates. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
You do rely on painstaking research in terms of going through | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
obituaries, electoral rolls, telephone directories etc. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
But while the Canadian research was clearly going to take some time, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
the search for heirs in the UK have been far more successful. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
The team have established that four of Robert's aunts | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
and uncles who stayed in the UK had children or grandchildren | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
who are heirs to the £70,000 estate. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
The total number of heirs in the UK was 47. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
One of these heirs is Patricia, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
whose grandmother Edith was Robert's aunt. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Getting the call from Bob and his team came as a big surprise. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
I had absolutely no idea who they were talking about | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
because it just referred to in the letter as 'someone' | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
had left an estate with no will. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
Patricia didn't know Robert, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
but she does have vivid childhood memories of Great Uncle Charles, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
one of the three family members who had emigrated to Canada in 1910. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
He often return to the UK to visit relatives with wife, Ada. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
I remember Charles wearing a trilby hat, always in a suit, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
and he was quite a bit taller than Ada. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Aunt Ada was quite well built, but ever so smartly dressed. Loved red. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:43 | |
It was lovely when they visited because they did speak | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
like Canadians speak and they had the Canadian accent. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
While glad that her relatives sought a better life abroad, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Patricia remains a Lincolnshire girl to the core. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
We are definitely from Louth and we are Lincolnshire through and through. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
We wouldn't have gone anywhere else. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
My sister has moved away from Lincolnshire, but, no, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
we love Louth, the quaint place it is. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
Patricia's fondness for Louth makes sense as her family have | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
lived there for many generations and becoming an heir has made her | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
eager to find out more about her family history. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
I am curious to find out more about Robert's life, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
but, to be perfectly honest, I am just as curious to find out about all the other family members. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:30 | |
And knowing my grandma Edith Holloway had ten brothers | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
and sisters is just amazing. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
I'd really love to research it all now and in all directions | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
of all the members, not just Robert, but the others, as well. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
Fortunately, being contacted by Bob and his team has given | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
Patricia the perfect opportunity to find out more. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
She's been able to get in touch with two of Robert's other heirs, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Tony and Janice, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
whose grandfather Frederick was Patricia's great uncle. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
I'm very excited, yes. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
It will be nice to see Janice again because I've only seen her once | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
and spoken to her a few times on the phone. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
-And Tony, this will be the first time. -Patricia! -Hello, Patricia! | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
-How are you? -It's lovely to see you again, Janice. It's lovely. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:20 | |
I've missed you! | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
-This is Tony, my brother. -Hello! | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
The gathering is a chance to talk about the Holloway's | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
emigration to Canada and what they might have done once they got there. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
Do you know why they went to Canada? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
I've only been told by my auntie that they bought a one way | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
ticket and I think they went for a better life and to see what the | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
life was out there because Charles, Annie and Marie went out | 0:39:42 | 0:39:48 | |
there first and they were the three oldest brothers and sisters. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:54 | |
As far as I know, they went out working in the forestry, lumberjacks. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
-Right. -The only one that went to Canada that regularly came back was | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
Charles and Ada. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
I think they must have been having a pretty good living in Canada. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
They always seemed like they did. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:09 | |
I always admired the clothes that they wore. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
They stood out from ordinary people that you'd meet on the street. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
They did, that's right. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
Patricia discovers that Canada isn't the only country that the | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Holloways have emigrated to. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
We moved to North Africa when Tony and I were young. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
And that's my dad with Tony in North Africa. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
-So, that's Alec. -Alec, yeah. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
-And that's Tony. -Me! -That's when we lived in North Africa. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
We lived in Tobruk in Libya. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
This explains why Tony and Janice's immediate family became | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
disconnected from the Holloways remaining in the UK. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
You've got so much information about my family and, Tony, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
you and I haven't. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
-I wonder why? -Yeah, and so do I. -There seems to be a big gap. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
Were we the black sheeps of the family? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
Do you know if anything happened? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
I think it was just a case of a large family | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
and just not keeping in touch. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
-Yeah. -To be honest, there were no telephones then. -That's right. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
-No mobile telephones. -You find that happens with families anyway. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
I can understand how families do break away a bit | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
because we know it with myself and Janice | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
when our family went to live in Tobruk in North Africa. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
We found that we had not been in contact with anybody and, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
obviously, it's a long, long way away, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
that families do make a break and the only way of contacting | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
you could have had then was to write to somebody. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
-You don't always write letters, do you? -No, that's right. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
There is a break, isn't there? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
Yes, and especially with there being 11 children! | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
For Patricia, becoming an heir is all about reconnecting with | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
long lost family and her meeting with Janice | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
and Tony is just the start of this journey. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
When I heard the name Robert Slack, I am grateful that | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
I heard that name because I wouldn't have been in touch with Janice | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
and Tony otherwise. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
I didn't realise that my grandma had ten brothers and sisters. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
It's not going to stop here. I'm going to carry on researching into the family tree | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
and the history. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
For Bob and his team in London, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
the case of Robert Slack was now almost complete. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
After weeks of painstaking Canadian research, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
they have been able to identify all of the living heirs who | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
descended from Annie, Maria and Charles. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
In total, there are now 72 heirs to the estate. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
For Bob, it was a tricky, but rewarding case. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
I'm very happy with the way things have turned out. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Quite a complicated case, in terms of research and what have you. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
So, yes, really, really happy that we resolved it | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
and we found everyone. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
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