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Every year, thousands of people die with no known family | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
and without leaving a will. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
If no relatives are found, their money could go to the Government | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
and that's where the heir hunters step in. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
We trace the next of kin of people who have died intestate. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
They use specially honed research skills | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
to trace long-lost relatives... | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Nothing in this job gets the adrenaline going | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
like making enquiries. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:28 | |
..and delve into the past to uncover family secrets. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Joseph Napier-Du has been dismissed with service | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
by sentence of general court martial. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
It's a race against time to beat the competition... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
We treat everything with the same degree of urgency. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
You don't want to take a chance. You never really know for sure. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
..and bring news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Hopefully...he'll be proud that it went to his family members. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Coming up...a common family name puts the heir hunters in a spin... | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
It's thrown a bit of a spanner in the works. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
We thought we'd ruled out the possibility of near kin. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
..and an unclaimed estate uncovers a family history | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
spanning two world wars. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
None of them even had a chance to say goodbye, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
and that in itself must have been horrendously traumatic. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
Plus, could a fortune be heading your way? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Find out how you could inherit unclaimed estates | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
held by the Treasury. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
It's Tuesday morning in London at heir hunting firm Fraser & Fraser. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
What have you got there, Jay? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Just some priorities that have come in this morning. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
A new case has just come in, which the staff are busy getting their | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
teeth into, and senior researcher Roger Marsh is already optimistic. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
Got my search? Ah! Good man. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
I've got a new job that's Arthur Charles Williams | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
who died in 2013 in Brighton | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
and we believe there's a property in Brighton, so there will be value, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
but I don't know how much at the moment, but definitely worth doing. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
Arthur Charles Williams died on the 8th of July 2013 | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
in Brighton, aged 81. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
There seemed to be no surviving photographs of Arthur | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
and the details of his life remain vague. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
He's believed to have served in the RAF and then | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
worked as an aircraft maintenance engineer until he retired. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Judging by his home in Worthing-on-Sea, it would seem that, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
whatever Arthur did, he had a successful career, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
which is good news for Dom. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
We think the deceased owned his flat in Brighton. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
And we think it's probably a £200,000-plus case. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
But, although they believe he owned his own home, they don't yet have | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
any proof, so taking on the case is a bit of a gamble, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
which could prove costly. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
The neighbours of the deceased said he'd never been known to have | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
any visitors, any family or friends. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Many of the cases the heir hunters work are advertised | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
on the Treasury solicitor's bona vacantia list of | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
unclaimed estates, but, today, they're acting on a tip-off, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
so they need to tread carefully. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
When we do any of these cases, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:32 | |
there's always a risk that there's a will. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
In this particular case, we haven't been indicated by anyone that | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
there's definitely no will, so we are taking a bit of a risk on this one. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
And it doesn't look like there's an easy road ahead. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
If we're correct on the date of birth, the parents have got | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
to be Charles Williams and Florence Hill, both common names. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
That'll make it quite a hard job, but, you know, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
we'll see how we get on. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
We'll have to come back to the one before that as well, because it's... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
-No, I can't. -Yeah, cos they're... -They said they've got... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
Arthur was born on the 3rd of April 1932 in Brighton... | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
but the team can find no trace of any siblings. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
So, this means the search for heirs must widen to aunts, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
uncles and cousins on both sides of the family. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
So, it looks like the parents were married in Staining in 1931. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
He was 42 and Mum was 34, so...it's a start. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
It appears that both of Arthur's parents were | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
born in the late 1800s, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
so researcher Roger turns to census records in the hope that it | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
will give him a short cut to finding their siblings. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
I'm just trying to tie up censuses for the parents. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
I was hoping that there'd be something in the Brighton, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
Sussex area, but there's no reason to presume | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
they were born in that area, so... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
So, it's a bit hit-and-miss at the moment. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
But the team starts exploring the maternal side | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
and is already making headway on Arthur's mother's family. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
The dad's got a second name and both names are listed on there, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Edward David Hill, father of Florence, of the right age, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
and there's one in Brighton, so, unless I'm really unlucky... | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
this is going to be the right one. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
But Roger is puzzled by the census entry for Arthur's grandmother. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
That's interesting. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
According to the marriage, she's married as Henderson Scott. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
The team were expecting Arthur's grandfather, Edward Hill, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
to be married to Elizabeth Henderson, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
but, to their surprise, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
the 1911 census lists Edward as having married in Brighton to | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
Henderson Scott, a male-sounding name. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
He's not going to have married a Scott Henderson, is he? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
-No. -I don't think they're retrospecting gay marriage. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Well, this is the wrong marriage. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
If this is the wrong marriage, then all the team's work | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
so far will have been for nothing. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
In order to avoid any wrong turns, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
the team needs to ensure they have the right family and, for this, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
they urgently need to establish the full name of Arthur's grandmother. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
Scott. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-Hmm. -It should be Elizabeth Henderson. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
This is down as Henderson, isn't it? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Yeah. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
It's got to be the right one though, because it's bang on the right area. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-Yeah. -We're going to have to order it in anyway, just to make sure. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-Yeah, I'll bang that in as a priority. -Yeah. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
After a thorough search of birth records, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
the confusion is cleared up. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Arthur's grandmother had the unusual name | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
of Henderson Elizabeth Scott, but her full name was not listed | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
on the census entries that relate to her. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
'I just found the birth of the maternal grandmother.' | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
On the census, she was Elizabeth Henderson, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
but, when she was born, she was Henderson E. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
It just means that it's right and the marriage is right. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
It's one step further, isn't it? One step nearer. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
The heir hunters are back on the scent | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
and have discovered that Arthur's grandparents, Edward Hill | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
and Henderson Elizabeth Scott, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
had 11 children in addition to Arthur's mother, Florence. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
Four died as infants, which means the team is now | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
searching for descendants of seven of Florence's brothers and sisters. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
One of them, Dorothy, has a very unusual middle name. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
That's a middle name to die for! | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-Catura. -Yes. If correct... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
..it might make life easier, might it? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
A name like Dorothy Catura Hill could be invaluable | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
in tracking down beneficiaries and the team quickly makes progress. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
Dom identifies a cousin once removed | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
and finds a telephone number for her. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Oh, hello, I wonder if you can help me. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
I'm trying to figure out if a family that we've been looking into, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
which is a family by the surname of Hill, is any relation to your family. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:12 | |
Edward David Hill and an Elizabeth Henderson Scott. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
-That's a name that means something to you, then? -Bingo. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
It's the right family and the relative tells Dom some | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
vital information about Arthur's mother, Florence. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
Did Auntie Flo have any kids that you are aware of? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Ah, OK. Well, that's interesting that you would say two. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
We think she had a son, Arthur, and we think Arthur has recently died. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
Thank you very much. Take care. Bye-bye. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
But unfortunately, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
it's flagged up a possible major flaw in the research. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
She thought Auntie Flo, who is the mother of the deceased, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
had possibly two kids. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
It's thrown a bit of a spanner in the works. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
We thought we'd ruled out the possibility of near kin, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
but with a surname like Williams, you just never know. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Come on. Let's have a look at the trees over here. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
'The team now need to establish if Arthur did have brothers or sisters. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
'If he did, they or their children would be entitled over any cousins | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
'the team are tracing, rendering that research null and void.' | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
She had an Auntie Flo. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
-Auntie Flo, and this is where it goes slightly wobbly... -Hmm. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
..is thought to have two children. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
She thought she remembered playing with Auntie Flo's two children. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
The heir hunters now have to split their resources, with some of | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
the team double-checking if Arthur did have siblings. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Dom has to continue the search for wider family and updates the tree. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
Ernest Edwards was a French polisher. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
-She doesn't know if he married and had kids or not. -Right. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Beatrice is thought to have married with kids, no idea of their names. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
So, I think the two to concentrate on are Beatrice and Ernest | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
-because they're the two with potential for issue. -Yeah. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
It seems there are still plenty more maternal cousins to find, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and researcher Roger still has to get | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
stuck into work on the paternal side. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Nobody's started much on the Williams' side, have they? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Because of the names. Potentially, 12 stems, aren't there? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
So, it could be a very big tree. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
As Williams is such a widely used name, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
Roger could be facing a huge search. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Because it's a common name, they probably have to put that in probate, to see if he's right. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
But all the research they're doing into the wider family could be for | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
nothing if it turns out that Arthur did indeed have brothers or sisters. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
When heir hunters receive a new case to explore, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
they never know the family history that they are | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
about to uncover or when the next file is coming their way. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Daniel Curran, from probate researchers Finders, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
knows that his team have to be prepared to hit the ground running | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
to stay one step ahead of the competition. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
As the Treasury can advertise randomly at any time, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
we have to be ready to respond if we feel that a case is interesting. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
Raymond Wilfred Wild died at Queen's Hospital, Romford, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
close to his home on the 3rd of May 2012, aged 77. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
He was a journalist for local newspapers for many years | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
after developing a love for writing as a child. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
Bonnie and David McGough lived next door to Raymond | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
and remember him fondly. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
'Raymond was a very, very smart man. Very well dressed.' | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
He'd have a Panama hat in the summer and a bowler hat in the winter | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
and a red silk handkerchief in his top pocket. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Everybody knew him, everybody used to say, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
"Who's that smart man who walks along?" | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
David first met Ray when he was suddenly taken ill one night. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
We rang for an ambulance for him and, uh, he was taken into hospital | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
and when he came out, we received a present and a letter from him. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
"Dear Dave and Bonnie, I want to thank you both | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
"most sincerely for all the help you gave me. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
"It is indeed good to know that there are still a few | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
"kind and caring people left in this world. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
"I am only too well aware of how very rare such people are | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
"in this day and age. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
"Thank you again, sincerely, Raymond Wild." | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
We thought, "What a nice way to write." | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
It looks old-fashioned | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
and it's precise and it just reminded us | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
of someone from way back, really, a gentleman from back in history. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
Cos it is sad to see that he's not around any more. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
And... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
I suppose that's life, you know. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
When the estate of Raymond Wild was advertised by the Treasury's | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
solicitor, case manager Amy-Louise Moyes immediately | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
identified its potential. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
We thought that the surname Wild was particularly interesting. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
We also thought that he might have owned his own property. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
Raymond's case came from the Bona Vacantia Division, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
a government department run by the Treasury solicitor, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
which publishes unclaimed estates. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
And Amy knew that having an uncommon family name to work with, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
made things all the more urgent. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
When we are working on a case from the Treasury solicitor, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
it's usually a competitive case, which is why, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
if the surname appears to be unusual or particularly rare, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
it's always best because it means that we can work on it quickly | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
and hope to beat any other competition. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Aware that rival firms were also tracking Raymond's relatives, it was | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
a race against time for Amy and the team, who hit problems straightaway. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
One of the first ports of call is to try | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
and obtain a copy of the death certificate. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
The death certificate will confirm the full date of death for us | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
and it will also provide a full name. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
The death certificate will also show a full date of birth | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
and, hopefully, a place of birth. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
Unfortunately, with Raymond Wild, we were unable to obtain | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
the death certificate because his death was | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
still at inquest at the time. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
There are a variety of reasons why a death certificate may not be | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
issued soon after someone has died. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
And without Raymond's, Amy had to explore other avenues. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
One of the first bits of research I did was to check the electoral rolls. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
This suggested that Raymond had been living alone for a number of years. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
There appeared to be no spouse living with him and no children either. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
I then double-checked this information to | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
confirm by looking at the marriage indexes for England and Wales | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
and there were no obvious marriages for Raymond, which, again, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
led us to believe that he had died a bachelor without any children. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
This meant that I could go straight ahead and look at the birth indexes. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
I could find Raymond's birth records | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
which would then lead me onto finding out his parents' names | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and, in turn, to establish whether or not either parent was still alive. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
Having studied birth records, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
Amy discovered that Raymond's father, John Wild, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
had four brothers and sisters, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
and he had married Elizabeth Ellen Witting in 1921. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Amy's search had thrown up some fascinating facts | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
about John's profession. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Raymond's parents' marriage certificate was able to tell us | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
that his father, John, had been a sheet metal worker. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
John worked for Bates Cycles in East London and, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
perhaps surprisingly, his bicycle making skills | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
brought him to the attention of the War Office. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
The War Office is, today, what we would call the Ministry of Defence. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Army, Navy, Air Force all come under the War Office | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
in the First World War. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
On the outbreak of war, there was a massive number | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
of people who volunteered, and many of them were skilled workers, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
so it was very, very important | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
that the War Office were able to stop some people going off to | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
volunteer cos they were needed in the UK, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
so the War Office gave them a post. You probably don't know what | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
you're making, because the War Office | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
isn't going to tell you, it'll be assembled somewhere else. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
In those periods, you just don't talk about it. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
You do your job, you go home and you keep shtoom. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
John probably never imagined that one week he would be making | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
bicycle frames and the next he would be part of the war effort. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
The bicycle industry is a real analogy with | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
the ammunitions industry. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
The technology of bicycles, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
the technology of weapons at the time, almost identical. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
If you can make one, you can make the other. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
John Wild was a sheet metal worker. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Sheet metalwork for the Army involves | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
everything from building the interior ammunition boxes | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
through material required inside the land ships later known as tanks. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
So, I suspect he was involved in some element of | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
the production of weapons for the Army. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
John survived the war, but, unfortunately, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
like many families, he had loved ones fighting overseas. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
His brother, Matthew, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
was a stoker on HMS Inflexible at the beginning of the war. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
HMS Inflexible was a cruiser. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
When the Germans attempted to raid Port Stanley | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
and they caught the Germans napping and they went out | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and all the German vessels were sunk just before Christmas 1914. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
The operation was a huge success for the crew, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
but, sadly, their celebrations were short-lived. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
What would have been a jubilant time for all those on board turned | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
to tragedy as it seems Matthew fell overboard in what | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
are described as unknown circumstances on Christmas Day 1914. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
They have just been involved in a successful operation, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
they've sunk all the enemy vessels, the South Atlantic is now clear, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
it's Christmas Day, there's a double reason to celebrate. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
Unfortunately, with everybody busy, everybody partying, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
somebody goes over the side, he simply will be lost | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
and, even if he was seen to go over the side, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
a vessel of that size in the South Atlantic in winter... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
there's no point turning round and going back for him. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
The true story will never be known. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
This wasn't the only wartime tragedy to befall the family as | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
less than six months later, John's older brother, James, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
was on board the Royal Edward. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
James Wild was in the second battalion of the Hampshire Regiment. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
He was a new recruit, wartime volunteer | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
being sent on the Royal Edward to join the active service element of | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
the 29th Division, when they are torpedoed. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
The vessel sinks very rapidly, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
there was a very, very high loss of life on board. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
One of those people is James Wild. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
By the time he was 25 years old, Raymond's father, John, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
had tragically lost both of his brothers. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
But in 1921, he married Elizabeth | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
and Amy knew they had at least one son, Raymond. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
I searched the birth indexes using the surname Wild | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
and also a mother's maiden name of Witting. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
Because the family appeared to be from London, I also | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
limited my search to the London area. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
Based on her search, Amy quickly found a total of five siblings to | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Raymond, two sisters and three brothers, all born in London. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
I decided to look at the two sisters initially. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
I had a look at the marriage indexes in order to determine | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
current surnames that the sisters were using. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
From here, I managed to identify potential addresses for both | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
sisters and, in the meantime, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
the team had also identified an address for one of the brothers. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
The next steps were then to send some of our representatives | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
around in order to determine that the information we had was correct | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
and also to try and sign them up. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
As Amy continued her research, it soon became clear that | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
the Second World War had just as devastating an impact | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
on the family as the First. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
During that period, we're looking at probably 30,000 Londoners dying | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
and possibly another 50,000 who are injured as a result | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
of the bombing itself. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Heir hunters trace thousands of rightful beneficiaries | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
every year, but not all cases can be cracked. There are thousands of | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
estates on the Treasury's bona vacantia list that have | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
eluded the heir hunters and remain unsolved. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
When the Bona Vacantia Division passes money to the Treasury, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
it puts the case on its unclaimed list and it stays on there | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
for 12 years to be claimed. If someone makes a valid claim | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
within that period, then the money is paid back. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Today, we're focusing on two cases that are yet to be | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
solved by the heir hunters. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
First, it's the case of... | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
..also known as Anita Fowler, who died a spinster on... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Joyce was born in... | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
Her mother, Phyllis May Vernon, died on... | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Joyce's father... | 0:21:56 | 0:21:57 | |
..died on... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
..in Hillingdon. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
Despite this information, there's been no success in tracing | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
beneficiaries to her estate. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Do you know anything which could shed some light on her family? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Next, can you shed any light on the case of...? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Joseph was born in Israel in 1932 | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
and was a bachelor. He died on... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
..East Sussex. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Both Joyce and Joseph's estates remain unclaimed and, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
if no-one comes forward, their money will go to the Government. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
The money raised by the Bona Vacantia Division is passed | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
annually to the Treasury and it goes into the consolidated fund, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
therefore to benefit the country as a whole. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Do you have any clues that could help solve the cases of...? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
..also known as Anita Fowler or... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
Perhaps you could be the next of kin. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
In London, a team of heir hunters led by case manager Dom are | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
working the case of Arthur Williams who died in Brighton aged 81. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
As they think the case could be worth as much as £200,000, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
they are keen to try and stay ahead of the competition. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
'We're currently working on the case of Arthur Charles Williams | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
'who died in July 2013.' | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
He was not known to have any close family or friends, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
so we're keen to get cracking and work the family tree. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
The team are busy trying to trace Arthur's cousins, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
but their work has been thrown into doubt by a phone call | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
suggesting he may have had a sibling. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
-Auntie Flo...and this is where it goes slightly wobbly... -Hmm. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
..is thought to have two children. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
If Arthur did have a sibling, he or she would be the sole heir | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
to his estate, so the team must quickly establish if it's true. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
But at the same time, they must continue the search for cousins. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
I think the two to concentrate on are Beatrice and Ernest. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
In addition, there's work to be done on the paternal side as the surname | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
Williams is so common, meaning the family tree could be enormous. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
Because it's a common name, they probably have to put that in | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
probate and see if it's right. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:19 | |
To make matters worse, it's not yet known | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
if Arthur owned his own property, so working on this case is a gamble. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
It's not that easy when you have these really rubbish names. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
But the team get to it, and by studying birth, marriage | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
and census records, they establish that Arthur's father, Charles, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
was one of up to 12 children born to Robert and Eliza Williams. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
The research has also thrown up some interesting | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
information about the occupations of Charles and Robert, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
and the team have discovered that father and son | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
were both saddle-makers in Bury St Edmunds. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Back in the 1800s, the job as a saddler | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
and harness maker was absolutely vital | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
for everybody, you know, if they wanted to get from A to B. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
If they were drawing carriages or whether they were being ridden, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
it all involved saddle and harness making. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
The master saddler had to be able to turn his hand to everything. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Whether it be horse harness, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
anything that needed to be fabricated from leather. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
Due to the importance and necessity of their work, Robert and Charles | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
would have been well-known and well thought of in their local community. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
'It was a highly respected profession | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
'because everybody was reliant on the horse. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
'There was no mechanical transport. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
'You didn't really want to upset your local saddler. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
'They were highly respected.' | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
But being held in such high regard would not have come easily. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
The lifestyle of a country saddler would have been rather hard, I think. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
Long hours because you're constantly under pressure, especially in... | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
'Well, with Victorian times, we've got no electric light, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
'you've got to rely on daylight, so you're actually sat at the bench' | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
for a long, long time making the most of the amount of light that | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
you've actually got, naturally. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
And it would have been up to Robert to hand down the vital secrets | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
of his trade to his son, in order to maintain the family business. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
'The usual way, of course, is to pass it from one generation to the other, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
'and that means that that person would sit | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
'an apprenticeship with the master.' | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
It's a long-term apprenticeship. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
But it is known that Arthur, who was born in 1932, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
did not follow in his father and grandfather's footsteps. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
In 1932, of course, times were changing, technology was changing. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
The whole world was changing. It was the age of the motorcar. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
And, so, he went on to do other things. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Back in the office, several members of staff are now hard at work | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
trying to track down heirs on the huge paternal side of the family. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
For researcher Shannon, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
it's clear there's still a mammoth amount of work to be done. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
It's not that easy because I've got 885 marriages to work through. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
And there's still the matter of a possible sibling | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
of Arthur to consider. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Don't worry about this near kin thing. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
I think everything about this says that he | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
looks like he's going to be an only child. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
A thorough trawl of birth records has also drawn a blank, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
so case manager Dom decides to follow Roger's hunch, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
that Arthur was indeed an only child. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
We've been told sort of roughly that there might be | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
a sibling of the deceased. We think we've ruled that out. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
But for today, that's as much as the team can do. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
The next day, it's an early start for the heir hunters and | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
satisfied that Arthur was an only child, the team can now put | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
all their efforts into tracing his extended family. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Can you guys play with this a bit and then give me a shout | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
when it's all on the tree? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Case manager Dom starts the day in a confident mood. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
We're getting there. I have to say, the research has been brilliant. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
We got everything up-to-date | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
really, really quickly. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
So, filling all the gaps is going to take a long time. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
And the arrival of various certificates helps the team | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
take several steps forward. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
And what they know about the family profession proves vital. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
In the Sidney Williams marriage, the father has the right name | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
and he's a saddler, so that pretty much confirms it's the right family. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
So...saddler and harness maker. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
The discovery of Sidney Williams, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
a saddle-maker in Bury St Edmunds, adds another piece to the jigsaw. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
What it means is that we've got the right name | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
and he's got the right occupation, so it's going to link in with family. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
So, on the cert itself is an Arthur Williams and a Robert Williams | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
and we've got both of those in the family, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
so, it's a double check, really. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
INAUDIBLE | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Finally, the heir hunters can confirm that Arthur's father, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
Charles, had ten siblings, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
most of whom were believed to have lived in the Brighton area. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
One of Arthur's uncles, Robert, had seven children, one of whom, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
Hilda, went on to have | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
five children of her own. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
As first cousins once removed to Arthur, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
they're in line to inherit a share of his estate. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
This Hilda, however, suddenly jumps and goes up to Derbyshire. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
We've tracked down one of her kids, Reginald Alan Barber. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
Reginald Barber is one of the heirs the team have tracked down | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
and he's Arthur's cousin once removed. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
It's now two weeks since he was contacted by the team | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
and the news is still sinking in. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
I didn't know anything about my mother's side of the family | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
and I couldn't think of anybody up in Derby who it could be. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
'It's hard to believe when you get it and you do feel | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
'a little bit sorry for the people who's died and left it to you.' | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
But then, it was, "Who is this person that's died?" | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
And we still, hopefully, will learn a bit more about it and about | 0:30:25 | 0:30:31 | |
the extended family down in Bury St Edmunds, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
which we know absolutely nothing about. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
In London, it's taken Dom and the team more than three weeks to | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
finally get a handle on Arthur Williams' huge family tree. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
On the maternal side, the team has identified descendants | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
of three of Arthur's aunts and uncles, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
all of whom will be entitled to a share of his estate. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
And, from his father's side, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
there are heirs from five branches of the family. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
It's been a tough but rewarding job for case manager Dom. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
'We've identified over 30 beneficiaries so far' | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
and I'm sure we're going to identify more again. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
This is going to be really quite a large family tree. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
So far, we've signed about seven of the family. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Uh, we'd hope to have a lot more in the coming days, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
so it's going quite well, but we've really still got to keep pushing it. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
And the team have confirmed that Arthur did own his own property. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
Meaning his estate was worth around £214,000. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
Dom's instincts were right | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
and the gamble he took on the case has paid off. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
DOM LAUGHS | 0:31:40 | 0:31:41 | |
But for Reginald, more important than an unexpected windfall | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
is the chance to find out more about the relative he never knew he had. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
You just want to know more, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
something that you've never bothered about in your life. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
And then, all of a sudden... | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
somebody comes into your life who you don't know | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
and it's a funny experience. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
I suppose, in a way, it is a bit of an adventure, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
your family tree that you never think of. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
In North London, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:22 | |
case manager Amy-Louise Moyes was working the case of Raymond Wild. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
So far, she'd found out that Raymond had five brothers and sisters, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
but Amy knew she would have to act quickly to find them. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
With a highly competitive case, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
it's imperative that you are the firm that makes the first contact. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
Once we had names of the potential siblings, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
myself and the rest of the team were then able to work | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
simultaneously in order to try and find addresses for these siblings | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
and try and visit them before any other competition came our way. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
Raymond Wild, a bachelor from East London, died in May 2012 | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
and the heir hunters believe he may have owned his own home. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
His neighbours, Dave and Bonnie McGough, were some of | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
the few people that had contact with Raymond in his final years. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
He was an enigma...to us, yeah. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
'We was getting used to him stopping and chatting a bit more.' | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
We just tried to be friendly and be as normal as possible. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
'He was just a nice guy.' | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-It was sad. -It would be nice to see him walking up and down again. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
Having found contact details for some of Raymond's siblings, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
it was urgent that the heir hunters got to them as soon as possible. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
The challenge with this case was more to do with | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
the timescale that we were working to. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Because we were keen not to encounter any competition, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
the whole team worked together so that we were able to, then, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
go and visit the heirs simultaneously. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
And when they did, it threw up a surprising twist. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
One of the first heirs we were able to contact was one of | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
Raymond's sisters who was able to verify our research as correct and, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
also, she was able to tell us of an additional sibling, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
a younger brother named Bernard who had been born | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
outside of the London area. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
This was why he hadn't been included in our original search. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
This new information meant that Amy was now able to confirm that | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
Raymond was in fact one of seven children born to John and Elizabeth. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
Raymond's brother Bernard was born in Somerset rather than London, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
where the other siblings were born. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
Bernard was born during the Second World War and, during this time, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
it was common for whole families to flee London | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
in order to avoid the bombing. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
With German bombs pounding the capital, the Wilds were | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
one of many families who were not safe in their own home | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
during the Battle of Britain and the Blitz. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
This is the period of intensive bombing of London | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
and other British cities and it is indiscriminate bombing, rather than | 0:35:27 | 0:35:33 | |
attempts at tactical or strategic bombing on specific areas. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
We're looking at about 28,000 high explosive bombs being | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
dropped on London and something over | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
400 parachute mines being dropped in London at that time. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
Having already lost his brothers during World War I, John did | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
everything he could to make sure his family were safe. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
He moved his pregnant wife and his children to Bridgwater in Somerset. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
If you are suffering from intense aerial bombardment, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
you have an incentive to try and make your family safe. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
Key workers may well be staying in central London and elsewhere, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:27 | |
although their families might be relocated, if they can. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
While it was a common experience, those who could leave, did. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
Having confirmed Raymond's siblings, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
Amy was now close to tracing all of the heirs. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Two of Raymond's brothers had actually predeceased him, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
but had died leaving children of their own | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
and these children would now inherit a share of Raymond's estate. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
But it was only when the team had actually traced the heirs, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
that it became clear that Raymond's father John's attempts to keep | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
the family safe, weren't enough to prevent another tragedy. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
Raymond and his family were in Somerset, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
having been evacuated, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
but Raymond's father John was worried about their house being | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
damaged due to the bombing, and he wanted the insurance papers | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
for the home and so Cyril went along with his father. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
When they got there, unfortunately, tragedy struck | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
and a bomb actually hit and damaged the family home. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
As the bomb fell, Cyril was pushed out of the way. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
Sadly, his father John was killed during this bombing. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
For the second time, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
a world war had caused the family agonising heartbreak. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
This is probably where 26 Rochester Avenue actually stood. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
Now, the parachute mine detonated where that block of flats is. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
That would have taken out the entire row of houses | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
from there up to this point. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
John had heroically saved his son's life by pushing him | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
under a cupboard to safety. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Raymond's brother Cyril fractured his skull, but survived, but a joist | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
fell on John in the family home, breaking his neck and killing him. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
It's a matter of luck, in this case, enormously bad luck, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
that the parachute mine went off here and destroyed this area. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
It really is a tragedy. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
Through her research and conversations with the family, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Amy had managed to unravel the family tree | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
and contacted the families of all six of Raymond's siblings. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
One of the beneficiaries was the family of Bernard, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
the youngest, born in Somerset during World War II. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
Bernard passed away in July 2011, um, survived by three children, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:02 | |
a son called Martin and two others. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
Bernard also left a wife, Eileen. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
Their son, Martin, is one of the heirs | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
and knows from his father how the bombing affected him. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
My dad never got to know his own dad | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
because my dad was born nine days after his father was killed. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
Um, and I think that had a massive effect on the entire family, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
really, the loss of the father. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
Instead of introducing her husband to his newborn son, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Elizabeth had to travel to London for John's burial, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
but, when she arrived, Elizabeth had missed the funeral. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
None of them even had a chance to say goodbye, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
and that in itself must have been horrendously traumatic. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
News of Raymond's death has brought back | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
vivid childhood memories of his uncle for Martin. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
When I first met Raymond, I thought he was great. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
He was just like a smaller version of my dad. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Their sense of humour was almost identical. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
And this is amazing. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Bernard was in possession of some priceless family items that he | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
left with his wife, Eileen, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
including a birthday card sent from John to Elizabeth Wild, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
which reveals the pet names they used for each other, Jack and Nell. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
"My dear Nell, I wish you many happy returns of the day. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
"May the year be the end of the war. Best wishes. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
"Love from yours, Jack." | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
And, on the back... | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
"I am writing this under heavy gunfire, so..." | 0:40:40 | 0:40:46 | |
So, he was being holed in somewhere... | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
-So, he was... -..in the war. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
That is about three months... | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
-before he died. -Before he died, yeah. -Yeah. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Unfortunately, Raymond did not own his own house, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
meaning his estate was worth £6,000. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
AMY-LOUISE: With the work that we do here, it isn't always about the size | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
of an estate with cases such as this one where the value itself | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
is relatively small. It's the research that brings you | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
the satisfaction and is the reason why we do the work that we do. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
Amy's work has meant that Raymond's estate is | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
going to the rightful heirs. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
'In total, we identified eight heirs to Raymond's estate.' | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
It had come as quite a shock to several of the heirs that | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Raymond had lived so nearby, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
as they'd been unaware that he lived so close to them. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Raymond's ashes were scattered by hospital staff | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
on the Chase in Dagenham after they were told by | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
his neighbour Dave that Raymond used to go horse riding there as a boy. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
It was a surprise that he has got relatives | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
and it's sad that there wasn't much contact between them. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
I don't know...I don't know, it's hard to...it's hard to fathom. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
For Martin, it could mean the start of a personal journey | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
and a chance to build relationships with some of his long-lost family. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
'I'm certainly interested in' | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
finding out more information about where my position in this | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
whole Wild family is. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
'Had John not have died during the war, I think | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
'the whole family dynamic would have been very different. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
'I certainly feel that that has affected... | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
'the relationships between all of the siblings, and...' | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
now, the family has gone sort of scattered far and wide | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
with very little communication. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
'I know very, very little about my dad's side of the family and, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
'unfortunately, that side of the family are much older,' | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
so, the time to be able to find that | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
sort of thing out is...is running out. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 |