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Each year in the UK, thousands of people die without leaving | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
a will and with no known relatives. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
We've certainly never seen anybody come to visit, in all the time | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
we've known the house. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
If a member of the family doesn't come forward to claim | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
the estate all the money will go to the government. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
And that's where the heir hunters come in. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
They specialise in tracing beneficiaries and giving | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
them news of a legacy which can turn their world upside down. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
I've never met him or anything, so this is out of the blue. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
The heir hunting world is steeped in rivalry, as thousands | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
of pounds can be at stake. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
There is talk that it could be upwards of £50,000 | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
in savings accounts. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
And families and long-lost relatives can at last be reunited. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:55 | |
Hello. Come in! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
Above all, it's about giving people news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Coming up... the race is on to beat rivals to an estate | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
worth in excess of £750,000. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
I hope there's not going to be competition, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
but until you get there, you just don't know. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
And the success of a valuable case rests on the heir hunters | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
discovering crucial documents. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
I've just, in the bottom of this wardrobe, I found a false floor. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
I lifted it up and I have some boxes. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
held by the Treasury. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:41 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
It's early on a summer morning and heir hunter Stuart is driving | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
across the Wiltshire countryside, in pursuit of a new case. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
First case of the day, travelled up to Swindon. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
What a lovely day to be out and about in Wiltshire! | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Stuart works for London-based company Finders | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
and he's been dispatched by Senior Case Manager | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Amy-Louise Moyes, who has spent the past couple of days | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
researching the estate of Michael Naish. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
It's a private referral. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
We've been given his death certificate | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
and informed that the estate, quite a large valued estate, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:31 | |
it's worth between £750,000 up to, potentially, a million pounds. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
With such a high-value case at stake the pressure is now on Stuart, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
because he's on his way to visit potential heirs to this fortune. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
I hope there's not going to be competition, but you never know. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
People... I've arrived at doors before | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
where somebody has been in there | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
and you just bow out graciously, but I don't know. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
Until you get there, you don't know. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Michael Naish died, aged 79, on 24 October, 2011, at his home | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
in an Oxfordshire village. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Unfortunately, there are no surviving photographs of Michael. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
However, he's remembered fondly by people in the village, as he was | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
a familiar face in the area, running the local pub for over ten years. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
Very well known in the community, very well liked. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
You only ever saw him working seven days a week. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
The older people said he was lovely - a nice person, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
down-to-earth, always willing to help. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
Well, he would've been the centre of the community, because everybody | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
in the area would have come to see him at night, have a chat, a drink. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
They would sit here all night talking, spitting sawdust, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
as they used to call it years ago! | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Michael was a bachelor | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
and spent his life living in the family home in Oxfordshire. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
When he passed away in 2011, leaving behind a valuable property | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
but no will, solicitors were called in to handle his estate | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
and they turned to the heir hunters to help make sure | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
every relative was traced. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
For boss Daniel Curran, this is not uncommon. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
We get a lot of cases from solicitors, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
because, obviously, it is a specialist field. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
They might have situations they can resolve themselves, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
but for every one of those there is another one where there is | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
problems or difficulties in locating the correct beneficiaries. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
They also have to be sure they are finding and proving | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
they are finding the right people, as well. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
The solicitors on the Naish case were already in contact | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
with relatives on Michael's father's side of the family, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
but there was no trace of any family through his mother's side. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
The paternal family believe that | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
Michael's mother was an only child, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
but we need to verify the information, of course, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
before the estate is distributed, so I'm looking into the maternal family. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
When the case was handed to Amy two days ago, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
she had a useful head start. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
We've been provided with Michael's parents' names. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
They were Kate Emma Hobbs and Walter James Naish. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
We were also informed that Michael had an elder brother, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
who actually predeceased him, in 2004. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
This meant that Amy | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
and her team had plenty of information to work with. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
They knew that Michael had died without marrying or having children | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
and it seemed the same was true of his elder brother, Gerald. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
For all intents and purposes, they were living together, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
the brothers, and the brother died a bachelor, without issue. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
With no partners, children or siblings to inherit, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
all heirs on this estate would come from the wider family and that | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
meant looking to Michael's parents, Walter Naish and Kate Hobbs. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
The couple married in 1918 and moved to Oxfordshire, where Walter | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
was stationed with the 13th Rifle Brigade, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
which was part of the highly decorated regiment which suffered | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
horrific losses during the First World War. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Fortunately though, Walter survived. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
The solicitors had already established that Michael | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
was one of two sons born to Walter James Naish and Kate Emma Hobbs. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
They had made contact with two paternal cousins, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
each of whom would be entitled to a share of Michael's huge estate. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
OK. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
But the estate could not be paid out until all the heirs had been found. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
The team now focused on Michael's mother, Kate, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
to see if she was an only child, as some believed. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
With Kate, because she was born in 1896, the... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
The best thing to do | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
and the fastest way to get results was to look at census records, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
so the first thing to do would be to look at the 1901 Census. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
This would give us an initial idea of whether or not she was an only child. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Censuses are compiled every ten years | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
and give a snapshot of Britain's population, by showing | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
who is living at every property on one particular day. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Censuses are usually only made public | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
100 years after being compiled, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
but they contain details of people's age, marital status | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
and relatives, and for Amy and her team, this would prove invaluable. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
Having a look at the 1901 Census, we found Kate | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
and we can see that she is living with her mother Clara, a laundress. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
She's also living with seven siblings, so in 1901 she would | 0:07:38 | 0:07:44 | |
appear to be one of eight children of Clara and Edgar, her father. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
And certainly not an only child, as previously thought. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
This was crucial for the team, as it meant there was now a good chance | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
there would be heirs on the maternal side of the family. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
For every heir they found, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
the team would earn a pre-agreed percentage of the estate, so they | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
quickly began tracing descendants of Kate's brothers and sisters. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
I would usually start with one of the male siblings, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:17 | |
because it is a lot easier to find a death record, but given that | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
one of Kate's sisters has a particularly unusual name, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
Virtue Annie Hobbs is her name, I am going to look at Virtue first, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
in the hopes of finding somebody fairly quickly. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
Virtue was Kate's eldest sister and Amy was soon able to establish | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
that she was one of five daughters born to Clara and Edgar Hobbs. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Interestingly, records reveal that three of these sisters | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
worked in domestic service | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
and Michael's mother Kate was a kitchen maid. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
The kitchen maid's role was probably the most tiring | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
role of any of the staff. She'd often be the first person to get up. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
The kitchen would properly have risen between 4.30 and 5.00 | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
and she would have then gone around the house before the aristocracy | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
were up. This was the key, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
so she wasn't seen and would have started to prepare the fires, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
she would stoke up the stoves, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
and she would draw the curtains as well first thing in the morning. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
After that it would be any job that the cook wanted her to do. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
A good kitchen maid was very hard to find, because a lot of them | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
just could not stomach it. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
It was whilst in service that Kate met Walter, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
her future husband and Michael's father. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
He was a footman from a neighbouring house. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
The role of the footman was to support the butler | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
and it was a trainee butler, basically. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Often you would have a first footman and a second footman | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
and it was much more impressive in these houses if your first | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
and second footman matched, so if they looked very similar, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
if they were of the same height, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
footmen generally tended to come in pairs and they would be there | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
helping setting the table, serving at table, bringing the food and the | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
drink from the kitchen upstairs and then serving tea and coffee and any | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
other food and drink throughout the day and answering the door, as well. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
The role of the footman was very much seen, as opposed | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
to the kitchen maid, which was not seen, at all. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
One of the roles of the footman was to polish the silver. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
It's quite a tiring job | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
because they would have lot of silver to polish in these houses. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
If an employer found a piece of cutlery or a partridge | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
that was not in particularly good condition, then words would be had | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
with the butler and the butler would make sure that did not happen again. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
Some employers didn't know what they were looking for but most of | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
them can tell a shiny piece of silver from a tarnished piece of silver. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
In 1914, Walter was sent off to war, but he | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
and Kate married on his return and when the couple's first child | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
was born, her time in service would have ended. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
There was no such thing as a working mother-type thing, as we have today. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
Hopefully, the husband Walter would have moved up the ranks | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
and he would have been earning enough to support both of them, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
because obviously Kate would not have been taking a wage, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
but her role would have been to look after the children. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Having established that one of Kate's sisters had the unusual | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
name of Virtue, Amy could now begin tracing her descendants, to see | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
if it led her to living heirs. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Virtue Annie married a gentleman named Hedley Rawlings. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
The surname Rawlings is a fairly common surname, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
but given that it is combined with first names Virtue and Hedley, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
I am pretty confident that the records I've found are correct. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
Next, Amy established that Virtue and Hedley went on to have | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
five children who would have been Michael's cousins. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
But all five had died, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
meaning Amy would have to go down another generation. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Marjorie Ethel Rawlings, born in 1910. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
Now, this again is one of the best name combinations of the five | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
children, so we have looked through the marriage records again | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
and we can see that Marjorie went on to marry a William Strange. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
The birth indexes indicate that Marjorie | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
and her husband William had nine children. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
The team have been able to establish that all nine of these | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
children are alive and potential heirs to the £750,000 estate. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
It's now over to travelling researcher Stuart to visit | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
these heirs and, hopefully, to sign them up. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
-Hi, Amy! -'Hello.' -Hi. I've got all the papers. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
Everything's under control. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
But will Stuart's task be as straightforward as he hopes? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
We are very lost, actually. Turn left. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
-SAT-NAV: -Turn right. -Turn right here, do you think? | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
I don't think that's saying right here. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
Across the UK, there are thousands of homes lying empty, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
and, in many cases, their owners have passed away with no known | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
relatives to inherit property. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
With ownerless houses often becoming derelict and overgrown, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
concerned neighbours sometimes turn to the Heir Hunters for help. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
We find a number of people contact us because of these properties | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
lying empty and hope we can find the family. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
This is how senior case manager David Pacifico | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
heard about an unclaimed estate in Manchester worth around £100,000. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
Peter Hughes was 81 when he died on 12th August, 2011. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
He had lived alone on a quiet street in Salford, Manchester. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
Debbie Freer was his neighbour for over six years. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
I'd describe Peter as a really friendly old gentleman, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
but he kept himself to himself. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
He'd do his garden, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:09 | |
and when he was in his garden, he'd say hello to people passing. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
His death came as a shock to all his friends and neighbours. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
People do miss him on the street because people have spoken about him this summer. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
I've talked to the next-door neighbour and the lady across | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
the road and the lady next door about Peter only in the last couple of months, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
because people are concerned what's happening to Peter's house. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Peter wouldn't just let it go to rack and ruin. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Peter's house sat neglected for two years, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
before one of his neighbours contacted the Heir Hunters. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Highly-experienced case manager David Pacifico immediately began | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
work to track down beneficiaries. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Because of the property involved, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
they believe that the estate has an estimated value of £100,000. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
But until their research could confirm this, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
the team were taking a gamble. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
We couldn't trace records of his actually owning the property. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
If he was renting, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
we were then possibly looking at much lower value case. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
And the team didn't have a lot to go on. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
The information we had - obviously the address, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
the name of the person, but that was about it. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
So they checked to see if he had been married. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
We believe he died a widower, and also checked to see | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
if there were any children born of that marriage | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
before we traced the further family. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
The team quickly discover that Peter had no children | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
and that he was an only child. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
With no wife, children or siblings, the team would have to look | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
to the wider family to have any chance of finding heirs. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Next step is to identify the parents, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
when they were married, when they died, and also when they were born, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
to find siblings of both the father and of course the mother. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
They would, then, be aunts and uncles of the deceased. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Peter's parents were Peter Hughes and Elizabeth Williamson. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
They married in 1922 in Salford. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
David began by looking into the paternal side. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
Hughes is quite a common name, more common in Wales. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
It's more of a Welsh name. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
So on that basis, we hoped that the father was English, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
so it would be better to research | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
and we then identified a number of siblings of the father. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
Peter's father had six brothers and sisters, and the team began | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
the tricky task of tracing all the Hughes siblings, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
to see if any of them had gone on | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
to have children, who would be Peter's cousins. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
Can we have a quick look for the parents' deaths, as well? | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
David now turned his attention | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
to Peter's mother Elizabeth's side of the family. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Peter's mother Elizabeth, or Lizzie, was born to William | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
and Margaret Ann Williamson in 1898. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
She was one of five children. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
The eldest of the mother's siblings was Henry Williamson, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
who would have been born in 1895. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
So he would have been 19 at the outbreak of the First World War | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
and could have fought in the First World War. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
Records show that Peter's uncle, Henry Williamson, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
did fight in the First World War. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
He was on the front line with the King's Royal Rifle Corps. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
He goes with his battalion to France in July, 1915, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
and he remains there until he's wounded in September, 1917. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
So, he has almost a year and a half | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
when he's in and out of the front line. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
He takes part in two major battles, Loos, in the autumn of 1915, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
and he's right at the centre of the Battle of the Somme. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
The Battle of the Somme is characterised by high casualties, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
60,000 killed and wounded on the first day alone. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
These levels continue right through to November. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
So, Henry Williamson, a young man in his early 20s, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
is trying to come to terms with seeing his comrades killed, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
wounded, trying to stay alive, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
defending himself against German counterattacks. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
Frontline fighting clearly took its toll on the young man, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
as he was diagnosed with shell shock. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Typically, shell shock manifests itself in fatigue, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
exhaustion, joint pains, sometimes chest pain, as well, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
difficulty breathing, nervousness, difficulty sleeping. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
So, the combination means that the front line soldier can't do his job. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
Henry was sent to hospital for treatment. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Shell shock is treated in a variety of ways. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Psychologically-minded doctors who've got experience | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
of the front line will treat men with respect, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
with appropriate treatment | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
and understand what they're going through. Some of the high-ranking | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
officers, who haven't necessarily been in the front line, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
will adopt a much more rigorous, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
tough line, and say that to what extent is | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
the shell shock actually cowardice or people shirking duty? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
The treatments they're looking towards are much more punishment | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
and military discipline, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
so there's a split in the army, as the appropriate way | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
to deal with these nerve-damaged troops. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Treatment is simplified because the army wants to return | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
as many men to duty as quickly as possible. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
So it's rest, sleep, encouragement, good food, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
and then graduated physical exercise, to encourage the man | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
back to duty, to get him functioning in a physical | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
and mental sense as a frontline soldier. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Henry didn't recover enough to return to the battlefield | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
and was discharged from the army before the end of the war. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
In the office, the team discovered that, after the war, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Peter's uncle Henry returned to Manchester, where he married | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
and had six children, all of whom were potential heirs to the estate. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
From the birth records, we identified any children of the name | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
Williamson with the mother's maiden name, in this case Roberts. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
However, it is possibly quite a common combination. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
We know they got married in Salford | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and the chances are any children would be born in Salford, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
so we wouldn't look at any children with that combination of surname | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
that might have been born, say, in London, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
because there's obviously a number of marriages of Williamson | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
that married Roberts. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
So the family we found were all, I believe, born in Salford. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
The couple had six children in total - | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
one boy, Henry, and five girls. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
David quickly found one of the daughters, Iris, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
who would've been Peter's cousin. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
She was still alive and still living in Salford. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
I remember Peter, but only because he was older. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
I don't remember him as a child. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
I've not really seen that much of him. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
The only recollection that I have of actually seeing him | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
was after my father died | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
and he brought a Christmas card round here for my mother. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
I remember, as he walked off the path, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
thinking how much like my dad he was. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
This is my cousin, Peter Hughes, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
and his wife, June. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
As far as I know, they always lived with Auntie Lizzie and Uncle Peter. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
With their first heirs signed up, the team were making good progress. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
But they still had many more beneficiaries to trace, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
and at this stage they still had no idea of the true value | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
of the estate. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
In fact, the team would have to wait several months to find out | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
if the case really was worth the £100,000 they'd estimated. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
We have to try and find some paperwork that will justify | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
that this is actually his home. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
While the Treasury Solicitor publishes a list of new cases every day, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
the Heir Hunters can't always find the vital clues | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
that lead them to entitled relatives. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
These cases remain on the government's unclaimed list | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
for up to 30 years. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
When the new cases are brought to me, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
we make any enquiries that we can make to find kin. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Then, if we can't find kin, they're then put onto the website | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
so that people can come forward and claim estates they're entitled to. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
Today, we have details of two unclaimed estates | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
where heirs are yet to be found. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Do you have information that could help solve either of these cases? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
The first is Ann Patricia Barnes, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
who died on ninth January in 2009 in Hampstead, London. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
However, she hadn't lived all her life in the capital. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
She was originally from Coventry, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
born there on 25th February, 1942. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
She had been married, but at the time of her death she was a widow. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
Her maiden name was Ladbrook, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
and she also used the name Annie Barnes. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Despite all this information, there's been no success | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
in tracing beneficiaries to her estate. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
The second case s Mary Ann Margaret Wraight. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
She died a widow on 17th September, 1997, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
in Kenton, Middlesex. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
She was of Irish descent | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
as she was born in Ireland on 27th August, 1916. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
Her maiden name was Simpson | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
and she also used the name Molly Simpson-Wraight. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Both Ann and Mary's estates remain unclaimed. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
However, there is hope beneficiaries could still be found. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
If someone is aware of an unclaimed estate that they don't believe | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
somebody else's already dealing with, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
they can give us a ring | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
and we'll talk them through how to refer the case to us. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Do either of these people ring a bell to you? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Could you be the relative the Heir Hunters are looking for? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
If so, you could be entitled to thousands of pounds. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
Retired pub landlord Michael Naish died a bachelor in 2011. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
He hadn't made a will, but, having inherited the family home | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
in Oxfordshire, his estate was worth in excess of £750,000. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
Having been told there were probably no maternal heirs, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Amy Louise Moyes and her team have actually traced | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
multiple family members | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
who should be entitled to a share of the estate. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I was expecting the deceased's mother to be an only child, as suggested. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
So when it turned out that she was actually one of nine, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
it was surprising to say the least. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Two days after the team began working on the case in the office, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
it's now up to researcher Stuart to visit | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
these potential heirs and hopefully sign them up with the company. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
It's more than likely they've never heard of the person. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
It's quite interesting with families. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
But they're obviously quite hopeful | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
there's some money in the pipeline. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Stuart is one of several researchers that the company | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
employ to travel around the country visiting heirs. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
He may be asked to collect certificates from register offices | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
and speak to neighbours to try to paint | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
the picture of somebody who has passed away, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
and to find any family collections they may know about. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
But whatever the challenge, it's clearly a job he loves. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
I'm a people's person, really. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
I find people extremely interesting, and it is surprising, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
some of the people you come across. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
They're shocked and it's very sad, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
and then suddenly it might not be sad if they didn't like the person... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
It's very interesting. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Stuart's first port of call today is to Marion. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
Her mother, Marjorie, was Michael's cousin. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Hello, I'm Stuart. Lovely to see you. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
So she should be due a share of his estate. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
Basically, we're trying to get the estate sorted out. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
Stuart must run through some family details with Marion | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
to make sure their research is correct. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
And as Marion is a keen amateur genealogist, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
his job is made a lot easier. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
-This is going back to my dad's side, William. -Mm, yeah.. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
Then his father, George. It goes on to the Rawlings. Henry. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
A few things down here. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
Having established that Marion is definitely an entitled heir, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:52 | |
Stuart gets down to business and explains that, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
in return for an agreed percentage of her inheritance, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
the company will act on her behalf when she makes her claim. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Marion is happy with the agreement, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
and the company have their first heir. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
If you could put your birth certificate into the envelope | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
-and send it off, that would be great. OK, lovely to meet you. -Thank you. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
-Safe journey. -Bye, Ken, bye. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Thank you, Stuart. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
His next appointment is with Marion's brother, Tony. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
But getting to him may be easier said than done. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
We are very lost, actually. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
-SAT NAV: -Turn left, then turn right. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Look at the midges. Turn left. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
-'Turn right.' -Turn right here, do we? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
I don't think that's saying right here. I think... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
I just feel I'd better go up a bit. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
I might be wrong. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
'Arriving at destination on left.' | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
It's garages or something, a white garage. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
But with a £750,000 estate at stake, there's no time to lose. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
Oh, there he is! | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Hello there. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Stuart runs through the same process as with Marion. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
I'm sorry to say Michael James Naish, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
-a nephew of your grandmother, so it's your first cousin... -No. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
-You don't know. -No. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
YAPPING | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Now, this is for you. I need you to sign there. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
And Tony is also happy to sign. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
The news of this inheritance has come as a huge surprise. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Thank you very much. Goodbye. Goodbye. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
But Tony has already earmarked a good use for any money | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
that comes his way. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
I think he was my first cousin, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
but I never met him or anything. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
So this is out of the blue. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
I'm going to be a great-grandfather soon. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Me granddaughter, well, I always try and help her, as well. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:10 | |
Yeah, because they're struggling paying their way and all that. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
It's been a very successful day for Stuart, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
and with two heirs signed up, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
the company are well on their way to completing this case. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
A few days later in the office, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
and case manager Amy has now finished her research | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
into the estate of Michael Naish. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
She and her team have managed to trace every maternal heir, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
and their search has gone far and wide. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
With a total of eight branches to look at, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
two or three of these branches ended up overseas, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
several in New Zealand and several also in Australia. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
We managed to identify and locate all of those overseas beneficiaries | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
and our representatives went on to sign them up for us. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
All in all, we have identified 44 maternal beneficiaries. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
Another maternal heir traced by the team was John. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
His mum Dorothy was a sister of Michael's mum Kate. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
John recalls meeting Michael on various family gatherings. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
I first met Michael in '53, and I would have been about 26. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:27 | |
There was just my auntie Kit, uncle Walter and the two boys, Gerald, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:34 | |
who was the oldest, and Michael, the youngest. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
They seemed a very friendly lot and I was delighted to meet them. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
He had fond memories of playing with the brothers. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
I would say that Michael... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
..was the quieter of the two brothers, and... | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
..struck me as being the studious kind. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
I can remember Gerald digging up worms, so that I could go fishing. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
It wasn't quite so much Michael. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
He might supervise, but it was Gerald who managed to find a few. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:21 | |
And I didn't really do justice to them, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
because I fished all day and had to, in the end, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
wriggle the worm off the hook, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
which I wasn't very happy about, at that time. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
Sadly, the cousins lost touch and never saw each other again. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
After we had lost touch, we didn't really exchange any letters | 0:31:45 | 0:31:51 | |
other than Christmas cards, which, in hindsight... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
..is rather regretful. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
John now wishes things could have been different. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
If we were fortunate enough to have been living closer together, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:10 | |
I'm sure that we would have got on extremely well | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
and would probably have met up more often. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
I only regret that, in his passing, that we hadn't known each other | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
a bit closer in these recent years, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
as I'm sure that we could have made a difference to each of our lives. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:35 | |
That will always be a regret, as far as I'm concerned. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
The heir hunters were investigating the case of Peter Hughes | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
after they'd received a call from a member of the public, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
who had become concerned about a house that had been abandoned. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
Friend and neighbour Debbie remembers Peter well. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
For an elderly gentleman, he was rather tall, upright, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
silver haired, well-kept for his age. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
With the estate estimated at £100,000, the team had thrown | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
all their resources into cracking this case ahead of any competition. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
So far, they'd found 16 beneficiaries on the paternal side. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
One of Peter's heirs, Iris, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
was able to offer a fascinating insight into her cousin. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
As we were growing up, I heard he was a conscientious objector. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
A conscientious objector normally means someone who has refused to be | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
conscripted into the military and some people conscientiously object | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
to other things besides that, but in a normal context, it is someone who | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
refuses to kill somebody else and be trained to kill somebody else. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
The term "conscientious objector", or CO, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
was initially used during the First World War, when men were | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
allowed to appeal against conscription into military service, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
on the grounds of occupation, hardship, faith or moral beliefs. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
This was not an easy path to choose, and many in society judged COs or | 0:34:06 | 0:34:12 | |
conchies, as they were also known, harshly, branding them as cowards. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
They were forced to face a tribunal, who would decide their fate. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
One possibility was to be given a complete exemption. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
In other words, the tribunal you were up before would say you did | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
not have to do anything, you were not given any orders at all, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
you did not have to join the military or do any directed work, at all. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
More commonly, people were given another alternative. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
They were told, you can avoid being in the forces, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
but you do have to do labour, work which is thought to be of national | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
importance, or towards the war effort, or is in some way valuable. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
Obviously, that could vary, according to the tribunal. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Obviously, there was a fourth option, that people were | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
turned down altogether and people didn't get any option. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
People told, tough - in you go. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
But the consequences could be far more severe than simply being | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
forced to go into battle. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
If they were genuine COs, which most of them who applied were, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
they would then end up being punished for it and they might be locked up. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
In the First World War, some of them were sentenced to death. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
And even when the war was over, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
being a conscientious objector was not forgotten. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
I imagine people who had been COs were probably treated | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
after the war in a similar way as during the war. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
Some people would have hated them for it | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
and other people would have been very sympathetic. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Clearly, if you are in a situation post-war where the economic | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
situation is such that there aren't enough jobs to go around, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
which is something that happens | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
when there are lots of people demobbed and the economic situation | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
changes, then you may be at the bottom of the queue to get a job | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
sometimes, and, clearly, people are going to be prejudiced against you. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
During the Second World War, Peter told his family | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
he planned to be a CO. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Fortunately, the war ended when he was 15, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
so still too young to be conscripted. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
He went on to carve out a successful career as a joiner, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
and carried on this trade until he died. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Peter's cousin, Iris, had one sibling still alive, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
who was also a beneficiary of Peter's estate. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
All the other brothers and sisters had died, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
so their estates automatically passed down to their children. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
One of them is Lynne, the daughter of Peter's cousin Henry, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
and granddaughter to Henry Williamson Senior, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
who had suffered from shellshock after fighting on the front line | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
during the First World War. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
I'd never heard of Peter Hughes. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
It's fascinating to see where he fit into the rest of the family. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
Lynne was unaware of her father's wider family, as he never | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
really mentioned it when he was alive, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
focusing more on his everyday family life. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
My dad kept to himself. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
Like his father, he kept himself a lot to himself, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
but he was one of those people that had to be earning to put | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
food on the table, so he did a vast number of jobs. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
In the early days, he worked on the railways. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
That's before I was born, I believe. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
After that, he did markets, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
and he became what they used to call a commercial traveller. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
So he would go to Yorkshire and places like that, selling... | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
..from memory, I think it was some sort of clothing. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
The call from the heir hunters has introduced Lynne to a side of her | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
family she never knew about. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
I spoke to one of my aunties and went down a totally different | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
line, so it's very nice today to find out who Peter Hughes was. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
I'm really stuck between feeling for him, because he is no longer | 0:37:46 | 0:37:53 | |
here, and wanting to know what he was like and who he was. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
It is a double-edged sword, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
because, one, it's very nice to receive some money, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
but on the other hand, you know that somebody has died | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
to do that, and I wish I had known him. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
For David and the team in the office, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
the family research was almost complete. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
-Do you need anyone to give you a hand on that? -I think we said yes. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
We've chased round about 25 heirs. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
David, was it? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
'But I would imagine there could be another 10 or 15,' | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
possibly even more than that. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
In addition to the six heirs they found on the maternal side, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
they'd also cracked the trickier Hughes side of the family, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
and found a further 17 heir - and still counting. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
But having put hours of valuable manpower into solving this case, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
one important question remained. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
Did Peter own his house | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
and was the case worth the original estimate of £100,000? | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
It's now 11 months since the team first began | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
their investigations into this case, and Andrew Fraser, one | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
of the partners of the firm, is on his way to Peter's home, to see if | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
there are any documents that could confirm who owned the property. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
We have to try to find some paperwork that will justify that this is | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
actually his home, and he's not renting a property. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
A house visit like this is an important part | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
of administering an estate, a process which can go on for | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
months and years after the initial work to trace the heirs is complete. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
Andrew will also have to make a thorough search for any other | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
important documents, apart from confirmation of the house ownership. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
Unfortunately, there is also the very high risk that we could find | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
information which shows there is a will, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
or that he actually doesn't have any assets that will make up his estate. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
In which case, the 20 or 30 heirs | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
and beneficiaries we've hoped would inherit something | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
will actually end up with nothing, and our work will be unpaid for. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
So a lot is resting on Andrew's visit. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
It's quite run-down, the house, in general terms. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
It's clearly a gentleman who's been living on his own here for some time. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
So, now our job is to go through every cupboard | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
and try to find some deeds to the house, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
or even some indication that he would have owned it, such as insurance. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
From years of experience, Andrew knows just what he's looking for. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
Deeds tend to be in a brown envelope of about A4 size, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
so that's what we're looking for. If I find those, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
I suspect any other important documents will also be with them. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
But despite his diligence, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
the missing documents are stubbornly refusing to reveal themselves. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
Until... | 0:41:02 | 0:41:03 | |
In the bottom of this wardrobe, I've found a false floor. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
I lifted it up and I found some boxes. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
Could this secret stash of information be just what | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Andrew is looking for? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
This is the title documentation, dated 26 September, 1933. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
These are the documents that prove the house is owned by Mr Hughes. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
This is good news. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I found here some very important documents, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
and I would expect all important documents to therefore be together. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
And I haven't found any will. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
Andrew also picks up a few pieces of family memorabilia. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
All the family normally ask for photos. That's what they want. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
By having some photos, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
we can at least share them between the family and they get | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
to have some insight about where their inheritance is coming from. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
So, for Andrew, it's been a successful visit to Peter's house. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
We've been lucky enough that the house hasn't had too much | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
content in it, so we've been able to go through it fairly quickly | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
and also have good confidence to know we've been through everything. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
We found a couple of bank accounts, some shares. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Most importantly, we found the deeds to the house, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
to show that this was the family home and it does belong to Mr Hughes | 0:42:32 | 0:42:38 | |
himself or his late mother or late father. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
And it's a huge relief to all the team who put hours of research | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
into solving this case that potentially could | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
have been for little or no return. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
The work of finding the 30-plus beneficiaries, some in the West | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
Country, some in Wales, some in the North East, is actually all | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
going to come together, and they will inherit something | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
and this house is worth a fair amount of money, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
although it will be divided by an awful lot. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 |