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In the UK, around 30 million adults haven't made a will. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
If anyone dies without one, or with no known relatives, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
their estate is dealt with by the Bona Vacantia, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
a division of the Treasury Solicitors Office. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
When the new cases are brought to me | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
we make any enquiries that we can make to find kin, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
and then if we can't find kin, they're then put onto the website | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
for kin to come forward themselves and claim the estate. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
And that's where the heir hunters step in. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
They use specialist skills to trace long-lost relatives. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
12 children off their marriage. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Oh, Lord, so we want Mum to be alive. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Their investigations delve into the past | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
and uncover hidden stories. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Edward Burlton was a farm bailiff. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
All the Burlton children were all involved in farming. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
They bring family memories back to life. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
You look like Mum a bit! Your eyes. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
And, at the end of the day, | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
they bring news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
With a little bit of financial help, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
I will now be able to spend more time researching family, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
keeping in touch with distant relatives... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Coming up - the hunters have a majestic mission on their hands | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
as he attempts to track down a family of Kings. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
King is a pretty bad surname to research. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
And while searching through piles of belongings, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
the team come across a gem of Imperial worth! | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
We've since discovered that the pearls found in Marion's house | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
actually belong to the Duchess of Windsor. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
held by the Treasury? | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Could a fortune be heading your way? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
It's Friday morning, and in the offices of Fraser and Fraser | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
the UK's largest probate research company, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
it's a hive of activity. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
So, what's the score? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
We need the marriage, don't we? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
The Bona Vacantia list has just been released. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
This is one source of their work, and comes in daily. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
This one's illegit. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
I need you to phone me as soon as possible | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
so I can give you all the information. Thank you. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
When the new list of names is released, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
the team must quickly work out which cases might be valuable. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
It's a race against time, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
as there will be other companies on the chase. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
And as heir hunters are paid by commission from a percentage | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
of the estate agreed by the beneficiaries, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
their aim is to sign up as many heirs as possible. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Early signs are that one case has potential. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
We think it might be an estate where the deceased | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
has died in a nursing home. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
There is talk it could be upwards of £50,000 in savings accounts. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
So from our point of view, it is a lucrative estate | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
that we obviously want to beat competition on. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
James King died aged 78 in 2013 in Pimlico. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
Unfortunately, no photos of James King have survived. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
Neighbour Nadia Carcombe knew him for many years. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
He was very nice. Polite. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
But he was never a boisterous man. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
He wasn't a man you'd... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Normally I could say to someone "Hello, Sunshine. How are you?" | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
Any man - builder - doesn't matter who. To make the day. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
And he'd... I wouldn't do it to him, because I felt it would hurt. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
Now, that's how I knew him. A delicate man. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
James King had served in the army with the Royal Fusiliers. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
We were both ex-forces. I was ex-forces. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
Never mentioned it. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
It seemed the past was a closed book. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
He didn't want to know anybody really. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
He would acknowledge you, but that was as far as it went. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
And when he was growing older and iller, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
he became even more reclusive. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
In all the time I knew him, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
I never... Apart from carers, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
I never saw a visitor. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
Never saw a soul. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Back at the office, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
the team have started by looking for James's place of birth, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
and case researcher Alan has made some good progress. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
I went back to the records and had a look and I found a birth in Stepney. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
James King was born in 1934 in the East London area of Stepney. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
He was the son of Annie Ada Lane and James King. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
With the parents identified, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
the team are able to start looking for siblings, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
and it quickly becomes clear this is a big family. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
He was one of nine children, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
so the team have their work cut out for them | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
as they must trace them all | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
if they are to find all the beneficiaries. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
Ann dies aged five. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
-Does she? I didn't find that. -Died of whooping cough. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
Eileen married, and died. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Alan and Dave have already established that | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
two of James's siblings were Ann and Eileen. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Both have died. However, Eileen had two children. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Could these be the first heirs to be found? | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
Alan soon finds a contact number for one of Eileen's daughters. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
So then case manager Dave can make the call. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Good afternoon. Very sorry to trouble you. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
I'm trying to trace a lady who may have been born in 1942 in Stepney. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:54 | |
Thank you. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
Just got it in in the minute. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
You only get one minute to leave answerphone messages. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
So I try to cram it all in. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Alan continues to try and find James's six other siblings | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
but it's not an easy task. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
As he discovers, when looking into James's eldest sister - Jessie. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:20 | |
I can't find her. I'm looking on the electoral roll. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Whilst Alan and the team continue to dig deeper | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
into the King family, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
researcher Dave Hadley is out on the road. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
His job is to make enquiries, collect documents and sign up heirs. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
You're bound to build up a relationship and a rapport | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
with the beneficiaries | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
because you're in contact with them throughout the process. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
And sometimes these things can take quite a while. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
It can be anything up to 18 months, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
two years before the estate is finally distributed. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
Back in the office, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Dave Slee gets a call from a lady | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
who he hopes is one of James's sisters. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Hello, Mel. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
Mrs King, yes. Lovely. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Now, was you born in 1942, Mrs King? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
So far so good. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Now, was you the daughter of James King and Annie Ada Lane? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
George King. Right. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
The fact that you're not related to the deceased... | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Or, you could be, but very distantly, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
and wouldn't be an entitled party, so... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
Thank you so much for coming back to me, because it helps me... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
It resolves a problem that I had. Yeah, exactly. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Not a great start for the team. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Thank you. Bye-bye now. Bye-bye. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
King's a pretty bad surname to research, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
so the more information they can give us | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
the easier it makes our life. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
But they need to find a lead soon, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
or risk losing out to another company | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
who are bound to be on this case too. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
I'm making sure this one's right, because she's gained an initial. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
And James's elusive elder sister Jessie | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
is causing Alan a headache. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Anyone know what Bethnal Green's postcode is? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
E2? Thanks. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
RINGING | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Hello, David Slee. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
But, at last, the team makes some headway. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
They have established that James's younger brother was Alfred, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
and Dave has been able to speak to him on the phone. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Fortunately, two of his siblings - | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
so other siblings of the deceased - | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
are also in the same area, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
so hopefully we can get them all together. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
It's a promising start. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
But they need to move fast, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
or else other heir-hunting firms | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
might beat them to those all-important heirs. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
So far, they've managed to trace three of James's siblings, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
and they all live around Harlow in Essex. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
However, all the family were born and grew up in Stepney, | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
an area of East London | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
devastated by the Second World War. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
AIR RAID SIREN WAILS | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
In 1940, when James would have been just six years old, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Hitler's forces embarked on a brutal bombing campaign, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
and the East End bore the brunt. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
For case manager and fellow East Ender Dave Slee, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
the story strikes a personal chord. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
I can imagine that for this family growing up | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
as young children in Stepney during the war, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
it would've been harrowing. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
This is an area, where the docks were, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
that were bombarded from 1940 onwards. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
My family were in London during that time, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
my mother was evacuated out of London. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
Yeah, harrowing for youngsters in that period. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
You can understand why the deceased's siblings | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
have moved out towards Harlow. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
This was a town that was really a new town built after the war | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
to re-house people that were bombed out from the East End. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
All down to David Hadley now. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
I've had a call from the office and they've got the name and | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
address of a brother of the deceased, so I'm on my way to see him. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
Dave is in Harlow, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
where he's meeting Alfred, James's youngest brother. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
-Mr King? -Yeah. -Dave Hadley. -Oh, pleased to meet you. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
It's the heir hunters who have had to break the news | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
of James's death to his brother. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Nobody knew very much about him. You know, he was one of these guys, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
he seemed to keep himself very much to himself. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
It's all come as a shock to Alfred, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
who hadn't heard from his brother for over 50 years. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-How did he die, d'you know, or...? -Well, I don't know for sure. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
And Alfred reveals some surprising news about his older brother's past. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
I mean, I only knew him when I was young, you see. He was in the army. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
I'm sure it was Korea, but he was shot in the head, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
and, er, the telegram come. Me dad took it, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
and being the eldest son, it said, "Missing believed dead." | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Of course that caused him to have a stroke soon afterwards. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
-What, the...? -Me dad. -Oh, your dad? -Yeah. -Oh, right. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
In 1953, 12 years after the Blitz in London, 18-year-old James was | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
conscripted into the army and sent to fight in Korea. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Jim Jacobs, a veteran of the Korean War, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
describes what life would have been like for such a young man. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
As an 18-year-old going to Korea from the United Kingdom, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
there was an incredible difference. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
I saw gunshot injuries, I saw shell and mortar injuries, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
and they're the worst, because a man in Korea generally was not shot | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
by a single sniper's bullet to the forehead as you see a lot in films. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
Most of them were killed by artillery. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
James returned home, but things had changed whilst he'd been away. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
Of course, he come home from the army and me dad had passed away, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
and he wanted to be the head of the family and tell everyone what to do. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
He was a bit forceful like that. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
And she said, "No." | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
And he said, "Right, I'm going," | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
-and he left the house and we never seen him any more after that. -Yeah. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
But can Alfred shed any light on the mystery of Jessie? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
She's apparently still alive. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
She's about 83 now. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
She was in Tower Hamlets but no-one could tell us where she is. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
She won't tell us. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
With information about Jessie trickling in, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
the heir hunters hope to piece it all together. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
Alfred is happy to sign and has agreed with Dave a percentage | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
of his estate to go to the company for acting on his behalf. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
So a good result for the team. But it's also a time for reflection. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
-Thanks very much. -Cheers, then, bye-bye. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Although I haven't seen me brother since I was 12 years old, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
then suddenly realised that he's passed away | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
and I haven't seen him, you know, it's sad, very sad. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
After all this time, you know, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
all of a sudden he's not here no more. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
And I can't speak to him no more, you know. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
Me eldest brother, you know, lost him. Yeah. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
He's going to have a chat to his brothers and sisters now and, erm, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
he's going to break the news to them, which is the best way of dealing | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
with it, and I'm going to come back tomorrow and interview some of them. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
With their first heir signed, the team are making good progress, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
but with James's sister Jessie proving elusive, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
this case could yet have a sting in the tail. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
It's always the way, you think you've got it all finished | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
and then there's always one nagging step that needs to be completed. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
Finding long-lost relatives is the main job of the heir hunters. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
But sometimes, when a person leaves behind a property, it can be up to | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
the team involved in administering the estate to clear the house. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
It's great that a property exists, and it can be sold, but so many of | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
the people who die intestate, their houses are in very poor condition. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
Today in Shropshire, probate executive Michelle Parry | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
and house clearance company manager John Thacker have been tasked | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
with clearing the home of a lady called Marion Dawson, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
who died in 2012 without leaving a will. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
When I saw the state of the property | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
I realised it was going to take quite a lot of time to get through | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
all of the paperwork in order to assess the extent of Marion's estate. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:06 | |
The house clearance has been the latest stage of the process, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
and Saul Marks of Celtic Research is in charge of administering | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
Marion's estate, having taken up the search for her heirs. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
It became clear that we would need to commission a house clearance firm | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
to remove, basically, all the junk, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
in order to make the house presentable in order to be sold. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
Marion Dawson died in hospital on the 17th of October 2012. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:42 | |
Her neighbours, Steve and Jan Austin, talk fondly of her. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
We moved here about May 2012, and we saw Marion strides away, really. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
She was pottering backwards and forwards between the garage | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
and the back door, so we'd just stick our heads over the fence | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
and she'd do the same and she'd find out what we were doing, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
just exchange pleasantries. She was a nice lady, really. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
She seemed to have quite a nice little self-contained life. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
-She was happy. -Yeah. -She was really happy. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
She was always smiling | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
and she was always up for a conversation, a chat. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
And very proud of her garden. She used to have a gardener come. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
It was quite a nice garden | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
so somebody used to come round to cut hedges and lawns and that. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
But she seemed to spend a lot of time just sat out. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
Last summer, in between the rain, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
she used to sit out quite a lot and enjoy the wildlife and that. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Yeah, just enjoy the wildlife and the sunshine. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
While Marion spent time ensuring her garden always looked presentable, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
her house remained a mystery. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
-Not many people were allowed into the house. -No. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
She was private, she was private. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
She'd obviously had a difficult life. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
I think she'd battled with breast cancer and her husband died of | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
cancer, and she'd had a difficult life, certainly in the latter years. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
She couldn't cope with moving around the house, so I think she got a bed | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
moved into the kitchen, and that's where she spent most of her time. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
Her neighbours say she found a lot of comfort up on Prees Heath. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
This is where Marion grew up, and was also where she spent a lot | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
of her time later in life, helping out on the butterfly reserve. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Evelyn Calder has many happy memories | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
of time spent there with Marion. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
I've known Marion since I was about three years old. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
She was three years older than me. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
They lived a few yards away from where we lived, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
and Marion's mother used to come and help my mother do the washing. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
Mrs Burlton was very nice. We always got the sweet coupons off them. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
When Marion died aged 79, there were no known relatives, so her estate | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
was advertised by the Treasury, and Saul decided to take up the hunt. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
He works for a probate research company run by Peter | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
and Hector Birchwood, and they have offices all over the United Kingdom. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
Saul Marks is their man in Liverpool. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
The first thing I did was looked up her marriage, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
of a Burlton to a Dawson, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
and I found her marriage to Geoffrey Dawson in 1966. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
I also then found Geoffrey's death in 2000, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
and that rounded off that part of the investigation. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
But when Saul began the search for children he didn't have much luck. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
It seemed there were none. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
I did find that the deceased had an elder brother, Cyril Burlton, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
but he died in 1985. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
There were no marriage listings for him and we were able to prove | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
quite conclusively that he'd not had any children. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
That meant that any heirs to this lady's estate would be cousins, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
either on the paternal side or the maternal side. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Saul started with Marion's father, Ellis Joseph, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
who was one of ten children born to Edward and Sarah. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
Edward Burlton was a farm bailiff and it seems from the censuses | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
that all the Burlton children were all involved in farming in that area. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
The community in Shropshire that Marion grew up in was | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
built around agriculture and a farm bailiff was a significant job. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
The farm bailiff on many farms | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
would be essentially the foreman of the farm, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
carrying out the day-to-day instructions for the farmer. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
At the time, farming was perceived | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
as a relatively high-status profession. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
A lot of farming families would have brought their children up to see | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
little option or little type of work which would be suitable for them. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
Farming was a relatively prestigious occupation and there was a | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
tendency for, particularly the sons, to follow their fathers. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
And that was certainly true of the Burltons. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Both Marion's dad Ellis and her uncle George | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
followed in their father's footsteps and worked on the farm. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
But no-one else decided to follow the family trade. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Despite being a large family, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
only two of Ellis's siblings had children. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
These would be Marion's first cousins and heirs to her estate. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
The only other Burltons who actually had any children | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
were his brother Arthur and his sister Lily. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Arthur had one child named Dora, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
but she died without issue so there were no heirs on that branch either. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
So, having been through this enormous Burlton family with nine possible | 0:20:34 | 0:20:40 | |
branches apart from the deceased's own branch, there was | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
only one branch left that could possibly have any heirs on it. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Saul's search rested with Marion's aunt Lilian. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
If she had children they would be heirs. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Lily Burlton married a gentleman named William Pugh | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
and had three children. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
Sadly all those children have since passed away, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
but they had quite a number of children amongst the three of them. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
So, finally, after a bit of a scare that there might not be any heirs | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
at all, I suddenly had a nice group of heirs who were all | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
cousins of each other who I could then contact. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Saul was close to getting the case tied up. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
But before he could relax, a curve ball was thrown his way. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
All our research would have just been for nothing. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Heir hunters trace thousands of rightful beneficiaries every year, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
but not all cases can be cracked. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
There are thousands of estates | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
on the Treasury's Bona Vacantia list, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
a file of unclaimed estates | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
that have eluded the heir hunters and remain unsolved. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
The money raised by the Bona Vacantia Division | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
is passed to Her Majesty's Treasury, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
and if a claim is made within 12 years to an estate on the | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
unclaimed list, for example, then we'd pay that money back out again. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
Today we're focusing on two cases that are yet to be | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
solved by the heir hunters. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Could you be the beneficiary they're looking for? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Could you be about to inherit some money from a long-lost relative? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
First is the case of Paul Bernard, a widower who died | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
on the 12th of October 2008 in Camden, North London, aged 82. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Records reveal he was born in Lagos, Nigeria, on the 1st of July 1926. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:28 | |
Paul also used the surname Akinola | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
and was sometimes known as Paul Akinola Bernard. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Paul wed his second wife, Maria Vidarte de Castro, in 1970. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
But she died just two months before him in August 2008. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
It's believed he may have had a daughter from his first marriage. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
Despite all this information, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
there's been no success in tracing beneficiaries to his estate. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Do you know anything which could shed some light on his family? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Next, can you help with the case of Stefan Bohdan Adams? | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
He died on the 21st of February 2012 in Hammersmith, London. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:07 | |
He was born in January 1950 in Leeds, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and also went by the name Stefan Kwiatkowski. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
The name Kwiatkowski originates from Poland, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and means "one from the place of little flowers." | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
Could this name be the key to unlocking Stefan's past? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Did you know Stefan? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
Both Paul and Stefan's estates remain unclaimed, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
and if no-one comes forward, their money will go to the government. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
The money raised by the Bona Vacantia Division is passed | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
annually to the Treasury, and it goes into the consolidated fund | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
therefore to benefit the country as a whole. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Do you have any information that could help solve these cases? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
And if you're related, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
you could have thousands of pounds coming your way. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Heir hunter Saul Marks and the team from Celtic Research | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
were hard at work on the case of Marion Dawson, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
whose estate was estimated to be worth up to £350,000. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
After an initial scare that there were no heirs to her estate, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
the team were now on the hunt for five of her first cousins. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Marion was born into a farming family and spent her whole life | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
in and around the beautiful rural area of Shropshire. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
However, there was one particular spot | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
that held a special place in her heart, Prees Heath. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
It was here she lived with her parents | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
and spent most of her childhood. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
But all that changed when Britain went to war. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
Marion and her family were uprooted from their beloved moorland as their | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
house was knocked down to make way for one of several pop-up | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
airfields, set up by the RAF to cope with wartime demand. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
RAF Tilstock was built in 1942 by Sir Alfred McAlpine, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
and in the particular area that her house used to occupy, erm, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
it was replaced by runways and several hangars. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
The airfield itself was initially used | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
for an operational training unit, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
which is where crews would come together from their initial training, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
they would be trained to operate heavy bombers, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
so the type of aircraft they would | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
train on would be Armstrong Whitworth Whitleys and Vickers Wellingtons. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
They would be trained to carry out bombing raids over Europe, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
so the main offensive came through the use of these heavy bombers. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
Marion and her family had to leave everything they knew behind | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
and were re-housed. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
They lived in two railway carriages, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
er, for some years. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:57 | |
Yeah, they always had ducks and chickens running about everywhere. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
In the railway carriages and everything. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
After the war, Marion married and set up home in Whitchurch, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
not far from where she'd built those childhood memories. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
And it was here she would remain until her dying day. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
For Saul, tracking down heirs to the estate, it seemed that, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
like Marion, the wider family hadn't ventured too far away either. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
Eventually, he had managed to speak to one of the heirs... | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
Hi, my name's Saul Marks... | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
..who then put him in touch with all her cousins. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
In total there were seven heirs on the paternal side who were all | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
descendants of that branch, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
and we were able to secure agreements from all of them. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
Having successfully signed up a number of heirs, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Saul was about to get a nasty shock. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
There was one heart-stopping moment in the administration | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
when Michelle told me they'd actually found a will in the house. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
And if that will had been valid, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
all our work would have gone out the window. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
This was potentially disastrous news for Saul | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
and could mean all his hard work would have been for nothing. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
Michelle, the probate executive, set about checking the will | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
to see if it was valid. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
It was written in the 1970s. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
She had left everything to her husband | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
but her husband unfortunately passed away before she did. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
And Marion never updated it. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:27 | |
Saul could finally distribute the estate as the will was invalid. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
It's with great relief that we were able to sit back knowing | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
that the heirs that we'd found were indeed heirs to the estate. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
One of the heirs is David, the son of Marion's cousin Grace. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
He lives just 35 miles away from Shrewsbury in Stourbridge. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
That's their wedding, I didn't even know I went to it, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
but that's me at the back. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:58 | |
David has been shown one of Marion's photo albums | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
found among the treasured possessions in her house. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
The familiar faces spark a lot of memories. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Did use to visit Marion in the '60s and late '50s. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
I've always had the impression that Marion's family | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
were quite well off in those days. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
These were people that had gone through the Second World War, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
used to rationing, and thereby quite frugal, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
and I think they carried that on in life. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Like myself, we hoard things and keep things. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
If I don't use it in 10 years it might come in handy in 20 years! | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
This is my wedding. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
And we've just about got Marion on here | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
and Geoffrey just at the back. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
Back in 1973 was the last time I saw Marion when she came to my wedding. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:54 | |
And we just gradually lost touch. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
For Saul, the case was pretty much wrapped up, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
as he had also traced Marion's mother's side of the family | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
who were all abroad. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
The deceased mother's death certificate | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
showed that she was born in Belgium in 1892, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
so what I had to do was then look for any other occurrences | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
of her surname in this country. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
She came from a large family herself | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
and there were actually quite a number of heirs | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
who still lived in Belgium. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
But there was one more surprise for Saul, hidden in Marion's house. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
While searching the house, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
two sets of pearl necklaces were found, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
together with a Sotheby's catalogue. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
We've since discovered that the pearls found in Marion's house | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
actually belonged to the Duchess of Windsor. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
The pearls have been brought to an auction house | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
where they'll soon go under the hammer. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
So Marion purchased these necklaces | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
as two cultured pearl necklaces, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:56 | |
but obviously that isn't quite the reason that she chose these two. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
She could have picked up a cultured pearl necklace anywhere, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
but the fact that she bought both of these, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
and the fact of this providence, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:05 | |
really means that she obviously has some interest, or had some interest | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
in the royal family, maybe in particular Wallis Simpson. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
The Duchess of Windsor, of course, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
very prolific in the media in the 1930s and 1940s, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
height of the Art Deco style. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
She became, if you like, a bit of a poster girl for it. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
She was looked upon as a style icon - | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
beautiful clothes and basically beautiful jewellery, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
that's what she was known for. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
The pearls were recently sold | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
and boosted the value of the estate by £2,000. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
But, for heir David, Marion's legacy is more than financial. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
The whole experience has revived memories of his long-lost cousin. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
With hindsight, it would have been nice | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
to have perhaps got to know her a little bit better. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
It's quite sad that Marion was alone | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
and I wish I had more information and would have known, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
because I would have been able to visit, because I do frequent the neighbourhood quite often. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
Hopefully, with a little bit of financial help, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
I will now be able to spend more time researching family, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
keeping in touch with distant relatives, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
generally keeping everybody together. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
Heir hunters Fraser & Fraser are working on the case | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
of 78-year-old James King who died in Pimlico. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
Unfortunately no photographs of James King have survived. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
Researcher Dave Hadley is making good progress, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
having signed one heir and with two more visits planned. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
It's important they sign as many heirs as possible. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
They've ruled out three who died with no issue, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
and have spoken to one on the telephone. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
But one stem is proving problematic, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
that of James's elder sister Jessie. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
She's the only stem outstanding. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
There is issue on that, lots of issue. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
But the team are persevering. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Sorry, Dave, when was Jessie born? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Jessie - born Sep 30. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Last known living in Bethnal Green area. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
Jessie was the first child of Annie and James King. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
So far, all the team have to go on | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
is the name of her husband. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
12 children off their marriage. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
Oh, Lord. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
So we want Mum to be alive. Bye, now. Bye-bye. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
David Hadley's just managed to see | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
one of the deceased's nieces. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
She's given us some information about the last remaining stem, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
which appears that one of the sisters of the deceased, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
she married and had 12 children. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
So I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she's alive and entitled, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
otherwise it would mean we've got to find 12 further heirs entitled, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
so it makes more work for us. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
The news that Jessie had so many children | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
puts the pressure on Dave and Alan | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
as rival heir hunters are also likely to be working on this case, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
vying to sign up the heirs first | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
and secure their commission as agreed by the beneficiaries. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
Husband was a proprietor of a cafe, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
or something like that. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
And their research exposes | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
the enormity of the task ahead. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
-Are these all with mother's maiden name...? -Yeah. -King? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
So, whose name is...? M-U... | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
We'll just have to write that in. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
It's all Greek to me. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
But it looks like their persistence has paid off. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
Just two hours later, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Dave thinks he's got a lead on Jessie. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Right, I think we've got lucky | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
and we've just found the last remaining heir | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
outstanding on this estate. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:18 | |
The team have a number for Jessie, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:21 | |
and if she's alive and they can speak to her | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
it means they will have their final heir | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
and won't have to trace her 12 children. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Uh-uhh. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:35 | |
But it's not looking good. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
And there's no answer. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
So he tries another number. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
It's always the way - you think you've got it all finished | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
and then there's always one nagging little stem | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
that needs to be complete. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
It's not what Dave was hoping to hear. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
So as he can't get hold of Jessie, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
the team's only option now | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
is to start searching for her 12 children. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
She's done what a lot of women do | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
when they split up from their husbands... | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
she's reverted back to her middle name. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
Good afternoon, I'm trying to get in contact with a Philip. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Thank you for your time, bye-bye. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
We can't do any more than that, can we? Jesus. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
With the strain of finding the last heir | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
taking its toll in the office, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
Dave Hadley is out on the road | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
visiting potential heirs. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
Today he's on his way back to see James's brother Alfred | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
and meet two other siblings, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
John and Patricia. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
He's got a number of brothers and sisters living in the same area | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
and he very kindly agreed | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
to get them all together | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
so that I can meet with them all in one go. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
Saves me a lot of time and travel. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
Hello. How are you? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Dave explains to John why he's there. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
I mean, basically James passed away last year | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
and didn't leave a will. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
-Left a little bit of money. -He had a hard life, Jimmy. -Did he? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
Yeah, he did, yeah. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
For John, hearing about his brother's death | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
has brought memories flooding back. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
One fond memory I have | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
is when Jimmy used to play the maracas | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
and we used to have a laugh and I used to sing. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
I was always singing Dean Martin songs, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
cos they liked that sort of thing. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
Being in the army I think really affected him. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
John's sister Patricia then arrives to meet Dave. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
-Where were you born? -Bethnal Green Hospital. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
I don't really want it this way. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
If he was alive, you know... | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
But my mum chucked him out when he was younger | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
and he didn't want to know us. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
The news of her brother's death | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
highlights the importance of the here and now, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
and keeping in touch with all the family. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
As it appears Jessie is as elusive to her siblings | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
as she is to the heir hunters. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
If they do find Jessie and I send the letter for her to read, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
or whoever picks it up, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
I'll be very grateful. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
And if she is alive I'd like to see and find out where she lives. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
Back in the office, the team has also been wanting to find Jessie | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
and the hunt has taken a twist. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
Dave Slee has managed to find contact details | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
for one of her daughters. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
A genuine matter, I'm trying to trace a family by the name of King | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
and I'm hoping you're the daughter of Jessie Ali, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
whose maiden name was King. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
Was King... | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
Now, we've been in contact | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
with your other aunts and uncles in the last day or so | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
who would also be entitled to a share in the estate, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
but so would your mother. Erm... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
Has she? Oh, I am sorry to hear that. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
Not the news Dave was hoping to hear. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
Oh... | 0:38:20 | 0:38:21 | |
The worst scenario. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
One of the deceased's sisters has unfortunately died | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
about three years ago. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
Finally the team has found their remaining stem - Jessie. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
What is a shame | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
is that one of the sisters that we've interviewed today | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
was desperate to try and speak with her sister | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
that she's lost contact with, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
and now it's not going to happen | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
because she died about three years ago. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
The team now have their work cut out | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
as they have to find all of her children. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Jessie had 12 offspring, four were adopted out, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
so the heir hunters don't need to find them. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
However, there are eight remaining children | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
who are now heirs to James's estate. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
One of those heirs is Sharon. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Now in her 50s, Sharon grew up in care | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
after being given up by her mother Jessie as a young child. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
Having never really known any of her wider family, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
the news that she's an heir | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
is a precious chance to connect with her roots. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
You feel like you're not relevant to people | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
and you don't know your family history. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
You know, you hear certain things but you're not sure if it's true, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
you question things but you don't really get a straight answer. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
The death of James, an uncle she never, and will never know, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
has at least put her in contact with other family members | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
so she can start filling in gaps of her life. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
So when I did get the phone call | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
and it was confirmed that it was actually a definite relative, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
I did feel, "Oh, it's relevant." | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
I felt, oh, there is someone out there | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
that I can call an aunt or I did have an uncle. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
And for the first time | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
she can be part of a family. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
So, yeah... | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
It's important for me to feel relevant. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
So as Dave Slee wraps up the case, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
he feels a sense of fulfilment. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
What is nice is that they've expressed a desire | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
to make contact with their aunt | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
who they haven't seen... | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
I don't think they've ever seen. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
So hopefully there'll be a nice reunion | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
and from our point of view that's quite gratifying. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
While the work of the heir hunters is complete, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
for Sharon it's just the beginning of her journey. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
She's off to meet her aunt Patricia. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
I'm feeling very nervous, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
but very excited at the same time. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
Yes, and I'm looking forward to meeting her | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
and I hope, erm...that she likes me. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
Patricia has invited Sharon to her home. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
DOORBELL RINGS Hello, Sharon. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
-Hello, Pat. -Hello, come in. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-Come in. Come in. -Thank you. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
The ladies have plenty to talk about. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
Well, when I opened the door... | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
You did look like Mum a bit, your eyes, yeah. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
Your eyes... The eyes feature look like Mum, yeah, they do. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
The conversation soon turns to Sharon's mum, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Patricia's sister Jessie. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
When I was told she moved back to London I went to the council. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
-Tower Hamlets. -Tower Hamlets, yeah. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
I went to them and asked and gave them me name and that, and they said, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
"No, we can't help you." But then when these people... | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
When my brother died, they found yous and I couldn't believe it. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
I tried and I couldn't get nowhere. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
I've been trying through a long, long time. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
But, you know what, thankfully we've met each other. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -That's been really good. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Patricia then shares some family photos with her niece. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
That's Nan there, she's drinking. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-Mum looks like her there. Definitely. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
I didn't realise I had so many. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
These are lovely, what you've given me, thank you. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
That's Eileen and me going out for the day. That's Nan. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
'It's been a really nice day.' | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
I was a bit worried what to say, what not to do, that, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
but I had a load of photographs, that sort of sealed it a bit. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
For me, trying to look for them, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
where I've failed, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
because of Jimmy dying, it's paid dividends. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
I'm glad she's here and she can see us | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
and she's got connections on Mum's side. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Brilliant. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:51 | |
It's been actually awesome, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
is the word I want to use. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
Erm... | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
It's been such a blessing meeting Aunt Pat, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
I feel so relaxed around her, I felt like I knew her for years. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
Yeah, it's awesome. Awesome. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
I can't believe that it happened. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 |